1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: I am all in. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. iHeartRadio 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: one eleven productions. iHeartMedia, iHeart podcast, iHeart dish soap. iHeart 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. You know, iheart's getting into all 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: kinds of durs. Anyway, we are gonna break down episode fifteen, 7 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Season six eight, Vineyard Vallance. I have a controversial take, 8 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: and I am joined by my controversial yet intrepid crew 9 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: led by terror Suit Susanne French, Amy Sugarman. Welcome, ladies. 10 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: What is your controversial take? 11 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: Oh you want me to tell you now? 12 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: I too well, So we have a lot to talk about. 13 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you this. Half the episode I loved 14 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: and half the episode I thought was stupid. 15 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: Okay, I feel like it's fair. 16 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, like the We'll get into it, but first, I 17 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: have not gotten your tickets. I am all in live. 18 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: Oh man, it is. We are getting close to sold out. 19 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: There are some tickets left. There's tickets for the stream. 20 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: If you cannot be in La, obviously get your tickets 21 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: at the stream. If you can be in LA. I 22 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 3: really I'm actually excited about this. Scott's going to be there, 23 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: We have all those amazing cast members that are going 24 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: to be there, and it's very intimate venue, so like 25 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: we're doing a full Q and A and you're really 26 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: going to have the opportunity to ask all those people questions. 27 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: But it will be snowing. We have Doci's Market, We 28 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: have all the things, and we just added like, you know, look, 29 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: I understand tickets are expensive, right, and I want people 30 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: to feel like they're getting a lot of value for 31 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: that money. We have in the back lot, so it's 32 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: on the studio lot, like it's super cool. Where the 33 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: theater is a Luke's Diner food truck. 34 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I was hoping that was going to come 35 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: through a Luke's Diner food truck. And who's panning that truck? 36 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: You will see when you're there, it's going to be 37 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: And we have a Luke's Diner coffee cart in the venue. 38 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: So like for people listening, like you get a lot 39 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: of bang for your buck, right, Like, I get it, 40 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: it's expensive, but you're getting the show, you're getting dinner, 41 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: you're getting you know. We obviously have Dosi's Market that 42 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: has concessions for sale, but like everybody gets, you know, 43 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: some real cool perks with their ticket. 44 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: A tad pricey, but there's a reason for that. We're 45 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: not trying to gouge people's amy Amy can provide. 46 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: We wanted to do it at this venue, right, So 47 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: it's a very it's a very cool place to see 48 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: a show, and it's very intimate, so we can only 49 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: have a certain number of people in there, which obviously 50 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: makes ticket prices higher. So we've done you know, like 51 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: like I said, you get you know, your coffee beverages, 52 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 3: you get dinner after the show from the Luke's Diner 53 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: food truck. Like we're doing everything we can. We really 54 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: want to make it people have an amazing experience and write, 55 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: but a real Gilmore evening. 56 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: We have to offset the cost of what it's costing 57 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: us to rent the venue and hire the workers and 58 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. That we're Yeah, we're not as 59 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: strike done. 60 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: It's not we're not We're not trying to make money. 61 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: We're trying to break even here. We're not to bring 62 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: you some great entertainment and some great guests. 63 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 4: That's it's the old it's the old Jay Leno studio. 64 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, old Johnny Carson's Jay Leno. It's so it's it's 65 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: got a lot of history behind it. We're really exciting. 66 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: What I'll say is if you can travel, it's worth it. 67 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm traveling down from San Francisco, Like it's this is 68 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 3: going to be really, really cool. So Scott, you better 69 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 3: be awesome too, because you've got to carry the whole show. 70 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: So I know that's very hard for me, but I'm 71 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: practicing a great deal. I'm doing my Walter Cronkite imitations. 72 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm brushing up on those. 73 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: I don't know about that, no, but it is very intimate, 74 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 3: so I do want people to know, like it's it's yeah, 75 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: you're gonna be up close and personal with these guys. 76 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. We're just 77 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: gonna just rip the roof off. 78 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: That snow is expensive. 79 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: Is expensive little pieces of paper, right. 80 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 4: The most expensive part. 81 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: It's sort of true. 82 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: It's sort of well, look, we're gonna bring you a 83 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: great show, great guests. We're gonna have a blast, and 84 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet everybody in the meet and 85 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: greets and that it's just gonna be We're real. It's 86 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: it's really really pumped for this, So it's it's we're 87 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna We're going to give you one hundred and ten percent. 88 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: So the easiest way to get tickets to the in 89 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: person event is if you can go to our Instagram. 90 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: On our page, there's a little link. It'll take you 91 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 4: to a link tree and you can click in person 92 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: tickets and that'll take you to the exact link. And 93 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: that's the best way you can buy tickets. 94 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: All right, good deal, good? I love it. 95 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: So, okay, guys, maybe we should synopsize first. 96 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm ready to synopsize. 97 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: All right. 98 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 5: This is season six, episode fifteen, a Vineyard Valentine, and 99 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 5: it aired appropriately enough on February fourteenth, two thousand and six. 100 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 5: It's a couple's weekend with Luke and Lorelei Logan in 101 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 5: Martha's vineyard, but Luke doesn't seem too keen on hanging 102 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 5: out with Logan. The weekend is then ruined when Mitcham 103 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 5: shows up demanding Logan to leave right away and tells 104 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 5: him he is moving to London right after graduation. 105 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: Was I the only one that thought half the episode 106 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: was awesome and half was really not great? 107 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Well, it's all this. The first half was all this 108 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: setup and getting there, and we're getting out of Star's 109 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: Hollow and getting out of our comfort zone and going 110 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: to the vineyard. I was looking forward to it. I 111 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: was like, Yay, let's go on a trip. But right 112 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: off the bat, Luke just seemed a little that's like, 113 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: can you It's like the impression that I got from both, well, 114 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: especially from Luke, is that he was just It's like, dude, really, yes, 115 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: you're a grown man. Chill stop with the covetching about everything. 