WEBVTT - Madonna

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<v Speaker 1>She's reshaped pop music and pushed the boundaries on culture, fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>and sexuality for four decades. Now, live from London, it's Madonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Get an exclusive preview of her new album, Confessions 2.

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<v Speaker 2>It's iHeartRadio and.

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok live premiere with Madonna with support provided by Warner Records.

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<v Speaker 3>I got something I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's your host, Bob the Drag Queen.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the party. We are coming to you live

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<v Speaker 5>from London, where the party is already underway to celebrate

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<v Speaker 5>Madonna's first album since 2019. Thank you for joining in

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<v Speaker 5>tonight on iHeartRadio and on the free iHeartRadio app and

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<v Speaker 5>streaming live on TikTok. Y'all, we are going to have

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<v Speaker 5>a great time tonight as we celebrate a new album

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<v Speaker 5>with the best-selling female recording artist of all time... seven-time

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<v Speaker 5>Grammy Award winner, and you're about to hear exclusively here

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<v Speaker 5>on iHeartRadio and TikTok some songs from the brand-new Confessions

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<v Speaker 5>Part 2 album tonight. Yes, you get to hear them

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<v Speaker 5>right here first over the next few minutes, all right? Plus,

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<v Speaker 5>tonight is all about confessions, and later in the show,

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<v Speaker 5>Madonna herself will answer some of your confessions tonight. while

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<v Speaker 5>sharing exclusive previews of her new music. And I gotta

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<v Speaker 5>tell you right now, you cannot make a legendary pop

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<v Speaker 5>record without a genius, may I call you a genius?

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds good coming in.

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<v Speaker 5>Without a genius in the room. And this is a

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<v Speaker 5>three-time Grammy winner whose resume is longer than my receipt

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<v Speaker 5>at the High Hills shop. He has worked with everyone,

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<v Speaker 5>Kylie Minogue, Gwen Stefani, The Killers, and many, many more.

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<v Speaker 5>And most importantly, though all that, he's the mastermind who

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<v Speaker 5>helped bring us Confessions 1 and now Confessions 2. I

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<v Speaker 5>think we're calling it Confessions 1 now. Please give it

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<v Speaker 5>up for Stuart Price. Stuart, welcome to the madness.

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<v Speaker 2>The madness of the show or the madness of you?

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<v Speaker 5>The answer is yes. Now, before we get into it,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to set up the first TikTok Live fan poll,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're going to do six of these throughout the night,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, giving you, the fans, another way to interact

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<v Speaker 5>with us. And the first TikTok Live fan poll question is,

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<v Speaker 5>Madonna's daughter, Lola Leon, appears on The Test... or Love Sensation.

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<v Speaker 5>Go vote in the polls right now, and we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to read those results soon. Speaking of albums, Stuart, you

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<v Speaker 5>and Madonna reunited after 15 years working together on this

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<v Speaker 5>new album, Confessions 2. How did that come about?

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<v Speaker 6>So actually that came about, Madonna announced that she was

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<v Speaker 6>going to do the Celebration Tour, and my wife said

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<v Speaker 6>she should call her and say congratulations. I said it's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be an amazing tour, and so I did that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I picked up the phone and called, and Madonna said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 6>that's funny. I was just thinking about you. And she

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<v Speaker 6>said she'd been thinking about the other tours that we'd

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<v Speaker 6>done and, you know, and enjoyed that working process. And

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<v Speaker 6>so that's how we picked up and started working together

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<v Speaker 6>again for this tour.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, here's a question. What is different this time than

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<v Speaker 5>15 years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Not much.

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<v Speaker 6>What's changed is there's just been, you know, there's just

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<v Speaker 6>been extra living going on. And I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you always in creative partnerships, you always measure how they're going.

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<v Speaker 2>By how you pick up where you left off.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it feel when you start again?

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<v Speaker 6>But really, for us, it was just a straight line

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<v Speaker 6>to continue working again. And it was just, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it was just like a fresh day.

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<v Speaker 5>It felt like getting back on the bike, just hopping

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<v Speaker 5>right back on and just continuing the journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a fair way of putting it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Now, this is iHeartRadio and TikTok Live premiere with Madonna.

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<v Speaker 5>I am Bob the Drag Queen. I'm talking with Stuart Price,

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<v Speaker 5>the genius, and obviously with Madonna, behind Confessions 1 and 2.

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<v Speaker 5>Hashtag iHeartMadonna. You can tell us what you think using

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<v Speaker 5>our TikTok custom likes. And let's check in on our

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<v Speaker 5>results from the first TikTok Live fan poll. The question was,

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<v Speaker 5>Madonna's daughter, Lola Leon, appears on The Test or Love Sensation?

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<v Speaker 5>And the correct answer is... The test. Let's see how

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<v Speaker 5>many of you got that right. And if you didn't, also,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, do some studying, y'all. The answers are out

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<v Speaker 5>there on the internet. You're on your phone already.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to give them a chance. It's only just

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<v Speaker 2>come out.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, but they should know. But they should know.

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<v Speaker 5>You're very leaning. I love that about you. But for now,

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<v Speaker 5>let's listen to our first song of the evening. This

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<v Speaker 5>is School from the new album, Confessions 2. If you

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<v Speaker 5>are not vibing to that, you need to check your pulse. Stuart,

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<v Speaker 5>tell us about the making of School. What was the process?

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<v Speaker 6>So School started off as, like many songs start off,

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<v Speaker 6>a song with a different title. It had a different

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<v Speaker 6>lyrical theme, but we loved the melodies. We loved the

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<v Speaker 6>feel of some of the chords. And what happens a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of the time in the studio is that you

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<v Speaker 6>remix a song on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going in one direction. It's not right. You rework it.

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<v Speaker 6>But we had heard this track from this great Team

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<v Speaker 6>Triangle Park, and we loved just the kind of substance

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<v Speaker 6>and the vibe of the music. But we wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>switch it up and make a club track. So we

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<v Speaker 6>just started rebuilding the song in that way. And then lyrically,

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<v Speaker 6>Madonna had this idea just about being the leader, being

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<v Speaker 6>the teacher. like taking control and those lyrics all just

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<v Speaker 6>kind of started to spill out and as they started

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<v Speaker 6>to spill out for me that dictated where we could

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<v Speaker 6>take you know the production of the track and the

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<v Speaker 6>effects all those vocals in that track are Madonna they're

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<v Speaker 6>her pitched up pitched down it's that's all her just

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<v Speaker 6>kind of acting out and playing different characters.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm excited to hear like Confessions 0.25 when we hear

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<v Speaker 5>the The first version of it. All right, now, y'all,

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<v Speaker 5>it is time for our next TikTok Live fan poll.

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<v Speaker 5>The question is, what year did Madonna move to New York?

