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Speaker 4: Your Celtics took a loss last night. The how did you?
Speaker 4: You're a Florida boy? How did you become a Celtics fan?
Speaker 2: You want to hear this real story? Short? It's real short.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: I used to be like cheering for Philadelphia, but every
Speaker 2: time Philadelphia back in the day would play the Celtics. Well,
Speaker 2: I said, hey, you want a bet? I said, no,
Speaker 2: I don't bet be cause my dad was kind of
Speaker 2: really against Bettan And I said, you always go with
Speaker 2: the Celtics he said. He said, it's two reasons I
Speaker 2: go with the Celtics. He said, majority of time I'm winning. Y'all,
Speaker 2: don't take this wrong out there Radio Lab because y'all
Speaker 2: know who Nay It is or how I think. I said,
Speaker 2: why do you really go with the Celtics? He said,
Speaker 2: they're all white and they all could play and I'll
Speaker 2: go win every time. And I say well, and I said, well,
Speaker 2: I ain't the winner, no, because blacks, they're gonna vote
Speaker 2: against the white foks. Better getst the white folks, I said.
Speaker 2: And I watched them for year after year after year,
Speaker 2: just kidding. And then when back then there's when the
Speaker 2: championships too, with John Havlicek and a hundred up. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: come on, Jojo White, all those guys, Nate Tiny Archiball,
Speaker 2: Dave Cowvin's, all them guys. I used to be sitting
Speaker 2: there learning the names, and then I just fell in love.
Speaker 2: And he said you like him. I said, yeah, I
Speaker 2: like them because they win. He usual to look at
Speaker 2: me and I said, okay, you can say what you want.
Speaker 2: I have been to Celtic ever since.
Speaker 4: Man, whatever gets you to that place.
Speaker 3: The Celtics, after being down three zip rushed back, win
Speaker 3: three games in a row, get to a game seven
Speaker 3: and they lose to the Miami Heat, who, when you
Speaker 3: look at the Miami Heat, are a better team. The
Speaker 3: Celtics some more talented. The Miami Heat are a better team.
Speaker 3: And when you have the others step up. Last night,
Speaker 3: the guy Gabe Vincent, who was a G League player
Speaker 3: two way player stepped up twenty something, big points for them.
Speaker 3: He played out tun can help this team get Miami
Speaker 3: gets a tempts. And that takes me into this is
Speaker 3: what we call a professional segue. That takes me into
Speaker 3: our first topic of the day, Yes, sir, for the
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys, because you know, when you get to the
Speaker 3: National Football League, this is the krim de la crem right.
Speaker 3: This is whether you're the acc SEC, whether you're D
Speaker 3: one or D two, whether you're HBC, whatever it is,
Speaker 3: when you get to the National Football League, it is
Speaker 3: the best of the best, and it's the best of
Speaker 3: the best. All of these guys. You got all pros
Speaker 3: on all teams. You got all decade players on all
Speaker 3: these teams. You got all conference. I mean, you have
Speaker 3: all the best of the best on these football teams.
Speaker 3: And not only sometimes the most talented team wins it,
Speaker 3: but sometimes the better team wins it. And I think
Speaker 3: one of the key components for winning championships are the others,
Speaker 3: are the other guys on the football team. And we
Speaker 3: know the Michael Parsons, right, that's gonna be given. Yes,
Speaker 3: we know the quarterback the most important position on the
Speaker 3: football field. But when you look at this roster currently constructed,
Speaker 3: I know that we still have to go through some
Speaker 3: OTAs and I'm not I'm not foreshadowing injury, but just
Speaker 3: the way that it's currently constructed.
Speaker 4: What player or players on this.
Speaker 3: Current roster need to take the next big step? Like,
Speaker 3: what player or player is like all right, Dak's Dak right?
Speaker 4: Micah is Mike right? What players?
Speaker 3: What others on this current roster do you feel have
Speaker 3: to take the next step in order for this Cowboys
Speaker 3: team to find themselves in a place where your Celtics
Speaker 3: used to be, right Cowboys and your Cowboys? You know,
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that perennial until I pass it off
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: Okay, you got to hurry up.
Speaker 4: We got all day. It's just the time that that
Speaker 4: Kurt's out here. I have to eat up that time
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, come on, let's go.
Speaker 3: What player or players have to help the Cowboys get
Speaker 3: back to winning ring number six.
Speaker 2: To getting into the second round of the playoffs and
Speaker 2: win it? Because me, you do see that differently, It
Speaker 2: ain't that easy. I keep treasling, folks. Matt FOURNIOC Matt
Speaker 2: FOURNIOC guard. H he has to play sixty five three eleven.
