1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and now he. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty. 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: It's the little guy. 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: That is the most interesting part of this whole tariff 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: ruling today. So the Supreme Court is ruled that Trump 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: cannot throw around all these tariffs and all these different 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: countries for a variety of reasons. And you know, a 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: lot of attention gets paid to chevy Ford whoever, Apple, 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: But I was just reading a thing in the dispatch 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: about all these little businesses, you know, and little businesses 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: are just barely squeaking by most of the time, and 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: how they couldn't order things from other countries to put 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: together whatever it is they put together because they didn't 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: know what they're going to cost, or they'd buy them, 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: and they were and then a week later they wished 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: they hadn't bought them because the tariff got dropped for 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: some reason. You know, how they would come and go 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: really fast, and just how devastating it was to try 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: to run a business like that. 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: And they don't have lobbyists, the little fellas, they don't 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: have influence and the inputs they need to manufacture in 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: the US were being heavily tariff Yeah. How many they 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: hated this policy from the beginning. 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: How many of those businesses were driven out of business 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: or really really stunted their growth over. 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: The last year. 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: Laid off a bunch of people, laid off a bunch 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 3: of people, right, yeah, yeah, I mean it two entirely 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: different questions. If China, for instance, is dumping goods on 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: us to undermine our industry, tariff the crap out of them, 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: but just all the rest of that stuff. Nah, never 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: liked it, never liked it. Ah, great takedown of Gavy 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: newsome buy of all people, Carl rote, he is a 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: skilled man. 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Touch on that a little bit later on See, well 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: you had something though, you said it was a good 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: last hour Friday thing? 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: Was that the text email thing? Yeah? Yeah, I'd like 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: to do that. And I also have Ben sass Ah, 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: who's going to be dead in a couple of weeks. 43 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: He talks very openly about it in his latest interview. 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting, but man, he said a lot 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: of interesting stuff about the structure of government and what 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: we've lost in terms of civics and stuff like that 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: He also had an interesting take on the fact that 49 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: we've all stopped having sex. So maybe, really, maybe we'll 50 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: get to that this hour. 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: Oh I'd love to hear that. Yeah, oh so much 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: to gramm in the last hour of the week. But first, 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: it's Friday tradition. Let's take a fum look back at 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: the week that was. It's cow clips of the week. 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: For we in America have no interests in being polite 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: and orderly caretakers of the West's managed decline. 57 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 5: A massive US military build up is underway in the 58 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 5: Middle East, and. 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: Now is the time for Iran to join us on 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: a path that will complete what we're doing. 61 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: Bad things will happen if it does, it would And 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: should the US actually commit US troops to defend Taiwan. 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: You know, I think that. 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: This is such a you know, I think that. 65 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: This is a yeah, we must say, just for a 66 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: writers look at the future. Our ss nice survivors had 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: found three deceased members of their group. Search teams then 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: found five more, all of them close together. 69 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: We're being given food that is low in nutrition and 70 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: high end calories, and it's making it's just our health. 71 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: How does this compare with tobacco. 72 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: It's as large, it's not larger. 73 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: Police in the United Kingdom arrested Britain's former Prince Andrew 74 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: on suspicion of misconduct. 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: I love Nicki Minaj so beautiful. His skin so beautiful, 76 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: I said, Nicky is so beautiful. Help the man's back. 77 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: Let him do his job. He's doing the right thing. 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: The cup of art are aliens real, They're real. But 79 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: I haven't seen him when he. 80 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: Gets classified information, he's not supposed to be doing everybody. 81 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: I may get him out of trouble, but he classified. 82 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: Do not despair. The cavalry is coming. Yourself. Pistols, pistos. 