1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you. Why oh and look 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding dong 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: lost culture? Just calling um. I want to share a 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: phrase that my sister has generated as as as he 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: normally does. UM, share my phrase, spread my teachings, my 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: dear darling, dear darling, deer. It is one of those 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: phrases that you don't know what it is about it, 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: but it really really hits you. Speaking for myself, I hear, 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say. We were talking on 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: them on one of our little group chats, our GCS, 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: and then we're talking about how this Sean Conley guy, 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: this doctor is a fool um, and how all these 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: all these doctors who are somehow thirty two years old 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: who are attending to the president are like thirty two 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: year old men. And sorry from erasing any women or 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: or or non binding your people who are on that staff. 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for apologizing. Thank you. I just I don't 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: care to really pay attention to who is treating him, 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: but I brought up how silly they are. And then 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: my friend Matt Rodgers said, clown parade, clown brigade, clown 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: parade clown brigade, when I look at everyone stomping out 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: of that Walter Read hospital with their little prompts in hand, 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: doing the work of Dr Doom himself. I say, clown parade, 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: clown brigade. I don't trust anyone that comes out of 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: there and says a goddamn thing. And how come they're 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: trying to like convince us all of a sudden that 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: this is the way that this disease works. It's not 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: the way that this virus works where it's just like 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: he's better and going home. That is not how it 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: fucking works. And I really hope that no one is 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: successfully gas lit by this, because, to be honest with you, 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing is fucking crazy. I'm almost hesitant to 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: even comment on it because it could change any shame 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: jing it's changing very quickly. I don't, I don't, I 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 1: don't care to comment on either. I just want to comment. 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I just want to provide context for clown parade, clown brigade, 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: for clown parade, clown brigade. Which is so funny because 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: you texted the words clown parade, clown brigade, and I laughed, 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: and then you sent a voice message and the reading 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: of it is so excellent. Here, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 41 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: Wait can I can I actually pull up the original audio? 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you love it, love it so much. 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: It's so it's it had me in tears. Okay, here, 44 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: here we go, Here we go. Ready, clown parade, clown brigade. 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: Well that is how it said. For anyone at home 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: that wants to sort of refer to a bunch of 47 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: people as a clown clown parade, clown brigade, that's how 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: you do it. We should just say, let's get a 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: little paradeae. It's it's it's so funny because you're saying 50 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: it's redundant. You're saying this clown parade basically means clown brigade, 51 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: but you so vaddic about. I feel the brigade is 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: sort of a more intentional version of a parade, you 53 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like a brigade is intentional, a 54 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: parade is. It takes a lot of organizing. Not to 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: not anyone and call any parade organizers out there unintentional. 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: I'd hate to call the girls unintentional. But what I'm 57 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: saying is, let's just give a little context. So while 58 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: we've been gone y'all, the president has gotten COVID, which 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: is so insane. It would be the easiest thing in 60 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: the world for the president and his handlers to protect 61 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: him and the people around him from COVID nineteen. But 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: as we know, they're the most careless people in the world. 63 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: We thought just about all of America apparently about themselves 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: as well, and now a whole fleet of them have 65 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: the coronavirus. So that's what's happening. And he went to 66 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: the hospital reports where he was not doing well. Now 67 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: the doctors have come out and said, actually, he is 68 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: doing well. He wasn't doing well. We lied to you 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: about that, but now we're saying he is doing well. 70 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: And believe us. Now, I guess because and let's have 71 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: him stand outside the White House. I mean, this is 72 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: just literally minutes ago. Stand outside the White House, John 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: just looking gasping for he can barely breathe. He took 74 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: his mask off, like what a fucking idiot. Yeah, at 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: time of recording, he has stood outside of the White 76 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: House after getting back from Alter Read and he's like 77 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: waving to his adoring public and he's really looks like 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: he can't breathe, and um, Matt Matt and I. I 79 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: would say that you and I keep it pretty like 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: untainted discourse on the pot. We don't really bring him 81 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: up explicitly that much because we're not like you know, 82 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: we're not like that Cheetoh gaze. And also you know 83 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 1: how you know where we stand. So it's of course, 84 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: but like this is truly like beyond the piale. It's anyway. 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: But I look, we're we're we're off, we're off the 86 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: rails already. But I just wanted to again provide contacts 87 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: to bring light to clown parade glound breach. Well, I 88 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: don't just want to say something. The reason why such 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: a clown parade clown bargade is because what it does 90 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: is it takes focus away from what's important this week. Okay, 91 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: so it takes place away. And right now I'm holding 92 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: up the meaning of Mariah Carry, which is the highly 93 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: anticipated book by the one true Queen Maria, and it's 94 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: taken a lot of focus away from my girl's big week. 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: And I have to say that she seems happier than ever. 96 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: She seems very satisfied with the way the book has 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: come out and the way it's being received, and she 98 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: should I am well into the audio book right now, 99 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: which I'm reading, which I'm listening to rather while i'm 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: reading it, which gives an amazing sort of full immersion. 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: You're studying abroad in Mariah Lands. So let me tell you. 102 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: I've I'm spreading, spending the fall studying Maria, and we 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: can say that next week we are going to have 104 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: a culture catch up, and this culture catch up is 105 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit different. We are having the 106 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: meaning of Mariah Carey book. So everyone out there who 107 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: has not yet picked up the book, or who has 108 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: picked up the book but is sort of leisurely reading it, 109 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: understand next week we're gonna be doing a close read 110 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: a discussion on the book, and so tune in for that. 111 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: And I'm telling stream and stream the rarities, which is great, 112 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so fantastic and also what I'm having 113 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: so much fun doing. And we'll talk about this morn 114 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: next week. But it's it's truly I mean, her life 115 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: is harrowing, but her year early years are truly truly crazy. 116 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: The marriage to Tommy Motola is something no one could 117 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: ever understand and so like, so please read the book 118 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: and then right now I'm on the Glitter chapters, which 119 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: are something else, and I'm also as I'm reading the book, 120 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: I'm sort of revisiting the music, and God, I have 121 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: to say, carry is the culture that made me say 122 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: culture was from me? I mean so yes, because it 123 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: was the first time I ever remember, really remember connecting 124 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: with someone in the music. And I honestly to hear 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: her tell the specific stories behind a lot of these 126 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: songs and she sings in the audio book. She thinks 127 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: these things throughout the audio book, and she is and 128 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: excellent readings of the audio books. She's so funny. She 129 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: it's so in her voice, and you know, it's just 130 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: I can't say enough. So if you haven't gotten the book, 131 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: get the damn book and join us next week for 132 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: the Culture catch up. That is the meaning of Mariah 133 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: Carey Book Club, which I'm so excited for, so excited 134 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: for you know who, you know who else I'm excited for. 135 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Our guests are guests who's by the way, sort of 136 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: giving the week to do right now because I'll tell 137 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: you exactly what she did when she came on the 138 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: zoom and wait and she did it again on the 139 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: visual she I think you can sort of hear the 140 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: wind blowing. It's because our guest is sort of, you know, 141 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: taking a cue from Mariah and having the wind blow 142 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: her locks around, and it is truly stunning. I think 143 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: the most beautiful person that's appeared in a zoom with 144 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: with us, and we've had some stunners. She takes this 145 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: the perlative fortunately, and we celebrate that most likely to 146 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: show up beat for the zoom, beat for the zoom. 147 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: And you know she's she's giving people the visual and 148 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: she's she's she's on Twitch talking movies with all your 149 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: favorite people. Um so check check out her Twitch streams 150 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: on the regular PEP talks with our guests, with our guests. God, 151 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: she's just a legend. She's just huge. She's a legend, musician, 152 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: New York City nightlife icon, drag legend and runner up 153 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: on RuPaul's Drag Race Season nine, incredible, incredible contestant on 154 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: that as as well as being just an incredible performer, musician, icon, 155 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, truly a trailblazer here, first openly trans woman 156 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: to ever originate a lead role on Broadway, which was 157 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: head over Heels, and you know, we're actually catching her 158 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: in quite the world one week because the new single 159 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: is out. The new single is called Best Sex, and 160 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: we're into the new single. And of course, you know, 161 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: usually when you release a single, there's usually a larger 162 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: body of work coming out, and that is no different 163 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: in this situation. We have a Girl like Me Letters 164 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: to My Lover's coming out this month October six, two 165 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: thousand twenty. Mama, I have to ask so many questions 166 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: about this because not only is Best Sex on it, 167 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: but she's got a cover of will You Still Love 168 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Me Tomorrow? I need to talk about this because I 169 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: read this in her Quarantine diaries when she was shooting 170 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: the visual. It's a visual album. Hell yeah, so Girl 171 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: Like Me it's gonna be It's it's visual. So she 172 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: she talks a little bit about will You Still Love 173 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Me Tomorrow? I mean, what an iconic song. We need 174 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: to talk to her about this. Anything else to add? Man? 175 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a long time coming. This is 176 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: a long time coming. And I think that we are honored, 177 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: privileged and so gid day, not just giddy. We are 178 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: good day, good day to have our fucking guest welcome 179 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: her into your ears. The magnificent Happer. That's my energy 180 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: and Honestly, I all I wanted to do with scream 181 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: how are you? I am fabulous, Thank you, Matt and bowing. 182 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. You're right, it's been 183 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: a long time coming, I say, like more than a year. 184 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: We have been trying to make this manag happen. And 185 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: the manage is managing after all. After all, we have 186 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: to congratulate miss Nikki on the newborn. Oh yes, baby, 187 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: there's a little petty in the world. And she has 188 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: a son. Finally is my son's But she has a 189 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: real one, actually has she actually has. This bitch is 190 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: literally her son. It's actually a real culture number nineteen. 191 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: This is literally literally Do you identify as a barbed peppermint? No? Wait, 192 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know what that means. Oh, barb is 193 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: like what Nicky calls her fans. Definitely not. But I'm now, 194 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: is there anyone's um nickname fan? I'm a friend. Now. 195 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: Do I know all the words to her music? Yes, 196 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: but I don't read what she says to call her 197 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: fans a barb and so but you you you enjoy 198 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: her music, you're fans, So I definitely enjoy her music. Okay, 199 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: And this is actually a really important distinction that Pepperman 200 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: is giving us, because being a fan of somebody does 201 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily mean you. I mean, there is a fine 202 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: line between fanning and standing and being part of the culture. 