116 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: And she slams him in the bedroom about it. He 117 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: deserved that. 118 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like a different character. 119 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: It was. He was like this very cagey, strange guy 120 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: who didn't want to mix with anybody or do anything. 121 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, who the hell would want to marry that? 122 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 123 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: Right, I think that. 124 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: I think that's what was bothering me. He was so 125 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: likely who is that guy? 126 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: Right? 127 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: Once Logan gave him the gift, it all switched. But 128 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: I was just like, what is going on? 129 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: I just have never seen Luke so weak, drawn, so 130 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: weak as a chara annoying and annoying and really weakened 131 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: in front of Logan when Logan figured out his gift 132 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: problem and Luke said, well, I mean, he just seems 133 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: so and he just forgot here's a word I wanted 134 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: to use, is impotent. He just seemed impotent as a man. 135 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: He just wouldn't have forgotten the gift. Like nor he 136 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: wouldn't have He would never not have the gift. 137 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 6: Now. 138 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: I get that it wasn't exactly Valentine's Day yet, and 139 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: so I sort of was giving him a little bit 140 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: of a pass for that, but like he also would 141 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: never be such a rude guest. 142 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Hmm. 143 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: Well, Also, going back to the gift, Laurel I's reaction 144 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: made it seem like she's never received a Valentine's Day gift. 145 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: That's how I sick it. 146 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: But it's so weird. He gives her gifts all the time. 147 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: That's why I just thought it was odd. It's funny, Amy, 148 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna say the weird part, or 149 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 4: the part that you felt was off, was that they 150 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: were not on their sets. 151 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: Like clearly this was a I mean that they were 152 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: in Malibu. 153 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, bother but weirdly enough, like for some reason, whenever 154 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: shows do that and they go like on location or 155 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: you know, like down the street, it bothers me. Weird 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 4: this one didn't bother me for some reason. I think 157 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: it's because we always hear that, like the Gilmore's go 158 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: to Martha's vineyard, and like he kind of created this 159 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 4: like I don't know, I something in my head that 160 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: like this is where they always go. So for me, 161 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: it just felt like normal. But I made this place 162 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: up in my head. 163 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: And part of the house tracked for me where I'm like, 164 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: that's what the house would be like. The house was 165 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: not nearly fancy enough though. 166 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know that was I believe that was 167 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: Olivia Newton John's house. 168 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you know what. That's sort of ringing 169 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: a bell for me. 170 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 5: It was Malibu, Like, it definitely was Mayeah. 171 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: First of all. The one thing I don't like about 172 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: Gilmour girls, and I don't know if it's a money thing, 173 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: when they do those sort of establishing shots that are 174 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: like we got these from by establishing shots dot com 175 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: that weird seagull and it was so like, oh my god, 176 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: and it just felt like Malibu. I was like we 177 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: and I don't know, maybe it's because we're all from LA, 178 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: like we all live in La. It was so Malibui, like. 179 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't think it fooled anybody because there's 180 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 5: leaves on the trees, Like there was nothing about it 181 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 5: that looked like New England. 182 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: And isn't Martha's vineyard. You're like sea level, there's not 183 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: like tall tall. 184 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: Right, yes, yeah, there's no mountain behind you. 185 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, happening. And then at the beginning, the house just 186 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: seemed like is this like an airban be fairly cheap 187 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: house in Malibu, Like it wasn't mansionny, It wasn't what 188 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: the Huntsburgers would have like. It was so like the 189 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: decor was okay, but again it was not up to 190 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: the level. And so I just was like, what's happened? Yeah, 191 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: and Luke was acting like a fool. 192 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 5: It was like a whole alternate universe Gilmore Girls, Like 193 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 5: it just was really like Luke was weird. Rory was 194 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 5: really weird. I don't know what her deal was. I 195 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: don't know. I didn't understand the whole thing with Luke 196 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 5: not having the right clothes. 197 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: Like is the weather. 198 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 5: Than the weather in Connecticut, Like he just would have 199 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: to bring what. 200 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: He would wear at home? Why should come on? 201 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: It's like he came from Malibu to like the East 202 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: coast right, like he. 203 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: Would just wear he would have been wearing. 204 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: Like the good laugh for me was the Martha's Vineyard sweats. 205 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, at least that made me chuckle because I'm like, 206 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: exactly what. 207 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 5: But he like he brings a camp stove, but he 208 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 5: doesn't bring a jacket like that. 209 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: It was so first of all, right, why would he 210 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: bring any of that nonsense? It was so insane. He 211 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: was acting cuckoo. 212 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 6: Who. 213 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: I also don't. 214 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: Believe that Luke never had lobster before. 215 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: I refuse to believe that. It's hard to that's that's 216 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: hard to swallow. 217 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And also I'm sorry, but Rory went from being 218 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: Rory to Rachel Ray in like five seconds flat. 219 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: That girl has never cut anything, Like she use a 220 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 4: microwave and throws like pizza in the oven like that's it. 221 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 5: And when she was doing the tour, she was like 222 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 5: a little girl playing house. She's like, don't use you 223 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 5: know only one person can use the shower and also 224 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: open the window like she just was like marrying the house, 225 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 5: which flat. 226 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We have done enough of our research to 227 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 3: know that the Huntsburgers are almost billionaires, right right, They 228 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: definitely do not have a house in Martha's Vineyard where 229 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: only one person can shower at a time. Exactly. 