83 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: The script, the little been rejected as far books to 84 00:04:51,640 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: the Joy, the passion. It's clips of the week. You've 85 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: been mocking it all day. 86 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: But I'd like to get into the back and forth 87 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: between Obama and Trump about extraterrestrial life. 88 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: I will knock it, will you do it? 89 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: And what Obama said about it, So maybe we can 90 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: get to that coming up. I did want to ask 91 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: you about this since it's your wheelhouse. Oh, America's biggest 92 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: wine maker has shut down production in Napa Valley, and 93 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: it's a huge blow to the wine Heartland. To tell, 94 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Gallo announced the closure of a large Napa Valley production 95 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: facility and the elimination of jobs across two counties and 96 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: some of their other smaller companies beneath them. Yeah those label, Yeah, yeah, 97 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: they have some other more expensive boutique labies. They're also 98 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: shutting down one hundred plus jobs and Nap and Sonma counties. 99 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: This is being seen as a real blow to Saint Helena. 100 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: It's been a big industry there for a lot long time. 101 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: Gallo's also slashing staff at some of its other prestigious labels, 102 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: including the Louis M. Martini Winery and they are in 103 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: swift tasting room in Saint Helena, as well as Jane 104 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: Vineyards and Fry Ranch and Healsburg Frey. Yeah. So it 105 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: says here that it has a lot to do with 106 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: the uh people drinking less right. 107 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hadn't heard this, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 108 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Why why did drinking off that much that fast? There 109 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: are all sorts of theories about that. That's the answer 110 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: to that is an essay that includes several different theories. 111 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: You know, number one der more into smoking pot or 112 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: vaithan their THHC or whatever. There's also the thought. And 113 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: I found this so persuasive. 114 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: I can't remember if it was Peggy Noonan or or 115 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: somebody wrote it. And I just came across a piece 116 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: of thinking slash writing that tended to substantiate it. Young 117 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: are terrified by being out of control, by taking chances, 118 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: by taking risks, by calling for a pizza, by asking 119 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: a girl out or asking a boy out, and and 120 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: the idea of a little bit of loss of control 121 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: is just too scary to them. 122 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: Mice, I don't, I don't know. 123 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: There's a couple of new restaurants that opened up in 124 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: my college town and both of them are kiosk. Only 125 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't get to order with a human being, 126 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: which I hate. I just I'd rather walk up there 127 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: and say, you know, give me a double cheeseburger and onions. 128 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: They tell me how much it is, I tap my watch, 129 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: I walk away. I don't like scrolling through the screen 130 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: now of it. I said, I wonder why that is, 131 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: and my son said, it's because of the young people 132 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: that don't want to have to talk to anybody. Wow, 133 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: They're more likely to go to the restaurant that's got 134 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: the kiosk. 135 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: And I thought, Wow. 136 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Is that true that it's it's a noticeable enough number 137 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: of people that you would put a kiosk in your 138 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: restaurant because you know a lot of your customers don't 139 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: want to have to walk up and say to someone, 140 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: I'll take the number three. 141 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: Wow. 142 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we don't have time for It's true, that 143 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: is wow. 144 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: We've already mentioned more than we can get to this hour. 145 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: But Arthur Brooks, who I quoted the other day about 146 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: happiness and the study of happiness, he wrote a great 147 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: piece why are young people choosing only fans over love? 148 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: The answer, I believe is fear, and he makes the 149 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: case that it's just too uncertain for the modern anxiety 150 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: prone veal Calf to take a chance to roll the 151 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: dice anyway. Uh yeah, yeah, I wonder. I don't know, 152 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 3: but yeah, the wine that I just I happen to 153 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: be at the Single Malt Scotch Society I belonged to 154 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: last night and they mentioned that I can't remember, it's 155 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: one out of five distilleries in Scotland is in severe 156 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: financial difficulty. 157 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: I'll be damned. 158 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: It's the Western world. We're not having babies, we're not 159 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: having sex, we're not getting our drink on. 160 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: Strange times, maybe it is the right time for AI 161 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: to come along and you don't have to go to 162 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: work and you just sit in your house and look 163 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: at porn and smart smoke pot. 164 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: I'm so glad I was born when I was. 165 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like I'd enjoyable life to me. 166 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: But like I said the other day, I'll bet there's 167 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of people that would check 168 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: the yes box for what I just described. Yeah, I wouldn't. 169 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: That sounds awful to me, but I'll bet a majority 170 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: would a bit of more. Jority said that you don't 171 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: have to smoke pot, but uh, sit in my house, 172 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: watch porn, play video games, smoke, drink whatever. 