203 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: I really enjoy her music, I enjoy her. What I 204 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: enjoy equally or maybe more, is her contribution to hip 205 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: hop and rap and where it traveled to UH in 206 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: the early two thousand's and two. Now, I see her 207 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: as a very valuable sort of brick in the hip 208 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: hop wall. I wouldn't say that I would call myself 209 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: a bar It's really it's really difficult for me because 210 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: I actually identify as both a barb and a lamb um. 211 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's hard. Now it's hard to be a 212 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: hardcore fan of Nikki and Mariah because we unfortunately because 213 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: American Idol, there's some tension. There's some tension like they're 214 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: gonna let American Idol girl. Obviously I obviously not. I 215 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: still identify as being in both, yes, but but I'm 216 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: just saying it's hard when your girls won't even speak 217 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: of each other in interviews. It's I also love j 218 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: Lo and Mariah. Whenever she's asked about j Los famously 219 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: says for words, I don't know her. Well, the thing is, 220 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: the up on my Face video was like the one 221 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: moment that we will always have of Maria, and that's 222 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: sort of like having fun together on camera, you know, 223 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: like that can't there's there's a certain degree of that 224 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: that can be faked. But they genuine I was. I 225 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: watched it the other day. I was like, I didn't 226 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: seen this video in so long, and they're both having 227 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: a blast and like there was a moment there it's 228 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: like wicked, like where they were really genuinely like friends, 229 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: you know. Um, but anyway, but you know that they 230 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: took they took Nicki Minajes verse of upout my Face 231 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: when you stream when you stream that album, that that 232 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: Mariah album. Yeah it's not on Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel. 233 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: Well the song is, but the nick nick is gone. 234 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: I think that Mariah felt burned by that because she 235 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: actually was like, here's the thing about Maria, And you 236 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: find this out in the book. Do you love Maria? 237 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: Obviously you love Maria. Yeah, so you find out in 238 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: the book that she is number one with having her 239 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: finger on the pulse, like she was like that girl 240 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: in the early nineties that was singing these big ballads, 241 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: but knew deep in her soul. She was like, hip 242 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: hop is going to become mainstream. I'm telling you, I'm 243 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: telling you. And she was like the first she was 244 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: trying to tell Tommy Motola that and he just didn't 245 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: understand hip hop at all, and like told her she 246 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: was stupid and like, it was obviously low key pretty 247 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: racist because he's like older white man in the music 248 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: and the hip hop feature on on the R and 249 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: B song on Like she she she for sure revolutionized that, 250 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's it's the Nicki Mariah of 251 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: it all. Is interesting because Mariah brought Nicky onto that 252 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: track that was pretty early on and the Nikki of 253 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: it all, and she was like, and she even said 254 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: in an interview later during American Idol, She's like, you know, 255 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: it's actually funny because it's funny I have all this 256 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: beef with her, or it's sad that I have all 257 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: this speef with her because I actually know she's really gifted. 258 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: That's why I had her on my song in the 259 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: first place. That's why all this sucks. She probably thought 260 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: she was in the clear because at that moment in time, 261 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Nikki was beefing with Kim. Yeah, and you know, yeah 262 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: she thought first, surely we can't have more than one 263 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: beef going in one Yeah, I mean the amount of 264 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: energy it takes watch her spin these plates. Okay, sporting artist, 265 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk about different reporting artist. I want 266 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: to talk about peper Man. You love the single best 267 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Sex and the lyric video is very sexy, sensual and 268 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: if you like really do a close reading of the lyrics, 269 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: it's like very vulnerable and very real, authentic. Thank you. Yeah, 270 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: it's like my life, you know, um I had. I mean, look, 271 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: long story short, I was in a really intense relationship. 272 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Uh that uh he was popping, let me tell you 273 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: become because we met in the at least for me, 274 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: in the most unlikely of places to meet a partner 275 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: that we were going to be with long term, that 276 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna be a long term We met online, 277 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, in a hook up app, and I was like, 278 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, let me. I was living in San Francisco 279 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: and I was all by my lonesome. I was preparing 280 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: for head over heels on Broadway, and we, uh we 281 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: did this out of town run there and I didn't 282 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: know anybody. And so I was like, let me get 283 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: on this damn app see who I can get come 284 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: over and show me a little company tonight and here, 285 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: and he was giving me all kinds of excuse is 286 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: he was running late. He was late because he was 287 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: getting a raccoon from him for his neighbor out of 288 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: the yard or some crazy name. Yeah, but that's how 289 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: I got to say, a man, you can get a 290 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: racoon the neighbor. Come on, I don't believe I mean, 291 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm from the New obviously, So I'm like, honey, there's 292 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: no rap. Where's raccoon? A rat? I believe it a raccoon? Nobody, 293 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: there's no He shot from the moon there with the raccoon. Yeah. 294 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: And so anyway, he came over and it was like 295 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: the best hook up ever and then we were we 296 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: got into relationship and everything, and then he broke my heart. Uh, 297 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: but it started with that hook up. And best sex 298 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: is actually not about him. It's about all the other 299 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: funk boys, yeah, find their way into your boudoir. But 300 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: his best sex about his best sex inspired by this 301 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: one lover who was giving you the best sex but 302 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: also kind of jerking you around emotionally. Just those two 303 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: ideas rive intersecting. It's representing all the fun boys of 304 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: the world. Honestly, it's so crazy. Yeah, I'm listening to 305 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: the song and I'm like, yeah, the ship that I've 306 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: let people get away with because they were they knew 307 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: exactly what to do too, and with my body, it's 308 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: really shocking. And the fact of the matter is I 309 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: will do it again in fact, like you knows, yeah, 310 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: right exactly during the quarantine. You gotta do what you 311 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: gotta do. And also it's like, you know, all of 312 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: us are missing that that goodness. Okay, this is when 313 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Peppermint. It feels like it 314 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: feels like we all take at least maybe this is 315 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: just me saying that I might have taken for green 316 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: in the past. How Writing like a sensual song about 317 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: like that's very vulnerable in this way about sex is 318 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: very difficult. It's like you kind of have like it 319 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: has to be sourced from some thing true, and it's like, oh, 320 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 1: and like you have to like sort of cross all 321 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: these like path through all these filters in your mind 322 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna like prepended 323 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: paper and write about like me at my most literal 324 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: naked self. Boring self or not boring. I don't know, 325 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: I said boring, vulnerable self. I don't know why I 326 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: said boring, Oh my god, because every book together bones bones, 327 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: obviously unfortunately sadly projecting, I hope not. I know. I 328 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: don't know why I said boring. I don't know why 329 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: I said boring. I meant to say vulnerable. They they 330 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: might sound the same, but I was thinking about this. 331 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: I was after after listening to Best Sex, I was like, 332 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: it's so hard to write on on like a like 333 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: a writer early yeah, you know, I mean I wanted 334 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: to do. What I tried to do is do something 335 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: that would be obviously sexy and that's not that hard 336 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: to like achieve that bar but they And also I 337 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: wanted it to be a little funny. It's funny. I 338 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: wanted there to be a little bit of like chuckle 339 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: in it, right, but I really wanted it to be 340 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want it to be like, oh, you're so hot, daddy, 341 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: and that's it, like I'm done with that, Like let's 342 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: talk about all your flaws. And the song is really 343 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: a read, you know what I mean? And that's what 344 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be UM because all this stuff 345 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: is true, like all this stuff that that we've all 346 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: been through UM. And I think it's definitely in terms 347 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: of how it fits into the rest of the album. Yes, 348 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: I met my ex who the most of this album 349 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: is about on online, on a hook up app on 350 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: a hook up. It was a jump off. But even 351 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: beyond that, it's these are all of the songs and 352 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: this are things that a lot of other trans women 353 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: through and we don't have the opportunity. Really, I don't. 354 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: I can't find anything else in pop culture that really 355 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: UM in terms of music, that really shows and talks 356 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: about a trans woman's experience, and so I wanted this 357 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: is all this stuff that me and my girlfriends cackle 358 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: about all the time. You know, I remember the line 359 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: of the song you don't want to be seen with me? 360 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: That must be something that gets that unfortunately, is dealt 361 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: with a lot. Yeah. Oh yeah, I mean it's it's 362 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: unfortunately it's probably the rule, not the exception, at least 363 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: in my experience and a lot of the girls I've 364 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: talked to, And I also wanted to talk about, I mean, 365 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: the most difficult line in the whole song to do 366 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: and we thought. Me and my co writer Adam Joseph 367 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: were like, should we do it? Can we do this? 368 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: We can't do this? No was, um, you don't know 369 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: your status, and then you asked me if I'm clean, 370 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: and then we decided to obviously put it in there 371 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: because it's it's real and it happens and a lot 372 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: of the guys. I mean, I don't can't speak for 373 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: everybody queer, but I think everybody in the l g B, 374 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: t q A plus probably or at least many people 375 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: have probably had some interaction with people who have been 376 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 1: quote closeted or not out. But I think that toxic 377 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: behavior is really prevalent for the girls, for the trans girls, um, 378 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: because of the way our culture is, and so you know, 379 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: these guys will come around for the goodies, but they 380 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: are not involved in like all the other stuff that 381 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: happens in queer life, and that's then then it's dangerous 382 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: for us. Yeah. I also think like there that line. 383 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: To me, I was really happy that you put that 384 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: in there too, and that was really the one that 385 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: made me like I was like, oh wow, this this 386 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: is like it's it's like a sexy, fun and funny song, 387 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: but like it's exploring something really real, because I also 388 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: think amongst like just gay men, there's like an assumption 389 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, I'm fine, I'm clean, I'm doing 390 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to do. But when they're interacting sexually 391 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: with a trans person, there's that little microaggression where it's like, 392 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: we'll make sure that they're clean and make sure that 393 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: this is going on, which is also like it's just semantic, 394 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: well but just even interesting. Clean is just like right, yeah, yeah, exactly, 395 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: but that but that interaction is so interesting in that 396 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: line in that lyric where it's like I it's like 397 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: the the complete otis and the responsibilities completely on me 398 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: for both of us. I have to be the one 399 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: who's getting my health taken care of and getting tested, 400 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: and as long as you know my status then you 401 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: don't have to worry. That's generally what it is. And 402 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, there have been lots of guys who've asked me. 403 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: You know that question they asked me, and you know, 404 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: which is good. I'm happy to talk about it. But 405 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: then they won't even know the answer if I turned 406 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: around and asked them, well, when did you get tested 407 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: or have you been tested, like or whatever, and yeah, 408 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: the terms of the question are flawed and funked up 409 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: on on on their end, right, And it's like iline 410 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: support clean. I don't. I don't use the word are 411 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: you clean when talking about S T I S and 412 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: getting But that's the question that they asked. Yes, you're 413 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: you're quoting them, it's to quote. But it's like it 414 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: also implies something to listed about having sex with trans 415 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: women where it's dirty. Yeah, right, but as if they're 416 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: not engaging in that, it's yeah exactly. It's like there's 417 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: so many funked up layers there and anyway, it's just 418 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: such a clean, quick, efficient comment and I love that lyric. Yes, 419 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: the lyrics are great. And I also another one was 420 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: like when you were like I never know when you're 421 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: going to roll through, I was like, see, that would 422 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: kriss me off. You know. In fact, I recently had 423 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: an interact. Yeah, I recently had an interaction on Grinder 424 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: that ended with Okay, I'll come over. And this is 425 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: after a lot of discussion about like COVID, having COVID 426 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: tested whatever, done done. This is like a couple of 427 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: couple of day things and so then at the end 428 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: of it. He's like, I'll be over in twenty minutes. 429 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: He says, twenty minutes. It's it's it's a little bit 430 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: after one in the morning. And I'm like, alright, cool 431 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: and so yeah, and mind you, mind you he's six 432 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: six feet away, so I happened to look out. I 433 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh, hot, guy I'm interested in is six 434 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: hundred feet away? Says twenty minutes. It's one o'clock. It's 435 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: this is what it is, bing bang boom, Like this 436 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: actually was, I'll be honest with you. It was the 437 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: night that we found out that Trump was sick. I 438 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: was like, I gotta celebrate here. Are you already prepare? 