Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are staying in the
Speaker 1: race to the regular season. I'm Greg Rosenthal and beyond
Speaker 1: Lucky today, to be joined later in the show very
Speaker 1: soon by Jordan rod Riege of The Athletic and Patrick
Speaker 1: Claybah and we're going to do a segment called I
Speaker 1: Can Fix It about some reclamation projects.
Speaker 2: But before that, I want to get you.
Speaker 1: Caught up quickly on all the news that's happened over
Speaker 1: the weekend since we last taped. One of the reasons
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this show being daily is training Camp.
Speaker 1: It is perfect for training camp because I want to
Speaker 1: have a spot for you guys where we can keep
Speaker 1: you up to date about what's going on with all
Speaker 1: thirty two teams. And look camp started. Texans Bear is
Speaker 1: half a weekend. Ravens Chiefs Full Veterans practice for the
Speaker 1: first time on Sunday. So Randy hit the music here.
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep this quick, but let's get to
Speaker 1: things we learned over the last few days. Number one,
Speaker 1: biggest one, Shaq Barrett retired. This really hurts the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: You might not think this is that huge of news,
Speaker 1: but seven million dollars they gave him because they have
Speaker 1: no edge presence whatsoever. With Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb
Speaker 1: both coming off torn acls. They're on the pupig list,
Speaker 1: like who knows when they're going to be back. Sorry
Speaker 1: for Shaq Barrett, really unique career, third edge rusher for
Speaker 1: the Broncos when they won the Super Bowl. Helped put
Speaker 1: that Bucks defense over the top and win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They're really one of the best free agent signings of
Speaker 1: the last ten years at the edge position, really smart,
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins are thin there.
Speaker 2: They have two healthy edges right now.
Speaker 1: If you looked at who's at top their depth jar
Speaker 1: right now, it's rookie Chop Robinson and Moe Kamara. NFL
Speaker 1: Networks cam Wolfe said they will work out Emmanuel Ogba.
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if that deal gets done
Speaker 1: because they were counting on Barrett to play big snaps.
Speaker 1: But I know that must have been a tough decision.
Speaker 1: He tragically to his daughter in an accident a year ago,
Speaker 1: decide to play one more season, but says he wants
Speaker 1: to be with his family and happy trails to Shack
Speaker 1: Bear at great career. Sadly, another player whose career might
Speaker 1: be ending. We learned since we last tape was Ryan
Speaker 1: Ramcheck placed on the reserve pup list for the Saints.
Speaker 1: Right tackle who made three All Pro teams, one first team,
Speaker 1: two second teams, not officially retired, definitely out for this season,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like he is not going to play
Speaker 1: football ever again. Just could not get that back healthy.
Speaker 1: It's a shame and it's an issue for the Saints.
Speaker 1: If you look at their offensive tackle position, they have
Speaker 1: no idea who their right tackle is, so that's a
Speaker 1: big problem spot. It might be Trevor Penning speaking of
Speaker 1: needing fixing, like he needs fixing the Saints. Their offensive
Speaker 1: line needs fixing. We'll get to that. The Saints did
Speaker 1: have other good news. This is my third item. Rashid
Speaker 1: Shahed signed a one year, five point two million dollar.
Speaker 2: Extension over the weekend.
Speaker 1: He was actually signed for twenty twenty four, so he's.
Speaker 2: Just about the most.
Speaker 1: Underpaid wide receiver in football now for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: That is an incredible bit of business. I never fault
Speaker 1: a guy for taking the guaranteed money.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: He has not made much money in his career, but man,
Speaker 1: he is going to be one of the best values
Speaker 1: in the league. In twenty twenty five, our fourth item,
Speaker 1: Jordan Love reported to training camp. Nice this big sigh
Speaker 1: relief for the Packers. We'll see if he has a
Speaker 1: hold in I kind of doubt it. If he's in camp,
Speaker 1: it probably is a sign they're getting closer to an extension.
Speaker 1: The Bears I mentioned have been practicing. They're my fifth item.
Speaker 1: They want to get Caleb Williams to get some reps
Speaker 1: in the preseason. They are talking this up as a
Speaker 1: focus for them. So we are going to get to
Speaker 1: see the number one overall pick I think quite a
Speaker 1: bit in the preseason. That's going to make hard knocks better.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll even be in the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 1: That would be nice. The Chiefs and the Ravens are
Speaker 1: part of my sixth and seventh items here. They are practicing.
Speaker 1: I mentioned their full teams are there. And if you
Speaker 1: happen to be on Twitter on Sunday looking out the
Speaker 1: other news in the world, the throw by Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: just absolutely preposterous, rolling left fifty to sixty yards down
Speaker 1: the field to Xavier Worthy. I'm not going to make
Speaker 1: that a news item every day, but that's one of
Speaker 1: the best throws in practice I've ever seen, and it's
Speaker 1: a reminder. Xavier Worthy, who's been really active these first
Speaker 1: three or four days of training camp, is going to
Speaker 1: have a huge part of their offense.
Speaker 2: I think he's a better football player than Rashie Rice.
Speaker 1: So even with Rashie Rice out of the mix, I
Speaker 1: think Xavier Worthy, if he can stay healthy and he
Speaker 1: has been through the start of camp, is going to
Speaker 1: be a big deal.
Speaker 2: And you know it's the NFL season.
Speaker 1: When Lamar Jackson is out with an illness, I just
Speaker 1: want this guy to be healthy. He apparently was feeling
Speaker 1: sick on Saturday. Hopefully it's not anything too serious. The
Speaker 1: doctor has kept him out on Sunday. It's just something
Speaker 1: with him that is always the case, So I just
Speaker 1: thought i'd noted it. Part of the seventh note for
Speaker 1: me is all the players that are not practicing so far,
Speaker 1: justin Reid Safety. For the cheap bit of a surprise there,
Speaker 1: Johnny Newton of Washington, he's on the NFI list, no
Speaker 1: surprise because of his surgery.
Speaker 2: Mike Williams on the pup list for the Jets.
Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on him, but that's not a surprise.
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead been hurt a lot over the years. Big
Speaker 1: free agent signing for the Jaguars, Jaden Reed of the Packers,
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport of the Lions, DJ Reader of the Lions,
Speaker 1: Brian Branch of the Lions. All guys on pup list.
Speaker 1: They can be taken off at any time, but those
Speaker 1: were some of the noteworthy names. And then just a
Speaker 1: couple of final items, not having to do with training camps.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the Jaguars prowler throwbacks.