Speaker 2: He has to come to play. He has to not
Speaker 2: be that injured guy. He has to make it through
Speaker 2: training camp. He has to force the coach his hands
Speaker 2: so much today, really give him, honest the goodness shot
Speaker 2: at that left guard. If we can do that right there,
Speaker 2: that give us a possible starter and definitely a backup
Speaker 2: that can play center too. So if we can get
Speaker 2: Matt fournioc to come in, stay healthy, develop into that. True,
Speaker 2: I would like for him to start, but I don't
Speaker 2: know how coach c Lauri feels about that. But that
Speaker 2: is the guy, and that is the one guy I'm
Speaker 2: gonna talk about all year.
Speaker 3: We got If he doesn't start, then he's a he's
Speaker 3: a valuable right now.
Speaker 2: No, he no, because he's a swing guy. You know,
Speaker 2: he's a swing guy. He's been playing the center. But
Speaker 2: we need for him to start because I'm projecting somewhere
Speaker 2: in there we're gonna have injury, be it Tyron be
Speaker 2: it uh still slow to come back. So now I'm
Speaker 2: trying to do in my mind the rest of the
Speaker 2: musical chairs. If they feel comfortable with him starting, then
Speaker 2: we can put uh Tyron at the right tackle and
Speaker 2: Tyler at the left guard, left tackle. You get what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. If he start, if Still is not ready.
Speaker 2: But if Still is ready, then you go with uh
Speaker 2: beyond it, you go with all Pro, you go with Still,
Speaker 2: You go with Tyrun at the left tackle and Tyler
Speaker 2: at the left guard. And then you still got center
Speaker 2: guard that's ready. And so that guy Matt has to
Speaker 2: step up. Now. Other guys, I'm just gonna wait till
Speaker 2: till it start, because I'm gonna beat this, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna beat it this. If you have no offensive line,
Speaker 2: stop with your foolishness. If you have no offensive line,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, you're not gonna do anything. I don't
Speaker 2: care how good your quarterback is. I don't care how
Speaker 2: great your wide receivers are. You are doomed. So until
Speaker 2: we find out who that left guard is gonna be.
Speaker 2: You know, it could be one of the draftics. It
Speaker 2: could be, but they have to put this guy in training.
Speaker 2: Camp means more to this offensive line now this year
Speaker 2: than it ever has. It cannot be any days off
Speaker 2: for guys. If you ain't played at least six years
Speaker 2: in the league, seven years in the league. You should
Speaker 2: be tennant, coach. I don't need a day off. I'm serious,
Speaker 2: because it's a job to be one. That left guard
Speaker 2: is anybody who desires it. That left guard is anybody
Speaker 2: who desires it, you know. And I would be fighting
Speaker 2: for that if i'm I'm like coach, now, I'm good,
Speaker 2: you know. So that's my one guy, and that's my
Speaker 2: only guy I'm gonna be looking at.
Speaker 4: And that's not a bad that's not a bad place
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 3: And it's fitting right, it's fitting for you for the
Speaker 3: position for this team's success.
Speaker 4: We know that this quarterback.
Speaker 3: And this offense runs more efficiently, more smooth when he
Speaker 3: is able to be clean, yes, and when he's able
Speaker 3: to be clean up the middle, he when he has
Speaker 3: pressure in his face, when things are a little bit
Speaker 3: off kilter. Coming from that vantage point, it throws off
Speaker 3: what Dak Prescott wants to do. And especially now that
Speaker 3: this team is going primarily to this West Coast offense,
Speaker 3: it's more quick timing, this on pace type of offense.
Speaker 3: Having those guys in the middle held up, being being
Speaker 3: able to hold up to get the ball off accurately
Speaker 3: is going to be extremely imperative for this team's success.
Speaker 3: My guy is Sam Williams. My guy is Sam Williams.
Speaker 3: And the reason why my guy I think Sam Williams
Speaker 3: can be an extremely.
Speaker 4: His X factor ability. You can look at Sam.
Speaker 3: Williams that you can say the raw talent is there,
Speaker 3: the raw strength is there. But in a world where
Speaker 3: you can have a guy like Sam Williams who is strong,
Speaker 3: who's young, who's athletic, had four sacks last year, had
Speaker 3: fifteen solo tackles, seven assistant tackles last year. If Sam
Speaker 3: Williams finds hisself in a permanent place, now your rotation
Speaker 3: up front can be magical because we know what would
Speaker 3: you get Michael Parson. You can back him up at linebacker,
Speaker 3: you can have him.
Speaker 4: At rush in.
Speaker 3: You can use a guy like Sam Williams in the interior.
Speaker 3: Out side, you got guys like Tank. I mean, this
Speaker 3: can be a mash up. And then you can kind
Speaker 3: of insert Maszi Smith and and and and Big Hankins
Speaker 3: and that. You know, so if you want to kind
Speaker 3: of get into that. When when I used to play,
Speaker 3: the Giants had had the NASCAR package right, and it
Speaker 3: would be tuck uh Ocean Humena, a young J P. P.
