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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are staying in the

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Speaker 1: race to the regular season. I'm Greg Rosenthal and beyond

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Speaker 1: Lucky today, to be joined later in the show very

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Speaker 1: soon by Jordan rod Riege of The Athletic and Patrick

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Speaker 1: Claybah and we're going to do a segment called I

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Speaker 1: Can Fix It about some reclamation projects.

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Speaker 2: But before that, I want to get you.

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Speaker 1: Caught up quickly on all the news that's happened over

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Speaker 1: the weekend since we last taped. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this show being daily is training Camp.

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Speaker 1: It is perfect for training camp because I want to

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Speaker 1: have a spot for you guys where we can keep

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Speaker 1: you up to date about what's going on with all

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Speaker 1: thirty two teams. And look camp started. Texans Bear is

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Speaker 1: half a weekend. Ravens Chiefs Full Veterans practice for the

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Speaker 1: first time on Sunday. So Randy hit the music here.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep this quick, but let's get to

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Speaker 1: things we learned over the last few days. Number one,

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Speaker 1: biggest one, Shaq Barrett retired. This really hurts the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: You might not think this is that huge of news,

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Speaker 1: but seven million dollars they gave him because they have

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Speaker 1: no edge presence whatsoever. With Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb

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Speaker 1: both coming off torn acls. They're on the pupig list,

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Speaker 1: like who knows when they're going to be back. Sorry

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Speaker 1: for Shaq Barrett, really unique career, third edge rusher for

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Speaker 1: the Broncos when they won the Super Bowl. Helped put

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Speaker 1: They're really one of the best free agent signings of

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Speaker 1: and the Dolphins are thin there.

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Speaker 2: They have two healthy edges right now.

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Speaker 1: If you looked at who's at top their depth jar

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Speaker 1: Networks cam Wolfe said they will work out Emmanuel Ogba.

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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if that deal gets done

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Speaker 1: because they were counting on Barrett to play big snaps.

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Speaker 1: But I know that must have been a tough decision.

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Speaker 1: He tragically to his daughter in an accident a year ago,

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Speaker 1: decide to play one more season, but says he wants

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Speaker 1: to be with his family and happy trails to Shack

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Speaker 1: Bear at great career. Sadly, another player whose career might

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Speaker 1: be ending. We learned since we last tape was Ryan

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Speaker 1: Ramcheck placed on the reserve pup list for the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Right tackle who made three All Pro teams, one first team,

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Speaker 1: but it sounds like he is not going to play

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Speaker 1: football ever again. Just could not get that back healthy.

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Speaker 1: It's a shame and it's an issue for the Saints.

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Speaker 1: If you look at their offensive tackle position, they have

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Speaker 1: no idea who their right tackle is, so that's a

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Speaker 1: big problem spot. It might be Trevor Penning speaking of

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Speaker 1: needing fixing, like he needs fixing the Saints. Their offensive

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Speaker 1: line needs fixing. We'll get to that. The Saints did

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Speaker 1: have other good news. This is my third item. Rashid

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Speaker 1: Shahed signed a one year, five point two million dollar.

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Speaker 1: He was actually signed for twenty twenty four, so he's.

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Speaker 2: Just about the most.

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Speaker 1: Underpaid wide receiver in football now for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: That is an incredible bit of business. I never fault

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Speaker 1: He has not made much money in his career, but man,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love reported to training camp. Nice this big sigh

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Speaker 1: The Bears I mentioned have been practicing. They're my fifth item.

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Speaker 1: They want to get Caleb Williams to get some reps

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Speaker 1: Maybe he'll even be in the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a better football player than Rashie Rice.

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Speaker 2: And you know it's the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: When Lamar Jackson is out with an illness, I just

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Speaker 2: Mike Williams on the pup list for the Jets.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on him, but that's not a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Eric Armstead been hurt a lot over the years. Big

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Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport of the Lions, DJ Reader of the Lions,

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Speaker 1: They can be taken off at any time, but those

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the Jaguars prowler throwbacks.

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Speaker 1: These are the best Jaguars jerseys. They're going to be

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Speaker 1: will rap with Corey Dillon finally making the Bengals Ring

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Speaker 2: This is overdue.

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Speaker 1: Actually think he has a chance, if the right people

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling was on this podcast with me he would agree.

