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I appreciate it. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.040 Share it with your people. Let's get to it. Boutle 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.800 care Podcasts. We got Conway the motherfucking Machine, Ladies and gentlemen. Yes, 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.039 it's good, yo, man. I gotta thank you because you 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.840 pulled up on me last night. You're in l A. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.960 You know, we'll talk about what you're doing in l 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.560 a little bit later, but you in l A and uh, 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:39.160 you played me to your albums, the Shady Records debut, 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.880 which is which is you know to be determined? When 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.640 that when when the rest of the world hears that 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.360 they're not going to be disappointed by the way. Uh, 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.320 and then you're a new project that is, you know, 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:57.880 ship a little bit for everybody on there. Man. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.919 like I say, Man, know, I purposely try to like 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.440 go outside of you know what people like my fans 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.279 may expect coming from me, because I put out a 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.440 lot of tapes that's just like you know, I be 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:15.240 on my just super grimy rap bag, and I'd be 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.040 wanting to just keep my my same chemistry, my same formula. 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.480 But like Damren during Alchemists, you know, yeah, but I 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.240 fucked with some you know, some different producers I never 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.880 worked with, like Havoc, you know what I'm saying. And 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.800 you got Havoc out on the hook too. I have 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.920 it on the hook. So I wanted to defend Eric Simon, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:38.520 my deep Eric Simon on there and you know my 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.200 man treasy heat. You know, I'm becoming a man through 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.520 like this Instagram that's the change record and that beat 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.920 is crazy. Yeah. So I just try to, you know 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.919 what I'm saying, try to go with my approach a 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:55.160 little different, that's all, but it's still the same, same, 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.400 same machine, same you know. The bars is pressure, you 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.560 know what I'm saying, And I'm happy with him, man, 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.360 I love it. I think it's some of my best ship. Yo. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:10.080 It's incredible, and I think that what makes you you. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.960 You had a great reference yesterday when we were in 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:16.560 the studio talking. I'll let you break it down. When 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:22.040 you think of Griselda as a human body like you, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.440 you said, Gun is the brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we's 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.800 Danny is the muscle. I forget what you said, daring 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.760 respiratory system, but you're the heart. Yeah. I put the 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.200 emotion in it, you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:39.839 musically I put I put you know, just that feel 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.880 that that you know what I mean. You listen on 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.880 my ship, if you it's like if you know, you know, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.320 and if you know that should have make like the 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.279 hair on the back of your next stand up. You 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.359 get goose bumps listening to my ship facts what I'm saying, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.320 and I just feel like Darren, j'all call, I'm like 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:57.560 the respiratory system because like that production and that you know, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.480 that's the sound. So that's like, that's the what broke 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.440 you know, that was the breath, that was the oxygen 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.119 and to make it all work. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.200 The brain and the heart ain't gonna work without oxygen, 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.280 you know what I'm saying. I look at it like that, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.240 and I'm just thankful for them doors. And so when 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:20.400 we're talking, like, uh, you being so like you be 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.440 in the heart of the crew, and I feel like, 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.120 what would makes what people people relate to you? Like 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.280 you said, it's that pain in your music, bro, And 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.520 what made you want to be put yourself out there 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.680 and be so vulnerable on records? Because a lot because 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.880 like you're obviously you know, you talk about the other ship, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.840 the street ship, the coke shit, all that shit. But 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.440 you also I think you're you're vulnerable in a way 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.280 that not a lot of artists allow their fans in on. 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:48.920 Like you know, there's not a lot of people who 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:53.240 talk in deepthly about personal life and experience. Like what 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.800 made you make that decision? I don't know, man. I 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.440 think it was a part of, like, you know, the 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.040 rehab that I had to put myself through after when 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.520 I got shot, right, I'm saying, I had to overcome 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.640 like a lot of like to get my confidence back up, 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.720 to get my you know, I didn't even you know, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.360 I didn't even want to leave a house and all 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.040 type of shit like my parents. I just wasn't comfortable 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.240 with my parents at that time, and I just had 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.560 to you know, move different and think different. And I think, 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.760 you know what I'm saying, what helped me being able 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:31.200 to deal with you know that that uh you know, 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.080 being you know, depressed and all that shit over over 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.120 my parents and shit. I think I had to just 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.680 kind of like I think, being more honest and being 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.600 more transparent and my music kind of helped me open 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.000 up almost like there was like a burden lift off 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.640 your shoulder, like just be free. I don't remember which 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.000 record this was Conway, because I listened to so many 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:57.560 songs last night. But when we talk about you speaking 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.280 about your demons and your experiences and shit, you were 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:07.400 talking about your drinking problem right right on cue as 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.199 I'm taking a sip, right and now, I mean, look 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:12.640 at the end of the day, like we all got 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.920 our fucking demons, right, Like, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.440 do you do you consider yourself someone who's like an 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:25.559 alcoholic at all? Yes? Yes, I'm I consider myself an alcoholic, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.880 you know what I'm saying, functioning of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.160 I mean like I don't know. I feel like it's 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.400 levels to that word like you know what I'm saying, 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.680 Like I ain't. I've seen some alcoholics that just turning 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.400 on like bombs and like win no whinyl, you know 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.600 what I'm saying. But I do you know, I enjoy 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.280 a nice cocktail with dinner, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.439 Or cord I'm in a store, I'm definitely gonna let 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.880 me back off a bottle of douce or something. You 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.160 know what I'm saying. Has that how you always have been? 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.760 Or was that something? Because obviously, like you said, man, 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.280 like you got shot, you come out of the hospital. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.240 You I can only imagine how hard it is to 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.520 like like you said, like you being able to talk 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.360 about it in your music it helped you like feel 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.120 free and shit. But I can imagine, you know, going 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.280 through some shit like that. That's gotta be like like 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.000 you gotta, like, like you said, depression is involved, Like 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.559 did you resort to like alcohol to help you get 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.920 through some of that shit? Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.400 you know what I'm saying. I used to I used to, 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:36.040 like I said, like for me, like I would be 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.839 drinking and shit to try to, like so I can 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.520 keep shit off my mind, not be thinking about the 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.120 shit that I'll be depressed about it, like a lot 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.719 of things that you know, I've been going through over 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.000 the last couple of years, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:55.240 So I just like like hide behind a bottle kinda 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.880 know what I'm saying. But I've been able to you 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.440 know what I'm saying. The best thing you could do 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.440 is just face shit, you know what I'm saying. They 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.880 add on like sometimes you just gotta look look shit 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.400 and look your demons in the eyes, like you know 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.199 what I'm saying. That's how you get get past them ships, 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:13.920 get over them shits, you know what I'm saying. And 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:19.080 so out. You know, I definitely, uh, you know what 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.480 i mean, gravitated to to the to the liquor and 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.400 shit a little more than usual, you know what I'm saying, 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.360 because it was like I just didn't want to think 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:30.280 about I just wanted to forget everything and just you 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.560 know what i mean, like just have fun, just be 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.199 a fun like because it's funny, like you know what 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.280 I'm saying. Like a lot of people like if they 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.160 don't know me or that never been around me, they 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.600 be thinking like like I'm like, I'm screw facing them more. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.600 I'm like, you know, yeah, yeah, they be looking at 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.800 you crazy if they don't know your story or like 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.880 they think, yeah, I'm just like I'm on ship, Like 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.800 I'm just this big this mean you know what I'm 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:58.319 saying bad dudes. So I try to, like, you know 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.920 what I'm saying, drink and joke around and stuff kind 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.840 of like the you know what I'm saying to you know, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.560 lighten the mood, so to speak. But like I said, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.400 like behind closed doors and shit, like, man, it's a 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.960 lot man, personally, it's a lot professionally. It's something now 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.640 that you're kind of known for it. And on one 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.760 of the records that I heard last night, you had said, 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.480 like I wonder if essentially if you never got shot, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.679 never had ball the Bell's palsy, would there still be 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.960 murals of you on walls and all that shit. So 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:35.600 it's like, obviously it's a personal, you know, situation that 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.400 you're dealing with, but I think you also recognize that, 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.320 like it's a part of your hip hop character now, 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:46.400 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, absolutely, I definitely accept it. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.880 And and and wear it. You know what I'm saying, 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.960 more prideful, like more you know what I'm saying, more 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.600 comfortable with you know what I'm saying. The bell's pausey 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.280 and shit, and I do realize. I feel like everything 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.800 that come from as a blessing, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.480 So God don't make mistakes. God don't make mistakes. So 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.120 this was I feel like maybe this was the blessing 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.600 that I needed because like around the time, like when 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.520 I got shot, like I was, I was, I was 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.880 moving different. I really wasn't taking music serious, you know 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.199 what I'm saying, Like we was outside, you know what 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.280 I'm saying. So I feel like, you know what I mean. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.040 Sometimes I think about it like that, like damn, I 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.319 feel like God just did that, you know what I mean, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.880 like almost almost like as a signal, like look, man, 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.360 like this, you got so much got you so gifted, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.280 you got so much potential and so much ahead of you, 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.480 but you ain't taking a shit serious. So you know 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.520 what I'm you know what I mean? Life like that. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:45.480 It's crazy too because probably your your verse that you're 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:50.480 most famous for, the cow right, Yeah, that specific record 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.079 when you talk about your boy getting shot and how 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.079 it was almost like a blessing that you didn't know 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.439 who did it because you could have winning. You would 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.880 have obviously went and gotten revenge. What if and you 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.720 wouldn't have been sitting here right because I mean, or 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.079 you might have been, but you know what I'm saying, 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.360 it's almost like you said, like God, don't make mistakes 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.280 like yo, like like you're in this position now now 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.000 they gotta mention you top five. You know what I'm saying, 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.280 right right? You know what I mean? Things could have 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.280 won a lot definitely and been a lot worse. So 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.760 that was another thing that helped me kind of overcome, 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.040 like you know, be on some ship. Like man, what 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.720 I'm tripping for? Like I'm still alive, you know what 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.000 I'm saying. I'm still gonna got money. I could still rap, 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.520 I can still talk, I can still walk, I could 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.280 still fuck before for the show, you know what I mean? 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.880 When I got to be you know what I'm saying, 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.000 what did Uh? I was at the Noble tonight, the 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:51.080 whole was there and uh when when you got off stage, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.080 you guys had a conversation after you did the cow right, 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.240 what was that short? You know exchange between you two 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.440 was it? It was pretty much like about that, like 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.400 just like man, like, you know what I'm saying, be 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.040 proud of like how far you made it, and like 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.480 where the ship you're doing and where you taking it 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.520 to like nigga, you you see what you're doing out here? Yeah, 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.320 let them tears out, let them shit fall, you know 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.280 what I'm saying. And and and really just asking me 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.120 about after that. We were just really talking about, uh, 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:25.200 that that song I did it Overdose. He was just like, Yo, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.640 what's that song you did? Like three songs back? That 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.680 shit crazy? You know what I'm saying? That uh shit 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.880 out there with Alchemists called Overdose. We were just talking 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.760 about that. But it was just really just letting me know, 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.160 like and it was just I needed to hear that 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.400 from somebody like him, like man like, because I had 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.040 broke down on stage and shit lying and all that, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.880 like you know what I mean, I don't be knowing 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.680 how to like suppress that shit. Man. Sometimes it just 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.520 be it has to come out because I've been out, 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.720 like lashed out at somebody. It had just going to 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.480 come out in some other way, some other way, a 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.600 negative way. Possibly. Yeah, that's why I appreciated hearing that 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.160 from him, Like, man, don't don't don't don't hold that in, bro, 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.240 don't hold it in. Like let that out, man, that's 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.160 real ship, Like, let that ship out, Man, don't worry 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.760 about that. You know. What's crazy is as as as 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.000 like as much as that verse like penetrating my soul. Bro, 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:28.720 Like you got some new ship that is crazy, as 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.960 far as like the pain ship. Like man, man, you 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.760 was playing some ship last night that was real, real deep. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.560 You know. I feel like like you you you were 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.680 saying you were like, Yo, there's so much stuff that 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.120 like like you've been through a lot, bro, Your your 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.920 life is crazy as far as just like a lot 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.800 of tragedies that you had to deal with. Yeah, you 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.840 know what I'm saying. People close to you, you know 0:16:55.840 --> 0:17:00.720 what I'm saying, ship like that you almost dyeing yourself 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.320 and then even just kind of seeing like how hip 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.960 hop we've lost a lot of people recently, Pop smoke, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:12.119 rest in peace. You know what I'm saying. Wow, And 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.640 you're somebody who actually was like really involved with shit, 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:25.199 right have you had a hard time with you know, 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.480 you're moving around different cities shit like that, Like do 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.360 you ever like I don't know if you got problems 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.240 in the streets or whatever, but do you ever like 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.080 Biggie was super paranoid, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.280 you heard it in his music, Like when you like like, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.199 do you ever find yourself looking over your shoulder like 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.920 or just being like can you ever just relax being 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.639 conway now that you're you know what I'm saying, with 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:55.639 the life you've lived, honestly, No, Like no, I tried to, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.160 like I'm gonna keep it a thousand like I tried. 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.920 I tried being on that type of time like chilling 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.520 and relaxing, like I don't have no problems like in 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.520 the streets, like no beed like you know what I mean, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.199 I don't be on that type of time. I was 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.040 one of them dudes. That's why a lot of people 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.080 in my city like niggas that's in the streets and 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.320 shiit like that kind of like like respect how and 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.439 move like and look up to me, because like I 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.320 was one of them dudes that put all that shit 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.520 on the back seat. That shit took a back seat 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.480 to this music shit. I like, after I got shot, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.680 I realized, like you know what I mean like this 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.800 shit ain't ain't it ain't what it is. I even 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.280 I went broke, you know what I'm saying, and all 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.840 I wasn't hustling. I went broke, and I was just 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.840 like because I'm like, I'm not going back in the 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.560 hood like I'm chilling. I'm over here Darrens your house, 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:47.239 recording and just working on my craft, getting better at 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.879 rapping because I was still kind of like trying to 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.560 find my lane because I couldn't really like when my 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.080 jaw couldn't really open my ship that well, I was 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.720 like your way to rest, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.920 So I'm still getting myself together, but at the same time, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.920 I already had my mind made up like like this ship, 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:10.480 the streets, even the streets everything, Like when you're making sacrifices, man, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.879 like everything gotta if you want something bad enough, sometimes 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:18.000 you gotta make like some difficult sacrifices man, like you know, 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:23.520 ship time, where my family, my kids? Of course, yeah, 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.320 that's what anything being broke. I tell the home low 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.119 homies all the time, like sometimes you got to learn 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.160 how to be broken bored sometimes, like niggas be broken, 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.600 niggas be boring. Niggas go outside, they end up fucking 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.159 doing some dumb shit because yep, sometimes you gotta know 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:43.560 how to just like man broke one out, you know 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.399 what I'm saying. But back to what you're saying, Like 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:50.480 you know, I try to to you know, remove that 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.639 that that street paranoise of knowing, because I know how 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.879 the streets is. The streets is nasty, especially like for 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:01.359 rappers like niggas in this like niggas, rappers ain't safe 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.000 just because you're a rapper like you, you know, there's 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.479 somebody in that city who you know, you might get 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.080 caught slipping. Like, Bro, I got robbed. I got robbed 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.120 in Atlanta. Bro, this is the this is the first 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.239 day of the first uh that tour that ended at 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.560 the Noble. The first show was in Atlanta. I'm leaving 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.639 them all, nigga, nigga call me lacking, you know what 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.200 I'm saying. Snatched the door open, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.080 But I just charged that ship to the game because 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.200 I know how sometimes you gotta you gotta learn when 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:31.520 to take the l like you know what I'm saying, Well, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:35.240 you know, but but that's what it is. So now 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.359 that paranoia is back. Now. You know what I'm saying. 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.720 I gotta have you know what I mean, A fifty 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.800 clip on the A yo, not not for nothing. When 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.080 that kind of shit happens to you the raide, you feel, Yeah, 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.040 I got the feeling too comfortable, man, because I'm the 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.920 type of nigga like I have no fears or nothing 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.360 of nobody like you feel me like, I know, God, 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:58.399 all the ship I've been through, if I could get 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.760 through that, nigga, I ain't worried about no nig or 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.119 nothing happening to me. So I'll be everywhere by myself. 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.200 You see how I pull up here? Yeah? Me, you 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.840 know what I'm saying, Chad, that's it, That's it. I 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.159 don't really move with a gang. I don't have no fears, 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:13.960 and I'm like, you know what I mean, I got 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.120 lost in that comfort zone. So now you know I'm back. 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:22.240 You know what I man, I'm back, yok situated. We 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:27.119 was talking about how you guys kind of have have 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.040 lived through so many eras of hip hop right and 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:31.680 that there was a point in time that one O 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.480 six and park ship like where you where you might 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.440 not have been necessarily making the music. We know you 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:41.399 for making at the moment, I'm curious, like the Griselda sound, 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:46.960 you and Gun at at what point in time do 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:51.920 you feel like you guys figured that out where you 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.760 guys were like, yeah, this is like because it obviously 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.920 wasn't off the rip like when you guys felt like 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.800 you guys was pocket it was off the rep. But 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.960 we we we we got we got blinded. Like most 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:09.119 rappers are trying to chase hit what's popping? And you 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.080 know what I mean, what's something? What we think people 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:12.560 going like like this is what they want to hear 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:17.600 popping some bottles stand, you know what I'm saying. So 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:19.960 we kind of, you know what i mean, deviated. But 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.600 the funny thing is is like we are family, but 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:27.840 it ain't like we never really like joint forces like 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.280 like that until like later on in life far as 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.639 like being a group or a label, you know what 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:38.960 I'm saying. So everybody was individually doing their own thing, 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.080 you know what I'm saying, Like Benny was doing him 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.320 I was doing making music and doing what I'm doing 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:46.800 with and West was was you know what I'm saying. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.280 He lived down south, he lived in Atlanta, and he 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:53.159 was like you know, working around like in the streets, 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:54.680 he was, you know, west to tell you like he 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:56.720 wasn't doing the rapper time and none of that ship 0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:58.920 you know what I'm saying. But we all family, and 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.480 he loves hip hop, like you know, he's just you know, 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.280 probably your biggest hip hop fan, just a lover of 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:09.000 hip hop. So he will always just be around because 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.000 knowing how good I am and then how good Benny getting, 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.240 you know what I'm saying, So he would always be. 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.760 But he wouldn't rap in the ciphers. He wouldn't get 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.680 on the records. He wouldn't He wasn't thinking about that. 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.560 But you know, you know after the you know that 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.600 after we we kind of figured that back out, like 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.000 you know, after I got shot, you know what I'm saying, 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:34.320 and west Side kind of like jumped in the driver's 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.200 seat like, yo, I gotta kind of you know what 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:41.000 I'm saying, I gotta, you know, cause it looked like 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.560 for a minute like I'm you know, I was paralyzed 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.000 from the neck down, like almost some shit like that happens. 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.240 You're like it was over, Yeah, it's over, Like this 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.440 nigga Sam took bro out, you know what I'm saying, 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.920 shot this nigga his head and his neck. This nigga 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.440 peralyanin this nigga the wheelchair can't even move his jaw, 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.639 you know what I mean. So it's like West. That's 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.120 when West start doing like the hill where her Mas one. 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.840 And then by the time Part two came out, I 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:08.560 mustered up like one verse on there. I think, I think, 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:12.399 is that your first verse after getting shot? Yeah? Okay, 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:16.240 well not after getting shot, but my first verse. Like 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.400 for like Griselda Records, Chazelda Records wasn't even a thing 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:26.440 when we did Hitler two. Oh, the first actual Griselda record. 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.760 When we thought of it, it was hauling the haul 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.640 of nash Ep. Okay, I'm saying, like, Yo, this's gonna 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:33.920 be the you know what I'm saying, It's gonna be 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:35.520 the first tape we're gonna call this ship what you 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:37.280 you know what I mean. I remember the phone called 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.679 a conversation like what you think about calling ship Griselda Records. 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.639 You know what I'm saying. This would be the first tape, 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.439 you know what I mean, off the off, the off 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.720 the label, and it just grew from there, you know 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.119 what I'm saying, Yo, it's crazy. Like I think with 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.600 gun Man. Guns got one of the best minds I've 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:58.680 ever seen in the in the game, the guys just 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.159 like like you were saying, like he's just he's just 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:07.080 a visionary. Is there a fireless he's yeah, man like 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.440 and and too like y'all. You know he gonna do 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.400 if you want to do something, he said, he's gonna 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.280 do it and bring it to life. And and you 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.520 guys never ever ever, like Man, I just feel like 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.640 you guys have never pivoted away from like why why 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.359 why you're here? Yeah, which is which is hard to do. 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:25.680 To do what got you here? You know what I'm saying, 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:27.560 Keep doing what got you to where you're at. Man, 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.240 you don't try to don't deviate. But it's like you said, 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.080 it's hard. It's hard to do. And that's kind of 0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:35.679 going back to like different King to a God album. 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:37.840 That's kind of what I was trying to like steer 0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.359 away from, Like I don't want to. I want to, 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:45.199 you know, differentiate myself from like this project, from all 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.920 the other projects I dropped. But I don't want to 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.600 sound like I'm on some corny ship, right Like you're 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.520 trying too hard. You know, it don't sound like that 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.920 at all, not for sure. By the way, I think 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.600 my favorite line on there is you said the only 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.720 thing you need a bitch for is herd that it was, 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:07.399 So that's pretty much shit, y'o. What's crazy too is 0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.760 when you you got a record and you and Fred 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.640 are kind of developing a cool little chemistry on records. 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:18.040 This song on this album caught me off guard because 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:19.240 when I saw you pull it out, I was like, 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:23.840 oh shit, Gibs Conway was definitely different than what I 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.479 was expected. Talk about y'all's because I saw y'all out 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.840 in Miami together, but talk about y'all's chemistry, and like, 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:35.320 you know, I feel like Griselda Fred, you know Black Thought, 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:37.760 you know, run the Jewel. I feel like there's some 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:39.720 Jedis in the game, you know what I'm saying. It's 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.560 like there's the Jedi Club. Royce is one of them, 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.760 you know what I'm saying. But you and Fred, like 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.040 I feel like between Fred and Grisel the album putting 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:49.880 out the best hip hop music for the last couple 0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:55.720 of years. What's y'all's relationship and like, you know, that 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.680 chemistry has been wild on records so far, and it 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.440 took a wow for the for the record too, wow 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.680 for y'all to work together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.120 mean give that's my nigga, like Gibbs my nigga. Man, 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:08.920 you know what I'm saying. I got love with Giz. 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.639 Like every time I ever, you know, been around that 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.680 nigga or whatever, it's like it's love show and vice versa. 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.399 Like anytime he come around me, I try to, you 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.719 know what I'm saying, show the utmost love and respect 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.440 because I respect his craft and I just respect it. 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.080 You know the type of nigga he is, you know 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.359 what I'm saying. I went on tour with Gibs, so 0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.720 I gotta kind of be a little got a little 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.040 closer with him, you know what I'm saying, and to 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.000 be around him a little more than I have in 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.960 the past, and I just got to see what type 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.680 of duty is and you know, I fuck with the nigga, 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:41.840 you know what I'm saying. And so it was only 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.719 right like we we always even before like this record 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.879 the Babies and Fools off his tape and shit like that, 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.840 like we've always talked and kicked it and about doing songs, 0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.120 doing the record, doing the tape. Yeah, we gotta let's 0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.040 do a tape. If y'all did a tape, that should 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:03.639 be crazytly exactly so. But you know what I mean, 0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.719 it just you know what what, I'm one of them 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.000 type of niggas. Everything ain't about rat shit all the 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:10.920 time to me, So like if I hit you, I 0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.560 ain't all the time, like yo, I got a joint 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.720 for you, Yo, Yo, I want you to I need 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.080 I need a worse bro. I need this, Like I 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.399 don't care about that rat shit all the time. Sometimes 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.959 I just be genuinely just tapping in, like what up, 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:24.960 bro with you? What you want you? Guys? Gonna ask you? 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.320 Because I feel like in hip hop, I mean especially y'all, man, 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:33.119 Like you know, there's there's like very few actual friends 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.480 you'll make in the hip hop business. Absolutely tons of acquaintances, 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.360 tons of people who you wrap up and you know 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.640 what I'm saying, you'll see it shows, you'll see it evanced, 0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.000 but like actual friends that like if your rap career 0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:50.440 went away tomorrow, that y'all would actually still be boys. 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:55.200 Like who's on that list for you? If anybody the 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.320 list is short, I'm gonna be honest with you. Of 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.560 course it is this just short cause you know what 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.560 I mean, Like you got to keep in mindment a 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.200 lot of these niggas caps, so they're just sometimes they 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.840 say ship, you know, because it sounds good because you 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.440 ran into it. Yeah, you know what I mean. You 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.840 had a nigga and the nigga don't even answer you 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:17.120 trakes back, but tried to say, you know, resting peace Prodigy. 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.040 That was probably the prategy was early with y'all. Mo. Yeah, 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.040 you know what I'm saying, like resting peace to my 0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:28.240 boy Prodigy. Man, that was my real friend. Ray Kwan 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.680 did the intro in the BRAZILA. That's my real friend. 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.760 I like to consider us like real friends. Royce the 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:40.080 five nine, for sure, that's my brother. Like always love, 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.880 always love. You know what I'm saying, outside of any 0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.239 rap ship, like you know what I mean. I look 0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.480 at it like we two of the Ellis lyricists. Man, 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.080 you know what I mean, we only got you know, 0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.320 one of two or three songs like because it ain't 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:56.600 about rap, it's genuine love. Flee Lord, that's my brother. 0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.960 I remember what which project we heard? The Flee Ship, 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.680 He snapped on that ship though, Yeah, yeah, flee when 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.880 flees on from Kings to a God? Okay, was that 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.400 that ship would have it? Yeah? Yeah, that's right, you 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.920 have it. Action Brons in the Court. I fun with 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:17.040 act Mayhem, Lorn those like bro friends of mines. You 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.560 know what I'm saying. Yo, this is more. But I 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.800 can't think right right right right, So if you didn't 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.240 get named, don't be infected. Right, I'm gonna get a text. 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.520 Damn broll. You don't fuck with me like that. Yeah, 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:33.720 I just I don't even high right now, baby, something 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.240 that I don't know if we're gonna be able to 0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.480 put out or not. But you're in l a helping 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.920 You were helping Kanye write some ship. Yeah, I'm doing 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.960 a little ghost you know, collaboration this man. I'm just 0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.320 you know, I'm in a room for the for the 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.680 for the vibe man and the inspiration. Yeah, all other 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.960 Kanye shipped aside. He's one of the greatest artists of 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.760 all time. Uh. And I'm curious how did the relationship 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.440 with you and like, how did you end up in 0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.200 that discuss somebody else that I forgot that I can 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.120 saider Kanye like a real friend. You and Kanye you 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.360 would consider him a friend absolutely, You've been around him recently, 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:13.480 how do you feel like, is he like good? It's 0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:19.200 like he in good spirits, Like he's in good spirits. 