173 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: No job, Yeah, where do I sign up? 174 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be damn yikes. I worry for humanity. 175 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of the not having sex, one of the smartest 176 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: people ever in government, Ben sass talking about that in 177 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: the final weeks of his life, among other things on 178 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: the way. So, I don't have a sense of how 179 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: many of y'all know who Senator Ben Sass is. I 180 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: almost said, was he's still alive? He who's a favorite 181 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: of our show. He's a favorite of lots of conservatives. 182 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: He Nebraska senator, super smart guy, came in young, highly educated. 183 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: It your elite universities, but with conservative principles and you know, 184 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: classic liberal views of the world. 185 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: I would add wise reasonable kind. 186 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, all kinds of good. 187 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: We've played lots of clips of his speeches throughout the years, 188 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: and he left government to go and run be president 189 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: of Florida. 190 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: University of Florida. Is that the one he chose? 191 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was he at Nebraska. I can't remember. 192 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: He's dying. He got diagnosed right before Christmas with stage 193 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: four pancrea attic cancer and given thirty days to have 194 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: it's been more than thirty days and he's still alive. 195 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: He's on some experimental new chemo thing that they're trying, 196 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: and he said he looks like he might get ninety 197 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: days instead of the thirty days, and he's about halfway 198 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: through that. But he did a long interview yesterday. It 199 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: was really really interesting. I tweeted it out and we 200 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: can put it at Armstrong in getty dot com. 201 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: It's worth it listening. 202 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: To and if the cancer stuffs too, have you skipped 203 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: that and just listen to him talk about government? 204 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 205 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: I wish everybody in government, even people that didn't doesn't 206 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: don't agree with him, if they could talk about it 207 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: in that way, with a very principled, reasonable, grown up 208 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: kind of the way I picture the Founders discussing things 209 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: way of talking about government. 210 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: God, there are not many people like that. 211 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: As he said, we got a whole bunch of people 212 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: in Congress that want to be TikTok stars, not legislators. 213 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if the folks who don't approach it 214 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: in a Sassian style were to be honest, they'd say, guys, 215 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: there's too much money at stake to be gentlemanly. It's 216 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: all about money. Now. We've let the government get so big, 217 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: there's so much money flowing through it. Well, I can't 218 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: compromise and be like a founding father. I got to 219 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: be like a money grubbing hoe. 220 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: It's also just plain interesting to listen to a smart 221 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: guy who knows he's going to be dead really really 222 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: soon talk about lots of things, including looking back over 223 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: his life and thinking he got the work life balance 224 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: wrong thing in his twenties and thirties, and then he 225 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: was on the road too much and really really regrets 226 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: doing that, which is interesting, but I couldn't recommend this 227 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: interview more highly. He's got a podcast he's starting. 228 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: Here in like a week or so. Cheez. He doesn't 229 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: have many weeks left. 230 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: But with some friends that it was in the work 231 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: before he got diagnosed, so they're just staying on track 232 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: and he's going to be part of the podcasttil he's gone. 233 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: But he got into the topic of. 234 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: Changes in AI in social media and all these different 235 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: sorts of things in the Internet, and what's that done 236 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: to society and is it making it better or worse? 237 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: Or can we survive it? And a lot of the 238 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: conversations we've had on the show over and over again, 239 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: what uh, you know, what's Ayai going to do for us? Anyway, 240 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: this is where it went. 241 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 6: Like people ask me all the time when I was 242 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 6: still on the speaker's circuit. Is the digital revolution going 243 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 6: to bring heaven? Or is the digital revolution going to 244 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 6: bring hell? Yes, the only right answer is it's going 245 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 6: to bring everything humans do faster, the good stuff more 246 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 6: of it faster, the bad stuff more of it faster. 247 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 6: But you would never think that the digital revolution would 248 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 6: cause a collapse in sex. 249 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 3: But we know what's happening. There's almost no sex in America. 