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Speaker 1: Corey Dillon is one of the most underrated and elite

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Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, Corey Dylon would have

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Speaker 1: the Patriots traded for him and they fixed them and

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Speaker 1: they changed his career. Let's listen to this segment was

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I can fix them. So yes,

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Speaker 1: here with Jordan Rodrigue and Patrick Claybahn and I love

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Speaker 1: this idea of a segment here, and it's from Jordan's

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Speaker 3: You can explain it to us.

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Speaker 4: But not what I thought you were going to say.

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Speaker 4: But thank you for saying it that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what thought I was going to say.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's that time of year where you look

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Speaker 1: at different coaches, different teams, you look at them in

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Speaker 3: People did with them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think we've all been there, right, Whether

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Speaker 4: it's the fixer upper house that you purchase, it's the

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Speaker 4: car that you're going to save from destruction, it's the

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Speaker 4: relationship you get into. I can fix him, whether it's

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Speaker 4: the songwriters writing these these lyrics about you know, the

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Speaker 4: person they genuinely tried with. You know, this is I

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Speaker 4: think the NFL every year, this is Hope season right

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Speaker 4: pre training camp. We're heading into training camp. More training

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Speaker 4: camps are opening this week, and everybody has got in

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, like if you put into words like maybe those

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Speaker 3: No performances that that has to be.

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Speaker 1: Like I've heard that as like like a wedding song

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Speaker 6: I actually, speaking of wedding songs, I do have a

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Speaker 6: that they danced to was the Broken Road, which felt

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Speaker 4: Oh is this the one? The Broken Roads?

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Speaker 6: But but yeah, especially in the nfl R viewpoint where

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Speaker 4: Happens, and you can always get what you want. But

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Speaker 3: It happens.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about it with Evan Ingram's recent contract,

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Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't say he needed fixing, but Doug Peterson

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Speaker 1: and now he's got that big long term deal. So

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Speaker 1: I want you to start with us. Jordan, it was

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Speaker 1: your brain child. I can fix it, your baby, you

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to go with the Eagles in general. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'd like you guys to interject at various points because

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Speaker 4: I am a rambler, and as I ramble on through

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Speaker 4: this thing we called light call life, I'd rather not

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Speaker 4: think that on this show. I'd rather be a little

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Speaker 4: bit more succinct. But I'm gonna start with the offense, Okay,

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Speaker 1: But Dave Canalis was that coach along with Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: in Seattle. Baker Mayfield very different quarterback, I think in

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Speaker 1: terms of skill set to Gino Smith. So the fact

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Speaker 1: that he made it work with these two guys, Gino

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Speaker 1: who's so good at seeing things ahead of time, and

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield who's not, and getting Baker to anticipate and

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Speaker 1: get rid of the ball quicker and Dave Canawis did

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Speaker 1: a great job with that. And when you look at

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Speaker 1: what Bryce Young should be able to be good at

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Speaker 1: at the NFL level, it is that anticipation. It is

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Speaker 1: that ability to see the field that is very tough

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Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But it seemed like it was coming along by the

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Speaker 3: end of the year.

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Speaker 1: And you listen to Canalis and we're going to take

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Speaker 1: a listen to him at the combine this year and look,

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Speaker 1: just listen to the man himself.

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Speaker 7: No plan to fix Bryce Young. I think for me,

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Speaker 7: it's it's about building an offense that we can be

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Speaker 7: proud of, something that something that is tough, something that

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Speaker 7: is smart, that that takes care of the football. Number one,

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Speaker 7: we got to create more explosives and then and then

458
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Speaker 7: of course we have to minimize damage with exotic pressures

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Speaker 7: and things like that. So I think just elevating the

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Speaker 7: whole group and and really asking Bryce to just do

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Speaker 7: his part.

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Speaker 1: Patrick, you watched a lot of Bryce Young tape over

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Speaker 1: the year I did, and tough first year. What are

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Speaker 1: you what are you hoping for here?

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Speaker 6: Well, Dave canel else, his task is to fix the

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Speaker 6: Carolina Panthers, I think first and foremost, so we could

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Speaker 6: see I believe in Bryce, but I can understand the

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Speaker 6: people who didn't get a chance right to see him

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Speaker 6: out here in high school or to see him in

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Speaker 6: Tuscaloosa to see what other people believe in. But the

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Speaker 6: offense itself was so bad that it was just impossible

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Speaker 6: to evaluate the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And so you see, like his.