Speaker 3: Chris Candy, I mean the boy I mean, I mean,
Speaker 3: and they were sometimes they would have six guys standing
Speaker 3: up the little Memba defense and and you look up
Speaker 3: and it's it's Candy, It's Tuck, it's.
Speaker 4: Ocean Humana, it's jp P and you like.
Speaker 3: And then they would leave him on a feel for
Speaker 3: like a pump block, and I had to come and
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, please stop, guys. I think Sam
Speaker 3: Williams can give this defense that sort of flexibility if
Speaker 3: he takes that next step. And for him it's it's
Speaker 3: it's not the physical rates, not the physical tools. I
Speaker 3: think the biggest thing for him is the mental part
Speaker 3: of the game. And that's why I always talk about defensively.
Speaker 3: Give me the veteran defensive guys, because good defenses are
Speaker 3: made up of guys who have the ability to learn
Speaker 3: and to be able to move in different formations and
Speaker 3: configurations quickly quickly. If you can assess right now, that
Speaker 3: is defense. If you can read your keys, assess, go
Speaker 3: get the football. If you're thinking, you know this as
Speaker 3: a guard. If I can hook you, I got you.
Speaker 3: If I can get that, if I can get that
Speaker 3: lead leg up the field, I got you. But if
Speaker 3: you beat me to the point, I'm in for a
Speaker 3: dog fight all day long. And that's the mental part
Speaker 3: of the game, understanding down the distance, formations offenses. And
Speaker 3: then now if you've been around especially the Division, you've
Speaker 3: been around the division for a year, You've seen Philadelphia twice,
Speaker 3: You've seen New York twice, You've seen Wash twice. And
Speaker 3: now being able to take that information and that knowledge
Speaker 3: that you had and that you'll continue to gain, put
Speaker 3: that together and now thrust forward into the next season
Speaker 3: with the level of intelligence and information that you haven't
Speaker 3: had before. I think for Sam Williams, he can be
Speaker 3: a guy that can can can really wreck some things
Speaker 3: for opposing offenses coming from this defense.
Speaker 2: This is the amazing thing to add on what you're saying.
Speaker 2: If if Hanks and Mazie and Gallimore and Osa, because
Speaker 2: Osa is gonna be a three down guy, but if
Speaker 2: these other three guys I've mentioned do their job on
Speaker 2: first and second down and always have these guys and
Speaker 2: in passing situation, what you're saying, what you're saying can
Speaker 2: be devastating because that is what kind of happened early
Speaker 2: in the year. You know, before teams just figured out, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to just run regardless of what package they
Speaker 2: have in there, We're gonna run. But now when you
Speaker 2: can stop that run? I limited. Now this this NASCAR
Speaker 2: package you're talking about. And if Sam can mature, you
Speaker 2: know the word we're looking for here is mature.
Speaker 4: That's a great word.
Speaker 2: If he can mature and understand that body slamming folks
Speaker 2: on their neck.
Speaker 3: Like that, I like, like, that's the thing. It's like
Speaker 3: I can always dial with a player back. Yes, it's
Speaker 3: so hard to get a guy to get going. So
Speaker 3: we know that you have that.
Speaker 4: Sam.
Speaker 3: Now I just need you to use this and realize
Speaker 3: this isn't the WWF right, you can't batist the bomb
Speaker 3: a player.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. They will protect the quarterback,
Speaker 4: saying Williams soon when you get there.
Speaker 3: If you if you feel like you ain't get there
Speaker 3: enough time, that up right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Because those type of things will hurt you in the end.
Speaker 4: But I love the the I love that part.
Speaker 3: I love the fact that he's aggressive and he's physical
Speaker 3: and that that's always going to be a part of
Speaker 3: his game. All right, let's go to our first break
Speaker 3: of the show. We're gonna try this again. We tried
Speaker 3: it last week, but we weren't up live. I think
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Speaker 3: mogul hands and everything, but the Cowboys are his baby
Speaker 3: famously came out a few years ago and said, if
Speaker 3: you guys knew the amount of money that I would
Speaker 3: write in my checkbook to assure my team a super
Speaker 3: Bowl victory, it would be embarrassing. And year in the
Speaker 3: year out, we look at guys who come open on
Speaker 3: the free the free agent market, and you're going, boss,
Speaker 3: mister Jones, Jerry, general manager, owner, billionaire, there's a guy
Speaker 3: out there that, if you just write the check may
Speaker 3: be able to help us get, as you said too,
Speaker 3: out of the second round, in the second round victory.
