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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast needs to take a vacation.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, welcome to another edition at the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and

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Speaker 1: I am joined in the room filled with heroes Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling to my left, Rank Rosenthal to my right. What's

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Speaker 1: up hey, Dan, boys, and a very special guest, as

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Speaker 1: teased on Monday's show, her first time here in studio

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Speaker 1: sixty six, NFL Networks own m J Acosta. Welcome. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think I was going to make it. Well,

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Speaker 1: what a journey it's been. We're taping this um one

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Speaker 1: of the latest shows we've ever done on a non

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Speaker 1: football playing night, probably the latest. This is history. But

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Speaker 1: that's how badly wanted to Acosta in the studio. That's

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Speaker 1: I mean, thank you. You already teased its Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: were kind of locked in. It's next level. Professional hasn't

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Speaker 1: all in. And let's also m J delayed fight comes

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Speaker 1: straight here and she's dealing with airports stuff. Your most

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Speaker 1: recent tweet as of this taping, I will never understand

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Speaker 1: people who yell at a gate agent because the flight

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Speaker 1: is delayed. What exactly do you think your temper tantrum

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Speaker 1: will do to help the situation? Hashtag rude uh frowny face.

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Speaker 1: There was a literal three year old right next to him,

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Speaker 1: She probably didn't even know that the flight was delayed.

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Speaker 1: This is good though, because usually, again as someone that

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Speaker 1: Twitter Greg like people tweeting, Hey, United, you really screwed

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Speaker 1: that's not what I'm let everyone else know. You're proud

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Speaker 1: that will M Day is more putting people on blasts

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Speaker 1: that are just inappropriate. There was no reason this poor

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Speaker 1: he walked away and she's like, I'm sorry you're having

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Speaker 1: for me if you're dating someone they are rude. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how they treat service people is is the number one.

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Speaker 1: That is what's that. It is absolutely magnific. And my

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Speaker 1: what grinds my gears the most as I'm a father

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Speaker 1: I've been on the other side of it that you're

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Speaker 1: And then I still people on Twitter always without kids.

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Speaker 1: Of course to this day, they're like, oh, I hate

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Speaker 1: That's the truth. M J Acosta in the House, m J.

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Speaker 1: You have a great backstory. Uh, We're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: a lot including that. We're gonna get what are we

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Speaker 1: gonna doing today, m J. NFL Network about a year now,

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Speaker 1: almost almost a year. Man. Yeah, so you cover the

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Speaker 1: Bay Area teams, the Niners and the Raiders. Other stuff too,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna ask the big questions about Bay Area football.

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Speaker 1: And I'm holding in my left handed old school NFL helmet.

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Speaker 1: We've all written questions about the Raiders and about the Niners.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I just learned this by the way, that

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Speaker 1: you drop it. On June, Emory was people. Emery was

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Speaker 1: but I just figured like, I probably wouldn't even get into.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even if you got in, maybe you'd be

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Speaker 1: involved with this project which they ranked the teams, and uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see who is the top five? Number one, the

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Speaker 1: teams that are always on TV Cowboys number two, Patriots

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Speaker 1: number three, Eagles, number four, Giants, number five, Steelers. Those

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Speaker 1: are the top five. Anybody's surprised by those? Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you why it was specifically the most popular. This

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Speaker 1: is these this is what they used to figure it

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Speaker 1: out best fan basis. Here's the algorithm. I got the

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Speaker 1: algorithm for you coming up right now, if I can

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Speaker 1: find out here it is UH. The approach UH uses

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Speaker 1: data on attendance revenues, social media following, and road attendance

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Speaker 1: to develop statistical models of fan interest. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: it's first helpful to realize that this is a professional

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Speaker 1: professor of marketing, so he's putting a lot more stock

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Speaker 1: in marketing than just about anything else. It's a little

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Speaker 1: too close to Darren Ravel for me, but um, he's

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Speaker 1: definitely going with volume over rate and quantity over quality.

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Speaker 1: The keys that The models are used to determine which

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Speaker 1: cities fans are more willing to spend or follow their

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Speaker 1: teams after controlling for factors like market size and short

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Speaker 1: term changes and winning and losing. So I gave you

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Speaker 1: the top five. The bottom. I mean, I think to

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Speaker 1: Erica Tampost is an example of why the Patriots have

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Speaker 1: you know, ranked so highly here. I think they deserve it. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of winning, a lot of titles

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Speaker 1: in that group. I mean they showed up. I mean

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Speaker 1: that was that was in the super Bowl last year.