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<v Speaker 5>Was it 1978 or was it 1979? Go vote now.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, in fact, we're going to hop right into

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<v Speaker 5>our next track, and let's listen to, I got to

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<v Speaker 5>listen to it early, and I feel really proud. This

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<v Speaker 5>is one of my favorites. Let's listen to, as they

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<v Speaker 5>say in the UK, Fragile.

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<v Speaker 6>People really think.

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<v Speaker 5>That was absolutely amazing. Tell us a little bit about

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<v Speaker 5>the making of that track too, Fragile.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so dance music can be about escapism, exploration, connection,

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<v Speaker 6>but also it can be a lot about reflection as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And, you know, Madonna's just got this.

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<v Speaker 6>Amazing skill where she's always like talking about her life,

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<v Speaker 6>talking about what she sees in the world, but also

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<v Speaker 6>on this record, things that have happened to her personally

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<v Speaker 6>as well. And she lost her brother during the making

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<v Speaker 6>of this record. And we were working on this song

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<v Speaker 6>at the time with that title. And so really she adapted,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the direction of the song to really encompass

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<v Speaker 6>that moment. And we just we captured it as a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of the songs on the record came about that way.

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<v Speaker 5>That is so beautiful. A lot of time in pop music,

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<v Speaker 5>we're often dancing to people's tragedy. It's really interesting, but

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<v Speaker 5>they turn it into a joyous moment somehow.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, and also something a lot of the time in

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<v Speaker 6>pop music is that people, they rush away from getting

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<v Speaker 6>too deep on a track because it's deemed as not

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<v Speaker 6>going to create something instantaneous. But actually, we were in

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<v Speaker 6>the studio for a long time on this album, and

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<v Speaker 6>that allowed us to just kind of go deeper and

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<v Speaker 6>explore lyrically more and go to more vulnerable places.

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<v Speaker 5>I do want to remind you all that the Queen

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<v Speaker 5>of Pop will be joining us very, very soon. But

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<v Speaker 5>let's check out the results from the second TikTok Live

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<v Speaker 5>fan poll. The question was, what year did Madonna come

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<v Speaker 5>to New York? Was it 1978 or was it 1979?

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<v Speaker 5>And let's see how you all voted. Now, the correct

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<v Speaker 5>answer is actually a debate. I've actually gotten into this

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<v Speaker 5>debate with Madonna myself. So nobody's wrong. So just so

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<v Speaker 5>you know, nobody's wrong. We're all right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Who won the debate?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Madonna won. I mean, she was there. Good answer. Listen,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Bob the Drag Queen. I'm here with Stuart Price,

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<v Speaker 5>and this is iHeartRadio and TikTok Live premiere with Madonna

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<v Speaker 5>joining us very soon. The last track was Fragile from

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<v Speaker 5>Madonna's new album, Confessions Part 2. Are we saying Confessions

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<v Speaker 5>2 or Part 2? What's the official title we're saying here?

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<v Speaker 2>Confessions 2.

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<v Speaker 5>With Confessions 2, an album about her vulnerability and just

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<v Speaker 5>dancing and just a rebirthing of Confessions Part 1. We

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<v Speaker 5>have another TikTok Live fan poll. This question is, where

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<v Speaker 5>did Madonna give a special performance to help launch Confessions

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<v Speaker 5>2 era. The options are Times Square or Hollywood Boulevard.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's hear another track off the new album. Here's Sins

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<v Speaker 5>Are My Savior from Confessions 2. Is that you playing

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<v Speaker 5>piano at the end there? Is that your fingers tickling

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<v Speaker 5>the ivories?

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<v Speaker 2>That is me at the end, yes.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the next piece is Camille, who teaches one

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<v Speaker 6>of Madonna's daughters piano.

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<v Speaker 5>I met Camille. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that song's called

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<v Speaker 5>Sins Are My Savior. And I feel like the religious iconography,

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<v Speaker 5>the Catholicism, is a pretty constant journey throughout Madonna's work. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>what is it like working within that extremely, like, holy context.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah but but actually this on this song um since

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<v Speaker 6>like there's a subversion of that idea and for act

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<v Speaker 6>in fact it's not be directly about religion it's more

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<v Speaker 6>about the perception of uh of madonna you know and

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<v Speaker 6>actually how a lot of the time the criticism of

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<v Speaker 6>her about you know controversy for what purpose you know

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<v Speaker 6>is it for attention no actually she's always using um

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<v Speaker 6>language to to draw attention to stuff she always offers

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<v Speaker 6>an incredible mirror to what's going on in the world

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<v Speaker 6>at the time and a lot of the time i

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<v Speaker 6>think on celebration tour you saw the messages from her

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<v Speaker 6>entire career and her entire catalog are as relevant today

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<v Speaker 6>if not more relevant than they were at the time

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<v Speaker 6>that she was doing it but she's often misunderstood in

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<v Speaker 6>that sense that they're just being used for you know

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<v Speaker 6>a different purpose so really this song is really getting

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<v Speaker 6>inside the head of someone who's saying that these things

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<v Speaker 6>that I do, this is how I save myself. I

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<v Speaker 6>say these things so I don't bottle them up inside.

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<v Speaker 6>Madonna's the biggest proponent of self-expression. She always encourages that

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<v Speaker 6>in other people and she performs that in herself as well.

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<v Speaker 6>But there's a need to do that as well because

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<v Speaker 6>in life, if you bottle things up inside you, they

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<v Speaker 6>just grow in bad ways. You have to let these

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<v Speaker 6>things out. So there is no sin in saying how

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<v Speaker 6>you feel. There is no sin in being who you are. Like,

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<v Speaker 6>doing that is actually what saves you. And that's what

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<v Speaker 6>the song's about.

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<v Speaker 5>I think what I noticed, too, during the tour and

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<v Speaker 5>getting ready for it, I was realizing, because I had to, like,

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<v Speaker 5>look at, because I was also, like, we were all

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<v Speaker 5>helping make the show. So many of us were helping

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<v Speaker 5>make the show under, you know, Madonna's tutelage, obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>This wasn't all your madness?

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<v Speaker 5>No, of course not. And watching, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 5>got to look at a lot of Madonna clips and

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<v Speaker 5>stuff in the past. It's a 40-year retrospective. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>when I realized it is never controversy for the sake

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<v Speaker 5>of controversy. It is never noise for the sake of noise.

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<v Speaker 5>It is never beauty for the sake of beauty. It

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<v Speaker 5>really all does serve a greater purpose and a message

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<v Speaker 5>that I think the fans can pick up on, which

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<v Speaker 5>is why I think people connect to her so fiercely.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I have to say, you know, often in the studio,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Madonna's lyric writing and those moments that come,

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<v Speaker 6>she is recalling very specific things that have happened in

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<v Speaker 6>her life. You know, they're all coming back to her

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<v Speaker 6>and she's taking them into that moment to write the song,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it would be about, whether that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>that song, Everything. Everything that's on that came from a

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<v Speaker 6>moment of frustration about how at this point in time

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<v Speaker 6>we are all cut into this kind of, there's an

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<v Speaker 6>enforced existence inside.