Speaker 3: And we come to that offseason moment again. DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 3: was released by the Arizona Cardinals a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3: They tried to find a trade partner for him and
Speaker 3: they just couldn't find one, and and Nuke. He kind
Speaker 3: of gave a couple said, you know, he wants he
Speaker 3: wants a stable front office, he wants a quarterback who
Speaker 3: loves the game, and he wants a championship defense. I
Speaker 3: think we have all those here, right. Do we have
Speaker 3: a stable front office? Yeah, we have a save from
Speaker 3: we have a state we don't have. We don't Our
Speaker 3: front office is not unhinged, like there's a lot of
Speaker 3: unhinged front office.
Speaker 4: Yeah, our quarterback loves football, you would agree, Yes, quarterback
Speaker 4: does right.
Speaker 3: And and we have what can be the makings of
Speaker 3: a championship defense. We added Stefan Gilmore, Michael Parsons is there,
Speaker 3: We drafted Mazzi Smith. I mean there are pieces in
Speaker 3: this defense that can be Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 2: Let me say this, this dude has just tore a
Speaker 2: part the team he just left.
Speaker 4: Did he tear apart the team he just left though?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Or was that again a wild This is this Arizona.
Speaker 2: He's one of the team that with a stable front office.
Speaker 3: Arizona is the same team who gave their head coach
Speaker 3: an extension and then fired him a couple months.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Arizona is the same team.
Speaker 2: Stable office, a quarterback that is truly being questioned whether
Speaker 2: he loves to get.
Speaker 3: This is the front office put a clause in a
Speaker 3: contract to their star quarterback when they gave him one
Speaker 3: hundred and what did they give him one hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty million dollars guaranteed? And they said you high to
Speaker 3: study a certain amount of hours a week. And then
Speaker 3: they retracted that statement because it kind of got in
Speaker 3: the media and all that kind of stuff, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, he leaked into the media, the quarterback. And
Speaker 2: then whenever you get a great player, you know they
Speaker 2: has they've got some nice defensive pieces. I'm saying in
Speaker 2: my mind, when I first heard that this young man,
Speaker 2: and I know, we supposed to be talking cowboys, when
Speaker 2: I first heard that this young man I'm talking about
Speaker 2: the quarterback was not who you would want him to be,
Speaker 2: and it and it keeps popping up the same way.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have nothing against this kid. I seen
Speaker 2: this kid win his first high school game and saw
Speaker 2: him go undefeated, seeing him went to Texas Tech, transferred
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma and had an outstanding career. And that's when
Speaker 2: it first leaked that this kid was not a team friendly.
Speaker 2: And then he goes sit in the NFL in still
Speaker 2: when I hear fitz Jar say, not nothing really bad,
Speaker 2: but this guy's not team friendly. And now it is again.
Speaker 2: You make your living as a quarterback not handing it off.
Speaker 2: You make your living as a quarterback throwing it. This
Speaker 2: is the second great receiver that is left there. Now
Speaker 2: we can go ahead.
Speaker 3: Wow, so the Cardinals, this isn't a post June one cut.
Speaker 3: This is a flat out yes we taking it. We
Speaker 3: right on the chin, right, And so he's he's old.
Speaker 3: Let me see you here twenty seven twenty seven million dollars,
Speaker 3: twenty seven million dollars that he's old from the Cardinals.
Speaker 3: Now this is this is this can be a little
Speaker 3: bit of a double dipping situation because the Cardinals have
Speaker 3: to pay him what they owe him.
Speaker 4: That's right. So I don't know what DeAndre Hopkins thinking is.
Speaker 3: I don't and I don't if he's not a DFW
Speaker 3: residence resident. He spends a lot of time here saying
Speaker 3: he was. You know, he's been, He's been recorded training
Speaker 3: with dads a lot. He spends a lot of time.
Speaker 3: He recently was just starting the other day in DFW.
Speaker 3: A fan got a picture with him in DFW. So
Speaker 3: he spends a lot of time in this area. Yes,
Speaker 3: Jerry is the ultimate salesman, the ultimate salesman.
Speaker 2: Right right.
Speaker 3: And it can give you things outside of football that
Speaker 3: many other ownerships can't. Just the ability to know how
Speaker 3: to make money in a business. If I'm Jerry, if
Speaker 3: I'm mister Jones, I come to DeAndre and I go listen.
Speaker 3: We know what Arizona already owes you. You're getting that. Okay, Now,
Speaker 3: maybe we can't give you what we're what the Ravens
Speaker 3: gave because I think O'Nell Beckham set kind of the
Speaker 3: market of what the older free agent see who was
Speaker 3: gonna get. Maybe we can't give you what Baltimore gave
Speaker 3: Odell Beckham. What we can give you is stable front office,
Speaker 3: a quarterback who is in love with football, who is
Speaker 3: a great leader, who is someone who you want to
Speaker 3: associate yourself with, and you have pieces on that defense
Speaker 3: that can make this a championship defense.
Speaker 4: We've seen this.
