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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and Senator Ted Cruz says, I don't

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Speaker 1: think gas prices are going to impact the midterms. We

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Speaker 1: have such a great show for you today, the Jim

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Speaker 1: Acosta Shows. Jim Acosta stops by to talk about Trump's

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Speaker 1: latest assaults on justice and the rule of law. Then

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Zone Hugo loll about what he sees

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Speaker 1: inside this very chaos at Trump White House. But first

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Speaker 1: the news.

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Speaker 2: So my big election results last night. I think the

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Speaker 2: most exciting news for you and I, because we care

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Speaker 2: about what we cover so much, is that Josh Turk

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Speaker 2: has really handily won his Senate nomination in the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 2: And Rob sam who is uncontested, is going to go

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Speaker 2: against a terrible, terrible candidate Niwa, and the election is

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Speaker 2: now a toss up.

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Speaker 1: These are all people we've had on this podcast, So

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Speaker 1: let us have a moment of like yay us. Let

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Speaker 1: us celebrate that Josh Tarek, who has been on this

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Speaker 1: podcast twice he is really a great candidate, dragged his

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Speaker 1: wheelchair up steps just as extremely good candidate, by the way,

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Speaker 1: that was a Schumer pick. Good for Schumer. He is

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Speaker 1: a really good candidate, really gonna I think, flip that

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Speaker 1: be a really great candidate in the future too. He's

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Speaker 2: There's two Senate seats, one with a ninety year old

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Speaker 1: Oh right, that's right. Yes, there's another Senate seat that's

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Speaker 1: maybe Zach will run for that one. But exciting to

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Speaker 1: see a purple state or a state that is a

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Speaker 1: also Rob Sand's cruising to the nomination Rob Sand and

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Speaker 1: he will I think very likely be the governor of Iowa.

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Speaker 1: So that is a big fucking deal for Iowa.

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Speaker 2: So let's move on to California. So one of the

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Speaker 2: things that's interesting is a lot of people are counting

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Speaker 2: these chickens before they're hatched. California always has a Republican

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Speaker 2: And it really says a lot that Spencer Pratt was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, really important point about how you don't know

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I lived in Venice for a whole

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Speaker 1: News to me, California learning all about its local government

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Speaker 1: one candidate at a time. A lot of exciting things

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Speaker 1: Sam Wang did not win his congressional see that congressional primary,

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Speaker 2: The big upset is Adam Hamaway, who I think as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's also important. We don't talk about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a vile member of Congress, like Congressman

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Speaker 2: he wins last night, because that's what they do, right.

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Speaker 1: And it's ironic because Mike Lawler, who was so excited

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Speaker 2: Somali. Let's talk about economic indicators. Gold has overtaken US

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is bad. People go into gold when they

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about an interesting thing I'd love to

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Speaker 2: It's just like this is a minor infraction compared to

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Speaker 1: Right, I know exactly. We've seen my man do this before.

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Speaker 1: The point of this is that obviously it is homophobic,

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Speaker 1: so you're seeing, like I think about Peter Tile, if

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Speaker 2: Well, that was my question to you. So a lot

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Speaker 2: So like Sam Waltman's gay right, Like.

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Speaker 1: Mike Lawler, who condemned the post, he did it because

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, Mike Lawler, everybody's least to Jim Acosta is

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Speaker 1: of the People, A Dangerous Time to Tell the Truth

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Speaker 3: Acosta, Molly, Molly, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: You know, living the dream? Donald Trump is going to

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Speaker 1: get us a peace treaty. It's coming, it's here. Axios

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Speaker 4: it'll be over today and we will have peace. My

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Speaker 4: But Trump will keep saying the wars over to get

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Speaker 4: the stock market to go up temporarily. Because that's sort

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Speaker 4: I did the cognitive test, and it is not an

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Speaker 3: I actually have it right here. This is my cognitive

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so now we're in this war, and it

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Speaker 4: Enemies, right, And remember, I mean this is sort of

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Speaker 1: Part of Barry Weis is taking a part CBS. It

