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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: Im that for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for Dake Ado State? Is

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Speaker 4: Dan and Ty, welcome back to the solid verbal. Boys

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Speaker 4: and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand. Joining me is

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Speaker 4: always over there in New York City. My man Dan Ruvenstein, Sir,

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Speaker 4: how are you?

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Speaker 2: Scheme?

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Speaker 1: Theme, scheme deme steam theme. It rolls on, Dan, it does.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm very excited for this show. I've long

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Speaker 1: admired our guest, both in terms of his ability on

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Speaker 1: the football field and as a speaker. Taj Boyd is

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Speaker 1: and I mean his college career started out as heartbreak

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Speaker 1: for me because I was positive he was going to

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Speaker 1: go to Oregon, which is insane for somebody from like

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Speaker 1: the tidewater region of Virginia. Yeah, that's right, Just be

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Speaker 1: confident that they go to Eugene. But I was an

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Speaker 1: enormous fan of watching at Clemson during the I guess

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Speaker 1: the birth of this dominant Tiger offense with Chad Morris

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Speaker 4: Now, and this is not a true scheme theme show

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Speaker 4: in the same way that we've done these shows over

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Speaker 1: This is much more human. Tie a human discussion.

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Speaker 4: Hey, high profile quarterback, What's it like to try and

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Speaker 4: next guest. He is a gentleman by the name of

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Speaker 4: Toaj Boyd.

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Speaker 1: So a terrific career at Clemson, including All ACC ACC

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year. He's an All American his final

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Speaker 1: that's right, the Orange Bowl against Ohio State in twenty

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Speaker 1: Paes and gentlemen, Taj Boyd, Hey you doing well?

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Speaker 3: So man, appreciate you guys having me, don't Will you

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Speaker 3: know about to go hit the gym real quick?

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Speaker 1: What's what's today's focus at the gym? Is it leg day?

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Speaker 1: We're working on shoulders? Where are we hitting?

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Speaker 3: You know, I hit legs yesterday. I think a spin

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to straight up a little bit. I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: We're talking about this week, and this is sort of

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Speaker 1: So what what was it like in terms of do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I never felt like I had the formal

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Speaker 3: I mean, in high school we pretty much broke it

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Speaker 3: But everything we did was also play action. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: And you were running it with tempo at Clemson right.

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Speaker 1: what plays you're comfortable with in certain situations, your favorite

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Speaker 1: plays on you know, third and fourth down or in

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Speaker 1: the red zone. Do you have input as you become

441
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Speaker 1: more experienced in college?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean we will go through and the whole

444
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Speaker 3: week will be based off of that. So Monday, so

445
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Speaker 3: you would have off. Obviously Sunday, well, Monday will be

446
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Speaker 3: your correction on film. Tuesdays it's pretty heavy prize one day.

447
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Speaker 3: It's a pretty heavy practice. Thursday is to walk through.

448
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Speaker 3: Fridays walk through in the movies at Top Corner and

449
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Speaker 3: everything else.

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Speaker 2: Game time.

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Speaker 3: So essentially what happened is that Tuesday Wednesday. Tuesday you

452
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Speaker 3: would really figure out, you know, really what happened in

453
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Speaker 3: the game, what was good, what you're gonna scrap, and

454
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Speaker 3: everything else that nature. And Wednesday is when we would

455
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Speaker 3: start kind of dumbing it back down and say, all right,

456
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Speaker 3: looks like the defense will playing against.

457
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Speaker 2: This is what you're gonna be looking at.

458
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Speaker 3: Tell me what you like in this situation or base

459
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Speaker 3: that system, and that those players based off of the

460
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Speaker 3: look that I was going to potentially get that week.

461
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Speaker 3: So I mean the coach made happen the decision, I

462
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Speaker 3: mean the other half of it. And you know, really

463
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Speaker 3: it's based off of the strength of that particular player.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love throwing the DP ball, so we

465
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Speaker 3: aim to throw ten to twelve deep balls a game,

466
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Speaker 3: and at any given time during the game I saw

467
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Speaker 3: that look, I would take off and trying to take

468
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Speaker 3: a shot.

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Speaker 2: And really what that would do was just put.

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Speaker 3: That defense in the situation where you're loosing them up

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Speaker 3: to the point where we were able to throw out

472
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Speaker 3: route so our hitches, our slants and everything else that nature.

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Speaker 2: But I did have enough input to the.

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Speaker 3: Point where I was comfortable with everything that I was running.

475
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Speaker 3: It wasn't one time that I can remember in college

476
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Speaker 3: when we called a play and I wasn't comfortable with

477
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Speaker 3: it like this, like I noticed, player's gonna die right here.