Speaker 3: Defense for that portion of the year when Dak was
Speaker 3: out be an all time defense at all time defense
Speaker 3: for those five or six games, and you try to
Speaker 3: work out and then you go, hey, this is the
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. So whatever off season ventures that you may
Speaker 3: have in business wise, I can.
Speaker 4: Help your son. I can enhance I can enhance that son.
Speaker 3: So while we may not be able to give you
Speaker 3: the fifteen sixteen million dollars, maybe we can give you somewhere.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe we can make an incentive Layton, maybe
Speaker 3: get you up to that point. If we get to
Speaker 3: where we need to get to But what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do for you, what this fan base is gonna do
Speaker 3: for you, This can't be done anywhere else. Is that
Speaker 3: enough for Jerry for Is that enough for DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 3: to say, you know what, mister Jones, I'll be a
Speaker 3: Huckleberry brother. I'll come along, I'll come alongside you. I'll
Speaker 3: come alongside you with with Ceedee Lamb, with with Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 3: with Michael Gallup, and I can be that other guy
Speaker 3: because and that's another option. You look up and you go,
Speaker 3: wait a second. Teams can't lock in on me anymore.
Speaker 3: If I come to the Dallas Cowboys, I'm looking there.
Speaker 3: There's a rising star in Ceedee Lamb, Right, there's Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 3: who's a gruse vet.
Speaker 4: There's a young guy Rchael Gollam.
Speaker 3: If he gets back to where he gets back to that,
Speaker 3: you mean to tell me how I can be out
Speaker 3: here a lot of times in single coverage that that's
Speaker 3: pretty enticing, that's pretty enticing. But does Jerry get to
Speaker 3: the point where it comes out to that check book
Speaker 3: of maximizing it, like don't insult him, Jerry, Like, don't
Speaker 3: don't give him a number. That's insulting. Give him a
Speaker 3: number that says we can't be that, but we could
Speaker 3: be this, and here with this comes along.
Speaker 5: Wow man.
Speaker 9: But Hopkins was projected, he was supposed to make fifteen
Speaker 9: point five million this year. He's probably not gonna get
Speaker 9: that in free agency, you know.
Speaker 3: At this point, right, And that's what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 3: don't insult him, don't don't don't say six. Don't say six.
Speaker 3: Don't say six. That's insulting to them, right, say ten.
Speaker 4: Say eleven.
Speaker 9: And also the twenty two million you're talking about, it's
Speaker 9: a dead cap hit.
Speaker 4: He's already been paid that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, not getting paid by.
Speaker 9: Make sure there's zero cast this year from Arizona going
Speaker 9: to him.
Speaker 2: So the thing is, I believe this fellas. We just
Speaker 2: went to Walt Disney World and you can get into
Speaker 2: fantasy Land, which I thought Odell Beckham was that was
Speaker 2: fantasy Land, or you can go to Adventureland and you
Speaker 2: can you can really see some of these things happening.
Speaker 2: I don't know how mister Jones do he really since
Speaker 2: he's made that statement years ago. But when he came,
Speaker 2: when he became free, I said to myself, could see
Speaker 2: thee Lamb staying this dude being in the room. That's
Speaker 2: the first thing I thought, because I know Brandon Cooks
Speaker 2: has played with great receivers before. And I'm saying, in
Speaker 2: my mind, boy, CD, can you just put it to
Speaker 2: the side for a year. It lets you, lets see
Speaker 2: what a real do, see what a beast could do.
Speaker 2: And I just couldn't make myself believe that Ceee Lamb
Speaker 2: could do that. Do you think he could do that?
Speaker 4: That's a great question. Because I'm with you, that's a
Speaker 4: great question.
Speaker 2: I text Isaiah, I said, Isaiah, they was talking about
Speaker 2: bringing the receiver. I say, what about this guy that's
Speaker 2: out there? Well, that's too much. Stop. I'm thinking the
Speaker 2: same thing you thinking. Mister Jones said, that's the piece.
Speaker 2: We got a young run stopper. We got an old
Speaker 2: grizzle run stopper. We got all these Maseratis over there.
Speaker 2: On this defense, we got Dan in this second third year.
Speaker 2: This thing is ready to explode. On defense, all we
Speaker 2: got to do is get a compliment. On the offense,
Speaker 2: we got high flying, we got speed all over the place,
Speaker 2: we got power offensive line. Just stay glued together. Man,
Speaker 2: This dude here, I see this dude catch balls. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And that's what we didn't have last year, is that
Speaker 2: hardball catcher, that fifty to fifty ball catcher. We did
Speaker 2: not have that guy. This dude would do it one handed,
Speaker 2: two handed, behind the back with Jess.
Speaker 4: That's a great question.
