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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in r Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is our number

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Speaker 3: two of the Drive. And as we typically do this

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Speaker 3: time of year, the start of our number two, it

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Speaker 3: is time to.

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Speaker 2: Do a little mock drafts. Mack it up, let's mark

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Speaker 2: it up here.

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Speaker 3: This is we're going to use the Pro Football Network Good,

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Speaker 3: so we're going to use that as our draft database here.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we always have Tony on at the at

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Speaker 3: the combine, so this is his his website here, and

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Speaker 3: the first nineteen picks are in. We are up now

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Speaker 3: at twenty. We have three trade offers. The Rams are

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Speaker 3: on the phone offering for fifty two, eighty three, ninety nine,

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Speaker 3: their twenty twenty five second round draft pick and their

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five fourth round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's I'm sure it adds up. Yeah, just boy,

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Speaker 2: it's a long way to goo. We're gonna say, let's

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Speaker 2: say no one. I'm going to reject that one. The

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Speaker 2: Cardinals are on the phone.

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Speaker 3: They're offering picks twenty seven and sixty six for twenty

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Speaker 3: and one ninety five.

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Speaker 2: We're recording on my draft tomorrow, and I predicted the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals would move to twenty.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what the third offer is. The third offer

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Speaker 3: is from Atlanta. Okay, they're offering pick forty three, pick

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Speaker 3: seventy four, uh, and their twenty twenty five second round

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Speaker 3: draft pick for twenty and next year, Washington's seventh round

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Speaker 3: pick next.

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Speaker 2: Year, which means nothing. Yeah, I mean that's I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's a nice haul. Yeah, that's a nice hall. I'd

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Speaker 2: consider either. I think that going to twenty seven makes

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Speaker 2: a little more sense, but those are serious, you know,

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Speaker 2: stuff coming back to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so late two is still there, Brian Thomas is

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Speaker 3: still there, Johnny Newton is still there. Byron Murphy is

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Speaker 3: still there. Don't like to hear that.

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Speaker 2: And I say, none of those guys defensive tackles. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: at least one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: To go before the pick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Thomas is going to. Amy mentioned that I'm pretty.

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Speaker 3: Exa about Jackson Powers, Johnson, Choup, Robinson, Cooper, Dejean.

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Speaker 2: Oh tackles must have got hit, tackles, got hip. J C.

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Speaker 3: Latham was a pick right before us. The Bengals took

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Speaker 3: Amarus Mims. It's at eighteen, so the tackles got hit hard.

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Speaker 2: Dejene and Thomas are the only two I think are

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Speaker 2: worth that pick. Yeah, I might roll the dice and

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Speaker 2: go back to twenty seven. Well here's the problem.

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Speaker 3: So, like we always say this, the Steelers will have

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Speaker 3: their list of guys that they would take at twenty.

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Speaker 3: If you're moving back to twenty seven, those guys might

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Speaker 3: all be gone. Oh I know, And that's what you

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Speaker 3: don't want to do.

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Speaker 2: I know, man, I'm just not doing cartwheels for either

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Speaker 2: one of them at this point. But I like both players.

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Speaker 2: I just Cardinals are offering us some good stuff though.

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Speaker 2: I get it, Yeah, I get it. Who would you

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Speaker 2: take between Thomas and Dejeene? Let me see who I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna or is there somebody else you like?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna counter this and close it slowly so I

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Speaker 2: don't freeze up the thing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, kool A McKinstry still there, Tyler Guitton is still there, giting.

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Speaker 2: I'm not say both those guys are fine prospects. I

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Speaker 2: think they'll be first round picks. But I would rather

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Speaker 2: your first pick in this draft was better than either

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Speaker 2: one of them. Yeah, this draft just hasn't really gone great.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks is there, Graham Barton is there? Mitchell's the name.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking we might get a twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: But if we moved down here, you got some some

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins. The Dolphins can scoop him up. You've got Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Somebody traded up with Seattle. Who is that? Oh that

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Speaker 3: was the Cowboys traded up to sixteen to take Fatanu.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Seattle definitely could be very o line. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: particularly particularly with an interior offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: Then you got Green Bay and New Orleans is back

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Speaker 3: now at twenty six because they traded back as well.

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Speaker 3: You're probably not going to get one of those linemen.

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Speaker 2: If you move back, you just gonna take Thomas at twenty.

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Speaker 2: I think I prefer him to the gene as the

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Speaker 2: way the Steelers are currently constructed.

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Speaker 3: As they're currently constructed, I would agree. Yeah, I'd also

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Speaker 3: like to know, you know which, here's the problem with

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Speaker 3: with people say we just do this and take Fraser

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Speaker 2: Fraser round two. You don't know that or take one

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Speaker 2: of the wide receivers in round two. You don't know

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Speaker 2: what you're gonna get one of those wide receivers that

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Speaker 2: you like. And that's the thing I don't like by

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Speaker 2: taking Thomas is I do think in round two there'll

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Speaker 2: be some receiver.

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Speaker 3: There be a receiver.

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Speaker 2: There might not be a center you like. You know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: do you want to roll the dice, go to twenty

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Speaker 2: seven and entertain offers if we get crushed again on

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Speaker 2: the net? Yeah, I mean, at least see what's behind

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Speaker 2: door number two.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna counter and see if we can swap some

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Speaker 3: picks next year too, Okay, because you get to get

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Speaker 3: twenty and one, twenty seven and sixty six, which is

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Speaker 3: very fair.

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Speaker 2: I would say that's a good deal. If we could

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Speaker 2: get their fifth or seventh or something.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Cherry, throw in a four and we'll

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Speaker 3: throw in next year's We got two fifths next year.

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Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. That could be fifty picks difference. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put in the middle. I'm gonna put in

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Speaker 2: our fifth. Okay, I like it, and I'm gonna make

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Speaker 2: that offer. They accepted that. So see what happened here?

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Now we're back up at twenty seven. We have two

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Speaker 3: trade offers. Brian Thomas is still there. Okay, good, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was hoping that the gene is still there. Great,

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Speaker 3: all right, right, the culture on the phone. They're offering

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Speaker 3: forty six, eighty two and next year's second for pick

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Speaker 2: Just saying those two names. I don't think I want

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Speaker 2: to go back that far. Yeah, I might go down

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Speaker 2: two spots. Kansas, Kansas City's on the phone. That's an

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Speaker 2: interesting one.

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Speaker 3: They're offering thirty two and next year second for pick

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Speaker 3: twenty seven, and it's gonna be a late second, but

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Speaker 3: it's a second.

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Speaker 2: I bet they like Brian Thomas. I'll bet they do

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Speaker 2: or tackle. Yeah, they kind of similar needs, or they

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Speaker 2: bet one of those two falls there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna reject that.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick and pick, reject, reject, I'm gonna change things.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I think we take Cooper dejene here. Really,

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Speaker 2: but we did get up an extra pick, and there's

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Speaker 2: an extra pick. There's gonna be receivers. I mean we

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Speaker 2: just said two seconds ago I'd take Thomas over to

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Speaker 2: we don't have a slot cornerback right now. Oh, I know.

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Speaker 2: I mean he would complete your.

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Speaker 3: Defense, and that is that is essentially a starter. And

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Speaker 3: two he takes over next to Minca, or he's an

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Speaker 3: outside cornerback or whatever he may do. He makes your

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Speaker 2: So I said five minutes ago, how those feelers are

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Speaker 2: currently constructed. Thomas is worth more to me than the Gene.

