Speaker 1: Motherfucking solisodes. Motherfucking yup, yup, yup. There it is there.
Speaker 1: It is Ladies and gentlemen fucking to another phenomenal episode.
Speaker 1: I don't know why my voice got that high. Phenomenal
Speaker 1: episode of my mama told me the podcast will we
Speaker 1: dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: and we finally worked to prove the theories that you
Speaker 1: the listeners have at home. Did I mentioned as a
Speaker 1: mini episode? I did not. I railroaded right through that ship.
Speaker 1: But you goddamn right into mini episode. And as you know,
Speaker 1: the many episodes are all about you bitches at home.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of talking to my friends and peers and
Speaker 1: people who are respect in comedy and art. Now fuck them.
Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. The person who works
Speaker 1: at at Walmart, I want to know what you believe in.
Speaker 1: Guy who who who ships at a bank, tell me
Speaker 1: what you know out in the world. Lady who samples
Speaker 1: the odorant, I assume that's a job that exists, that
Speaker 1: people have to like sample deodorant just to make sure
Speaker 1: that it's it's safe. I guess for us to go
Speaker 1: in and use the deodorant that gets sampled. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not a scientist. I'm just a man with hundreds
Speaker 1: of dollars of recording equipment and a lot of bad
Speaker 1: decisions living in my head. That said, you know who
Speaker 1: didn't make a bad decision today is it's the person
Speaker 1: who sent me a message an exciting conspiracy theory, one
Speaker 1: that that has come across my desk. And I say
Speaker 1: desk very loosely. I I record this out of my
Speaker 1: daughter's nursery. She's not here yet, and so I get
Speaker 1: to keep her cords in here until my wife inevitably
Speaker 1: kicks me out and I'm forced to be a nomad
Speaker 1: in my own home. Did I pay for the home? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But somehow I lost the battle and that doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense to me, but not a lot of things do. Anyway.
Speaker 1: The point is a person named Anthony sent me a
Speaker 1: message that I'm gonna play for you now. Hey, Lenkston,
Speaker 1: this is Anthony, a big fan of the show Uman
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory, and I will love to hear you
Speaker 1: talk about it's about easy being shut up with the
Speaker 1: age virus, pecially night. I don't know if you heard it,
Speaker 1: but I've seen it on it and that's a few times,
Speaker 1: and I thought it would be good for the show.
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot keeping going. All right, Well, thank you,
Speaker 1: Anthony for I I appreciate how concise you made that message.
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate you sending me such a dangerous conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is the type of conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: that's gonna get my door kicked in the night. But
Speaker 1: I guess you don't give a funk about my future, Anthony,
Speaker 1: or my family's safety. So Hanthony, But but thank you
Speaker 1: very much. I'm excited to unpack this one. And boy
Speaker 1: was it a doozy to to read about. So I
Speaker 1: think the easiest way to enter this conversation has to
Speaker 1: really break down the timeline of easy ease relationship with HIV. Now,
Speaker 1: it is suggested, and I don't know the exact timeline
Speaker 1: for some of these things that Easy basically began feeling
Speaker 1: symptoms of pneumonia around or or at least a a
Speaker 1: type of cold around January. He goes into a doctor
Speaker 1: to get that assessed. By February, he's been diagnosed as
Speaker 1: HIV positive. Then on March seventeenth, Easy he announces to
Speaker 1: the world that he has been diagnosed with eight. Now
Speaker 1: this is where things get messy, because March literally two
Speaker 1: weeks later, he died from AIDS induced pneumonia. He died
Speaker 1: from pneumonia brought on by AIDS and its complications, one
Speaker 1: month after his diagnosis and then a few weeks after
Speaker 1: his announcement to the world. Now, the suddenness of his
Speaker 1: death despite never showing any real signs of being sick
Speaker 1: in relation to AIDS or at least what people associated
Speaker 1: with HIV and AIDS at the time. The the lesions
Speaker 1: on the skin, losing weight, sort of appearing sickly, he
Speaker 1: never had any of that, and the real him never
Speaker 1: having any of that is part of the reason that
Speaker 1: most of the quote unquote deniers tend to point or
Speaker 1: at least question if Easy He did in fact contract
Speaker 1: the disease through his own promiscuity, or if he was
Speaker 1: in fact murdered intentionally given the AIDS virus as a
Speaker 1: tool of murder. Now, this conspiracy theory, although it sounds insane,
Speaker 1: is kind of held by a ship ton of people
Speaker 1: in Easy Easy Life. That includes Jerry Heller, who was
Speaker 1: his former manager and partner at Ruthless Records, UH, members
Speaker 1: of Bone Thugs, and Harmony, who had just signed to
Speaker 1: Ruthless his former personal assistant Charms Henry b G Knockout,
Speaker 1: and it even includes Easy Easy son Young Easy original name.