230 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 5: It's like, no way, okay, so fix them like the 231 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 5: a even like just let stuff like that go exactly. 232 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: That's why it was so like, this does not track. 233 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: This is like, like I said, it, fine, then make 234 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: it an airbnb. 235 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: That or say they just bought it and they're flipping 236 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: it like something like but you know what I mean. 237 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: That's not gonna work because we know this is like 238 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: this is their like halatial Martha's Vineyard estate and I 239 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: have never been to Martha's Vineyard, but I have enough 240 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: knowledge in the Worldwide Web to know that's not what 241 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: the Huntsburgers would have. 242 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Like where's like what I think that house fit into 243 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: the budget? The episode budget? Quite yes. 244 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I mean it's pretty cool that 245 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: it was a living in John's house, but like I. 246 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Said, it was either her house or her house was 247 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: next door or something like that. 248 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: It was just so Malibu that's pretty budget. Went like literally, 249 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: I was like, can we just go to Howdies and 250 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: get a burrito? Because literally we're in Malibu? Like it 251 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: was just so why didn't they just make it Malibu. 252 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: I don't know anyway. That really took me out. And 253 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: also like everybody, you're right, Suzanne was just weird. 254 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Logan was consistent. His character always seems 255 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: to be very consistent. Now he he he was. He 256 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: was the entertainment part for me. 257 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: Zere was probably like why is everybody acting crazy? He's like, 258 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be me what. 259 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: I enjoyed him. He was his charming self, Like. 260 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: Even at the basketball he was normal. And Lucas I 261 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: think so weird and who suddenly snap snaps for a 262 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: gym person to give them a massage? 263 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: Like I was just like so weird. It was so strange. 264 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: Also, like Laura, I will say I did laugh at 265 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: Laura I and Rory going to the gym, but like 266 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: literally just like not knowing what to do it. That 267 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: was a little like on point with the two of them. 268 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: But okay, the one thing I will say, and I 269 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: know we're going out of order, but like this episode 270 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: was so weird, we just have to you know, when 271 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: the gym guy's like can I work in? I I 272 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't have known what that meant either, except I just 273 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: listened to Arnold Schwarzenegger on SmartLess and totally learned because 274 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: Arnold will say like, can I work in? And I'm like, 275 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: oh my god, Okay, now I know what that means. 276 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: I've never heard that. 277 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Arnold totally explained it. Scott Nos, Scott. 278 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: Nos, Yeah, I tried to work in yesterday. I didn't 279 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: let him, just gave him a luck get out of here. 280 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: Okay, So let's let's go back. So we started the episode, 281 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: and it was weird from the start. First of all, 282 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: in this we must have had a hiatus, right, because 283 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: the recap was extraordinarily long, which I get if I 284 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: wasn't watching how we're watching every week, right, But it 285 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: must have been. When did this air February fourteenth? Maybe 286 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: they didn't have a lot of episodes in January, I 287 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: don't know, But the recap was just so. 288 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: It also went back a little bit, like really back 289 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: towards older episodes in the season, like it was at 290 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: last week's episode. 291 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: Suki made me laugh and she said, Zuki, you mean sucky, 292 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: But I just don't think she's going to be like 293 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: struggling that hard over the Valentine's menus. I liked louralized 294 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: curls in the rap dress right out the gate. But like, 295 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, what do you guys think of just 296 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: sort of the inn and then the Zydago mess and 297 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: the whole thing. 298 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Well, it was there were just you know, it wasn't 299 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: your obviously your traditional Gilmore Girls episode where we're in 300 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: stars Hollow and we get to see everybody in town. 301 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: We saw Luke, Laureli, Rory and Logan and that's pretty 302 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: much it. 303 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, except for the very beginning. 304 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: Mitcham came in and then we get a little suki 305 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: in the beginning and there's some zydeco stuff, which was like, huh. 306 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: I think that just shows how off this episode was. 307 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: Was the it was so incongruous with the and it 308 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: was maybe a funny bit, yeah, but we didn't get 309 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: to see anybody else in this episode, and it's like. 310 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: It could have been good four. 311 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Characters carrying the whole show. Yeah, And I don't know 312 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: if we pulled it. 313 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: Off because you weren't yourselves. 314 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that bit with the band actually 315 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 4: could have worked in a different episode. Like I thought 316 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: it was kind of funny. I just feel like it 317 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 4: it had nothing to do with this episode. 318 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, other than I guess she's you know, it was 319 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: heartfelt when she sort of is realizing, like June third 320 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: is not happening, right, So that was sort of okay. 321 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: You know, look I giggled when she said led Zep 322 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: again because I was like, I love those yacht rocky 323 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: you know, cover bands, Super Diamond, all that kind of stuff, 324 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, go for led Zep again. 325 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: But otherwise it was sort of just like what's going on? 326 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: A yeah, A little U just joined it at a 327 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: character uh out of its elements in Martha's vineyard, which 328 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: was not depicted well right, and just like it was 329 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: a very strained Even having said all that, I was 330 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: still entertained because we have Logan to keep us afloat. 331 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: Well, and it got good in the second half, So okay, 332 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: we'll get We'll get to that. So then we get 333 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 3: the setup right, So we're in the uh, we're in 334 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: the apartment and in Logan's apartment. Now the bed felt 335 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: like it was in the living room for me, but 336 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 3: maybe it's just a very large bedroom. Did anybody else. 337 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: I was a little thrown off by the bed being 338 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: with the couch, and I was like, am I. 339 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't quite get it. Either it feels like 340 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 5: it's just one giant open room. Maybe it's a loft, 341 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, maybe anyway, you know, and look, 342 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 5: Logan's gonna be up at eleven. 