478
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Speaker 1: So what was your favorite third down play in college?

479
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Speaker 3: I love the fail concept. So I was three by

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Speaker 3: one as well outside their number. I guess, goanna call

481
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Speaker 3: it the number one outside or run a vertical the

482
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Speaker 3: number two. We're running fourteen to sixteen, r a out route.

483
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Speaker 3: Number three we're running flat. So it gives us each

484
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Speaker 3: level of depth down the field. And I was essentially

485
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Speaker 3: read that flat defender or that strong side linebacker. Most

486
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Speaker 3: of the time we ransom the field. We ran to

487
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Speaker 3: the boundary every now and then. But now I read

488
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Speaker 3: that back and I was just high low based off

489
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Speaker 3: from him. And if I caught that safety peaking a

490
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Speaker 3: little bit, you know, I would. I would test them

491
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Speaker 3: to see. Obviously, it depending on who I had out

492
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Speaker 3: there and running. If I had Sammy out there, I said, no, brain,

493
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Speaker 3: I'm taking that shot and throwing it up to Sami

494
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Speaker 3: and seeing.

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Speaker 2: If people go get it. But I love that concept.

496
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Speaker 3: On the backside, I had a deeper outroute as well

497
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Speaker 3: or come back based off of.

498
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Speaker 2: Who we were playing. If you're playing against an Xavier Road.

499
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Speaker 3: That's some damn lockdown out there, so you're not gonna

500
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Speaker 3: take that shot anyways. But you know, I love that

501
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Speaker 3: concept and I love throwing smash concept.

502
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Speaker 2: Man. I was a big hoghow kind of guy.

503
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Speaker 3: Just because I mean, easy decisions you got there, I

504
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Speaker 3: mean equipment, the decision to make it happen, and usually

505
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Speaker 3: it's eighty percent of the time become make completion out there.

506
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Speaker 3: But I mean I was a different kind of built player.

507
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Speaker 3: So I mean everybody in the house knew it was

508
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Speaker 3: gonna happen on third or four or less. Emotion, He's

509
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Speaker 3: coming on a jet, sip, I'm taking the jets sweeping,

510
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Speaker 3: I'm coming downhill.

511
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Speaker 2: So you know that's kind of the way we ran

512
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Speaker 2: our system, TODJ.

513
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Speaker 4: So you're you're at Clemson as you're getting prepared for

514
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Speaker 4: game day, your relationship between your quarterback coach, your offensive coordinator,

515
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Speaker 4: your head coach, Can you give us a sense for

516
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Speaker 4: how those dynamics come into play when you're trying to

517
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Speaker 4: put a scheme together.

518
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Speaker 3: So it was it was really big with technically towards quarterbacks,

519
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Speaker 3: to Chad Morris.

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Speaker 2: Sure, So at the particular time, I mean I spent

521
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Speaker 2: most of the time with him, and I would I

522
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Speaker 2: would even go on on.

523
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Speaker 3: That Sunday and we would watch the film together, so

524
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Speaker 3: on the Monday and Tuesday we could talk about what

525
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Speaker 3: was going to happen and what we liked and didn't

526
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Speaker 3: like during the week.

527
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Speaker 2: So, I mean I spent most.

528
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Speaker 3: Of the time games planning with him. He was very

529
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Speaker 3: common practice man in the game. He was carting crazy

530
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Speaker 3: stuff there. So you know, he would call a concept

531
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Speaker 3: and it wouldn't work and like, you know, I don't

532
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Speaker 3: know where my quarterback wait, but you're gonna have to

533
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Speaker 3: figure it out and I would have to rely on

534
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Speaker 3: my backrounds behind me. I look, you know this is

535
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

536
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Speaker 2: What are you saying? And now we get the con

537
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Speaker 2: version from those guys.

538
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Speaker 4: If Chad Morris was the guy that you spent the

539
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Speaker 4: most time with in trying to scheme, at what point

540
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Speaker 4: does the head coach come into the whole scheming realm.

541
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Speaker 3: So the best part about Coachwee is he's more of

542
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Speaker 3: a facilitator.

543
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Speaker 2: I mean he's a true head coach.

