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Speaker 1: I was excited when Pop was the first one to

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Speaker 1: play for Pop. You know what I'm saying. Never got

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Speaker 1: that chance. But just tell me how was that playing

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah? I mean that year was like going to

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Speaker 2: basketball college. Man. Like you know that training camp it was.

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Speaker 3: They had, you know a lot of the fire coaches

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Speaker 2: Would just sit and watch practice take notes.

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Speaker 3: It's like I remember Tims was down there and Negro

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Speaker 2: It's coaches. So it's literally like basketball.

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Speaker 3: It was like basketball schooling there, bro Like they got

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Speaker 3: whiteboards everywhere and instructions and this regimen you know, doing

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Speaker 2: But it was it was great. It was great basketball, uh,

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Speaker 3: You know, I was a Spurs fan when I was younger,

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Speaker 3: And then you know when you're you know, you're competing

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Speaker 3: to just you know, plug and play for like five

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Speaker 3: so we it was something I wanted the experience and

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Speaker 4: He said it was like basketball school.

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Speaker 1: I dont trust me. Bro was so excited. Ye but

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to side say that Todeo to play for

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Speaker 1: Pop my first year yea. Literally, that's all I wanted

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Speaker 4: When you said that, it reminded me of when I

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Speaker 4: played in Memphis with Hube Brown. That's how I felt

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Speaker 4: it sounded like that was because the structure, the basically

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Speaker 4: the set up all the coaches came because you in

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Speaker 4: thirty minutes, you learn more about the basketball game than

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Speaker 4: most people forget, you know what I mean. Like that's

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Speaker 4: that's how they are. They're just their geniuses when it

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Speaker 1: So you say, you've been coaching at AAU circuit man

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Speaker 1: talking about the road, you're one of those guys that, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we don't hear much about you, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but obviously we know what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Sonny tells me what you're doing, and I hear about it,

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Speaker 1: but overall, you know what I'm saying, people don't hear.

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Speaker 1: So just talk about what you're doing now, the impact

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Speaker 3: So, uh, you know, I played for Going to Road

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Speaker 3: when I first moved to North Carolina back in ninety six.

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Speaker 1: Say it again, Keyler, because you said what you said,

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Speaker 1: got a road.

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Speaker 2: Gotta road. I know what you know about it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so the agent, So the agent know about

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Speaker 3: It's a special place, man, And I played there and

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Speaker 2: Ask Kyle, he'll tell he was nine years old and.

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Speaker 1: I saw, wait a minute, which Cale Anderson? We talk

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Speaker 1: about Slobo real. It was nine years old.

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Speaker 3: I met Slow Moo yes in Coco Beaks, Florida, I believe,

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Speaker 3: and in the trip because was in uh great in

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I remember that. And I saw

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Speaker 3: I saw a lot of kids because I was actually

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Speaker 3: I was just fascinated going to the games. It was

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Speaker 3: a great way to like learn the game, see the

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Speaker 3: nephew was playing. My brother's coaching, like, I started developing

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Speaker 3: relationships with you know, some of the kids. I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 3: like you really got a shot. So I would just

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Speaker 3: start working with him. My brother started letting me work

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Speaker 3: the practices. So I'm literally getting drills from the NBA

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Speaker 3: and coming here and working with the kids. And then

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Speaker 3: I met TJ. Warren at like eleven, and then I

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Speaker 3: I started just like you know, working with that group

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Speaker 3: you know, we got a really good strong legacy. You

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Speaker 3: know that it's like our thirty fifth year of being

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It's just a way for me to stay connected with

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 3: I love coaching and working with young people. Partly is

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Speaker 3: you know, when I was in college coach process he

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Speaker 3: you know, run plays, and so he really held us

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Speaker 3: in ever since. It's a great way to stay around

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Speaker 3: the game, stay active, be in the gym with the kids,

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Speaker 3: you know, and just again pour out what I what

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Speaker 3: I've learned over these years, and try to help him

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Speaker 4: Just so you know, I haven't watched his AU program

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Speaker 4: playing a couple of years, but they played just like

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Speaker 4: you think they would if they're from him. Hell yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they got that.

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Speaker 2: They got that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean It's crazy because when you said Cayle Anderson,

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Speaker 1: I had to make sure we was talking about the

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Speaker 1: same call because I thought all this was the same age.

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Speaker 4: Coles move like, I thought the same age college.

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Speaker 1: No, he's a good dude too.

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Speaker 1: He's with the Heat right now, and since he's been

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Speaker 2: Being a good guy in the locker room. He's one

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