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Speaker 1: They're dominating. You can figure out, Okay, They've been a

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Speaker 1: lot of Super Bowls. That was like a home game

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots. I went to college in Boston in

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Speaker 1: the turn of the UM two thousands, and that was

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Speaker 1: the fourth most popular pro sports franchise in that city,

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Speaker 1: behind the Red Sox, the Celtics, and the Bruins. And

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm not angry about it. But that just

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Speaker 1: shows you how how how you build old as a

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Speaker 1: fan base through winning like that was not a great

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Speaker 1: fan base. It wasn't. Now it is. Congratulations. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what happens we don't win every year, Ricky, I mean

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Speaker 1: I was watching when they weren't winning anyways back then.

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Speaker 1: Because some people are just football fans, is it great?

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Speaker 1: Do you get more bandwagon fans? Yeah? Of course, experience

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Speaker 1: get you. The ranking of the fan base of the

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Speaker 1: Patriots in New England, I don't know. Yikes, that's fired

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Speaker 1: the bottom five by the way. Uh, let's see Bengals, Jaguars, Titans,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and Rams. Now the Chiefs. How the Chiefs set

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Speaker 1: up down there? But I can't, I can't, Arrowhead and

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Speaker 1: it is insane. That is a bad on Twitter though.

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Speaker 1: I guess yeah, they don't. They only have one beat writer.

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Speaker 1: Leave them alone. That's crazy. I mean the Browns, the

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Speaker 1: Browns were just out of that bottom five to one

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Speaker 1: above it they would have been. And the Chiefs, I mean,

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Speaker 1: those are as loyal as loyal fan bases as you

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Speaker 1: can possibly find, despite not a lot of success. How

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Speaker 1: about this, um m J. I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: you in trouble with you know up there north of US,

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Speaker 1: but Raiders Niners? You know who's got the better fan base? Uh?

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Speaker 1: The more colorful, vivid, greater nation. Without question, they're insane.

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Speaker 1: You'all have been to a game policy obviously, I don't

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Speaker 1: have to tell you. It's a different world. They run

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Speaker 1: favored and having covered teams in so Cal for several years,

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Speaker 1: anytime any other team plays Raiders, it's like, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: no other fan base. You could say, hey, we're leaving

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Speaker 1: you again, but we're just gonna like hang out for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years and then leave you the other places.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you try to do that in Boston with

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Speaker 1: supposedly it would be like it is screw you. And

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Speaker 1: the Raiders have been bad forever now, I mean they have.

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Speaker 1: They have been a couple of you know, right spots.

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Speaker 1: But the fans, they support him, they support full garb.

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Speaker 1: What do they get, team moves loyal, they moved to

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Speaker 1: a desert. The Chiefs thing is that's prepositi. Yeah, come on,

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Speaker 1: Emory University, a lot of your magnifico whoa, well this

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Speaker 1: we're coming for you this particular Okay, that's what's happening

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Speaker 1: in the news. Professor Lewis take it up with him,

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Speaker 1: I didn't apply Emory doctor huge bullet there. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go, let's get into it. M j Acosta

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Speaker 1: in the house. Oh that's the other advice I would

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Speaker 1: give if you're going into sports because you're bilingual, j

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Speaker 1: to get into journalism, um, take Spanish. You know that

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Speaker 1: that's got to be a huge help. That was the

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Speaker 1: number one benefit I had in being able to get

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Speaker 1: a job right away, and I was able to stay

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Speaker 1: in in a larger market like Miami. I started off

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Speaker 1: in the Spanish station doing sports and public affairs, and

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Speaker 1: they'll take Latin. What is how's Latin going to help you?

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Speaker 1: French was calmed down. I mean, I was lucky. Shannish

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Speaker 1: our friend nfl uk Hank Handsome Hank. What's the episode

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Speaker 1: during the season? Trend Zone, trend Zone, marganized game and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. So so there you go. She's tied in.

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Speaker 1: Anybody know how to speak Spanish? Here was tri lingule

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Speaker 1: when I was like twenty years old, and now one

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Speaker 1: how flu I was French club president. There was a

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Speaker 1: lot of trips to huckapoos ago, Yes, I was actively

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Speaker 1: all right, here we go. I hold in my hand

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Speaker 1: a old recreation of an old time football helmet. Within

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Speaker 1: it is the Times six twelve twelve questions about the

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Speaker 1: Bay Area football scene, and we're gonna pass the helmet around.