439 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't know your situation, but do you did you 440 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: need to prepare? He was taking the twenty minutes to prepare, 441 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, you got so um but which I'm happy 442 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: to provide for us, Like take your time. I even 443 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: said take your time. So forty minutes later, forty minutes later, 444 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: he says, okay, I'm gonna leave now, and I was like, okay, 445 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: all right, And then so another forty five minutes goes 446 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: by and he goes He goes is your apartment hard 447 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: to get into? Now? Mind you it's well after two, 448 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: and I thought this is I thought we would be 449 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: done by then, to be honest with you, because not 450 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: for nothing, but I was ready over an hour ago. Eventually, 451 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: I just said, you know what you said twenty minutes, 452 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: it's been an hour and fifteen. I'm done, And I 453 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: bought the person no, because I don't know what took 454 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: him so long. You know why he took so long. 455 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: He didn't have man escaped products like the ball Towner 456 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: and the ball our ads. Really gee, really, he's not 457 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: speaking an ad copy um something that might that might 458 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: be sort of telling on myself because I feel like 459 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: I haven't we haven't we been been on the other 460 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: side of of these interactions. Well apparently you have because 461 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: you started this this thought. And I caught myself as 462 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: I was about to ask it, but I was like, 463 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: I might as well ask it in sort of have 464 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: the asterisk theater. It's like, well, maybe I'm maybe I'm 465 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: alone because I feel like I've disengaged emotionally enough times 466 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: with certain people now are like, Okay, I'm not interested. 467 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: I'll be real. I have and see but it's not 468 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: my fault. Okay, let me tell you why it's never 469 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: my fault. I because of the fun boys that I 470 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: talked to. I'll okay, this is, this is, this is, 471 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: this is a lot. Let's go give it. You got 472 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: your hand up. Sometimes you have to align up if 473 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: you if you are the one who takes the time 474 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: to prepare, that's right, which is why you're encounter Matt. 475 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, what but if I take the time to 476 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: prepare and I make a decision about who I'm going 477 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: to connect with, I'm going to that person's house and 478 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on down to the cloth. I know 479 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: how long it takes to prepare. Anyway, if I'm gonna prepare, 480 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: I have been flaked on by other folks, Okay, whatever 481 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: the tops, I've been flaked on by them all the time, 482 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: and they're just going from flower to flower to flower, 483 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: and so I have been flaked on. And so sometimes 484 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: you have to be like, well, bit, if I'm going 485 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: to spend all this time getting ready, then then somebody's coming. 486 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: Then I'm getting this together. I've done just because I 487 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: was ready. What you'll what you'll do to yourself just 488 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: because you prepared yet been there? And so then every 489 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: once in a while, the flake will be two hours, 490 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Like you'd be like, why don't he lost his time? 491 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, get the next one, and then the next 492 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: and then the first one, like I'm here, that's happened. Wow, 493 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: that's very good. Actually, Like when when you're like in 494 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: the mid when you're in the midst of interaction, someone 495 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: else is at the door. Yeah, well like telling you online, 496 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: telling you oh I'm here, I'm on the way or whatever, 497 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, oh no, and so 498 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: I have disengaged at that in those situations, but that 499 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: person was two hours late. Yeah, whatever, you know. I 500 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: just don't understand what is what is with people on 501 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: Grinder who are like or any app. Let's let's broaden 502 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: it to every app, and let's just say this. I'm 503 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: not coming for the everyder I have, I have friends 504 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: that work there. I'm not coming for the app. I'm 505 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: coming for the behavior and I'm not coming honestly. So 506 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: so this is a sidebar, but I was in New 507 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: York for a little bit recently and I went on 508 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: the app and I think someone thought I was cat 509 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: fishing as as me, but it was me, So I 510 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: got I got I got taken off of there for 511 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: terms of service, and I had my friend Patrick rein state. 512 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: But also it was just weird. So it's weird the people, 513 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: the way people can just report you and like and 514 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: then you're going, and then you're gone, and it was 515 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: like you're you're you can't do it at all. Thank 516 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: God I knew someone there, and you gotta send them. 517 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: You's got to send them a photo with a piece 518 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: of paper that says Matt Rodgers, Yeah this is me? 519 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: Is that? Is that what you can do to get 520 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: your account back? It's happened to It's happened to Bowen, 521 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: It's happened to me him. But what was I gonna say? Anyway, 522 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I'm saying it's not just people Grinder, it's everyone. 523 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: But what's with people like texting so sparsely. It's like 524 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: like on the app, it's like people will say one 525 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: thing and then there's like nothing. I just feel like 526 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: no one's talkative on the app. There's no like radical communication. 527 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden when they're there two hours later, 528 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: it's like, why didn't you tell me you were under way? 529 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: Like when I'm texting someone, I'm going, yeah, I'm leaving 530 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: in the car. That's communication. You're right, Well, that's obviously 531 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: because they're talking to people at once and they can't 532 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: keep there. Yeah, yeah, you're dicking their pants. And I 533 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: think they want to. I think they want to seem 534 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: sexy too. They want to seem like cool and sexy 535 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: or like like they don't want to do too much, 536 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: and so it's like very sparse communications. That really angers 537 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: me because I have been in a situation where I've 538 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: had lined up arranged number one who kind of seemingly flaked, 539 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: then arranged number two who did flake, and then number 540 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: one comes through all late, and then I'm like, now 541 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm just angry, and I'm like, I'm like not into it. 542 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: And I've had myself and encounters before where I'm like, 543 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: I just wish you would leave, like necessarily. But that's 544 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: what I'm looking at you like, and it's not good. 545 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: Why am I doing Because even when you just said 546 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: it just now, I was like, I was like, oh, 547 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 1: that's that's perfect, And that's the only way you can 548 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: communicate that is I mean, well we should all do 549 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: it from now and just be like I think you 550 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: should go, you should go, You're late, You're I feel disrespected, 551 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: and here I am and then it's like they're like 552 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: then they're the most talkative like hook up, or they're 553 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: like demanding or like there's a kink that comes into 554 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: play that wasn't what we were like arranging or talking 555 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: about or agreeing to. It was not on the table prior, 556 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 1: no darkling. And the thing too, is like what's so 557 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: funny about this too, is like we feel like we 558 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: can't be like, okay, now leave just like straight up, 559 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: but we've literally invited them over to like eat our ass, 560 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like who Takora is like, 561 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: it's like, come over, let's be filthy, let's have penetrat 562 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: of anal sex. And now afterwards, I'm like a little 563 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: shy about asking me here. Everyone so bashful after the 564 00:31:54,160 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: fact the community is spun out. I want to I 565 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: want to ask something. It's there's a there's there's a 566 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: there's a there's an icky layer to it. But I 567 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: think the three of us can all contribute something. How much? 568 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: How much? How much? Like how much? Because you're talking 569 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: about kings, how much fame kink is like layered in 570 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: there for you at this point? You know what, it's 571 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: only half okay, First of all, let me tell you this. Um, 572 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: that's it. Okay, there is a thing. I mean, it's 573 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: it's probably the same as any other kind of starfucker 574 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: kind of fetish, same thing. Um, but there is uh 575 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: something that I learned about a year after being on 576 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: drag Race. Uh. And they're called um race. They're called race, 577 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: which is the name of yeah yeah, but um that's 578 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: what they're called. And so I was like, what are 579 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: you talking about? And I thought I was completely protected 580 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: because most of the men who are um interested in 581 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: me or girls like me identify as hetero and are 582 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: not necessarily drag Race fans to the point where they 583 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: would be looking for drag Race people you know, um 584 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: and recognize us, you know, like online or on Tender 585 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: or Grinder or whatever. And and so I thought the 586 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: girls would always be talking about Uh he came over. 587 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: He was so hot and then he you know, was 588 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: trying to get an autograph and all of this stuff, 589 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: and like, oh god yeah. And then so I was like, oh, 590 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: thank gosh, the like the guys who are into me 591 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: are are like actually into women all the time. Um. 592 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: And so one day I was I was like in 593 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: the mood, and I was like let me get online, 594 00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: and uh, I was near drag con um l a 595 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: near the Convention Center, and so I signed on and 596 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: there was somebody not that far and we were talking 597 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: and YadA, YadA, YadA, and he was it was all 598 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: lining up. I was like, okay, this is gonna be. 599 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: Where was this outside the Grammy's Museum? What where was this? 600 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: It was? It was center, it was by Staples Center exactly. 601 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: It my Staples Center and I was I was staying. 602 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: I don't know where I was staying downtown, so I 603 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: don't know. Kay. So so it's it's getting lined up. 604 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: It's all happening. It's getting lined up. It's all happening. 605 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: Everything's lovely. Pictures are looking good. I I don't remember 606 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: if I sent If I send this really sexy picture, 607 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: I won't send a face picture right like I usually 608 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: send one or the other first. Um, and so I 609 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: don't I think I didn't send my face picture. I 610 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: don't remember what I said. I sent something, but it 611 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: was all coming through and I was like, this is great. 612 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: And then he starts asking questions that are unusual and 613 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: he's like, so how long you in town for? And 614 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't remember saying I was, as 615 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: I say, over the weekend and he's like, oh, um, 616 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: what are you in town for? And I usually keep 617 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: questions like that in general, and I was like, a convention, 618 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: that's all you need to know? What what? What's that 619 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: have to do with? Then? And then he was like 620 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: were you were you mad? Sasha beat you? Yeah, precisely. 621 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: Then he was like um. Then he was like, well, 622 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 1: what booth are you at or something? And then he's 623 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: like peppermint pepper and I was like, oh god. And 624 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: so obviously I was like, oh, oh no, I just 625 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: got a stomach cake. I got to go, you know, 626 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: like he I didn't invite him over, and that was 627 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: a very close call because yeah, it's just yeah, so 628 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened, Thank goodness. Um, most of the guys 629 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: who I've hooked up with or even dated had no 630 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: idea who I am. That's so interesting, that's incredibly interesting. 631 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: I want to ask what difference would it make if 632 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: post coitus the guys like, by the way, huge fan, 633 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 1: like you know, like does that okay for you? Okay? 634 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: It did happen once with a Frenchman. He lives in Paris. 