250 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 6: There's less premital sex, there's less marital sex, there's less 251 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 6: extra marital sex. The only increase in sex is like, 252 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 6: there's some seventy year old rich dudes who have viagra 253 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 6: who have a tick more sex. But in general, there's 254 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 6: a crap ton less sex everywhere in American life. And 255 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 6: it's because a porn revolution has made it way easier 256 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 6: for people to be satisfied, not really, but to be 257 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 6: short term satisfied without having to go through all the 258 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 6: work of having communion in relationship with another human who 259 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 6: is annoying and so like, sex is great, and the 260 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 6: digital revolution has created something that has made us all 261 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 6: bored by sex. 262 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: That's weird, no kidding. And the point of this conversation 263 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: isn't just about sex. I don't think that was his point. 264 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: It said, you take something as amazing as sex, and 265 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: you can drive that impulse out of people with what 266 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: he calls the digital revolution than anything's on the table. 267 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: Obviously. 268 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny, he struck me. I've been 269 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: so busy dressing up Ben sas in a try corner 270 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: hat and a powdered wig, and the rest of it 271 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: is worthy of the founding fathers. I forgot how likable 272 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: he was and is uh yeah, for instance, the use 273 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: of the term crapt on it. Yeah, everything more and faster. 274 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: But if the desire for sex can be driven out 275 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: of us by getting enough of whatever from the internet. 276 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: Then empty calories. As I've been arguing for every. 277 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: Long, absolutely everything's on the table. 278 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Everything, desire to work, desire to love, desire to desire. 279 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: To desire to leave our homes. This is everything was 280 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,359 Speaker 2: obviously next. 281 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: You don't breathe anymore because you're on a website that 282 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: shows people breathing, and people just die. It's too much trouble. 283 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: So I just watch other people breathe on breathe talk, 284 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: and they turn blow and keel over breathe talk. 285 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Where to God, it's just such a good example because 286 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: if that can happen, anything can happen. 287 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: You wouldn't have to go back very many years. 288 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: And if you said to somebody, I'm going to invent 289 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: something that's gonna make people not want to have sex anymore, and. 290 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: Be like, what in the male would that possibly be? 291 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: Or I guess even there's gonna be a cultural change 292 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: where people no longer desire. 293 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: Sex not possible, certainly for men. 294 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: But apparently eighteen year old men will not be looking 295 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: for a beer, not be looking for a girl. 296 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: They won't even have any interest in it. And I'll think, 297 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: what the hell happened? You know, what I was in 298 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: the water supply, what war happened? What RADIOACA pulses were unleashed? 299 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: Michael Hanson, Just because I really like Ben Sass and 300 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna be gone soon, I want that last thing 301 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: that's weird as a drop for the rest of our 302 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: time doing this show, just a he'd be bittersweet, A 303 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: little tip of the cap to the guy, because that 304 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: is weird. 305 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: That's weird. 306 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: Speaking of weird, do you actually want to talk about 307 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: the space aliens thing? I do? All right, all right, 308 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: I do. 309 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: Well because it's one of the few things I've changed 310 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: my mind on big topics I've changed my mind on 311 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: in my lifetime, and I've completely changed my mind on 312 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: this topic. 313 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: And it's not just that shiny objects fascinate you over 314 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: here over here. 315 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: Well, okay, Trump and Obama both talking about space aliens 316 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: within forty eight hours, among other things, Armstrong and Getty. 317 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: That'd be incredible. 318 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean this is you know, I grew 319 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 7: up and I was, you know, watching like the X Files. Now, 320 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 7: if he's going to release all the X files, I mean, 321 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 7: I think that could be a bipartisan thing to finally 322 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 7: realize what's happening. So for me, now, if President Trump 323 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 7: is going to release everything, I think that's that's fantastic 324 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 7: because I think America, I think in the world would 325 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 7: deserve if such. 326 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: Senator Fetterman of Pennsylvania responding to the news that Trump's 327 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: gonna un classify some documents around Area fifty one or 328 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: aliens or some bs UFOs, How did the bruce is 329 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: out there? Who started this? So did Obama started on 330 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: the podcast the other day and then Trump responded to it? 331 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: Or did Trump? But no, it doesn't know that. 332 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Oh, I don't know. 333 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: I'm into this story, big picture, into it because it's 334 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: one of the few things I've changed my mind on 335 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: in my life. 336 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: But this part of it's dumb. 337 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: But anyway, here's a rundown of what's happened in the 338 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: last couple of days. 339 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: The president is accusing former President Barack Obama of revealing 340 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: classified information when he told a podcaster aliens are real. 341 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: Here's that Obama comment, and then President Trump responding to 342 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: Peter Doucey today, are aliens real? 343 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 8: H they're real, but I haven't seen them. And and 344 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 8: they're not being kept in what is it? Fifty one? 345 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 8: There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and 346 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 8: they hit it from the President of the United States 347 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 8: when he. 348 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: Gave class and right information, he's not suppressed to be 349 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: doing that. 350 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: Aliens they're real. 351 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they're real or not. 352 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: I can tell you he gave class about information he's 353 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: not suppressed to be doing that. Well, he made it 354 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: big for sake, he took it out of class or 355 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 4: bad information. 356 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't have an opinion on it. 357 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: I never talked about it. 358 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: A lot of people do a lot of people believe it. 359 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 2: Do you believe it? 360 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: Well? At the President can declassify anything that he wants. 361 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 4: Tophet, I may get him out of trouble by declassify it. 362 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: So before we get to the real conversation about this, 363 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: because the is there life on anywhere else in the 364 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: universe but on planet Earth is an interesting question, of course. Yeah, 365 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: this conversation is stupid. What was Barack Obama? 366 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: What was it? 367 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: What was he doing there? What was he Why did 368 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: he say that? 369 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: I just responded to a question. He said, yeah, they're 370 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: probably life out there, but I haven't seen him, and no, 371 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: we don't have him. 372 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: He didn't say probably, he said there are so there 373 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: are aliens, just not they're not an Area fifty one. 374 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: Why'd you say are. 375 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: You don't know? 376 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: I felt like he was working too hard to pretend 377 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: he'd never heard of Area fifty one, practicing for sort 378 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: of a Candae Owen style show, maybe something in the future. 379 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: That was a good start, Yeah, and then just asking questions. 380 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: And then Trump's thing was just a shot at Obama, right, 381 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: trying to make him uncomfortable with the whole he released 382 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: classified information. 383 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: Or whatever, having been on the receiving end of some 384 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: good law. Fair right. Yeah. 385 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't believe for a nano second that our government 386 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: has any information about intelligent life in the universe that 387 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: they're keeping a secret. Why would they keep it a secret? 388 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, I don't believe that. I'm not concerned about 389 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: that in the least. 390 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm certain that there are what do we call 391 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: them these days? Uaes or something like that, but they 392 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: have nothing to do with the space alience. There are 393 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 3: foreign governments, our own experimental craft, stuff like that, and 394 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm one satisfied with that explanation. 395 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: My whole life up until a couple of years ago, 396 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: though I was a very smugly because you know, you 397 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: got to do everything smugly, very smugly. Of course, there's 398 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: life elsewhere in the universe. Only a Poltroon Neanderthal would 399 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: think otherwise. With the number of planets and stars there 400 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: are out there. I've completely switched gears, though I'm leaning 401 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: way more toward there is no other life anywhere else 402 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: out there in the universe, just based on a lot 403 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: of reading and scientists I've listened to over the last 404 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: couple of years and everything like that, and basically the 405 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: Fermi paradox, which is, it's a tough one to get around. 406 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: It's a tough one to get around, the idea that. 407 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: Takes one to know one. 408 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: It's very close. Then where are they? Is the Fermi paradox. 409 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: And one of the great physicist thinkers of all time 410 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: who once said that sitting around at lunch table with 411 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of other brilliant thinkers, Well, then where are they? 412 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: If there ever has been over the span of time 413 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: intelligent life come to be somewhere, How's there never been 414 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: a blip of noise sign whatsoever. My argument with Fermi, 415 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: which wouldn't last long because he'd look at me like 416 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: I look at goldfish, I would say, well, it's it's 417 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: extremely unlikely. But the universe is vast, and not only 418 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: where are they, but when were they? So you got 419 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: them over there on Zuotron thirty six five million years ago. 420 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 3: No, we don't have any idea that it happened. I don't. 421 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: I'm agnostic on the question, be fascinated by it, but 422 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I will ever have enough information 423 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: to come to a firm opinion. 