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Speaker 4: To me, Scott Pelly had no other choice but to

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Speaker 4: Is yeah, no intimidating and pressuring journalists to pull back

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Speaker 4: this is not about inside media baseball kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: This is a political and ideological project on the part

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Speaker 4: of the Trump people to essentially change the way the

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Speaker 4: news is done in this country. And I witnessed some

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Speaker 4: of this over at CNN, you know, being told to

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Speaker 4: watch my tone and we have to be careful and YadA, YadA, YadA,

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Speaker 4: and it gets to a point where you just can't

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Speaker 4: take it anymore, especially now we're supposed to pull back

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Speaker 4: and pull our punches with somebody who is the most

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Speaker 4: dangerous president to our democracy that we will probably ever

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Speaker 4: experience in our lifetimes. You know, this moment calls for

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Speaker 4: the exact opposite of that.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I think it's really I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it's really important to realize that, Like Scott Pelly had

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Speaker 1: this line that he was telling younger journalists, which is like,

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Speaker 1: you can't have democracy without without real reporting. And that's true.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this is like a fight that America

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Speaker 1: survives when we can hold powerful people to account. And

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Speaker 1: that is the job of reporters is to dig into

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Speaker 1: powerful people and figure out if they're you know, acting

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Speaker 1: in the way they say they are. And like a

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Speaker 1: really good example is Doge came in there because they

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Speaker 1: said they were going to end fraud or waste and abuse,

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Speaker 1: and what did they do? They did waste, abuse and

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Speaker 1: perhaps even fraud. And so like the idea that we

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Speaker 1: can have a democracy without the checks and balances that

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Speaker 1: reporting provides, I think is very unlikely.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And I think that the folks that are

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Speaker 4: still there in the corporate media that you know, you

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Speaker 4: and I could take off off the top of our head,

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Speaker 4: the names that we know. I mean, this is sort

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Speaker 4: of a gut check time for a lot of people,

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Speaker 4: and the media executives who run these companies. They need

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Speaker 4: to look in the mirror and ask themselves, are we

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Speaker 4: doing something that's good for the country. Are we doing

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Speaker 4: something that's bad for the country? And right now, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: what Barry Weiss is doing is bad for this country. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and she I you know, you know, I feel for

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Speaker 4: people in their early forties.

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Speaker 3: I wish I could go back to my days in

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Speaker 3: my early forties. You don't know as much. You're a

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Speaker 3: lot more naive.

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe not as naive as you were in

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Speaker 4: your thirties and your twenties, But at forty two or

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Speaker 4: forty three years old, do you really understand the world

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Speaker 4: well enough to run an entire news organization? I just

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Speaker 4: don't know. And I sort of think that my impression

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Speaker 4: of her, and I don't know her at all, is that,

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Speaker 4: you know, she thinks it's fun and cute to go

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Speaker 4: on this anti.

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Speaker 3: Woke crusade, but really she's just a tool of the

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Speaker 3: far right.

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Speaker 4: She's just being used by the far right and they

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Speaker 4: are doing real damage to this country in real time

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Speaker 4: as we speak. And she needs to understand, and that

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Speaker 4: is she won't watch this and she won't hear anything

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Speaker 4: that I have to say. But this is doing real

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Speaker 4: damage to this country. And who knows how long it's

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Speaker 4: going to take to fix all of this. I know

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Speaker 4: it's a good thing. I suppose that independent media is

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Speaker 4: rising up and folks are coming to different places to.

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Speaker 3: See all this and whatnot.

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Speaker 4: But even the folks in independent media, we don't you

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Speaker 4: and I Molly don't have like a massive news organization

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Speaker 4: with uros all over the world, the ability to do

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Speaker 4: expensive investigative journalism. That's why breaking CBS apart the way

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Speaker 4: that are murdering CBS she's been accused of doing by

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Speaker 4: Scott Pelly is so damn important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that and I think that's right. It's one thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can have the hot takes, but we

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Speaker 1: need the reporting to write off of. We need the

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Speaker 1: investigations to keep powerful people accountable. And that is a

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Speaker 1: real fucking problem. And you know, I would add, like

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Speaker 1: I work in a network's that is run by a

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Speaker 1: younger woman who is awesome, Rebecca Cultage.