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.600 But it's like, see, I don't know because I had 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:25.400 I didn't know him prior, prior to what people would 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:29.360 say him changing and going, you know, going left, you 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.760 know what I'm saying. So I don't know. But just 0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.880 me being around him, man, I know it's hard. I know. 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.600 I know. I said that on Twitter at the other day. 0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.000 I'm like, Yo, he got a good heart, right he 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.880 you know he mean, well, I'm gonna be just totally 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.640 one thousand percent honest. I feel like he just need 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.200 you know, some better, some better guys in his circle. 0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.960 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I saw somebody say like, Yo, man, 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.200 like some better dudes. Sometimes you gotta gotta listen and 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.480 respect them dudes. And you know what, it's all that 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.920 they telling you signing because they love you, doing this 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:04.920 because they love you, you know what I'm saying. But 0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.880 I just hate to see like the all the jokes 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:09.800 and the you know what I mean, the social media 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.120 ridicule man or my brother man, because like, you know 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.600 what I'm saying. He going through some things, man, you 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.800 know what I'm saying, and we all go through it 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.640 in life. And of course I'm not, you know, trying 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.200 to condone or make no excuses and ship for him. 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.520 But I love that man, and I'm you know what 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.200 I mean. It's like when I got love for people, 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.520 even if I don't know you or whatever, like I 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:32.800 just love everybody. I got more love in my heart 0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.120 and didn't hate. So like I'm not here to tear 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:37.960 and tear a nigga down and tell him what he 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.040 can't do or you crazy, you tripping like when he 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.480 now I was, I was, you know what I'm saying 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.080 on the wrench when he you know, he called me 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.040 and Siha was in the studio. He's like, yo, I 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.560 just check the Twitter. I'm just running for president. You 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.560 were in Wyoming right when I got that. But then 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:59.800 I start seeing like Twitter, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.240 you know, just the ridicule and all that making fun 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:04.840 of that man, and I just look at it like 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.640 that's our problem man in the community, Like we we 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.320 too quick to tear tear somebody down. Then it kind 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.040 of build them up. I don't give a fuck niggas say, man, 0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.280 I'm mother, man, build me a house on the moon. 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.400 I'll be like, I know that shit gonna be flying. 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.680 Bro Hell yeah, do that shit. I'm just one of 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.120 them type of niggas. I ain't negative, like tearing nobody down. Ye, 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.520 how did that initial like connection happen? Because I do like, look, 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:29.600 Kanye keeps you know, he got pushed around, and we 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:30.920 got sit high around, and we got some of the 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:34.640 greatest lyricists of all time around him. But like you specifically, 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.720 how did that relationship start. Did he reach out his 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.480 people reach out it was I really don't know if 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:45.000 it was like he reached out or whatever. But I 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:49.600 just remember this was that Sunday after our show at 0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.959 the novel last show with a tour, which was right 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.400 before everything shut down, right before that's really my show 0:33:56.520 --> 0:34:00.520 was March seventh, yep, March eighth. We went to Sunday 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.560 service that morning. I remember that, Yeah, I remember, and 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.920 he seen us in the crowd, look like, oh, you 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.920 know what I mean. So after this joint, you know 0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:12.400 what I mean, he bring us in the back of 0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.520 the ship or whatever, and we just sitting there and 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.600 Kanye he's a real sporadic like you know, you know 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.759 dude like that. Like he was just like, you know what, man, 0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:23.680 we need to go to Cobbo and just record all 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:25.600 this energy right now. I looked in the crowd. I 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.640 sent y'all there, you know what I mean, like we 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:29.520 just need to all just get on the jet just 0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.560 go to Cabbo, you know what I mean. Mean and 0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.560 Benny looking at each other like ship nigga. We we 0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:40.839 got warrants, you know what I mean. So we ended 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.840 up going We literally ended up going to Wyoming the 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.680 next morning. So the next morning, so tour ends, sore ends, 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.840 next morning, we go to Sunday service. Next morning we 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:58.080 flying to Wyoming. Wow, you Benny gun was gunn out there. Yeah, 0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:02.160 he came like because I remember he had like a 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.920 meeting with with with guys. Some other hadn't met us 0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.080 out there, but me and Benny was already out there, y'all. 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.320 So let me ask you this, like y'all over some 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:15.440 First of all, obviously you're helping him with with with 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.000 with creating records, but is there gonna be any sort 0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.120 of I don't know if it's is there is there 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.880 any Kanye records where you or Benny are on the 0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.200 record with him that exists, not saying they're ever gonna 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:36.520 come out. I mean you went to Wyoming. I don't know. 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:41.279 I'm gonna get a phone call soon, man, but I'm 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:46.720 gonna keep it a hunted. There's one that's that's a record. 0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:51.000 Benny's not on it, but I was in the room. 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.200 I'm with the nigga. You show me and he like, 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:57.640 y'all like, I want to just keep your verse on 0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.560 there and west to one and then I do the 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:06.160 third verse type. Shit. Yo, it's wild because like, you know, shit, 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.359 that Wyoming thing is real, Like you know, Push came 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.799 out of the other side of Wyoming with Daytona. Yeah. 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.840 Was there something about being in the middle of nowhere 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.239 like that that was inspiring your creative process because you 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.800 know that shit is in the middle of nowhere like 0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.719 Jackson Hole or wherever it is, man, because it's so 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.520 peace and tranquil, right, so peaceful and tranquil man that 0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.160 you just ain't got no time to do nothing, but 0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.200 kind of your mind has kind of opened up, you 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:38.960 know what I'm saying. So, yeah, man, it's inspiring, especially 0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.800 just to being you know, you know, Initially, it's just 0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.719 you got to get over the nerves of like, you know, 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.920 it's Kanye right, Like you know what I'm saying, Like 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.719 we in the same you know what I mean, Like 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.320 you Kanye West, I mean, were sitting there like that. 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.640 So you know, I still look at it like I'm 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.880 an upcoming nigga in the game. So there's moments like that, 0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.440 I'll be on my leg. Oh man, you've had a 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.480 few of those. First day, it was kind of like 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.239 I was kind of like I had a bad game 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:09.000 if we talking sports terms, Okay, But the next day 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.400 I did like maybe like two or three songs. And 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.279 the next day, the more comfortable I got, the more 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.880 you know what I'm saying, because it's like it's different 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:22.360 atmosphere than the type of studio atmosphere used to. You 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.440 know what I'm like, There's no cussing, ain't nobody costing, 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.359 ain't no smoking, no drinking or none of that. It's 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.520 world just it's good energy though, it's great energy. Like 0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.960 were you on your Jesus ship when you was rapping? Yeah, okay, yeah, 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.319 so he took you to a different place because I'm like, yo, 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.520 you you on that you talk that talk. You know 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.239 what I'm saying. Nah, Nah, you know what I'm saying. 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.600 I kind of just I found a way to kind 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:47.200 of just make it like to where I was just 0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.360 thankful for even having a second chance at life and 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.600 be in this position because you know, Hick, like I said, 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.279 could have when left, I could have died when I 0:37:55.360 --> 0:38:00.400 got shot. So I just you know, talked about those 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:04.080 times were like, you know, I feel like God was 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.919 there for me. I mean, you guys have had am 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:13.839 with obviously you guys do the shady situation. Yeah, hove, now, yay, 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.640 I'll be damned if the Buffalo Boys ain't he ain't 0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:22.759 on or something. Right. This shit is crazy when you 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.919 let me let me ask you something. Because my son 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:31.319 is My son is h He's fourteen, and he's got 0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.719 the weirdest taste in hip hop, like he loves like 0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.439 the young ignorant shit. But Eminem is his favorite rapper. 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:42.840 That's crazy my son too, right, Yeah, And and I 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.800 was like, you know, my kid listens to anything I 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.920 play in the car and I played the you know, 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.719 I maybe seven eight months ago, was had the Bang 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:58.000 remix on, right, and obviously Eminem hopping on one of 0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:01.000 your joints, even though being signed to him is a 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:07.240 big deal. What is like your approach as an MC 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.239 if you know now and I don't even know if 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:14.000 you've recorded a song knowing necessarily when you recorded it 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.400 that and was gonna end up on it, but like 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.279 when you know someone like that, it's gonna be on 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:22.759 the record. Now, you've been on records with Buster, I mean, 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:24.879 you've been on records with the Who's who? This shit 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.399 so my like and sometimes you record a record I'm 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.399 sure and later on be like, you know what, let's 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:31.920 try to get this person on it. But when you're 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.840 approaching a record where you know there's and mind you, 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.680 your squad is all killers, but like one of them 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:43.360 legendary Mount Rushmore names, do you approach like it's almost 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.560 like I feel like it's almost like we're talking basketball, 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.640 like being clutch in the fourth quarter, you know what 0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.480 I'm saying, Like the pressure is on, Like it's absolutely man. Oh, 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.839 I mean I handle it pretty well. I just look 0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.080 at it like shit, there can't be no worse than 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:02.160 being in a getting on ship with Benny and West 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:06.319 Facts and I got with them too. I gotta make 0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.160 sure I'm on my I can't let off the gas pedal, 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:11.400 so like I look at it like that, you know 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.040 what I mean. I'm just like a I'm an animal man, 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:17.040 I got animal instinct. Man, I'm trying to I can't 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.080 buy no shape or form be the nigga that I got. 