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Speaker 2: But now that we have a better pick after this trade,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a receive.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get it.

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Speaker 2: We'll get two. Yeah, I mean, we might get Wilson

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Speaker 2: not gonna get a Degene, no, you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: I would love that to be a tackle that's not

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Speaker 3: If we don't take him, we might not playing against

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Speaker 2: Iowa, dude. I mean, like screams are aving. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: we'll see how the draft goes. We do have extra

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Speaker 2: picks and stuff now, but I may not take anybody

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Speaker 2: in the back seven the rest of the draft. He's my,

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Speaker 2: he's my, you know, like doubt, Throw another lineman in

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Speaker 2: the mix, Throw an next receiver in mix, Go heavy offense,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, let's have been Cooper de g I can't believe

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Speaker 3: we got him at twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great, all right.

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Speaker 3: Picture rolling off the border. We're back up again. The

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Speaker 3: Cardinals want to make another trade with us, all right.

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Speaker 3: They're offering fifty six and eighty one for fifty one

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Speaker 3: and one nineteen. Maybe you got the Falcons offering seventy

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Speaker 3: four and next year second for fifty one and one

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Speaker 2: I don't like I'd be world curious what O lineman?

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Speaker 3: So here's here's who's who's to available. Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: I would be very interested in Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh Luke ruke arohro. I think I'd take Robinson

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Speaker 3: I would yeah, uh inis Rake Strawn. We're done with

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Speaker 3: corn We're done with corners. Malachai Corley is there.

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Speaker 2: Not bad?

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Speaker 3: That's just from the guys that I could hear. I'm

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Speaker 3: rejecting these things. We're making this pick. Yeah, we got

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Speaker 3: plenty of picks here. I think you just take Darius

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Speaker 3: Robinson's a gift.

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Speaker 2: It's a gift. I mean, the offense needs a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting younger on defense, two studs. We basically

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Speaker 3: got essentially two first round type.

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Speaker 2: Guys, highly versatile.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I just take a look here,

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Speaker 3: See who else is there? Nothing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody that like jumps out of me. He says,

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Speaker 2: I gotta we gotta take them, and we have.

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Speaker 3: Another pick coming up. Yeah, all right, Darius Robinson, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Got like receivers in no line though, have to now

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Speaker 2: take massive present. The Bengals are offering us a trade here.

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Speaker 3: We're not talking that angles rejected. The Texans want to

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Speaker 3: give us eighty six for sixty They want to give

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Speaker 3: us eighty six and next year's third round pick for

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Speaker 3: sixty six, and that Washington seventh, that Washington in seventh, everybody,

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Speaker 3: because they think is gonna stink. Yeah, we're rejecting.

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Speaker 2: So a roor Hero is still there.

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Speaker 3: But we took a defensive one. H Jatavian Sanders. You

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Speaker 3: got Chris Jenkins, Peyton Wilson, Jonathan Brooks, Cedric Gray, Roman

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Speaker 3: Wilson is still there.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, Okay, I was opening a name like that was.

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Speaker 3: Still Brandon Dorius, Kayln Carson Van Pran, Ricky Pearsall is

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Speaker 3: still there as well, Marshawn Neeland, Jaylen McMillan.

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Speaker 2: I wish we had no lineman on the board, but

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Speaker 2: I think rosen Garten is still there. I think Wilson

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would too.

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Speaker 2: I think Wilson's jumping off the page. Yeah, the Pierce

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's explosive. Yeah, yeah, Roman Wilson is the pick.

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Speaker 3: We got another pick coming up here again at eighty four.

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Speaker 2: Now this might be that mid round, center range or

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Speaker 2: something away on those lines.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Buffalo is calling. They're offering us for eighty four,

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Speaker 3: one sevent in next year's third round pick. That's not enough.

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Speaker 2: That's just a long way to go.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to reject that. When Philadelphia wants to give

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Speaker 3: four pick eighty four and wash that Washington seven, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mean, I don't know what's on the boarding.

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Speaker 3: A yeah, that was our pick to begin with. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm rejecting that Okay, eighty four the top players available.

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Speaker 3: Jatavian Sanders is still there. That's kind of what we

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Speaker 3: was talking about with that tight end. Peyton Wilson is

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Speaker 3: still there.

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Speaker 2: Where would you have to get to take Sanders. I've

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Speaker 2: never even considered him for the Steelers until ten seconds time.

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Speaker 3: They still wouldn't. I just don't have that kind of

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Speaker 2: I don't love them either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sojatavian Sanders there, Peyton Wilson, Bo Brady uh, Brandon Dorius,

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Speaker 3: Braylan Allen, Javon Bullard, Travan Wallace, Blake corm Roger Rosengarten

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Speaker 2: No, that's I'm thinking about that.

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Speaker 3: I think about that now. That's the name of Yale

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Speaker 2: I think one of those two is there.

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Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler, Blake Fisher is still there. What's one of

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Speaker 2: You like?

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Speaker 3: Fisher to me is interesting. Fisher might plug and play.

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Speaker 2: Guy considering how they're constructed. Now, I would love to

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Speaker 2: you're a left tackle. Yeah, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Don't know that you can do that with Rosengarden. I

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Speaker 3: think he needs to get strong. He's athletic, and I

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Speaker 3: think he's got some upside. But I don't know that

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Speaker 3: you can make that move now with with Roger.

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Speaker 2: Rose, Like, if you draft the Yale kid, you can't

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Speaker 2: say that, right, you can't call Broderick up be like

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Speaker 2: you're a left tackle now, forget about it. So I

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Speaker 2: think Fisher has more value to the Steelers if you're

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Speaker 2: pretty confident that he could be a starter day one.

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Speaker 2: And I mean he's not gonna be perfect, right, but

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Speaker 2: that's a solid pick. Let's do it. Yeah Fisher, Yeah, Fisher.

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Speaker 2: I was happy those three were all still there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Him in most years.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are second. That's a great point. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're back up again here. Now I'm a

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Speaker 2: lot more comfortable with our team building.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we're up here at ninety eight. Peyton Wilson

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Speaker 3: is still there. I mean, maybe you do it. That's tempting,

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Speaker 3: that's really tempting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't know what his injury is gonna

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Speaker 2: Story linebacker. Yeah, he might play, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean Wilson's got some Hulcom like traits too. That

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Speaker 3: might be faster.

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Speaker 2: I think it's faster. Yeah, that should be in the mix.

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Speaker 3: Braylan Allen, Travan Wallace, Kaylen Bullock, h Yale offensive tackle

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Speaker 3: still there, Dwayne Carter, Dominic Pooney, Dadrian Taylor Demerson also

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Speaker 2: Yeah, safety, I sent the gene cancels him.

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Speaker 3: Now we're done with that.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Jermaine Burton is there, Kate Stover is there.

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Speaker 2: Burton is a really good player. Yeah, he's got some

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Speaker 2: off the field stuff, and I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's mine or major. Getting him

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Speaker 3: Massan Smith is there. We already took ye Uh, Tyron Hopper,

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Speaker 3: Kaylin King, Michael.

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Speaker 2: Pratt, a couple of names of jump.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, right now, looking at this, Wilson's like

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Speaker 3: a this is this is like what we get for

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Speaker 3: the trade down right.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the cherry on top, you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean that's the extras.

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Speaker 3: Just like he's ranked so much higher than what than

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Speaker 3: than this pick.

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Speaker 2: Let me throw two other names at you, though, because

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Speaker 2: I had three names on tip of my tongue, and

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Speaker 2: he was the first one. And he's the most obvious

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Speaker 2: because he is best player available and you're not gold

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Speaker 2: at linebacker. It's not.

