WEBVTT - Tajh Boyd and The QB Learning Curve 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.120 Welcome to the solid verbal. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:05.600 Im that for me. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.719 I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:10.639 I want to be happy. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.440 You want to be happy for Dake Ado State? Is 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:15.239 that woo whoo? And no? 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:20.919 Dan and Ty, welcome back to the solid verbal. Boys 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.479 and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand. Joining me is 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.400 always over there in New York City. My man Dan Ruvenstein, Sir, 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:27.840 how are you? 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:28.840 Scheme? 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:34.120 Theme, scheme deme steam theme. It rolls on, Dan, it does. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.680 I'm good. I'm very excited for this show. I've long 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.720 admired our guest, both in terms of his ability on 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.959 the football field and as a speaker. Taj Boyd is 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.839 and I mean his college career started out as heartbreak 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.479 for me because I was positive he was going to 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.120 go to Oregon, which is insane for somebody from like 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.280 the tidewater region of Virginia. Yeah, that's right, Just be 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.600 confident that they go to Eugene. But I was an 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:03.120 enormous fan of watching at Clemson during the I guess 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.200 the birth of this dominant Tiger offense with Chad Morris 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.640 and subsequently with the coordinators there. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.839 Now, and this is not a true scheme theme show 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.920 in the same way that we've done these shows over 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:16.840 the last couple of weeks. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.840 This is much more human. Tie a human discussion. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.640 Hey, high profile quarterback, What's it like to try and 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.240 apply all the x's and o's that we heard from 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.800 Seth Latrell and Joe moorehead? What's it like to communicate 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.399 in the manner that we heard Chris Brown elaborate on 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.200 a week ago? 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We are 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:31.600 also here at the Verbal huge huge fans of our 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.000 next guest. He is a gentleman by the name of 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:34.640 Toaj Boyd. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.960 So a terrific career at Clemson, including All ACC ACC 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.080 Player of the Year. He's an All American his final 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.120 game and I think we watched this together tie. Yeah, 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.719 that's right, the Orange Bowl against Ohio State in twenty 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.800 fourteen win over Braxton Miller in Ohio State. When I 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.039 last interviewed him, he says, after he was drafted, he 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.320 told me he didn't trust dolphins, the animal, not the team. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.960 Paes and gentlemen, Taj Boyd, Hey you doing well? 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.440 So man, appreciate you guys having me, don't Will you 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:07.960 know about to go hit the gym real quick? 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.600 What's what's today's focus at the gym? Is it leg day? 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:12.719 We're working on shoulders? Where are we hitting? 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:13.159 Well? 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.360 You know, I hit legs yesterday. I think a spin 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:19.320 class is more than just get cardio and and so 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.000 I'm trying to straight up a little bit. I'm hoping 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.840 that it helps my golf game, but I don't think 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.320 that's the that's the cost. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:25.320 For my problems out there. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:32.160 So enough so, so, what. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.599 We're talking about this week, and this is sort of 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.080 a broader theme for the month, but also for what 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.560 we're going to talk about today is sort of the 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.279 the learning and application process of being a quarterback. And 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.840 you started for three years, you were at Clemson for 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.360 four years. You had huge amounts of success. I think 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.479 you only won double digit games every year. So it 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.320 feels like, even though you are consistently very good, you 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.880 would have I think some interesting insight into this. So 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.000 I guess let's start from the beginning. You're you're a 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.560 star high school player in a very competitive area. How 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:10.120 are your habits then, in terms of studying, executing a playbook? 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.120 Do you feel like these habits helped or hurt you 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:14.080 coming into Clemson? 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:19.080 Well, all right, so where I'm from in Virginia, there's 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.120 been disc pliniful amount of athletes to come out of there. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:23.560 So e J. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.560 May was my We went to middle school together. And 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.520 for those of you who do know EJ. May Or, 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.960 he's a quarterback for the Oklahoias right now. Tyrod Taylor 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:36.640 is my rival in high school. The area's just flooded 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.039 with talent. Man Percy Harvor we played liter League in. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:40.440 High school together. In my first year. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.560 I used to go watch the Adela Hall when he 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.960 was at Deep Creek High School. Uh, seeing Marcut's big 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.120 play safety, punter, and quarterback. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.159 As far as. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:58.279 Me in the quarterback realm, my dad man was really 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:02.240 the one who who gave me an opportunity and instilled 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.000 in me that I could do that. So I didn't 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:06.920 really have any like some of these kids now are 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.279 working with these top grade quarterback coaches. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:10.120 I didn't have any of that. 