Speaker 1: These are the best Jaguars jerseys. They're going to be
Speaker 1: wearing them this year. I was just absolutely loving those
Speaker 1: old Fred Taylor get ups. They are going to be
Speaker 1: wearing them this year, and I love it if they
Speaker 1: just made that their uniforms. And speaking of old uniforms,
Speaker 1: will rap with Corey Dillon finally making the Bengals Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor.
Speaker 2: This is overdue.
Speaker 1: Actually think he has a chance, if the right people
Speaker 1: get behind him, to make the Hall of Fame one day,
Speaker 1: because there's no running backs come in for the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame for a while. Maybe marsha On, maybe frankcre If.
Speaker 1: Chris Westling was on this podcast with me he would agree.
Speaker 1: Corey Dillon is one of the most underrated and elite
Speaker 1: running backs of his era. I think we have to
Speaker 1: have different evaluations for running backs. They're not going to
Speaker 1: pile up numbers like they used to. We have to
Speaker 1: adjust for era, kind of like we do for quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: but with running backs they have lower numbers.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it for me here.
Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, Corey Dylon would have
Speaker 1: been a great candidate for our upcoming segment if we
Speaker 1: were doing it back in two thousand and four when
Speaker 1: the Patriots traded for him and they fixed them and
Speaker 1: they changed his career. Let's listen to this segment was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I can fix them. So yes,
Speaker 1: here with Jordan Rodrigue and Patrick Claybahn and I love
Speaker 1: this idea of a segment here, and it's from Jordan's
Speaker 1: you know, massive mind.
Speaker 3: You can explain it to us.
Speaker 4: But not what I thought you were going to say.
Speaker 4: But thank you for saying it that.
Speaker 3: I don't know what thought I was going to say.
Speaker 1: You know, it's that time of year where you look
Speaker 1: at different coaches, different teams, you look at them in
Speaker 1: a way that you know, maybe you look at them
Speaker 1: a little differently than past.
Speaker 3: People did with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think we've all been there, right, Whether
Speaker 4: it's the fixer upper house that you purchase, it's the
Speaker 4: car that you're going to save from destruction, it's the
Speaker 4: relationship you get into. I can fix him, whether it's
Speaker 4: the songwriters writing these these lyrics about you know, the
Speaker 4: person they genuinely tried with. You know, this is I
Speaker 4: think the NFL every year, this is Hope season right
Speaker 4: pre training camp. We're heading into training camp. More training
Speaker 4: camps are opening this week, and everybody has got in
Speaker 4: their heads. I can fix them. I can be the
Speaker 4: one to fix him.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So, like if you put into words like maybe those
Speaker 1: words would be when you try your best but you
Speaker 1: don't succeed, when you get what you want but not
Speaker 1: what you need, when you feel so tired but you
Speaker 1: can't sleep, sing it no, I will never sing it.
Speaker 3: No performances that that has to be.
Speaker 1: Like I've heard that as like like a wedding song
Speaker 1: or like a wedding like that's a problematic wedding song.
Speaker 3: That's a problematic prom song.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be choosing fix you, But I
Speaker 1: do love it as a segment and I love it
Speaker 1: at this time of year.
Speaker 5: Particularly Yeah.
Speaker 6: I actually, speaking of wedding songs, I do have a
Speaker 6: friend that was at her ex's wedding and the song
Speaker 6: that they danced to was the Broken Road, which felt
Speaker 6: like commentary at her while she was there.
Speaker 4: Oh is this the one? The Broken Roads?
Speaker 3: Leading? Oh?
Speaker 5: That was? Yeah, that's an awkward writing wedding song story?
Speaker 5: Is this me?
Speaker 6: But but yeah, especially in the nfl R viewpoint where
Speaker 6: it's like if if some if some circumstance didn't work out,
Speaker 6: a lot of the times, especially as fans, we think, oh, well,
Speaker 6: this is the player, and so many times he changed
Speaker 6: the circumstance or maybe like if we're making the relationship analogy,
Speaker 6: you change the terms of the relationship, right, then you
Speaker 6: can actually get what you want out of somebody. Not
Speaker 6: the relationship should ever be transactional. Not saying that, but
Speaker 6: it's something that works out for everybody, and it.
Speaker 4: Happens, and you can always get what you want. But
Speaker 4: if you try something, there you go.
Speaker 3: It happens.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it with Evan Ingram's recent contract,
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't say he needed fixing, but Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: helped fix his career. I think he understood what Evan
Speaker 1: Ingram did well and what the Giants could never figure
Speaker 1: out in New York, and he fixed his He helped
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram with more work by Ingram fix his own career,
Speaker 1: and now he's got that big long term deal. So
Speaker 1: I want you to start with us. Jordan, it was
Speaker 1: your brain child. I can fix it, your baby, you
Speaker 1: can fix him.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to go with the Eagles in general. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'd like you guys to interject at various points because
Speaker 4: I am a rambler, and as I ramble on through
Speaker 4: this thing we called light call life, I'd rather not
Speaker 4: think that on this show. I'd rather be a little
Speaker 4: bit more succinct. But I'm gonna start with the offense, Okay,
Speaker 4: Kellen Moore, Jerry's still I think out a little bit
Speaker 4: on what his factor is as an offensive coordinator. But
Speaker 4: the word that was sort of thrown around around Philly,
Speaker 4: despite all of the weapons that they have, was stale.
Speaker 4: They were the very last in the league at motion
Speaker 4: rate usage. Motion isn't everything, but it does help a lot.
Speaker 4: Especially defenses are smarter than ever, They see the field
Speaker 4: better than ever. They have more counters than ever before.
Speaker 4: Some of this pre snap window dressing needs to happen,
Speaker 4: and Kellen Moore does a lot of that. You could
Speaker 4: tell he's got a lot of ideas, and I think
Speaker 4: that this is the big. This is the big I
Speaker 4: can fix him with the Eagles offense being the metaphor
Speaker 4: here bringing in a new offensive coordinator who, as Jalen
Speaker 4: Hurts said earlier this season, installed a ninety five percent
Speaker 4: new offense than what they were previously running. And I
Speaker 4: think this also helps Nick Sirianni maybe get more hands off,
Speaker 4: maybe more CEO kind of mentality. They really made this
Speaker 4: move as a he can fix us.
Speaker 3: So Kellen Moore is the fixer in this situation.
Speaker 4: They hope he is.
Speaker 1: They're fixing he's fixing the offense, He's fixing Hurts.
Speaker 4: They hope he is.