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Speaker 3: At the very least, he's going to be a stud

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Speaker 3: for you. On specialty.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to beat out Hamm and Lambert.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how much special teams changes now because of

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Speaker 3: the kickoff rules. There's going to be more kickoffs, and

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Speaker 3: as we talked about last week, I think you're going

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Speaker 3: to use more big body guys on.

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Speaker 2: Tight ends and maybe even an other lineman or like

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Speaker 2: I mean because he can run and he's run two

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Speaker 2: eighty five. You know. Here my other two names though,

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Speaker 2: and they're redundant, but there're positions in need, and that's Burton, Okay,

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Speaker 2: who we we even talked a lot about. But there's

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Speaker 2: some people extremely high on him, and I see why.

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Speaker 2: Or the YEO offensive tackle and just red shirt or

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Speaker 2: do whatever, you know, see what happens because those positions

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Speaker 2: don't grow on trees and we're light there. You know,

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Speaker 2: drafting two tackles is crazy talk, I get it.

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Speaker 3: But I center that we want to make sure that

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Speaker 3: we get here.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can at least bring it up. When's our

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Speaker 2: next pick? How long do we wait?

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Speaker 3: We got to go to one nineteen. We're ninety eight now,

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Speaker 3: so there's twenty one more picks.

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Speaker 2: I doubt three centers fall, but we should see who's

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 3: Mason McCormick.

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Speaker 2: They're calling him a some of them. More and more

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Speaker 2: people are calling him a center.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he hasn't done it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bolimmer, okay, nor z Ed, that's basically it.

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Speaker 2: I mean I bet one of those three he makes it.

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Speaker 2: Twenty more picks?

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Speaker 3: Do we want to bet our lives on it?

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Speaker 2: Though? Yep? How do we do? Okay? But you can

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Speaker 2: you can convince me on Will Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I think you just take Wilson.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: I mean I just think that that the value is

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Speaker 3: too great to pass on that guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, defense could be really, really good and Robinson.

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Speaker 3: And Will defense got really fast. Yeah, and he may

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Speaker 3: not even play this year. I mean, but he'll be

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Speaker 3: your special team's ace.

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Speaker 2: And then you're looking for a value receiver and free

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Speaker 2: agency or a center or you know, right tackle that

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Speaker 2: can hold down the fort or you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: those people, you can get them, but you're you're like

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Speaker 2: done on defense. Yeah, and your special team's took a

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Speaker 2: big jump too. I wonder if the Gean would be

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Speaker 2: your kick off No, no, they signed Patterson, but they would

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back up here again. Now we only

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Speaker 3: have one pick left. That's at one seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: This one and one more. Yeah, okay, so if we're

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Speaker 2: going to go center, we probably got to do it here.

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Speaker 2: And they're McCormick, Limmer nor is that are all there?

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Speaker 2: I like Limber the best of those guys. I think

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Speaker 2: I do too, but I'm really warming up the nors

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Speaker 2: ad more and more that I wouldn't hesitate at all,

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Speaker 2: But Limmer's fine. They would be neck and neck for me.

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Speaker 2: All right, but Limmer's a pick. Cool boom.

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Speaker 3: And now we gotta get down the one seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: There may be somebody here another take us a slop

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Speaker 3: receiver or something. We got a trade offer. The Rams

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Speaker 3: want to give us one ninety six two nine for

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Speaker 3: one seventy eight, and that twenty twenty five Washington pick

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Speaker 3: we're going to reach out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that. I don't know what that gets us,

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Speaker 2: all right, So I don't think there's like two positions

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Speaker 2: we really need.

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Speaker 3: Looking at the wide receivers, you got Chakawan Jackson out

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Speaker 3: of tu Lane, got a lot of balls at too lane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not bad.

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Speaker 3: Cornelius Johnson from Michigan, another Michigan receiver.

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Speaker 2: They could room together, they'd be buddies.

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Speaker 3: Yah, Jordan Whittington out of Texas, Ryan Flourney out of

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Speaker 3: and M Josh Cephas at a UT say, Isaiah Williams

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Speaker 2: Monroe. I don't know a ton about all those guys,

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Speaker 2: but some I do, And I think Bob Means is

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Speaker 3: Chakawan Jackson is a pure slot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. But do we think Wilson's going to be

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Speaker 2: outside and inside?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he can do that.

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Speaker 2: Watkins is a slot, Yeah, Austin can do a slot. Stuff.

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Speaker 2: Who's the best alignment on the board any position?

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Speaker 3: If it is a pure guard, best player regardless of

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Speaker 3: position is Immantie Bailey. The running back at the TCU.

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Speaker 3: Jaylen Carlos is there, Curtis Jacobs, Evan Williams, Eric All

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Speaker 3: Eric All is interesting, Jarvis Brownlee.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting too. Christian Boyd out of Northern Iowa.

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Speaker 3: I like him.

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Speaker 2: Tom We have room for some of these guys.

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Speaker 3: Tommy Eikenberg, Xavier Thomas edge to Clemson. We could use that.

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Speaker 2: It's not terrible. We could use an edge I've got.

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Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of good things about him lately.

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Speaker 2: You could go to the drawing board on him. Isaac Guardo,

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Speaker 2: the er groundo, I should say, from Louisville. I think

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Speaker 2: you take the edge.

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Speaker 3: Josh Proctor, Tyrone, Tracy Christian Jones is still there.

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Speaker 2: Mhmm. That's not bad either. By the way, I love

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Speaker 2: Tracy from Purdue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really catches the ball super He's a.

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Speaker 2: Receiver turned running back. It's a weird combination, but he's good.

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Speaker 2: I would consider Clemson edge Texas tackle. There's some other

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Speaker 2: fit him on the team. Right Boyd and running back

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Speaker 2: from Purdue.

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Speaker 3: Caden Wallace, the offensive tackle out of Penn State is

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Speaker 3: still there, and you can take another offensive tackle what

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Speaker 3: do you think about Eric call I don't mind that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean's another one. I don't know the medicals,

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Speaker 2: but right, I mean I hope him and Wilson don't

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Speaker 2: get the camp and neither one could play, you know, but.

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Speaker 3: That Ti Braeman's still there too.

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Speaker 2: I think i'd take all over Raymond, but they're both

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Speaker 2: sort of interesting.

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Speaker 3: McLaughlin out of Arizona's another guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people like him. Yeah, anyone of those names jump

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Speaker 2: of names I like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's that's man. That's tough. I think

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Speaker 3: you go for the edge just because I think he's

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Speaker 3: he's gonna make your team.

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Speaker 2: You make your special teams even stronger.

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Speaker 3: I think he kind of stands out there six four,

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Speaker 3: so he's big enough to.

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Speaker 2: Side Steelers type. Yeah, he's not. He's a lot different

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Speaker 2: than Robinson.

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Speaker 3: And again, you know, play special teams for you and.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

440
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with defense heavier than I thought. But

441
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,360
Speaker 2: the defense has got a real infusion.

442
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Speaker 3: You get young, yeah, get younger, which it needs to

443
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 3: do with Yeah, and cheap.

444
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,880
Speaker 2: And right, yeah, exactly, I mean I like Golden a lot,

445
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 2: and I'd be very interested in bringing them back. But

446
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 2: you saved three million on the cap by this pick, right,

447
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I mean there's there's other

448
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 2: ways looking. Maybe you have to go get a center now,

449
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 2: because yeah, maybe that goes to Connor Williams who knows right,

450
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: or that's an extension will run your own guys.