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Speaker 3: She is she is, that's true. And some people have

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Speaker 3: their head screwed on more than others, which is good.

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Speaker 1: Right, She's young and she's great.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think I don't but but but but

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Speaker 4: when people approach these through an ideological lens, mischief will

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Speaker 4: can and will occur. And that's what's happening with Barry Weiss.

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Speaker 1: And Trump doesn't want accountability. The whole thing is he

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Speaker 1: want you know, he wants to take these places apart.

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Speaker 1: What I think is interesting about this moment is that

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Speaker 1: both fairy Wise and David Allison seemed to not have

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Speaker 1: any idea how to do any of this. So like

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Speaker 1: they're killing the network, but they're also like you look

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Speaker 1: at the Knightly Show, the nightly News show, like they're

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Speaker 1: killing the ratings like people. The people don't like it either, no.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, And I don't think the ratings matter to them.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that this that's what this is. This

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Speaker 4: is not like and I when I worked at CBS

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Speaker 4: many many years ago, I heard an executive say, well,

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Speaker 4: well maybe if we acted more like Fox, you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe we could help our ratings, and so this has

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Speaker 4: been a thought bubble that has occurred to television news

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Speaker 4: executives for many, many years now. They many people have

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Speaker 4: thought of this. The problem is is that it First

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Speaker 4: of all, it doesn't work. The second thing is is

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Speaker 4: that in this case, I don't even think that's what

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Speaker 4: this is. I don't think this is like, hey, if

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Speaker 4: we're more like Fox, people will watch. I think this

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Speaker 4: is an ideological exercise. This is let's see if we

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Speaker 4: can take over sixty minutes and turn it into something

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Speaker 4: that is favorable to our point of view. And that

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Speaker 4: is a very different thing, and it is a very

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Speaker 4: dangerous thing. I think for this country. It's one of

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Speaker 4: the top television shows in the world. And if it's

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Speaker 4: filled with the likes of you know, I don't I

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Speaker 4: even want to say their names like Joe Rogan and

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Speaker 4: people like that on the far right, what are we

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Speaker 4: doing here?

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Speaker 3: You know? I think it's just terribly disturbing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too, And I also think, like I

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Speaker 1: don't see an easy way out of it, which.

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Speaker 3: Is worse exactly exactly Jim A.

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Speaker 4: Costa on that happy sunny note, Molly, thank you so much,

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Hugo Law is a senior political correspondent at Wired magazine.

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Speaker 1: Hugo Law Welcome, Welcome to Fast Politics.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I'm coming to you from Conde Nast HQ at One

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Speaker 6: Wall Trade.

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Speaker 5: This is why the view is fantastic. I'm not in

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Speaker 5: my living room.

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Speaker 1: Yes, let the record show for all of those people

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Speaker 1: who are listening to this podcast that the view behind

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Speaker 1: Hugo Law is amazing. Hugo Lowell networks for Wired, one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite magazines, And you did a piece which

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about what's happening in

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Speaker 1: the White House too, but I really want to We're

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Speaker 1: going to start by talking about this AI. First of all,

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Speaker 1: these are executive orders, so they're bullshit anyway, Right, I

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Speaker 1: put my hand on a rock and I say, like,

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Speaker 1: none of these have any legal path. But last week

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump had an executive order and it gots scuttled

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Speaker 1: on AI or two weeks ago, and it got scuttled

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Speaker 1: at the last minute. So tie us through what happened

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Speaker 1: and why. I think this is actually quite an important story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So on May twenty first, Trump abruptly cancels the signing

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Speaker 6: ceremony for this AI.

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Speaker 5: Executive order, and he does it basically.

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Speaker 6: Because David Sachs is former ais ARE, calls him up

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Speaker 6: in the morning of the signing and says, if you.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead with this executive order.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be too owner us and it's going

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Speaker 6: to make us less competitive in the AI development space

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Speaker 6: compared to China, which is currently lacking behind.