635 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: I'm filling his tea hardy, I don't give you, but 636 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: I still like him. We're still friends. His name is 637 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: Max and he lives in Paris. That's all okay, great 638 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: and whatever he we did, we we hooked up and 639 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: they were laying down and having our little pillow talk 640 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: and and he was and he knew who I was. 641 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Don't remember ex factly what he said. I don't remember 642 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: that like damning phrase that. I was like, huh, you 643 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: know um, but he did and he knew who I was, 644 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: And I was like what in that? I was like, 645 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: how did this even happen? You don't seem like I 646 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: was like, are you gay? I don't know, um, and 647 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: not that only gay guys and lots of straight folks 648 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: watch Drag Race, especially especially like honestly like your season 649 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: on I feel like was your season was like the 650 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: one where it became like major yeah and so and 651 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: so that was interesting and and he's the aw I 652 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: can't say the only person, but he's one of the 653 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: only people that I've hooked up with that I'm still 654 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 1: in contact with that I would hook up with again, 655 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: who also follows me on um social media and we 656 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: communicate on social media and like on Tinder and all 657 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: the you know, and I'm like, okay, and and my 658 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend, my ex boyfriend who I don't know if 659 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: he follows me now because I don't know what he's 660 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: doing to San Francisco, San Francisco. He he didn't know 661 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: who I was. He had heard of Drag Race and 662 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: I told him I was. I was like, you know what. 663 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: The conversation and the sex was so good. It was, honestly, 664 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: up to that point, the best hook up I had 665 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: ever had ever, not just the sets, but the the 666 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: whole like pillow talk, the cuddling. He was like, it 667 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: was just adorable. And I was like, whoa, what is 668 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: going on here? It was clearly the beginning of a relationship, 669 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: all right. And so I was like, let me just 670 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: be honest because usually I'm like, I'm a DJ at 671 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: working bars and I traveled for a living and that's 672 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: all you need to know. Um. And he I was like, 673 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: you know what, look I do drag. My name is Peppermint. 674 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm get I'm here rehearsaling for a Broadway show and 675 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: YadA YadA, And he was like what And then he 676 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: looked the next day he left, and then then he 677 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: had looked me up on Wikipedia and was like, oh 678 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: my god. But it hadn't phased them, you know, and 679 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: so that was nice. That was like transparency though it was, 680 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: and it's deserving. It's going to be difficult for me 681 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: to have a relationship, I think, without being transparent from 682 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: the beginning. It is difficult because it really does you understand. 683 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: It's like if you like meet somebody who you know 684 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: doesn't know you, and in the first few minutes you 685 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: tell them who exactly where you are and who you are. 686 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: And for me, drag race Um being a drag race 687 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: queen is really unusual type of like notoriety or recognition 688 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: because in the norm, in the pre COVID world, it 689 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: automatically gave them access to my social media, which had 690 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: my calendar, my travel calendar attached, which meant, this is 691 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: where I'll be on this night, this is where I live, 692 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: this is where I am, you know, and and they 693 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: can access us in a way that you can't access Beyonce, 694 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, of course, But that was 695 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: is that is that intense for you? Well, for me, 696 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: it's like the barrier of entry is like pretty high 697 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: for me anywhere I'm just like I don't want to, 698 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: like like I gotta I gotta like pick them pretty 699 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: carefully in the first place. And then it's like and 700 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: then it's just like, um, I find out like generally 701 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: in the meeting whether or not, whether or not it's like, oh, hey, 702 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: I know you, and I'm like, okay, great. But then 703 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: like at that point, I'm already like I don't know 704 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: if it's bad, make too late, right, But it's at 705 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: that point it's like, well, I've already already like past 706 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: the mustard test or drill or whatever for me. Now 707 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: it's like it's fine, Um, but I don't know. I 708 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: don't know sometimes honestly, and this is the fucked up 709 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: thing that I'll admit. Sometimes it's like sometimes it makes 710 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: me feel good. Sometimes I'm like, cool, you know my deal. 711 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you anything. I don't have 712 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: to like think of the wording of oh yeah I 713 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: work in um yeah, I work in I work in TV, 714 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: like you know, which even that has like a weird 715 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: like ring to it. So I don't know. Sometimes it 716 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: is just kind of convenient that person will just like 717 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: know it all. I feel like if someone were to 718 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: say they knew who I was it would be a 719 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: rap because for me, it's like, then what you're gonna 720 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: do is tell people tell, And I feel like what 721 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: what's never happened to me will be hard because usually 722 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: with me, if people know who I am on on 723 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: an app, they usually are just like love the pot 724 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: or someone did ask me to show them my hot 725 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: dog recently, um, which was that's which was one way 726 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: to say it. I hoped the show I hope to 727 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: show on HBO Max called hot Dog coverment. Um, so 728 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: so that's why they said that. Um, but I was 729 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: like l O L. But I feel like it's it's 730 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: weirdly a thing that's like, oh, I don't know now 731 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: if you're actually doing this because you want to come 732 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 1: over me, and now this could be a thing where 733 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: it's like you want to go tell x y Z 734 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: that you fucked someone who was whose podcast you know 735 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: or some The telltale sign is if they asked for 736 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: a selfie right after you had sexed, honey, it has happened. 737 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: It happened to me once and we didn't even have 738 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: sex because moving backwards, because he was not attracted to women, 739 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: but he wanted to get into my hotel room and 740 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I thought we were going to hook up, 741 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: and it's just like awkwards, you know. Um it was 742 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: in like South America, like columb not Columbia. We did 743 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: not go to Colombia. We went to Peru. It's probably 744 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: Peru or anyway somewhere in South America. And in South America, 745 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: like they are like they will do anything for that 746 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: rutpose for probably I don't know what, but to get 747 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: into Rupo's rags and so like, yeah, it was. It 748 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: was bizarre. We didn't hook up, and he wanted a 749 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: selfie and I was like, okay, but just go. But 750 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: this is weird. And now you're in my hotel room. Yeah, 751 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: and that is so crazy. What a waste of your time? 752 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: Oh what a waste of several kings. Oh my god, 753 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,919 Speaker 1: I just want to say that that. Yeah, you're right, Matt, 754 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: Like I what gives me chill, what gives me nightmares 755 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: is thinking about like the Brune conversation or you know, 756 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: like the Well, then if it gives you nightmares, then 757 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,479 Speaker 1: you need to change your current thinking about it because 758 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: it kind of gets your rocks off. So you might 759 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: need to be more careful. Bouten Yang. Don't hook up 760 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 1: with these holes that just say who you are, because 761 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: guess what, there's a lot of them. Well anyway, So 762 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: so um A Girl like Me Letters to My Lovers 763 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: is the theme of the piece that you're speaking to 764 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: people that you've experienced in the past, and this is 765 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: it is it like, it's not like every song is 766 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: for a certain one. It's just kind of like these 767 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: are for the for the boys. This is for the boys. Yeah, 768 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: it's all for the girls. Remember that Bett Miller movie 769 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: for the Voice. It's also for the girls, the trans 770 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: girls who um, who experienced such tom foolery. But it's 771 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: not just tom foolery. It's one part reality and there's 772 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of fantasy involved and just kind of 773 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: making it not only speaking about the realities of what 774 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: I've gone through, basically taking my diary and setting it 775 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 1: to music, but then also kind of built musically presenting 776 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: songs that that I would have wanted to hear if 777 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: as a young trans girl growing up. Um. And so 778 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: that's what the album is and the whole um it's 779 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: a trilogy. The relationship that I was in was in 780 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: lasted a year and we have obviously had our ups 781 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: and downs, and the crash and burned. Um. But the 782 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 1: one song basically turned into five songs, which is an EP, 783 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: and then we're like, I kept writing and then it 784 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: was suddenly fifteen songs. Well, so it's three EPs with interludes, 785 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: which makes an albums um oh, and we're going to 786 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: release them over the course of a year because the 787 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: relationship last. I love that. That's amazing, that's so thoughtful. 788 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: I really I can't say enough about the song. I 789 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: was listening to it and I was also reading the lyrics, 790 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: so I was also doing a close read and I 791 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: was like, you know, the emotional honesty of the lyrics 792 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: and also, to be honest with you, sonically the way 793 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: it sounds. And I'm not saying that's just because I 794 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: am in moray Land, but it kind of was giving 795 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 1: me her you know what I mean. And I do 796 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: mean as a as a major compliment. Registers down well, right, 797 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: but you know, we do what we can tell a register, 798 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: a register nonetheless, a register nonetheless, a register nonetheless, a 799 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: registered nonetheless. But it's lovely and I think it's great 800 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited for the rest of it. I 801 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 1: can't I can't wait to hear it on October six. 802 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. We are going to take just the quickest 803 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: break and return with Peppermint. And asked Peppermint the damn question, 804 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: and we're back with Peppermint. So Peppermint here on Lost 805 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: culturesis what we do is we ask each and every 806 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: one of our guests the same question, which is what 807 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: was the culture that made you say culture was for you? 808 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: But when you want to break that down, Peppermint, this 809 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: is the culture that you took in in your development culturally, 810 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: whatever that means to you, but it's set you on 811 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: a cultural path. It's something that you saw red Herd 812 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: and then it kind of lit up something in you. 813 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of pieces. Give us all 814 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: the pieces, give us, give us, give us all the pieces. 815 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: The one of the earliest pieces, I would have to 816 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: say that I had full control. I mean, I'm sure 817 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: there was lots of stuff that influenced me as a 818 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 1: little queer kid. But the one kind of thing that 819 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: I was like, this is for me, and I am 820 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: going with this and it's going to change my life. 821 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: Is um Willy Wonka in the chocolate factory with Gene Hackman. 822 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: I wanted so desperately, Uh, did I say, Jeane Hackman. 823 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 1: But the thing is like it would have been great. 824 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: Gene Hackman would have been fabulous. He really probably wouldn't have. 825 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: But yes, Gene Walder, we can't. We can't take we 826 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: can't take Willie Walker away from Gene Wilder. So I 827 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: had to we can't, we can't. We can't a little 828 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: a little aggressive Willie walk up WILLI wa, Yeah, that 829 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: would have been different, a valid but with Gene Wilder. 830 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: And I desperately wanted to be Violet Beauregard, the girl 831 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: that took into a blueberry and and I spent I 832 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times I rehearsed that, and 833 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: when my mom would leave, I would go and dress 834 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: as Violet. And then when when I this is how 835 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: I knew was culturally relevant to me, because then later 836 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: when I had some power to produce something. As a 837 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: young kid, I would try to enlist all the other 838 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: kids and force them to participate in my fantasy of 839 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: Willy Wanta in the chocolate factory, and you're gonna be 840 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: such and such, and you're gonna be you know, Veruca Salton, 841 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: whoever you're gonna be um, and I would stuff my 842 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: clothes with pillows and roll around on the floor like 843 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: a blueberry and I was living my fantasy. That's the 844 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: first one, and then the next one is definitely the 845 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: entire Janet album from Janet Jaccent Album's. Okay, those are 846 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: two excellent, excellent pieces. Okay, let's start with Miss Willie. 847 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: Miss Willie, I think, do you know what I just thought? 848 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: It has that same like fantasy, that that seem like 849 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: element of like pure cinematical magic that is only beat 850 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: out by the Wizard of Oz to me, Like, you're right, 851 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: what You're right, you know, it's it's got the it's 852 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: got it's just like it's the same thing. It's it's 853 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: kind of the I feel like it's an echo of 854 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz in a way where it's like it's 855 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: just like you're watching as a kid, and it's just 856 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: so beautiful and colorful and fun and like you've never 857 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: seen anything like it up until that point, and like 858 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,479 Speaker 1: that is such a that's that's such an important movie. 859 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: It really is. It's pure imagination for me that that 860 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: song is absolutely I mean I remember and also every singer, 861 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: every like real singer, like find a way to sneak 862 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: it into their set list to like Audrew McDonald doesn't 863 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: beautiful cover of it, Oh you must see. It's in 864 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: a concert of hers, probably from about a decade ago actually, 865 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: and I heard Adam Levine do it one time from 866 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: five and I heard, I believe Josh Grobin does a 867 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 1: gorgeous version of it. It's really one of the of 868 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 1: songs that is so it's it's for people like who 869 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: really want that escape. I do think that it's it's 870 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: sort of what attached to a bonus saying to that 871 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 1: was that's the element that I wanted to bring an escape, Yes, 872 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: keep going sorry, Yes, well, it's that it's that other world. 