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Speaker 1: I broke up with my loser boyfriend after he didn't

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Speaker 1: propose for seven years?

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Speaker 2: Am I the a hole?

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Speaker 1: And this is okop where we'd be the craziest true

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Speaker 2: I'm John and Sam? Is this person the a hole?

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Speaker 3: I mean it feels like a Roy Pam kind of situation.

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Speaker 3: Roy didn't propose to Pam after nine years, and that's

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Speaker 3: like way too long, I feel like, I mean, it

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Speaker 3: depends on when you start dating, but I think if

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Speaker 3: you start dating like at twenty and you haven't proposed

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Speaker 3: by twenty seven, then I feel red flag? Maybe possibly,

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Speaker 3: But also some people just don't even believe marriage.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 1: I guess we're kind of assuming that both people want it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I believe in marriage.

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Speaker 3: Like my family in Australia, a lot of them don't

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Speaker 3: even get married. It's like they just have life partners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're not all Australian hippies sad I can

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Speaker 1: just have life partners and don't get married.

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Speaker 4: I know, do you guys think it's a red flag?

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Speaker 3: How long would you wait until you break up with

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Speaker 3: someone for not proposing? But your answers in the comments,

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Speaker 3: but I would love to hear the story.

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Speaker 1: If you want to have your story read like this,

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Speaker 1: go to our slash okop show on Reddit. Sand your

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Speaker 1: story there, or call four four zero five's away six

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Speaker 1: five sixty seven.

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Speaker 2: But there's only one way to find out what happens

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Speaker 2: spilled that.

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Speaker 1: Day, Big Ucy says, I female twenty seven have been

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Speaker 1: dating a male twenty seven for over seven years, so

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Speaker 1: exactly the scenario Sam just mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but like, I'm like almost twenty seven, but seven years. Well,

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Speaker 3: our boy justin just got married exactly. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 3: was around that time, but it was before twenty they

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Speaker 3: were in high school, so that I think is a

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Speaker 3: special exception. I've gone tired of waiting for a proposal

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Speaker 3: or even marriage. I want kids soon. He is the

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Speaker 3: love of my life, or so I thought.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, oh no.

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Speaker 1: He was everything and more than I'd ever wished for.

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Speaker 1: Our relationship was great, sex was great. We are open

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Speaker 1: to disagreements and to suggestions on what we need to

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Speaker 1: work on as a team. We encourage each other on

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Speaker 1: individual growth and goals as well. The breakup was not mutual.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we're already going to the breaktha, We already are

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Speaker 3: in reason, it's gonna be terrible. It's gonna be I mean,

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Speaker 3: this isn't the best breakup, this is the worst, and

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Speaker 3: we're on number three.

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Speaker 1: So I hit me with it. I ended the relationship.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, he did not see any reason to break up. Wait,

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Speaker 1: I thought everything. I thought you were just listing. Everything

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Speaker 2: I had a moment of realization.

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Speaker 1: What I love this man, and I see so much

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Speaker 1: progress in our communication and understanding. But I realized this

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Speaker 1: was all he wanted, living together and being here with

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Speaker 1: no plans for marriage or kids. I want kids and

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Speaker 1: he has said that he will not have kids out

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Speaker 2: Wait, second, here, let's breaking up. Get married.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get married, and I would totally

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Speaker 3: have kids, but not I can't get married, sir, make

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Speaker 3: the math math man.

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Speaker 4: Just check. That's a little bit of a red flat.

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Speaker 1: He went on about how he wants to get married

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Speaker 1: before he considers having kids. It's been seven years and

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Speaker 1: we have lived together for five of the seven years.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I broke up with him and broke our lease, packed

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Speaker 1: and found a whole new job. I was just so

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Speaker 1: frustrated by the whole situation. He didn't ever plan to

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Speaker 1: be more, and I felt used for wanting and waiting.

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Speaker 1: I was set on living for me and setting my

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Speaker 1: goal on honoring my own personal goals. It's been a

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Speaker 1: few weeks and I'm wondering if I'm the a hole?

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Speaker 1: the story. And I think I see what's happening here.