Speaker 1: I like what he did there. He could have just
Speaker 1: been easy f or easy d you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: He could have just kept going with the letters of
Speaker 1: the alphabet, but nah, he said funk that. I'm going
Speaker 1: with young Easy, super smart, super classy. Love that ship anyway.
Speaker 1: It is worth noting that not all of these people
Speaker 1: suspect that Easy got intentionally injected with the AIDS virus
Speaker 1: by Suge Knight. Suge Knight is is not everyone's first suspect.
Speaker 1: In fact, many of them are pretty suspicious of each other.
Speaker 1: Many of the people on that list suspect that the
Speaker 1: others are responsible. It's it's a real game of nigga
Speaker 1: clue with a bunch of folks being like, I think
Speaker 1: it was Jerry Heller with the acupuncture need under the staircase,
Speaker 1: or I think it was Daz Dillinger with the crack
Speaker 1: needle under the raiders had you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's not the same kind of clue game
Speaker 1: that we're used to, but it sounds pretty fun. If
Speaker 1: anybody wants to invent Niga Clue I play, I'll send
Speaker 1: some money to that go fund me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Let's let's get back to go fund means
Speaker 1: that are for fun games, like the transmission of of
Speaker 1: secret aids, needles for killing celebrities. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: No more of these go fund means where you're trying
Speaker 1: to get liver transplants or or fix your burned down home.
Speaker 1: Fuck that. I want the games back, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Anyway, there are a lot of suspects, but
Speaker 1: across the board, the leading front runner seems to be
Speaker 1: successful murderers shuld Night. Now the feud between Easy and
Speaker 1: Should begin in which Should showing up to Galaxy Studios
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles with baseball bat and goons and tow
Speaker 1: to force Easy into letting Dr Dre, the DNC and
Speaker 1: Michel out of the Ruthless Records contract. Basically they wanted
Speaker 1: to leave. If you've seen Straight out of Compton, you
Speaker 1: know there was internal strife between Easy and Dr Dre
Speaker 1: and all of the people at Ruthless Records, and should
Speaker 1: Night being who should Night, has decided the easiest way
Speaker 1: to solve this problem was to beat the ship out
Speaker 1: of Easy rather than uh, we didn't get lawyers involved.
Speaker 1: He really is a you know, a straight shooter in
Speaker 1: that sense. You don't need to go through the legal
Speaker 1: system to solve these problems. Just break somebody's knees with
Speaker 1: baseball bets and and then usually those record contracts find
Speaker 1: their way of working themselves out. That said, Jerry Heller
Speaker 1: even maintains that he talked to Easy and Easy once
Speaker 1: confided in him that he was going to murder Suge Knight.
Speaker 1: He was gonna murder Suge Night, but Jerry talked him
Speaker 1: out of that decision because the time Death Row, which
Speaker 1: was a brand new record company, post no real competition
Speaker 1: to the stronghold that Ruthless Records had over hip hop.
Speaker 1: Jerry also maintains that he now regrets not letting Easy
Speaker 1: commit that murder because it would have ensured that no
Speaker 1: one left Ruthless Records and their longevity would have never wavered.
Speaker 1: So all in all, I think based on these statements,
Speaker 1: you can tell that Jerry Heller is a pretty good guy,
Speaker 1: just a solid human being. No notes on my end. Sure,
Speaker 1: let your friend murder another human being so that it
Speaker 1: ensures ice Cube never goes and tries his music elsewhere.
Speaker 1: It seemed like a smart, healthy person, Jerry. So basically
Speaker 1: this fight happens. Easy ultimately is forced to give up
Speaker 1: these contracts, and it's it's not obviously it's obviously not
Speaker 1: a great thing. But that said, it's not necessarily enough
Speaker 1: to warrant accusing a man of running around with a
Speaker 1: Samurai AIDS needle, you know what I mean, Like they
Speaker 1: really it's it's a big cell to jump from beating
Speaker 1: the ship out of somebody in a record studio so
Speaker 1: that you can solve some contract issues into now then
Speaker 1: trying to inject him with the AIDS virus. However, in
Speaker 1: two thousand three, after sug Night was released from prison,
Speaker 1: he made an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live, which is
Speaker 1: an insane concept in and of itself. He this big,
Speaker 1: evil motherfucker found his way onto I Guess, one of
Speaker 1: the most popular late night shows in the country, and
Speaker 1: on his appearance and Jimmy Kimmel Live, he insinuated a
Speaker 1: direct connection to Easy Death. The quote that everybody sort
Speaker 1: of points to is that should go see technology is
Speaker 1: so high and this is after you know, Jimmy I
Speaker 1: guess playfully prodes that shuge history with with killing people.
Speaker 1: He's giggling alongside sug Night, laughing about his his tendency
Speaker 1: to murder people. In shug retorts by saying, see, techno
Speaker 1: apology isself high. So if you shoot somebody, you go
Speaker 1: to jail forever. You don't want to go to jail forever.