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Speaker 6: Rating when targeting Adam Thielen was one hundred and two, right,

475
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Speaker 6: Tommy Trimble one five. Like there's places where you saw

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Speaker 6: Bryce be successful, but the overall product was so difficult

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Speaker 6: for anybody to deal, and I struggle to think of

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Speaker 6: a quarterback that we could just place in that situation

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Speaker 6: year one with that team and say, hey, be successful.

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Speaker 6: Of course, like the greats wouldn't be bad, but for

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Speaker 6: a rookie, that was a heavy list.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't necessarily have like the creativity or the physical

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Speaker 1: traits in terms of his movement or his big arm

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Speaker 1: to just like wow you to get over that bad

485
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Speaker 1: of a situation. But if you watch those last four games,

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Speaker 1: I do think it got a little lost in the

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Speaker 1: shuffle PFF's grades for the final four weeks of the season.

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Speaker 1: He was twelfth in passing. I went and watched a

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Speaker 1: lot of it, and yeah, the arm doesn't overwhelm you.

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Speaker 1: But he hit a number of deep sideline throws that

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Speaker 1: showed anticipation, a guy that understood coverages, that was always

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Speaker 1: throwing before the guy made his break, which you don't

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Speaker 1: always see out of rookie quarterbacks, and putting it in

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Speaker 1: the right spot, and a little bit of creativity more

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Speaker 1: than you would expect, more than I would say you

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Speaker 1: saw seeaut A two A tongue to a tongue of

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Speaker 1: I loa And I bring up that name because I

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Speaker 1: think if you just close your eyes and you watch

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Speaker 1: those four games, and for the most part, he looked

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Speaker 1: like a real NFL quarterback. I see similarities with Tua

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Speaker 1: of anticipating getting rid of the ball quickly putting it

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Speaker 1: right on the money, and I think he can win

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Speaker 1: in the same sorts of ways that Tua did. But

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Speaker 1: he had a number of throws kind of running left,

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Speaker 1: running right that was like, Okay, that's Pryce Young. And

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Speaker 1: I think those four games should give him some confidence

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Speaker 1: going into this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a really interesting situation saying that kindly,

509
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Speaker 4: and that we don't even still really know what his

510
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Speaker 4: ceiling is, but that roster last year lowered his floor,

511
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Speaker 4: and that was that was hard to watch at times.

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Speaker 4: I remember so you brought up the Dolphins. I remember

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Speaker 4: when Mike McDaniel was asked about him, you know, when

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Speaker 4: the teams were about to play each other, and he

515
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Speaker 4: just he raved about some of the same things that

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Speaker 4: he loves in Tua. And I think that so many

517
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Speaker 4: times last year when when watching the Panthers kind of

518
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Speaker 4: just get in their own way a little bit, you

519
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Speaker 4: just thought, man, I'd love to see him like in

520
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Speaker 4: an actual version of that system that the Dolphins are running, giving,

521
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Speaker 4: getting weapons all around, helping the quarterback in a few

522
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Speaker 4: different ways, but then also building confidence in the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Let's not forget too is confident was shot too a

524
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Speaker 4: couple of years ago, and they you know, it's it's

525
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Speaker 4: about building the relationship with the coach as well, and

526
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Speaker 4: with the entire coaching staff top to bottom. In hey, like,

527
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Speaker 4: you can kind of gaslight yourself into thinking like maybe

528
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Speaker 4: some of the problem. I mean, I'm not in therapy

529
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Speaker 4: right now, but maybe some of the problem is me,

530
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Speaker 4: like you know, and you can kind of if you're

531
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Speaker 4: in that type of over and over week after week

532
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Speaker 4: after week after week. It just was was such a

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Speaker 4: struggle you kind of convince yourself like maybe maybe it's

534
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Speaker 4: you know, and yeah, he's got some things to work on.

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Speaker 4: And obviously, you know, any rooky quarterback will and and

536
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Speaker 4: we don't know still what the ceiling is or even

537
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Speaker 4: what he can look like in a consistent environment. And

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Speaker 4: so I think that this is going to be really

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Speaker 4: fascinating too much, not just on a schematic level or

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Speaker 4: a quarterback level on the field, but also on a

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Speaker 4: personal level, like can you come back from enduring that?

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Speaker 4: And you know, you've you've talked to him, You've watched

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Speaker 4: a lot of him over the years. And I met

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Speaker 4: him at the nflp Rookie premiere out here in LA

545
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Speaker 4: last year, and flex I know, and I was. I

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Speaker 4: wandered into the wandered into the coliseum, and it was

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Speaker 4: I was, actually I was all of all of these

548
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Speaker 4: young quarterbacks, Anthony Richardson and c J. Stroud and Bryce Young.

