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Speaker 1: episode of my mama told me the podcast will we

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Speaker 1: dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 1: But you goddamn right into mini episode. And as you know,

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Speaker 1: the many episodes are all about you bitches at home.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of talking to my friends and peers and

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Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. The person who works

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Speaker 1: what you know out in the world. Lady who samples

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Speaker 1: that's a sad way to go out, but hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: Motherfucking many years, so many, motherfucking many years. So, motherfucking

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Speaker 1: many years. So, motherfucking many years. So