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Speaker 2: If you just start with the rule change that they just.

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Speaker 1: Voted the league media touchback thirty five. Yeah, how do

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Speaker 1: It was twenty five two years ago, now at thirty

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Speaker 1: And so as you're looking at the whole grand scheme

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Speaker 3: You lost the kicker Joey, and you still have a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Joey came in did a great job

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Speaker 4: I've made the rounds that some proden what are you

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Speaker 3: You're understanding that that the job of kicker is kind

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Speaker 2: You're talking about the mentality of the kicker's fitting in

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Speaker 1: What have you learned that if you talked to Mike

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Speaker 1: Now we haven't got to there yet, but we're still

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Speaker 1: just they got a different mentality. They just go out there,

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Speaker 2: What do you mean for you?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean for you to see Christian Ellis

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Speaker 1: And like I said, he's another guy where you know,

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Speaker 1: So for him, if he's helped us on one or

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Speaker 1: I'm just guy he's back in the locker room because

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Speaker 1: he's a really good guy. I think he's really good

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Speaker 1: but elevate the organization.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, that's good weekend