Speaker 1: They have a new thing out. They got blood from
Speaker 1: somebody with AIDS and they shoot you with it. That's
Speaker 1: a slow death, the easy e thing, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And that who I guess After he said that,
Speaker 1: the audience laughed. I guess they giggled and and then
Speaker 1: there was a big applause and maybe, uh, there's two
Speaker 1: thousand three, so fall Out Boy played. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a little weird to even think about how this
Speaker 1: was a comfortable conversation on a stage in front of
Speaker 1: millions and millions of viewers, But I think it does
Speaker 1: speak to the way that white people continue to manipulate
Speaker 1: black sort of media and entertainment to make us sort
Speaker 1: of They continue to put our worst people up in
Speaker 1: front of us and pretend like they don't understand where
Speaker 1: this violence comes from. But this feels like a conversation
Speaker 1: for a different day. Either way, Sugar Night is, whether
Speaker 1: honestly or sort of playfully poking at the fact that
Speaker 1: Easy may have been murdered through suspicious needles rather than uh,
Speaker 1: natural contraction through sex. Now it is worth noting, and
Speaker 1: this is where things get interesting, is that Easy E
Speaker 1: had a ship ton of sex, like a ship ton,
Speaker 1: and none of his partners have ever come forward claiming
Speaker 1: to have contracted the disease, certainly not from him. On record,
Speaker 1: Easy E had seven children from six baby mothers, although
Speaker 1: Jerry Heller, uh you know him, famous good guy who
Speaker 1: also I guess, at some point in his own book
Speaker 1: self described as easy He's best friend, which I don't
Speaker 1: know in what world this old fucking, creepy, sweaty evil
Speaker 1: record company exactly is also somehow hanging out with Easy
Speaker 1: and they just can they never run out of stuff
Speaker 1: to talk about. But apparently they were best friends according
Speaker 1: to Jerry Heller, and when he went on record claiming
Speaker 1: that Easy he had eleven children by eight different baby mothers.
Speaker 1: Although I don't know based on everything that we're saying
Speaker 1: that Jerry had great records of any of these relationships.
Speaker 1: Still none of the mothers or children have ever come
Speaker 1: forward as testing positive for HIV, and in fact, easy
Speaker 1: As then wife, Tamika Woods, was pregnant at the time
Speaker 1: of his diagnosis, and both she and the child that
Speaker 1: came after Easy's death both remain HIV negative or at
Speaker 1: least were HIV negative at the time. If they're positive now,
Speaker 1: they ain't talking about it. This seems suspicious and for
Speaker 1: a lot of people, including people like Lazy Bone and
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of motherfucker's I guess lazy crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't know where wish stands in this whole thing,
Speaker 1: but I as some wishes aligning with his boys. And
Speaker 1: this whole thing seemed to point to the fact that
Speaker 1: the speed of his death means that something more drastic
Speaker 1: happened that oftentimes, and and many people point this out
Speaker 1: that oftentimes with the AIDS virus, people live much longer
Speaker 1: than a few weeks. It isn't like this sudden death.
Speaker 1: It actually is something that eats away at you for
Speaker 1: a long time. And especially given the resources that Easy
Speaker 1: he had. He wasn't a broke person, so he had
Speaker 1: all the resources and access to be able to keep
Speaker 1: himself alive. And they claimed that part of the reason
Speaker 1: that he died so quickly was because of the extreme
Speaker 1: amounts in contact that happened with the AIDS virus. That said,
Speaker 1: I read a a Washington I can't remember which version
Speaker 1: of Washington article this was wood which was this was
Speaker 1: this Washington Post, the Washington Post. There's a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of Washington as periodicals, and so sometimes you forget, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're talking to yourself alone in the nursery. That said,
Speaker 1: there's a Washington Post article that sort of explains a
Speaker 1: bit of how it's possible that none of the people
Speaker 1: who are coming in contact with eazy E would in
Speaker 1: fact end up with the AIDS virus. Justin go Forth
Speaker 1: a register knows that Whitmer Walker, health and longtime survivor
Speaker 1: of being HIV positive. He has he had it for
Speaker 1: twenty three years at the time that this article came out.
Speaker 1: Explains that even without treatment, only about one third of
Speaker 1: children are born HIV positive to an HIV positive mother.
Speaker 1: Even with no treatment for anybody, the mother or the child,
Speaker 1: still about two thirds of the babies are born HIV negative. Similarly,
Speaker 1: he explains that the transmission of HIV is much harder
Speaker 1: through vaginal intercourse versus anal intercourse, and that it's not
Speaker 1: uncommon for sexual partners to go years without contraction. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you a bit of a lengthy quote,
Speaker 1: but I think it does add a lot of context
Speaker 1: to the article. Explains people are infected with HIV. Who
Speaker 1: are infective with HIV who go untreated tend to experience
Speaker 1: very high viral loads in the early stages of infection,
Speaker 1: and that's when their T cell counts dropped. Basically, your
Speaker 1: T cells are the things that protect you against the virus.