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Speaker 1: Uh MJ, you are our guest, are bilingual guest. What

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Speaker 1: a weapon to have in the industry. So I will

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Speaker 1: start with you. You could use whatever language you feel,

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Speaker 1: pick and pick a question out. If it's one of

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Speaker 1: your questions, put it back in. Otherwise, read the question

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Speaker 1: you answer, and then we all can answer it. But

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Speaker 1: MJ will get us going. What's more likely forty Niners

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Speaker 1: defense or Reader's offense is most improved unit in the league?

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Speaker 1: I would say for to nine defense is the more

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Speaker 1: likely most Can I hear that one more time? What's

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Speaker 1: more likely? D or the readers? Oh is the most

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Speaker 1: improved unit in the league? What about this cross section

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Speaker 1: of segments here? What's more likely jumping into I would

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's allowed, just because there are

547
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Speaker 1: lack of turnovers last season, lack of sacks, just statistically

548
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: all around, they have no place to go but up,

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Speaker 1: and they have fully reinforced that complete line. The second

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Speaker 1: dairy Um, guys who were banged up are coming back healthy,

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Speaker 1: unwilling for their sake. Um, So I really do think

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Speaker 1: that that's where we we'll see them the bigger improvement

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Speaker 1: for for comparing those two, I agree the Raiders offensive

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Speaker 1: line still worries me quite a bit, and the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners added denverence makers. Nick Bosa can be a difference

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Speaker 1: maker if he's anything like his brother d Ford. UM

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Speaker 1: Jason Varette who was a complete wild card but with

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber before all the injuries. Um In Kwan

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Speaker 1: Alexander another guy coming off Inury with a little bit

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Speaker 1: of luck that that's as talented a front seven as

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Speaker 1: there is in the entire NFL. And Robert Salah, who

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Speaker 1: are guest Peter Schraeger was talking up as a riser

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Speaker 1: even though he hasn't really had results with Sambra Disco

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Speaker 1: like he should get. If he's a great coach and

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Speaker 1: this team is healthy at all, they should they should

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Speaker 1: be a top ten type of defense. Okay, I'm with you, guys,

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, cut West, we have another what's more likely?

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Speaker 1: What's more likely? During the two thousand nineteen Raiders season,

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr uses Twitter to address reports he is frustrated

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Speaker 1: by John Gruden's coaching style, or Antonio Brown misses at

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Speaker 1: least one game connected to a disciplinary action by the

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Speaker 1: team hardcore? Would you rather okay, I'm going wait you

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Speaker 1: you answer? That's right? I forgot. You're not asking it,

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Speaker 1: you're answering it was. I think it's more likely to

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown misses at least one game because what I've

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Speaker 1: seen from him for the last I don't know, ten months,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been a exceptionally sane human being, so he's unpredictable.

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, as much as he loves the block button

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Speaker 1: on Twitter's generally not controversial with his comments. We had

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Speaker 1: We also had a d D King Kawala on our

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Speaker 1: show at the owners meetings, and she was inside that

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Speaker 1: building and she was open about it, and she said

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Speaker 1: that Antonio Brown had changed in a way that was troubling.

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Speaker 1: He was too strong, but it it changed the dynamic

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Speaker 1: of his relationship with his teammates and then eventually with

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Speaker 1: the coach in the front office, leading to him leaving town.

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Speaker 1: I do have a lot of questions. That's why I

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Speaker 1: think it's more likely how that will work with John Gruden,

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Speaker 1: who is a very strong personality as well, who if

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Speaker 1: they butt heads, Antonio Brown is probably not gonna win

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Speaker 1: that battle. So I would say that's more likely. What

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Speaker 1: do you think, m J? What have you what is

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Speaker 1: your um opinion been, or what have you taken from

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Speaker 1: your early interactions with Antonio Brown if you've had any

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Speaker 1: uh we have? UM. I think it's more likely the

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown angle, only because I can't imagine Derek Carr

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Speaker 1: blasting his coach, not blasting, he would be addressing. It

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Speaker 1: could even be just like this is all Yes, it

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Speaker 1: could be a good thing. Yeah, it could be like

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Speaker 1: things are great with John, but there are reports out

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Speaker 1: there that their relationship isn't too hot. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: sort of already addressed those. Um, you're something more to do, right,

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Speaker 1: So I think it's car because he's already done stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. I think I miss miss red, but he

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Speaker 1: has to do it on Twitter on Twitter. Okay, that

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Speaker 1: does seem more likely to me, only because from what

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Speaker 1: I've seen, and I'm only speaking in the context of

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Speaker 1: from free agency to O T A S to minicamp,