343 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: But that was still sort of funny. The whole world's up, 344 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: YadA YadA. 345 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: Now. 346 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: I thought it was really cute when he said bring 347 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: your mother and the guy. Now he would have known 348 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: his name, but otherwise it was cute. 349 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 5: It was nice of him to think of them. 350 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, that was all cute. What was Ducididies again? 351 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: A Greek philosopher. 352 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, So then we sort of have a brief visit 353 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: to the paper and she's like pretty much got her 354 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: leave together at the paper, right like, feeling like that's 355 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: going well. And then we sort of tea up, like, no, 356 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: take the weekend off, it's been We. 357 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: See her interpersonal skills with her staff. Yes, that she's 358 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: a good leader and that she listens and she cares 359 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: about people. 360 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: Empowers them and the whole thing right like that was 361 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: all good. My next takeaway was just I am a 362 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: fan of low Rise jeans. I love the. 363 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 7: Low Rise Jens and this Loralai really wears low Rise jeans, 364 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 7: so that really stood out from and then so Rory 365 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 7: calls and, you know, kind of says to Lurlai, come, 366 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 7: this was Logan's idea, and let's do it. 367 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, it just took too long to get there, 368 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: Like we should have just like going to the beach 369 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: how or Martha's vineyar should have been like the sub 370 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 4: should have been one scene, Like that's the same point. 371 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 4: I think that's what it is. It was just two. 372 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 4: I think it was like, let's see one, two, three, 373 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 4: it's like four scenes before we even got to Martha's vineyard. 374 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I want to talk about it, Yeah, 375 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: you want to talking about it. We have that moment 376 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: that I thought was important where she says it's the 377 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 3: last nail in the June third coffin. So I was like, oh, okay, 378 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: all right, But but Luke and Laureley seemed to be 379 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: getting along great, Like yeah, you know, he was sort 380 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 3: of a curmudgeon about it, but otherwise, like they seem 381 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: to be getting along. I'm taking the truck. 382 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: I think it's one of those things when you tell 383 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: someone like for her, it's she told people a date, 384 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: especially her mom, and that date sticks with people because now, 385 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: like if it doesn't happen. I think it's more of 386 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 4: she's okay with Luke and she's okay with the situation. 387 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: I think she's worried about what other people think now, 388 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: because like remember when Suki was like what did you do? 389 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 4: Why is it not happening? And then like it wasn't me, 390 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: it was because of April. So I think it's more 391 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: of how people. She's worried about how people think about 392 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: her more than shitting married. 393 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: The one that suggested moving the wedding. 394 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, but not because she wanted to though, yeah. 395 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: She thought it was the right thing to do, but still. 396 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he didn't disagree. He agreed with her to 397 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 4: move it. 398 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: So few questions for Scott. Did you feel that the 399 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: luggage had stuff in it? Or were you just caring 400 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: very lightweight to so I'm glad. 401 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. I thought I was 402 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: selling it very well. Luggage I accently do up until 403 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: the point. There was an accident when I I put 404 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: the big bag down before loading it into the truck 405 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: at Lorelei's house and it it almost toppled over and 406 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: it looked very light, So I thought, oh, that's. 407 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: You nailed it on the stairs and going out of 408 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: the house, I really thought, oh wow, those are some 409 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: heavy suitcases. And then all of a sudden, I was 410 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: like like an envelope. My next two questions. 411 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: Gravity was my enemy in that scene. 412 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: The next question for Scott, are there not seat belts 413 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: in that truck? 414 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: Die? I believe there are. 415 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 3: Properly okay lap belts. I did not see a restraint. 416 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't I actually don't recall lap belts. I think 417 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: it was just such a vined truck. It didn't have anything. 418 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: So sketchy driving to Martha's vineyard in the winter with 419 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: no seat belts, just slashing all around that bench seat. 420 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: We roll man. 421 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: My next topic for everybody though, Even though Luke was 422 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 3: being super curmudgeony, I thought it was okay for him 423 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: to say, where do we stand with this guy? Oh, 424 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: we've called a truce. That part didn't bother me. That 425 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: needed to be acknowledged. I will agree with you, Luke. 426 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: I don't like staying at other people's houses either. It's 427 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: not fun, it's weird. 428 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: I agree, I don't mind it. I mean, if it's 429 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: a nice house. 430 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: Over a hotel, would you rather stay a hotel? Or 431 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: someone's house my own. 432 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: I'd rather stay at somebody's house if it's you know, 433 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: I really would. No, I've always had good experiences with that, 434 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: especially in ski country, you know. 435 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 3: But you are they there renting a house is. 436 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they're there and they're hosting you, and 437 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: it's and it's fun. I love it. 438 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: Oh God, you have to be so on your best behavior. 439 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 3: You can't just cloud around and watch TV. You have 440 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: to make the bed. You guys need to google Sebastian 441 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: Man of Scalco. That can be bit on staying at 442 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: other people's houses, as it sums it up perfectly, just 443 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: like Rory when she's like, oh you can't take a 444 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: share at the same time like he does this a 445 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: whole bit about like this toilet doesn't really work, so 446 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: jiggle a handle. 