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Speaker 4: I was really struck at how mature they all seemed

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Speaker 4: to beyond their years, at really really ready for the moment.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone could have been ready for what

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Speaker 4: Bryce had to deal with last year.

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Speaker 1: No, And I'm glad you mentioned that, because that's why

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Speaker 1: I think Canalis could uniquely be well suited to be

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Speaker 1: a guy that can fix him.

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Speaker 3: Because I can fix him.

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Speaker 1: His Canallis has said it like his north star and

558
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Speaker 1: what he wants to be as an NFL head coach

559
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Speaker 1: is Pete Carroll, and Pete Carroll's have been the biggest

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Speaker 1: influence on his life. He's talked about it in terms

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Speaker 1: of his coaching method, and I think he is very

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Speaker 1: much about building up the person and building up the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks specifically, and I think he did a great job.

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Speaker 1: I think Pete Carroll did too. I think Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: has a hand in Gino Smith's success. Gino was always

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Speaker 1: a confidence guy, but they built him up. They did

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Speaker 1: the same thing with Baker in the very different skill sets.

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Speaker 1: I think Bryce is probably closer closer to Gino and

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Speaker 1: I think Canals can work with that in terms of

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Speaker 1: the route concepts and the anticipation, but also just as

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Speaker 1: a human like he just seems like a bundle of

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Speaker 1: positive energy NonStop, and man, Carolina could have used that

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Speaker 1: last season. We can use it here. Although we've got

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Speaker 1: it going in this studio. Today, we're gonna listen to

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Speaker 1: what Patrick or who Patrick maybe wants to right after

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Speaker 1: the break back on NFL Daily, It's the latest episode

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Speaker 1: of your favorite game show, I Can Fix You. It's

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Speaker 1: not a game show, but we're trying to go around

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Speaker 1: the NFL and we're trying to see what situations we

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Speaker 1: can ameliorate.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and so much of everything is related to perception,

582
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Speaker 6: and so I am going to fix one particular one

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Speaker 6: and I feel like we've come a long way in

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Speaker 6: doing it just by the fact that the scenery has changed.

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Speaker 5: And that is Calvin Ridley.

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Speaker 6: When you consider right the coming into the season, if

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Speaker 6: you had told more people that Calvin Ridley was going

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Speaker 6: to cross a thousand yards, like he was going to

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Speaker 6: have these catches in these touchdowns, I think they'd been like, oh,

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Speaker 6: you know, he's been gone, he's been out of the game,

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Speaker 6: and now he's back.

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Speaker 5: That's respectable.

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Speaker 6: But then the way that the season played out for

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Speaker 6: the Jags, it did not put Calvin Ridley in a

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Speaker 6: light of what he can do. And I don't think

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Speaker 6: he was being utilized. And you mentioned Doug with reference

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Speaker 6: to Evan Ingram, I think it kind of went the

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Speaker 6: other way with Calvin Ridley. And by the time they

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Speaker 6: figured out how to use Calvin Ridley, like not as

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Speaker 6: much far outside on the X, not in motion, that's

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Speaker 6: when Christian Kirk went down, and so the utilization just

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Speaker 6: didn't necessarily add up. And now he's in a spot

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Speaker 6: where they're not going to ask him to do those

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Speaker 6: things in Nashville, and I think he can have a

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Speaker 6: better season and change the way that we look at

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Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley back to the way we used to when

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Speaker 6: he was playing opposite Julio.

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Speaker 1: Titans Sneaky Brank all compelling this year I'm into it.

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Speaker 3: I'm into this whole division.

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Speaker 1: Has the AFC SATH ever been more interesting from a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback perspective? Definitely not, But even the Titans.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love the choice because I.

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Speaker 1: Think he just went into last year with unrealistic expectations.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I had it for him to his issue, and

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Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence's issue and the coaching staff's issue

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Speaker 1: is they just clearly weren't on the same page. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't where Trevor Lawrence thought he was going to be

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Speaker 1: at particular like moments in a given play or in

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Speaker 1: a given game, and it just was up and down.

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Speaker 1: But the physical skills are there, and you think he's

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Speaker 1: this great he is a great receiver. But I was reading,

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Speaker 1: you know, ESPN did the executive polls and top twenty

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Speaker 1: and honorable mentions, and I noticed Calvin Ridley and DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins didn't even get into the honorable mentions. They were

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Speaker 1: like on the also like ran sort of list. It

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Speaker 1: was like twenty to twenty eight, And then you're like, wow,

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Speaker 1: is is Calvin really and DeAndre Hopkins really down that low?