424 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: That is one of the things. 425 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: The span of time is so long, And if you 426 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: are of the belief that intelligent life would far though 427 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: the same trajectory as intelligent life did here on Earth, 428 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: it's going to destroy itself. It's going to destroy its 429 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: own planet or themselves with weapons or ruining the planet 430 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: so you can no longer support the life or whatever. 431 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: So there get wiped out by a disease, right, Oh yeah, exactly, 432 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: or a damn the meteor. 433 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: But Earth's been around for four billion years. The blip 434 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: of time that intelligent life has existed is not even 435 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: measurable really over four billion years, so we could we 436 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: could kill ourselves off within the next one thousand years. 437 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna last that long, but the 438 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: next one thousand years, it would be a blip in time, 439 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: and that could have happened on some other planet. The 440 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: universe is thirteen point eight billion years old, I think 441 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: is the right number. Intelligent life and all these other 442 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: planets could have happened billion years ago, five billion years ago, 443 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: eight billion years ago and burn itself out and there'd 444 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: be no sign of it. 445 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, Well one of my favorite ones for 446 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 3: me right or wrong then? Or is it a question 447 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 3: of like I was saying, not only where are they 448 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: but when were they in? 449 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: Well, it just seems hard to imagine that if there 450 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: was intelligent life, if it's if it's one of my 451 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: favorite thinkers on this says, if it's anywhere, if it's anywhere, 452 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: if if we ever prove it's anywhere, it's everywhere, I mean, 453 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: if it goes from it ain't anywhere else, and it's 454 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: some unique thing that happened here, whether it's believing God 455 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: or just the right things came together or whatever, or 456 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: if you ever discovered anywhere else, well then it's everywhere. 457 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's all over the place. Not everywhere, literally, 458 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: but so much of it out there. Because obviously these 459 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: circumstances are replicable, they can be replicated. 460 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: Uh, you would think there would have been. 461 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: Some beeps or blips out there from space travel or 462 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: sending out signals or whatever that we would. 463 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: Have picked up on, and we never have. 464 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: And we've got an ability to reach a really really 465 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: long way with some very very sensitive. 466 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: Equipment and have never picked up a tiny anything. We 467 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: also don't have the slightest idea yet. 468 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Why life started, how it started, what caused it to start? 469 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: Nothing yet. 470 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: And to our believers who are shouting at the radio, Okay, great, 471 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: I'll concede what you're shouting at the radio. But by 472 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: what biochemical processes did the Almighty get her done? You 473 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: can still answer that and still believe in God if 474 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: you you know, are of that bent. 475 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: Remember when Shatner went into space not as James Tiberius Kirk, 476 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: but as William Shatner, the ninety year old actor he 477 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: went up in one of the rockets recently? 478 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: Was that one of the origin I think, yeah, yeah, 479 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 3: Do we have that clip that we never played a 480 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: Shatner from early in the week, Michael, he was making 481 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: fun of Treky's never got to that. But Bill Shatner 482 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: one foot in space, one in the grave, he would 483 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: like that joke, by the way. 484 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: He would. 485 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: He's an astronaut, just like Katy Perry. Maybe we should 486 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: ask Katy Perry about this, But I remember I thought 487 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: it was interesting when he went up there. 488 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: He just said it was just so. 489 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: Cold and dead. 490 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, if your view of there is no life 491 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: anywhere else, it's almost hard to wrap your head around 492 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: everything just being a dry, lifeless rock for all of eternity. 493 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: Once you leave planet Earth, it's a terrifying notion, it 494 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: really is. If you're like heading into it, I'd be like, 495 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: can I go home? All right? Yeah, let's hear the 496 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: great Bill Shatner. 497 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 7: There's so much going on in New York Comic coom. 498 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: He's coming back this year, which means for seven hoole days, 499 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: New York will be known as the city that Never 500 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: sleeps with anyone. 501 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 2: Do we have any Trekkies here Duna. 502 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 7: All the die hard truckies speak Klingon, And for those 503 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 7: of you who don't know, Klingon is a language you 504 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 7: speak when you want people to know you're a virgin. 