873 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: And I think it's that that it's that station that 874 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: you want to belong to so badly, and it does 875 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: it does sort of give that message at the end 876 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: of the day of the man behind the curtain is 877 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: not who you think, which I think is a timeless 878 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: narrative and such a such a important story, and I 879 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: think that weirdly enough, like of course people from all 880 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 1: across the world identified with those narratives, but it's such 881 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: a queer narrative. And you hear RuPaul talk odd nauseum 882 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: about um a wizard of Oz, but it is it's 883 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: almost like we know at a certain point even in 884 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,919 Speaker 1: our development, that there is going to come a time 885 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,479 Speaker 1: where the man behind the curtain is going to become 886 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: like a thing, like the sheen of everything is not 887 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: actual happiness, Like the knowledge is the power, you know 888 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: what I mean? I think that movie is. I love 889 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: that you brought that up. It's so important. Yeah, it 890 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: really also, I mean and just like on a on 891 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: a more basic level, if I dare, um, it really did. Uh. 892 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 1: It was really touching to me to see the way 893 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: that Gene Wilder played Willy Wonka was so tender, even 894 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 1: though he was like bizarre and the characters like wacky 895 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: and kind of sky. It's like our movie part of it, Um, 896 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: that he played Willy Wonka so tender, and Charlie was 897 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: so poor and was so like good and loving, and 898 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 1: it like when the first time I saw it, I 899 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: was like, this is terrible, Like this Charlie is not 900 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: getting anything and and he's been kids are dying, Yeah, 901 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: they start dying, Like what's happening? Um and Charlie And 902 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: then obviously to spoiler alert in the original version, he 903 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: gives the place to Charlie um, and I just thought 904 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: that was just like such a wonderful thing, and you know, 905 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 1: growing up as a little poor kid, I was like, oh, yes, yes, 906 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean the thing is too Like you mentioned, like 907 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: it's a horror movie. That is so true too, because 908 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: on paper, on paper, it's a it's about a creepy 909 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: man who wants kids to come to his big house. 910 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: He allows them to bring their guardians who sell their 911 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: children out, and they all come and he puts them 912 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: through a series of tests where he feeds them things, 913 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: and uh, they willingly take it, despite not knowing where 914 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: this comes from or drugs them or whatever it is, 915 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: and one by one they all suffer intense maladies that would, ordinarily, 916 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: if this wasn't a novel turned into a film, lead 917 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: to sure death. And you don't really know at the 918 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: end of the movie what happens to the other kids. 919 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: You sort of see that they're just like physically changed 920 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: for what seems to me forever. But it's really kind 921 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: of dark and weird, and like it's dark. Yeah, it's 922 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: it is, like it's in a way, it's sort of 923 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 1: like Wizard of Oz on acid. Yeah, especially when they 924 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: go through that tunnel and he's like playing that flute 925 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: and you know, the they're like, you know and that 926 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: it's like a boat that goes through the tunnel and 927 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: the original version and they're like a trip in out 928 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: and they're like screaming. It's like a thereman, like a 929 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: thereman is or something. Yeah, I'm curious. I'm curious why 930 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: Violet for you? Though? What was it about Violet beau 931 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: regard she was? She seemed like a little New Yorker 932 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know what, not that I was in 933 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: love with the city of New York at that age, 934 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 1: but I was in love with that kind of attitude. 935 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: It's very spunky and and um and I love blueberries 936 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: and I just thought it was so cool that she 937 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: would like turn into a big old blueberry. I just 938 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: thought it was the fiercest thing ever. And she was 939 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 1: a redhead and the actress was a redhead in the show. Yeah, well, 940 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: who are who are you? Boone? Who do you identify with? 941 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: I am probably I guess in the Mike TV. I 942 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: don't know you are, but not really. I want to 943 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 1: say I'm a Verruca, but Verruca is like I think 944 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: maybe you're I want today, I want tomorrow. I want 945 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: to now, or you'll scream or I'll scream, and I 946 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 1: might know. I'm Augustus, Gloube, I'm Augustus. I don't want 947 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: to see I don't want what happens to Augusta's to 948 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 1: happen to you. Because the boy drowned and because he can't, 949 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 1: because he can't help but drink the chocolate. I'm like girl, 950 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: the self control. It's the lack of self control for me. 951 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 1: It's the lack of self control for me. But okay, 952 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: on the subject of horror movies, because I do agree 953 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: that this is a horror movie. Oh, Han says, bone 954 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: is obviously Charlie, No, that's not true. Honestly, Charlie, No, 955 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm not. No, I don't accept. I reject Peppermint. I 956 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: feel like you are a connoisseurs of movies, of horror movies. 957 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: So what what are you? What are your top give 958 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,919 Speaker 1: your top three? I was gonna say three horror. That's 959 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: so difficult. Uh, well, I have a I'm a okay, 960 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: so my top three horror movies are. You have to 961 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: know that my genre of choice is zombie or sickness. Um, 962 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: and so my top three horror movies might, but overall 963 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,280 Speaker 1: here's my top three. The The my favorite horror movie 964 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: is Return of the Living Dead from George A. Romero. 965 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:39,240 Speaker 1: This is the eighties kind of comedy, UM zombie horror 966 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: UM where the kids go into the graveyard and you 967 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: know what happens, Yes, the zombies and the sue these zombies. 968 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: And also a front runner for the title about yes. Uh, 969 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: my next favorite, I'd say just because of the impact, 970 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: the cultural impact, UM and where it came I guess 971 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: for me, and the age was the Conjuring. UM. You know, 972 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 1: if I watch it back now, I'm kind of okay. 973 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: But the fact that they were able to because what 974 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: I really appreciate now is what horror movies can do, um, 975 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: given the limitations or whatever they have or what you know. UM. 976 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: And so in in in a moment in time where 977 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: we had just come out off of a lot of 978 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: like saul and hostile and like torture porn, which are 979 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: not my favorite, UM, the Conjuring was very reserved and 980 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: so they're what It's not very gory, it's more of 981 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 1: a suspense, but it is scary. It was scary as hell. 982 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: I saw it in theater. UM. And so the Conjuring 983 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: Number two, uh, my third favorite, and um, I it's 984 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: not because I liked this movie, but it's scared the 985 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: hell out of me so much that I just respected. 986 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: But I will never see it again. I respect it 987 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: probably more than I respect any other horror movie because 988 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: I will watch a horror movie at any time of 989 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: day or night. I will never see this movie again. 990 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: It shook you too greatly. It shook me. It made 991 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: me think things that I never want to even think again. 992 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: It scared me to the core. It is hereditary. I 993 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: knew you were going to say hereditary. I knew because 994 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: I felt that I had the same response for days. 995 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm I've never thought about these images 996 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: in my life, and what would it look like? What 997 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: would it look like from my mom to to do 998 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: like yeah, because because the scene where the next morning 999 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: she wakes up and like sees what's in the car 1000 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: that scream she lets it. I was just like, I'm 1001 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 1: literally I've never I've never seen it because I cannot 1002 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: bring myself see I mean, I can't do it, but 1003 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't see this. You know that that one like 1004 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: that and from what everyone says about Midsomar too, Like 1005 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: it seems like those on modern like in terms of 1006 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: like what modern horror films like are experimenting with, and 1007 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: it seems like this guy is experimenting with like I'm 1008 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: not interested in. But just even hearing you say that 1009 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: Tony Collette's performance, um like I was ready for her 1010 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: to be nominated for an Oscar just people the way 1011 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: she should have been. She should have been. But like 1012 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: it's it's like even you saying that that was a thing, 1013 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: I just had full body chills, you know what. I 1014 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: was like, not excited about what. You know, you know 1015 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, right, Matt, Yes, I know you 1016 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 1: know what happened. I read. I read synopsis. I I read, 1017 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 1: like detailed synopsis of all these movies, the whole movie. 1018 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,439 Speaker 1: The biggest turn I have ever taken in a movie. Yeah. 1019 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 1: But the movie that I was really excited about coming 1020 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 1: out this year. Culturally, I wasn't going to see it because, um, 1021 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: I can't sit through them, I'll have a panic attack. 1022 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: But I was excited for it was the remake of 1023 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: Candy Man because when I was a young kid, that 1024 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: the part of the trailer, part of the trailers, Yeah, 1025 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 1: that was iconic. That was iconic trailer moment. I literally 1026 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: will not say the name of the film again because 1027 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: I fear saying it a third time. But when I 1028 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: was little, I went over for a sleepover to my 1029 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: cousin's house and we were watching the movie Candy Man 1030 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: and the Original, and I can't describe to you how 1031 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: scarred I was hearing the voice, like that voice was 1032 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: so sexy to me. Oh my god, you are built different. 1033 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. Oh it's not good. Okay, So 1034 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: that's what I hear. For me as a kid. It 1035 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: was fucking scared, and so it was being it was 1036 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: being remade this year. I believe Jordan Pill was producing it, 1037 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know what happened to that. Well, what 1038 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: happened was the coronavirus just pushed it to next year. 1039 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: So they didn't want they didn't want, they didn't want 1040 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: it to not have its do and so they're watching 1041 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: it the next year. But basically it's actually like, really, 1042 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: if you really read about it and really watch it, 1043 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 1: like and experience it for more than it just scaring 1044 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: the ship about you, It's actually about race relations and 1045 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: it's actually like it's it's actually kind of applicable to 1046 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: the cultural the cultural conversation right now. And so that's 1047 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: why I was excited about it coming out, because it 1048 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: seems like it was being like remade in the image 1049 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: of this time. Yes, yeah, so I was excited, and 1050 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: that's fair and that's where I do and I respect 1051 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: that it didn't It didn't land for me as a 1052 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: kid or whenever. I don't know, I was obviously a kid. Um, Yeah, 1053 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 1: it didn't land for me for some reason. So I 1054 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: was just like not understanding. I was like, girl, just then, 1055 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: just don't say his name. That's true, it is on 1056 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: the blot hole. Well, that's like, That's what I love 1057 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 1: about Scream, is it like it plays with the idea 1058 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: that people are doing stupid ship like you know what 1059 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Like so many of these movies like and 1060 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: obviously Scream is like a horror comedy classic and consciously 1061 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: doing that. But I was like, finally, like when I 1062 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: watched it again recently because it is it is a 1063 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: horror movie that I'll watch. Um, I was like, that 1064 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 1: is so cool that they decided to really flip this 1065 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 1: genre on its head and even in doing that, created 1066 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 1: a classic store the genre. And now it's getting a fifth, 1067 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,919 Speaker 1: So it's like a new did you not know? Oh yeah, 1068 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: we all back, nevs back and he's back, David is back. Yeah, okay, Pet, 1069 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: she's grabbing the she's grabbing her for her surroundings. I 1070 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: would imagine you're a scream you're a scream fan. I'm 1071 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: a screen fan. I've seen every single one of them. 1072 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: I think they're fantastic. My favorite and scariest scene and 1073 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: scream gosh, was it Screen three with um whatever one 1074 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Parker post he was in, Yes, She's three and three 1075 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: where they're in and out of the house. I don't 1076 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: know if you probably didn't see it then, um or 1077 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 1: did you see the whole? Did you see screams? I've 1078 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: seen because I can deal with screams of them when 1079 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: they're getting the script and the right and the scare 1080 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 1: and the killer is writing the script as they're experiencing it, 1081 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: and they're reading the script to figure out who's going 1082 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 1: to get killed, and they're going in. They sharp the 1083 