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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House to works dot Com. Hey, and welcome the podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Milly and I'm Kristen what christ And I

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Speaker 1: think I'm making uncomfortable by saying poop. Not uncomfortable, just confused.

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Speaker 1: So why are you saying poop like that? We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about poop, lady poop, And I think that the

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Speaker 1: idea of poop and ladies together makes people really uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Well enough with ladies were let's call it women. So

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought I would just say poop a

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Speaker 1: bunch of times. People can adjust to their uncomfortable nous, yes,

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Speaker 1: or discomfort would be a better way to say that.

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Speaker 1: And let's get on with this topic because people like

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Speaker 1: to believe that women don't poop. Yeah, poop yeah. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, you know, if you guys would like

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Speaker 1: to commence with a drinking game right now, just do

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Speaker 1: a poop drinking game, because we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: poop a lot poop, poop, poop, poo, and cently Molly

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Speaker 1: says it like a hoodel uh. Yeah, I think it's time.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about periods, We've talked about semen, we've talked

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Speaker 1: about all sorts of things. But one thing we haven't

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Speaker 1: talked about Molly's poop. Poop. It's high time to talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Women poop too, but women are really uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: about it. We were talking before we came in here

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Speaker 1: about what's known as the bathroom showdown. Yes, here at

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Speaker 1: the House Stuff Works office. And I hope this really

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Speaker 1: isn't divulging too much information, because I think this happens

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Speaker 1: at offices all across the US of A and Canada

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Speaker 1: and Canada, uh and beyond. There's a thing with pooping

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Speaker 1: in private and the women's bathroom. Like if you go

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Speaker 1: and there is no sound coming from that stall, and

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Speaker 1: it is obvious that one of your female coworkers is

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Speaker 1: waiting for some privacy. Yeah, we can't poop around each

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Speaker 1: other because then they might. Then you might let out

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Speaker 1: a fart, there might be some awkward splashing sounds, and

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Speaker 1: of course the telltale smell. Because no one wants to

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Speaker 1: be that person in the bathroom, the office bathroom. Who

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Speaker 1: makes the poop just in time for another coworker to

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Speaker 1: walk in and smell? Ever gone awful things just came

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no hiding it. It's really embarrassing. You

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Speaker 1: know what I dislike is if someone right before you

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Speaker 1: sees you walking out, you want to be like, that

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Speaker 1: wasn't me. I have I may or may not have

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Speaker 1: in my lifetime at some point, not in the office,

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Speaker 1: totally done the preemptive blame game, like walked out of

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Speaker 1: a single single use beat them like whoa someone before me? Man? Really, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about my own poop. Let's move on. It's just,

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Speaker 1: you know, we think it's unladylike. Women are supposed to

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Speaker 1: poop roses and unicorns. Yea, I wish, and they don't.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about what poop should actually be

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Speaker 1: because you know what, KRISTI apparently has a real hang

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Speaker 1: up on smell. But if it smells, that just means

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Speaker 1: that your gut is working the way it's supposed to. Yes,

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Speaker 1: something that that women do. On average, people go once

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Speaker 1: just you know, everyone everyone poops differently. There is no

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Speaker 1: about when things get get backed up. Well, let's let's

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Speaker 1: that's interested in women's issues is that it can really

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Speaker 1: which really reek havoc on your poop. Yes. Prostag Landings

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