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Speaker 1: what I've seen from Antonio Brown thus far, it would

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Speaker 1: appear that everything that he's doing is to prove I'm

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Speaker 1: for real. This is where I want to shure, this

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Speaker 1: is where I want to be. We need to win,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to be the guy who's going to

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Speaker 1: do it. I think you're getting the best. Antonio Brown

615
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Speaker 1: is one of the greatest receivers of all time. He

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Speaker 1: has motivated, he's he's gonna be honest, p's and ques,

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Speaker 1: and we've already seen Derek carr uh you know on

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Speaker 1: Twitter do something very similar just this offseason. I remember

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Speaker 1: those eyes emojis when they were working out Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: That was That was an interesting little moment. So I

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Speaker 1: can see it happening. I've talked about it on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Year two is when the Antonio Brown experiment could go.

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Speaker 1: Early October year two Vegas. I don't know. Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: see how it goes there. All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Raiders question. Does the Raiders game day theme song fit

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas? Now? This is interesting because I do

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Speaker 1: not know what the Raiders theme song is, So m J,

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Speaker 1: can you sing it for us? So? Okay, So it's

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Speaker 1: more of a spoken word with like a really good beat. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's here. It's like the Autumn Wind. Yes, the Autumn

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Speaker 1: Wind is a raiders plundering what it was that all thing? Yes? Classic?

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Speaker 1: Can we play that, Ricky? The Autumn Wind is a

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Speaker 1: pirate blustering in from sea with a rollicking song. He

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Speaker 1: speaks along, swaggering voicelessly. His face is webb beaten. He

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Speaker 1: wears a hooded sash, with a silver hat about his

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Speaker 1: head and a bristling black mustache. He growls as he

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Speaker 1: storms the country, a villain, big and bold, and the

638
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: trees all shake and quiver and quake as he rubs

639
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: them of their gold. The Autumn Wind is a raider

640
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: pillaging gestro fund. He'll knocked you round and upside down

641
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: and laugh when he's conquered and won. Does it still fit?

642
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: Does it still go with the franchise in Las Vegas? Well?

643
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: So synonymous with the Black Hole, with the Colosseum, that game?

644
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: Do you feel? What? Do they call that a zeppelin

645
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: or no um sorocca? I don't know what it's just

646
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: it's a it's a desert windstorm. Oh, I don't know.

647
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a desert Windstar might call it.

648
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you can still have a windstar.

649
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: I would think they have to. That's such a great

650
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: part of their tradition. But no longer is You're right though,

651
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 1: because you can't. You're not coming in from the sea

652
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: to plunder anymore. They're trying to have their cake and

653
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: eat it. To keep all the tradition, keep all the

654
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: Raiders stuff. You know, I'm in a little skeptical that

655
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: you can pull that all off. But Raiders fans it

656
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: seems so loyal. I guess you can, all right, Greg,

657
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: he's got the old helmet. He's opening it up. See

658
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: what the handwriting is. It's neat, so it can only

659
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: be one person who West. I can't. I can't get

660
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: this thing apart. I folded it in like full pageant

661
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: on stage question manner. That's not mine. I don't think

662
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: outside of George Kittle, which member of the forty niners

663
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: offense scares opposing defenses? Uh, that is terrifying. That is

664
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: a star. He's fun to cover, right, almost like a

665
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: professional wrestler, you know. I think I think it's a

666
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: fair Uh, it's a fair question that they don't have

667
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: difference makers that you have to game plan for. I

668
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: think Tevin Coleman speed can scare it. I think Kyle

669
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: Shanahan's you know, running scheme can, but that's that's more

670
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: of a scheme. I think Dante Pettes can certainly get

671
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: better and and and maybe turn into that guy. Mike

672
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: mcglinchey's like a run blocker you might have to worry about.

673
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: But it's pretty much just George Kittle. You're counting on

674
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: your coaching to make up for the lack of players

675
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: that do scary is the answer. I think he's the defense.

676
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: Do you mentioned Jack McKinnon? I did not. Is he

677
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: just out of the where are we back in the mix? McKinnon?

678
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: Now he can be a part of a real slow

679
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: um during off season programs with him just being extra

680
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: cautious with that me. But he's gonna have He has

681
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: a much harder recovery just because of what he has

682
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: to do in his role compared to Jimmy, who's also

683
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: recovering from somebody good. Is going to be inactive on

684
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: game days right between Brita Oh yeah, and you check

685
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: and then most are a special teamer. And he's coming

686
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: off a major injury. So Nickinnon got paid a lot

687
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: of money before he suffered that injury. M hmm, interesting

688
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: plotline to watch trade like sell it baby? All right?