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Speaker 1: But there's just that many good receivers, but they have

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Speaker 1: two of them, and they have a fun young quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to be fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be fine. It's kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 4: getting Calvin Ridley in this new situation and you know

633
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: it's it's a new head coach, play caller, all of that,

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Speaker 4: and you're going to see the quarterback has to grow

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Speaker 4: up too. And I think having receivers who understand more

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Speaker 4: of the league landscape, understand what things could be in

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Speaker 4: different places, what things, the things that worked, the things

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Speaker 4: that didn't work so much. Having that perspective and then

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Speaker 4: pairing those people with a young quarterback who does you know,

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Speaker 4: showed some exciting potential but still has to grow, I

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Speaker 4: think that's I think that's really kind of exciting and

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Speaker 4: maybe they'll maybe they'll fix each other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think because when we view them perhaps separately, I

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Speaker 6: think there's a difference in how the to receivers specifically

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Speaker 6: in the way that you can utilize them on the

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Speaker 6: field work out for each other, where the parts of

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Speaker 6: their game where they don't overlap the other one can

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Speaker 6: do for the other one. And so I think it

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Speaker 6: alleviates a lot for Nuke on the outside to have

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Speaker 6: Calvin inside on the slot and vice versa.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited to see it and we'll get we'll.

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Speaker 6: Get more intel on Will Levis and see like those

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Speaker 6: flash spots where like, oh this is Will Levis, he's

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Speaker 6: the yolo ball guy, or like was that him just

656
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 6: because he's a rookie, right, And we just talked about

657
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 6: we talked about earlier with Bryce, like the game can

658
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 6: only come to you so much and you just go

659
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Speaker 6: back to those I'll try to run somebody over, I'll

660
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 6: try to throw the ball really far. And in this

661
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 6: second year, with more around him, I think we can

662
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Speaker 6: see some good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. Their offensive line should be better.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd's there trailing Berks. A lot of people need

665
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Speaker 1: fixing in Tennessee. I'm going to New Orleans with my

666
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: next one, and this is a mission for Clint Kubiak

667
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Speaker 1: to look at an offense. Clint Kubiak, by the way,

668
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator of the Saints, of all the big

669
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: changes in the entire NFL, which is going to totally change,

670
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: like in one side of the ball. I feel like

671
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Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak's got about as little pop as anyone. I

672
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: get that the Saints are off the radar, but you

673
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: want to talk about a stale offense.

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Speaker 3: Last year they were fine.

675
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Speaker 1: It's not like they were that bad, but it was

676
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Speaker 1: just they had all these different things and Pete Carmichael's there,

677
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Speaker 1: and they all didn't really work together. They were less

678
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Speaker 1: than the sum of their parts, I thought. In New

679
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Orleans and then here comes Clint Kubiak, great lineage. Do

680
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: I give him a better chance of fixing the Saints

681
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: just because of his last name? I absolutely do. Like

682
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: nepotism one atshell, yeah, like that's part of it. But

683
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: you know what he was in Minnesota. He took over

684
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: for his dad there as the offensive coordinator that magical Jefferson.

685
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson's season, Kirk Cuttins had a great season like

686
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Speaker 1: that was with Kubiak. He got thrown into the Nate

687
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: Hacket trump in Denver. That wasn't a lot of fun,

688
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: but he was the guy who took over. Actually late

689
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: in the season, the play calling upticked a little. I

690
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: just feel like this offense, you're not going to get

691
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: Derek Carr to be a totally different person. But Derek

692
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: Carr was at his most efficient and decisive and his

693
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: best under John Gruden, and I see a lot of

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Speaker 1: connection here that Clint Kubiak can bring that sort of offense.

695
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: And the offensive line is a little bit of a mess,

696
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: but there's there's fun. There's Chris Alave, There's Rashid Shaheed Jawan.

697
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: Johnson needs to be better. He's coming off an injury.

698
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: Kamara and Kendre Miller at running back. It's not like

699
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: he doesn't have some good players to play with, and

700
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Speaker 1: I think it's just going to be more cohesive. And

701
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Speaker 1: I start with the line. The personnel. I have questions

702
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Speaker 1: about it, but coaching can make up for a lot.