451
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,719
Speaker 3: So we ended up taking well, we still ended up

452
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 3: four defense and three offense, so it wasn't as lopsided

453
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 3: as what you might think.

454
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 2: But it was early. We got some value on defense.

455
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we got Cooper dejen at twenty seven after

456
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 3: the trade down, lo Darius Robinson at fifty one.

457
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,719
Speaker 2: Pure value, go hang out with Cam Hayward.

458
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 3: Roman Wilson at sixty six. Good pick we got out

459
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 3: of that trade down.

460
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Speaker 2: They seem to be quite interested. Blake Fisher at eighty four.

461
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's your right tackle from day one, but that's

462
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: asking a lot, but he seems as capable as any

463
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 2: third round tackle would be.

464
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson at ninety eight, that's the great pure value again, yeah,

465
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Speaker 3: Bolimmer at one nineteen, hopefully he's in the mix. Yeah,

466
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 3: and then Xavier Thomas at one seventy eight the edge

467
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Speaker 3: out of Clemson, and we also have Arizona's twenty twenty

468
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Speaker 3: five fourth round time.

469
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Speaker 2: I forgot about that. Okay, we gave up something.

470
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Speaker 3: If we give up next year, fit one of our

471
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Speaker 3: fifth picks, fifth round picks next year, we two to

472
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: move up the gap. Now we have two fourth round

473
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Speaker 3: picks instead, which you like that?

474
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: Oh I love picking up that extra nickel on this. Yeah, extrame,

475
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: especially starting day three off, like right right right after

476
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: everything resets, after everybody talks about the day two reset,

477
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: well day three resets as well, and there's still value there.

478
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean you might the next year's draft might be

479
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: ridiculously deep from all the COVID kids.

480
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, coming out.

481
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 2: That's true too. And heck, I mean day after the

482
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: draft it won't be t Higgins. But you could trade

483
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Speaker 2: that fourth round pick for a receiver or something, you

484
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like or some kind.

485
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: Of or maybe do that for you your center.

486
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, turn it into a guy that's

487
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 2: making money that's a legit starter at one of your positions. Maybe, Yeah,

488
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: so that are always put more money in the bank.

489
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Speaker 3: I don't mind that draft.

490
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 2: I don't either, it's an odd one for us. Yeah,

491
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: but it's exciting about the defense. I mean that defense

492
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: could be really really good, really good, universatile and fast

493
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: and young, and you know no, I like that. Yeah.

494
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt Eric ed Holmes

502
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Speaker 3: put together his mock draft two point zero on NFL

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Speaker 3: dot com. So let's take a look at what he

504
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Speaker 3: has here. See how things break down for him. He's

505
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Speaker 3: got the Bears taking Caleb Williams.

506
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Speaker 2: Shocker, Yeah, surprise there.

507
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: This next pick, though, is a surprise. He has Washington

508
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 3: taking JJ McCartney McCarthy.

509
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: I think the buzz is real. I'm not saying he's

510
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: worth it. I'm just saying that I don't think.

511
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Speaker 3: That I actually had the same thing in our mark.

512
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Speaker 2: Did you really? I did? Wow?

513
00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: Hearing some stuff.

514
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: No, I know, people love them, I get it. That's fine, Okay.

515
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: New England then takes Jade and Daniels at three.

516
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: Interesting.

517
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: See, I think if that, if that were the case

518
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 3: of I, if I'm New England, then I do stay

519
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Speaker 3: stick and take the pick.

520
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm a really big Drake May believer. Although somebody's tape

521
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: is rough this year.

522
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: Minnesota then trades up with Arizona and takes May.

523
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: That's May, okay, more than a fifty chance the first

524
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 2: four picks or quarterbacks.

525
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Speaker 3: I think it's leaning that they're starting to head that way.

526
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I really think it'll be four out of five. Yeah,

527
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: if the cart or if the Chargers are in the mix,

528
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Speaker 2: I don't think they'll stay.

529
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: The Chargers then stay right where they're at and take

530
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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 2: Which, as much as you might love Lineman, you just

532
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: do that.

533
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: You gotta do that.

534
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 2: Just take them.

535
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: You know, justin Herbert has to have somebody to somebody

536
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 3: if they if they didn't do that, if they traded

537
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Speaker 3: out of that spot and then didn't get a receiver.

538
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Speaker 3: If I'm justin Herbert, I go to Harball right out

539
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: and punch him in the face.

540
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: What are we doing here because he's from Ohio state.

541
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Speaker 2: He didn't take it. What say your coach? So I

542
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: know some people's side note. I know some people are

543
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: concerned about the Steelers wide receiver room. As am I

544
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: on April first. There's three or four around the league though,

545
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: that are barren, and this is one of them. I mean,

546
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 2: there's like nothing in LA right now. At six, the

547
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: Giants in take Malik Neighbors. Theirs isn't much better either.

548
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: It's like one Del Robinson and you know it's seven.

549
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: Tennessee takes Jo alt Rise there. Yeah, the Cardinals trade

550
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: up with the Falcons to take Roalmadunzie. That's see, that's

551
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: great work by the Cardinals. Yeah. Yeah, you got a

552
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Speaker 2: nice chunk for a quarterback that you probably I know

553
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: he's on including every every trade. But if you got

554
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: out of there and somebody trade up for a quarterback,

555
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: you got a nice ransom for it. Yeah, and you

556
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 2: still maybe got the second best receiver in the draft, right.

557
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Speaker 2: I think at Doomsay goes top five eight percent of

558
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: the drafts. Yeah, awesome. At nine and their receiver room stinks.

559
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah that's bad, Yeah, real bad.

560
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Speaker 3: At nine, the Bears take to your adverse.

561
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Speaker 2: I don't like where they pick. I don't want to

562
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: be the team that takes that first edge. I mean

563
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: I would take a doomsday if I were them.

564
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's very much what Houston did last year.

565
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 3: You take the top quarterback and you get the top

566
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Speaker 3: what they think is the top edge.

567
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be entertaining trade offers differences.

568
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: They already have Monto Montez sweat there.

569
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I just don't think those edges are as

570
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: good as Will Anderson. Yeah, and I didn't love Will Anderson.

571
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 3: They could get Robinson or Robin instead of bat They

572
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 3: don't need Batman. They got Batman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know, I think nine's it gets a

574
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Speaker 2: little sticky if those were the first eight off the board.

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Speaker 3: Uh. At ten, the Jets take brock Bowers.

576
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: Getting pretty chocky. Yeah, I see it.

577
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: At eleven the Falcons after trading down, you take Dallas Turner,

578
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Speaker 3: who they may have taken at eight to be like

579
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Speaker 3: that better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you got a little something and Dallas

581
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: Turner okay, I mean their pastor has been a problem

582
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: for a long time.

583
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Speaker 3: At twelve, Denver takes bo Nicks. That one's very They're

584
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Speaker 3: they're like three picks. It's like all to ten see

585
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: Bowers of the Jets and Bonnicks as Williams.

586
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: They're starting to see him everywhere.

587
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 3: At thirteen, the Raiders take to Lasi Fluagam.

588
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: I could see the Raiders hurting the Steelers with that pick,

589
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: whether it's Latham or Flaga or you know, I could

590
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: see the Steeler fans going, ah, would they take panics there?

591
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that's bonkers.

592
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: I don't think it is either. You don't they don't

593
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: have a quarterback.

594
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: They don't have a quarterback. I don't think that's crazy.