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.160 It was my dad built a handmade target. I never 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.800 had any real friends out there. 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:18.400 My friend with the football, and we. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:22.320 Just put a dumb amount of hours to perfect that craft. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.360 Which is why I was disappointed and my NFL career 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:27.880 turned out because I know the amount of work I 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.760 put it then. But went to high school and then 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.320 went to Phoenus. There, I was forty three and two 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.200 of the starter won two state championships, lost in the 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.520 state simmes my junior year. Didn't really think about a lot, though, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.240 so I used to go to all these different circuits. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:46.320 So Maggie Camp's Elite eleven Reasons ended up getting to 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.680 the finals of the Elite eleven in that class consisted 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:55.160 of AJ McCarn Aaron Murray, Gemo Smith, Matt Barkley. It 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.600 was a pretty solid group of guys, but that was 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.800 where I knew I could compete with the other top 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.120 go back from the country, so he just gave me 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.440 that booster a confidence. Tore my atm my senior year, 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.800 third Game of the Year, played. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.320 Twelve games of the touring ACL. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.240 Got a last late invite to the Army Old American Game, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:12.120 ended up winning. 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:12.520 MVP of that. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.080 So in my high school career was pretty prolific. But 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.480 when I went when I decided to commit to Clempson, 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.400 Crimpson wasn't at the time of spread office. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.080 I didn't want to play in the spread offense. I 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.200 wanted an opportunity to play in the NFL. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.760 So at the time, I thought the only way to 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.280 do that was to play in a pro style office. Hence, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:33.800 while I didn't go to West Virginia, that was the 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:38.360 team I originally committed to, and I even got rived 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:43.679 with to change my classification. So originally I was a 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.840 dual threat and I was like, look, I don't want 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.240 to be labeled as that. I want to be labeled 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.560 as a pro stole quarterback. I dropped back every play 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.439 in the high school, not in the shotgun, so I 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.520 don't know why I'm labeled as that, But uh, kind 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.720 of how to deal with my first year OC got 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:04.320 fired the first couple of years, and then they brought 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.480 in chat Morse, who at the time it just came 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.600 from Tulsa a couple of years in high school. So 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.640 interesting dynamic there, But yeah, I kind of went all 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:14.440 atle rate right there. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.040 But yeah, let's go what you guys got. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.720 So what what was it like in terms of do 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.599 you feel like you were a good studier? Do you 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.200 feel like, you know, going from high school to college. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.600 Obviously you committed to I think was Billy Napier your 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.679 freshman year offense of course, Furter. Do you feel like 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.440 you had good studying habits? Do you feel like you 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.400 had a good command of the playbook? Do you feel 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.840 like you took things seriously in terms of your responsibilities 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.280 in learning what was expected of you from a learning 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.640 the offense perspective. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.480 Yeah, but I never felt like I had the formal 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:50.920 training as far as understanding schemes and things of that nature. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.840 I mean, in high school we pretty much broke it 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.560 down and choose out of the fields. So you were 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.360 looking at your initial shale, but it was either one 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.240 high or too high, and that's pretty much how based 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.440 all of my concepts off of so it's too high, 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:08.760 you know, stand away from the outside of verticals, which 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.560 is one high. You know, I'm taking those shots. So 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.720 that's pretty much how we broke it down the hospital. 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.640 But everything we did was also play action. So I mean, 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:17.640 here's times when I literally through the ball eight times 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.080 a game. So to get the clubs in the system 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.959 was very similar. So I didn't necessarily have a hard 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.680 time as far as picking up the system. Where I 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.679 like that was understanding the speed of the guys I'm 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.960 playing against and just figuring out that sense of urgency 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:39.200 out there, you know, for playing under Napier Uh in 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.800 that traditional system, you know, I felt like that that converted. 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.440 It just wasn't as exciting as that Sprint office. So 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.439 when Chad came in, it was such a transition because 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.319 at that point, again I had never I had never 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:53.120 played any shotgame. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.319 Everything I did was under center right, So. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.400 I remember trying to get a shot a shotgun snap, 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.560 and Mores having to teach me every thing over and 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.880 over and over, and he essentially told me that spring like, look, 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.040 if you can't figure it out, you know, I'm gonna 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.160 find somebody that will. And This is heading into my 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:09.200 sophomore seet. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:14.000 Tom, So let's talk about that in particular, because obviously, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.280 as you've described, the jump from high school to college 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:22.360 is pretty significant, not just in terms of the style 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.280 and the schemes and the speed of the game itself, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.439 but the playbook is a lot more sophisticated. How long 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.600 does it take you to see on the field, to 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.480 be confident on the field with what you're essentially trying 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.560 to absorb on paper, Well. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:39.880 That's the thing it depends on. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.200 Because now you break it down and we classify into 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:47.280 two types of learners. Some guys are can take mental 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.960 resks and just pick up on it. I was never 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.480 one of those guys. Unfortunately, I had to physically do 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.640 it out there for me to understand it, for me 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:58.160 to make sense. So I think that's where you get 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.479 when you get some of these guys taking Bruce Gradkowski 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.800 or Charlie Whitehurst. So some of these guys that have 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.160 floated around the league for ten fifteen years, they never 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.280 have to actually take the rep to understand what's going 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.120 on and to really see it for what it is, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.559 where some guys, you know, just have to do it 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.880 in order to really make it make sense out there 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.559 for him on the field. So you know, from that aspect, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.560 I mean that's just kind of where I was right, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.400 and I mean I needed to throw that route and 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.640 I needed to throw a couple of interceptions for me 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.520 to understand why that play doesn't work or what I 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:36.880 need to see out there on that field. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:42.120 Is there such a thing as studying for the speed 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.040 of the game, because it's something you always hear, how 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.760 the speed as you go from level to level is 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.200 something that you need to adjust to. Can you study 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.400 for that at all? Or is it truly just a 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.000 matter of you need to go out there and take 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.199 the reps before you can get a little bit more 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:58.920 confident with it. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.920 Yeah, you can't study steed. I mean like throwing a 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.880 banggate in that first window, right, Yeah, a bandgate is 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.840 a seven step skinny post and you can look at it, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.680 but if you never rep it, you don't understand that 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.000 when your foot hits that fifth step, that ball there's 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.480 no time for anything else. There's no time for a hitch, 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.760 there's no time to drop the ball. I mean, you 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.480 got to fire cluse that fits step hits the ground. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.640 But you can't really see that on film or watch 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.120 it on the sideline. You have to get out there 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:32.480 and really get a feel for it and the timing 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.959 with it to while timming is so important as well, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.520 because on paper it looks good. On the field, it 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.800 might look totally different site looking at the defense. When 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.320 I was with the Jets, I mean restaurants. His damn 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.640 defense is so complex. I would understand it on paper 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.280 and look at it on film. Then I would get 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.080 out there and it would look like but I was 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.400 looking at forty defenders out there. They were irrotating so 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.120 many places and moving all over the place that you 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.360 really needed to see in order to really grasp it. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.000 And maybe that was just me. I just feel like that. 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.240 Happens a lot for a lot of guys. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.320 The thing about college and pros though, is that first off, 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.199 you select the college you go to. You get a 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.439 chance to make that decision. The pros all words like 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.320 that they select you for what reasons you don't never 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.480 really know, and they might have an idea of what's 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:24.760 going to happen before you can get there. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.160 You have no control over that. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.680 Just out of curiosity, can you give us an example 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.240 of how things might vary from college to the NFL 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:34.760 from coach to coach. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.960 Martin Morrowlegg is an extension of Bill Walsh in the original. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.320 West Coast offense. There's still a few of those guys 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:43.120 left in the NFL. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.359 Is a pedigree where they're. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.000 Built and taught a certain way. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.960 And tree right Florida nine at Clemson was a three 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:58.120 by one set three receiver to the right wide receiver 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.200 to the left, and it was a it was the 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.720 same concept my my individual player, I've isolated to the 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:10.520 left runs a shallow cross prey by one trade right 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:14.120 Florida and same play with the New York Jets and 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.520 the Martin morning leg would shift a half back from 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.960 right open two Jets scat slam all though specially eagle 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.320 shallow cross, the exact same player. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.800 And you were running it with tempo at Clemson right. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.800 And I'm running it in the damn huddle. Yeah, But 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.720 in the Jets, I'm running it with Nick Nagle screamers, 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.240 spit the damn playout, rookie. And now I'm almost pissing 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.240 down my pants because I had to get to play 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.800 from Marty twelve times, you know, for me to really 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:39.720 be able to recite it. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:41.280 I'm sitting there and. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.320 Now I finally get to play down and spit it 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.480 out in the huddle. But then I watched a lot 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.240 of screaming and I don't forgot what I damn called, 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.320 you know, And I remember sitting there like my goodness, 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.920 because at that point, I mean, it's either you understand 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:55.520 it or you don't. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.200 They don't. Really, they're not in the business to be 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.600 your frame or really your coach. It's a business. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.120 True is you'll find a few coaches out there where 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.840 they're going to take that time and really, you know, 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.200 spool feeds you. But it all depends on where you're 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.440 drafted at, you know, first second round. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.040 Is they get that treatment course through seventh. I mean, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.600 you're kind of on your own out there, you know, 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.640 so kind of one of those deals too. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:23.800 But man, we're getting forty fifty plays a day install 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.240 and I'm getting two through reps of practice. So not 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.960 only am I not seen it, I'm seeing it on 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.880 the sideline, but I'm not really doing it physically right. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.400 And I'm still trying to digest this first first set 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.120 of plays before I get to the next day install. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:42.640 And some of them were the same places but just 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:48.000 different terminology, different verbiage sets for different the alignments are different, 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.320 so you know, you really just it was tough for 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:52.120 me personally. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.000 So when you're at Clemson just to get back to terminology, 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.680 did you find that that way of learning with a 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.320 more simplified way of calling plays, especially because you had 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.840 to call them quickly. You weren't in huddles like you 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.840 would have been there in the NFL, for sure, So 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.120 that simplified way of play calls and perhaps a simplified 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.879 passing and route tree. Do you think that was advantageous 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.360 to you as you're, you know, nineteen twenty years old 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.440 to pick it up relatively quickly and move forward with confidence. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.520 I think from a college standpoint, yes, because we played 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.960 at such a high tempo that you got to make 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.760 quick decisions. So if you can pick up on a 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.639 diagnosed to defense and still get the ball off with 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.960 twenty second left on the clock, you're doing amazing. NFL 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.000 is a slower pace still, it's not a lot of temple. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.800 You'll see some floating around, but they use that whole clock, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:49.639 so it's not necessarily a huge deal to not run tempo. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.359 I mean the NFL, so for colleges advantageous for the NFL, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.399 it doesn't really matter at that point because they're not 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.280 in the business of getting two hundred snaps again like 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:01.159 some colleges are. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.080 So you pick up the offense relatively quickly in college, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.200 and you talked about needing those physical reps and live 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:12.080 action to really get comfortable. Yeah, what took the longest 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.200 to get comfortable with at Clemson? Was it sort of 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.080 recognizing and diagnosing defenses. Was it, you know, certain option 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.160 routes or whatever, you know, just the chemistry with your receivers. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.520 Was it your own timing and footwork and sort of vision. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.280 What was like what was the last step to really 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.959 master your comfort within the Clemson offense? 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.040 For me, it was the speed of it because of 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:35.760 where I played at a high school and the type 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.240 office we ran. We weren't a temple team either. You know, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.679 we took our time. Hell, we played four minute offense 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.640 the whole year, you know, long we won the game. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.680 That's kind of how we ran it. You know. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:52.040 Whereas Chad Morris's whole concept, this whole system was built 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.480 for speed. Because it's not built for speed, then it 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.480 doesn't work as effectively as would you know, we're trying 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.720 to draw defenders off side, take free shots. You know, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.920 get this, guys tired run free vertical concepts in a row. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.280 You know, it's really on the strength of how tired 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.280 of this defense and who's going to last in the 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.680 fourth quarter where some of the teams where you still 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.320 look at the Penn States, you still look at the 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:19.440 Georgia's even Oklahoma team spent like they don't necessarily run 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.399 a full on tempo, it's still slow it down some 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:25.600 That's why they get the perception of still being pro 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:27.920 style even though they may be in a shotgun as 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.320 opposed to treat tempo. And again I think that is 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:36.440 its benefits these quarterbacks in college, but in college only 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.280 to run tempo because it doesn't really matter at NFL level. 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.600 So you mentioned the installation on the on the pro 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.800 level of being you know, forty fifty plays per day 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.280 or something like that on a certain level. Yeah, when 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.600 you're in college, what was you know, you have the 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.280 job for three years, and maybe this changed over the 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:53.879