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Speaker 1: And when I think Gary Kubiak, I think really well

704
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: coached offensive lines, really cohesive. And because Mike Shanahan kind

705
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: of had a bigger presence in the NFL than him,

706
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: he gets overlooked as like one of the more influential

707
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: offensive minds in the last twenty five years. We'll see

708
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: if the Sun can be the same, but I'm just

709
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Speaker 1: assuming it because of the last name.

710
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Speaker 4: I can't actually move forward with this episode until I

711
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 4: share what I discovered. When I was on a different

712
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: topic than the Saints, but I was doing some quarterbacks

713
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 4: research for the show, and I was looking at like

714
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Speaker 4: Sam Donald for example. We'll get to a little bit later,

715
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Speaker 4: but then I was looking at how many Kubiaks were

716
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Speaker 4: in San Francisco during Donald's year, which then in my

717
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 4: notes I wrote a passle of Kubiaks. Then I started thinking,

718
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 4: what are multiple things called in things like in groups?

719
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Speaker 4: And I came up, I have a whole list and

720
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Speaker 4: the best one that I thought of for the Kubiaks.

721
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Speaker 4: So a group of Hawks is called a kettle, so

722
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Speaker 4: we have a kettle of Kubiaks. Anyway, I just get

723
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Speaker 4: him like the Kubii kept I kept almost laughing as

724
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Speaker 4: you were, because I kept.

725
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Speaker 2: Wait, there was other ones.

726
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Speaker 1: So so Clint Kubiak, to be clear, was he got

727
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: a nice little dusting of the Kyle Shanahan magic as

728
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Speaker 1: the passing game coordinator last year. I should have mentioned

729
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Speaker 1: that too, that's where he was with the number one offense.

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Speaker 5: In the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the Kubiaks have been and will be.

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Speaker 4: They'll permeate the league. And I was looking at like

733
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Speaker 4: I said, I could not move forward with with any

734
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Speaker 4: opinion until I shared that with you guys, that I discovered.

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Speaker 1: That how many Kubiaks were there. I didn't know there

736
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: was other multiple Kubiaks.

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Speaker 5: There's there's three Kubiak children.

738
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Speaker 6: They all coach and their first and last well obviously

739
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 6: their last name, but all their first names start with K,

740
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Speaker 6: so they're all KK and so a title of Kubiak

741
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Speaker 6: absolutely perfect.

742
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Speaker 1: I'm not into the whole keep the initial with the

743
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Speaker 1: kids the same for every kid.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a little it's a little like look at.

745
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Speaker 5: Me, apologies to anybody who's done.

746
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Speaker 4: That, or if that's you, I just not for me Greg,

747
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: not for Greg.

748
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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Walker had no chance of being Greg. Oh,

749
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Speaker 1: definitely not Junior. Greg is a dead name for a reason.

750
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Never like that name. But if you go and search,

751
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: like you know, what are the most popular names or whatever,

752
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: and they keep track of the top thousand, like Greg

753
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: dropped off the entire list, Like, no one's naming their

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Speaker 1: kid Greg.

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Speaker 3: That's done. It's never coming back either. I don't like junior.

756
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Speaker 1: Juniors are maybe juniors are okay, but it's more the

757
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Speaker 1: same initial with the same letter.

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Speaker 3: We're way aft track. But I'm I'm compelled by this team.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to be more interesting than they

760
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Speaker 1: were a year ago because of Clint Kubiak, I have.

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Speaker 1: I have high hopes that he can have a cohesive

762
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Speaker 1: offense and this team has a chance to win that division, whether.

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Speaker 3: You like it or not.

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Speaker 4: Cohesive with a K.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they'll be down in Irvine. They're going to be

766
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: great where the Rams used to be for training camp.

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Speaker 1: You give us who you want to fix, Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I've done the very subtle undermining of your

769
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Speaker 4: topic in order to transfer it to my top.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't that stuff? He called it out?

771
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Speaker 4: New old quarterbacks, quarterbacks who have changed teams, quarterbacks who

772
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Speaker 4: are paired with different things. So one of my hobbies

773
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Speaker 4: is watching Chopped. I love the show Chopped on Food Network.