595
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: And if you wait and try to get one on

596
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: day two, somebody might move ahead of you and you

597
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: won't have a quarterback.

598
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Speaker 2: All right, I think that's not insane, especially if Nextico

599
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: is right ahead of them.

600
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to a team in your division, like.

601
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you're trying to keep you up with

602
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 2: Herbert and my home in another first round, you know, quarterback, rookie,

603
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: you gotta do something. They might be as desperate as

604
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: any team out there. Yeah, considering where they pick and

605
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: all those things.

606
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not They're not in a position where

607
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 3: they can just punt on the season you're in, you're

608
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: in Vegas. You want to try to sell tickets in Vegas,

609
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: not to other teams coming in to play you.

610
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: You would them in Denver might be fighting for first

611
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: pick of the draft type stuff. Yeah, I mean they're

612
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: in bad shape right now.

613
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: The Saints then at fourteen take Forshanu.

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00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: I would fit in there. They got much sure exactly

615
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: how their row line would shape out, but he'd fit

616
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: in someone.

617
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: Well. Ryan Ramsack's in trouble.

618
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Penning has been about.

619
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 3: Penning hasn't worked out. That doesn't mean he still won't.

620
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean he's right leg earlier. Yeah, to be concerned though.

621
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: At fifteen, the colt steak Quinya Mitchell.

622
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: It's their type of pick. Yeah, hight weight, sped gut.

623
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: At sixteen, the Seahawks take Troy Fatanu.

624
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's getting chalky. It just adds up so much.

625
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: I mean, Washington's O coordinator is now theirs be a

626
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: guard for them, and like great, I mean as good

627
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: as he could be a tackle, he maybe better at guard.

628
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeh know. Yeah, that's a nice pick.

629
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: At seventeen, the Jaguars take Terry and Arnold.

630
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: Okay, they could go a lot of directions.

631
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, at eighteen the Bengals take Byron Murphy. That just

632
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: makes that's where they should that's where they should go

633
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: at this point.

634
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: I mean i'd even consider Newton. But I mean I

635
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: think one of the d tackles there is fills their

636
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: biggest need. I wonder if they consider Thomas and trade

637
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: Higgins the next day, maybe you know what I mean,

638
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: just swap those guys out, similar styles.

639
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 3: And still Higgins.

640
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they'll draft the receiver pretty high though.

641
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: At nineteen the Cowboys trade up at the Rams and

642
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 3: take Brian Thomas.

643
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: H there are lines, it's a mess. Yeah, I wouldn't

644
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: be comfortab they don't have a lot of picks. No,

645
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be real comfortable with that. They need running back,

646
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: they need line. I mean, their receivers aren't perfect. But yeah,

647
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's situation we've I mean that's a whole different conversation.

648
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: But his situation is a little bizarre, and the way

649
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: they handled it at the owner's meetings wasn't like, oh,

650
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna get this done no matter what. With Dak.

651
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he has so much power they can't franchise him, right,

652
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: He can just sit back and wait for Tua and

653
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: these other dudes to sign, and he know he's gonna

654
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: come in with Kirk Cousins. Plus, maybe they take Pennick.

655
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: And they still have to get there. I mean, that's

656
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: why they make this move because they better win this

657
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: year and ceedee. Lamb's contract is up, Parson's contract is up.

658
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: Like the Cowboys are in a rough situation here.

659
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have spent no money in free agency.

660
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: If Dak wants to become a free agent, he caneh

661
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: which that's rare. And do you know what he would

662
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: make if Cousins made what he did. I'd love to

663
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: be a free agent if I'm Dak Prescott. Yeah, it's

664
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: not a bad spot to be in. Maybe they take Pennix,

665
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

666
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: At twenty, then the Steelers take Jackson Powers Johnson.

667
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean kind of boring. You know we've talked,

668
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: We've been down that road a thousand times.

669
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: I can't I can't see them doing that though. When

670
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: the Dolphins at twenty one take jac Latham, I can't eat.

671
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm taking Latham over Jackson Powers Johnson all day long.

672
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: We'd prbably fight on this, but I would take Mems

673
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: over JPJ two just because of positional value. Yeah. Yeah,

674
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take Guiting over him.

675
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: But Latham is lath run the potany He's my number

676
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 3: two tackle.

677
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I think the Chargers might take

678
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: him at five. Yeah, maybe not in this scenario, right

679
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: get maybe the number one player in the draft.

680
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: But I'd take Latham in a heartbeat at twenty.

681
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. They wouldn't even close between him and

682
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: Powers Johns in that situation, this positions they play.

683
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: At twenty two. Well, I just said the Dolphins take

684
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: at twenty one Latham. At twenty two, the Eagles take

685
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: Nate Wiggins.

686
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: That would fit. I think that's where I mocked them too.

687
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: At twenty yeah, the Cardinals, with their pick they also

688
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: acquired from the Vikings, take Cooper dejen right.

689
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

690
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: At twenty four, the Rams, after trading back, take Lay two.

691
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: Oh I can screams. That screams right. In fact, I

692
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: think that's why I mocked to them.

693
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 2: Really Yeah, that's a good pit. I love that fit. Uh.

694
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: At twenty five, the Packers take Graham Barton.

695
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: He'll play somewhere on that line. Yeah, he looks like

696
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: a Packer. Two. I was I think the Jeane and

697
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: Barton look like Packers just because they're versatile.

698
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. At twenty six, the Buccaneers take Chop Robinson.

699
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean Jack Barrett's basically done. They're looking for

700
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: another edge. Yeah, twenty seven high picks on d Lineman.

701
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: At twenty seven, the Commanders come up in a trade

702
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: with the Cardinals. With you, they have two early second

703
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: round picks to take Amarius Mems.

704
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: Wow. Nice, that's worth it for that good value? Yeah? Right,

705
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: I mean if you already drafted a quarterback, sure, and

706
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: expectations aren't for him to play right this second. They're

707
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: not coming in a lot of games this year.

708
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: At twenty eight, the Bills take a Donnie Mitchell.

709
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: I like that fit a lot. I bet he doesn't

710
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: get there. I don't know where he'll land, but I

711
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: just think he's too trait seed to fall that far.

712
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: Really, if I'm the Cowboys and I and I want

713
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: to receive her, I think I'd hang cut and just

714
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: stick there and take a Donnie Mitchell.

715
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: I trust Thomas Moore, but the Cowboys don't have the

716
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: resources throw away. Yeah, starting to trade pick you right? Uh.

717
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: At twenty nine, the Panthers trade up with the Lions

718
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: to take Xavier Worthy.

719
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe like I like Mconkee better, and I probably

720
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: like Franklin better and a couple guys that are still

721
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: out there, But I think Worthy is gonna end up

722
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: in round one. It only takes one to love the

723
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: speed and Carolina like slashy things, you know. Yeah, put

724
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: in Nice of Deonta and you gotta you know, they

725
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: would have a receivers Eland mingo. You know.

726
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 3: At thirty the Ravens take Tyler Geiton.

727
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: That would make sense too, can develop them a little. Yeah,

728
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: they need to tackle.

729
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: Thirty one the forty nine ers take Jordan Morgan.

730
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: He fits their system well as a move guy. Yeah,

731
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: guard or tackle.

732
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can put them in either spot and be okay.

733
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 3: And then at thirty two the Chiefs take Kingsley Sue Maataia.

734
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: See I like that better than like Worthy for them. Yeah,

735
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: I would take Sue Mattia Overworthy. You always be worthy

736
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: of On the Chiefs East Tyreek Hill, they need to tackle,

737
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: they need tackles.