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.719 The Whackers verse on the song, like, I don't care 0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:26.120 who I'm on a song with. I gotta if they 0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.600 ain't saying Conway killed it the hardest. I feel like 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.960 you failed. That was a verse for me. Speaking of verses, 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.360 I saw you the other day. Complex put out the 0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:40.239 Best Verses of the Year list, right, and I watched 0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:42.919 the Fire in the Booth freestyle once a week at least. 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.040 That ship, to me is the best verse of the year. Now, 0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:50.640 mind you, it is on a freestyle, but god damn, Like, 0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.319 do you still feel like you like because I mean 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:56.880 like like you had a reason to complain, because I 0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:02.400 feel like you know you are else complaining. Yeah, But 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.759 do you feel like you're still slept on sometimes? Yeah? 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.360 Which is crazy to think. Yeah, And it just you know, 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.520 I just I understand, man. It just comes from you 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.360 know where we're from. You know what I'm saying. I 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.800 just feel like if we was from like one of 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:20.320 the Burroughs or something, or a big name city, like 0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:23.560 we would get a little more like love from you know, 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:27.160 our peers and you know some of the gatekeepers before 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.680 us and shit like that. You know what I'm saying, 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.359 But it really ain't fair to say because so that's 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:34.719 why I don't really say that shit too much no more, 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:38.000 because like, man, you do the work, you get, you 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.840 get noticed. Man to work, gonna speak for yourself. So 0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.239 I don't want to look like I'm just like on 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.600 like like I'm like I'm Brady or something like, man, 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:48.920 ain't talking about me, you know what I mean. But 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:51.920 like I'm just I'm just I'm so confident in my 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.879 in my craft dog that I know, ain't nobody show 0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.359 me listen. It's like when Nigga, like when I see 0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.320 like the list, which I agree like a lot a 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.960 lot of those verses on that agree with I definitely 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.800 agree with, but like there's no way, you know what 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.120 I'm saying. Some of the verses, I don't put out 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.200 this year alone. You know what I'm saying. I don't 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:15.600 put out probably the most output of music this year alone. 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.440 You can't tell me not one of my ships was 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:23.480 a top verse of the year. But if you know 0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.279 it is what it is, everybody got there on a pane? 0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.200 Or is that firing the break? Is that firing? The 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.480 booth verse gonna end up on an actual song because 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.239 I hate that I have to put it up on 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.600 YouTube every time a piece of it dead. Okay, so 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:41.400 it did ended up on on on flea album album 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.960 almost Fleet put out this year. It was on there. 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.759 But yeah, but like that verse, I feel like the 0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:52.680 second verse of the front Lines joint, it was crazy, 0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:54.960 you know what I'm saying, Like the way I just 0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.640 addressed the whole climate right now with the social ingest. Yeah, 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.759 I told you that last night. I told you that 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:06.400 last night, that Jim Jones record, that Jim Jones versus too, Like, 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.120 you know what I'm saying. But you know, people can't. 0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.759 I can't judge with them here or that's true. So 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:18.080 let me ask you this when when with the emergence 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.560 of Benny right over the last two years, Benny went 0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:26.439 from being like, you know, like y'all homie who would 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:28.400 come along and rap kind of like what like rick 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.080 rick Ricky Hyde is now no, that's her cousin right 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:35.360 shout out to Rick, and now he's emerging as like 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:41.600 a star in his own right. Does that like, like 0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:46.200 I wonder between all three of y'all, man, because Gun 0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:49.840 put out Pray for Paris, which is a classic. You know, 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.160 you guys have all had your share of timeless music. 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:59.600 How is the competition within the crew? Like, is it like, yo, fam, 0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:03.120 I you know, I got you on that ship. Yeah, honestly, 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.360 Tito's back, I got y'all on that ship. Yeah honestly, 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:15.000 it really ain't. No, like like we're not competing like 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:19.000 we ain't. It's not on the outside. I'm sure devenside 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.080 niggas like I'm about to kill I gotta kill Bennie 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.239 on this right right my body. I know con we're 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:27.000 gonna come. I'm about to kill this nigga. I'm sure 0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:33.200 inside it's a competitive you know what I mean? Fun competition, fun, yeah, no, 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:37.960 friendly all that. Yeah, of course, family, we really champion 0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:41.080 each other and just like we just like salute like yeah, no, 0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:42.800 that shit is crazy, you know what I mean. I 0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.080 think that's what's unique about y'all is like even if 0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.719 you I mean, you know, like I remember the first 0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:49.719 time I watched the show documentary when I was a 0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:51.960 kid and I saw that Wu Tang didn't get along 0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:54.719 like Method Man and you guys were fighting on the documentary, 0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:56.960 and I was like, wait what I fore like we 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.759 old was a little more praise for being able to 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.480 put when I watch that ship like niggas shooting at 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.920 each other in our carp and ship like Residue was 0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:09.239 able to move. For dude, all that give us an 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:16.240 ill him. We alls a huge debt of gratitude. That's facts. 0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.560 But I feel like that's unique about y'all. It's like, 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.719 no matter what we know, when when we look at 0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.680 that at whoever's album it is, there's gonna be at 0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:27.800 least that one that's got all three y'all on it. 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:32.680 And you know the ship you played me last night, 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:36.560 which which ailme is the Spurs record on three is 0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:39.080 from King to a God. Yeah that ship is crazy. 0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.400 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that's one of the ones 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.200 where it's just like I said, like when we all together, 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:48.160 it's like, you know what I'm saying, Lebron Wade and 0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:52.800 Bosh some ship like that we just and that that 0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.440 that friendly competition that's burning in the inside all of 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.399 us want to be able to have the flyest ship 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.759 on the joint. I think that's what makes when we 0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:06.920 do it all together, make it best, even with Darringer 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:10.720 because Darner and the competition too, like deep down the side, 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.880 like I can't have a wacky ship on the album. 0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.600 I gotta come with it, come with some Craig and 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.800 all three of them morning, I gotta kill you know 0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:21.879 what I mean? Ship like that? But like I said, man, 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:27.120 I think that's you know, we just all like niggas 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:30.319 being family player huge role too. We just love love 0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:33.560 everything that we do and push each other, like when 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.720 it was Benny turned like you said, last two years 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.080 like me and you know me and bro like Noah, 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.080 go ahead, Benny, Like if you look at all our 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.319 freestyles and shit like that, I'll be like, yo, Benny, 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:46.000 let me here, man, me give what you got, Benny, 0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:47.480 you know what I mean? And ship like that like 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.560 it was Benny Turner like let's go Benny. Y y'all 0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.400 y'all heard up, like y ain't heard nothing yet, Benny 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:57.080 get him type shit. So we do it. We do 0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.800 it like that. Man, I ain't I could. I ain't know. 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:02.800 I ain't no sucker like that, Like I want to 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:08.280 everyone win Win Eat. The result of album was crazy. Obviously, 0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.120 that was like such a big deal because you guys, 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:12.600 I mean technically, I feel like you guys are on 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:16.200 Shady for so long, but that was the official first release. 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:18.600 I think you guys got to have one of the 0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.320 illess deals in hip hop because you guys are getting 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:24.560 your indie shit off all day, but then when it's time, okay, 0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:28.280 you know you could do both, which I cannot imagine 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.640 a lot of people have that kind of freedom to 0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:33.439 run up their indie catalog all the meanwhile being signed 0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:38.200 to you know, Eminem. Yeah, Paul, I feel like Paul was. 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.960 You know, it's generous when it come to that. You 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:44.160 know what I'm saying, Like I ain't trying to get 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.040 in y'all way or nothing, you know what I'm saying. 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:47.480 We just want to be a part of what y'all 0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:50.360 got going on, right, But I just felt like, you know, 0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:55.320 they Shady couldn't be really a part of none of 0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.919 that shit because you know, the samples and all that shit, 0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:02.400 Like our sound is based off like if you was, 0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.160 if you're a Day one Griselda fan, you know that 0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:09.279 our sound is based off like Dander doing immaculate sampling 0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:11.800 and ship like that, Like our beats it is so 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.239 dark and dusty and that incredible. Yeah, you know what 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.359 I'm saying. That's how we was able to change kind 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.600 of change the game and shift the culture back to 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:22.359 like you hear a lot of where it is getting 0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.880 alchemist beats and fucking you know what I mean, like 0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:29.640 that dam just sounding beats because we kind of shifted 0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:33.400 that shitn't but that ship we was doing. We couldn't 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.920 paul them one ship trying to get all them samples cleared. 0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.239 Fucking with that ship. But I think about the whole 0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:44.799 Y'll up with your shady debut. Whenever it comes out, 0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.799 is it gonna be mostly sample free? I mean, yeah, yeah, 0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:53.839 it's about It's probably about eighty five percent sample free, 0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:56.759 like a lot of them beats you ship you heard, 0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.120 I ain't had no samples. I heard the record that 0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.600 you You played the record that Wayne was on. Mm hmm. 0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:11.080 Now you got Wayne to like Wayne was you know, 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:13.239 way knew what it was when he got on the record. 