774
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: Now it's all over on HBO. You can watch season

775
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: on season on season of Chopped, and in every season,

776
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 4: in every one out of every like six episodes, somebody

777
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 4: tries to make polenta and it gets to a point

778
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Speaker 4: like it's a thing over time. This is a long

779
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 4: series has gone on for our UK listeners. The series

780
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: has gone on for like decades at this point, and

781
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: still people who watch the show and our chefs come

782
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: into the Chopped kitchen and they try to make polenta

783
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 4: and you just want to yell at your TV and scream,

784
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Speaker 4: you are not the one who is going to be

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Speaker 4: the first to successfully make polenta in this kitchen. Your

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Speaker 4: polenta will be thick and you will be chopped. And

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Speaker 4: I got to say, I think Kevin O'Connell might be

788
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: able to make polenta, like I think he might be

789
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Speaker 4: the one who can help Sam Darnold oh at least.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not crowning anybody, right, but I think that

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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, because of what he personally experienced as a

792
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Speaker 4: quarterback and the way the language of his system works,

793
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Speaker 4: I do think that he could be the one to

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Speaker 4: at the very least raise a little bit of the

795
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Speaker 4: level of play that we've seen in the past, certainly

796
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Speaker 4: build what I have this like sneaking suspicion that they're doing,

797
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: because they've been very open about they're going to give

798
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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy time. I think they're basically installing all concepts

799
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Speaker 4: around the quarterback who's not eventually going to be running them,

800
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 4: but that guy will run them well enough in order

801
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: to be successful himself and maybe earn a contract somewhere else,

802
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: but then also show literal proof of concept not just

803
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: to the younger quarterback, but also help the coaches troubleshoot

804
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: those concepts, and also the skill players around as they

805
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 4: get used to playing with the guy who they drafted

806
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: quite clearly to be the long term quarterback in JJ McCarthy.

807
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Speaker 4: And I think that that's a really delicate balance. So

808
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 4: is making polenta in the chopped kitchen. M m. She

809
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: brings it for a full circle. I love it, and

810
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: and that's but that's what I really do think. I

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Speaker 4: do have a suspicion that they're basically installing all of

812
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Speaker 4: the structure and having a guy who they don't need

813
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Speaker 4: him to be Kirk Cousins or anything like that. They

814
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: need like twenty twenty two Rams Baker Mayfield, Like they

815
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: need a guy who can come in and like be

816
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: a good leader, be exciting, be able to execute these concepts,

817
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 4: raise the offense just a little bit as the offense

818
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Speaker 4: in turn raises him, and provide, like develop all of

819
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Speaker 4: this structure around who the eventual plug in quarterback is

820
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Speaker 4: going to be.

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Speaker 1: That all makes sense to me, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: a great situation that he's entering. But he's lent for

823
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Speaker 1: a reason, and like he was in a great kitchen

824
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: last year, you know, he was in San Francisco. And

825
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: I know it's only like fifty dropbacks or whatever, but

826
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't kidding, just like the real reps, like, yeah,

827
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Speaker 1: look like the same guy. It's funny polenta to chop, this,

828
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Speaker 1: risotto to top Chef.

829
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Speaker 3: You don't want to make risotta and top Chef.

830
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Speaker 4: I don't think you'd want to make Risota and chopped either, But.

831
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I need you to be an expert on polenta

832
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 6: and ham Donald, right, I need you to be an

833
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 6: ice cream machine expert if you're going to go in

834
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 6: that chop kitchen.

835
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Speaker 5: And utilize the ice cream machine. Oh yeah, Patch, I

836
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 5: don't want to see it over mixed, all right, And.

837
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Speaker 6: I'm ready to believe, Jordan, I'm I'm I'm ready to believe.

838
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 6: But the skepticism is is very hard to let go,

839
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Speaker 6: uh with mister Donald.

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Speaker 4: And I'm but let me be clear, I'm not I'm

841
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: not crowning anybody. I'm not saying he's going to come

842
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 4: light the world on fire or anything like that. I'm

843
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: saying he's going to be able to basically be there

844
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: to help this entire structure of this offense develop the

845
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 4: way that it needs to, and then maybe he'll get

846
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: a solid contract out of it. And then and then

847
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy comes in, and it's a ready to run

848
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 4: offense and obviously superstars you know in a couple of

849
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: especially a receiver, but like you're and you're also showing

850
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: proof of concept. Basically you're showing what the chop chefs

851
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: not to do. But then somehow they still do it.

852
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 4: Because every coach thinks that they can be the guy

853
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 4: to fix the quarterback. And that's kind of the you know,

854
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: Sean Payton Zach Wilson situation, like I can fix him. Yeah,

855
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: it's a different connotation.