Speaker 1: Interestingly, he's maybe fixing Sirianni, because that was a guy
Speaker 1: who at the end of last season, in those press conferences,
Speaker 1: especially the one where look he was kind of being
Speaker 1: put in his place, looked a little dejected at the
Speaker 1: end of the year when they when they essentially explained
Speaker 1: their plan of we're going to take away what got
Speaker 1: you here in the first place, on some level play
Speaker 1: calling and how you ran this offense. So this is
Speaker 1: like multiple levels of fixing. Are we confident Patrick that
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is like the missing ingredient to save an
Speaker 1: organization that really hit the skids last year?
Speaker 6: I'm kind of wondering if the Eagles and the personnel
Speaker 6: on offense may be able to help fix Kellen Moore
Speaker 6: in his reputation as well, because I think we've seen
Speaker 6: Kellen Moore in two places where he's had very very
Speaker 6: talented quarterbacks, like you know, top top half of the
Speaker 6: league or better quarterbacks, where it did they didn't necessarily
Speaker 6: get the results that they wanted. I think we saw
Speaker 6: the differences in the Mike McCarthy Cowboys where the run
Speaker 6: game did take a step back. And I wonder how
Speaker 6: the personnel can affect last year the Chargers. You know,
Speaker 6: the quarterback Herbert loses both his hands at one.
Speaker 3: Point coordinating the Chargers offense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so I think right Philadelphia was very lost offensively,
Speaker 6: and we're coming off of this Steichen led Eagles team
Speaker 6: where there were world beaters, and then we see Shane
Speaker 6: have all that success with a questionable quarterback situation.
Speaker 5: A rookie quarterback and Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 6: Playing well in Spurts, where the focus on Sirianni and
Speaker 6: the microscope got super big.
Speaker 5: I think this may be something that everybody needs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then that's I'm so glad by the way,
Speaker 4: thanks forgetting it guys. These guys just understand the plot here.
Speaker 4: So like this. This is a multifaceted metaphor here, right,
Speaker 4: which love that big brain because it it is the
Speaker 4: head coach needs an infusion of new ideas. A lot
Speaker 4: of times you see head coaches hire sometimes outside of
Speaker 4: their system because they want pieces of what other people have,
Speaker 4: but they don't necessarily want to be the one to
Speaker 4: overhaul their entire system. So I would I would imagine
Speaker 4: we'll still see some Sirianni system, some stich and we'll
Speaker 4: still see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sirianni for what it's worth, pushed back a little
Speaker 1: bit on Hurtz's ninety five exact statement and said, hey,
Speaker 1: we still got a lot of our stuff, which is
Speaker 1: part of a trend I would say, with Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: and his own coach not always being on the same
Speaker 1: page totally publicly, which something to watch.
Speaker 4: It is so nice that you said the thing that
Speaker 4: I was just about to I'm really glad. I'm really
Speaker 4: glad for.
Speaker 3: Us, sorry about that. You need to fix me in
Speaker 3: my interrupting problem.
Speaker 4: I can fix them, yes, so yeah, but I do
Speaker 4: think that this is potentially a mutual It's also another
Speaker 4: voice in the room, an outside perspective if there are
Speaker 4: dynamics that maybe need a little work shopping, a little
Speaker 4: couple's therapy. Maybe, like you know, you there is an
Speaker 4: outside perspective in the room. There is somebody who you know,
Speaker 4: it wasn't super productive with the Chargers twenty point four
Speaker 4: points per game with a quarterback like that, that's unacceptable obviously,
Speaker 4: but a lot went wrong with the Chargers as well.
Speaker 4: And then in Dallas, you could also see, you know,
Speaker 4: like you said, an improvement when Mike McCarthy did take
Speaker 4: back over at the same time, really young offsive coordinator,
Speaker 4: and you could see some of the ideas that he
Speaker 4: was trying to maybe evolve, evolve a little bit. It
Speaker 4: wasn't that it was always successful, but you kind of
Speaker 4: see the outline or the blueprints of who he's trying
Speaker 4: to become as an offensive coordinator, and this could be
Speaker 4: a really great spot for him. To do it so
Speaker 4: much is going to hinge around Cam Jurgen at center.
Speaker 4: That's like one of the most significant personnel changes on
Speaker 4: any team this off season in my opinion, replacing the
Speaker 4: great Jason Kelcey. And then but I think that any
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator who's trying to find like what his identity
Speaker 4: is going to be and this is where it comes
Speaker 4: and maybe they can help, you know, fix quote unquote
Speaker 4: Kellen Moore a little bit too. You know, you have
Speaker 4: to figure out like who you are as a coordinator
Speaker 4: and a play caller and a concept designer as well.
Speaker 4: Having the multiplicity of Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley together,
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a that's a dream for for any
Speaker 4: young coordinator who's trying to figure out like what his secret.
Speaker 1: Sauce and and got her and a j Browne's and
Speaker 1: Jordan Malatta, like, these guys are there. They don't need fixing.
Speaker 1: They it's everything around it, and it's it's complicated. There's
Speaker 1: more questions on the offensive line than normal that we're
Speaker 1: used to. They also have a new guard, Tyler stein
Speaker 1: Less worried about that that was a replaceable spot, but
Speaker 1: at center that is huge but they got to make
Speaker 1: this work because I saw this interview I think it
Speaker 1: was with a number of reporters that Sirianni did, but
Speaker 1: Zach Berman wrote about it well at all p HL
Speaker 1: Y and yeah, Sirianni saying how he's found joy this
Speaker 1: offseason connecting with the players, And I'm sure he is,
Speaker 1: but you're not going to really know how you're feeling
Speaker 1: until the season's going. And he's not the one call
Speaker 1: in the plays, and no team in the NFL to me,
Speaker 1: has more importance in September of just getting off to
Speaker 1: a solid enough start because there's gonna be some bumps
Speaker 1: along the way with this much different in the offense
Speaker 1: and the defense, and this is a team that just
Speaker 1: feels like it needs to win a couple of games
Speaker 1: early or else that losing streak at the end of
Speaker 1: last year feels like it's still going.
Speaker 3: That it's just a continuation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what he needs the deodoran of winning.
Speaker 6: Yes, that was absolutely not there at the end of
Speaker 6: last year, and it felt like the wheels were falling off.
Speaker 6: And of course everybody everybody could see like how good
Speaker 6: this team is and the things that they could do,
Speaker 6: and then suddenly it wasn't working, the quarterback was hurt,
Speaker 6: and there's there's there's reason for positivity, and I think no,
Speaker 6: like Kellen Moore, isn't this world beater football revolutionizer that
Speaker 6: we thought he was five years ago, but he's he's
Speaker 6: also not like not terrible, low replacement level play caller.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a spot for everybody.