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: lights and they're in the house, and then they go 1084 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: to out the house, and then they go back in 1085 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 1: and then that's so that part is so suspenseful and 1086 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:37,919 Speaker 1: so good. Those are they really are so good. I okay, 1087 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: let's talk about Janet, because Janet Jane, you don't tell 1088 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: me nothing. Well, I actually think so. So the Janet 1089 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 1: album correct me if I'm wrong. This was really a 1090 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 1: huge album for her because this was when she really 1091 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: started to own her sexuality. No, yes, they're real. Now 1092 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: they're real, start of it for a Okay, let's talk 1093 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 1: about this on Control. I mean, first of all, she 1094 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: has a sexy song on every album. That's normal, like 1095 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: everybody has sex, and so she has sex song on 1096 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: every album. On Control, which is the album before the 1097 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: Rhythm Nation, her sexy song, her sexy Nasty, but it 1098 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 1: was um, some day is tonight, which is basically kind 1099 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: of like any time any place, which was on the 1100 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: Janet album. It's like, let's do it, We've been waiting 1101 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: for because she had let's wait awhile and then some 1102 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: day is tonight, like let's wait for someday when we'll 1103 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 1: do it, and then tonight when the has been conversations, 1104 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Hello honey, um. And so she had that, but she 1105 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: never had like a whole project, right, and those were 1106 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: always like the deep cuts and so the moment in 1107 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: time which she credits her sexuality Awakening was the filming 1108 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 1: of Poetic Justice. Yeah, they came out the same year. Um, 1109 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: but we already to see a little bit of her 1110 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: belly button at the end of Rhythm Nation, which was 1111 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: not very sexy. The album was not very sex She 1112 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 1: was all buttoned up and she had you know, it 1113 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: was more like militant. Yeah. Yeah, but uh love will 1114 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Never Do Without You was her sexiest video up to 1115 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: date up to that point. Um. And then she right 1116 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 1: after that, she because she she released that Would Never 1117 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 1: Do Without You, and then went and filmed Poetic Justice, 1118 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: and then a couple of a couple of years later 1119 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: it came out. Um, and so that so, yes, she's 1120 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: very sexy for for the Janet album and was grabbing 1121 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: crotches and having her tips grabbed on the album cover. 1122 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 1: She was like, forget my belly button, let's show you 1123 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: some titties. Um. And it was on the Rolling Stones cover, 1124 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 1: which was like like like it was like he was 1125 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 1: a different person. Yes. So this this is the album 1126 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: that has all these interludes throughout it, which all the 1127 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: best very mastered. The interlude on that album, Yeah, she 1128 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: did this felt like the cohesive sex project. It's so right. Yeah, 1129 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: for sure, and that's it's um, it's that's what we 1130 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: love goes. And if or no, wait, what's what's what's 1131 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: on that? That's where if anytime any place. Yes, yes, 1132 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. Okay, uh, yes, that's where it goes. Yes, 1133 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: that's the way I love goes. That's where it goes. 1134 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: That was the first single, which was it was like, 1135 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: it's obviously it's like a really mellow song, and that 1136 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 1: was um j Loo. We mentioned Jaylor earlier. Jayla was 1137 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: originally supposed to be one of her backup dancers UM 1138 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: and it was like Janet had always um debuted a 1139 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: single like a big dance song. This time she debuted 1140 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: just her. It was like filmed in a in a house, 1141 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: just her and the kids, her dancers sitting around. It 1142 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: was very chill. It's very different. Your your your your 1143 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:57,520 Speaker 1: favorite Janet album, my favorite Janet Experience album, the videos, 1144 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,919 Speaker 1: the concert that's amazing. Yeah. And it's also it's funny 1145 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 1: because by the time I Carol became aware of Janet UM, 1146 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 1: she already was like a sex icon, you know, like 1147 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 1: because because this came out of ninety three, so it's 1148 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 1: like throughout pretty much the rest of the nineties, sexuality 1149 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 1: was like pretty much synonymous with Janet Jackson because Matt, 1150 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: you and I came in around like for for me, 1151 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 1: like our age, like we came in around all for You. 1152 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: I would say, no, my my first, my first real 1153 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Janet moment was there about us when okay, so that 1154 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 1: was my Janet moment. And then All for You was 1155 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 1: her like sort of mainstream moment, right, and then she 1156 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: was in the fucking clumps and she gave it. I know, 1157 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, fact, what's going on here? What happened to 1158 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 1: that belly button girl? Yeah? I know. But it was 1159 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: nice for me to work backwards from All for You, 1160 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 1: which is very like poppy, mainstream whatever, but then to 1161 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 1: go like but then like college, I got in my 1162 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: timeline as all messed up with Janna. But college was 1163 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 1: control and controls like the Jana album. I know, it's 1164 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 1: so strong. It's strong principle, it's one of the principles. Ever, 1165 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Like just when the movie Hustler started and the very 1166 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 1: first line is this is a story about control, it 1167 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: was like already was like this movie already gets it 1168 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: on such a deep level. Yeah, the music was another 1169 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: character in the show. Yes, in the movie. Yes it was. 1170 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 1: It really got it. And like, you know, not to 1171 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 1: detour too much, but speaking of j Lo, like her 1172 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 1: idea to have Criminal by Fiona Apple be that song 1173 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 1: that she's stripped to genius like and honestly Jayla saying 1174 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 1: just Jlo playing gimme more and going this is my 1175 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 1: this is not song that I think Hustlers is an 1176 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: underrated movie and I think it should have gotten It 1177 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 1: should have gotten Oscar you know, did it. I mean, 1178 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: there was a little bit of us in the very beginning, 1179 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 1: There was a little bit of buzz in the very beginning, 1180 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: but those performances, the story, I just everything about it 1181 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 1: was such a brilliant movie. And I think people, I 1182 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 1: imagine that people probably kind of sold it short just 1183 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: because of who was in it, the women that were 1184 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 1: in it, well and and then and then it was women. 1185 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 1: And I think the fact of the matter is if 1186 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: that film is directed by a man, or it's even 1187 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 1: or if there's even more men in it, or if 1188 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 1: it's about men in any small way more, I think 1189 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,599 Speaker 1: it warrants more consideration on their part. But the fact 1190 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 1: that good twelve Ocean thirteen, oh my god, there's too 1191 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: many and I think I think the fact that the 1192 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 1: director was a young woman and it's starred two women 1193 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 1: of color, people people honestly like it just didn't get 1194 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,160 Speaker 1: the respect that it deserved. And I hear people kind 1195 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,560 Speaker 1: of pick apart like it's narrative. It's like, you know 1196 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 1: the way the screenplay works, and I'm like, y'all know 1197 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: that you're just trying to find ways to justify it 1198 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 1: not getting its due, and there is no justification. That 1199 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 1: was one of the movies. It was one of the 1200 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,719 Speaker 1: movies that really good movie. I do want to observe 1201 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 1: something and point out something back to Janet. I feel 1202 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 1: like this is not to make a too full circle, 1203 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 1: but I feel like I don't think Janet fans have 1204 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 1: like a name, Like there's no like pet fandom stand 1205 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: name for Janet? Are they not rhythm nation? I guess 1206 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 1: the Rhythm nation that's collective, right, Yes, that's right. Um. 1207 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,679 Speaker 1: I feel like, and this is just what's informing Peppermin 1208 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: being like, I'm not gonna like stand anybody the way 1209 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 1: that the kids are these days because I come from 1210 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,640 Speaker 1: a time when, um not that it's like dating you 1211 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: like so crazily, but it's like you coming from a 1212 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 1: time when like you just really like enjoyed someone's experience 1213 01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: and you didn't have to like assign yourself an id 1214 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,560 Speaker 1: don't need to it. You could just like come in 1215 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 1: and absorb it, you know. Yeah, and that's and and 1216 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 1: maybe I definitely think that has to do with me, 1217 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 1: my my bracket. Um yeah, for sure, for sure. I've 1218 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 1: just googled it. And she does not have a like 1219 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: fan group. Yeah, yeah, I think that's classy. I think 1220 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: that's nice. We don't have to name it. We're a 1221 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: Janet Jackson fan. Yeah yeah, Okay. This, by the way, this, 1222 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: this Wikipedia page that I'm on claims that Kelly Clarkson's 1223 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 1: fans are called Calabrities, and I can confirm with two 1224 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: that that is not true. Um, I don't identify as 1225 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 1: a Calabrity. It's just two. It gets like tacky. It's 1226 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: just this too. I mean, I know it's supposed to 1227 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 1: be cute and not take it up too seriously, but 1228 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: it is kind of like no, you know, because if 1229 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 1: you're the person and you hate that, like you know, 1230 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: and also you can't change it. Like Ariona's fan forever 1231 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: are called aria Naders, and she's got to live with 1232 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: that when she's forward. That is so stupid. Depending on 1233 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: how you pronounced that, it's so unfortunate in a Oh Jesus, 1234 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 1: I didn't even hear that. I've heard it, and that sucks. 1235 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:26,559 Speaker 1: That's as kitty cats. Is that what Katie's fans are? 1236 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Hers are the Katie Cats here. Here's just a few. 1237 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 1: Little Monster has not aged well as a Gaga fan myself. 1238 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 1: I feel like little Monster. I think Little Monster adds, 1239 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: I mean, holds up more than most. I mean none, 1240 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 1: none of them are as good as a Elia Banks's 1241 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 1: count brigade. Um. Of course, we have the bee Hive, 1242 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 1: which I think it's not fair. I mean, look, I'm 1243 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: not gonna say anything about the bee Hive, but I 1244 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 1: have a little bit of confusion be because I'm the 1245 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,679 Speaker 1: only person I heard talking about that was a little 1246 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: can little cam. Yeah. She she even says like, I'm 1247 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,560 Speaker 1: the Queen Bee. I'm the real queen. I don't know 1248 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 1: who this other queen Bee is saying she is, but 1249 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, and then we have what do we 1250 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 1: have here? We have got let's see, obviously the Rihanna Navy, 1251 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 1: which I do like. I like navy, but it's a 1252 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 1: lot of colms like Mishandlings. It's like there it was 1253 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 1: one person's job to come up with this, whether it 1254 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 1: was on the person's team or outside in the fandom. 1255 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 1: But it's like the wholesale adoption of this amongst everything. 1256 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,760 Speaker 1: You gotta call you. It's like the R Now you 1257 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 1: get a name. You gotta get a name. It's so gimmicky. 1258 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 1: This says that Mariah Carey's Lambs are often credited as 1259 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: being the first fandom name. I don't think that's true. 1260 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 1: I think it was the be Hive. Well, you need 1261 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 1: to you need to send an email to Wikipedia then 1262 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,600 Speaker 1: and right, Oh honey, I've had sent emails to Wikipedia 1263 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:05,680 Speaker 1: Dark trust me, Darling and esctially rule culture number one 1264 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 1: and three. Sometimes you have to send it darling, and 1265 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,560 Speaker 1: You're not easy. I don't have a Wikipedia page. I 1266 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 1: don't know what I have to do. I didn't know 1267 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,600 Speaker 1: that I had when either I was uh, you know, 1268 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 1: googling myself as one does. And um, it was probably 1269 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 1: around the time I just got on drag Race and 1270 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,200 Speaker 1: I realized that there was a Wikipedia page for me, 1271 01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 1: and it had a lot of personal information and I 1272 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 1: just ignored it. I'm like, and then a year or 1273 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: so later, like a year ago whatever. Um. I was like, okay, 1274 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: this information is wrong. They keep running wrong information. And 1275 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't like age and stuff like that. Like I'm like, okay, fine, 1276 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, but they were like putting my dead name 1277 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 1: and putting also putting my like quote unquote real name, 1278 01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:02,120 Speaker 1: my government name, which actually wasn't even accurate, and and 1279 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,600 Speaker 1: and but what ended up having long story short, is 1280 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,840 Speaker 1: someone put it on Wikipedia at the same time that 1281 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: somebody printed it in a magazine and a magazine I 1282 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: would say which, And so then it became what is 1283 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 1: known as circular reporting. I never heard of this, and 1284 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 1: they so they each each uh um outlet was crediting 1285 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 1: the other as the original source. The magazine was saying 1286 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,680 Speaker 1: they got from Wikipedia. Wikipedia was saying they got it 1287 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 1: from the magazine. And I'm like, one of y'all can't 1288 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 1: be you can't both be right, um, And I was 1289 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 1: so I told I basically told the magazine was like 1290 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 1: look and every other magazine. I went through every single 1291 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,600 Speaker 1: story that had my name in it and said, I 1292 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 1: need you to take out either my dead name or 1293 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 1: do not print my this other name. None of this 1294 01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 1: information is correct. Take it down and they many of 1295 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,640 Speaker 1: them did. Only one of them refused because they were 1296 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 1: like the original one. And then Wikipedia refused and it 1297 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,600 Speaker 1: had They have like levels of um because you know, 1298 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 1: anyone can edit Wikipedia, but they have levels of like 1299 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,080 Speaker 1: wizardry where different people can you know, be their grand 1300 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,680 Speaker 1: not the grand Wizard, but the grand Wizard of Wikipedia. 