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Speaker 5: They're going to catch up with us.

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Speaker 6: And Trump hears this and goes, oh my god, there

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Speaker 6: is no way we can continue with this executive order,

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Speaker 6: and he pulls the entire thing. It is important to

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Speaker 6: remember though, that David Sachs is against regulation writ Lodge

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Speaker 6: for these so called frontier AI models, but the rest

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Speaker 6: of the White House has realized that this is actually

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Speaker 6: quite a sophisticated, powerful thing that is obviously going to

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Speaker 6: a shape our lives in the years and decades to come,

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Speaker 6: but also has the ability to be used by malicious

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Speaker 6: actors to conduct cyber attacks. And one of the reasons

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Speaker 6: why the whole AI regulation idea has come back to

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Speaker 6: before in recent weeks is because Anthropic unveiled broad mythos

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Speaker 6: and clawed methos. This is extremely powerful AI model that

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Speaker 6: identified vulnerabilities and gaps in our critical infrastructure both in

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Speaker 6: at the federal government and also like hospitals and medical

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Speaker 6: centers and energy plants, and if someone could use methos

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Speaker 6: to hack into the systems, it would cause us a

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Speaker 6: lot of problems.

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Speaker 5: So that is the background.

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Speaker 6: And then actually this week, this weekend, Trump decides actually

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Speaker 6: he is going to sign an executive order and he

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Speaker 6: quietly signed one on Tuesday after Susie Wilde's crowd all

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Speaker 6: the different factions in the Whitehouse and then got everyone

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Speaker 6: to a point where they could agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what I want to talk about for

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Speaker 1: a minute. This new AI model is really dangerous. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like it's really dangerous, and it could create a

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Speaker 1: lot of opportunities for hackers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And part of the reason why Trump ended up

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Speaker 6: signing this executive order is because various AI executives came

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Speaker 6: to him and said, our models are going to.

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Speaker 5: Get more powerful.

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Speaker 6: And when they get like, this is not something that

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Speaker 6: you can just kick down the road, you know indefinitely,

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Speaker 6: you are going to have to deal with this at

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Speaker 6: some point. And so that is the reason why Trump

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Speaker 6: came round to the idea. And they made some small tweaks.

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Speaker 6: They changed the period in which the federal government gets

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Speaker 6: early access to these models before anyone else, so they

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Speaker 6: can identify the vulnerabilities. That was that was the pushfulness

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Speaker 6: is everyone realizes this is a really potentially dangerous thing.

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Speaker 1: But what's so crazy about this is like, this is

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Speaker 1: the same administration that wanted to make it so that

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Speaker 1: the States couldn't regulate AI at all.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no question this is a massive turnaround for

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Speaker 6: this administration. You know, at the start of the admin

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Speaker 6: you know, when Elon and Dog were around, the whole

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Speaker 6: thing was, Oh, we're gonna allow and we're gonna have

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Speaker 6: no regulation for AI for crypto.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But now that this is a national security concern, it

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Speaker 6: is also a political concern, right, Like Republicans are not

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Speaker 6: like and Susie Wilder is not stupid. They know that

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Speaker 6: a lot of that base do not like the concept

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Speaker 6: of AI. Commun to take that jobs, I can't imagine why.

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Speaker 6: And but saying the Democrats too, right, you know, like

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Speaker 6: across the board, this is a bipart of an issue

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Speaker 6: where voters are fearful of the effects of AI and

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Speaker 6: the data centers that are being built to support these

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Speaker 6: AI models.

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Speaker 5: And so it is in now political issue and the

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Speaker 5: White House is recognized they have to get.

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Speaker 2: Ahead of it.