Speaker 1: I just hope they don't lose Jalen Hurts' ability to
Speaker 1: pick up a first down in short yardage, which is
Speaker 1: the team's superpower. I don't know if they're going to
Speaker 1: do the tush push as much, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it's going to be a balance that you don't want
Speaker 1: to lose his ability to.
Speaker 4: Run Saquan Squat's heavy plates too. So Okay, So I
Speaker 4: don't want to leave this topic without talking about the defense,
Speaker 4: because that became rather porous, especially on the back half,
Speaker 4: and obviously bringing in bringing back in Vic Fangio super
Speaker 4: super important. We've talked about this on previous shows as well,
Speaker 4: but CJ. Garden Johnson being back in the building, that
Speaker 4: personality and that confidence and like the know how and
Speaker 4: the knowledge, adding Quinyon Mitchell and Cooper dejen when we
Speaker 4: were talking with Nate Tice. The concept of a shooting
Speaker 4: star a nickel, a star player that has some responsibilities
Speaker 4: that a nickel has, but also can be really a
Speaker 4: little bit more coverage, versatile and matchup dependent than a
Speaker 4: specifically a nickel player would be. That could be Cooper
Speaker 4: Degene and he could they could move him around everywhere.
Speaker 4: That's a huge learning curve. I think that Vic Fangio
Speaker 4: was hired to fix this defense. Vic Fangio is not
Speaker 4: for everyone. Everybody is aware of that. Vic Fangio would
Speaker 4: tell you that to your face, and probably in a
Speaker 4: very even blunter manner than than I just did.
Speaker 1: But what I'm really always be a little wary of
Speaker 1: people that are too proud to be like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: not for everyone.
Speaker 4: But he's very he's very open truth teller. Okay, well
Speaker 4: he's very He's very he's very open about like listen,
Speaker 4: like this is at this point, this is he is
Speaker 4: who he is, and I do think that he wants
Speaker 4: to be there. He's he's wanted to be there. And
Speaker 4: it also is really interesting to me because he actually
Speaker 4: you can kind of see him uh solving that aspect.
Speaker 4: I think of himself a little bit because he brought
Speaker 4: in two young assistants that he's worked with in the past,
Speaker 4: Christian Parker and Joe Casper, and those guys were with
Speaker 4: him at previous stops, but they're like his guys, but
Speaker 4: they're also very player forward and they're gonna be in
Speaker 4: charge of basically developing this young secondary. When Vic Fangio
Speaker 4: runs the type of defense he wants to run, he
Speaker 4: does really complex coverage structures, very versatile coverage structures, and
Speaker 4: then he lets the pressure packages be a little bit
Speaker 4: simpler and more straightforward other than some of the fake
Speaker 4: pressure that he presents pre snap like. It can really
Speaker 4: work as a back to front, but you need to
Speaker 4: have the players buy in, and you need to have
Speaker 4: really good coaching at every single level. And I think
Speaker 4: that's why he brought in those coaches. So there's layers
Speaker 4: within layers within layers of the metaphor. We're fixing and
Speaker 4: fixing and fixing and fixing and fixing.
Speaker 3: And maybe fixing the Fangio trees reputation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ooh, I love that, because.
Speaker 1: Look, he struggled last year. It's not as in vogue.
Speaker 1: You saying that makes me think maybe we're going to
Speaker 1: see a little more out of I don't know, does
Speaker 1: James Bradberry actually make this team. Does Avonte Maddox end
Speaker 1: up being the slot over Cooper dejene. It's such a
Speaker 1: complex defense. Can you get Quinyan Mitchell, Cooper dejen I
Speaker 1: know they're high on kiey Ringo actually coming into this year.
Speaker 3: He's had a good offseason. He could play a lot.
Speaker 1: Sidney Brown like, it's maybe a tough one for young
Speaker 1: guys in the secondary to pick up.
Speaker 3: I think they have enough talent.
Speaker 1: We'll go through all the position battles, but yet both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball in the defense. Because let's be real, well,
Speaker 1: that collapse wasn't about the offense.
Speaker 3: It never was.
Speaker 1: It was always a top ten offense. It was the
Speaker 1: defense that completely collapsed. But the offense was stale too,
Speaker 1: as was the Panthers offense. I'm gonna go to Carolina
Speaker 1: and talk about Bryce Young and say the thing. I've
Speaker 1: gotta say the thing. Give me a chance here, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it. Look, there's nobody in the NFL I
Speaker 1: think that is better suited to say I can fix
Speaker 1: you to Bryce Young than Dave Canalis. This guy is
Speaker 1: just all energy, all positivity and he has the track
Speaker 1: record because he's done it now. I don't think Gino
Speaker 1: Smith needed total fixing. He was always there and talented
Speaker 1: and ready for the right coach to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: But Dave Canalis was that coach along with Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Baker Mayfield very different quarterback, I think in
Speaker 1: terms of skill set to Gino Smith. So the fact
Speaker 1: that he made it work with these two guys, Gino
Speaker 1: who's so good at seeing things ahead of time, and
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield who's not, and getting Baker to anticipate and
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball quicker and Dave Canawis did
Speaker 1: a great job with that. And when you look at
Speaker 1: what Bryce Young should be able to be good at
Speaker 1: at the NFL level, it is that anticipation. It is
Speaker 1: that ability to see the field that is very tough
Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 3: But it seemed like it was coming along by the
Speaker 3: end of the year.
Speaker 1: And you listen to Canalis and we're going to take
Speaker 1: a listen to him at the combine this year and look,
Speaker 1: just listen to the man himself.
Speaker 7: No plan to fix Bryce Young. I think for me,
Speaker 7: it's it's about building an offense that we can be
Speaker 7: proud of, something that something that is tough, something that
Speaker 7: is smart, that that takes care of the football. Number one,
Speaker 7: we got to create more explosives and then and then
Speaker 7: of course we have to minimize damage with exotic pressures
Speaker 7: and things like that. So I think just elevating the
Speaker 7: whole group and and really asking Bryce to just do
Speaker 7: his part.
Speaker 1: Patrick, you watched a lot of Bryce Young tape over
Speaker 1: the year I did, and tough first year. What are
Speaker 1: you what are you hoping for here?
Speaker 6: Well, Dave canel else, his task is to fix the
Speaker 6: Carolina Panthers, I think first and foremost, so we could
Speaker 6: see I believe in Bryce, but I can understand the
Speaker 6: people who didn't get a chance right to see him
Speaker 6: out here in high school or to see him in
Speaker 6: Tuscaloosa to see what other people believe in. But the
Speaker 6: offense itself was so bad that it was just impossible
Speaker 6: to evaluate the quarterback.