689
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: Will pro football work in Las Vegas? Most scene most

690
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: seem convinced that l A will be unwilling to support

691
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: two NFL teams, But why should we think Vegas will

692
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: support one? Good question for MJ cost But I think

693
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: you don't need to give people a reason to go

694
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: to Vegas. Everyone's down for a trip to Vegas, and

695
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: I've now coupled with UM game day action. I think

696
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: it will work. I think it will maybe though, like

697
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: I guess my my take it on it is, we've

698
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: heard about this for years and it was used. You know,

699
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: the Davis's were trying to get the building built in Oakland.

700
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: It just wasn't gonna happen, and Vegas became what Los

701
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: Angeles used to be, which was, hey, you better build

702
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: our stadium or we're moving. And they just they acted

703
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: on it, which is a very out slash Mark Davis

704
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: thing to do. But all this handwringing about the Chargers,

705
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: and it's not unwarranted about what are they gonna do here?

706
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: How are they going to fill up a you know,

707
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand seed stadium when they can't fill up

708
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: thirty that's all fair. But I don't hear anybody saying, Man,

709
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders gonna work in Vegas and they they're all in.

710
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: They got a new building being built right now too.

711
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: Because it's Vegas. It's the allure of Vegas. But is

712
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: it a football town itself? If you have a stadium,

713
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna fill it. It's it's a small town. Well

714
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: that's yeah, I don't think that's true. Are the Chargers

715
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: they don't have a stadium? Yeah? They I am not worried.

716
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: The answer to the question would because of the the

717
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Golden Knights. I think. I think that the fact that

718
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: the hockey team has been not just a success, but

719
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: like a raging success where it's become a civic pride thing. Yeah,

720
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: and they were good too, but but that's forty days

721
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: a year. It's forty days a year, and they're filling

722
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: it up. And there it seemed to be. It wasn't

723
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: that it was locals going even though it's a very

724
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: small market's immediately one of the NFL's smallest markets. There

725
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: was enough kind of local pride that that kind of

726
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: jumped on board. That figure today maybe because Raiders fans

727
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: are so loyal, they travel and they make it a

728
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: weekend of it. It could work if you squint the

729
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: right way. But also part of the reason why the

730
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: Golden Knights thing works is that you could build it

731
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: into your Friday night in Vegas, where oh, we'll go game,

732
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: We'll go at the pool, then we'll hop over to

733
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: the arena, which is right in the middle of everything,

734
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: and then we'll continue our night. A football game is different.

735
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: It's it's a it starts early, it's it's you get

736
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: to the stadium, you're there. It's I guess it's close

737
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: to the strip, but it's not like right in the

738
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: middle of everything. It's a different fan experience. Thinking maybe

739
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: they'll have some feature in the stadium like they do

740
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: all a hard rock in Miami, where there's an actual

741
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: literal nightclub inside of this movie. So that's something like

742
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: that has to has to be incorporated in the Vegas.

743
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: Give it the Vegas, give it the Vegas field. I mean,

744
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: people are legit with those foam glow in the dark

745
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: things and glasses on and like popping bottles at Miami

746
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: Dolphins game. So I would imagine they'll have something like

747
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: that in Vegas? Did you ever as a former Dolphins? Sureley,

748
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: you'd you ever meet glorious Stefan? I only saw her

749
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: from afar was the sound machine flanking her or protecting

750
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: her from there was a red carpet that led up

751
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 1: to like to go into what about the what about

752
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: part owners? Uh Serena and Venus Williams and many other

753
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: part of how did the cheer has not got a chance?

754
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: That's not right. Costa should have been part of that,

755
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: all right, West, he's got one in his hand. He's

756
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: gonna Dan's purview here. Who will be the breakout star

757
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks? Good question? Well, I think well, the

758
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: obviously answer is Gruden just because this is that's who's

759
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna be focused on the most. Think Rex Ryan in

760
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: the two thousand ten Hard Knocks season. Um, you know

761
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: that they're going to hit that hard. Um. Who would

762
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: be the kind of like the sneaky breakout star. I

763
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: don't know. Mike Glennon, let's let's go home, Let's go

764
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: to my I'm gonna go Vante's perfect. I mean, there's

765
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: so many guys that you would think the NFL would

766
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: not want to be. You don't want to know what's

767
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes with Mike Lennon, because I do.