Speaker 3: And I would like to believe in my heart of
Speaker 3: hearts that when it comes to Seede Lamb, that he realizes,
Speaker 3: or he truly realizes, that this is my football team
Speaker 3: from a wide receiver perspective, that I don the eighty
Speaker 3: eighth's that I'm next in line, that I've been here,
Speaker 3: I've showed the necessary progression that you want to see
Speaker 3: from a guy from his rookie year to now, and
Speaker 3: that whoever comes in here will never be above me,
Speaker 3: will be equal to or less than me, but will
Speaker 3: help this team get to the next level.
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 3: I think he's mature enough for that. I think Seedy
Speaker 3: Lamb is mature enough for that. I think the conversations
Speaker 3: that he and Dak would have would be listen, you
Speaker 3: still my guy, but he's gonna help you out as well.
Speaker 4: Because they can't double all of y'all. They can't double
Speaker 4: all of y'all.
Speaker 3: They can't figure out a plan that's gonna be able
Speaker 3: to stop all of y'all. It's like the it's like
Speaker 3: the Warriors when all the shooters are hitting. There's no
Speaker 3: defense that's gonna be able to stop. And everybody's on
Speaker 3: on their p's and q's.
Speaker 2: The thing is, and uh, your offense. A coordinator knows
Speaker 2: how to use all of this. Mike McCarthy knows how
Speaker 2: to use all of this.
Speaker 3: That's a great segment. Hold that thought right there, that's
Speaker 3: a great segue. We're gonna go to our final break
Speaker 3: of the show. We're gonna take your calls eight AA
Speaker 3: eight five five two two nine seven A A A
Speaker 3: eight five five two two nine seven The topic of
Speaker 3: discussion that we're taking calls on.
Speaker 4: You just said it.
Speaker 3: I already had on the list. See how we worked
Speaker 3: together like this, Mike McCarthy is thank you. Mike McCarthy
Speaker 3: is now resuming the play calling duties. He hasn't called
Speaker 3: play since he left Green Bay. He had that time
Speaker 3: where he was out of the league, came back in.
Speaker 3: Kella Moore is a play caller. How long will it
Speaker 3: take for Mike McCarthy to get back into that play
Speaker 3: calling groove. Will it cost the Cowboys games?
Speaker 4: Will he not?
Speaker 3: No understand how to kind of get guys going in
Speaker 3: the football games. We'll talk about that and we'll hear
Speaker 3: from the fans A A A A five five, two two,
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to hanging with the boys. We are in
Speaker 3: the off season. Addition, as we get closer and closer
Speaker 3: and closer and closer, football is in the air. Training camp.
Speaker 3: It's on the horizon. I can see it.
Speaker 4: School is out.
Speaker 3: That means we get closer to training camp. But we're
Speaker 3: taking your phone calls A A A A five five
Speaker 3: two two nine seven eight eight eight eight five five
Speaker 3: two two nine seven. Nate alluded to it in our
Speaker 3: live segment that this coaching staff, Mike McCarthy, who's now
Speaker 3: the full time play caller, he will be able if
Speaker 3: you added a guy like DeAndre Hopkins to this roster,
Speaker 3: he would be able to conf figure it where CD
Speaker 3: still ate and and Brandon Cooks ate and Hopkins ate
Speaker 3: and everybody was able to eat on this the term
Speaker 3: there's enough footballs to go around, and Mike McCarthy will
Speaker 3: be the guy that would be heading that chip and
Speaker 3: My question to the fans and my question to the
Speaker 3: callers is with Mike McCarthy not having called plays since
Speaker 3: I forget the date, just I'm literally just want a
Speaker 3: blank in my head since he was the head coach
Speaker 3: at Green Bay. Now getting back into that saddle, right
Speaker 3: because we've people question Mike McCarthy. People at time was like, man,
Speaker 3: what a terrible game manager with a terrible you know,
Speaker 3: in game person. Because sometimes, and I believe that sometimes
Speaker 3: when you do something so long and you change up,
Speaker 3: I think sometimes he just he loses the groove of
Speaker 3: the game. But when you're locked in as a play caller,
Speaker 3: you understand every scenario because that's how you call plays. Well,
Speaker 3: now he's back, he's back at calling plays. But is
Speaker 3: there you know when you say it's just like riding
Speaker 3: a bike, but when you learn how to ride a bike,
Speaker 3: you fall, You fall a couple of times. Will this
Speaker 3: cost the Cowboys or will he just say, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm the groove of the thing is jes all he
Speaker 2: has to do. And I learned this from Coach Johnson.