Speaker 1: But then after that there's a period of latency that
Speaker 1: can last for years when their viral loads are quite low.
Speaker 1: The lower the viral load, the more difficult HIV transmission becomes,
Speaker 1: especially through vaginal intercourse. It's about average that someone lives
Speaker 1: about eight to ten years from day of infection to
Speaker 1: death without treatment. Far more people are infected by people
Speaker 1: who are in their first year or so of their
Speaker 1: infection because their viral load is really really high. They're
Speaker 1: still healthy, they're still having sex, and then their viral
Speaker 1: load drops off pretty dramatically for years, and then it
Speaker 1: starts climbing back up pretty dramatically. At that point. He
Speaker 1: then explains that it would surprise him if none of
Speaker 1: Easy East partners during that early period of time got infected,
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise him if people that were with
Speaker 1: him for the middle part of the years of his
Speaker 1: HIV infection didn't get it infected. He says, I've been
Speaker 1: doing this since the nineties and have seen that happen
Speaker 1: and have had couples sit in my office like I
Speaker 1: don't understand how he can have HIV and I don't
Speaker 1: have HIV. It definitely happens. So there is the possibility
Speaker 1: that easy could have been infected anywhere between the mid
Speaker 1: eighties to the early nineties, and the early partners just
Speaker 1: got fucking lucky, and the later partners were statistically far
Speaker 1: less likely to contract HIV because of his low viral load.
Speaker 1: That basically the shift in the viral load, this sort
Speaker 1: of bell curve of viral load ship basically kept them
Speaker 1: safer from the virus than anyone anticipated. So long story short,
Speaker 1: this was a bunch of science talking bullshit and reading
Speaker 1: Who the funk wants to read? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Who wants to hear me read? Nobody likes it, but
Speaker 1: you know I feel like I owe a certain level
Speaker 1: of responsibility to this conversation, because otherwise I'm just accusing
Speaker 1: a murdering man of of murdering in a different way.
Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know. It's all very scary and complicated,
Speaker 1: but that's that. Do I actually think that Easy got
Speaker 1: aids from Suge Night by being injected by Suge Knight?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that that's probably true. I
Speaker 1: do think that Suge Knight is a very effective killer,
Speaker 1: and I think that, Uh, you know, if you're good
Speaker 1: at something, you'd like to brag about it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You like that. Listen, I'm pretty good
Speaker 1: at comedy. I like to think of myself as a
Speaker 1: pretty funny motherfucker, and I like to make that clear
Speaker 1: in most places that I go. I want people to
Speaker 1: know him funny and well else should Night's real good
Speaker 1: at murders, so I think everywhere he goes, he's he's
Speaker 1: like top five, you know what I mean, There's he's
Speaker 1: up there, there's there's him. It's it's John Wick, It's
Speaker 1: it's Genghis Khan, It's Dick Cheney. I guess maybe con
Speaker 1: that was too many twenties but you get the point.
Speaker 1: And there aren't a lot of murderers as as good
Speaker 1: as Shude Night. So yeah, if he's hearing about somebody dying,
Speaker 1: he probably takes credit for that. Ship if somebody's like,
Speaker 1: he probably walks up and down hospital wards like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I killed that bitch. I killed that bitch. I killed
Speaker 1: that bitch. And it's like, who's gonna walk up to
Speaker 1: him and be like, no, you didn't you you big motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you didn't kill these people? Like no, you just let
Speaker 1: him kind of have it. So I think Shu Night
Speaker 1: is just wanting to take credit for something really sad
Speaker 1: that happened to a guy during a time when we
Speaker 1: weren't hugely sensitive to what this virus was and and is,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know a lot about the way that
Speaker 1: it's contracted, and we knew even less about the way
Speaker 1: that it takes people's lives. So not Easy didn't die
Speaker 1: from murder. He died from his own uh, from just
Speaker 1: getting this dick sucked too many times, And that's a
Speaker 1: that's a sad way to go out, but hey, you know,
Speaker 1: there are worse ways. If you gotta die death by snooze,
Speaker 1: snooze That's what I always say. Anyway, if you want
Speaker 1: to tell me about other conspiracy theories related to people
Speaker 1: getting their dick suck too many times, you can send
Speaker 1: those conspiracy theories to my mama pod at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: I would love to hear from you. I wanna, I
Speaker 1: wanna talk that talk. But like I did with my
Speaker 1: boy Anthony here and so please send me your voice mamo,
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Speaker 1: all stupid and I could have ended this years ago. Okay, bye, bitch.
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