447 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: And you're just like, oh see, that's I think that's 448 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: the problem. I think what you pointed out earlier is 449 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't a palatial enough to stay for them to 450 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: be behaving that way once they got inside the house 451 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: that would have sold that same behavior in some kind 452 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: of gorgeous mansion that was obviously worth you know, twenty 453 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars that would have tracked, right. 454 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: It says something, Am I right? He says something at 455 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: I'd been grandma's house. It has its kinks something. But 456 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: I still was like, hey, the Huntsburgers, no way, that 457 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: thing would have eight showers. 458 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: Right, that all they would have remodeled exactly. 459 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: They would have had beautiful marble, white marble. 460 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 5: I think they were trying to make it seem like 461 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 5: this is the cun Tree getaway cabin, you know, whack shack. 462 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's his exact Actually, Amy, his exact line was, 463 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 4: it's a grandma, so it's got its kinks. It's a grandma. 464 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: That's what he said. 465 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: Camp. 466 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad they acknowledge it and don't act 467 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: like at least somehow, but I still was like, no way, 468 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: these people are a millionaires. 469 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 5: And the way they described it, like Rory talks about 470 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 5: how the dining room seats twenty, but like that doesn't 471 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 5: correlate with what we saw visually. That did not look 472 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 5: like a place that has a dining room that seats twenty. 473 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: We saw five hundred dollars night Airbnb. Yeah, okay, okay, well, 474 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: and then now we get to where I sort of 475 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: was like, oh, Luke, you know, calling him snotty and 476 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: saying that he oh did you see how Logan was 477 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: so rude? He corrected Rory about the gym. 478 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: I was just like, what, Yeah, that was weird stuff up, 479 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: Like I wanted to just smack them. 480 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: And like why would they be scared to leave their room? 481 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: It was so odd. 482 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, this was where I was like, oh my god, 483 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: I am not this is. 484 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 4: If it was to Luke that Luke doesn't like Logan, 485 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 4: then okay, I feel like there was another way of 486 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 4: doing it. But it just felt like out of character. 487 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he like needs a signal the next morning 488 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 5: to come out. 489 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: Did you tell him I was hiding? I mean, it's 490 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: it's so forced, everything so forced, and. 491 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 3: Luke's a stud, right, so he's not going to be 492 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 3: a weirdo. Like he's gonna own that thing. He's going 493 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: to be in the kitchen cooking up the meal. Like 494 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: he's literally just not going to be such a weirdo. 495 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: I wrote, why is Luke so weird? 496 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: That's maybe maybe it's you take him out of the diner, 497 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: you take him out of that town, you put that 498 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: behavior in someplace else and it's glaring. Maybe that's the reason. 499 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: Is it Camper, Right, he's not going to be bothered 500 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: by the waves or stand the raccoon, Like, I mean, 501 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: we're beating a dead horse, right, Like Luke was a weirdo. 502 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: We have to just acknowledge that. Whatever. 503 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: That's the one episode that I would erase. If you 504 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: were to say, you know, take your best episode and 505 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: take your worst episode and just get them out so 506 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: we can average in, you know, that would be for me. 507 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: I'd say deep six to that episode. 508 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: I love it. I think things took a turn once 509 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: they're having the dinner, right, But okay, first let's get 510 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 3: to a couple of things. Rory coming down the steps 511 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 3: in Malibu and her cute blue coat. She did have 512 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: a cute cloth. Then they're all going to the gym. 513 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: Gym. 514 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: They're all going to the gym. We've acknowledged the gym 515 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 3: was weird. Although I did enjoy his Luke's Martha's beenyard thing. 516 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: This is where I wrote this episode isn't good. So 517 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: at this point I'm sort of like, really like, this 518 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: is not good and we're just wasting time, right, Like 519 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: the gym was just like filling airtime to me. 520 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we got the gym twice, right, not just once. 521 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 4: Didn't they go back to it? 522 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: No, they were there. It just felt like that because 523 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: first they were in the gym, then we went to 524 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: the basketball, then we. 525 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: Went But here's the thing, what an opportunity to to 526 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: lampoon Martha's vineyard. 527 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: Or to make it awesome either way either way? 528 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 6: Right? 529 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: And then they chose to go into a. 530 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: Gym with right, which was like clearly in LA where 531 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: they put up stickers that said Martha's Vineyard gym or 532 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: something else. 533 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: Right, right, And Rory says, Oh, we like to go 534 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: to the gym when we're here. But then you see 535 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 5: her there and she doesn't understand anything. 536 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: That's happening exactly. Obviously she doesn't go. 537 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 5: To the jim while we're there. 538 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: Right. 539 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 4: I actually have a question. 540 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 5: It makes sense, Scott. 541 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: I have a questioned. The show is in season We 542 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: in season five, yeah, five, six? 543 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 3: Sorry six? 544 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 4: So at this point the show is very successful, has 545 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: made a lot of money. Why wouldn't they just like 546 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: send you guys on location, because like other networks have 547 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: done it, where like ABC would send all their tgifs 548 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: to Disney World, like they would spend the money. 549 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: Well, you've got that real characters in the episode. 550 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Because it's CW, the budgets aren't as big, the profit 551 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: isn't as big, the revenue is in as big. 552 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: Right, I think they spent the money on oliving in 553 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: John's House like it was already expensive. 554 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Taking the budgets on these shows was not what you 555 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: know a friend's budget is or or you know. 556 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: Man, Modern Family had their money. 