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<v Speaker 2>A digital world.

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<v Speaker 6>A frustration about that is that actually just go outside

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<v Speaker 6>and feel the beauty. You know, everything has these sounds

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<v Speaker 6>in the background where I was walking through Central Park

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<v Speaker 6>and I recorded just the sounds of nature of being

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<v Speaker 6>outside because I noticed that nobody was on their phone

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<v Speaker 6>out there in the park. They were just, they might

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<v Speaker 6>have bumped into you actually on one of your five

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<v Speaker 6>mile walks. Yeah, you were just talking about. But so

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<v Speaker 6>to capture that kind of those sounds and then to

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<v Speaker 6>put those on the record.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>That was a subject that Madonna was frustrated with. So

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<v Speaker 6>that's what the song is. You know, it blows my

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<v Speaker 6>mind why people don't just want to go outside. And

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<v Speaker 6>so I think that in that sense, one of her,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, her whole career she's had that is is

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<v Speaker 6>is is. Channeling these experiences for him from her life

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<v Speaker 6>and putting them on the record. And that's really, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>confessions on the one hand is just the sound of collaboration.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the sound of confessions. One is the sound of

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<v Speaker 2>a collaboration. Same here.

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<v Speaker 6>But the second thing I think is very literally she's

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<v Speaker 6>telling it like it is.

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<v Speaker 5>I do want to remind you all that Madonna will

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<v Speaker 5>be joining us live right here very, very soon from London.

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<v Speaker 5>And right now I am sitting with Stuart Price, who

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<v Speaker 5>is the mastermind with Madonna behind both Confessions 1 and

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<v Speaker 5>Confession 2. And I got to meet you. I want

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about this idea of like subverting the ideas,

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<v Speaker 5>which Madonna does a lot. And I want to say

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<v Speaker 5>you kind of do it too. I kind of told

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<v Speaker 5>you we were at MSG or Barclays. And I kind

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<v Speaker 5>of said to you, I was like, I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 5>you were a DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I look like an accountant.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, what are you wearing up there DJing?

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<v Speaker 5>How do you get mixed up in this world of

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<v Speaker 5>pop music and looking like.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I love the idea of hiding in plain sight pseudonyms.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that when you use pseudonyms, as I've done

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<v Speaker 6>throughout my career... You know, what I like is that

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<v Speaker 6>you're constantly proving something again and again and again. You're

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<v Speaker 6>drawing the tension on it. It has to be about

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<v Speaker 6>the art. It has to be about the music. And

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<v Speaker 6>I think that whilst there's a lot to be said

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<v Speaker 6>for the power of suggestion with image, you can create

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<v Speaker 6>fantasy and take people to a certain place.

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<v Speaker 2>If you actually don't conform.

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<v Speaker 6>within the paradigm and the orthodoxy of what, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>pop is supposed to be, you can create an entirely

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<v Speaker 6>different conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I loved it.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like every time I go up on stage

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<v Speaker 6>and go up there, it's like, you know, why did

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<v Speaker 6>the lawyer show up? Nothing against lawyers and accountants, of course.

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<v Speaker 6>My parents are accountants. But I enjoy that duality of it.

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<v Speaker 6>And as they say, no mystique, big mistake.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to quickly check in our TikTok live fan poll.

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<v Speaker 5>The question was, where did Madonna give a special performance

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<v Speaker 5>to help launch the Confessions 2 era? The options were

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<v Speaker 5>Times Square or Hollywood Boulevard, and the answer is Times Square.

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<v Speaker 5>It was absolutely iconic. Were you there for this moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on a minute. What was the poll? What was

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<v Speaker 2>the question?

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<v Speaker 5>The question was, where did Madonna do the special performance

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<v Speaker 5>to promote Confessions 2? Times Square or Hollywood Boulevard?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we did do something in Hollywood before Times Square.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, what did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>We showed up at the Abbey.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right!

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<v Speaker 6>Which was the first time, which, Hollywood, I mean, it's Hollywood, so, well,

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<v Speaker 6>it's West Hollywood, actually, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>We have, we have. A whole different city, actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Close enough, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, listen, if you're listening on your favorite iHeartRadio station,

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<v Speaker 5>the iHeartRadio app, or watching live on TikTok, this is

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<v Speaker 5>iHeartRadio and TikTok Live premiere with Madonna. I'm Bob the

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<v Speaker 5>Drag Queen. I am here with producer of the album,

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<v Speaker 5>Stuart Price. And it is time for the queen of

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<v Speaker 5>the dance floor herself, a worldwide superstar, the definition of icon,

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<v Speaker 5>and the driving force behind her. the brand new album,

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<v Speaker 5>Confessions 2. Please sit at home and stand up and

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<v Speaker 5>make some noise for Mother Herself, Madonna! Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 5>Me again, me again. Now, Em, first of all, you

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<v Speaker 5>look absolutely stunning. That's a given. Second, Confessions 2 finally

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<v Speaker 5>drops tonight. The world has been waiting since 2019. Why now?

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<v Speaker 5>Why summer 2026? Why is this the right time for

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<v Speaker 5>Confessions 2?

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<v Speaker 7>Because I was in the mood to make it with Stuart.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it was just everything cyclical. So the tour

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<v Speaker 7>ended and we had been working on music during the

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<v Speaker 7>tour and it was like, I was going to make

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<v Speaker 7>a movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody knows that. And then it didn't happen. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, well, let's make music.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's your thing.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I, yeah. And then everything felt so summer dance.

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<v Speaker 7>It just felt like 2026 summer was the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, 15 years is a long time to wait.

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<v Speaker 5>You reunited with Stuart Price for the new album. You

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<v Speaker 5>haven't worked together for a very long time. And here

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<v Speaker 5>we all are. You've heard, we've all heard Stuart's answer,

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<v Speaker 5>but what was it like for you working with Stuart

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<v Speaker 5>again after all these years?

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, it was perfect.

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<v Speaker 7>I was a little bit nervous at first, but, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>worried that we didn't have the same chemistry.

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<v Speaker 4>But it turned out, like, it was like, how many years?

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<v Speaker 7>15.

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<v Speaker 4>15.

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<v Speaker 5>15?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. It's like 15 years never passed.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what Stuart, oh my God, that's what Stuart said.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like we just picked up like it was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>That's literally what Stuart just said.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's because it's the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Get out of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how it happens.

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<v Speaker 6>You actually, it's very hard to work with someone and

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<v Speaker 6>collaborate with someone if you just aren't able to use

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<v Speaker 6>less words and just do more creation.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what it's like.