505 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: Wow, it sounds like he's forty years old. Maybe that's 506 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: why I just looked up he's ninety four. 507 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: He doesn't have it. 508 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: He ordered no kidding or whatever he encountered on one 509 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: of his space travels. Everybody's always about him getting the 510 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: space gun in from all the hotties that he hooked 511 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: up with. 512 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: Haanging that green girl. I think she gave him some 513 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: sort of special, you know, a green girl love potion. 514 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: And what he was ninety four. 515 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: Biden hasn't sounded like that since he was sixty four. Yeah, 516 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: that's in that wild sound. He doesn't sound the least 517 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: bit old. He sounds exactly like he sounded on a 518 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six episode of Star Trek. 519 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: Good gracious, he's beaten the clock somehow. He's he may 520 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: be immortal. 521 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: We need to start stop looking for a life and 522 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: other planets and try to figure out why William Shatner's 523 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: the whole. 524 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: Mom to youth so well it doesn't age. Yeah, that's 525 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: a big question. I'm curious to hear forty seven Michael, 526 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 3: is this from the movie or no, this is from 527 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: UH news report. 528 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: Well, we made it myself and everyone who participated in 529 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 5: it hoped that it would set the stage for a 530 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 5: sitting president to tell the world we're not alone in 531 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 5: the universe and begin the disclosure process. And here we 532 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 5: are just three months after the film came out. 533 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: So couldn't couldn't be more pleased? Okay, that's Dan Farrow 534 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 3: is the producer of the alien movie Age of Disclosure, 535 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: trying to get somebody to rent hit or something running our. 536 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: Attention to it. 537 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that this is true, but it 538 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: sounds like it could be true. Does the anti god, 539 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: anti religion crowd really really want there to be life 540 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: on other planets because it makes it so much more difficult? 541 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: Gosh, I don't know. 542 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't know either. 543 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: That could be, but my reason for believing that we 544 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: are the only life is not for religious reasons. Although 545 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 1: if it turns out we are the only place that 546 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: life has developed, you really got to wrap your head 547 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: around that. 548 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: I mean, why, what's going on there? 549 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: That's weird? 550 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: I agree, Ben SaaS, that is weird. I would I. 551 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: Would think God would want to diversify, though, diversify and 552 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: buy the dip and you know, all the other conventional was, 553 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm going to start three planets and 554 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: you know, tweak that one along. 555 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: You're right, which even if you go with were God's 556 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: chosen planet in the universe? 557 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: Why why only why on the Earth? What's the point there? 558 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a theological answer for it, 559 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: but the fine, the thought plickens. All right, one more 560 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: forty one for me. I wanted to the basics of 561 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: what Obama said, Are aliens real? 562 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 8: Uh, they're real, but I haven't seen them and and 563 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 8: and they're not being kept in uh fifty one, there's 564 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 8: no underground. 565 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just stayed well exactly. 566 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: I don't believe for an fing minute. 567 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: I think that's why got gums flapping. 568 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: Is him just stating, well, the real like obviously, I 569 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen the pictures, I've I've attended an 570 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: alien autopsy. Barack Obama's also full of crap. 571 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: I just think he's he also you know what, honestly, 572 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: he's got a really good sense of humor. Yeah, if 573 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: he was not so sanctomonious, he'd be a pretty likable guy. 574 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 3: I think he was just trying to be provocative with 575 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: some wacky podcasters. And I am not constantly amused by 576 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: talking space aliens. Like the rest of the meeting, I'm 577 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: not either, except in the you know, the more cerebral 578 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: way we've been knocking it around here. Yeah. 579 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: And then always the thing that Stephen Hawking pointed out 580 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: that if we do believe there's intelligent life out there, 581 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: why are we like raising our hands up, putting out beacons. 582 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: Hey we're over here. 583 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: Anybody powerful enough to travel through space, you're clearly more 584 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: advanced than us. 585 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: We're over here. 586 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: Ry twitre like fat little pigs that you can slaughter 587 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: to eat or or keep his pets. Come investigate us. 588 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: What an idiotic thing to do. Yeah, I'd say that's 589 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: like the Incas had called out to the Spaniards, Hey, 590 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: we got so much gold over here. What are you 591 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: waiting for? 592 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: Women everywhere? Come on over enjoy yourself. 