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Speaker 1: One of the things of talking to you that strikes

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Speaker 1: me is that Susie Wilders is still very much running

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I think what was remarked, what was

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Speaker 6: how Susie managed to crow everyone. You know, just to

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Speaker 6: give you an example, David Sachs obviously did not want

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Speaker 6: any regulation, but Scott that's in the Treasury Secretary, and

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Speaker 6: Sean can Cross, the National Cyber Director, were at odds

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Speaker 6: on how to implement some AI and AI regulation and

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Speaker 6: they each thought they were stepping on each other's tough

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Speaker 6: Susie Wilds managed to corrowd those two groups together. She

661
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Speaker 6: aligned everyone behind herself and set it up in a

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Speaker 6: way that the only real free radical was David Sachs.

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Speaker 6: And in that world you do not want to be

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Speaker 6: David Sachs, where you are the only person pushing against Suzy.

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Speaker 5: Was because at the end of.

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Speaker 6: The day, if Susie is like, look, everyone else agrees

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Speaker 6: with the President Trump is say yes.

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Speaker 1: Well, And also David Zachs isn't even in the White

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Speaker 1: House anymore, right, Like there's a reason he's not in

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Speaker 1: the White House anymore. Now, maybe he went off to

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Speaker 1: make more money in the private sector, but maybe it's

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Speaker 1: that his fortunes in Trump world are no longer where

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Speaker 1: they were.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say his influence is probably diminished.

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Speaker 6: He still has influence and he still has Trump's number, right,

676
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Speaker 6: like evidence by the fact that he could core up

677
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Speaker 6: Trump the morning of a signing ceremony and get Trump

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Speaker 6: the next The entire thing that being said, you know,

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Speaker 6: he's a product of the dough era, and the dough

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Speaker 6: ero is no more so that is true.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the dough era, because some of

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Speaker 1: the Doge changes are how we find ourselves here. For example,

683
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Speaker 1: cutting USAID is how we find ourselves in this Bola mass. Right,

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Speaker 1: if you had had a fully staffed USAID, you would

685
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Speaker 1: have seen some of what was happening with the Bola

686
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Speaker 1: earlier than you did, because part of USAID's job was

687
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Speaker 1: to deal with early stage infections like that. So there

688
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Speaker 1: clearly has been a lot of going back and rejiggering

689
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Speaker 1: things that were cut by Elon. How much of that

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Speaker 1: is happening and is there a sense in the White

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Speaker 1: House that there's some resentment towards Elon for this or now.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if there's resentment towards Elon and something.

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Speaker 6: Elon has tried to make amends with Trump to get

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Speaker 6: back in his good graces. You know, you saw that

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Speaker 6: on the China trip, right, Elon was part of the

696
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Speaker 6: delegation that traveled with Jensen Lang in a video CEO

697
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Speaker 6: and Trump to China.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it worked?

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Speaker 6: What I will say is there are a lot of

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Speaker 6: people who have a lot of heartburn with Elon because

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Speaker 6: Elon calls him a lot more political problems than political successes, right,

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Speaker 6: just just in terms of the backlash they received from

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Speaker 6: when Doge is around, No one wants to go through

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Speaker 6: that again.

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Speaker 1: And he's very unpopular, right yeah, I mean even among Republicans,

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Speaker 1: even among you know, White House officials.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a sense that Elon is a guy

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Speaker 6: that meant well and you know, genuinely wanted to do something,

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Speaker 6: but he was so brash in the manner in which

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Speaker 6: she went about stuff that he has burned a lot

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Speaker 6: of good will inside the White House for whatever ideas

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Speaker 6: he may have next, Which is why you see you

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Speaker 6: see him not being involved in a lot of these deliberations.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's actually going through the regular Washington channels

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Speaker 6: like dough has been exercised.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of the things like when you talk

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Speaker 1: to people, they'll say sometimes that Doge there are still

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Speaker 1: Doge people working in some parts of the federal government though.

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Speaker 6: Sure, but it's not like the influences anything close to

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Speaker 6: what it was at the start of the start of

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Speaker 6: the admin. Right, It's like there are Doge people of

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Speaker 6: the Pentagon. Do they have any power to cut anything

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Speaker 6: on their eggs Pentagon?