544
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Speaker 3: He has a coordinator on defense and coordinator on offense

545
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Speaker 3: left him do the job. Now, Grantett being about three

546
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Speaker 3: or four trick players that he wanted to run a game,

547
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Speaker 3: and if he didn't get it his way, you know,

548
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Speaker 3: he would throw a fit over there, but usually what

549
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Speaker 3: he called him, they would, So you know, it's a

550
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Speaker 3: lot better for his confidence over there. Man. Jack can't

551
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Speaker 3: say anything on that on that nature, but coach we

552
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Speaker 3: get in every now and then. I don't know how

553
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Speaker 3: it's working now with the dynamics over there because they

554
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Speaker 3: have co offensive coordinators. So I think coach Woe's hand,

555
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Speaker 3: isn't it a little bit more? But at the particular time,

556
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Speaker 3: it was Chazz offense and it was Ventible's defense, and

557
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Speaker 3: it just was or it was at that point.

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Speaker 1: So you're obviously, when you're at Clemson, you're responsible for

559
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Speaker 1: yourself first and foremost and having command of things. Did

560
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Speaker 1: you feel on a certain level you're the quarter back?

561
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Speaker 1: Do you feel responsible for everyone on offense? Do you

562
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Speaker 1: want to are you personally making sure you know the

563
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: offensive line knows the checks? Do you know you make

564
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Speaker 1: sure your receivers know everything you're saying, and you know,

565
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Speaker 1: are you sort of confident in everything like that, How

566
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Speaker 1: did how did you reach the point where you were

567
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Speaker 1: confident and you were communicating with everybody to make sure

568
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Speaker 1: everyone was on the same page.

569
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, that's the biggest thing is it's all

570
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: about confidence. I mean, it exudes when you're walking out

571
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Speaker 3: there in that field. So, man, I remember my first

572
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 3: game starting. We were losing at half after like two

573
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Speaker 3: interceptions have fumbled. We were playing Offord or Troy. We

574
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: were playing Troy Troy University, And I remember coming back

575
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: at halftime and I had just the Matthews looks on

576
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Speaker 3: my way in the locker room and one of the

577
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: older guys like, you gotta get your shit together over there,

578
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 3: all right.

579
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Speaker 2: So really, even if you didn't know what you were doing,

580
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Speaker 2: you had to act like.

581
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Speaker 3: You know what you were doing, just an inspire the

582
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Speaker 3: guys around it, because it makes a difference, especially when

583
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Speaker 3: you're talking about playing. Fact, sometimes you'll look and for

584
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: particular quarterbacks not in the game, it looks like that

585
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: the offense is moving a little bit slower, And a

586
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: lot of times that is the case. It's not that

587
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: the quarterback isn't moving slow, it's just that they don't

588
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: have confidence. So their second guests and everything that they're

589
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: doing as well, or she was running a little bit

590
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: more slop your oute office. The lot is taking a

591
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: play off here and there. And if your guys know

592
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: what they expect out of you and you're performing at

593
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: that level, you're always going to get the optionum out

594
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Speaker 3: of your guys.

595
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Speaker 1: So now you mentioned that you're working with younger players

596
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: now competing for jobs, and you're working with sort of

597
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: mentoring and you know, helping train quarterbacks.

598
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Speaker 3: A lot of it is just I mean just the

599
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: minute preparation. I mean just going through these exact experiences

600
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: that I had that they're going to go through. And

601
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Speaker 3: I mean they got a little bit more time than

602
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: they think they do, you know, because in college, I

603
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: mean anything can happen at that point. I mean you

604
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: look at last year in the last championship game, I

605
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: mean to it and know he was gonna play that game,

606
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: but he was ready when the number was called. And

607
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: college you give that a lot. I mean, there's always

608
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: gonna be a Drew Blest of Tom Blake Brady's story

609
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: at any given university. So God just got to be

610
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: ready to do it. And I think that's just the

611
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: nature to beat the quarterback in general. The case Kingdom

612
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: stepped up, Nick Fole stepped up. You just got to

613
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: be conslaying your abilities. But you can only do that

614
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: if you prepare it. So a man's ego is the

615
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: biggest downfall in football in sports, mainly because they want

616
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Speaker 3: to think that they know it, and they want to

617
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: say that they know it or push it off with

618
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: the shove.

619
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Speaker 2: You really know it, You really know.

620
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Speaker 3: Why you throw all hot off his corner cap blitz

621
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: right here because you know your back is supposed.

622
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Speaker 2: To be picking that up and over there.

623
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Speaker 3: You throw hot anyways, and you got a guy in

624
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Speaker 3: the middle of the field street going I don't if

625
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: you just lost the game. So the intricate details the

626
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: parts of the quarterback is what makes some guys elite

627
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: and what makes.

628
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Speaker 2: Some guys not.