Speaker 5: And so you see, like his.
Speaker 6: Rating when targeting Adam Thielen was one hundred and two, right,
Speaker 6: Tommy Trimble one five. Like there's places where you saw
Speaker 6: Bryce be successful, but the overall product was so difficult
Speaker 6: for anybody to deal, and I struggle to think of
Speaker 6: a quarterback that we could just place in that situation
Speaker 6: year one with that team and say, hey, be successful.
Speaker 6: Of course, like the greats wouldn't be bad, but for
Speaker 6: a rookie, that was a heavy list.
Speaker 1: He doesn't necessarily have like the creativity or the physical
Speaker 1: traits in terms of his movement or his big arm
Speaker 1: to just like wow you to get over that bad
Speaker 1: of a situation. But if you watch those last four games,
Speaker 1: I do think it got a little lost in the
Speaker 1: shuffle PFF's grades for the final four weeks of the season.
Speaker 1: He was twelfth in passing. I went and watched a
Speaker 1: lot of it, and yeah, the arm doesn't overwhelm you.
Speaker 1: But he hit a number of deep sideline throws that
Speaker 1: showed anticipation, a guy that understood coverages, that was always
Speaker 1: throwing before the guy made his break, which you don't
Speaker 1: always see out of rookie quarterbacks, and putting it in
Speaker 1: the right spot, and a little bit of creativity more
Speaker 1: than you would expect, more than I would say you
Speaker 1: saw seeaut A two A tongue to a tongue of
Speaker 1: I loa And I bring up that name because I
Speaker 1: think if you just close your eyes and you watch
Speaker 1: those four games, and for the most part, he looked
Speaker 1: like a real NFL quarterback. I see similarities with Tua
Speaker 1: of anticipating getting rid of the ball quickly putting it
Speaker 1: right on the money, and I think he can win
Speaker 1: in the same sorts of ways that Tua did. But
Speaker 1: he had a number of throws kind of running left,
Speaker 1: running right that was like, Okay, that's Pryce Young. And
Speaker 1: I think those four games should give him some confidence
Speaker 1: going into this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a really interesting situation saying that kindly,
Speaker 4: and that we don't even still really know what his
Speaker 4: ceiling is, but that roster last year lowered his floor,
Speaker 4: and that was that was hard to watch at times.
Speaker 4: I remember so you brought up the Dolphins. I remember
Speaker 4: when Mike McDaniel was asked about him, you know, when
Speaker 4: the teams were about to play each other, and he
Speaker 4: just he raved about some of the same things that
Speaker 4: he loves in Tua. And I think that so many
Speaker 4: times last year when when watching the Panthers kind of
Speaker 4: just get in their own way a little bit, you
Speaker 4: just thought, man, I'd love to see him like in
Speaker 4: an actual version of that system that the Dolphins are running, giving,
Speaker 4: getting weapons all around, helping the quarterback in a few
Speaker 4: different ways, but then also building confidence in the quarterback.
Speaker 4: Let's not forget too is confident was shot too a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago, and they you know, it's it's
Speaker 4: about building the relationship with the coach as well, and
Speaker 4: with the entire coaching staff top to bottom. In hey, like,
Speaker 4: you can kind of gaslight yourself into thinking like maybe
Speaker 4: some of the problem. I mean, I'm not in therapy
Speaker 4: right now, but maybe some of the problem is me,
Speaker 4: like you know, and you can kind of if you're
Speaker 4: in that type of over and over week after week
Speaker 4: after week after week. It just was was such a
Speaker 4: struggle you kind of convince yourself like maybe maybe it's
Speaker 4: you know, and yeah, he's got some things to work on.
Speaker 4: And obviously, you know, any rooky quarterback will and and
Speaker 4: we don't know still what the ceiling is or even
Speaker 4: what he can look like in a consistent environment. And
Speaker 4: so I think that this is going to be really
Speaker 4: fascinating too much, not just on a schematic level or
Speaker 4: a quarterback level on the field, but also on a
Speaker 4: personal level, like can you come back from enduring that?
Speaker 4: And you know, you've you've talked to him, You've watched
Speaker 4: a lot of him over the years. And I met
Speaker 4: him at the nflp Rookie premiere out here in LA
Speaker 4: last year, and flex I know, and I was. I
Speaker 4: wandered into the wandered into the coliseum, and it was
Speaker 4: I was, actually I was all of all of these
Speaker 4: young quarterbacks, Anthony Richardson and c J. Stroud and Bryce Young.
Speaker 4: I was really struck at how mature they all seemed
Speaker 4: to beyond their years, at really really ready for the moment.
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone could have been ready for what
Speaker 4: Bryce had to deal with last year.
Speaker 1: No, And I'm glad you mentioned that, because that's why
Speaker 1: I think Canalis could uniquely be well suited to be
Speaker 1: a guy that can fix him.
Speaker 3: Because I can fix him.
Speaker 1: His Canallis has said it like his north star and
Speaker 1: what he wants to be as an NFL head coach
Speaker 1: is Pete Carroll, and Pete Carroll's have been the biggest
Speaker 1: influence on his life. He's talked about it in terms
Speaker 1: of his coaching method, and I think he is very
Speaker 1: much about building up the person and building up the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks specifically, and I think he did a great job.
Speaker 1: I think Pete Carroll did too. I think Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: has a hand in Gino Smith's success. Gino was always
Speaker 1: a confidence guy, but they built him up. They did
Speaker 1: the same thing with Baker in the very different skill sets.
Speaker 1: I think Bryce is probably closer closer to Gino and
Speaker 1: I think Canals can work with that in terms of
Speaker 1: the route concepts and the anticipation, but also just as
Speaker 1: a human like he just seems like a bundle of
Speaker 1: positive energy NonStop, and man, Carolina could have used that
Speaker 1: last season. We can use it here. Although we've got
Speaker 1: it going in this studio. Today, we're gonna listen to
Speaker 1: what Patrick or who Patrick maybe wants to right after
Speaker 1: the break back on NFL Daily, It's the latest episode
Speaker 1: of your favorite game show, I Can Fix You. It's
Speaker 1: not a game show, but we're trying to go around
Speaker 1: the NFL and we're trying to see what situations we
Speaker 1: can ameliorate.
Speaker 6: Yes, and so much of everything is related to perception,
Speaker 6: and so I am going to fix one particular one
Speaker 6: and I feel like we've come a long way in
Speaker 6: doing it just by the fact that the scenery has changed.