557 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: Right if you're if your show, if you have a 558 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: hit show on a major network ABCNBCCBS, Fox, now I 559 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: guess we joined the big that's the Big Four, then 560 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: you you've got some money to burn and you're making 561 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: large dollars on at that time the DVD side and all, 562 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, all kinds of revenue streams coming in. But 563 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: on the CW with Gilmour, even though it was a 564 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: hit show, it didn't have the it didn't have those 565 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: size the side. 566 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: I can give you a little a little fun fact 567 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: if you all want it. So you know the Ryan 568 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: Murphy show nine to one one, that's on Fox. It's Foxes, 569 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: that's right, just went it's Fox's biggest hit. Right now, 570 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: they're all kind of owned by the same people, so whatever, 571 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: But it's Fox's biggest hit, but the show is so 572 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: expensive that Fox couldn't afford it anymore. And that's why 573 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: nine to one one is now going to be on ABC. 574 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: So you think about that because that show is so 575 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: expensive to do with the stunts, and. 576 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, that's a great example. I didn't think about that. 577 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can afford it. Right. This is why 578 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: hit shows get canceled, and nobody can understand. The audience 579 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: is like, why did you cancel? It was the number one, 580 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: it was huge hit and all because it's too expensive 581 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: to produce profit margin and as it as it, you know, 582 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: labor costs and casts want more salary. Then it just 583 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: gets more expensive every every year, but the revenue streams 584 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: remain the same or go down or dwindle. 585 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: So it's an interesting thing though, because I would have 586 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: just kept you all in Stars Hollow. But whatever, for 587 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: whatever reason they wanted you to. 588 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: Malbot, don't get out of the boat. 589 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: Right right stage. Just do this same kind of concept. 590 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: I would have enjoyed if Rory and Logan decided to 591 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: come home to Stars Hollow for the weekend, we could 592 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: have had the same sort of episode, or or a 593 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: Loreleizes House with Luke there and they're kind of having that. 594 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: I guess the thing here is when it gets good 595 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: is when Mitcham comes in. But we'll get to that. 596 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, Valentine's Day in stars Hollow would have been 597 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: amazing with Babette and and. 598 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: Still could have had Mitcham come blaring in. Right if 599 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: Mitchen went all the way from wherever he lives to 600 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: Martha's vineyard. He could have gone from wherever he lives 601 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: to stars Hollow and just knocked on the Gilmore door. 602 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: I imagine how much more disturbing and shocking if he 603 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: came into that very placid environment and blew up like that. 604 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: That would have been amazing. 605 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, and then reacted like I don't think he's happier. 606 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: Right, right, right exactly. It could have been so good. 607 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: And then he was like a volcano. 608 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, thought he was gonna head, was gonna blow exactly. 609 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 5: It would have been so that would be a. 610 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: Right well back in the world we're in then now 611 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: we talked about this very reluctantly, and Rory's cooking, which 612 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: was weird, like she doesn't know how to cook. She's 613 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: not gonna suddenly take it up when she goes to 614 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: Martha's vineyard. Nope, I get the GISTs we're supposed to get, 615 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: like they she knows where everything is and they's such 616 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: a happy couple and they're going on their trip to 617 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: Asia so that it's more disruptive when mitchem whatever. So 618 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: then we go outside and Logan says, I'm going to 619 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: do the gift at dinner, and Luke's like, what murder 620 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: Like he's never heard of a Valentine's President before. My 621 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: problem here. 622 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: Is stupid wardrobe. 623 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: The tennis bracelet. Let me tell you how much a 624 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: tennis bracelet is not cheap, minimum five grand, probably maybe 625 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: thirty five hundred, right, So they were clearly a set. 626 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: So he's got this necklace. That necklace would have been 627 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: so expensive and just not the kind of thing that 628 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: Luke would have. 629 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: And why didn't she suss that out? And that's what 630 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: I thought she was gonna send when she was holding it, 631 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: like I thought so too, Ogan gave this to you 632 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: because it looks exactly like the tennis bracelet. It came 633 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: in a set. 634 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 4: Her reaction was like, in all these years, she has 635 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 4: never received a gift from Luke. That's how our reaction was. Well, 636 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 4: she has as I know she has, but her reaction 637 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 4: was like, oh my, oh my god. 638 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: I have never seen such a beloved couple ever portrayed 639 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: in such a bad light on TV. 640 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 3: It was so weird. 641 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: It was just like. 642 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 3: Like, well le meshing and then I had such a 643 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: flag on the way Rory was doing the tomatoes. Nobody 644 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: puts tomatoes slice like that in their salad. She was 645 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: cutting them like they were for a hamburger or sandwich. 646 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: I was just getting so irritated. 647 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 6: I was. 648 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 4: It's like it was at that point when we started 649 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 4: just picking apart. 650 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: It was, but it does. It does that happens. It's snowballs. 651 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: If something is a little oft and then it just 652 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: starts snowballing. Then you just it's you. 653 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 3: And now you're now you're Logan's best friend because he 654 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 3: gave you a necklace. Like that's sort of a D 655 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: move too, Like, oh, I only like this rich guy 656 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 3: because he saved my ass. Right, Yeah. 657 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: I was just like how to destroy a character one 658 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: on one? 659 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: And Rory so is is the word insipid? She's so 660 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: like these could be the ones like I'm sorry, what 661 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: about your whole Christian amanpour career? You're the head of 662 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 3: the Yale paper. These could be the ones. 663 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 5: Well, and Luke and Lory were engaged, so clearly it's 664 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 5: not Luke could be the one, like Luke is the one. 665 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 5: They're engaged to be married. 666 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: I just don't understand. 667 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: We don't understand. 668 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 4: I don't think I ever ripped apart. 669 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: We had one other one we didn't like, but this 670 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 3: one's definitely going. And then like they're clapping for her, 671 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 3: Celery cutting, like what's happening. 