768
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 1: I personally, I've forgotten Mike Glennon. There the Glennon versus

769
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman battle. Uh, actually it's kind of juicy. Uh yeah,

770
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: I think I think Vontes perfect is a lot. I mean,

771
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: the Richie incognito thing will be interesting to watch. I'm

772
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: curious how hard they're going to hit that. But that

773
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: that's out there, and then people will say Antonio Brown,

774
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: if he's on his best behavior, he might be in

775
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: good spirits. You know, he always has the extravagant training

776
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: camp arrival. I kind of Brown, what what what that's

777
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: gonna be? But the breakout start, I'm gonna go with

778
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: John Gruden just because I think it's a perfect match.

779
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: Who are we missing here? Um? This is so off

780
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: the radar, you guys. I mean, this is just an

781
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: observation from from camp. Running Backs coach Kirby Wilson is hillarious.

782
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: Did he please watch him? He's hysterical. He has these

783
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: one liners, the things he shouts at the the guys

784
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 1: while they're running drills. I mean a lot of times

785
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: after remind myself, all right, you gotta watch the rest

786
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: of practice. That's so entertaining. He's like, that's a right

787
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: call because a classic Hard Knocks move is to focus

788
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: in on a eccentric assistant coach and they become breakout stars.

789
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Remember the guy last year for the Browns with the

790
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: belly when he said hot and the whole belly moved that.

791
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Love that guy. There's always a coach. Um, all right,

792
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm up, okay, su speminine handlewriting. I'm going to guess

793
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: this is from an m j Acosta is an m

794
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: j Acosta joint. How will Kyle Shanahan split carries in

795
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: this reinforced backfield? Well we kind of hit on that

796
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I don't know. I mean, didn't

797
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: we see so much um last year after McKenney go

798
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: he goes down. Didn't we see so much from Brita

799
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: that he deserves and he shot up? And yeah, yeah,

800
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: he has a pectoral um muscle strain situation there. To me,

801
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: he's he's the most talent to runner on that team.

802
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: The question is do you want to give him more

803
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: than ten to eleven touches per week? And you have

804
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: enough running backs where you can limit it well between

805
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: the three of them. It should work out perfect because

806
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: they've all had injury, they've had some issues. I think

807
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman has generally been durable. But they'll probably take

808
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: turns sharing the ball. That's how it's kind of work

809
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: themselves out to the chances that all three are healthy.

810
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want anybody to get hurt, but

811
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: last Seasonshart, so I'd take one, though, would beat Tevin Coleman.

812
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: He's the one that's been with Kyle Shanahan before and

813
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: hated him last year. I don't love him. I don't

814
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: like love him as a player, but I think he's

815
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: gonna get plenty of opportunity. But he's a role player.

816
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: He's done it. He's a role player. That's why he

817
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: didn't get paid, even though he's going back to Shanahan.

818
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: All right, Greg, Greg Rosenthal, Up, we only have four

819
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 1: questions ten and twenty two. As he enters his third

820
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: season with a third consecutive double dudget lost season cost

821
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: him his job. Who's who's answering this? Dan? I am?

822
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: I it's similar to I know another question that's sitting

823
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: in there, which I wonder, like how much faith Jed York,

824
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: the owner has in this combination because it seems like

825
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: they're on the six year contract that he loves them forever,

826
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: and a season like this would test it. I think

827
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan would somehow survive it, which almost never happens,

828
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: and that if I had to guess that he would

829
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: survive ahead of the GM, but I have no idea

830
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: I would. If I'm a Niners fan, I would be

831
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: worried that John Lynch the GM, maybe he's not the guy.

832
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: And if they have another tough season this year, they

833
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: decided to clean house and then Shanahan, who's a very

834
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: bright mind who maybe didn't get a fair shake here,

835
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: goes somewhere else and becomes a big time coach and

836
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: you just were a victim of timing on some level.

837
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: The other side of an MJ is that, well, if

838
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: he loses uh ten games, twelve games, and let's say

839
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: eleven games, maybe you've had enough time, don't care what

840
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: the background, and you just it's time to go with

841
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: someone else because you didn't get the job done in

842
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: three years. I think they do acknowledge that all that

843
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: last year was just crappy in terms of injuries, you know,

844
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: like who no one could have seen that Jimmy Garoppolo

845
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: injury coming, and so much of his offense was to

846
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: be built and kind of raised around Jimmy and what

847
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: he was gonna do with Jet and losing both of

848
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: those guys right before the season. I think maybe a mulligan,

849
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's such thing in the NFL.