1301 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 1: A front runner from title of Unfortunately the arianators are 1302 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 1: running it. No no, oh my god, hell anyway, so 1303 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: they can? I luncher short. I posted to my to 1304 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 1: like people, to my followers, I was like, can someone 1305 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 1: please help me? I know one y'all knows how to 1306 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 1: edit this Wikipedia. Can somebody please do it? And so 1307 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,599 Speaker 1: someone did and like a teenager was like, hey, I'll help. 1308 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,639 Speaker 1: And they had like levels one access and they change 1309 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 1: it and then it just kept going up the run. Uh. 1310 01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Then the next person who had level the next level 1311 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 1: access changed it back, and then the next person that 1312 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 1: level the next level, and it went all the way 1313 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,759 Speaker 1: up until someone at the like level seventy five access 1314 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 1: was like, I'm deleting all of you be gone and 1315 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 1: they and they're like, I'm changing it all back, and 1316 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 1: it all went back to the original shadiness and I 1317 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,560 Speaker 1: was like, this is not right. And I was like, 1318 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,719 Speaker 1: there's no forum. I was like, this is my information. 1319 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 1: I know what my name is, and this is not it. 1320 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 1: And they were not having it. They're like, sorry, it's 1321 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 1: out there, it's been published. It's as far as we're concerned, 1322 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,439 Speaker 1: it's real. And I was like, oh no, because they 1323 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 1: say their principle is that if a rep if any 1324 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 1: outlet or which is a flawed but they're like, if 1325 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: a reputable, if it's printed, it must be true. That's 1326 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 1: what Wikipedia is philosophy is. So the way that they 1327 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 1: justify something being on a Wikipedia pages, they they source 1328 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,479 Speaker 1: it like a bibliography exactly. So if anyone else, if 1329 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,800 Speaker 1: you get it from a source, if you get it 1330 01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 1: from a source, that source obviously did their their they're 1331 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,560 Speaker 1: due diligence. So we can trust our sources, but you 1332 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 1: can't trust all of your sources at the end of 1333 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 1: the day. That is like I mean, in that moment, 1334 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 1: that is like inaccurate and and also just plainly transphobic. 1335 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,760 Speaker 1: If they're why am I not a source? Why don't 1336 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:21,280 Speaker 1: I count as a source? Right? So okay, So I've 1337 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 1: always wondered how it fucking works, Like did you did 1338 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 1: you guys just like go on one day and all 1339 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you had a Wikipedia all of a 1340 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 1: sudden one day, all of a sudden, and this is 1341 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 1: this is no, we're near the same level of distressing. 1342 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,479 Speaker 1: But but my Wikipedia, for whatever reason, says I majored 1343 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 1: in microbiology and college and not chemistry. And I keeping like, 1344 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,679 Speaker 1: where the fund did they get that from? And I'm sure, 1345 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure, pepper Man, I'm sure. It's like a circular 1346 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 1: reporting thing where it's like one publication printed it and 1347 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,560 Speaker 1: then now it's being even though I even though I 1348 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 1: can be like ha ha l o, l um, if 1349 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna beg for my money every three fucking months, 1350 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 1: you can at least take my word for it that 1351 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I wasn't a microbiology major. You know. 1352 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 1: It's so that's so that that is really upset. It's 1353 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,720 Speaker 1: the worst, and they don't want to list them. But 1354 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 1: finally one of them told me, look, this is what 1355 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 1: you gotta do. You gotta get on and you have 1356 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 1: to make a public declaration. And so I got on 1357 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 1: there on Twitter and I made a public declaration. This 1358 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 1: is my name. If you call me anything other than 1359 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,200 Speaker 1: that you are being disrespectful. I do not want to 1360 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: be dead named. It's transphobic to use my old name. 1361 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 1: And then my name is what I tell you it is. 1362 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 1: End of story. And then they said that that would work, 1363 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 1: and it actually was the I guess, the catalyst for 1364 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,479 Speaker 1: them to open the conversation again amongst the committee. And 1365 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 1: then they had one of these people told me who 1366 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,360 Speaker 1: It's like they have a culture at Wikipedia. Who came who? 1367 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,599 Speaker 1: Who came to my social media? It was like, girl, 1368 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 1: they are having a conference about your name and whether 1369 01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,080 Speaker 1: to redo your thing. They're having a whole forum about it. 1370 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 1: And I'm not able to contribute because I'm I'm just 1371 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 1: level two, but I'm able to witness it. And and 1372 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,559 Speaker 1: this is what's going down, and they're blah blah blah. 1373 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, is anyone fighting for me? 1374 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 1: And there and they're like, yeah, somebody is. And eventually 1375 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,679 Speaker 1: it won. I mean like I was a court case. Yeah, 1376 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's like you have to win to be 1377 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 1: who called who you are. And then also it's like, 1378 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 1: I'm I haven't looked, but is it like I would 1379 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 1: imagine that. It's like it won't allow it to just 1380 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 1: be like, and Peppermint's name is Peppermint. It's like December 1381 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,599 Speaker 1: nineteen or two thousand seventeen, Peppermint declared that her name 1382 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:44,439 Speaker 1: is Actually this is just like that basically, Yeah, the 1383 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,679 Speaker 1: bureaucratic like nonsense of all that is so so stupid. 1384 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but listen, you want you beat the Grand 1385 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 1: Wizard and we love that. The only reason, the only 1386 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 1: reason I want one is because I feel like every 1387 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,760 Speaker 1: time someone googles me, there's so there's like eight other 1388 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,600 Speaker 1: Matt Rogers is. I like, literally, if you google me, 1389 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,559 Speaker 1: it's some pictures of me and some pictures of an 1390 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 1: American Idol contestant from season two, and it's like, also 1391 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,720 Speaker 1: who also like hosts a show about like I don't know, 1392 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,320 Speaker 1: trucks or something because he's straight, and I'm just like, 1393 01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,040 Speaker 1: I'd like everyone to know that I'm not this person. 1394 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 1: So I guess that's the only reason why I want one. Probably, 1395 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, whatever, it's gonna be like personal life, and 1396 01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those things where it's like 1397 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:31,160 Speaker 1: gay period. Look, if anyone's listening is if anyone listening 1398 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 1: as a teenager on level one, let us know, let's 1399 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 1: get the Matt Rodgers Wikipedia page and started with this 1400 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 1: sort of I don't think so honey, energy We're gonna 1401 01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 1: take a quick break and return with I don't think 1402 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 1: so honey, and we are bad all right, So here 1403 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 1: we are. It's I don't think so honey. On this 1404 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 1: the episode of Last Culturist that is featuring the one 1405 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 1: the Only Peppermint. So this is our segment that we 1406 01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 1: do bow and on I and our guests where we 1407 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,320 Speaker 1: take sixty seconds to rail against something in culture that's 1408 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,479 Speaker 1: just absolutely killing us in a way where we can 1409 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,040 Speaker 1: no longer contain ourselves and it has to be brought down. 1410 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,639 Speaker 1: So um, I do have a topic bow that was okay, 1411 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,240 Speaker 1: sort of came up, came up today, oh okay, and 1412 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,160 Speaker 1: it arose in my mind today as a result of 1413 01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 1: my uh hobby might not hobbies, my errands errands that 1414 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 1: I was running. You had told me, okay, So this 1415 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so honey. As 1416 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,799 Speaker 1: time starts now, I don't think so honey. Credit card culture, 1417 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk I'm doing When I 1418 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 1: go into Chase and they're like, you need to get 1419 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 1: a new credit card. Maximums minimums. I don't know what 1420 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 1: the fun this is. I don't know what a one 1421 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,599 Speaker 1: to one point thing is. I don't know what points 1422 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: on a credit card are. I don't know when when 1423 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 1: I should be using my credit card, when I should 1424 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,800 Speaker 1: be using my TapIt card. To be honest with you, 1425 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 1: this is just a part of my culture that I 1426 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 1: just don't think, so, honey, I don't know anything about it. 1427 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 1: I was never taught how to use one. What's the deal? 1428 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, these dudates sneak up on you 1429 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:06,880 Speaker 1: and they're like your pastor too. It's like, what do 1430 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 1: I have to put this on my Google cow? Mychol 1431 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,400 Speaker 1: calls already full. I don't think so that there's enough 1432 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 1: space for it. How the funk am I supposed to 1433 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 1: know that? Like I'm it's time for Like, oh, so 1434 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,240 Speaker 1: how do you how do you build credit? I don't know, so, honey. 1435 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 1: I just I got I wanted to get a better 1436 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,960 Speaker 1: credit card, and I want to get the Chase sapp fire. 1437 01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 1: I said, so let's close out my Chase Freedom. They said, no, 1438 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,479 Speaker 1: we can't close out the Chase Freedom. It's not time. 1439 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,840 Speaker 1: Do I know why? I don't think, so, honey, and 1440 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,680 Speaker 1: that's one minute. I find myself completely confused as to 1441 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 1: the world of credit cards. And that's designed I got. Yeah. Yeah, 1442 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,479 Speaker 1: the only thing you're supposed to know about credit cards 1443 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 1: is that you're supposed to use it to buy things. 1444 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,760 Speaker 1: That's the only thing they want you to know. Yeah, 1445 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 1: this is this is how you build good credit. Um, 1446 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,479 Speaker 1: you use it to buy things. Literally, and like the 1447 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 1: magic number, you only you only use that a third 1448 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,960 Speaker 1: of your credit line. Okay, but you you keep it 1449 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,040 Speaker 1: at that and you're not you pay on time. And also, um, 1450 01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,280 Speaker 1: the longer you have a credit card, the better credit 1451 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,320 Speaker 1: you build. This is what I want I understand how 1452 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,000 Speaker 1: to use a credit I'm sort of leaning into it. 1453 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't think of money, but I will say one 1454 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 1: thing is like when they show you the perks on 1455 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 1: the bonuses, I'm always like, what does any of this 1456 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 1: ship mean? Like what, like, how does it relate to anything? 1457 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,680 Speaker 1: I just I feel like it's unclear and never has 1458 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 1: been explained to me. And when I tell bank people, 1459 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 1: I literally will be like, you need to explain this, 1460 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 1: like you're talking to an idiot, because you are, and 1461 01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,240 Speaker 1: they're like, okay, cool nine percent, And I'm like what 1462 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,000 Speaker 1: is percents. What is all we need to? I mean, 1463 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do an assignment for you and me. We 1464 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 1: need to, we need to. Actually, I think it's time 1465 01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: for us to start and points culture whoa yeah, yeah, yeah, 1466 01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: what what say it again? For the point guy? You 1467 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:10,000 Speaker 1: don't follow him Darling Lavish Okay, he's he's this gay 1468 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: man who knows all about credit cards and I feel 1469 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,040 Speaker 1: like he can walk. He can walk you through it 1470 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,759 Speaker 1: if even pass credit cards. Now it's it's membership clubs. 1471 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 1: It's he does. Really he It's not just that he. 1472 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,559 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I guess it depends on the program 1473 01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:30,000 Speaker 1: that he's using for the credit card, because he really 1474 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,679 Speaker 1: knows how to use those perks. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1475 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 1: And I just need someone to navigate for me how 1476 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,080 Speaker 1: I can because I don't want to hear. And I 1477 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,519 Speaker 1: know it's true, Like I know that I'm not using 1478 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,679 Speaker 1: whatever system I'm involved in right now the correct way 1479 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,200 Speaker 1: or the way that's like causing me the most benefits. 1480 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,599 Speaker 1: And that bothers me, like like when as long as 1481 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,400 Speaker 1: the banks are making money, then none of us are. 1482 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Well exactly, I mean that that's the thing is, it's like, 1483 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,840 Speaker 1: I know that it doesn't matter to them, but it's like, 1484 01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be involved in this system of credit cards, 1485 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 1: which is like already I roll and I know the 1486 01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,679 Speaker 1: banks are taking advantage of advantage of us at every turn, 1487 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 1: I'd at least like to get what I can get 1488 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:05,880 Speaker 1: out of it. And if you're telling me I can 1489 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 1: get a free flight, I should know how exactly that's 1490 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 1: the true. That's the truth, honestly, Matt, get like the 1491 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,800 Speaker 1: get the Jet Blue master card and then you just 1492 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 1: get like miles or something. Yeah, but you know what 1493 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:18,880 Speaker 1: you can do that. I'm a Delta girl. I think 1494 01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: we should get into Points sky um and maybe we'll 1495 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 1: get him on the show. Would be an iconic guest. 