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<v Speaker 6>We have a really great shorthand for creating music together.

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<v Speaker 2>It helps a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>The night is all about the new album, Confessions 2,

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<v Speaker 5>and we have some real confessions from fans who want

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<v Speaker 5>your advice, Em.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's listen to our first one. This is from Frankie.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's hear Frankie. Hey, Madonna.

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<v Speaker 6>This is Frankie from New York City. My confession is

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<v Speaker 6>that sometimes I.

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<v Speaker 5>Get really nervous meeting guys when I'm out at the club.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your best advice to open myself up and express

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<v Speaker 3>myself when I'm out on the dance floor? Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Frankie.

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<v Speaker 4>Frankie.

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<v Speaker 7>I would say I think the best thing for you

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<v Speaker 7>to do is to listen to Confessions on a Dance

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<v Speaker 7>Floor Part 2 before you go out while sipping a

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<v Speaker 7>glass of rosé.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you ever approach the guys?

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<v Speaker 4>Me personally?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah. What?

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<v Speaker 7>No, because I intimidate people, so if I don't step

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<v Speaker 7>up first.

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<v Speaker 5>That is true. No one's going to go up to Madonna.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to be netting no mates forever.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly. I mean, what do you say? How do you...

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<v Speaker 5>How do you approach the ladies?

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<v Speaker 2>My approach is I'm way too nervous.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very not interested.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I hang out in the DJ booth.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why people fall in love with him, because he's

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<v Speaker 7>not interested.

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually an attraction to not be out there so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Available.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, did you say something?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's get another TikTok live fan poll. The question is,

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<v Speaker 5>what energy are you bringing to the dance floor? Pure

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<v Speaker 5>chaos or release? Those are your options. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 5>all get your vote in right now. And now, Emma,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to talk to you real quick. A lot

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<v Speaker 5>of these tracks touch on some incredibly heavy and vulnerable

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<v Speaker 5>moments in your life. We were just talking about how

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<v Speaker 5>you suffered loss during the making of this album. And

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<v Speaker 5>you've always had this, like, unmatched gift for turning raw

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<v Speaker 5>pain into pure power on the dance floor. What is

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<v Speaker 5>this cathartic process like for you?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's kind of different every time. But since

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<v Speaker 7>I was a child, that's survival. finding a way to

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<v Speaker 7>turn disappointment or loss into some form of joy.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love to tell stories.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, does it feel strange at all to you

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<v Speaker 5>to have such a gut-wrenching story being told? And people

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<v Speaker 5>are literally dancing. They found joy in your story. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>kind of in your story. How does that feel to

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<v Speaker 5>see that?

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<v Speaker 7>Because at the end of the day, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>take the loss of my brother Christopher, for example, and

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<v Speaker 7>turn it into something that was, you know, transcendent.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like, I'm going to take this pain and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to rise above it. And I know that my.

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<v Speaker 7>Brother is with me in a different way. And I

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<v Speaker 7>can find the good in that. And that's something that

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<v Speaker 7>I think a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 4>Can relate to.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I definitely relate to it. I experienced the loss

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<v Speaker 5>of my mother right after your tour. And I remember

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<v Speaker 5>calling you on the phone and talking about it. But

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<v Speaker 5>I've actually been able to find ways to turn that

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<v Speaker 5>into something, you know, that I can actually smile about.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I'm celebrating the life, not the loss. You know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, death is a part of life, but that's

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<v Speaker 7>like you can't stop living, you know?

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<v Speaker 5>What are you saying, Stuart?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, how do you process? How do you

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<v Speaker 6>process guilt? How do you process pain? How do you

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<v Speaker 6>process loss? I mean, if you put it into a song,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a chance someone else will connect to that shared

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<v Speaker 6>feeling and the song will, you know, enrich their life.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like that's where your fans connect to you.

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<v Speaker 5>They really do the same thing when they use your

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<v Speaker 5>tracks to push through their own, like, heavy moments. And

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<v Speaker 5>I want to listen to another confession. This one is

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<v Speaker 5>from a fan named Andy. hi queen mother madonna i

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<v Speaker 5>love ya it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy my confession is that i spent some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my rent money on your album but.

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<v Speaker 3>Worth it what's the craziest thing you've ever spent your

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<v Speaker 3>rent money on.

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<v Speaker 7>My rent money yeah rent money um well when i

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<v Speaker 7>was paying rent back in the.

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<v Speaker 5>Day uh What was that girl at the Russian tea

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<v Speaker 5>room spending her money on?

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<v Speaker 4>The girl at the Russian tea room. I've never been

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<v Speaker 4>a spendthrift.

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<v Speaker 7>So now that I have money, I spend it on

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<v Speaker 7>probably traveling, expensive birthday parties, things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been to some of those birthday parties. They're very fun.

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<v Speaker 4>It's worth it, right? It's worth the money.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's fun. It's very fun.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to spend money on something. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 7>spend it on celebrating my birth.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what Leo's always say. And I also love that

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<v Speaker 5>you love to have people around you, too, when you're

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<v Speaker 5>doing those things as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I do. I like to share with family and friends.

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<v Speaker 5>Your fans really do love you, and these confessions are

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<v Speaker 5>just proving that, I feel like. And let's take a

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<v Speaker 5>look at our fifth TikTok live fan poll. The question was,

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<v Speaker 5>what energy are you bringing to the dance floor? Pure

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<v Speaker 5>chaos or release? And I would love to see what

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<v Speaker 5>those results are right now. And the results are... I

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<v Speaker 5>think we're giving pure chaos, which says a lot about Really? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I think. That's what I'm thinking. Can you say the answers?

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<v Speaker 5>I think I'm getting it in the ear, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's what they're telling me.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, be careful what you wish for.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a party for us to go to tonight,

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<v Speaker 5>and I will be releasing in the way that I

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<v Speaker 5>choose to. Now, as if tonight cannot get any better,

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<v Speaker 5>we have another very special guest joining us. She is

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<v Speaker 5>a stunning model. She is a brilliant dancer. She is

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<v Speaker 5>a musician in her own right, and she brings incredible

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<v Speaker 5>vocal magic to this brand-new album alongside... her mother. Please

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<v Speaker 5>welcome the gorgeous, the effortlessly cool Lola. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's your seat, my love.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow, that intro.

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<v Speaker 5>Was it good?

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<v Speaker 4>I got a lot to live up to.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, hello.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi.

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<v Speaker 8>You look so pretty.

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<v Speaker 4>So do you. I sound surprised. So do you.

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<v Speaker 7>Like mother and daughter.

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<v Speaker 5>So Em and Lola, you wrote and performed the song

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<v Speaker 5>The Test together. And I want to know, like, how

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<v Speaker 5>did you approach, whose idea was to approach this?