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Speaker 1: Op just reached her expiration limit on how long she

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Speaker 3: And it also could just be a thing of like

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Speaker 3: twenty six twenty seven year old guys I can attest

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Speaker 4: Boy putting there. You know, they're putting their big boy.

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Speaker 3: Pants one pant leg at a time, and sometimes it

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Speaker 3: takes like a couple of years to put on those fans.

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Speaker 4: So I just walk.

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Speaker 3: Around pants I've been walking about pantsless for the better

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Speaker 4: So I feel for the guy in not being ready.

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Speaker 3: But I also think like, if she's ready to move on,

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Speaker 3: she's ready to move on, and that isn't the worst thing.

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Speaker 3: Maybe giving him a little bit more of time and

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Speaker 3: a chance to like think about it, but really, ultimatums

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Speaker 3: are never a good way to get someone to grow up.

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Speaker 3: But it does feel like she threw away a lot.

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Speaker 3: And the dating ladies and gentlemen, yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 4: I mean not that I would know. I'm not really

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Speaker 3: but I mean it is. Yeah, It's it's rough out there,

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Speaker 3: so only time will tell if it was worth throwing away.

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Speaker 1: I actually have a question, do you think that the

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Speaker 1: gesture and be like, I want to get you back

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Speaker 1: and show you I.

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Speaker 4: Mean he can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think he can. Yeah, I think he can.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, is op ready willing to accept that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you think you should do it? Yes?

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Speaker 3: If he wants the relationship, yeah, If he wants the relationship, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you should always say no.

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Speaker 4: But it seems like she's had her breaking point.

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Speaker 1: That is true at least maybe maybe at least a

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Speaker 3: It sounds like he's open to two kids, one in Wetherlock.

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Speaker 3: So maybe this was his wake up call. This is

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Speaker 3: his wake up call I did. Hey, I think what

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Speaker 3: I've learned from this breakup story is make sure you

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Speaker 3: It's become super itchy after a while, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Put in the comments for story three if you think

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Speaker 3: Curious, So what like, how long is too long before

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Speaker 3: asking to propose? Put your answer to the comments, because I.

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Speaker 2: Kind of even to know me too.

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Speaker 4: But this is only story number three of these worst breakups.

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Speaker 4: I think we need to get into number two.

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Speaker 2: Turn up the hate.

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Speaker 3: Maybe would I be the a hole for breaking up

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Speaker 3: with my boyfriend because of his hygiene? I twenty four female,

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Speaker 3: A too damn all for this. I'm not a clean

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Speaker 3: freak either. I met my boyfriend six months ago. He

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Speaker 3: He is also anti shave, though he trims his beard.

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Speaker 3: Man is a mountain man.

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Speaker 4: Ever since I was with him, I always had this

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Speaker 3: We did not live together, so I am not at

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Speaker 3: I always had this funky smell from his jug. Why

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Speaker 3: He uses vinegar and lemon to clean stuff. It was odd,

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Speaker 4: He told me he threw away all the toilet.

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Speaker 4: Washing machine wash them every day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, that's that, ain't it?

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Speaker 2: That ain't it?

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Speaker 4: My God, I wanted to vomit right there.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking about ending things because I cannot deal with

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Speaker 4: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: And some people asked in the comments, why is she

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Speaker 3: in my defense, he was very good at giving oral

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Speaker 3: He was more than a giver and never expect to

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Speaker 3: Because of the smell, I thought I could handle this.

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Speaker 3: I always wondered why he smells like levens. I just

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Speaker 3: lemon juice. But in my defense, he is really really sweet.

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Speaker 3: He would always feed me with his hands and give

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Speaker 3: me foot massages. Our sex life was amazing, and it

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Speaker 3: could be that all of it is worth this shit

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Speaker 3: and there is a juicy update. Oh well, let's see. So, Hi,

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Speaker 3: I just wanted you guys to know that I broke

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Speaker 3: up with mister reusable toilet paper. It's awesome, Thank god.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of us have advised me to

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Speaker 3: I always have to eat vegan food and fear that

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Speaker 4: I love me sorry vegans, but that's just my lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: So I broke it off with him.

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Speaker 2: He was sad.