1496 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,720 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I don't really know his deal. Okay, great, 1497 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,680 Speaker 1: I do know that he's gay. He's gay. I love 1498 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,240 Speaker 1: that I've got one. I've got one. That's good that 1499 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:36,760 Speaker 1: you have one. I'll tell you. What I don't have 1500 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,599 Speaker 1: is my phone on me. It's all the way over there. 1501 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,960 Speaker 1: So do you myself? Not at all? Okay, all right, 1502 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: this is Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey. His 1503 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,479 Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey, fifty eight 1504 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,880 Speaker 1: degrees and Sonny, what the hell am I supposed to do? 1505 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,559 Speaker 1: Am I wearing a shore and a long sleeve? Culture 1506 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,479 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be hot outside. It's it's gonna feel 1507 01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,599 Speaker 1: like the fifty eight degrees, But then the sun's gonna 1508 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,720 Speaker 1: feel like it's beaming down onto my skin and it's 1509 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,920 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna feel like I'm burning up down there 1510 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:07,600 Speaker 1: or just and down, and by down there, I mean 1511 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,000 Speaker 1: down everywhere on the body. It's just today was very 1512 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 1: confusing for me walking around outside. I do love I 1513 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 1: tend to love fall weathers there, it's this liminal space 1514 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,560 Speaker 1: where I'm not really We're not given the tools to 1515 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,639 Speaker 1: know what to do when it's fifty eight degrees and sunny. 1516 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,240 Speaker 1: It's like, what do you wear? It's like credit cards, 1517 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,720 Speaker 1: where it's it's by design. We're not supposed to know 1518 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,559 Speaker 1: what to do, what our recourses. So am I wearing 1519 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 1: long pants and a T shirt or Amy wearing a 1520 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 1: sweater and shorts? I don't know. There is no right answer, 1521 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,880 Speaker 1: but there is no wrong answer. But that leaves me 1522 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,479 Speaker 1: in the five secretory of choice. I don't know what 1523 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,559 Speaker 1: to do. I don't know where to go. Fifty eight 1524 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,479 Speaker 1: degrees and sunny your purgatory, and that's one minute. I 1525 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,120 Speaker 1: have to say you said that to the wrong person, 1526 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 1: because I'm I would die for fifty degrees and right 1527 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,000 Speaker 1: now I'm in l a where it's too fucking hot. 1528 01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 1: Were in the midst of our ninth heat wave of 1529 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,000 Speaker 1: the year, and it's just like, oh my god, fifty 1530 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,800 Speaker 1: degrees and sunny. That is a gorgeous deal. I love 1531 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 1: that you were. You are the New York You got 1532 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:11,120 Speaker 1: too used to you got too used to l A there, Bowen. 1533 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know you're right, You're right here. You 1534 01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,760 Speaker 1: can't because guess what, Bowen. Let me let me give 1535 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,519 Speaker 1: you two Let me give you and I don't think 1536 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:27,680 Speaker 1: so you were sitting I was sitting in Los Angeles, 1537 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,320 Speaker 1: captives in Los Angeles for as as I have been 1538 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,880 Speaker 1: from many projects, and uh, but what I was when 1539 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 1: I was from drag Race and all we had was TV. 1540 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,479 Speaker 1: We didn't have phone, your sequestion all about it, And 1541 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,479 Speaker 1: so I was watching the same TV and I got 1542 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:47,600 Speaker 1: to know, as one does, the local news team that 1543 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 1: would come on every day every morning, and homegirl the 1544 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,400 Speaker 1: weather I can't remember her name now, because I wiped 1545 01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: it out of my memory. The local weather lady on 1546 01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:03,200 Speaker 1: ABC in Los Angeles, don't remember her name. I thought 1547 01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,400 Speaker 1: I was going crazy. I don't know any because all 1548 01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 1: I had I don't know her. I had a window. 1549 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,280 Speaker 1: I was looking out the window and I'm like, damn, 1550 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,800 Speaker 1: this damn thing is the same weather every single day. 1551 01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 1: And then I turned on the thing and the woman 1552 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 1: on the thing they no lie, They're like, okay, things 1553 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,400 Speaker 1: And now to weather home girl gets on there and 1554 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:28,640 Speaker 1: she says, it's basically a carbon copy of yesterday, and 1555 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:35,479 Speaker 1: well that's iconic, and I'm like what. I'm like, I 1556 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,960 Speaker 1: knew it, and so I can't with l A. I'm sorry. 1557 01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,559 Speaker 1: I love you all, everyone, I love everyone, but the weather. 1558 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to be in a place where it's 1559 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,120 Speaker 1: the same weather every day for the rest of my life. 1560 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,720 Speaker 1: It's Groundhog Day. What's going on? You like? What? No? 1561 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,560 Speaker 1: You know what? I will say this during during like 1562 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, December to March, you get a good 1563 01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,880 Speaker 1: moment because especially like last February, it was raining every 1564 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 1: day and I was loving it. Was it was sort 1565 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,400 Speaker 1: of like you know, like like a like a like 1566 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,920 Speaker 1: a mid sixties moment with like a and it would 1567 01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,280 Speaker 1: get a little rainy. And I love that, Nelle, because 1568 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,960 Speaker 1: it's also dry and it's worried about the humidity dolling 1569 01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,920 Speaker 1: and so that's kind of like something that was my 1570 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:23,519 Speaker 1: Mariah slipping in like hit. But I just I can't 1571 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:28,120 Speaker 1: describe how easy it must be the fucking weather girl 1572 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,760 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, the easiest job in It must be 1573 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,320 Speaker 1: the easiest. She was like, it's basic. She was so 1574 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 1: over it, and I was like, whoa she's like and 1575 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 1: then she walked off. If that was her report, I 1576 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,920 Speaker 1: love it. And you can't say she's not doing a 1577 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,519 Speaker 1: good job. We're talking about her. We're talking about her. 1578 01:29:54,680 --> 01:30:01,160 Speaker 1: You have you have a doodle? My google talk. I 1579 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:05,840 Speaker 1: thought you were saying like a labord porg. Oh no, 1580 01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,200 Speaker 1: this is a pork this is this actually is my 1581 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 1: I've seen it's from It's actually from the last Yeah. 1582 01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,559 Speaker 1: A lot of the girls out there now are getting 1583 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,599 Speaker 1: a little baby Yoda dolls. But I have a little 1584 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,600 Speaker 1: pork um and he actually makes a sound. Would you 1585 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:28,599 Speaker 1: like to talk to him? Hold on? Yeah, it's cute. 1586 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,839 Speaker 1: It's like a bird thing. It's like a bird, mammal 1587 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 1: bird with for very cute, very cute. Okay, wait, Peppermint, Okay, 1588 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,720 Speaker 1: we didn't time you on that one, but you would 1589 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,960 Speaker 1: you like to know that's not my that's not my. 1590 01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I just wanted to make sure 1591 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,679 Speaker 1: it was just an I don't think so, honey. Addition, 1592 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,360 Speaker 1: this is the real thing. This is the real thing. 1593 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:51,880 Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure, and I knew that 1594 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:56,799 Speaker 1: Peppermint knew the rules. I wanted to make sure. Okay, 1595 01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 1: this is Peppermints. I don't think so, honey, and her 1596 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:05,040 Speaker 1: time starts now in the age of COVID, when everyone 1597 01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:09,400 Speaker 1: is locked in their house, and especially in the beginning 1598 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:15,240 Speaker 1: when nobody was leaving their apartments, I do not think so. 1599 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 1: To the people whoever is hacking up the food and 1600 01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:25,640 Speaker 1: putting the condiments in the bag, the condiments and the 1601 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,000 Speaker 1: utensils and the flatwear, I do not want to be 1602 01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,360 Speaker 1: sitting in a hotel room with no fork and not 1603 01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,040 Speaker 1: enough ketchup or too much catch up because I got eggs. 1604 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,559 Speaker 1: Nothing is right. I don't eat ketchup by my egg 1605 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,920 Speaker 1: And if I'm getting some Chinese food, I want more 1606 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,960 Speaker 1: than one packet of soy sauce. Houly I'm getting want. 1607 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,720 Speaker 1: Don't give me one packet and it do do not 1608 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:53,040 Speaker 1: ever send the bag to go and not put a 1609 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,320 Speaker 1: fork and a straw and a spoon and a knife. 1610 01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,960 Speaker 1: Nobody and already holding their own fork. You need to 1611 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,720 Speaker 1: go ahead and get your stuff together. You need to 1612 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 1: quit your job. I don't think so. Wow, I have 1613 01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,320 Speaker 1: to tell you something. This is exactly what I don't think, 1614 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,519 Speaker 1: so honey. It's all about. It's it's negotiating with the 1615 01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,280 Speaker 1: culture right now. You are dead ass. Every time I 1616 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,759 Speaker 1: order from Panda Expressed, they don't even put soy sauce 1617 01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:19,880 Speaker 1: in the bag every single time. And I'm like, not 1618 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,439 Speaker 1: for nothing, but y'all weren't the gourmet Chinese option, so 1619 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,640 Speaker 1: you put soy sauce in the bag. I'm sorry, you're not. 1620 01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 1: You're not a steakhouse where it's it's it's rude. Let's research, mama. 1621 01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:38,800 Speaker 1: Lets you know in there, girl, I know they have 1622 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:40,760 Speaker 1: what do you know? They have a whole back room 1623 01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,559 Speaker 1: all of the stuff. You can't be giving a girl 1624 01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:51,920 Speaker 1: one you have a really giving it away. What do 1625 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,240 Speaker 1: you what do you need all of it? What are 1626 01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:54,920 Speaker 1: you hoarding it? That's the thing I was like, I 1627 01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,200 Speaker 1: almost took their side in the beginning. I was like, 1628 01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they feel as though, like so many 1629 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:03,880 Speaker 1: orders are going out, we can't be giving away all 1630 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:08,440 Speaker 1: our supplies. It's like it is it is so ridiculous 1631 01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:13,320 Speaker 1: to give no fork, no knife, No, it is so crazy. 1632 01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that. Thank you for saying that. 1633 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:18,760 Speaker 1: And I know, I know we're not supposed to like 1634 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,320 Speaker 1: root for like putting utensils in the bag necessarily because 1635 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,519 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, is it bad for the environment, But 1636 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:31,080 Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes you need there's no way around it. And no, 1637 01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:37,439 Speaker 1: there's no Sometimes every time you get food, every time 1638 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 1: you get food, you need utensils and what unless we're 1639 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,600 Speaker 1: getting like what are we getting that hand? What do 1640 01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,280 Speaker 1: you order? That's okay? Pizza, okay, pizza. Do not give 1641 01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,439 Speaker 1: me a fork with pizza, No, that's it. But with 1642 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:54,160 Speaker 1: tiny food good I have a fork on that one. 1643 01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:59,800 Speaker 1: I need some bamboo fork on that one. Gonna fork 1644 01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,120 Speaker 1: on a knife on the You can't send food. You 1645 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,960 Speaker 1: have to assume that you want to. You do not 1646 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:07,760 Speaker 1: want to send your food out and have people be like, 1647 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,200 Speaker 1: well I can't eat this because I can't don't have 1648 01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,240 Speaker 1: what I need. Give them everything they need. Can you imagine? 1649 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,839 Speaker 1: And for someone like you who was often in hotels, 1650 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:23,040 Speaker 1: it's like, hello, I now I carry a fork and 1651 01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,880 Speaker 1: a knife and asprome But why should you have to 1652 01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 1: do that? Why do I? But that's ridiculous. It's more 1653 01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:33,559 Speaker 1: ridiculous for me to have to carry I will say, 1654 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:39,400 Speaker 1: she froze, but the way she froze was like someone's 1655 01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:45,640 Speaker 1: like a photo of it. This is the gorgeous I mean, stunning. Um, 1656 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:52,759 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get her back. You are okay, Honestly, 1657 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,200 Speaker 1: it's because you have so many appliances running over there. 1658 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:59,880 Speaker 1: You got that, Yeah, but oh my god, you are 1659 01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:05,240 Speaker 1: goddamnit our dead on Wow. I have to say this 1660 01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,640 Speaker 1: has been obvious. Emotional about that. Yeah, just truly. The 1661 01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 1: computer was you brought us there with you. Yeah, this 1662 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,040 Speaker 1: has been such a fun episode. I have to say, 1663 01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 1: I'm so exciting talking to you and finally getting you here. 1664 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,639 Speaker 1: And we're so thrilled for our girl like Me. Letters 1665 01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,679 Speaker 1: to my Lover's coming out in October sixteen, two thousand twenty, y'all, 1666 01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:27,639 Speaker 1: it's gonna help hopefully uh improved this year a little bit. 1667 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,000 Speaker 1: Um And the single is Best Sex and it's out 1668 01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,120 Speaker 1: right now, and I do want to. I know Bowen 1669 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:37,639 Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier the show Pep Talk next our first 1670 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:39,879 Speaker 1: I'm not sure when this air is, but our first premier, 1671 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:44,200 Speaker 1: our premier guests were Alaska and Bob and our brand 1672 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,880 Speaker 1: new show. And the second week we have miss Kole 1673 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:54,439 Speaker 1: whoa guests. Yeah, we gotta get we gotta get sle 1674 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,400 Speaker 1: on this pod we've had We've had Alaska and Bob 1675 01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:02,040 Speaker 1: and now the legendary Pep. But we were sort of 1676 01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:10,560 Speaker 1: making our way through the dragon girls like those. We 1677 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:15,240 Speaker 1: are race chasers first and foremost, Peppermint, this was fantastic. 1678 01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,240 Speaker 1: We love you so much, thank you for coming on 1679 01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,680 Speaker 1: my pleasure. I'm so happy to finally be here with 1680 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,840 Speaker 1: both of you. Well, you'll have to come back soon. 1681 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,960 Speaker 1: And you know Bowen, Yes, we always close out with 1682 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,080 Speaker 1: the song, and I think that we should close out 1683 01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,280 Speaker 1: with a song that sort of alludes to what's happening 1684 01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:38,400 Speaker 1: next week. Yes, and I do you can read I 1685 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:49,519 Speaker 1: was gonna say, it's just when that song is about 1686 01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,040 Speaker 1: Derek Jeter's come anyway by