593 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: No immunity to smallpox, by the way, Yeah, they probably 594 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't have thrown that. 595 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: Oh God, we'll finish strong next. So the Supreme Court 596 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: shot down Trump's ability to wage tariff wars on every 597 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: country on Earth. One hundred and twenty four billion dollars 598 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: worth of tariffs were paid, varieties of directions. How that 599 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: all turns out or what goes on with that, nobody 600 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: knows really well. 601 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: And who truly paid the tariffs is another lay of 602 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: a complication. 603 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: He just told reporters the Supreme Court ruling is a disgrace, 604 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: and he's about snot and he's about to hold a 605 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: briefing at the White House and take questions about it. 606 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: And I expect him to unleash some serious, serious venom 607 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: toward the six justices that voted for it. 608 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: I expect him to be sober and restrained in his comments. 609 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: Oh there you go. Yeah, that'll be jazzy. 610 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: Can you imagine being President of the United States, so 611 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: one of your biggest economic policies get shot down by 612 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. You got to figure out how to 613 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: deal with that and massage it and talk to the 614 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: people and behind the scenes and what at the same 615 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: time being updated by Pete Hegzeth and whoever else about 616 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: the aircraft carriers almost in place, sir, for the war 617 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: you're about to launch. While you're getting ready for the 618 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: State of the Union address on Tuesday. 619 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: I just I don't know how anybody does it without 620 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: dropping dead. 621 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: And now final. 622 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: Pulps with Armstrong and getting engage. 623 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: There you go, well reference there one of your bastard treks, 624 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: your ladder generation tracks. 625 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. 626 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. 627 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: There is Michael Angelo to lead us off my call. 628 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: Final thought. Yeah, Jack, I've been thinking about your birthday 629 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: and you eating cake. I got an idea. 630 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 5: You sit down, you eat an entire cake, you make 631 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 5: yourself sick basically, and then you never want to touch 632 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: it again. 633 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: It's like the smoking a pack of cigarettes principle. 634 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: Exactly, have your cake and puke it too. Katie Greener 635 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 3: Esteemed the Newest Woman, has a final thought. 636 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: Katie, mind the long. 637 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: Sorry puk talk around a pregnant lady is a bad idea. Sorry, No, 638 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: that's all right, Uh Jack, eat the cake. 639 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: Eat a piece of damn cake for your birthday. That's 640 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: my final one. I mean to know right now, Jack, 641 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 2: final thought for us. Yeah. 642 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: Tip of the cap to the women's hockey team who 643 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: beat Canada for the gold medal yesterday. Just the joy 644 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: they had and the skating around with the American flag 645 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: and then the everybody's singing together the national anthem on 646 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: the podium. 647 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 2: That was freaking awesome. We need way more of that. 648 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: Loved it. 649 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: Way to go ladies, way to push around and cannuck 650 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: your girls. 651 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: Too, and the celebrating American being proud to represent the 652 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: United States. 653 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 3: My final thought, woo you boo goo. Correct, you don't 654 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: know what we're talking about. Listen to the show via 655 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: podcast The Whole Show, Armstrong and Getty on demand Dan Show. 656 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 3: You know, at some point, maybe next week, we got 657 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: to talk about how the text line is vastly more 658 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 3: negative than the email. That is the ease of shooting 659 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 3: off hatred versus having to take a minute and write 660 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: in our email address type it in whatever. I don't know, eh, 661 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: doesn't the text seem more flippant than email? I feel 662 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 3: like if I have a serious conversation I have with somebody, 663 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 3: I emailed them. Yeah. True. 664 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Geeddy wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. 665 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: What did Marshall. 666 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: Mclun say The media is the message or something like that. Anyway, 667 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: so many people, thanks for a little time. Good to 668 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Geddy dot com. Chromp's note over the weekend. 669 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 3: If you see something we really ought to be talking about, 670 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 3: go ahead and send it along mail bag at Armstrong 671 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: and Getty dot com. Pickups Mangy Swag. 672 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: Will we be a wartime show come Monday? 673 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: We'll see then, God bless America. 674 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 2: We sell right and the Ways escape with Jo. 675 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: We gotta go your tail. It's so sad, but to booo. 676 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: Go on, Who's he's a com? 677 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty