1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Welcome into a week seven Giants Hangout, brought to you 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: by Cres John. My name is Madeline Burke, joined by 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Russ Salzburg and Matt Siitek. Guys, Giants, coming off a 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: tough one on Sunday night football, fall into the Bengals 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: seventeen to seven. They were already without Malik Neighbors, they 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: were already without Devin Single, Terry keve On Thibodeaux, who 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: just had risk surgery, was out, and then of course, 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: left tackle Andrew Thomas goes down with a foot injury. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Uncertain how long that that injury is going to take 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: him out of the game. But you look at this 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: moving forward. This is the Giants offensive line that's played 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 1: every snap together this season now taking a big hit. 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: Russ, Well, listen, you're talking about, you know, arguably when 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: they talk about the best player on the team, a 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: lot of times they talk about Andrew Thomas. But you know, 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: it's got to be next man up. If that's the case, 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm assuming it would be Josh Zudu. But you know, 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: we'll find out more. I'm sure the Giants will, you know, 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: tell us more later. But listen, offense has to improve, 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's not a secret that they 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: First of all, you need to score touchdowns, especially when 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: you're at home. You need to get the job done. 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: But the other thing that con as I was sitting 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: in the in the press box watching the game yesterday, 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: you know, Sunday night, it was bothering me that we 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 2: have talent. The Giants have talent at the receiving situation. 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: But the one thing that bothers me, this is the 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: National Football League. It is not high school, it is 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: not college. We know, no, Daniel might not have had 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: a perfect game. We would all agree with that. However, 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: you got to help your quarterback out. We have too 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: many drop passes across the board. And you know, again 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: it's the NFL. If you can touch a ball, go 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: make the play. And we just missed too many chances 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: to make a play. And that doesn't help out your situation, 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: for your quarterback and your offense. I think that's a 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: major thing that needs to improve on, and sometimes it's 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: not spoken about enough. We've got talent there, whether it's Slayton, 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: whether it's Wan Dell, whether it's Hyatt. And we know, Malik, 40 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: I gotta say this, we didn't miss miss Malik in Seattle, 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: but we sure as heck missed them last weekend. I mean, 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 2: Malik is one of those guys that can make those 43 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: kind of plays. So that's what we need to see 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: across the board. 45 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just you know, first in terms of Thomas, 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: I mean Russ mentioned it. It's got to be the 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: next man up. And Madeline you talked about or you 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: mentioned some of the other guys that have missed time 49 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: over these last two weeks, between Malik, Neighbors, Devin Singletary, 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: Kevon Thibodeaux. 51 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: Well, over the last two games, we saw. 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: Azeezo Julari step in for Kaveon Thibodeau have his best 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: game in years on Sunday Night against the Bengals. We've 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: seen Tyrone Tracy step up for Devin Singletary and in 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 3: Seattle had a breakout game, and even against the Bengals thrived, 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: you know, match Terrus for the team lead as in 57 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: receptions and receiving yards and with the league Neighbors. Two 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: weeks ago against the Seahawks, Darius Slayton went off for. 59 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: His best game in years. 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: So we've seen guys on this team step up for 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: the injured starter and thrive, and that's what the Giants 62 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: are gonna need, you know, for however long Andrew Thomas 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: is out and we as as Russ mentioned, we don't 64 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: know if it's gonna be josh Josh a Zudu necessarily 65 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: stepping in a left tackle, you know, Jermaine Alumin or 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: maybe moving from right to left tackle and then Evan 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: Neil coming and we don't know yet. But whoever it 68 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: is that takes over in that open spot on the 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: offense line needs to step up and you know, perform 70 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: like we've seen some of these other reserve players step 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: in and it step into the starting lineup and thrive 72 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: over the. 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: Last two weeks. 74 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: And you know, if it is whoever it is at 75 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: left tackle or right tackle, I think one thing that 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: the Giants can do just to sort of help that 77 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: player is, you know, maybe keep a tight end in 78 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: to give a little chip block before going and running 79 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: a route, have running backs sort of chip the edge 80 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: rushers from the Philadelphia Eagles before going out. There are 81 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: things that they can do to sort of You're not 82 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: gonna just necessarily replace Andrew Thomas. 83 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: No, you're not going to replace Andrew Thomas. Add in 84 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: itself is a problem in itself. You're not replacing him. 85 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: You can't replace him. 86 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: He's one of the best tackles in the entire NFL, 87 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 3: and you just whoever comes in is not going to 88 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: play quite up to the level, the all pro level 89 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: that we've seen Andrew Thomas play at. But that doesn't 90 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: necessarily mean that the offense is gonna, you know, just 91 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: crumble without him. There are ways that they can patch 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: things together and still get by and still be able 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: to run this offense productively even if Thomas is out 94 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: for however long he might be out. 95 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: For right and we've seen kind of the benefit of 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: having an offensive line in which all five players have 97 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: been playing together consistently for six games and the comfort 98 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: that comes with that for the quarterback position, like you said, 99 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: gott to be next man up, and we saw that 100 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: on defense, Keevon Thibodeau goes out, has a risk surgery, 101 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: a Zizo Jalari has to step in. It's given the 102 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: opportunity rises to the occasion. Has six pressures and two 103 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: sacks according to PFF. His six pressures were tied for 104 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: third amongst edge defenders in Week six. Two sacks tied 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: for second Giants defense has been good. The Giants defense 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: did enough to win the game on Sunday night. They 107 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: put pressure on Joe Burrow, they got to the quarterback. 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: They have been a solid unit. And if this Giants 109 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: defense can continue that going into Week seven against you know, 110 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback like Jalen Hurts who has been known to 111 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: turn over the ball. I mean this season alone, he's 112 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: thrown four interceptions, five fumbles in five games. You know, 113 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: you look at the way that the defense is playing 114 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: and the opportunity here to capitalize on that. This defense 115 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: really helped this Giants offense kind of get an opportunity. 116 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean, realistically, the Giants offense has to score, but 117 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: the way the defense has been playing has been significant. 118 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: No listen, Dave said it right after the game. You 119 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: hold them down. I mean basically, they had one touchdown 120 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: until the last two minutes of the game. 121 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 1: And that one touchdown was a Joe Burrow ridiculous run. 122 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up because as much as 123 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: and kudos to the to the defense, the way it's played, 124 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: and you mentioned Aziz Jalari, that might have been his 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: best game as a Giant, that's how good he was, 126 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: and especially coming in to stand in for Kavon, but Madaline, 127 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: you brought that up. So as great as the defense was, 128 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: two plays, I'm going to talk about two plays. One 129 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: was the Joe Burrow a play third and eighteen. Third 130 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: and eighteen and Joe Burrow is running down the field 131 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: like he's running to a wide open pasture, you know, 132 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: just running by himself. That was one play. You can't 133 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: have that happen. And listen, we've seen the Giants have 134 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: bad starts. That was a bad start. We saw him 135 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: with a bad start against Seattle, and we saw him 136 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: with the bad start against the Cleveland Rowns. Fortunately, the 137 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: Giants won those two games. So that was third and eighteen. 138 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: And then let's fast forward to the end of the game. 139 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: And believe me, it's hard to knock the defense because they 140 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: played so well. But at the end of the game, 141 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: when it's ten to seven, and I believe it was 142 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: two minutes and twelve seconds left in the game, since 143 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: he has the ball third and twelve on their own 144 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: thirty four and they complete a twenty nine yard catch 145 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: that ice the game. They didn't have to score that touchdown. 146 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: That ice the game. When you have that you can't 147 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: allow those big plays to break you back. We don't 148 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: come up with enough of those big plays, both on 149 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: offense and defense. That's what the Giants need to do, 150 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: make those big plays when they must be made. 151 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I just want to know one thing. 152 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: On that third down play that Russ just you just mentioned, 153 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: I will say that there was a very questionable no 154 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: call on Brian Burns where he was looked like he 155 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: was sure getting held by the offensive lineman. 156 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: As Joe Burrow started breaking after time. 157 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: Okay, and if that plag then. 158 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: Then things could look a lot different. But I do 159 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: get your point, like it is a good point. But 160 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: and you mentioned some of I guess the Again, the 161 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: defense played great, So I don't want to say, you know, 162 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 3: the negatives but the bad plays that occurred on Sunday Night. 163 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: I just want to focus a little bit on the 164 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: good that the. 165 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: Defense did against the Bengals, because they definitely deserve a 166 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: ton of credit for keeping the Giants in that game 167 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: for as long as they did so. Going into Sunday 168 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: Night Football, the Bengals in their last the previous three 169 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: games had scored thirty three points at least in each 170 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: of those contests, they had an average of four hundred 171 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: and seventeen total yards of offense and no less than 172 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: twenty three first downs. Those are three games going into 173 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: the Sunday Night Football. The Giants held them to seventeen points, 174 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: three hundred and four total yards of offense, and only 175 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: thirteen first downs, all of which were their lowest marks 176 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: since their Week one loss to the New England Patriots, 177 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: a game that the Bengals have talked about is sort 178 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 3: of like their throwaway game. Joe Burrow came into Sunday 179 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: Night Football with four consecutive games with multiple touchdown passes, 180 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 3: twelve total touchdowns in that four game stretch and an 181 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: averaging over three hundred passing yards and a one to 182 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: seventeen passer rating. While the Giants held them Burrow to 183 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: sixty seven point nine percent of his passes completed, only 184 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: two hundred eight yards, and zero touchdowns eighty nine point 185 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: six passer rating, again, all of which were the lowest 186 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: since Week one. 187 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: And the Bengals. 188 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: Too that that that opening drive, that first touchdown and 189 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: Joe ran it was a one play of busted coverage 190 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: type of a situation. So it's not like these you know, 191 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: they were eaten in a way. It was like, oh, 192 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: here's a moment of bust coverage and then a late game, 193 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: garbage time touchdown. 194 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: Right. Well, yeah, no, listen that I nobody's disputing how 195 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: great they played. But we could talk about the statistics 196 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: till we're blue in the face. The bottom line is, 197 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: as Matt Matdelan just said, one at the beginning, one 198 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: at the end, and those two plays stick out because 199 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: those were the plays that ended up when you do 200 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: the math, that's what's what buried you. 201 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: But those plays, the Giants defense did a really great job, 202 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: and overall it was a really great performance, but for 203 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: those two play, overall, the. 204 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: Defense played at a level where the Giants should have 205 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: won that game as well. 206 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get you, but you know what, as you say, 207 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: would should have, could have doesn't get it done. Overall, 208 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: the Giants could have, would have, should have won that game, 209 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: but they didn't. And all I'm saying is right, we 210 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: have to make sure if the other team is making 211 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: those big plays, the New York Football Giants have to 212 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: make those big plays to prevent what happened last Sunday 213 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: from happening again. That's all I'm saying. 214 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: That's fair, that's for sure. 215 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 3: There's no argument here. It's just the defense only plays 216 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: on one side of the ball. They can't control what 217 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: the offense does. And so all I want to do 218 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: is just give some kudos to the defense, because Sunday 219 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: night was, you know, a primetime game in front of 220 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: the national had the national spotlight on them, and the 221 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: defense came to play and they stepped up and they 222 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: performed at a level that the Giants could I don't 223 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: want to should have, could have, would have, but they 224 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: could have won the game with the way that the 225 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: defense played, and it sort of just highlights how great 226 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: that unit has been playing since Week one. I mean 227 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: they have literally they have become now a top ten 228 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: defense in almost every single important metric in terms of 229 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: points allowed, yards allowed, red zone defense. I mean they 230 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: are in the top ten and just about every single 231 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: key defensive metric. And so if the defense can continue 232 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 3: to perform at that level, which I get that might 233 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: be a big if because they've been playing so lights out. 234 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: If they can continue playing at that level, it will 235 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: keep the Giants in games and give them more opportunities 236 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: to win games as we move forward in the season. 237 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: Well and the defense has been playing well, like you 238 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: mentioned in all these stat the metrics, leading the league 239 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: in sacks, Dexter Lawrence second most sacks in the league 240 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: seven through six weeks, getting pressure on the quarterback. But offensively, 241 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: we've talked about it. We want to see a spark. 242 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: There might be a spark. We will see as we progresses. 243 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: What Molik Neighbors' status is, if he is clear to return, 244 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: What Devin Singletary status is. Neighbors of course coming back 245 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: from a concussion, Singletary dealing with a groin injury. You know, 246 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: if and when Singletary does get back on the field, 247 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: it'll be great to have that kind of two headed 248 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: monster of Singletary and Tyrone Tracy, who has been a decisive, 249 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: effective runner. And we see this trend across the league, Matt, 250 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure you could talk to this is that, you 251 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: know a lot of teams have found success with a 252 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: running back by committee, more so than just one one 253 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: power back. 254 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. 255 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 3: I mean you see some of the best, some of 256 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: the best rushing attacks across the NFL feature two guys 257 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: as well as a quarterback that can run, which we 258 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: all know Daniel Jones can obviously run with the football. 259 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 3: He was the Giants leading rusher on Sunday Night against 260 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: the Bengals, averaging over five yards per Carrie. So yeah, 261 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: if obviously Devin Singletary returns as great as Tyrone Tracy 262 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: has played, it's not just going to become the Tyrone 263 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: Tracy show. Devin Singletary has gained the trust of this 264 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: coaching staff, Brian Dable, Joe Shane bro Devin Singletary in 265 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 3: after being in Buffalo with him for numerous years. So yeah, 266 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: Devin Singletary is gonna certainly have a role. I don't 267 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 3: know what the split might be between Devin Singletary and 268 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 3: Tyrone Tracy. I think Tyrone Tracy over the last two 269 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: weeks has certainly earned himself some you know, some amount 270 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: of touches in the on the offense. 271 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: He earned himself some role. 272 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he was as I mentioned earlier, he was 273 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: the Giants' leading receiver on Sunday Night. He tied with 274 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: Darius Slaydon six receptions for fifty seven yards. The guy 275 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: is a former wide receiver converted into a running back, 276 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: and we've seen it over the this past week and 277 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: then the week before that. 278 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: He had Tyrone Tracy had. 279 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: No action in the passing game really, but thrived as 280 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: a rusher. 281 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: So he's shown that he can do both and he's 282 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: shown that he can be explosive. 283 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: I mean, both of these running backs have done a 284 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: tremendous job of forcing mistackles before getting hurt. Devin Singletary 285 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: led all running backs and misstackles forced, and now Tyron 286 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: Tracy over the last two weeks, I think he has 287 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: had eight or nine miss tackles force, which if he 288 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: had that pace for the whole season, would put him 289 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: right up there among the leaders as well. So yeah, 290 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: having Devin Singletary return and mixing him and Tyrone Tracy 291 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: throughout the game, that should add another element to this 292 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: offense that's going to, you know, really help this unit 293 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: moving forward, and. 294 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: Another element to the running game on Sunday that is 295 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: going to have a lot of headlines around it, because 296 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: we've made it this far without mentioning that. Sunday Week 297 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: seven Giants hosting the Philadelphia Eagles, Welcome back to MetLife, 298 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. The first time we're going to see Saquon 299 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: in green in this building. It's going to be a 300 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: weird day. For him going to the visitors locker room 301 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: coming out the other tunnel. But I'm sure for Giants 302 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: fans too, it's going to be a little bit of 303 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: a oh wow, this is this is a moment, Russ. 304 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: Well, not just for Giant fans, but also for the Giants. 305 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: You know, we've been talking about Devin Singletary and we've 306 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: been talking about Tyrone Tracy. And you know I mentioned 307 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: to you last week, Madeline, when we were talking about it, 308 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: I use an old boxing expression in the fight game, 309 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: when you punch, you need to punch, you need to 310 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: hit with bad intentions. And I find that Tyron and 311 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: Tracy runs that way. He runs with bad intentions. He 312 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: wants to make something happen, and you know, taking it 313 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: to the next level. I'm sure you know, whether they're 314 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: gonna say it or not, everybody's gonna say the same thing. Well, yeah, 315 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: you know, now he's an opponent. We have to go 316 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: against him. And you know, the offense is not playing 317 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: against Tyron Tracy and Devin Singletary on facing They're not 318 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: gonna be facing Saquon on the field, but they're gonna 319 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: be motivated. Okay, we replaced this guy. They're gonna be 320 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: motivated and let's see what that motivation can do. Yeah, 321 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: it's gonna make for a very interesting game for a 322 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: couple of reasons. One, both teams need to win the game, okay, 323 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: and the Giants certainly need to win the game. They 324 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: need to do something at home to get the fans 325 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: revved up. It just so happens that Saquon is coming in, 326 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: so that just adds to what the need is. 327 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, this past Sunday obviously to a 328 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: much lesser degree, but we kind of saw a former 329 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: Giant have his revenge game against the Giants in the 330 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: form of BJ Hill, who I know it's been a 331 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: few years since he's been here, but the way he 332 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: played Sunday night, it was clear that he was very 333 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: motivated in his return to MetLife Stadium, at least to 334 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: face off against the Giants. He had a tremendous game, 335 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: was all over the field. And that's bj Hill. And 336 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: BJ Hill is a great player, but he's not Saquon Barkley. 337 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: So Saquon Barkley is certainly going to come into this 338 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: matchup motivated and fired up. I mean, especially considering he's 339 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: coming off his worst game of the season. Last week 340 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: against the Browns, he struggled and it was the first 341 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 3: time that we really saw him struggle as part of 342 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: this Eagles offense. So he's definitely going to come out 343 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: with his hair on fire, looking to make a huge impact, 344 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: and the Giants defense is gonna have to be ready 345 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 3: for him. I mean, I spoke before about how great 346 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: the defense has been playing, and the Bengals offense again 347 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: had been playing like one of the best in the league. 