Speaker 2: I learned this from from you have to have that
Speaker 2: guy on your staff. And he was knocked a liver
Speaker 2: it in Green Bay for that time management. You go
Speaker 2: out and you get your time management guy. That's gonna
Speaker 2: come in your ear. You know the great parcels he
Speaker 2: kept him one. You know, Coach, this is what we
Speaker 2: talked about. This is your options. Give him options. This
Speaker 2: a coach possible time out here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This is where we're at any game because he gets
Speaker 2: into a rhythm and doing what he's doing, so he
Speaker 2: can a lot of those things. I think you can
Speaker 2: remedy with the right guy who's with him the play
Speaker 2: who saying, Hey, Okay, I'm a coach. I'm not a coach,
Speaker 2: but I'm the time guy, right, I got you, and
Speaker 2: so coach, I think, coach, it'll take coach during the preseason.
Speaker 2: I think just do it during the preseason and he'll
Speaker 2: be all right.
Speaker 3: And nobody have more coaches than the coach staff than
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys they got you got forty seven of them,
Speaker 3: all right, Chris?
Speaker 4: We got anybody on the phone lines, Yes we do.
Speaker 9: We have Mike and Newton, Iowa.
Speaker 4: Mike and Newton, Iowa. What's up? Brother? What was going on? Man?
Speaker 4: Do you think the question?
Speaker 10: Everything? I like what I see on offense and defense,
Speaker 10: and Mike McCartney's doing a really good job. I have
Speaker 10: to give these guys an a plus, really a plus.
Speaker 10: Especially you got a good running back that's an ankle breaker,
Speaker 10: and you got Turpin who's an ankle breaker. Are they
Speaker 10: going to put him on offense more? Because these guys
Speaker 10: are gonna be dangerous. I see, I see some good
Speaker 10: things here. I mean, is going to be on offensive
Speaker 10: more offense? That's my question because the guys, these guys
Speaker 10: are dangerous. I can see it, man, I can see it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Thank you, man, We appreciate the call all the way
Speaker 3: from Newton, Iowa. Will Turpin be more involved? Thanks for
Speaker 3: no answering our question, But will Turpin be more involved?
Speaker 2: By eighteen? He came in, but he came in. He
Speaker 2: told us that Mike McCarthy is gonna be all right,
Speaker 2: and I just think he will. Man, this is what
Speaker 2: I this is what I saw.
Speaker 4: This is the freaking mic that I've been waiting for. Right,
Speaker 4: this is the freaking mic.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there will come a point in
Speaker 3: time and this is I know this sounds crazy, but
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to make a decision because when you
Speaker 3: look at what they have in Deuce Van and they
Speaker 3: look what they have in Cavante Turpin, it's not enough
Speaker 3: room on his roster on game day for two really
Speaker 3: small guys.
Speaker 4: So who is a guy that you feel can give you.
Speaker 3: The best mismatch at that size because you already say
Speaker 3: it to yourself, Okay, I got City Lamb, who's my
Speaker 3: do it all guy? I got Brandon Cooks, who is
Speaker 3: my down the field guy. I got Michael Gallup, who
Speaker 3: can be my fifty to fifty guy. I don't know
Speaker 3: if they're gonna add anyone else, So what is my
Speaker 3: use offensively for.
Speaker 4: Turpin?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Specialty plays? But that kind of gets almost played a
Speaker 3: little bit because every time you add, every time you
Speaker 3: put a guy like Turpin on the field and you
Speaker 3: don't use him, it's kind of almost like a wasted
Speaker 3: rep a little bit.
Speaker 4: But then you when you look at.
Speaker 3: A guy like Deuce Vaughn, you go, if I can
Speaker 3: get Deuce Vaughn in space against a linebacker or safety
Speaker 3: or nickel, we might have something. So it's gonna be
Speaker 3: That's gonna be one of the challenges for Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 3: which one of the smaller guys, do you feel gives
Speaker 3: you the best mismatch when it comes to the game
Speaker 3: planning on game day usage?
Speaker 4: Because I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's enough room and enough plays to
Speaker 3: insert both of these guys into the mix.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. Away from sixty five to
Speaker 2: seventy players a game and all that said last year,
Speaker 2: you mean to me you can't find five plays for
Speaker 2: turping and uh Jess sweeps. I'm talking about quick screens.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, like I say, they use them in
Speaker 2: multiple ways.
Speaker 4: But see here's my TCU.
Speaker 3: But see here's my thing. They here's my thing. Do
Speaker 3: I want to throw a bubble screen to Turpin? Or
Speaker 3: do I want to throw a bubble screen at Brandon
Speaker 3: Cook's or Cee the Lamp?
Speaker 2: I thought you did? Look guy?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just think this here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: He stands back there on punts and he let you
Speaker 2: get this close to him and he fake you out. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's that's a covered corner. So you throw me the
Speaker 2: ball and you spending right there. I'm putting my money
Speaker 2: on him because I seen him do it on punt returns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also see him in open space running to
Speaker 3: a guy and get tackled in a playoff game.
Speaker 2: Brou So, I just I think, I think is eighteen
Speaker 2: thousand dollars of football. He had an off season this year.