Speaker 5: And that is Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 6: When you consider right the coming into the season, if
Speaker 6: you had told more people that Calvin Ridley was going
Speaker 6: to cross a thousand yards, like he was going to
Speaker 6: have these catches in these touchdowns, I think they'd been like, oh,
Speaker 6: you know, he's been gone, he's been out of the game,
Speaker 6: and now he's back.
Speaker 5: That's respectable.
Speaker 6: But then the way that the season played out for
Speaker 6: the Jags, it did not put Calvin Ridley in a
Speaker 6: light of what he can do. And I don't think
Speaker 6: he was being utilized. And you mentioned Doug with reference
Speaker 6: to Evan Ingram, I think it kind of went the
Speaker 6: other way with Calvin Ridley. And by the time they
Speaker 6: figured out how to use Calvin Ridley, like not as
Speaker 6: much far outside on the X, not in motion, that's
Speaker 6: when Christian Kirk went down, and so the utilization just
Speaker 6: didn't necessarily add up. And now he's in a spot
Speaker 6: where they're not going to ask him to do those
Speaker 6: things in Nashville, and I think he can have a
Speaker 6: better season and change the way that we look at
Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley back to the way we used to when
Speaker 6: he was playing opposite Julio.
Speaker 1: Titans Sneaky Brank all compelling this year I'm into it.
Speaker 3: I'm into this whole division.
Speaker 1: Has the AFC SATH ever been more interesting from a
Speaker 1: young quarterback perspective? Definitely not, But even the Titans.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love the choice because I.
Speaker 1: Think he just went into last year with unrealistic expectations.
Speaker 1: Maybe I had it for him to his issue, and
Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence's issue and the coaching staff's issue
Speaker 1: is they just clearly weren't on the same page. He
Speaker 1: wasn't where Trevor Lawrence thought he was going to be
Speaker 1: at particular like moments in a given play or in
Speaker 1: a given game, and it just was up and down.
Speaker 1: But the physical skills are there, and you think he's
Speaker 1: this great he is a great receiver. But I was reading,
Speaker 1: you know, ESPN did the executive polls and top twenty
Speaker 1: and honorable mentions, and I noticed Calvin Ridley and DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins didn't even get into the honorable mentions. They were
Speaker 1: like on the also like ran sort of list. It
Speaker 1: was like twenty to twenty eight, And then you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: is is Calvin really and DeAndre Hopkins really down that low?
Speaker 1: But there's just that many good receivers, but they have
Speaker 1: two of them, and they have a fun young quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be fine. It's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 4: getting Calvin Ridley in this new situation and you know
Speaker 4: it's it's a new head coach, play caller, all of that,
Speaker 4: and you're going to see the quarterback has to grow
Speaker 4: up too. And I think having receivers who understand more
Speaker 4: of the league landscape, understand what things could be in
Speaker 4: different places, what things, the things that worked, the things
Speaker 4: that didn't work so much. Having that perspective and then
Speaker 4: pairing those people with a young quarterback who does you know,
Speaker 4: showed some exciting potential but still has to grow, I
Speaker 4: think that's I think that's really kind of exciting and
Speaker 4: maybe they'll maybe they'll fix each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think because when we view them perhaps separately, I
Speaker 6: think there's a difference in how the to receivers specifically
Speaker 6: in the way that you can utilize them on the
Speaker 6: field work out for each other, where the parts of
Speaker 6: their game where they don't overlap the other one can
Speaker 6: do for the other one. And so I think it
Speaker 6: alleviates a lot for Nuke on the outside to have
Speaker 6: Calvin inside on the slot and vice versa.
Speaker 5: I'm excited to see it and we'll get we'll.
Speaker 6: Get more intel on Will Levis and see like those
Speaker 6: flash spots where like, oh this is Will Levis, he's
Speaker 6: the yolo ball guy, or like was that him just
Speaker 6: because he's a rookie, right, And we just talked about
Speaker 6: we talked about earlier with Bryce, like the game can
Speaker 6: only come to you so much and you just go
Speaker 6: back to those I'll try to run somebody over, I'll
Speaker 6: try to throw the ball really far. And in this
Speaker 6: second year, with more around him, I think we can
Speaker 6: see some good stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. Their offensive line should be better.
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd's there trailing Berks. A lot of people need
Speaker 1: fixing in Tennessee. I'm going to New Orleans with my
Speaker 1: next one, and this is a mission for Clint Kubiak
Speaker 1: to look at an offense. Clint Kubiak, by the way,
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator of the Saints, of all the big
Speaker 1: changes in the entire NFL, which is going to totally change,
Speaker 1: like in one side of the ball. I feel like
Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak's got about as little pop as anyone. I
Speaker 1: get that the Saints are off the radar, but you
Speaker 1: want to talk about a stale offense.
Speaker 3: Last year they were fine.
Speaker 1: It's not like they were that bad, but it was
Speaker 1: just they had all these different things and Pete Carmichael's there,
Speaker 1: and they all didn't really work together. They were less
Speaker 1: than the sum of their parts, I thought. In New
Speaker 1: Orleans and then here comes Clint Kubiak, great lineage. Do
Speaker 1: I give him a better chance of fixing the Saints
Speaker 1: just because of his last name? I absolutely do. Like
Speaker 1: nepotism one atshell, yeah, like that's part of it. But
Speaker 1: you know what he was in Minnesota. He took over
Speaker 1: for his dad there as the offensive coordinator that magical Jefferson.
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson's season, Kirk Cuttins had a great season like
Speaker 1: that was with Kubiak. He got thrown into the Nate
Speaker 1: Hacket trump in Denver. That wasn't a lot of fun,
Speaker 1: but he was the guy who took over. Actually late
Speaker 1: in the season, the play calling upticked a little. I
Speaker 1: just feel like this offense, you're not going to get
Speaker 1: Derek Carr to be a totally different person. But Derek
Speaker 1: Carr was at his most efficient and decisive and his
Speaker 1: best under John Gruden, and I see a lot of
Speaker 1: connection here that Clint Kubiak can bring that sort of offense.
Speaker 1: And the offensive line is a little bit of a mess,
Speaker 1: but there's there's fun. There's Chris Alave, There's Rashid Shaheed Jawan.
Speaker 1: Johnson needs to be better. He's coming off an injury.
Speaker 1: Kamara and Kendre Miller at running back. It's not like
Speaker 1: he doesn't have some good players to play with, and
Speaker 1: I think it's just going to be more cohesive. And
Speaker 1: I start with the line. The personnel. I have questions
Speaker 1: about it, but coaching can make up for a lot.