348 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: But the Giants defense historically, at least in recent years, 349 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: has set trouble slowing down this Eagles offense. With Jalen 350 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: Hurts at the helm, and the Eagles are now healthy 351 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: with DeVante Smith aj Brown both back at wide receiver Saquon. 352 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 4: They have Dallas Goddard and tight end. This is going 353 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 4: to be. 354 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: Another very tough challenge for the Giants defense and it 355 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: starts with slowing down Saquon right well. 356 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: And also you mentioned though that the Giants have struggled 357 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: defensively to slow down this Eagles offense. But again, like 358 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier on in this show, Jalen Hurts's turnover 359 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: issues could be something this Giants defense. The way that 360 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: they're playing this season really feeds off of again, Hurts 361 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: thrown four interceptions, five fumbles in the last five games. 362 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: The pressure that the Giants defense has been able to 363 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: put on opposing quarterbacks, combined with the way in which 364 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: they have played been playing overall, I feel like this 365 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: is something that if the defense capitalizes on, it gives 366 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: the offense a short field and perhaps the offense is 367 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: able to convert there. This could be a different kind 368 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: of ballgame. 369 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: I like what you just said, Mattelan, And to me, 370 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: that's very important given the offense a short field that 371 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: I think will help the situation as well. And you know, 372 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: we've been talking about how great the defense is. I mean, 373 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence is playing like he might be the defensive 374 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: player of the Year in the NFL if this keeps up. 375 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: I mean he has just been what we say, seven 376 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: sacks thus far. I mean, you know, listen, we know 377 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: how good the defense has been playing. They just have 378 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: to keep it up. And again, you know, everybody both 379 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: on offense, the Giants need to make the big play, 380 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: the really big play when they need it, and on 381 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: defense they have to make sure they come up with 382 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: the big play when they need it. Has to get done. 383 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: You know, there's you know when you when we talk 384 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: about metrics, h Matt, you were talking about metrics. The 385 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: bottom line metric is the Giants are now two and four. 386 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: They have to improve on that. You know, there's still 387 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: in there's still in this to win the division. But 388 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: you know, again could it would it should it doesn't 389 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: get it done. They have to get it done this week. 390 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: It's a must to get it done this week for 391 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 2: two reasons. They need a win and it's also it 392 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: needs to be a division win. So go get the 393 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: job done, both offensively and defensively. 394 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're one hundred percent right there. The Giants, 395 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: despite their two and four record, they're only two games 396 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 3: out of the division and this seems like the most 397 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: wide open the division has been in years. 398 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: There's no like clear cut favorite right now. 399 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: It's gonna be very tough though, for the Giants to 400 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: win the division if they do lose this game, because 401 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: if they lose this game, not only does their record 402 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: drop to two and five, but their divisional record drops 403 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: to zero to three, and it's gonna be very hard 404 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: to climb out of that hole. So you're one hundred 405 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: percent right Ross they this is as close to a 406 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: must win game as you're gonna get in Week seven, 407 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: and I think one of the biggest keys to this game, 408 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: which I feel like this has been a theme just 409 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 3: about every single week for the Giants, but it's I 410 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 3: think the biggest key is gonna be performance in the red. 411 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 4: Zone, and that goes on both sides of the ball. 412 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: The Giants offense has not been great in the red zone. 413 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: They rank I. 414 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: Think somewhere like twenty fourth or twenty fifth in the 415 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: league in red zone offense. On the flip side, as 416 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier, they have the seventh best red zone defense. 417 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: Now the Eagles are coming in with very very similar numbers. 418 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: I think they the Giants and Eagles rank next to 419 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: each other in both red zone offense and defense, so 420 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 3: they have had similar strengths and weaknesses, so to say, 421 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: through the first few weeks of the season. So stopping 422 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: the Eagles when they get to the red zone and 423 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 3: capitalizing when the Giants offense when they get inside the 424 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: twenty yard line is gonna be probably the biggest key 425 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: to getting a win on Sunday. 426 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and we're going to continue to monitor the injuries 427 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: and everything as the game gets closer. But Week seven, 428 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 1: grab the popcorn. The Eagles coming to MetLife Stadium Giants 429 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Eagles is a one pm kickoff. We'll be there, we'll 430 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: be monitoring it all, and we'll be keeping up with 431 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: the latest on Giants dot com uh for the injuries 432 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: and whatnot as the storylines continue to unfold. But that's 433 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: a wrap for our Week seven Giants Hanging Out brought 434 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: to you by Crestron for Rus Salzburg and Matt sitek 435 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: On Madeline Burke. Thanks so much for hanging out with us. 436 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.