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Speaker 6: I am not mad, but I do not trust Gabby anymore.

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Speaker 5: But that was a messy breakup. It was already like

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Speaker 1: That game out of left We got a double breakup

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: My boyfriend wants to expose me as a stripper to

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Speaker 1: What Sally does on the bole oh man, she's the

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Speaker 1: Dad, Yeah, yeah, come along break bring uncle Bob too.

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Speaker 1: I told my boyfriend I wanted to go back to

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Speaker 2: Concerns me.

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Speaker 4: Why are you with him?

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Speaker 1: I reiterated that if my job or family were to

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Speaker 1: So that is actually a very important factor here. This

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Speaker 4: Is it worth it?

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Speaker 1: He refused and subtly threatened to tell people anyways, So

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Speaker 1: OP had this to do.

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Speaker 2: We broke up.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: The amount of red flags that we saw in like

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Speaker 3: that first few sentences massive, massive, just a sea of

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Speaker 3: red flax a se we're riding on red flag city,

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Speaker 3: too many to count, too many red flags read that hat.

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Speaker 3: We are talking no, no, and trying to see how

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Speaker 3: he would not sign a non disclosure agreement. He said

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Speaker 3: it was because of one thing I told him in confidence.

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Speaker 3: He said this to a friend over a year ago,

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Speaker 3: not my concerns with his immaturity, anger, or threat. So

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Speaker 3: I think at this point he's just hinting at what

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I cannot disclose.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: He's going back to his parents' house this weekend to

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Speaker 1: they don't hate me, He said, He's going to tell

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Speaker 1: them about the stripping versus OnlyFans compromise, and how I

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Speaker 4: Understandable that it would be a serious breach of my privacy.

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Speaker 1: He is so insistent on telling them because he feels

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Speaker 3: You don't need to tell your parents about every blowjob

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Speaker 3: you got. You know like you don't need to get

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Speaker 3: You don't need to have them all up in your business.

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Speaker 2: So this is I sat on the bib.

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Speaker 4: I don't tell them what we do in bed, and

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Speaker 4: don't be lying.

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Speaker 1: It's like the same logic at eleven o four pm,

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Speaker 1: I sat on the bed and pulled down my pantaloons.

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Speaker 2: We don't need that detail.

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Speaker 1: I told him that I don't want to be in

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Speaker 1: yet another reason to judge me.

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Speaker 4: Totally fair.

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Speaker 1: I told him, if they ask you if you're uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: with me doing OnlyFans, say that you're not enthralled, but

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Speaker 1: and how bad our conflict management has been, and that

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Speaker 1: we are seeking help for it.

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Speaker 2: You guys need a lot of help. And that is

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Speaker 2: the end of the final story. So that's it. There's

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Speaker 2: no more.

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Speaker 4: Come on, there must be an update.

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Speaker 2: I'll check, but.

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Speaker 3: That is all she It was the messiest one. It

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Speaker 3: was for sure the messiest one. But I feel I

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Speaker 3: you guys feel bluebald. Too, because like we didn't get

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Speaker 3: the punctuation. You know, well, let's let's punctuate it ourselves.

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Speaker 3: Every single person here watching, including Sam should leave. Yes, Also, girl,

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Speaker 3: work on yourself for a little bit. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you're ready for another relationship. This is messiness on

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Speaker 3: I think op needs to just be single for a

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Speaker 3: lit work, work on ourself, stack that only fans cash.

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Speaker 4: And just take a breather.

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Speaker 1: It kind of feels like, I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: It does seem like that, So like take extra mash

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Speaker 1: and give yourself a great vacation, a therapist, some self

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Like, like, I mean, there's got to be something. They

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Speaker 1: keep going back to each other. There's just like something

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Speaker 1: ain't quite wrong. I think your partner having an only

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's like only a select few

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. I look, I think it's

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's like puff to know from you guys,

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Speaker 2: Why or why not?

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Speaker 3: Put your answers in the comments immediately? You know we

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Speaker 2: Time for okop reward.

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Speaker 4: My wife disowned my son, and I can't believe what

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Speaker 4: you freaking said, you know, disowning your son. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: say something controversial. Yeah, not cool, not cool.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't like it for it.