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00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: He is the king of this exercise. He is the

857
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: I can fix you guy, and to his credit, he's

858
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: done a good job with almost any quarterback he's ever had.

859
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of a case for Sam Donald to

860
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 6: be the ideal bridge.

861
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

862
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody gets what they want out of it. We

863
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 6: come in knowing like, hey, this is this is not

864
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 6: your case. Keenum run where maybe we keep you an

865
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 6: extra too long, like we already have the plan, do

866
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 6: your bridge job, go somewhere else.

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Speaker 5: Good luck to you. JJ's our guy. It could work

868
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Speaker 5: out for.

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Speaker 1: Everything, right, someone will pay you too much money because

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Speaker 1: they still believe in that in that Cash profile that

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Speaker 1: they wrote in twenty eighteen, like, no one wants to

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Speaker 1: give up whatever they thought five years ago, even if

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold shows otherwise.

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Speaker 3: Let's wrap up with Patrick. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I talked about the Cowboys running game from last season,

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Speaker 6: and I think we can fix Tony Pollard. Yes, and

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Speaker 6: I think time fixes Tony Pollard. Because Tony Pollard had

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Speaker 6: he had the strap ankle surgery in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 6: He also was coming off of a fractured fibula, and

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Speaker 6: of course, like the idea of Tony Pollard carrying more

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Speaker 6: of the load, being the main driver in his yards

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Speaker 6: per carry and everything else dropping off, I think him

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Speaker 6: being hurt. What's the biggest driver in the yards for

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00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 6: carry dropping off? And so the home runs weren't there,

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Speaker 6: and it's kind of like you have a home run

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Speaker 6: hitter that can't hit it to the fence anymore, and

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Speaker 6: like what do you do. I think Tony Pollard has

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Speaker 6: plenty of gas left and we'll have a spectacular season

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Speaker 6: for multiple Titans.

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Speaker 3: I'm all on board, baby, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Justin Graver is listening somewhere and thinking, like, yes, we're

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Speaker 1: finally getting some attention on this show.

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Speaker 3: He's compelling.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he had confidence in the leg last year,

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Speaker 1: and you do hope that returns. There's no guarantee at

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Speaker 1: running back that you're gonna run with that same energy

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Speaker 1: juice throughout your career. That's kind of what goes at

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Speaker 1: some point when you get older. But he's not old

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Speaker 1: to your point, and he's in a great situation with

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Speaker 1: Tajy Spears where the two of them, I think you

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Speaker 1: can keep them on the field for an entire drive

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Speaker 1: and then the other one can take over. They can

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Speaker 1: both do everything, and I think they will compliment each

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Speaker 1: other well. I think they're one of the best backfields

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Speaker 1: in the league. And if you get Pollard of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two with twenty twenty four Taj Spears, you're cooking

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Speaker 1: with gas. I'd rather have that than Derrick Henry. As

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Speaker 1: much as I like Derrick Henry, I'd much rather have

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Speaker 1: that Doo.

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Speaker 4: I do think that's kind of a magic sauce you'll

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Speaker 4: start to see moving forward. Is like running backs who

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Speaker 4: can like sort of seamlessly take over for each other

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Speaker 4: in a way that's both complementary and supplementary. Specifically to

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Speaker 4: the fatigue and the exertion placed on the body, particularly

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Speaker 4: coming out of injuries like that. I think it's a

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Speaker 4: great situation for him. I also I am a fan

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Speaker 4: of this of this backfield here, and I think, again,

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Speaker 4: help out the young quarterback. You know, the quarterback's got

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Speaker 4: to make a jump year one year or two, and

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Speaker 4: all of these players around him, including this run system

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Speaker 4: that they're going to install there, it's like, help out

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Speaker 4: the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so again, help us, help you.

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Speaker 1: We have fixed the Tennessee Titans. We fix so much

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Speaker 1: around the NFL. It's that time of year. It's happening, folks.

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Speaker 1: Training camp is off and running. It is really here.

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Speaker 1: This is week three of the NFL Daily Podcast, and

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Speaker 1: we really appreciate everyone who has been tuning in. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: the news is going to start flying. People are going

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Speaker 1: to start flying all over the cut Tree. Patrick will

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Speaker 1: be going to inside training camp, but he will be

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Speaker 1: back later this week before he does all that. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Rodrigue will be going to training camp and she'll be

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Speaker 1: back on this show.

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Speaker 3: But until then, I'm Greg Rosenthal. See you next time.