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<v Speaker 4>It was my idea.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that between a mother and a daughter in

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<v Speaker 8>a relationship, it's kind of, there's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 8>that are unspoken. There's a lot of love that is unspoken,

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<v Speaker 8>but also a lot of, you know, tension and emotions

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<v Speaker 8>that kind of are difficult to put into words because

0:23:37.369 --> 0:23:41.260
<v Speaker 8>it can be so emotional and a way that i

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<v Speaker 8>thought would be easier for us to speak about these

0:23:44.980 --> 0:23:49.540
<v Speaker 8>things would be maybe through art which is always something

0:23:50.580 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 8>that my mom and i have connected over uh that's

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 8>really brought us together so.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah i also find it really interesting because obviously as

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<v Speaker 5>you know your mother has a lot of work about

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<v Speaker 5>her mother like a lot of the work is about

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<v Speaker 5>through the trauma of losing your mother at a young

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<v Speaker 5>age and now you're also you not lost your mother

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<v Speaker 5>at a young age but you also have work please

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<v Speaker 5>don't do that but you do have work about like

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<v Speaker 5>what it is like to be with your mom I

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<v Speaker 5>think the test is a very emotional song and it's

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<v Speaker 5>also very healing I want to know what the process

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<v Speaker 5>was like writing for each one of you Em how

0:24:21.290 --> 0:24:22.670
<v Speaker 5>was it for you it was.

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<v Speaker 7>Very emotional and there were moments in the writing process

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<v Speaker 7>when we were in the studio where I felt like

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:33.900
<v Speaker 7>crying I cried Hugging her. It was kind of, you know,

0:24:34.340 --> 0:24:37.050
<v Speaker 7>because as she says, we don't always agree on things,

0:24:37.210 --> 0:24:42.590
<v Speaker 7>but we love creativity and art has always connected us.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a very magical moment. And we both had

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<v Speaker 4>to be vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I think before I had approached you about wanting to

0:24:53.170 --> 0:24:59.400
<v Speaker 8>get into the studio, I remember having dreams where my grandmother,

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.420
<v Speaker 8>your mother, had come to me in those dreams. And

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.690
<v Speaker 8>it was kind of unclear what she said, but I

0:25:05.730 --> 0:25:10.430
<v Speaker 8>just felt her presence. And it left me wondering what

0:25:10.590 --> 0:25:12.889
<v Speaker 8>kind of person I would be if she was alive

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<v Speaker 8>and what kind of person you would be if she

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<v Speaker 8>was alive and what our relationship would be like. And

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 8>those questions will always be unanswered, but I think it

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<v Speaker 8>was a really beautiful way to honor her and heal

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<v Speaker 8>each other through her eyes kind of as a spirit.

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<v Speaker 5>This might sound like a silly question, but did you

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<v Speaker 5>feel like you had to build up the courage to

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<v Speaker 5>ask your mom to collab on a song? Not really.

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<v Speaker 8>I think this is... Maybe this is going to sound stupid, but...

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<v Speaker 8>She's a very intimidating person, and I have found that

0:25:54.050 --> 0:25:56.929
<v Speaker 8>I'm not intimidated by many people as a result of

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:02.500
<v Speaker 8>her being my mom. So, you know, it was an

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.439
<v Speaker 8>easy question, and it seemed so simple, really. It was

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<v Speaker 8>such like a duh moment when I asked her, because

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.470
<v Speaker 8>it's like, why the frick wouldn't we.

0:26:11.490 --> 0:26:15.990
<v Speaker 4>Good take. Wouldn't we work together, and wouldn't we.

0:26:17.730 --> 0:26:18.850
<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't we have a no brainer?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 8>It felt so natural, honestly. And I don't really, um,

0:26:23.460 --> 0:26:27.899
<v Speaker 8>she kind of was shading me for this, but I

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<v Speaker 8>see when I get in the studio, I kind of,

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 8>we'll just kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of blurt things out.

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.030
<v Speaker 8>I'm kind of freestyle and she's very analog and writes

0:26:35.070 --> 0:26:38.169
<v Speaker 8>everything down with a fountain pen and a piece of paper,

0:26:38.230 --> 0:26:41.490
<v Speaker 8>which I respect and probably should be doing. But yeah,

0:26:41.530 --> 0:26:43.830
<v Speaker 8>it just kind of rolled off the tongue and.

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<v Speaker 4>It felt really, felt really good. You're a texter. You're a,

0:26:46.780 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 4>you're a, I'm not a, All right.

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:26:49.780 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 7>Okay.

0:26:49.980 --> 0:26:52.780
<v Speaker 5>Before we write, I have to write a whole new song.

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<v Speaker 4>It's generational.

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 5>It is.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 4>I only know writing in a journal.

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<v Speaker 6>But that moment existed where you had a pen and

0:26:58.900 --> 0:27:00.470
<v Speaker 6>paper and you had your phone.

0:27:00.770 --> 0:27:01.990
<v Speaker 2>But the same thing that happened.

0:27:02.010 --> 0:27:03.750
<v Speaker 4>We were both looking at each other like.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, no, but the words were there. But then you

0:27:06.369 --> 0:27:08.949
<v Speaker 6>sang and you started tearing up.

0:27:09.310 --> 0:27:09.750
<v Speaker 5>That's beautiful.

0:27:09.770 --> 0:27:13.679
<v Speaker 2>And then you sang. And you started tearing up. No,

0:27:13.700 --> 0:27:14.460
<v Speaker 2>it's not being an idiot.

0:27:14.500 --> 0:27:16.540
<v Speaker 5>It's beautiful. Did you tear up too, Stuart?

0:27:16.619 --> 0:27:18.060
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did tear.

0:27:17.859 --> 0:27:18.310
<v Speaker 5>Up, actually.

0:27:18.369 --> 0:27:19.650
<v Speaker 4>No, he did not. He's British.

0:27:19.710 --> 0:27:20.770
<v Speaker 2>I teared up on the inside.

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<v Speaker 5>It is iHeartRadio and TikTok Live, premiered with Madonna, I'm

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.750
<v Speaker 5>Bob the Drag Queen, along with, of course, Madonna, Lola,

0:27:50.990 --> 0:27:53.530
<v Speaker 5>and Stuart Price. Now, Em, I want to talk to

0:27:53.550 --> 0:27:55.689
<v Speaker 5>you about this. So while the world is losing its

0:27:55.750 --> 0:27:58.970
<v Speaker 5>mind waiting for this new album, TikTok has been absolutely

0:27:59.090 --> 0:28:02.940
<v Speaker 5>flooded with people throwing way back to the classics. I mean,

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 5>generations of fans are turning legendary moments into massive dance trends.

0:28:08.340 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 5>I saw a comment recently that said, I love that

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:16.500
<v Speaker 5>every generation gets to have their Madonna moment. And that

0:28:16.540 --> 0:28:18.810
<v Speaker 5>really rang true. Like, we all, yeah, I remember mine.