0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:15.640 I'll just say that shout out to Wayne. Was that 0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:17.560 a record like we just talked about, Was that like 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:19.839 one of those records where you knew Wayne was getting 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:23.840 on it when you cut it. Actually, no, no, I 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:27.160 had already. I had already made that joint. I had 0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.680 already recorded, but I didn't finish it. It was just 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:35.759 like the verse was on my verse and I had 0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.200 I think, Yo, Wayne has sent me to the Russian 0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.920 Roulette joint. Well his album Me and Benny know, Me 0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:48.160 and Bennie on his album Russian Roulette ship and sent 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:51.240 that ship back and whatever, and you know in the podcast. 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.759 Then we did the podcast his you know radio shit, 0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:58.799 and you know what I mean. He he was like, man, y'all, man, 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:01.520 I appreciate saw man. Y'all never need me for anything. 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:03.640 Send it through. Y'all got signed to send it through. 0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:08.200 I said, oh yeah, don't tell me that. Yeah, send 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:11.000 you something. I'll send it right now. And I sent 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.200 it through. You know, shout out my nigga Mac Maine, Man, 0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:17.040 my nigga Mac Main. Good dude, man, that shit happened. Man, 0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:20.080 that's my dog right there. And shout out to Wayne Man. 0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:22.400 That niggas incredible. We did most shit too. I got 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:24.960 in the studio with them niggas on Miami and we 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.160 did some more. There's some other ship on a hard 0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:31.080 drive somewhere. Man, Wayne got something crazy. That's a fact. 0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.239 Talk about your relationship with KD. Man, KD, I feel 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:39.200 like has always had such an amazing taste in hip hop. 0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.560 That's the first thing I told him. Actually, I tapped 0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:43.840 him up because I went over to his house with 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.880 Fred and I was like, hey, man, all bullshit aside, 0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.480 Like I've always respected your because I'm a basketball guy, 0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:50.799 you know what I'm saying. So I got my own 0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:53.120 opinions about the sports ship, you know what I'm saying. 0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:56.440 I was like, I've always respected your you know, your 0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:58.920 taste in hip hop. It's always the real ship, you do. Like, 0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:02.400 But talk about how y'all linked up and was it 0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:04.279 just from him being a fan of w of what 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:07.200 y'all do, or like, how did that relationship happen? Yeah? 0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:09.640 Just I I you know it started out. I guess 0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:12.440 he you know, he was he he fucked with the music. 0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:16.000 But you know, my my guy, my big brother set Free, 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.080 you know what I'm saying. He he kind of like 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.440 bridged that gap, you know what I'm saying. He he 0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:23.879 brought KD to one of my shows in New York, 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:25.880 you know what I'm saying. And then from there it 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:28.480 was just you know, we we was kind of like 0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:31.560 like hung out the whole night, Like we went from 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.560 the show, went straight to the studio and I'm playing 0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:37.520 them songs and from there it's just like it was 0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:41.000 a genuine like you know what I mean, Like we know, 0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:43.200 Nigga pick up on the first second ring for me 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.000 when I called, you know, I was just at his 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:48.160 house the other day, right yesterday, matter of fact, Oh yeah, 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.080 his house and and and you know what I'm saying. 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:52.840 But he's a he he definitely a fan of the 0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:57.440 Griselda shit. Like even before like set Free introduced me, 0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:01.120 I seen him like post like shit, like you know, 0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:04.760 him listening and like everybody is full a black tape 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:06.360 or side like that, you know what I mean. And 0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:09.080 you know what I man, But you know, I like 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.200 the thing set Free for you know, making that you know, 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:16.080 bridging that gap man and shout out the KD. Man, 0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:19.520 that's that's that's my dog yo. Thus far in your career, man, 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:23.120 what has been You've had a lot of these moments, 0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:25.239 But what has been the one surreal moment where you 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:29.080 like really like you you felt like yeah, I'm like 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:30.919 I'm doing what I'm supposed to do, Like this ship 0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:34.200 is really like this is where I'm at. I'm at 0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:36.080 exactly where I'm supposed to be at. Like everything I 0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.000 did in my life like led up to this ship 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:39.759 because I feel like a lot you know, on the 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.640 way up. We have those moments. Yeah, yeah, man, I 0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:52.279 would probably say that, you know Whole backstage, you know 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:57.080 what I mean? Yeah, that was that hit me different, 0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:00.439 that just sat with me different. You know I'm saying 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.640 like Whole didn't have to do that, Like Whole, I 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:06.520 just viverly remember like Hole made it his business, like 0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:10.239 this is jay Z. Yeah this nigga. Lakers had a 0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:13.839 game and right across the lay mind you, and then 0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.800 I was just so impressed by like I think the 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:19.320 Lakers beat the Bucks that night. It was like his bucks. 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:22.360 I bet on that game. It was Lakers Bucks. I 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:25.960 bet on the game. But it's just him and Emery. 0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:28.399 You know what I'm saying, Like, damn, you are here, 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.080 you had a you know, our type of hip hop 0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:35.000 is defferently the crowds. It's different, like you Dolo, it's 0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:38.080 essentially you know what I'm saying, You and Emery. You 0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:40.759 know what I'm saying like I was just gone by 0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:42.600 that and then that he just made his way Like 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:44.480 when I got off stage and I'm broken down, I'm 0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:47.040 crying and you know what I'm saying, and fleet arms 0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.279 and all that ship and that nigga like like he 0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:52.239 walks over, tell me like he came personally to like 0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:55.440 grab me, like me, like yo, bro, like you know 0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.160 what I mean and do that. That was a huge 0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:01.719 moment for me. But and up until getting nominated for 0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:05.440 that BET Best Group or right there, it was like 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:07.800 that was that moment you said, like you know this 0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:09.440 where this is where I need to be. Yeah. No, 0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.719 I remember reposting that like, man, y'all should have won 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:14.160 that though who wanted the Migos. They didn't even put 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:17.600 it out mount That's what I understand, you know, you know, 0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:20.839 shout out to the Migos, man offset to real one Bro, 0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:23.680 shout out the city girls, shout out to everybody that 0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:26.680 was nominated. Have you guys linked with the Migos at all? 0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:29.080 Or I mean off set? I never linked with Migos. 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:31.440 I know off sets of real hip hop head I 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:35.080 linked with like you know, like P, Like shout out 0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:36.680 to P. You know what I'm saying like him and 0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.239 Coach K came to the Atlanta show. You know what 0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:41.480 I'm saying. That night, Wow, you know what I'm saying. 0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:43.799 I know why energy probably was a little little different. 0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:47.560 I had just got ribbed like three hours earlier. Still 0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:49.919 went like rock that bitch. You know what I'm saying. 0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:53.359 But shout out to p You know what I'm saying. 0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:54.759 We ended up going You know what I'm saying. We 0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.040 linked with them before he put up to his studio 0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.720 and went out with him and stuff to the club 0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:02.080 and sh hung up, hung out with him and all 0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:05.200 that after the after the show. No, this was before 0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:09.120 we initially linked up at the Javonte Davis fight. You 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.839 know what I'm saying. That was crazy fighting Atlanta. Yo. 0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.640 I feel like I hear about him beefing with rappers 0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:18.960 more than I hear about him. He turned up on Twitter, boy, 0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:22.560 have you what's your guys' relationship like with fifty Man 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:26.399 fifty that you know fifty was on the project, which 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:30.160 I thought was such an important moment. You know what 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:35.000 I'm saying. I can't lie like I don't. I don't 0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:36.560 want to cap and make it saying like I know 0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:39.200 fifty all like that. I don't got a fifty phone 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:41.279 number and ane of that ship, I don't whatever. But 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.800 any time I ever was around and fifty cent was around, 0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:48.239 fifty cent definitely showed me love, like you know what 0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:51.520 I'm saying, like like I'm around my shoulder type shit 0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:54.840 without nigga laughing joking type shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:58.520 And I got mad love for I look up the 0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:02.080 fifty low key just how he did it and did 0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:04.080 it his way and how he just you know what 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.040 I mean, to take it to where he took it to. 0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.440 I just I just funck with that and I salute that. 0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:12.800 And it's crazy because the last time I seen fifty 0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:17.960 was when he the unveiling of his Hollywood star I'm 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:21.040 and ship or whatever. Then like after his speaks and 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:24.920 the Dre was there, right, we go up the stairs 0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:27.680 like to like the hotel, like on the rooftop of 0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.279 w with some ship to just like through some more 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:33.200 like photos and ship or whatever, and and me and 0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:35.840 Western standing there. Obviously we're the only dudes with like 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.200 hoodies and shit, you know what I mean. But after 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.800 he like he taking pictures with like doctor Dre, and 0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.680 you know what I mean top Dog marshaling them and 0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:47.840 then like before they it was all over, But that 0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:50.600 nigga made sure he like looked dead at me, like, yo, 0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:53.839 come here, nah, yeah, you the niggas come over here 0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:55.600 and to prepare with us, you know what I mean? 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:58.759 Like that, Like I forever salute that nigga. I feel 0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:04.040 like y'all are the hard movement group wise energy wise 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:09.319 since G UNIT, right because it was you know, I mean, 0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:11.560 I think, you know, Migo's one of the greatest rat 0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:13.759 groups of all time. But I feel like energy wise, 0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:16.480 their energy doesn't necessarily match the energy I felt like 0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:18.640 with G UNIT. Like I felt like with G Units, 0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:21.120 so much came with that, you know, the way people 0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:24.600 dressed and there was just so much that came with that, 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:28.720 that energy. And I feel like you guys definitely are 0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:31.960 the first groups or crew whatever you want to call 0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:34.560 it click since G UNIT. That's given me that like 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:40.400 same exact vibe and with that like there's you guys 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:45.160 are from Buffalo. But I think that you guys, I mean, 0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:47.280 all three of y'all sharing the king of New York 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:51.160 as a state, maybe not New York City, but you know, 0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.200 I've been seeing a lot of you know, bullshit, people 0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:56.840 claiming king of New York and I'm like, yo, listen, man, 0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:01.040 y'all got it? Do you do you feel like yo? Y' 0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:04.440 like like legitimately like take take yourself, like, but like 0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:08.960 in New York, you got there's nobody who's fucking with y'all, bro, 0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:13.439 new York City. That means whatever you want to call it. Yeah, 0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:18.320 I mean I just look at it like that really 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:20.680 ain't my you know what I'm saying, My my my. 