Speaker 1: And when I think Gary Kubiak, I think really well
Speaker 1: coached offensive lines, really cohesive. And because Mike Shanahan kind
Speaker 1: of had a bigger presence in the NFL than him,
Speaker 1: he gets overlooked as like one of the more influential
Speaker 1: offensive minds in the last twenty five years. We'll see
Speaker 1: if the Sun can be the same, but I'm just
Speaker 1: assuming it because of the last name.
Speaker 4: I can't actually move forward with this episode until I
Speaker 4: share what I discovered. When I was on a different
Speaker 4: topic than the Saints, but I was doing some quarterbacks
Speaker 4: research for the show, and I was looking at like
Speaker 4: Sam Donald for example. We'll get to a little bit later,
Speaker 4: but then I was looking at how many Kubiaks were
Speaker 4: in San Francisco during Donald's year, which then in my
Speaker 4: notes I wrote a passle of Kubiaks. Then I started thinking,
Speaker 4: what are multiple things called in things like in groups?
Speaker 4: And I came up, I have a whole list and
Speaker 4: the best one that I thought of for the Kubiaks.
Speaker 4: So a group of Hawks is called a kettle, so
Speaker 4: we have a kettle of Kubiaks. Anyway, I just get
Speaker 4: him like the Kubii kept I kept almost laughing as
Speaker 4: you were, because I kept.
Speaker 2: Wait, there was other ones.
Speaker 1: So so Clint Kubiak, to be clear, was he got
Speaker 1: a nice little dusting of the Kyle Shanahan magic as
Speaker 1: the passing game coordinator last year. I should have mentioned
Speaker 1: that too, that's where he was with the number one offense.
Speaker 5: In the league.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the Kubiaks have been and will be.
Speaker 4: They'll permeate the league. And I was looking at like
Speaker 4: I said, I could not move forward with with any
Speaker 4: opinion until I shared that with you guys, that I discovered.
Speaker 1: That how many Kubiaks were there. I didn't know there
Speaker 1: was other multiple Kubiaks.
Speaker 5: There's there's three Kubiak children.
Speaker 6: They all coach and their first and last well obviously
Speaker 6: their last name, but all their first names start with K,
Speaker 6: so they're all KK and so a title of Kubiak
Speaker 6: absolutely perfect.
Speaker 1: I'm not into the whole keep the initial with the
Speaker 1: kids the same for every kid.
Speaker 3: Now it's a little it's a little like look at.
Speaker 5: Me, apologies to anybody who's done.
Speaker 4: That, or if that's you, I just not for me Greg,
Speaker 4: not for Greg.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Walker had no chance of being Greg. Oh,
Speaker 1: definitely not Junior. Greg is a dead name for a reason.
Speaker 1: Never like that name. But if you go and search,
Speaker 1: like you know, what are the most popular names or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they keep track of the top thousand, like Greg
Speaker 1: dropped off the entire list, Like, no one's naming their
Speaker 1: kid Greg.
Speaker 3: That's done. It's never coming back either. I don't like junior.
Speaker 1: Juniors are maybe juniors are okay, but it's more the
Speaker 1: same initial with the same letter.
Speaker 3: We're way aft track. But I'm I'm compelled by this team.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be more interesting than they
Speaker 1: were a year ago because of Clint Kubiak, I have.
Speaker 1: I have high hopes that he can have a cohesive
Speaker 1: offense and this team has a chance to win that division, whether.
Speaker 3: You like it or not.
Speaker 4: Cohesive with a K.
Speaker 1: Yes, they'll be down in Irvine. They're going to be
Speaker 1: great where the Rams used to be for training camp.
Speaker 1: You give us who you want to fix, Jordan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I've done the very subtle undermining of your
Speaker 4: topic in order to transfer it to my top.
Speaker 3: Wasn't that stuff? He called it out?
Speaker 4: New old quarterbacks, quarterbacks who have changed teams, quarterbacks who
Speaker 4: are paired with different things. So one of my hobbies
Speaker 4: is watching Chopped. I love the show Chopped on Food Network.
Speaker 4: Now it's all over on HBO. You can watch season
Speaker 4: on season on season of Chopped, and in every season,
Speaker 4: in every one out of every like six episodes, somebody
Speaker 4: tries to make polenta and it gets to a point
Speaker 4: like it's a thing over time. This is a long
Speaker 4: series has gone on for our UK listeners. The series
Speaker 4: has gone on for like decades at this point, and
Speaker 4: still people who watch the show and our chefs come
Speaker 4: into the Chopped kitchen and they try to make polenta
Speaker 4: and you just want to yell at your TV and scream,
Speaker 4: you are not the one who is going to be
Speaker 4: the first to successfully make polenta in this kitchen. Your
Speaker 4: polenta will be thick and you will be chopped. And
Speaker 4: I got to say, I think Kevin O'Connell might be
Speaker 4: able to make polenta, like I think he might be
Speaker 4: the one who can help Sam Darnold oh at least.
Speaker 4: And I'm not crowning anybody, right, but I think that
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, because of what he personally experienced as a
Speaker 4: quarterback and the way the language of his system works,
Speaker 4: I do think that he could be the one to
Speaker 4: at the very least raise a little bit of the
Speaker 4: level of play that we've seen in the past, certainly
Speaker 4: build what I have this like sneaking suspicion that they're doing,
Speaker 4: because they've been very open about they're going to give
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy time. I think they're basically installing all concepts
Speaker 4: around the quarterback who's not eventually going to be running them,
Speaker 4: but that guy will run them well enough in order
Speaker 4: to be successful himself and maybe earn a contract somewhere else,
Speaker 4: but then also show literal proof of concept not just
Speaker 4: to the younger quarterback, but also help the coaches troubleshoot
Speaker 4: those concepts, and also the skill players around as they
Speaker 4: get used to playing with the guy who they drafted
Speaker 4: quite clearly to be the long term quarterback in JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4: And I think that that's a really delicate balance. So
Speaker 4: is making polenta in the chopped kitchen. M m. She
Speaker 4: brings it for a full circle. I love it, and
Speaker 4: and that's but that's what I really do think. I
Speaker 4: do have a suspicion that they're basically installing all of
Speaker 4: the structure and having a guy who they don't need
Speaker 4: him to be Kirk Cousins or anything like that. They
Speaker 4: need like twenty twenty two Rams Baker Mayfield, Like they
Speaker 4: need a guy who can come in and like be
Speaker 4: a good leader, be exciting, be able to execute these concepts,
Speaker 4: raise the offense just a little bit as the offense
Speaker 4: in turn raises him, and provide, like develop all of
Speaker 4: this structure around who the eventual plug in quarterback is
Speaker 4: going to be.