629
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Speaker 1: Do you think it's more difficult now because teams are

630
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: more used to to spread concepts or do you feel

631
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: like offenses are are better prepared? You know, everything has

632
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: evolved on offense to the point where you know there's

633
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: ourpos they're you know, there are quicker ways to study

634
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: with iPads and stuff like that. Do you feel like

635
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: it is easier to play quarterback in a spread system

636
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen or is it is a little more

637
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: difficult because of what people know now.

638
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: I think that the spread offense is IOUs been more

639
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: accepted at this point maybe football, And I mean it's

640
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: not flowing down from here. I mean, well, the last

641
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: time he went to a middle school game, it's start

642
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: chang dropping back into and play actions. We haven't really

643
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Speaker 3: That's just kind.

644
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Speaker 2: Of where we're at in football.

645
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: But at some point, I mean, the whole NFL system

646
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: is going to change because the older players, who are

647
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Speaker 3: the older coaches that were once and control everything are

648
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: going to are going to face the Sean mcgays where

649
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: they grew up in this generation right here. So from

650
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: a from a skim standpoint, I mean, the offense is

651
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: always gonna have to evolve a little bit, just because

652
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: the defense is always going to become a little bit

653
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: of walking place. The first year we ran our pos

654
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: run pass tags my senior year and we had just

655
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: started right after the season after l.

656
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Speaker 2: S U.

657
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Speaker 3: My junior year, and I remember having to pick up

658
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: on that and that was a transition, you know.

659
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Speaker 2: And then I remember the Jets.

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Speaker 3: The Jets asking me about it. But hey, you know,

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Speaker 3: and clumsy. I ran this, this, and this, tell me

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Speaker 3: how it works. And I remember telling them to the

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Speaker 3: exactly how it worked, and it was like, no, no,

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Speaker 3: now we're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: It this way. And it was the same way that

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Speaker 2: I had just told.

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Speaker 3: Them, so they really wanted to just make it there.

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Speaker 3: But now, at some point, I mean, the games just

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Speaker 3: the game was gonna be college football, man, whether people

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Speaker 3: like it or not. I mean, the players don't change.

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Speaker 3: I mean we were the same guys that are playing

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Speaker 3: at that level. But you know, if the NFL could

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Speaker 3: be separate, I think that's what people would like the most.

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Speaker 3: But at some point they're going to have to accept it.

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Speaker 3: That's just a new way of football at this point.

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Speaker 1: Well, very cool. This is really insightful. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Man on the season. Let me know.

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Speaker 3: We'll get up here and chat some more. I still

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Speaker 3: don't like dlphin, but callowing me on Twitter, Instagram or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Man, appreciate it as always. Man, you're the best.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Dan Again, that is Taj Boyd, former standout quarterback

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Speaker 4: from Clemson. You know him well if you're a college

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Speaker 4: football fan. I thought a really honest conversation Dan. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: a much different kind of conversation than the ones we've

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Speaker 4: had with Seth Latrelle and Joe Moorehead and Chris Brown.

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Speaker 4: But really some insight from a first hand perspective as

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Speaker 4: to what it's like to actually be the guy in

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Speaker 4: the huddle trying to recite the verbiage, trying to run

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Speaker 4: the plays.

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Speaker 1: I had minor panic attacks when he was talking about

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Speaker 1: having to learn like a hundred plays in an hour

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Speaker 1: with that were full on sentences that sound like each

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Speaker 1: play call was an essay, you know, and you know

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Speaker 1: of the draft is coming up in what about a

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Speaker 1: month from when we're recording this. Right now, we've got four, five, six,

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Speaker 1: you know, depending on how how deep you think this

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Speaker 1: class is going into the maybe early mid second round

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Speaker 1: top guys, and so much goes into that transition. You

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Speaker 1: watch all these guys in college, whether it's Sam Darnold

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Speaker 1: or Josh Rosen or Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, and they

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Speaker 1: come out of college looking like they have mastered college defenses,

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Speaker 1: like they are a step ahead, and then they're moving

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Speaker 1: to a place where they are seventeen and a half

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Speaker 1: steps behind. So that perspective, especially coming from Taj who

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Speaker 1: succeeded to such a crazy degree at Clemson against the

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Speaker 1: highest level of competition, and also Ty, I went back

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Speaker 1: and watched some Taj Boyd clips. What an amazing career,

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Speaker 1: like what like a true like his builds. First of all,

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Speaker 1: he you know, he's solidly built but with a great

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Speaker 1: arm and was asked to run a ton sort of.

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Speaker 1: I'm just the most most modern of quarterbacks. And to

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Speaker 1: hear him talk frankly about that transition was super interesting,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it.

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