738
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can get received vers later in the draft.

739
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: And Marky's brown and you know their pass catchers aren't bad.

740
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: Rice and Brown and Kelsey, although Rice is he might

741
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: be a little bit of trouble right now. In a

742
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: little bit of trouble. Yeah, this is also the time

743
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: of year where guys get in trouble. If you didn't

744
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: see that there, he's they're looking at him in a

745
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: hit and run situation in Dallas. That there's video of him.

746
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: Walking away with with a bunch of guys walking away

747
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: from the crash.

748
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: Uh, that doesn't But.

749
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: I don't understand that you left your cars there. The

750
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: car is registered in your.

751
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: His car, his body's car. And yeah, yeah you might

752
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: not know you're on camera, but it's your car. Is

753
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: going to leave there. Yeah, that's your DNA all over.

754
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: It and it's registered to you.

755
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: And yeah yeah, not the brightest move. Yeah, maybe they aren't.

756
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: Maybe they are gonna go a receiver.

757
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: Maybe it's so would make it, but they don't.

758
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: I would take it.

759
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have a left tackle right now, and you.

760
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: Can develop and they could live with the guys they have.

761
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: Really, I mean they're overpaying Juwan Taylor.

762
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don dismiss up. I think he's still floating

763
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: out there and no one's banging on.

764
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: It's not very good.

765
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: No, he hasn't been good in Tampa either, Okay, not

766
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: about I would have ended we would have ended up

767
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: with Latham. Oh yeah for the Steelers. Yeah, been very

768
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: happy about it.

769
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

770
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: Those tackles went pretty quick.

771
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was seven tackles in the first.

772
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: Round, seem Taia and Morgan. Yeah, that's by the max.

773
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: Might be eight, it might be yeah.

774
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: Rarely Morgan to assume ai.

775
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it was a.

776
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: Eight tackle That's a quarter of the first round.

777
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

778
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: But Paint de Bardon redd and about seven wide receivers too,

779
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: and five quarter half the drafts didn't go. Yeah, half

780
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: the draft half the first round.

781
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: Was and we also had Worthy. We had six receivers, right,

782
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: at least six receivers, eight tackles, five quarterbacks. Yeah, yeah,

783
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: it's crazy draft. It's a good draft, he really is.

784
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: The first Bose rounds were good, good positions.

785
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome, But that was Eric ed Holmes second mock

786
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: that he has done.

787
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: Pretty good one. Yeah, some moves and yeah, I've.

788
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 3: Had some trades there that the trading part gets tough

789
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: when I know it does, because you just don't know,

790
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't we know the Steelers roster. I

791
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 3: don't know what exactly is going on in Green Bay.

792
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: The other thing that really to get nerdy about it

793
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: with trades is like some teams don't have a second

794
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: rounder to get up but you know, or don't have

795
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: a second round pick next year. And I'm not going

796
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: to do that research to that degree. Like we did

797
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: a mock that we're going to film tomorrow and I

798
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: just said they went from this pick to hear plus X.

799
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: You know, like there'll be something else in there and

800
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: they can work it out, but I'm not going to

801
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: do all the math to figure out that they have

802
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: enough to get there.

803
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: That's crazy, right, right, I don't even look at the chart.

804
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: No, no, no, ever, right. I don't know if.

805
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: Teams still lose that chart or not. I know fans

806
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: still last, you know.

807
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: And there's a couple of them out there now. I

808
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: think the Jimmy Johnson charts kind of shot. It's any

809
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: pay at tax for quarterbacks.

810
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you pay it, no matter what. You're going to

811
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: pay more to come up and get a quarterback, yeah,

812
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 3: regardless of what the chart says. And the chart also

813
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: doesn't tell me whether this is a deep draft or

814
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: if it's a.

815
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a third round of this year

816
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 2: worth a third round or three years ago. And right, yeah,

817
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: I think there's some something you said.

818
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: This is a fifth round pick next year. But when

819
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: we think the draft is going to be super deep,

820
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: is that worth more than the fourth round pick this

821
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: year or the fifth round pick this year? Probably?

822
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: So. I mean Deontae trade is a great example. But

823
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: I thought a big thing that came away this offseason

824
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: is teams want to move from the sixth round to

825
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: the fourth round. Yeah, you know, like, and they're gonna

826
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: put them a little more of a premium on it

827
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: than other years.

828
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

829
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can move up fifty spots in draft

830
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 2: in the late parts, that means more this year than most.

831
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

832
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: Let's get through another break.

833
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening

834
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,200
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835
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,279
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836
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,399
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837
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843
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: And Matt I had a question on social media today

844
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: on x there was a fan out there. He's asking

845
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: the Steelers haven't brought in justin Field yet to announce

846
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: right right now? They've announced the trade, but they haven't

847
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: brought him in yet to speak to the immediate Does

848
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: that mean that he's unhappy with the trade. I'm like,

849
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: you have to realize last.

850
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: Week, no one think about the logistics of it all.

851
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: So last week all the Steelers' decision makers are in Orlando,

852
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: So you're not going to do it last week or

853
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: head coach, right, everybody's down there this week. You also

854
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: have to factor in is the player in the country.

855
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: I was told he was on European vacation right, he's

856
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: Checky Chase right now exactly. So it's not like you

857
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: haven't talked to him. It's like, why destroy your vacation

858
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: you've been planning. That's taking too many thousand dollars or whatever.

859
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 3: When you get back in, we'll talk.

860
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean those kind of things are easy

861
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: to overreact to. But when you've been around the building

862
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: and you're more than me, I mean you start to realize, like, oh,

863
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: he can't come in this week because of this, or

864
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: maybe his mom say, I mean, I'm not talking about fields,

865
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: but I mean there's a lot of reasons that can

866
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: get in the way of rushing them here this second.

867
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: It's the off season. It's the off season, right, I mean,

868
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: you're not practicing tomorrow. I can promise you he has

869
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: a playbook. I promise you he's been on the phone

870
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 2: and zooms with offensive coordinator, quarterback coach, head coach, et cetera,

871
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: et cetera. Yeah, agents, you know all that stuff.

872
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: They've probably digitally sent him the playbook.

873
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: Here you go, start learning this stuff. You know, stick

874
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: your head in chapter one of you know, while.

875
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: You're sitting on the beach and you know it's your or.

876
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: Don't you know what I mean, vacation right, I mean,

877
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: do what you want to do. But yeah, he's a

878
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: super hard worker by all accounts, he's smart. You know,

879
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm not concerned one bit about that I did see

880
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: the question though, I was like, eah, I think you're

881
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: looking too much into it. The Steelers OTA schedule, Yeah,

882
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: this is when it comes out right, right, right, So

883
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: that starts May twenty first.

884
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: These are their on field activities. They'll do some other

885
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: stuff before that, the.

886
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: Rookie stuff at weightlifting, and yeah, the players will start.

887
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 3: I think that starts in mid April that the veterans

888
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: start getting together and doing stuff there. Those again, those are.

889
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: Not mandatory, they're not mandatory, right, but you can start

890
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: getting guys in the building to do stuff. We usually

891
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: broadcast from OTAs. Yeah, so that schedule will start May

892
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: twenty first.

893
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: They'll go Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, those first couple of weeks, uh,

894
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: and then the final week of that June third to

895
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: the sixth Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then mandatory mini camp.

896
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: The mandatory, right is Tuesday, June eleventh, Wednesday June twelfth,

897
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: and Thursday, June thirteenth.