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Speaker 5: No, of course not heggs. That's trying to increase the budget.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yeah, So what do you think

726
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is doing at this moment? Sort of like,

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Speaker 1: what do you think the priorities in this White House

728
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Speaker 1: are at.

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Speaker 5: The moment trying to get out of Iran?

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Speaker 1: And who handles that? Is that still Trump? Is that

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Speaker 1: still Jared and what? And wick Off?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You know, Steve Wickkoff and Jared Kushner are still the

734
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Speaker 6: leading points in contact with intermediaries.

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Speaker 5: And JD too.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: JD is actually, I think.

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Speaker 6: In recent weeks quietly stepped up his involvement to see

739
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Speaker 6: if he can try and land a deal, because if

740
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Speaker 6: he can, then he'll get the credit. I suppose you know,

741
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Speaker 6: I think Trump his hands off on Theran negotiations until

742
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Speaker 6: he becomes hands on in the one consistent thing we've

743
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Speaker 6: been hearing for a long time and covering the negotiations

744
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Speaker 6: is in many ways we are in a very similar

745
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Speaker 6: position as the Iranians are in. Right, the negotiators can

746
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Speaker 6: have all the talks they want, but at the end

747
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Speaker 6: of the day they still have to go back to

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Speaker 6: the ILGC and get the ILGC to sign off, because

749
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Speaker 6: those are the guys firing missiles and drones into the

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Speaker 6: straight up home moves. We have something quite similar in

751
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Speaker 6: that Jared and Wickoff can go and do whatever cash

752
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Speaker 6: for uranium or whatever negotiation they want to do, but

753
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Speaker 6: at the end of the day they have to get

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Speaker 6: the okay from Trump. And Trump keeps inserting all these

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Speaker 6: new provisions into what he wants, including most recently the

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Speaker 6: Abraham Calls, which by the way, is not going to

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Speaker 6: happen in the middle of.

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Speaker 1: Ses So basically the Abraham Accords would me and all

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Speaker 1: of these countries just talk us through what that mean,

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Speaker 1: because it is a wild possibility that will not happen,

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Speaker 1: especially right now with Israel bombing Lebanon.

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Speaker 6: To be clear, I don't think anyone knows what the

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Speaker 6: Graham accur part of this would look like because it

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Speaker 6: is so vague and Trump introduced it at such a

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Speaker 6: last minute like portion in these talks.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, the two hang ups on Iran on this.

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Speaker 6: How do how does the US ensure that we get

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Speaker 6: this stock part of highly enriched uranium which she's currently

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Speaker 6: buried under rubble inside the photo nuclear plant?

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Speaker 5: Really difficult?

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Speaker 6: Like, are we going to find a third party country,

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Speaker 6: whether like China or Russia, to like take control of

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Speaker 6: uranium and down blended or destroy it. Maybe that's probably

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Speaker 6: the most efficient option, but Trump is said, no, We're

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Speaker 6: never giving it to China or Russia. We have to

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Speaker 6: have it ourselves. In Irana said that's a non starter.

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Speaker 6: So you know there's a big gulf on that. Then

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Speaker 6: the other point is future enrichment. You know, this has

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Speaker 6: been the sticking point for decades and it is troubled

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Speaker 6: administrations going back decades. And the issue, of course is

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Speaker 6: Trump doesn't want to look like he is resuscitating parts

782
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Speaker 6: of the JCPOA, the Obama Nuclear the Office.

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Speaker 5: He has trashed it so often.

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Speaker 1: But that's the only answer.

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Speaker 5: In many ways, Yes, this.

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Speaker 1: Is like NAFTA. Though, this is like Donald Trump makes

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Speaker 1: a mistake, like he could have just kept the thing

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Speaker 1: in place. He creates a problem and then has to

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Speaker 1: solve it for himself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I would add one more layer to that, which is

792
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Speaker 6: Donald Trump sees something that Obama did, decides he doesn't

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Speaker 6: like the fact that Obama did it, and then once

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Speaker 6: through it his way and then ends up coming back

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Speaker 6: to what Obama ultimately.