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:24.649
<v Speaker 5>You know, my mom remembers hers. Mine was music. No,

0:28:24.790 --> 0:28:25.290
<v Speaker 5>Don't Tell Me.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, the Cowboys.

0:28:26.270 --> 0:28:30.810
<v Speaker 5>Yes, mixed with Britney Spears. That was like a massive

0:28:30.890 --> 0:28:33.110
<v Speaker 5>moment for me. I was like... I was like, who

0:28:33.350 --> 0:28:36.699
<v Speaker 5>is this? That whole era was really, really huge for me.

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:38.739
<v Speaker 5>But I do want to look at some of these

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.380
<v Speaker 5>trends they're making. They're out here trying their absolute best

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.300
<v Speaker 5>to keep up with you. These first two videos are

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.220
<v Speaker 5>from the Bring Your Love trend. Let's take a look.

0:28:50.950 --> 0:28:56.580
<v Speaker 5>So you've made it to the TikTok transition side of TikTok.

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.620
<v Speaker 4>What is the trend exactly?

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.020
<v Speaker 5>The trend seems to be you starting to look where

0:29:01.060 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 5>you're not quite there yet, and then you walk past

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.140
<v Speaker 5>a pole, or you walk through, you move your hand,

0:29:06.500 --> 0:29:10.410
<v Speaker 5>and there's the new you. This one is from the

0:29:10.790 --> 0:29:15.930
<v Speaker 5>song Danceteria. Let's take a look at it. Now that's

0:29:15.970 --> 0:29:17.070
<v Speaker 5>the dancing you were looking for.

0:29:17.090 --> 0:29:18.770
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, that's choreography.

0:29:19.890 --> 0:29:20.630
<v Speaker 5>And you're a dancer too.

0:29:21.900 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 4>She sure is.

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.010
<v Speaker 5>Do we have to give you a resume for you?

0:29:25.020 --> 0:29:27.980
<v Speaker 5>You're like, I guess I be dancing. I guess I dance.

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:28.500
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure.

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 5>Why not?

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 8>If you want to speak for me, I'm down.

0:29:32.290 --> 0:29:34.530
<v Speaker 5>Do you identify? Are you like, yeah, I'm a dancer?

0:29:35.190 --> 0:29:38.310
<v Speaker 8>I mean, yeah, I trained as a dancer. I really

0:29:38.350 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 8>enjoy it. I think it's a really cathartic way. of

0:29:40.260 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 8>expressing yourself.

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:43.459
<v Speaker 5>I will say this. Speaking of dancing, this is one

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 5>that I actually tried myself. We don't have a video

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 5>of me, thank God. But this one is, these next

0:29:48.100 --> 0:29:50.870
<v Speaker 5>two videos are the Madonna squat challenge. And I think

0:29:50.910 --> 0:29:53.130
<v Speaker 5>you obviously know what this is. This is you doing squats.

0:29:53.150 --> 0:29:55.650
<v Speaker 5>I don't have cartilage in my knee. Can you say that?

0:29:55.690 --> 0:29:56.270
<v Speaker 5>What was that?

0:29:56.510 --> 0:29:58.690
<v Speaker 4>It's why I don't have cartilage in my knee anymore,

0:29:58.710 --> 0:29:59.170
<v Speaker 4>but yes.

0:29:59.270 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 5>Well, let's see how it's going to affect these people.

0:30:00.580 --> 0:30:07.940
<v Speaker 5>Let's see. Okay, she better work. And also in those

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.500
<v Speaker 5>gigantic shoes, Miss Thing better work. You know, rumor has it,

0:30:11.610 --> 0:30:13.110
<v Speaker 5>that's what they say on the streets, that you were

0:30:13.150 --> 0:30:15.830
<v Speaker 5>doing this not just on stage, but everywhere. You were

0:30:15.850 --> 0:30:19.170
<v Speaker 5>doing it at the parties, anytime. That's what the streets

0:30:19.190 --> 0:30:20.700
<v Speaker 5>are saying. Does that sound true to you?

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 4>It's possible. Maybe.

0:30:21.900 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what came over me. I just wanted

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 7>to build strong quads, so I just did it everywhere.

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.980
<v Speaker 5>The music was in you. OK, we have our last

0:30:31.130 --> 0:30:34.170
<v Speaker 5>TikTok live fan poll. The question is, what brings you

0:30:34.270 --> 0:30:38.610
<v Speaker 5>to confess tonight? Desire I can't ignore or a truth

0:30:38.950 --> 0:30:41.540
<v Speaker 5>I buried. That is a desire I can't ignore or

0:30:41.580 --> 0:30:44.140
<v Speaker 5>a truth I buried. I cannot wait to see what

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 5>the responses are. We're celebrating the release of Confessions 2 tonight.

0:30:48.220 --> 0:30:52.310
<v Speaker 5>So let's get to our final fan confession from Daniel.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Madonna, this is Daniel from Toronto. I just wanted

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.020
<v Speaker 3>to know if there was a song that you have

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 3>written that means something different to you today than when

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 3>you first wrote it. And thanks for serving us on

0:31:05.700 --> 0:31:06.460
<v Speaker 3>Madonna Summer.

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:08.620
<v Speaker 4>You're welcome.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.070
<v Speaker 5>Have you got any songs that have changed their meaning

0:31:11.090 --> 0:31:11.770
<v Speaker 5>over time for you?

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:16.790
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, no. I mean, I would be lying. Maybe you

0:31:16.810 --> 0:31:17.470
<v Speaker 4>can think of something.

0:31:17.550 --> 0:31:19.150
<v Speaker 5>Well, I want to ask about one because when we

0:31:19.170 --> 0:31:21.250
<v Speaker 5>were creating the last show, we had to pick the

0:31:21.310 --> 0:31:26.020
<v Speaker 5>opening song. There's one song that Madonna did not want

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 5>at the top of the show, and it was Material Girl.

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.650
<v Speaker 5>Does that mean something different to you then than now?

0:31:32.850 --> 0:31:34.410
<v Speaker 5>What was your relationship to that song?

0:31:34.910 --> 0:31:37.010
<v Speaker 7>My relationship to the song was I was aware of

0:31:37.050 --> 0:31:40.410
<v Speaker 7>the irony of it because I'm not a materialistic person.

0:31:41.150 --> 0:31:44.330
<v Speaker 7>But it was very tongue-in-cheek. I think a lot of

0:31:44.350 --> 0:31:46.830
<v Speaker 7>people took it literally. I'm not sure people got the irony.

0:31:47.490 --> 0:31:48.350
<v Speaker 4>It's still the same.

0:31:48.370 --> 0:31:50.730
<v Speaker 8>To quote you, you can be a spiritual person and

0:31:50.810 --> 0:31:51.810
<v Speaker 8>still shop at Prada.

0:31:53.390 --> 0:31:55.150
<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah. That's true.

0:31:55.170 --> 0:31:59.310
<v Speaker 5>I remember being like, oh, it's going to be this song.

0:31:59.330 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 5>And you were like, we're not doing that song.

0:32:00.860 --> 0:32:04.100
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, all right, back to the drawing board.

0:32:04.140 --> 0:32:07.740
<v Speaker 7>There's some songs, the early songs, I can't sing them anymore.

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 4>That's fair. It's like looking at your yearbook from middle school.

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 4>You're like, I'm not that person anymore.

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.140
<v Speaker 5>Now, Em, your sound is already deeply embedded in the

0:32:17.180 --> 0:32:21.670
<v Speaker 5>DNA of our culture and every pop star who's alive

0:32:21.770 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 5>and some who are not with us. It is a

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 5>literal lifeline. So we have our final TikTok Live poll

0:32:27.460 --> 0:32:31.020
<v Speaker 5>where we're asking, what brings you to confess tonight? Desire

0:32:31.100 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 5>I can't ignore or a truth I've buried? Honestly, sometimes

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.570
<v Speaker 5>for me, it is both. And what I'm seeing is

0:32:37.590 --> 0:32:39.430
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people have said the group. And what

0:32:39.450 --> 0:32:43.110
<v Speaker 5>I'm seeing is the winner is desire I can't ignore.

0:32:43.130 --> 0:32:44.750
<v Speaker 5>A lot of you all can ignore the fact that

0:32:44.770 --> 0:32:46.070
<v Speaker 5>you just got to get out there and whatever it

0:32:46.130 --> 0:32:47.590
<v Speaker 5>is in you, you can't ignore it. Do you have

0:32:47.630 --> 0:32:48.390
<v Speaker 5>anything like that for you?

0:32:48.690 --> 0:32:49.930
<v Speaker 4>Desires I can't ignore?

0:32:49.950 --> 0:32:50.670
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, for sure.

0:32:50.690 --> 0:32:55.530
<v Speaker 4>Oh, my God. Every day. Are you kidding me? I've

0:32:55.670 --> 0:32:56.830
<v Speaker 4>just become a lot.

0:32:57.230 --> 0:33:02.410
<v Speaker 7>Like, the time between desire and expressing it is getting

0:33:02.470 --> 0:33:03.130
<v Speaker 7>shorter and shorter.

0:33:03.150 --> 0:33:06.850
<v Speaker 4>It's blurted out now. I don't waste time, because time

0:33:06.910 --> 0:33:07.370
<v Speaker 4>is precious.

0:33:07.870 --> 0:33:09.570
<v Speaker 5>That is true. I want to talk for a moment

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<v Speaker 5>about Bring Your Love, the song that you collaborated on

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<v Speaker 5>Sabrina Carpenter with. And how did that song come together?

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<v Speaker 7>That song was really about... My feelings while I was writing,

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<v Speaker 7>when I was working with Stuart in the beginning, and

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of people were in my ear saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>you should do this, and you should do that, and

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<v Speaker 7>you should collaborate with this person, or you should make

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<v Speaker 7>this kind of a song, and making me very, like,

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 7>forcing me to focus on what's popular, you know, algorithms,

0:33:45.100 --> 0:33:50.020
<v Speaker 7>following trends, and I found it to be the antithesis

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:55.810
<v Speaker 7>to art and creativity. So I was struggling with that paradox. So,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, when I say, don't try to distract me with.

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<v Speaker 4>Numbers, I did it all for love.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, I don't want to think about streaming numbers

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<v Speaker 7>when I'm writing a song.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to tell the story. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>When you're, like, collabing with, you collab with everybody. A

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 5>lot of people, like, ask you for, like, tutelage and, like,

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<v Speaker 5>mentorship when y'all are in the booth writing or, you know,

0:34:18.219 --> 0:34:20.140
<v Speaker 5>writing back and forth on emails or when that fountain

0:34:20.180 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 5>pen is spilling his ink are they like coming to

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<v Speaker 5>the well for knowledge.

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<v Speaker 6>I think people see a lot like i think in

0:34:27.020 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 6>the studio you see people like see how madonna behaves

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.589
<v Speaker 6>like how hard she works like it's infectious to be

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<v Speaker 6>around but it's also a learning experience because i think

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<v Speaker 6>even people are very very successful see oh that's what

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<v Speaker 6>it takes to become ultra successful and and it's ultimately

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<v Speaker 6>the end of the day like all of this it's

0:34:45.830 --> 0:34:48.790
<v Speaker 6>just super super hard work and commitment.

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<v Speaker 5>I do want to say, you all can probably hear

0:34:51.340 --> 0:34:52.460
<v Speaker 5>there's a party going on.

0:34:52.420 --> 0:34:54.259
<v Speaker 4>Right next door. Yeah, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we are certainly going to get to the party.

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.140
<v Speaker 5>I want to talk about this. Speaking of parties.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd rather talk to you, Bob, honestly.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. I would love talking to you. I want

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about the song Danceteria, named after the New

0:35:04.140 --> 0:35:07.540
<v Speaker 5>York club where you got an early break from, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Art Kamens.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly. Get up in there. And this is your...

0:35:11.590 --> 0:35:16.090
<v Speaker 5>It also plays to your debut single, Everybody. In that song,

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<v Speaker 5>you name-checked your then-roommate, Martin... Pronounce it for me. Martin Burgoyne.

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<v Speaker 4>Burgoyne.

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<v Speaker 5>Martin Burgoyne.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>In the club's doorman. And the actress, Debbie Mazur, who's

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<v Speaker 5>one of your oldest friends, who I've met with you

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<v Speaker 5>several times in Italy. Who did you first meet at

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 5>this club? What about this club stood out to you

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<v Speaker 5>so much?

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<v Speaker 4>People's fashion.

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:37.819
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:42.299
<v Speaker 7>Like, unique way of expressing themselves through the way they dressed.

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<v Speaker 7>It was not necessarily about having money. It just was unique,

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<v Speaker 7>and the freedom people had. And what I loved about

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<v Speaker 7>Danceteria is that it had so many floors of different

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<v Speaker 7>things happening. Like, there was dance, one kind of music, like,

0:35:57.070 --> 0:35:59.590
<v Speaker 7>new romantic music on one floor. Then there was punk

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.060
<v Speaker 7>music on another floor. Then on another floor, there was theater,

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<v Speaker 7>like a variety show kind of theater, comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Then on another.

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<v Speaker 7>They were playing cinema. You know, it was one-stop shopping.

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<v Speaker 7>So entertaining and inspiring.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you find yourself being.