Speaker 2: He understands the game has slowed down for him. He knows,
Speaker 2: but he can't. The thing that gets me is, as
Speaker 2: much as I love Deuce Vun, I know what this
Speaker 2: kid turfing is and everybody want to.
Speaker 3: We know, ye offensively, we know what he has specialty.
Speaker 3: There's a difference. Name, there is a difference. There's a difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a difference.
Speaker 4: It's a difference.
Speaker 2: They're coming up those guys. That's something that's that's cornerbacks
Speaker 2: and safetiest. They ain't coming up with the same viciousness
Speaker 2: these dudes coming down to field. We had to knock
Speaker 2: your head off of your head part return. Yeah, there
Speaker 2: is a difference. The bottom line is this kid turping
Speaker 2: can do more. Okay right now, okay, because he the
Speaker 2: game has slowed down for him, Deuce is gonna have
Speaker 2: to get a jested. Is they gonna give him enough
Speaker 2: reps in training camp? See, this is what we running
Speaker 2: around out here in our shorts.
Speaker 4: And that's a good good.
Speaker 2: You run around here in your shorts and you're looking
Speaker 2: quick and you're looking good. But what happened one of
Speaker 2: them hamhocks? When when Big Hankins wrapped that thing around
Speaker 2: your neck? Is you gonn? Is you going backwards? Is
Speaker 2: your helmet coming off? But I promise you turping is ready.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm with you. I'm with your mother.
Speaker 2: I'm not fighting, going with the nome. Okay, I'm going
Speaker 2: with the nome.
Speaker 4: I'm fighting your brother. I'm not fighting Chris. We got
Speaker 4: at the collar.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we have got Sam in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Sam in the atl Show. They just got off the line.
Speaker 2: Come on, that was Sam. That's your boy, that's Sam Williams. Sam, Like,
Speaker 2: y'all put me on quick enough?
Speaker 9: Come mom?
Speaker 4: After that? All right, well that don't do it. Then
Speaker 4: we'll get out of here.
Speaker 2: Let me say this real quick, like, don't you underest
Speaker 2: to me. I'm not turfing, man.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 3: But you said in training camp right, where is turping
Speaker 3: gonna get the reps unless someone gets hurt.
Speaker 2: If we don't sign Hopkins, he can get his.
Speaker 4: Rep where because see he gonna get his right. Cook's
Speaker 4: gonna get his right.
Speaker 3: They're gonna get They're gonna not gonna every day, They're
Speaker 3: not gonna practice the every gonna push Michael Gallup to
Speaker 3: get back to to some form of his Jaalen Tolbert
Speaker 3: is still a third round pick that they're not gonna
Speaker 3: just let fall by the wayside. They're gonna try to
Speaker 3: get value over the guy that they drafted in the
Speaker 3: third round, Jalen Smith.
Speaker 4: Come after that. Don't forget the training camp Darling.
Speaker 2: They think Mike MacArthur got all that time.
Speaker 4: Don't forget training camp.
Speaker 3: Darling that they had last year in Houston. He's still
Speaker 3: on this roster.
Speaker 2: You think Macarthur're gonna have all this free time?
Speaker 3: Okay, So all I'm saying is is that there's a
Speaker 3: better chance that Duce gets reps at running back in
Speaker 3: the equation with if anybody gonna rest, they're gonna rest
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard. So now you got Malik Davis, Ronald Jones,
Speaker 3: and Deuce. The list of the line to get reps
Speaker 3: is a lot shorter in the running back room than
Speaker 3: it is in the wide receiver room.
Speaker 4: Don't forget about Rico and Rico.
Speaker 2: You just got to extend it bout one.
Speaker 4: And then you want you want to add, send me
Speaker 4: to the next.
Speaker 5: Running back.
Speaker 3: If the line to the getting some playing time is there,
Speaker 3: the line is shorter in the running back room than this.
Speaker 2: All I'm trying to share with you is I'm going
Speaker 2: with the known versus the unknown, and you can't and
Speaker 2: Coach McCarthy, I don't know if he has another year
Speaker 2: in his contract, but this is it. So you're gonna
Speaker 2: be dasman around with something you don't know. It's cool with, you.
Speaker 3: Know, That's why they'll get more reps in training camp.
Speaker 3: All right, that'll do it for us today, Kurt. I
Speaker 3: hope you recover from that.
Speaker 2: You can take a shot.
Speaker 4: Man tweet that, Kurt. Make sure he's okay today, would
Speaker 4: you please?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can get a chef.
Speaker 4: The oh, the fans.
Speaker 3: I'm off Twitter for a little while, so you text
Speaker 3: them and tweet them. Fans tweet Kurt he went to
Speaker 3: see the doctor. Twenty four hours of that thing over
Speaker 3: the weekend took one too many, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: he had some fireworks happening at his crib. But we
Speaker 3: thank you all for joining us again. For Chris in
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