672 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 5: Well, did you notice that Luke after all that about 673 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 5: the lobsters, Luke is the only one that had any 674 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 5: lobster pieces on his plate, Like Logan had like one 675 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: little piece, Rory had one little piece. It's like they 676 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 5: make this big deal about making the lobster and the 677 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 5: no one it. 678 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 679 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 3: And then also like they have to add in like, yeah, 680 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: we went to the same shop so we could bod 681 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: these together, like give it get the next. 682 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, they had to come up with the cover. 683 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 1: Let's just pause for a second. Let's each of us 684 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: state something positive about the episode. Ready, go, Tara, go. 685 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 3: The end until this. 686 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 4: Point the end to end credits, No, no, not until 687 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 4: this point. 688 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 3: Only Zukree is all I can and. 689 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: Do Zoree, Susan, what do you think? 690 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 5: The only thing in this episode that redeems it for 691 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 5: me is Luke saying I love you? 692 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 3: You know I love you? 693 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was awing feature of this episode. 694 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: It starts to take a turn now, right, It starts 695 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 3: to get better now because he sort of acknowledges I've 696 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 3: been preoccupied, you know, I love you. We can have 697 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 3: lobster at our wedding. No, now it's taking a turn 698 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: right where they're sort of getting back to themselves. She 699 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 3: loves the necklace. Then they wake up the next morning 700 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 3: they slept like angels. The breakfast Santa blah blah blah. 701 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 3: It's starting to get Now, I'm starting to feel like 702 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: more comfortable. Okay, I know where I am right, I'm 703 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 3: now I'm in Gilmore Girls, and it's like the the 704 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: Emilio Estevez reference. I'm like, okay, now I'm starting to 705 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: like this. They think they're going to elope really get 706 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 3: in somewhere and incomes bit Chum and that Now I'm like, 707 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 3: now cooking. I was like, now I'm now I'm. 708 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 4: Like forty one minutes. 709 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But mitcham as unhinged as he is 710 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 8: it was Now I loved it, right, Mitcham is yelling 711 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 8: at Logan. 712 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 3: Mitcham's so awful, he's so embarrassing, he's so inappropriate, and 713 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 3: the face acting ten out of ten because Rory's watching 714 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 3: lorealized face Luke everybody. Now I'm like, now this is good. 715 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 4: I think a lot of times we hear Logan say 716 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 4: how far his dad is on him, but we we've 717 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 4: only seen it like maybe once, But I think this 718 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 4: is where we really see it, like you're gonna do this, 719 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: You're gonna follow in my footsteps. End of discussion. You're 720 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 4: getting on that plane like we finally saw it instead 721 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 4: of hearing about it well, And we. 722 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 3: Get to see Luke say you need any help there, 723 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 3: which meant you okay, buddy, like I got it, and 724 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 3: then Loral says no one understands, like I understand, and 725 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 3: we're having this moment where I'm like they're all bonding, 726 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: and then he's very sweet with Rory like when are 727 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 3: you leaving? And he's like, let's just not think about it. 728 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: It's only February like all that. Suddenly, I literally don't 729 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 3: know how far into the episode we were, but now 730 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, now I like this. 731 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you had to feel for Logan. I mean, 732 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: no matter how you feel about him as a character, 733 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: you had to feel for him in that moment. 734 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: And Greg Henry, who plays Mitcham, pulls that off because 735 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 3: that could have been over the top or too Carney 736 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 3: or too he pulled that off, like he comes in 737 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 3: like that Dad would yelling and raising his voice and 738 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 3: talking down and who are you? And da da da 739 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: and still like well they stay, but you're out of here, 740 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 3: you know, like and you He really pulls that off 741 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 3: that character. 742 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 5: That scene where the two of them are just screaming 743 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 5: over each other was really well done. 744 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and. 745 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,959 Speaker 3: The faces on the other three it's like, oh my god. 746 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: And I liked that they didn't step in because that 747 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: would have been not okay. 748 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: Here's a technical aspect of that. Greg and Matt knew 749 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: going in that they weren't going to cover the scene. 750 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: Means they weren't going to do cover close ups or 751 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: coverage either side of that argument. So the director was 752 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: it Dan Palatine Dance. So Dan said, look, this is 753 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: just going to be a two shot. You'll both be 754 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: in profiles to go ahead and overlap each other's dialogue, 755 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: because when you do coverage, they really discourage you from 756 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: overlapping dialogue. They want to interesting, so then it kind 757 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 1: of comes off stilted a little bit, but the editors 758 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: oftentimes want that space to cut the scene right. And luckily, 759 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: luckily those guys got a free pass to be great, 760 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, and no considerations for editing or no considerations 761 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: for coverage. They could just go, you know, full speed overlap, 762 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: let's go, let's create a great, great scene like you 763 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: would see in the theater. 764 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 3: Well, it feels like Dan Palladino's just showed up, like 765 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 3: he just started. Maybe at the Valentine's Dinner scene. I 766 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: feel like he wasn't directing it leading up to that 767 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 3: because it was so bizarre. But now it's like whoa. 768 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 3: And then I think it thrives from there. When we 769 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 3: go back to the diner. It felt good, and Caesar 770 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 3: is sort of like, wait, I was to tell you something, 771 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 3: what was that? And then you sort of get the 772 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 3: balloon popped when he brings up April, because suddenly Lorelei 773 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 3: isn't a part of it again. And I wanted so 774 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 3: badly for Luke to say, well, no, why don't you 775 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 3: come why don't you come. I thought it was weird 776 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 3: that she says the bike's at my place. 777 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: Isn't it. It almost sounded place. It almost sounded like 778 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: a breakup. It was. It was yeah again, it was 779 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: just it was actually didn't think. 780 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 3: That the bike's at my place. It's their place. 