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Speaker 1: Did right at best at best?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I actually right now we all was because the

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Speaker 6: straight up hoole moves is still close. We're still trying

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Speaker 6: to get back to the status quote pre war like

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Speaker 6: we are in a material disadvantaged position, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Bill POLTI, there's no fucking way this goes, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about this. He will be d

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Speaker 1: and I he is basically an online guy who Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump knows, who comes from a fancy family, who Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump likes because he was trying to do these mortgage

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Speaker 1: cases against his enemies. But I mean, already Republican senators

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Speaker 1: have on the record said like, there's no way you're

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Speaker 1: getting this guy to Senate approval.

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Speaker 6: I think he will be only nominated to go through

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Speaker 6: his Centate confirmation. I mean right now, right, he's an

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Speaker 6: acting dn I. And you know, part of the flaw

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Speaker 6: in the acting appointment process is if you have previously

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Speaker 6: been confirmed for a Senate position, like a Senate confirmed

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Speaker 6: position previously, and you can serve in another position that

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Speaker 6: requires Center confition. And that is why he is essentially

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Speaker 6: eligible to serve as acting d and I despite having

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Speaker 6: no intelligence qualifications whatsoever. And there has been some jocking

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Speaker 6: behind the scenes to get Bill Party here. It wasn't

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Speaker 6: just Trump being enamored by Bill Porty's pitch that you

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Speaker 6: know he would be a loyal DNI on like Tolci Gallox, right,

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Speaker 6: this was Roger Stone. And I also heard Howard Lutnik

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Speaker 6: pushing for Bill Party to get this job because it

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Speaker 6: serves their pupses. And also Bannon, I mean Bannon's been

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Speaker 6: not that Bannon has you know Bannon is inside the

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Speaker 6: White House, but you know Bannon has has influenced with graps, roots,

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Speaker 6: nagger and Trump's.

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Speaker 5: Base, and he's been being pushing for this for a

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Speaker 5: long time.

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Speaker 1: But if you're Susie Wilds, you see this as like

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Speaker 1: a fucking nightmare for you.

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Speaker 6: I think it depends it depends on your thesis of

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Speaker 6: what DNI does I mean in this ad and and

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Speaker 6: the dn I has been sidelined in a very massive

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Speaker 6: way from the regular intelligence process, right Like the joke

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Speaker 6: with Tulsi was when she was dn I and DNI

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Speaker 6: said we do not invite, and she was regularly sidelined

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Speaker 6: from a lot of you know, national security meetings and deliberations.

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Speaker 6: That being said, the problem with Paulty that a lot

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Speaker 6: of I think center Republicans see is they associate quite

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Speaker 6: rightlytis with all of the failed retribution criminal investigations, the

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Speaker 6: one like into Lisa Kirk, into mortgage four cases. They

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Speaker 6: were all Bill Pouty, and he would shop with Trump

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Speaker 6: with his big boards and training like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 6: miss present, we should do all these things. So Republicans,

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Speaker 6: I think in the House and Senate are pretty against

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Speaker 6: him for being in that position permanently.

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Speaker 5: But he can serve in that macting capacity for a

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Speaker 5: very long.

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Speaker 1: Time, right as we saw with acting Special government employee

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk at least right.

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Speaker 5: There, Landowski and told I mean you'll fight it.

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Speaker 1: Do you see anything else? Like we saw the seventeen

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Speaker 1: seventy six de Weaponization Fund of slush fund. So, speaking

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Speaker 1: of top lanch, top Ranch has left this. Trump cannot

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Speaker 1: ever be investigated by the IRFS, no more audits. What

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Speaker 1: do you think you think that stays?

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Speaker 5: Well, that part is stang.

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Speaker 6: That part is staying, is what we're told, because it's

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Speaker 6: all part of a settlement, right like that was that

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Speaker 6: was the outical settlement between the president and his own

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Speaker 6: justice departments.

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Speaker 5: So that was the settlement.

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Speaker 1: The settlement is that you're protected forever with a super

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Speaker 1: fancy magic ring.