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:23.520 I want to just be the king of rap that's 0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:26.400 rap game. Like, I want to be just when niggas 0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.560 be like, you're not asked, and that's the otherest nigga 0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:30.360 in the game right now. That's what I'm on. That's 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.760 what I'm after. So like that King of New York 0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:35.760 shit and all that, I mean, I'm I still I'm 0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:37.560 gonna say I'm the King of New York too, because 0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.840 like shit, like pen wise, I do feel like, of course, like, 0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:44.880 ain't nobody fucking with me? But I'm not going around 0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:47.040 beating on my chests and trying to like you know, 0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:50.840 like slight niggas to say nothing like that. Man. I 0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:54.440 respect everybody, cry. I expect everybody as men, you know 0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:57.240 what I'm saying, And shit, I wish everybody the best, 0:58:57.360 --> 0:59:00.920 keeps striving, But I know, like how I carry myself 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:02.680 like I'm the king of New York, I'm the king 0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:05.760 of the rap game. You know what I'm saying. I 0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:09.840 truly believe that when when did you guys really decide? 0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:12.280 And I don't know if this was Gun or if 0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:14.440 this was a group, but I feel like you guys 0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:20.920 moved in unit set, like with just the aesthetics. It's 0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:27.439 the artwork, it's the merch everything. It's it's it's fly, 0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:31.840 it's you know, it's the painting. Shit, it's it's dark. 0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:35.480 Like what like, was is that a group collective? Or 0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:37.560 is that something? Because I know that it was Gun's 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:39.680 idea to put the lady on the Griselda cover, right, 0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:43.960 the Lady from Buffalo, But like it was designed a 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:45.880 lot of the cover, a lot of the covers coming 0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:48.960 up like earlier, like in our career, it would design 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:51.160 a lot of the covers and shit like that. But 0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:54.040 it's just you know what I mean, Like we're just 0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:56.400 students of the game, and we had the benefits of 0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:59.480 just being older and being able to be around so 0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.960 many different eras of hip hop, or when we be 1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:06.320 able to watch and learn, like we've seen everybody, the 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:08.440 best of the best come and do it, come and go, 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:10.640 you know what I'm saying, and do it how they 1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:12.720 did it. So we was able to just you know, 1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:16.120 take notes, take notes and just apply it. But you 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:19.480 know what I'm saying, we're just different, man. We we 1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:23.960 acknowledge the fan. You know what I'm saying. The show well, 1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:27.040 So I like to think of like what type of 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:31.160 experience the fans will enjoy most from an artist if 1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:33.480 it was me. You know what I'm saying. I want 1:00:33.520 --> 1:00:36.960 to be able to have a collector's edition Vinyl Luna 1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:39.800 brad Bi it is this artist. I want to have 1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:42.920 a cassette. They don't even make cassettes no more. But 1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:46.479 I got this cassette of a nigga dropped the twenty 1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:50.240 twenty and signed it and it's gold and something like that. 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:54.919 You know what I'm saying. I think that is what's 1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:59.600 you know, the important and that's the collective thing. You 1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:01.680 know what I'm say saying. As far as like the 1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:03.680 cover iron and a lot of that ship like you 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:06.680 know what I'm saying. West definitely spiritheaded a lot of 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:09.800 our earlier covers, like it was just designed to cover 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:12.080 like you know what what we was on. Like I 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:14.120 was just like, bro, you I don't be in the 1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:15.920 officers and doing that. I don't want to talk to 1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:19.480 the motherfuckers. Bro, Like go ahead, get us the bag. Bro, 1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:21.600 I'm gonna just I'm being here in the studio. What 1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:24.200 do you feel right now? Man? Obviously the world's in 1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:27.360 the crazy ass place. Hey, y'all got that tour off 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:33.200 right in time for shure that we had part two, 1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:35.600 Like I know, you guys had a whole other, a 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:38.800 whole other run the cancer get you guys had to 1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:42.680 cancel it. But like obviously with the coronavirus and uh, 1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:46.480 you know just where the world is man with with 1:01:47.040 --> 1:01:50.920 you know, obviously the murder of George Floyd has changed 1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:54.920 the world. And then now you know, with with the 1:01:55.160 --> 1:02:01.200 election coming up, like like it's it's almost you said 1:02:01.280 --> 1:02:03.000 something earlier like you kind of took a break from 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:05.960 the internet. It's almost like it's hard on, Like man, 1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:09.000 it's it's it's draining to open your phone now, bro, Yeah, 1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:12.520 turn the nose on, put your phone on, or so 1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:16.840 much bullshit going on it's crazy motherfuckers in the White 1:02:16.880 --> 1:02:20.120 House and all that shit. Yeah, they're bad here, man, 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:23.680 it's police going crazy. It's like every time I open 1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:26.440 my phone, it's like it's bad nose. It's like a 1:02:26.760 --> 1:02:30.240 snag some some bolls. Shit. Like That's why I don't 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:32.640 even be really having my phone on me all like that, 1:02:32.880 --> 1:02:36.280 Like I don't want to talk to nobody, like because 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:38.960 I know somebody calling me with their problem or the 1:02:39.160 --> 1:02:42.000 down know that shit. Man, I got my own proble. 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:46.520 I'm trying to drink away in my pain. Feel me yoo, Yeah, 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:49.280 we got more. I think we killed that bottle duce 1:02:49.480 --> 1:02:52.280 last night. It got to be the seventeen thirty eight 1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:55.920 last you've done with my own shit? Yo, Getting back 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:58.640 to your you're drinking? You are you in the darker? 1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.400 I knew you're in the dark right now, but what 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:05.800 is the preferred uh drink everything he said everything? I 1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:08.080 really just I really just started back fucking with the 1:03:08.200 --> 1:03:12.320 dark though I've been untransitioned over to that forty two. 1:03:13.000 --> 1:03:16.040 The forty two is that ship I fuck with that tequila? Man, 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:20.480 that forty It's way smoother. Yeah, but what I really 1:03:20.480 --> 1:03:22.600 ain't been drinking all like that I'm kind of been, 1:03:23.360 --> 1:03:25.760 you know what I mean, I ain't really I don't 1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:28.200 drink all like that no more. What's the craziest drug 1:03:28.280 --> 1:03:31.760 you've tried? Because I just did mushrooms for the first time, 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:37.720 which was wild. Yeah, that ship was something else. Honestly, 1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:40.560 the craziest shit I tried. It was like some ship 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:44.200 called with its Oh the whips, Yeah, were one of 1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:46.720 my white homeboys. This when I was living in Atlanta. 1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:48.800 It'd be a long time ago. This was a long 1:03:48.880 --> 1:03:51.720 time ago. Guys tried to bring those back. But yeah, yeah, 1:03:51.800 --> 1:03:54.400 I was. I was a long time ago. I was 1:03:54.480 --> 1:03:56.880 homeless in Atlanta and shit, and I met this white nigga. 1:03:56.880 --> 1:03:58.400 That's so weird. It would have been a white guy, 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:02.479 know what I'm saying. You know it's crazy, house says 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:05.160 and Ship you think that comes from the South. It 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:07.480 was like a white dude that allowed me to Man, 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:09.720 you can crash here, bro, let you stay at his crib. 1:04:10.600 --> 1:04:13.600 Take this whipping. Yeah here try this whipping. You ever 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:17.280 had this? You know what I'm saying. And I tried 1:04:17.320 --> 1:04:20.080 that and it was only like thirtyn't even an't even 1:04:20.200 --> 1:04:23.240 like I was gone before you knew it. And Ship 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:25.560 like and it was gone before I knew it. But 1:04:25.680 --> 1:04:27.680 it was just crazy because it's like I didn't know 1:04:27.760 --> 1:04:30.280 what the fuck that was, Like, you know what, what 1:04:30.400 --> 1:04:33.120 about what's the shittiest job you ever had? Conaway? I 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:39.680 worked at McDonald's in Alabama. In Alabama, and like lou Verne, Alabama, 1:04:39.840 --> 1:04:42.680 it's like the country. It ain't even like no big cities, 1:04:43.200 --> 1:04:46.160 dirt rolls and ship. How long were you at McDonald's, bro, 1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:50.760 I lasted about a good month one one man I 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:53.280 worked at I worked at McDonald's. I was fifteen. I 1:04:53.320 --> 1:04:58.160 lasted one shift. Yeah it was over. I tried my yeah, 1:04:58.240 --> 1:05:00.520 fuck all that, yo. So you bounced around a lot 1:05:00.680 --> 1:05:02.880 as far as like where you've lived obviously from Buffalo. 1:05:03.000 --> 1:05:05.520 But why were you in Alabama? Well, you know, we 1:05:05.640 --> 1:05:07.480 have family down there. Okay, you know what I'm saying. 1:05:07.520 --> 1:05:09.840 I was down there, me and West. He's living with 1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:13.040 you know, Graham Dukes. You know what I'm saying. And 1:05:14.000 --> 1:05:16.280 should I couldn't? You know, of course I can't be 1:05:16.360 --> 1:05:19.480 no growing ass, you know what I mean, living with 1:05:19.640 --> 1:05:22.320 somebody and not making get a job and holding it down. 1:05:22.440 --> 1:05:25.439 So we're just out in Alabama just to get away, 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:28.240 like sometimes I just need to get away from the 1:05:28.320 --> 1:05:30.600 streets for a little bit, that's fair. And I was 1:05:30.680 --> 1:05:32.560 able to do that with West Side Gun like he 1:05:32.680 --> 1:05:36.360 always will be. You know what I'm saying, think it bigger. Yeah, 1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:41.280 he just would always he you know, he had you know, 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:44.000 his mom's side of the family and ship. They made 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:46.520 sure that he ain't have to have to grow up 1:05:46.680 --> 1:05:49.400 like you know, most most niggas in the hood, you 1:05:49.480 --> 1:05:52.920 know what I'm saying. So they really had ship going on, 1:05:53.400 --> 1:05:55.520 nice stuff and shit like that. So I would go, 1:05:56.800 --> 1:05:58.120 you know what I mean, when I go spend the 1:05:58.160 --> 1:05:59.840 night at his houses when I would be able to 1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:04.960 have some pizza or some playing PlayStations right right, right, 1:06:05.080 --> 1:06:10.320 right right right. You you and Gun are big wrestling guys, 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:13.520 which has been a big I feel like you guys 1:06:13.600 --> 1:06:18.640 and smoke dizzer kind of a bottle it is, and 1:06:18.760 --> 1:06:21.800 a brown bag in the truck, brown bag in the truck. 1:06:22.400 --> 1:06:25.200 Ad I'm saying, like with the with the wrestling ship, 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:27.040 like you know, I give it up to Dizze and 1:06:27.080 --> 1:06:29.400 I give it up to you guys to really kind 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:32.760 of uh and shout out to my got Rosenberg to 1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:36.680 kind of make a wrestling cool again. In hip hop. Yeah, yeah, 1:06:37.080 --> 1:06:39.600 you know about a decade ago, like you would really 1:06:40.080 --> 1:06:42.520 be at a wrestling fan. It was like a it 1:06:42.680 --> 1:06:47.200 was like a scarlet letter, like, Yo, you watched that Bullshita? 1:06:48.640 --> 1:06:52.440 How are you how? Like? Because right now it's fucked 1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:58.479 up because there's no crowd, Like WrestleMania was so crowd 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:01.320 it's hard to watch. Right I'm tapped out. See, I 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:03.680 ain't gonna lie like I love the wrestling ship and 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:08.040 all that, but I wasn't like no big, big wrestling 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:11.480 head ass nigga like West and doz Gun is ahead. 1:07:11.960 --> 1:07:14.240 You'll like, he'll like travel and go to the little 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:17.360 indie shows. Okay, okay, that's rather spend my money in 1:07:17.560 --> 1:07:22.320 something else. That's fair. But you know what I'm saying again, 1:07:22.480 --> 1:07:26.520 that just goes with back into you know, knowing what 1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:29.520 what a fan want, Like you got to cater to 1:07:29.600 --> 1:07:35.000 the fans. Man. People love wrestling, Yeah, people love movies, 1:07:35.440 --> 1:07:38.120 people love ship like that, you know what I mean? 1:07:38.200 --> 1:07:40.560 Like kind of like with Wu Tang with the karate flicks. 