0:36:17.180 --> 0:36:19.339
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I felt like I walked into, you know,

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 4>a candy store.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, this is around the time when you would

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<v Speaker 5>probably first hear one of your songs on the radio.

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<v Speaker 5>What is this like for you at this time?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, when I first went there, there was no songs

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<v Speaker 4>being played on the radio. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So what's the first time you did hear your song?

0:36:32.219 --> 0:36:34.219
<v Speaker 4>I begged Burrow and Steele to get my song on

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<v Speaker 4>the radio.

0:36:34.700 --> 0:36:37.060
<v Speaker 5>I mean, how did you convince these DJs to play

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.580
<v Speaker 5>your music? Like, how did you convince them to... I

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:40.620
<v Speaker 5>just batted.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:44.230
<v Speaker 4>My really long eyelashes. I'm just kidding. My song was good.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on.

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<v Speaker 5>That is true. That is true.

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<v Speaker 7>But, you know, DJs do get asked to listen to

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of things. So I definitely worked his last nerve.

0:36:53.130 --> 0:36:54.130
<v Speaker 4>Like, the guy who.

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<v Speaker 7>eventually brought me to an A &amp; R person at

0:36:56.910 --> 0:36:59.690
<v Speaker 7>a record label, he was sick of seeing me. He

0:36:59.710 --> 0:37:01.760
<v Speaker 7>would literally see me coming towards him, and he would run.

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:06.060
<v Speaker 4>That's Mark Kamens. And so, but I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 4>had a guardian angel, and.

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<v Speaker 7>He allowed himself to, you know, he took a break

0:37:11.580 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 7>and listened to my song.

0:37:12.500 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 5>And you didn't give up.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't. No, tenacity.

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<v Speaker 5>And to this day.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one of my qualities.

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<v Speaker 5>You always say the most controversial thing you've ever done

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<v Speaker 5>is stick around. That's like my favorite end quote.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. We've come to the end of this special preview,

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<v Speaker 5>so make sure that you go and download Confessions 2. Stuart,

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<v Speaker 5>what would be one word to sum up reuniting with

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<v Speaker 5>Madonna again for Confessions 2?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, God, like alignment.

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<v Speaker 5>Alignment, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, it's just being in the same place,

0:37:44.739 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 6>like wanting to, you know, musically being aligned, creatively being aligned. Like,

0:37:49.780 --> 0:37:52.380
<v Speaker 6>when that happens, and it's rare that it does happen...

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<v Speaker 6>You see the results come.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, alignment.

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<v Speaker 5>And Lola, can you give us one word that sums

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<v Speaker 5>up your experience with creating the test with your mother?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's been said before, but I think just healing.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a beautiful journey to be able to heal, but

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<v Speaker 5>also vulnerable to do it in front of the world. Right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And Em, I'm going to give you the final last word.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you give us a word to sum up Confessions 2?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't fuck it up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>You're going to be great.

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to be thinking here for a minute.

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<v Speaker 5>No worries.

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<v Speaker 4>One word to sum up Confessions?

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<v Speaker 5>And of course, you can say more words if you want.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have to sum it to one.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

0:38:39.150 --> 0:38:41.450
<v Speaker 5>And I also love that you're actually considering the question.

0:38:41.710 --> 0:38:42.350
<v Speaker 4>Oh, should I not?

0:38:42.570 --> 0:38:45.969
<v Speaker 5>No, I genuinely love it. That wasn't sarcasm. I hope

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't read the sarcasm.

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<v Speaker 4>One word is really hard.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what? We'll allow it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it is truly a confessional, a confession.

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<v Speaker 7>It's also like a form of ritual for me at

0:38:59.020 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 7>this point, a ritualistic experience, ceremony, community, the importance.

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<v Speaker 4>Of family and having a community.

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<v Speaker 5>Right before we started, me, you, and Stu were talking

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<v Speaker 5>about the difference between just confessing and the act of contrition,

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<v Speaker 5>which is something I learned from you, by the way,

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<v Speaker 5>because I didn't grow up around any Catholics.

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<v Speaker 4>Poor thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I learned that the act of contrition is not just confessing,

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<v Speaker 5>but trying to create a path and a statement that

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<v Speaker 5>I will do better in the past. Is confession to

0:39:37.980 --> 0:39:39.820
<v Speaker 5>some form of an act of contrition for you, or

0:39:40.219 --> 0:39:42.629
<v Speaker 5>is it just another confession for you to just get

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<v Speaker 5>it off your chest and keep living your life?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I would never define this record as just another confession.

0:39:48.870 --> 0:39:51.870
<v Speaker 7>writing a song about my brother who literally died the

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<v Speaker 7>week before I wrote it is not just a confession.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, my, the song that I wrote about my

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<v Speaker 7>stepmother also dying like two weeks or one week after,

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<v Speaker 7>before my brother.

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<v Speaker 4>Like all these.

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<v Speaker 7>Influential people that changed my life forever, dying and then

0:40:12.430 --> 0:40:16.370
<v Speaker 7>dealing with it, writing about it and having that cathartic experience,

0:40:16.690 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 7>healing as Lois said. Yep. And then finally writing a

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 7>song with Lola and dealing with all of our issues

0:40:24.460 --> 0:40:28.779
<v Speaker 7>and confronting things and being super vulnerable and honest with

0:40:28.820 --> 0:40:31.980
<v Speaker 7>each other that, you know, those are important moments.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say they're just confessions.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe a good word could be vulnerability too, because it is,

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<v Speaker 5>it sounds incredibly vulnerable. Yeah. Which you've been vulnerable with

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<v Speaker 5>us for four decades now, giving, giving pounds and pounds

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<v Speaker 5>of flesh.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, somebody interviewed me recently and they said, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you've never explained yours. You haven't made yourself vulnerable in

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<v Speaker 7>your music until now.

0:40:59.770 --> 0:41:00.830
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, what?

0:41:01.090 --> 0:41:02.050
<v Speaker 5>That's a crazy statement.

0:41:02.110 --> 0:41:03.890
<v Speaker 7>You haven't been listening to my music.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Maybe they just joined the party. Yeah, maybe.

0:41:06.980 --> 0:41:07.100
<v Speaker 7>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, listen, thank you so much, Madonna. Thank you, Stuart Price.

0:41:10.580 --> 0:41:13.030
<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Lola. And thank you all fans at home

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:17.189
<v Speaker 5>listening on iHeartRadio and on the iHeartRadio app and also

0:41:17.250 --> 0:41:19.589
<v Speaker 5>watching on TikTok Live. Of course, my name is Bob

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<v Speaker 5>the Drag Queen. I am joined by, I have been

0:41:22.850 --> 0:41:25.970
<v Speaker 5>joined by the amazing Madonna, Stuart Price, and Lola. And

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<v Speaker 5>we have a party to get to.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we do.

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<v Speaker 5>Good night, everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Toodle-oo.

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