850
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: There's mercy, um. But I do agree with Greg that

851
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: if anyone can survive it, it it would be him, But

852
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: it would take some like alright, one last time around

853
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: the horn and Jay Costa. If that were the case,

854
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannahon might for once encounter just a little bit

855
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: of doubt on this podcast. Doesn't happened yet, That happened yet.

856
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: Is John Gruden a liability? Oh wow, someone's cutting right

857
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: short and sweet. Uh No, No, I don't think he

858
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: has a liability. I think we have yet to see

859
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: what this team is supposed to be under him. I

860
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: don't think that year last year was the Gruden of

861
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: your that we remember and that we know. Um. There

862
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: were many times last year where I'd hear him in

863
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: like post name pressors and he's like, well, it's gonna

864
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: get better, It's gonna be fun. Because so passively and

865
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you. I think I was just a

866
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: consequence of of of what it was, of that transition

867
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: of the season, of everything that was happening. But I

868
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: can already see a shift back, um, just even through

869
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: this off season, in our interactions, UM, in conversations that

870
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: we've had, and in the press conferences that he's given. UM.

871
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's a liability, but I do

872
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: think that this year, similar to the Niners, it's like,

873
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: all right, well let's see it. Then I'm with you.

874
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: Anybody that drew conclusions last year was both a misguided

875
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: and a prisoner of the moment. This is he's had

876
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: a ten year deal. This is never gonna be put

877
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: back together in one year. Starting this year, though, I

878
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: think it's fair to really take at whether he can

879
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: do the job at the stage of his life. We've

880
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: seen some coaches make an instant impact when they really

881
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: are ahead of the curve, right like Sean McVeigh, for instance,

882
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: he tore it down though he decided, yeah, I don't know.

883
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: To me, it's just it is a question because on

884
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: some levels in terms of team building, he was a

885
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: little bit of a liability in Tampa for about five

886
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: six straight years there, So that's a little bit of

887
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a wreck, it's a body of work.

888
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: But does he a liability right now? I don't think

889
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: it's fair to say. It's premature to say that. It's

890
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: also you can't say he's been an asset. That's fair too.

891
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna have to lean heavily on MJ

892
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: for this answer. Do Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch get

893
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: along as much as it appears, Yes, yes they do,

894
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: because I think that's if if things did go squirrely

895
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: this year for them, I feel like if if that

896
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: wasn't true, then that would come out and it's like

897
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: one survives or the other. But no, they really are

898
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: on the same page. I've seen them both on hand

899
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: at the facility. Outside of it it in just events

900
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: centered around the team, but off campus, and you can't

901
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: fake that funk, right, And I don't think one of

902
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: them that for a drop is um is the type

903
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: to be contrived in that sense like I'm just gonna

904
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: smile and and and be cordial for it, like they're

905
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: both hyper competitive, um, But I think they're also on

906
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: the same page. That's a great sign. I kind of

907
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: want to see one of these long term plans actually

908
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: pan out where you know there wasn't success, so that

909
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: other teams can point to it. Has anybody pulled their

910
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: own question? Yet? Are we pitched in a perfect game here?

911
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: I could kind of tell which one's handwriting, Yeah, that's gone.

912
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: I thought you said don't it wasn't. Well, you pull

913
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: it out and then if it's yours, you put it back.

914
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: But you guys are looking I didn't know you well,

915
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: why not say? Why not save the listener? That like

916
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: enthralling thirty seconds of podcast? All right, here we go

917
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: two more? Wait, this one's stuck together? Good too? Oh yeah,

918
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: I really steal mind, Like like there's this isn't throlling

919
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: as well? Great radio West? This I know? And he

920
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: he was like walking around all peacock and like I

921
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: put my questions in the best You don't know what, peacock,

922
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: where were you you walk past my desk? He he

923
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: was pretty proud of him. He was like, I came up.

924
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: I came up with his whole plan. I'm going to

925
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: use the other side of a sticky. You don't know

926
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: that was that was true? Greg tells no tales. Oh,

927
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: another edition of what's more likely Monte is Perfect and

928
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: Richie Incognito or both Week one starters or at least

929
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: one will not survive final cuts? Oh I like this one. Okay? Uh?

930
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: First of all, good handwriting, Chris, alright, So Incognito fills

931
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: a huge need. Uh, Ossemile left the team. They need

932
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: a guard. He fits there as long as you can

933
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: stay in the straight and narrow. He's a Week one starter. Perfect.