Speaker 1: That all makes sense to me, and I think it's
Speaker 1: a great situation that he's entering. But he's lent for
Speaker 1: a reason, and like he was in a great kitchen
Speaker 1: last year, you know, he was in San Francisco. And
Speaker 1: I know it's only like fifty dropbacks or whatever, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't kidding, just like the real reps, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: look like the same guy. It's funny polenta to chop, this,
Speaker 1: risotto to top Chef.
Speaker 3: You don't want to make risotta and top Chef.
Speaker 4: I don't think you'd want to make Risota and chopped either, But.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I need you to be an expert on polenta
Speaker 6: and ham Donald, right, I need you to be an
Speaker 6: ice cream machine expert if you're going to go in
Speaker 6: that chop kitchen.
Speaker 5: And utilize the ice cream machine. Oh yeah, Patch, I
Speaker 5: don't want to see it over mixed, all right, And.
Speaker 6: I'm ready to believe, Jordan, I'm I'm I'm ready to believe.
Speaker 6: But the skepticism is is very hard to let go,
Speaker 6: uh with mister Donald.
Speaker 4: And I'm but let me be clear, I'm not I'm
Speaker 4: not crowning anybody. I'm not saying he's going to come
Speaker 4: light the world on fire or anything like that. I'm
Speaker 4: saying he's going to be able to basically be there
Speaker 4: to help this entire structure of this offense develop the
Speaker 4: way that it needs to, and then maybe he'll get
Speaker 4: a solid contract out of it. And then and then
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy comes in, and it's a ready to run
Speaker 4: offense and obviously superstars you know in a couple of
Speaker 4: especially a receiver, but like you're and you're also showing
Speaker 4: proof of concept. Basically you're showing what the chop chefs
Speaker 4: not to do. But then somehow they still do it.
Speaker 4: Because every coach thinks that they can be the guy
Speaker 4: to fix the quarterback. And that's kind of the you know,
Speaker 4: Sean Payton Zach Wilson situation, like I can fix him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a different connotation.
Speaker 1: He is the king of this exercise. He is the
Speaker 1: I can fix you guy, and to his credit, he's
Speaker 1: done a good job with almost any quarterback he's ever had.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of a case for Sam Donald to
Speaker 6: be the ideal bridge.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody gets what they want out of it. We
Speaker 6: come in knowing like, hey, this is this is not
Speaker 6: your case. Keenum run where maybe we keep you an
Speaker 6: extra too long, like we already have the plan, do
Speaker 6: your bridge job, go somewhere else.
Speaker 5: Good luck to you. JJ's our guy. It could work
Speaker 5: out for.
Speaker 1: Everything, right, someone will pay you too much money because
Speaker 1: they still believe in that in that Cash profile that
Speaker 1: they wrote in twenty eighteen, like, no one wants to
Speaker 1: give up whatever they thought five years ago, even if
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold shows otherwise.
Speaker 3: Let's wrap up with Patrick. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I talked about the Cowboys running game from last season,
Speaker 6: and I think we can fix Tony Pollard. Yes, and
Speaker 6: I think time fixes Tony Pollard. Because Tony Pollard had
Speaker 6: he had the strap ankle surgery in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6: He also was coming off of a fractured fibula, and
Speaker 6: of course, like the idea of Tony Pollard carrying more
Speaker 6: of the load, being the main driver in his yards
Speaker 6: per carry and everything else dropping off, I think him
Speaker 6: being hurt. What's the biggest driver in the yards for
Speaker 6: carry dropping off? And so the home runs weren't there,
Speaker 6: and it's kind of like you have a home run
Speaker 6: hitter that can't hit it to the fence anymore, and
Speaker 6: like what do you do. I think Tony Pollard has
Speaker 6: plenty of gas left and we'll have a spectacular season
Speaker 6: for multiple Titans.
Speaker 3: I'm all on board, baby, I love it.
Speaker 1: Justin Graver is listening somewhere and thinking, like, yes, we're
Speaker 1: finally getting some attention on this show.
Speaker 3: He's compelling.
Speaker 1: I don't think he had confidence in the leg last year,
Speaker 1: and you do hope that returns. There's no guarantee at
Speaker 1: running back that you're gonna run with that same energy
Speaker 1: juice throughout your career. That's kind of what goes at
Speaker 1: some point when you get older. But he's not old
Speaker 1: to your point, and he's in a great situation with
Speaker 1: Tajy Spears where the two of them, I think you
Speaker 1: can keep them on the field for an entire drive
Speaker 1: and then the other one can take over. They can
Speaker 1: both do everything, and I think they will compliment each
Speaker 1: other well. I think they're one of the best backfields
Speaker 1: in the league. And if you get Pollard of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two with twenty twenty four Taj Spears, you're cooking
Speaker 1: with gas. I'd rather have that than Derrick Henry. As
Speaker 1: much as I like Derrick Henry, I'd much rather have
Speaker 1: that Doo.
Speaker 4: I do think that's kind of a magic sauce you'll
Speaker 4: start to see moving forward. Is like running backs who
Speaker 4: can like sort of seamlessly take over for each other
Speaker 4: in a way that's both complementary and supplementary. Specifically to
Speaker 4: the fatigue and the exertion placed on the body, particularly
Speaker 4: coming out of injuries like that. I think it's a
Speaker 4: great situation for him. I also I am a fan
Speaker 4: of this of this backfield here, and I think, again,
Speaker 4: help out the young quarterback. You know, the quarterback's got
Speaker 4: to make a jump year one year or two, and
Speaker 4: all of these players around him, including this run system
Speaker 4: that they're going to install there, it's like, help out
Speaker 4: the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so again, help us, help you.
Speaker 1: We have fixed the Tennessee Titans. We fix so much
Speaker 1: around the NFL. It's that time of year. It's happening, folks.
Speaker 1: Training camp is off and running. It is really here.
Speaker 1: This is week three of the NFL Daily Podcast, and
Speaker 1: we really appreciate everyone who has been tuning in. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the news is going to start flying. People are going
Speaker 1: to start flying all over the cut Tree. Patrick will
Speaker 1: be going to inside training camp, but he will be
Speaker 1: back later this week before he does all that. Jordan
Speaker 1: Rodrigue will be going to training camp and she'll be
Speaker 1: back on this show.
Speaker 3: But until then, I'm Greg Rosenthal. See you next time.