898
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: Not that far away. It's not that far away, right.

899
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: We've see these guys live, including the rookies and Fields

900
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: and Wilson and all those guys of course.

901
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: That I mentioned that phase one. In Phase two, those

902
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 3: start before phase that's Phase three that we just mentioned.

903
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: They're the OTAs. That's when the coaches can actually be

904
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: on the field with the.

905
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Players football stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's not full contact, but

906
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: right right, yeah.

907
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: So Phase one consists of the first two weeks of

908
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: the program with activities limited to meetings, strength and conditioning,

909
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: and physical rehab only.

910
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: That's the one that starts in a couple of weeks

911
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: and people start and won't be everyone in attendance, right.

912
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: Phase two considered consists of the next three weeks that's

913
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: on field workouts may include individual group instructions in jill

914
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: and drills as well if perfect play drills and drills

915
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: and plays with offensive players lining up across from offensive

916
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: players and defensive players lining up across from defensive players

917
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: conducted any walk through pace. So if you see one

918
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: on one, yeah, if you see a practice, the start

919
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: of a practice where the play they come out, the

920
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: offensive guys, you'll see the beanies on their heads. The

921
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: defensive guys same thing. They'll line up across from each

922
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: other and they'll just go through the place.

923
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and trying to get to his shoulder on this block.

924
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: And but it's not full speed at allah. Yeah, their

925
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: pads may collide, but it's not all you know, they're

926
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: just kind of stepping into each other. Yeah. Yeah.

927
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: Uh, no live contact or team offense versus team defense

928
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: drills are permitted during that period.

929
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: They're not competitive. Yeah, they're not competitive.

930
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: That's basically what's happening during the draft period.

931
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

932
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 3: Then you'll have your rookie mini camp where those guys

933
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 3: will get acclimated to all that stuff and do some

934
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 3: similar things where they'll go walk throughs and see.

935
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: They enroll in kindergarten. Yeah, this is how.

936
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: We line up. This is what we do the first

937
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: day of practice.

938
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: I mean even things like this is how you practice

939
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: as a Pittsburgh Steeler. You know, we do not beat

940
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: the crap out of each other, but we also want

941
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: to get the most out of it, and like we

942
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: get everyone on the same page. And this is where

943
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 2: we go to meetings. This is where the cafteria is park,

944
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: this is I mean, it's kindergarten. Yeah.

945
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: That phase three of this is when those full otaight schedules,

946
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: that's when that starts. So that's when your offense, defense,

947
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: and your rookies are all brought together.

948
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: They are on the stew together and yeah, see how

949
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: that starts to look. So you have some clue before

950
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: training camp what this team looks like. Or man, we

951
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: drafted this tackle in the third round, the Notre Dame kid,

952
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: you know, we thought he might have a chance to start.

953
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a clue. We find somebody get into.

954
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: The situation, like it was with Marquise Pounce when they

955
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: got into OTAs and they're like, oh, he's.

956
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: The best He's the best center on the roster. They

957
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: might be our best offensive lineman.

958
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: Period.

959
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: That happened. Yeah, I mean when as a rookie, it

960
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: was like we got this Flynn character who's making a

961
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: good buck. But man, this rookie is everything we put

962
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: on his plate he digests immediately.

963
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Because of that, that Phase three consists of it's

964
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: a four week program. Teams may conduct a total of

965
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: ten days organized. Uh, no live contact is permitted, but

966
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: you can do seven on seven, nine on seven, and

967
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 3: eleven on eleven drills.

968
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you're getting skelting stuff and you're getting passing

969
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: concepts and route concepts and you have a pretty good

970
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: idea what the team's starting to look like. Yeah, and

971
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: then mini camp is it's a carryover of those OTA sessions.

972
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: They're still not you still can't have contact and all

973
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: those things. But everybody has to be there yeah yeah, yeah,

974
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: and they leave the field sweaty and they get a workout. Yeah,

975
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: and then you know it's not just walking around. Yeah.

976
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean that's that's what the Steelers have

977
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: coming up here.

978
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: So all thirty two teams announced their dates. Yeah, that's

979
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: all been set.

980
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: And that that Phase ones thing will start here. I

981
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: believe it starts a second week of April.

982
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: Wow. So I mean there's it's the beginning of the

983
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: league year. Yeah, I mean it's things are starting to happen,

984
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 2: absolutely interesting.

985
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always always fun.

986
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: And maybe Fields is there for that, you know what

987
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: I mean.

988
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 3: I would think he wouldn't want to be there for that.

989
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: I would think Russell Wilson, I mean, your you guys

990
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: probably should be there be there for this.

991
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: No, maybe not. You don't hold them against them if

992
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: it's not. I mean, who knows what they're up to.

993
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: They're probably all these guys are private quarterback coaches, do

994
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: ye right, And it's not like they're doing nothing.

995
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 3: I always love when people well so and so, wasn't

996
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: it the OTA session because.

997
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: He's getting Some of them don't go because it's not

998
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: enough work for them. You know who never went to

999
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: these things, like one year Troy Never Troy.

1000
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: He Bill Cower. I believe it was either Bill or Mike.

1001
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: I can't remember now. I might have been Mike asked

1002
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: him to come one time. Hey, we need you to

1003
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: come in this year. We get a bunch of new

1004
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: guys here.

1005
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

1006
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: Other than that, he just worked out on his own.

1007
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean a lot of these guys are so

1008
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: specialized they become better football players doing their own thing,

1009
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: working on They're not working on what all the other

1010
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: safeties are working on. They're working on one thing that

1011
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: they need to improve, or they know their body better

1012
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: or whatever. I mean, there's a lot of different reasons.

1013
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Ben was would come and go at

1014
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 3: these things. You know, he didn't need to be, especially

1015
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: if when you had young quarterbacks who were learning this,

1016
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: like like I know the system.

1017
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: It's not like it's let Landry Jones do his thing

1018
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah, a mid round pick that's a later

1019
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: pick or whatever. Yeah, but I.

1020
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: Would think this year, with so much turnover on the roster,

1021
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 3: particularly at the quarterback position. A. Your receivers would want

1022
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: to be there, you would think, and B those quarterbacks

1023
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: would most certainly want to be there for this stuff.

1024
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: I would think you would think so. But again I

1025
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: would not kill them if they're not. But probably more

1026
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: so than most years, those type of guys should be there. Yeah,

1027
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: like this, Cam Hayward need to be there, doesn't need

1028
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: to be.

1029
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: But from the way Mike Tomlin was talking at the

1030
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: at the meetings last week, I don't expect to see

1031
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: Cam Hayward take the field until training camp, and even

1032
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: then I would expect him to get the veteran treatment

1033
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: where he may do one day on and half day

1034
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: the next day, and then the third day you take

1035
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: the day off.

1036
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he may play ten preseason snaps.

1037
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I'd play him at all

1038
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: in the preseason.

1039
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, TJ might be not too far off.

1040
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you got some guys on that defense

1041
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: that are very important that you played without them last

1042
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: year and you survived.

1043
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: Especially if you draft another D lineman, I don't want.

1044
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: To do it again. Yeah, I mean I want them there.

1045
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: Oh. Yeah, you know, because he has a presence and

1046
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: he's important.

1047
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: The young guys can bounce stuff off of him.

1048
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't need to see him practice a

1049
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: whole lot. No, as much as he wants or less.

1050
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: Well, I think as much as he wants, he would

1051
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: be out there a lot. Yeah, I think you have

1052
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: to say whoa rather than sick them.