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Speaker 3: I actually think I'm going to disown every son I have. Really,

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Speaker 3: I think that built character actually does. Have you ever

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Speaker 3: have you ever heard of Game of Thrones? No, you haven't,

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Speaker 3: I've heard of it. You have never seen well. In

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Speaker 4: So it's it's not just a disown. That's too light.

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Speaker 2: We have to completely.

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Speaker 1: What that was like in a ordering throw them off

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Speaker 1: By the way, before we get off this topic, I

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Speaker 2: We are a rare breed. We are a rare species.

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Speaker 2: But I know we will stand strong united.

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Speaker 3: And everyone who's a normal person has watched Game of Thrones.

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Speaker 3: Say King in the North of the comments.

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Speaker 4: Okay versus Game of Thrones. Yeah, yeah, good, there is coming.

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Speaker 2: Go say it to the college.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: I mail thirty seven, have a thirteen year old son.

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Speaker 3: I was a widower when I met my now wife

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Speaker 3: My wife and stepdaughter, on the other hand, the complete opposite,

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Speaker 4: Okay, seems good something they're including. Yeah, right, this is

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Speaker 4: all good, all fair play.

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Speaker 3: My son complained about having to be forced out of

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Speaker 3: I guess I understand, But it's good to push your

444
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 3: comfort zone.

445
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 2: It really depends on the scenario, so I feel.

446
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 3: I'd say, I'd say, but generally pushing her comfort zone

447
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: is like, is good for growth. I spoke to both

448
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: my wife and stepdaughter and asked them to give him

449
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 3: space and freedom to spend his time however he wanted.

450
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 3: They apologized and promised to let him be all right,

451
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 3: which I think, like, I think it is important maybe

452
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 3: to respect his boundaries, But again it depends, Yeah, I mean,

453
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 3: what are they pushing him to do like Yeah, do

454
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: lines of coke in the yeah to Billy. As Mother's

455
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: Day was approaching, I wanted to throw my wife a

456
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 3: surprise Mother's Day celebration. It was no longer surprised because

457
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 3: my stepdaughter gave her the heads up so she could prepare.

458
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 4: Bro stepdaughter, are you ruined? What are you doing baby?

459
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 3: Yesterday I got off work earlier than usually get the

460
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: final arrangements done. We planned to celebrate at the restaurant

461
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 3: and invited her family there. I had the key, and

462
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 3: while I was entering the house through the front door,

463
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: I overheard my wife and stepdaughter talking to my son.

464
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 4: Okay, this is where it's gonna go down. This is

465
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 4: where it's gonna go back. I feel it too. My

466
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 4: spidey senses are tinkling.

467
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: My wife was asking my son if he could convince

468
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 3: me to let him stay home and not go with

469
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 3: them to the restaurant to celebrate. Paused decided to keep listening.

470
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: My son said why, and she told him that his

471
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: introverted and socially inept attitude will make her family uncomfortable and.

472
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: Will ruin the mood.

473
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,239
Speaker 1: How how how is someone like just like keeping to them?

474
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: It's like Billy's being less silence so obnoxious.

475
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 4: Like yeah, say something. I mean, like I feel like

476
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 4: like at least it'll probably like net zero.

477
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there will be no effect, Like it would only

478
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: be true if it was the opposite, if he was

479
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: just like always like making stupid jokes or being annoying.

480
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: And it's like okay, like maybe like you know, don't

481
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: go too crazy maybe but like being quiet.

482
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a friend Christian. Christians like can be

483
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: quiet sometimes. He's always great to have around. Yes, so

484
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: what are you trying to say? It's like Christian tree.

485
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 2: He's like, don't Christian.

486
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: You know, I love you a friendly tree. It's not

487
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: a compliment. Or you decide, you decide if you love trees,

488
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 3: then it's a compliment.

489
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 4: That's right.

490
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: He promised her that he'd be well behaved and would

491
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 3: try to interact and socialize with everyone, but she said

492
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: that she wasn't buying it.

493
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 4: Dude, this this kid's literally like, hey, like.

494
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 3: I'll really try for you, but the freaking mother figure

495
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: is like nah, awful, Yeah, it's terrible. He kept reassuring her,

496
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: but she snapped and told him that technically she's not

497
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: his mom, so she didn't get why he wanted to

498
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: celebrate Mother's Day with her so badly?

499
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: Shut up?

500
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 4: What, bro, you should be trying to like connect? Yeah,

501
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 4: we go mom literally died, Like.

502
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: And that's true.

503
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the oh pie's widowed? Is mom?

504
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 2: Thirteen year old?

505
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 4: Of course he's like hoping to have a mother figure.

506
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: Searching for his mom.

507
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: Oh my, I can't imagine how terrible that would feel. Like,

508
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: oh dude, like, what do you even say? What would

509
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: you say to that? People that got truly are okay,

510
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: p faily, what do you what do you even say?

511
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 4: What do you say? Put in the comments?

512
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: My stepdaughter threw some I don't remember backhanded comment, and

513
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: then both of them were shocked to see me standing there.

514
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: Both were staring without saying anything.

515
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: Yo.

516
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: I told my son and his stepsister to go to

517
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 3: their rooms and told my wife that the celebration was off.

518
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: Canceled. Get canceled. Karen freaking step Karen?

519
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: Yes, Karen, I like go like like everyone's like out

520
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: of the room, like shit's about to go down right now.

521
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

522
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: She tried to argue, asking why repeatedly, and I told

523
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: her why, Like what do you mean?

524
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 5: Why?

525
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 4: Bro? You got caught right hand a dick bag.

526
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: Are you an idiot?

527
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 3: I told her I was done arguing and the decision

528
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: was already made. She yelled, asking what she was going

529
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: to tell her family and said that I was making

530
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 3: a tremendous mistake towards her.

531
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: A tremendous mistake.

532
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: Bro, you made a tremendous mistake about being like like

533
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: by literally disowning your son.

534
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: This is this is gaslighting vibes. Yeah, this is so bad.

535
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: This is so bad. It's like she gets caught doing

536
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 4: something terrible and she was like, I can't believe you

537
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 4: were doing this to me.

538
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 2: How dare you do this to my family?

539
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 7: Yeah?

540
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 4: Oh good self?

541
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah really.

542
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: I ignored her while she kept throwing tantrum after tantrum.

543
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: Early this morning, she took my stepdaughter and went to

544
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: stay with her folks. Then a single call or text

545
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: from her. So far situation. It's full of tension. I'm

546
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: upset still, but more hurt to be honest, I mean, yes,

547
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 3: I did say I was going to have the celebration,

548
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: but I thought what she said to my son was

549
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: too harsh to ignore.

550
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 4: Yes, am I the a hole for doing this?

551
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: You are absolutely the whole Okay, Like, this is just kidding. Yeah,

552
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: John's actually a terrible person and agrees only with that.

553
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: Finally everyone understands you guys know he does you know

554
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: you know John? Yeah, I think like I mean, one

555
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 3: the gas lighting, like you totally called it, like they're

556
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: instant gas lighting when she's confronted with anything that even

557
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: represents a reprimanding. And of course, like op needs to

558
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 3: do something like this, but there should be repercussions. There

559
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 3: should be like a serious conversation because it's like, dude,

560
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: that kid is looking for a mother figure.

561
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: And I didn't even think about that, But as soon

562
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: as you said that, I was like, that's that. I mean,

563
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: it's already bad for it to be like I'm not

564
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: even your basically, I'm not your mom, So why do

565
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: you even care? But like the fact that he lost

566
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: his mom because she passed away, like and he's thirteen,

567
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: Like that's like prime like vulnerable age.

568
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so and like you can tell that he's like

569
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: trying to he's trying to he's like he's trying to

570
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: ingratiate that mother figure by saying like no, no, I'm

571
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: going to I'm.

572
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 4: Going to try to be socialized.

573
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: Like literally, it's uncomfortable for him to be social, and

574
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: he's going to try because he wants to be there

575
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: for her mother's day. He literally just wants to be

576
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: there for her mother's day.

577
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: That's it.

578
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: And she's like, no, no, you're too awkward. Bro, not

579
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: my son for me, man op, not the ahle, that's right,