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Speaker 6: Hey, well my aura ring doesn't give me those from

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Speaker 6: being audited. My sleep score is not as good as

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Speaker 6: it as it could be.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly not. It's in your circles.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I try, I try. No, No, the irs portion

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Speaker 6: is going to stay. The weaponization fund is probably not

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Speaker 6: going to stay, in large part because just Republicans are

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Speaker 6: not going to fund this, and there's been so much

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Speaker 6: other backlash from rank and file Republicans in the House

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Speaker 6: and Center that it is kind of untenable.

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Speaker 5: And also the White House to pick in the White

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Speaker 5: House has to pick and.

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Speaker 6: Choose its battles, right. They also want to get the

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Speaker 6: boreroom funding. I mean, there are a lot of legislat

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Speaker 6: priorities here at the White House wants and I think

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Speaker 6: they have to take a long hard look at this

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Speaker 6: and say, what exactly do we want to push before

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Speaker 6: the midterms when we still have these majorities, which we

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Speaker 6: may not after the midtimes. And so the webonization fund,

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Speaker 6: you know, maybe there's other ways they can get to that.

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Speaker 6: So they drop it with respect to the ballroom, that

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Speaker 6: is because it's a appropriation.

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Speaker 5: They know they have to go to Congress for that.

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Speaker 5: And so if I.

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Speaker 6: Really had to guess, and guessing is always betting is

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Speaker 6: always a terrible game in politics. But if I had

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Speaker 6: to forecast, I would say they would try and push

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Speaker 6: the boreroom funding, the security funding package, and drop the

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Speaker 6: weaponization package.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable, Donald Trump, laser focus, start affordability. Quick question, what

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Speaker 1: do you think Donald Trump is more interested in the ballroom,

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Speaker 1: the reflecting pool, the Trump Arctor Trump or Bill poult

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Speaker 1: Is d and.

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Speaker 5: I I mean probably the bare room.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, we reported drone board at the

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Speaker 6: top of the you know, and.

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Speaker 5: We reported we reported.

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Speaker 6: In in my news by that the White House sees

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Speaker 6: the security packages and must pass bill because they don't

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Speaker 6: want donuts financing the military bunker underneath the boardom.

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Speaker 1: The joke is. You'll remember that we were told that

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Speaker 1: the taxpayers would not pay for this, and now we

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Speaker 1: learned that the taxpayers must pay for this.

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Speaker 5: I guess they're being cute.

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Speaker 6: Taxpayers are not paying for the ballroom, but they are

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Speaker 6: paying for everything else, including the roof and the bunk underneath,

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Speaker 6: and the hardened windows and the hardened walls, and the

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Speaker 6: drone port and the rocket launches on the top and

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Speaker 6: the sniper nests.

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Speaker 1: Hugola, I hope you'll come back.

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Speaker 2: There's a that's fun, No Mo Jesse Cannon Bi John Fast.

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Speaker 2: Remember when the Supreme Court said Trump's tariffs were unwellful,

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Speaker 2: we thought they were over. We were very silly to think.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, this fucking guy with the goddamn tariffs, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jesus fucking Christ, nobody wants them. Everything is so expensive.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? So Trump has more tariffs, he

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Speaker 1: is going to use a more legally tested, bureaucratic process.

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Speaker 1: Who the fuck knows this comes from axios. So I'll

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Speaker 1: take it with a great assault to signal to Americans,

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Speaker 1: investors and economic watchers the tariff inflationary risk is here

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Speaker 1: to stay. By the way, risk how about it is?

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Speaker 1: On Tuesday night, US trade Representative Jamison Greer proposed fresh

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Speaker 1: tariffs on sixty economies. So this is twelve point five

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Speaker 1: percent on China, Japan, South Korea, and Brazil, and a

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Speaker 1: smaller group would have ten percent Canada, Mexico, EU and

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Speaker 1: the UK. Who the fuck knows? I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: Schrodinger's tariffs. They're on, they're off, They're on, They're off.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Here we are, ladies and gentlemen, Yet another

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Speaker 1: day of fuckery in Donald Trump's America. That's it for

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