1053
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: Then, Yeah, we need you. This is a marathon. We

1054
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: got seventeen games now hopefully playoffs. We need you from

1055
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: start to finish as much as humanly possible.

1056
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think he's just a big part

1057
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: of what this team wants to do, and he's too important.

1058
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 3: And he played basically on one leg last year.

1059
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: He didn't have a great year for his standards, but

1060
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: he also shouldn't have been out there for much of

1061
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: it too.

1062
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: Oh, just while we're sitting here, I called up a

1063
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: thirty third team mock draft. Steelers take it twenty to

1064
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: Leasy Fuaga.

1065
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: I think would be both you really had.

1066
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 3: I think I think they would sprint to the podium

1067
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: for this.

1068
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think him and Latham. To me,

1069
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: you're pretty close to no brainers, plug and play right

1070
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: tackle improve in a lot of ways.

1071
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Graham Barton was the next pick. Fatano goes to

1072
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: the Cowboys at twenty four. Oh my god, I feel Yeah,

1073
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 3: the offensive tackle was slipping a little bit there, sliding.

1074
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 3: I jump all over that.

1075
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: No, I would too, No, that'd be a great fits

1076
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: right playing temperament.

1077
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: He is a temperament, all right. Yeah, so he is nasty.

1078
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: I clicked on it. I didn't read it heavily. But

1079
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: the Pro Football Focus does their superlatives for each position,

1080
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: and they did their They did offensive tackles today and

1081
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 2: best zone blocking tackle was for Wagga.

1082
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 3: Oh he moves like a yeah. I mean he's built

1083
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: like a tight end.

1084
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and but he's I think they're gonna do play

1085
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: more zone tight end. Ye. Nastiness and six to six

1086
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: and yeah, no he fits in really really well.

1087
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. And again I you know, for the Steelers and

1088
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: you still I mean, there are so many of these

1089
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: guys with the Polynesian back grounds. They've got a bunch

1090
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: of them already, Like it's a.

1091
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Very comfortable environment. Yeah.

1092
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: To get a guy like that to add to that

1093
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 3: environment when you've already got five.

1094
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: Or six Polynesians might be a foundational, twelve year starter

1095
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: type guy for you.

1096
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: Right. I had that conversation with Jaylen Mooarren last off

1097
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: season because he's got he's part Polynesian. I didn't know, okay,

1098
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: and you know he's remember.

1099
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: The conversation, Yeah, is great talking about the police.

1100
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: But there's there's definitely something to that.

1101
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely, if you can be more comfortable in any environment,

1102
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: that's a great way to add, you know, find your

1103
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 2: way in the league.

1104
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it would be a great fit here. Yeah.

1105
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: And you know I experienced Samalo is a kind of

1106
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: the leader of that group.

1107
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: That Ko is gonna be back. That's on something we've

1108
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: brought up very often. But he's under contract again. Yeah,

1109
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: so that's a nice pickup too.

1110
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: So I mean they've they've definitely got some Polynesian the

1111
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: guys that are going to be on there going to

1112
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: be on the roster, both her bigs and you know, I.

1113
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: Don't know about baseball, but like so many generation after

1114
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,479
Speaker 2: Clementy from that area of the country were Pirate fans. Yeah,

1115
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 2: and I think Troy probably had a similar Oh.

1116
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Junior say Troy, those are the guys that.

1117
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: You know, those groundbreaking Hall of Fame you know, I'm

1118
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: sure people became Steeler fans because of that. Yeah.

1119
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I think if you can add

1120
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 3: those to me, of the guys that they could get.

1121
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: Latham and flu Waga are pretty just stamp of approval types.

1122
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just you just sprint that. You don't even

1123
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: think there could be twenty teams on the flat. They

1124
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 3: could be offered next year's first round pitch. I'm not talking.

1125
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: I'm taking this.

1126
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: Like that's and they're also right tackles. They're not moving

1127
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: anyone around, you know that type of thing. Play right, Broderick,

1128
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: you're on the left, these guys are on the right.

1129
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: Let's go. Hopefully you guys play together for ten years. Yeah,

1130
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: there's a lot of value to that. And they're they fit.

1131
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had the right temperament. They you want to

1132
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: run the football.

1133
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Like I love Fatanu, but I would listen

1134
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: to offers if he was my best offer. You know,

1135
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm listening. I mean I'm not I'm very comfortable taking

1136
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 2: him those ones. I'm sure I'm listening.

1137
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not listening at all.

1138
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just do it.

1139
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean those guys would literally in most drafts

1140
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: are top ten picks.

1141
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like Rodert Jones or Paras Johnson.

1142
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, trading up to get the guy like that.

1143
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and I would consider those two or two

1144
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: i'd consider trading up for I would get to But

1145
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going.

1146
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: They get to fifteen sixteen, I'm thinking about moving up to.

1147
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: Go get them, especially if one of the two is

1148
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: already gone. Yeah, which probably would be, you know, both

1149
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: being available twenty is not going to happen. Yeah, they're

1150
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: very intriguing and I think they'd be very popular.

1151
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, some rare traits.

1152
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly what you're looking for. Oh yeah, there's all

1153
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: a projection there. No, there's not only not right, No,

1154
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: I like those a lot of those Steelers. Yeah, that's

1155
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: gonna do it for the show today. Yeah.

1156
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 3: One absolutely's a little quiet right now. That's all right,

1157
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 3: Glad to be back in the burg here. We're starting

1158
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: to ramp up our triple take stuff again, round two

1159
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 3: of all that, So check that out on Steelers dot Com.

1160
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: Matt and I break things down with Mike Persuda.

1161
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, uh.

1162
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: This this time around, we're digging a little bit deeper

1163
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: into the drafts as opposed to our first Our first

1164
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: look at everything was the here's our top five, and.

1165
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: That's what some of my top five yea too, and

1166
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: that's natural. But then we look at some this is

1167
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: an interesting dude that might be a mid round pick. Yeah,

1168
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: not even through a Steelers lens. It's just it's an

1169
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: interesting player, you.

1170
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: Know, absolutely, So check that out on Steelers dot com.

1171
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 3: You can also if you missed our shows last week

1172
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: on YouTube, go ahead and check out the Steelers YouTube channel.

1173
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 3: Lots of good video on there, lots of stuff beyond

1174
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 3: us that would you know, we're the we're the least

1175
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: of the stuff on.

1176
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: But every drive was you know, broadcast on YouTube, good stuff.

1177
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: We'll be doing that, I would assume, you know, moving

1178
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: forward here, we're going to start doing that more often,

1179
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 3: I think.

1180
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: So there's been a lot of rumblings about that behind

1181
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: the scenes.

1182
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I can look forward to that and maybe,

1183
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 3: well we'll get better at it.

1184
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: It's not exactly exit you know it was the Yeah,

1185
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: I mean it's a lot of chilling with a coffee

1186
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: and reaction, right. Yeah.

1187
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 3: I think you need to start wearing the cut off shirts.

1188
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: Like like a belly shirt, you know, just gonna go

1189
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: like no, just a you know, a cut off shirt,

1190
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: like what's you say, Pat, Pat McAfee. I don't even

1191
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: know what he wears, but okay, he always has like

1192
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: a yeah, it's it's always like a sleeveless shirt. Yeah,

1193
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: that's a real hit. Spike ratings like crazy.

1194
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: Anyways, for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1195
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lallie.

1196
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: We appreciate you listening to this eVision edition of the

1197
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 3: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.