934
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, isn't perfect kind of been in decline

935
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: as a player. Oh, he was one of the worst

936
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: linebackers in the NFL last year. So run that seems

937
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: like a toss up at best or at least one

938
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: will not survive. I think it's more likely that Vante's

939
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: Perfect gets cut or Incognito does something dumb to undermine himself,

940
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: So I will go with one of them will not survive.

941
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: Can I just point out that Richie Incognito is thirty

942
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: six years old coming out of retirement, coming out of retirement,

943
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: and we've seen better guards. Guys like Jarry Evans have

944
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: to shut it down way before age six. Last time

945
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: I saw him that You're making a lot of sense,

946
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: but he was, yes, Dan, you know, I know you

947
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: had your rules that you're so excited about what happens.

948
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: Now it's the last question left and I there's only

949
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 1: one option and it's mine. Have to put it back

950
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: in and then the show is just over. We have

951
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: to stay here for eternity. Raiders fans uh, and she's

952
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: gonna miss miss uh. We've kind of covered this, But

953
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: Raiders fans and forty Niners fans overrated, underrated or properly

954
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: rated answer separately? Its separately. Well, you know you can't

955
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: group them together, all right, I'll start uh Niners fans

956
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: properly excuse me. Raiders fans properly rated as being badasses?

957
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: Um our buddy scar listener of the show long like

958
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: guys like that that no matter what happens, they dress

959
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: up like maniacs. They cheer, They fill up a dump

960
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: of a stadium. Uh. They fill that place out right,

961
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean that place has ross sewage flowing through it

962
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: half the time, and they will fill up your men too. Well.

963
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: I've gotten death threats from Raiders fans than the rest

964
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: of the team. See use that as positive, uh Niners.

965
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the there's a difference between the Candlestick

966
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: era Niners fans or how they're perceived and now at

967
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 1: the Levi's Stadium, the Big Bell Bottom Um, I feel

968
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: like they kind of take a bad rap now that

969
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: maybe they don't deserve. They didn't decide to build the

970
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: stadium up in like Washington or whatever it is now.

971
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: Uh So I'll put them properly rated to our maybe

972
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: slightly kind of they get a bad rap and it's

973
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: not their fault. I like forty Niners fans. I don't

974
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: think there is crazy, like psychopathic as some other fan bases.

975
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: But they know what they're talking about. They're very educated

976
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: on their team and football, and I have a high

977
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: sports acumen for sure. I think forty Niners fans are underrated.

978
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: I agree with that even within the Bay Area they

979
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: kind of because the Raiders fans are so overpowering. I

980
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: think that the forty Niners fans do um get a

981
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: get a little bit of a bad rap there, a

982
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: little spoiled. You know, had a lot of success time ago,

983
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: they had a nice run there less not filling up

984
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: that stadium. I mean the stadium hour and a half

985
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: away from the city. It's like an attorney. They also

986
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: had to address the sunlight issue, which was a killer right.

987
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: They had to build like a like in Miami almost

988
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: they had to build some type of tent around it,

989
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: like a little on how much you get paid to

990
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: build the stadium. Gotta get these things right. They do

991
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: that on purpose, though, don't they what to make sure

992
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: that the sunlight hits the opposing team. M J. You

993
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: came in and you said it all. You've done it.

994
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: There's nothing else you You got off a plane that

995
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: was delayed, you dealt with well, you didn't deal with him,

996
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: but you saw unruly people at the airport and you

997
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: desecrated them as you should. I have to remember I

998
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: work on two vs. I don't want to end up

999
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: on a viral video like, no, you gotta be spelling

1000
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: somebody off at the airport for being rude. Then I'm

1001
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: the rude one. We loved having you and we'd love

1002
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: to have you back. You're like, you're the least likely

1003
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: NFL network analysts to have like a brit mc henry moment.

1004
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: I think I go in Vegas, uh, connected to your team,

1005
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: you would be at the bottom of the board, which

1006
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: is I think the place to be is you know

1007
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: that's where you want to be. Okay, so that's it.

1008
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: That's it for this week's shows. We'll have one very

1009
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: special show fourth of July week UM the return of

1010
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: really renowned, extremely popular UM game show. I would say

1011
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: the number one game show in the podcast game speaking.

1012
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: I overrated this game. Greg tries to get off the schneide.

1013
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: We won't say what it is. Did we say what

1014
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: it was on Monday? No, we didn't. Just could be

1015
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: any game show. You can figure it out though, based

1016
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: on Greg's demeanor what it is probably, but MJ, thank

1017
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: you again, Thank you guys. All right, this is Dan

1018
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: Hanss signing off four m J Acosta, the mail Man,

1019
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the glass Until next

1020
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: week m HM