781 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 4: It's It's funny though, because now that you say it, 782 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 4: I think about it. But when I was watching it, 783 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 4: I was just like, well, that's laurelized, Like in my head, yeah, there, he. 784 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: Just paid, But yeah, why are they acting like they're 785 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: breaking up and it's her place and he's got to 786 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: come get his stuff out of there. 787 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 3: She's gonna walk home. Like even though it was still good, 788 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 3: now it was good strange instead of like, what showing 789 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: my strange strength. 790 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, the ending was just really disappointing for me because 791 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 5: you felt like when they had that moment at that 792 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 5: Martha's vineyard house and he was like, oh, you know, 793 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 5: I'm sorry I didn't that's just how I am. You 794 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 5: kind of felt like, Okay, now he's aware of what 795 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 5: laurelized perspective is, and now he's going to be better 796 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 5: about letting her. When I get back to the diner, 797 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 5: and it just goes right back to what it was. 798 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, Laurela I by and I was so disappointed. 799 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, I guess we didn't make any progress here. 800 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then we come so Laura I 801 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 3: walks home. I did like the flower on the back 802 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 3: of her jacket, and we play the messages, which I 803 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 3: thought was an effective way of telling this part of 804 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 3: the story. My flag is, why would it just be 805 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 3: Larelli's picture in the paper that was so weird everyone else? 806 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 3: Why would it Why would Emily not put a picture 807 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 3: of Luke and Larelai? 808 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: So I think I think that says a lot about 809 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: how she feels about. 810 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 3: Luke and how would she have a picture of Luke. 811 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: It's a diss I mean, I don't know. 812 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 4: I think it's at the end of the day, it's 813 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 4: all about her daughter and her daughter's getting married because 814 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 4: it's going to be Emily's day, you know. It's yeah, 815 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 4: this is more of an event for Emily than than 816 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 4: it is Laura Lai and Lukes. So I think she 817 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 4: just that's how she took it, like because it's her 818 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 4: status and d A R and all that stuff. 819 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that she would have had a 820 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 5: reason to have a picture of Luke though. 821 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 3: Did you think it was at the birthday party or 822 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 3: at the re wedding, sorry, the re wedding. 823 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 4: She could have asked for one, she could have exactly, 824 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 4: but then she. 825 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 3: Was then Laura I would have known what she was doing, 826 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 3: and she would have had to tell her the date 827 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: was postponed. Yeah, Luke or everybody was hot? 828 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: All right? So I think, uh, we are going to 829 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: wrap up this delightful episode. 830 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 3: So now what do we raid it? 831 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: Going to it? 832 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 3: Her favorite lines really from it? 833 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 4: I had one I actually chuckled at. It was a 834 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 4: the school paper and it's when they were saying us 835 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 4: and them, and then Rory was like what are they 836 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 4: put on the paper? And He's like s and m 837 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 4: oh yeah. I actually I had laugh at that. 838 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: A highly unlikely mistake that a yeah, reach HIV, what 839 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: are you giving this? And what is your measure? 840 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 4: Okay, my measuring measuring stick is going to be lobsters 841 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: and I'm going to give it. I'm going to give 842 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 4: it five lobsters. 843 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: That's a lot of lobster, Suzanne, what is. 844 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna give this. I thought that there 845 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 5: was some of the banter was good. So I'm going 846 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 5: to also give this five giant knives. 847 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 848 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 3: I'm giving it six. So I thought I hated it 849 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 3: the most Smarta's vineyards or awkwardly sliced tomatoes. 850 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 4: I can't decide mix the both. 851 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 3: Six. Yeah, it's my lowest we've had in how many 852 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: What episode number? Is this my lowest score? 853 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 854 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 4: I think mine too, mm hmm. 855 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it since I kind of take 856 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: it personally, since I had to watch that myself being 857 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: that and it was not it was not enjoyable, I'm 858 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: going to give it. I'm going to put it down 859 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: into the threes. Oh, I'm going to give it a 860 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: three point six. Fow, I'm going to give it a 861 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: three point six five. Uh, portable camp of burners that 862 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: is out of kerosene. 863 00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 6: The only thing with maybe three points six ' five 864 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 6: bowie knives to take off the feet if anybody involved. 865 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 4: That thing is officially the lowest rating on any episode 866 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 4: we don't. 867 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just think. I mean, listen, I understand 868 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: the creative people like to mix it up if they 869 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: feel a little stale and they come up with an idea. 870 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: Let's take it to Martha's vain. Let's do that. Then 871 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: that's what they must do, uh, to find their way 872 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: back home as it were. So I don't I applaud 873 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: the effort. You know, it's hard to take this out 874 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: of Star's hollow so much and limit it to so 875 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: few characters. So I applaud the effort, But you know, 876 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: the execution is a different story. 877 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 4: I feel like the more we talked about it, I 878 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 4: like dislike I didn't mind being at the beach house 879 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 4: at first, and then alway talking about it, I'm like, yeah, 880 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 4: it just go worse. 881 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll sway anyway, I'm worried, you know what. 882 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 3: I also will say, I'm not sure I've seen this episode, 883 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 3: but once, like one episode I've ever rewatched, and I wonder, 884 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 3: like I was literally like, have I even seen this ever? 885 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of like confused. 886 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's a famous so we might be. 887 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 3: In for some trouble, but I do know. Look, anyway, 888 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 3: I digress. 889 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna We're just gonna tuck and roll out of 890 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: this anyway. Thanks, ladies. The house is on fire. Let's 891 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: just get out of that we got to get some 892 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 1: fresh air. Thank you ladies, Tarist, Suit, Susan and French Amy, 893 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: Sugarman and best fans of all the planet thanks for 894 00:48:52,960 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: downloading uh this giant bowl of positivity MS of love anyway, 895 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: we will see you on the seventeenth. 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