1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:43.800 Who don't love karate flicks? Especially back then like in 1:07:43.840 --> 1:07:46.480 the ninth if he was listening to hip hop, you know, 1:07:46.720 --> 1:07:50.920 the age to really understand what niggas was doing in 1:07:51.080 --> 1:07:54.040 ninety two, ninety three, ninety four. Then you grew up 1:07:54.080 --> 1:07:56.600 in a Kung fu flick era and if you didn't 1:07:56.640 --> 1:07:58.640 you listen to Wu Tang, and then you wouldn't found it. 1:07:59.240 --> 1:08:02.320 I was like, oh shit, yeah, with the rest of 1:08:02.360 --> 1:08:04.360 the shit, y'all do for sure, right? You know what 1:08:04.400 --> 1:08:08.800 I'm saying. That's facts. We were talking last night. You 1:08:08.800 --> 1:08:10.360 were talking about the eras that you've lived through, and 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:13.440 I think it's dope that, like you said, like, yo, 1:08:13.520 --> 1:08:17.840 look we're older, like we've lived some life, and it's 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:21.200 almost probably better that you guys are hitting your stride 1:08:21.360 --> 1:08:22.920 now because maybe if you would have hit it when 1:08:22.960 --> 1:08:25.200 you were twenty two twenty three, shit might have got crazy. 1:08:25.680 --> 1:08:30.240 You know what I'm saying. But like what the eras 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:32.639 of hip hop you lived through? You know, I think 1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:35.639 you and I probably got similar taste in music. I'm curious, 1:08:35.680 --> 1:08:40.800 what are you like three or four albums of all time? 1:08:41.000 --> 1:08:43.679 Like if you had to, if you had the Lord forbid, 1:08:43.760 --> 1:08:46.400 do a bid, and you had one iPod with and 1:08:46.479 --> 1:08:48.559 you can only put three or four projects on there, 1:08:48.600 --> 1:08:49.920 what are you What are you taking with you that 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:54.920 aren't your own or Griselle. Obviously we asking like my 1:08:55.160 --> 1:08:58.160 favorite or your favorite thing is not the best because 1:08:58.160 --> 1:09:00.840 it's two different conversations, right, That's why I'm a cla 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:05.880 your favorite hmm, that's crazy. That's different because always getting 1:09:05.880 --> 1:09:07.920 too with Kanye people because I know his best album 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:10.639 is my beautiful dark Twist of Fantasy, but my favorite 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:13.080 album is like Registration. You know what I'm saying. So 1:09:13.160 --> 1:09:19.920 it's not they're not the same. Your favorites. I would say, definitely, uh, 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:24.639 Doggy Style best West Coast hip hop album ever. I agree, 1:09:25.400 --> 1:09:29.799 I've been screening one. I wouldn't be mad if somebody 1:09:29.920 --> 1:09:33.720 said the chronic was. But either way, right, I think 1:09:33.880 --> 1:09:36.599 doggy styles. I take Doggy Style. I like Doggy Style. 1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:41.880 I would take Doggy Style. I would take helter skeltering Nocturnal, Okay, 1:09:43.160 --> 1:09:51.200 I would take It's getting tricky because that dad press 1:09:51.439 --> 1:10:00.240 let's get free. Yep, reasonable doubt for me. It was 1:10:00.280 --> 1:10:03.200 written for me. It was written all right, you know. 1:10:03.280 --> 1:10:07.840 I respect that man. I will say, like, you know, 1:10:08.080 --> 1:10:11.519 the Purple tape and Iron Man, hey man, not to 1:10:11.600 --> 1:10:13.479 have some wool. So it's like it's hard for me 1:10:13.600 --> 1:10:15.960 to just take three or four. I'll be fucked up. 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:18.400 You know what's funny that you said Healter Skelter because 1:10:19.200 --> 1:10:21.519 you know, Sean Price was one of my favorite MC's 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:24.720 and uh and when he died, man, it just it 1:10:24.880 --> 1:10:26.840 was it was it was tough because I was such 1:10:26.920 --> 1:10:28.360 I mean I used to buy his vinyl. Was like, 1:10:28.880 --> 1:10:32.040 I love Sean Price, but I feel like you in particular, 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:36.360 there's something about you the way you deliver rhymes that 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:38.760 kind of as a Sean Price fan, it kind of 1:10:38.880 --> 1:10:41.599 hit me. Not saying that you're like sound like Price, 1:10:42.360 --> 1:10:44.640 but you feel me like like like the way you 1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:48.240 just maybe it's just not giving a fuck my last 1:10:48.320 --> 1:10:52.400 name Price. Man, this is Sean Price vibes. Man. I 1:10:52.520 --> 1:10:58.439 mean I feel like Ruck is like probably taking I mean, 1:10:58.479 --> 1:11:00.880 it's either him or Black Thought, my opinion, the most 1:11:00.960 --> 1:11:04.720 underrated mcs. You know what I'm saying. Like p was 1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:08.080 so crazy, bro, Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. 1:11:08.240 --> 1:11:10.800 That was like I said, man, I would listen to that. 1:11:10.920 --> 1:11:13.720 I know that album front to back. You know what 1:11:13.760 --> 1:11:15.840 I'm saying. I can wrap that ship word for word, 1:11:16.760 --> 1:11:18.360 you know what I'm saying. And there was some more 1:11:18.479 --> 1:11:21.720 niggas that I just you know, I looked up to 1:11:21.880 --> 1:11:24.640 and studied and and fucked with their craft and how 1:11:24.680 --> 1:11:28.040 they did that ship like, I love it. I love 1:11:28.240 --> 1:11:30.519 I love that album. I love to help the Skelter. 1:11:30.760 --> 1:11:34.639 Shout out to Bernardette and rest in peace, Sean Price, 1:11:34.880 --> 1:11:37.720 Shout out to my nigga rock, my nigga rock Nests. 1:11:37.880 --> 1:11:41.120 You know what I'm saying, Like you you mentioned it 1:11:41.200 --> 1:11:44.720 Ray Kwan earlier. What about Ghosts? You you have you 1:11:44.800 --> 1:11:46.479 linked up with ghost at all as far as like 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:49.080 a like, like at least having a relationship with them. 1:11:49.120 --> 1:11:52.000 Ghost is my one of my top five all time. Yeah, 1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:58.800 like I never I never linked with Ghosts, like you 1:11:58.840 --> 1:12:01.240 know what I'm saying. Like like you said, like no relationship, 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:04.439 ship or whatever, Like the way I like I pull 1:12:04.520 --> 1:12:06.280 up to the studio where I've been out to eat 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:09.360 with Ray Korn. You know what I mean, Chill, we 1:12:09.600 --> 1:12:11.920 did we party together. We don'e did shit together, you 1:12:11.960 --> 1:12:14.880 know what I'm saying. Like Ghosts, I would always see him, 1:12:15.000 --> 1:12:18.240 like you know in the trailer we like on the 1:12:18.320 --> 1:12:21.160 same bill out of like at festivals and stuff, like 1:12:21.160 --> 1:12:23.600 when he was like Rowland Loud New York. We was 1:12:23.680 --> 1:12:26.000 on the same bill. I'll go on the trailer out 1:12:26.280 --> 1:12:28.439 because you know, they all know me. I'm fun. They 1:12:28.479 --> 1:12:30.800 all shows love like. That's one thing I can say, 1:12:30.880 --> 1:12:34.240 man about the woo like And I love about them 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:36.640 niggas because a lot of time, like you know, the 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:39.880 artists that came before the niggas be kind of like 1:12:40.120 --> 1:12:42.360 stingy with that, with that lot, they don't want to 1:12:42.439 --> 1:12:44.680 let go you got it sometimes, like man, sometimes you 1:12:44.720 --> 1:12:46.439 got to just embrace little you know what I mean, 1:12:46.520 --> 1:12:49.360 the young little homies that's coming up, man like, So 1:12:49.520 --> 1:12:52.800 I love the wool for that because they always like, man, yo, 1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:55.720 y'all boys killing that shit. Keep doing what y'all doing. 1:12:56.240 --> 1:12:58.799 I love that shiit each and every one of the members. 1:12:59.240 --> 1:13:00.920 You know what I'm saying, shout out to you know, 1:13:01.000 --> 1:13:03.360 you had a line on one of these songs where 1:13:03.400 --> 1:13:08.080 he was like they say Darren Dremin, they remind Rizza. 1:13:09.439 --> 1:13:12.240 You remind me of somebody who in the face with 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:16.920 it was crazy. You know, have you got because you know, 1:13:17.200 --> 1:13:19.280 I feel like Rizza don't produce like that no more. 1:13:19.320 --> 1:13:22.519 But I feel like you know that's I don't know 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:25.360 you guys haven't worked with Rizzi yet, right, No, not yet. 1:13:25.640 --> 1:13:29.920 I just feel like that. Don't say nothing, but we spoke, 1:13:30.160 --> 1:13:32.040 you know what I'm saying. So he's tapped in yeah 1:13:32.320 --> 1:13:34.600 about you know, he wanted to you know, like, you know, 1:13:34.760 --> 1:13:38.519 we gotta do some ship, but we ain't do nothing yet. 1:13:38.600 --> 1:13:40.479 I'm sure that's coming. I was just hoping that that 1:13:40.600 --> 1:13:42.960 battle kind of sparked his interest in doing rap again 1:13:43.840 --> 1:13:46.040 because he got so much other ship going on. Yeah, 1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:48.160 I would love. That's like a bucket list ship for 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:51.439 me to be in the studio Rizi. You know what 1:13:51.479 --> 1:13:54.760 I'm saying about it though the way, well from the 1:13:54.840 --> 1:13:57.360 stories I heard, I don't know this want to, but 1:13:57.560 --> 1:14:00.479 just the stories I heard, like I probably wouldn't even 1:14:00.479 --> 1:14:02.080 be in the same room with the rim, Like I 1:14:02.200 --> 1:14:04.680 probably just go there, lay my verse and then this 1:14:04.920 --> 1:14:06.960 time I gotta live and then you hear it. We 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:10.680 it just don't even sound like what I did or 1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:13.439 what I rapped on. I heard. That's how he do 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:16.519 so well, that's buckle list to work with the Rizord. 1:14:17.240 --> 1:14:20.000 Kanye was one. I can check that onf eminem check 1:14:20.080 --> 1:14:23.639 that off. So Benny said he's got some joints with Drake. 1:14:25.080 --> 1:14:29.479 Yeah that that yeah, Yeah, like it is just like 1:14:30.200 --> 1:14:32.479 we're talking about like I feel like, man, your bucket's 1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:34.639 got to be getting shorter, at least the squads because 1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:38.000 I worked with everybody, man, so it's like, who was 1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:39.960 the who was your who was your first big feature? 1:14:40.800 --> 1:14:44.160 Rock Marciano? That that rock on my mind, one of 1:14:44.200 --> 1:14:47.800 the most underrated whatever. We got Rock Marciana and popped 1:14:47.840 --> 1:14:49.800 the bottle and on and we got the words back. 1:14:50.240 --> 1:14:54.639 Did you have to pay for the rock Verse? Crazy? Crazy? Right? Hey, man, 1:14:54.800 --> 1:15:01.360 he's an incredible I just man like outside of that, 1:15:01.800 --> 1:15:05.320 like prior, its like that was just like Dick fans 1:15:05.640 --> 1:15:08.759 like crazy blew my mind was Cool Gie Rap reached 1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:10.599 out and one of it was on Cool g Raps. 1:15:10.920 --> 1:15:13.280 I want to say it was his last album, one 1:15:13.320 --> 1:15:17.439 of them maybe the last album. Did you guys send 1:15:17.520 --> 1:15:19.760 the Verse in or did you guys meet up? We 1:15:19.840 --> 1:15:22.559 sent it in. We sent it. That's got to be crazy. 1:15:23.360 --> 1:15:26.559 We did the ship. We recorded that ship in Texas, 1:15:26.680 --> 1:15:28.920 someone from the world. We're just down there for south 1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:32.559 by Southwest, hustling and ship passing out CDs. That ship's 1:15:32.560 --> 1:15:34.599 got to be over with the COVID ship. I don't 1:15:34.600 --> 1:15:38.920 know how that's ever coming back. Yeah, No, it's wild, bro, Like, 1:15:40.200 --> 1:15:42.040 I just don't see how. I just don't see how 1:15:42.080 --> 1:15:45.720 that ship is possible. Move over sh crazy, it's crazy, man. 1:15:45.760 --> 1:15:50.439 Well look you got two albums on the way, yeah, 1:15:51.120 --> 1:15:56.120 two of them. What is it like with m Let 1:15:56.160 --> 1:16:01.160 me ask you, like the process of turning the album 1:16:01.240 --> 1:16:04.960 into eminem does he give you a lot of feedback? 1:16:05.760 --> 1:16:08.920 Is it like have you like, like, do you kind 1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:10.880 of know like the ship that he's looking for to 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:13.519 make the album or or do you guys for the 1:16:13.560 --> 1:16:17.160 most part, he trusts you guys creatively. I really I 1:16:17.240 --> 1:16:20.600 don't know if I can't answer that fully because I 1:16:20.720 --> 1:16:23.840 never We hadn't handled in no projects. Yeah, well you 1:16:23.920 --> 1:16:26.960 know what we're gonna do, right what I'm saying, And well, 1:16:27.040 --> 1:16:30.280 like I know that I've played God don't make mistakes 1:16:30.360 --> 1:16:32.560 for him in Detroit. I went to his studio in 1:16:32.680 --> 1:16:37.040 Detroit and I played it for him and Paul, and 1:16:37.960 --> 1:16:40.599 you know, he had nothing to say. Everything was like, Yo, 1:16:40.720 --> 1:16:43.920 this this ship is crazy. This this this, this ship 1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:48.440 is crazy. So I never ever heard any like feedback 1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:50.599 or like yo, nah, do this change that I think 1:16:50.640 --> 1:16:53.320 you should wrap on this beat or do this? Like 1:16:53.439 --> 1:16:55.880 I never was so I feel like, you know, shit, 1:16:55.960 --> 1:16:58.800 he want us to just do what we do. You 1:16:58.840 --> 1:17:01.800 know what I'm saying. Yeahmer, we were talking last night 1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:03.600 and I heard the album and I was like, this 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:08.960 is perfect because I I remember when slaughter House dropped 1:17:09.000 --> 1:17:11.160 on Shady and they tried to do the radio thing, 1:17:11.360 --> 1:17:13.760 and there was a record you played last night that 1:17:13.960 --> 1:17:16.000 probably never come out, that was on some radio shit 1:17:16.080 --> 1:17:20.439 that was fly as fuck. But I feel like you're you, 1:17:20.760 --> 1:17:25.760 like like we were saying, like shit, man, like you you. 1:17:25.960 --> 1:17:30.600 I think you found a great place sonically where you 1:17:30.680 --> 1:17:33.920 could do new ship and still stay true to yourself staates, 1:17:33.960 --> 1:17:37.560 true to your your core fan base and not necessarily 1:17:37.720 --> 1:17:39.840 you know, a lot of cats be reaching for hits 1:17:40.920 --> 1:17:43.599 and then it's like disappointing. You'll be like, dog, why 1:17:43.680 --> 1:17:46.599 did you put this step right? Because that was reaching. 1:17:46.800 --> 1:17:50.160 They was reaching. You know. You gotta understand, like the 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:54.040 all the hits that came on that we considered hits, 1:17:54.520 --> 1:17:56.360 they just didn't go in there like Yo, I'm gonther 1:17:56.439 --> 1:17:57.800 go man, I want to make a hit. You know 1:17:58.360 --> 1:18:01.400 it's organic. You don't know gonna be ahead. That's how 1:18:01.439 --> 1:18:03.200 I look at like, you don't know what's gonna be it. 1:18:03.720 --> 1:18:05.560 You gotta just go in down and make music with 1:18:05.720 --> 1:18:09.320 your heart and not what your thinking. You know, nobody 1:18:09.479 --> 1:18:12.519 know you know what I'm saying. It'd be songs that 1:18:13.200 --> 1:18:15.760 I've done the tapes and when I let somebody hear 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:17.640 the song that I had in mind, like this, the 1:18:17.720 --> 1:18:19.519 single that's gonna be the one when people hear this. 1:18:20.080 --> 1:18:24.240 Motherfucker's fucked with a whole different a whole different record, 1:18:24.320 --> 1:18:26.840 you know what I'm saying. So you never know. You 1:18:26.920 --> 1:18:28.760 know what I'm saying. So you've been known to do 1:18:28.840 --> 1:18:34.880 that obviously Alchemists collab project, Lulu. Is there anybody else 1:18:34.920 --> 1:18:38.680 who you have interest in doing a collaboration project with 1:18:39.479 --> 1:18:42.559 now that's either a producer or artist you know. Earlier 1:18:42.600 --> 1:18:44.639 you and You were saying you and Gibbs kicked around 1:18:44.680 --> 1:18:48.200 the idea, like who's somebody who you want to or 1:18:48.360 --> 1:18:50.439 is there something that's actually in the works for somebody 1:18:50.560 --> 1:18:56.519 that that like, because like I said, man, I really 1:18:57.600 --> 1:18:59.439 I'm at the space and all like I'm gonna be 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:03.160 this man, like I really don't I really don't give 1:19:03.200 --> 1:19:06.320 a fuck about work with no niggas, Like I don't 1:19:06.320 --> 1:19:09.080 really fuck with nobody man, And I don't really you 1:19:09.120 --> 1:19:10.920 know what I'm saying. I don't want nobody to fuck 1:19:10.960 --> 1:19:13.360 with me. Just leave me alone. I don't care about 1:19:13.439 --> 1:19:16.120 working to collab it because I don't tried being that 1:19:16.280 --> 1:19:19.479 type of artist reaching out, Hey man, let's do a joint, man, 1:19:20.840 --> 1:19:23.599 and you know what I mean, take my number, man, 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:26.560 call me, yeah, let's do it. Send it dude, and 1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:29.040 then you know, I don't get it back or I 1:19:29.080 --> 1:19:31.439 don't get a text back and shit like, I don't 1:19:31.520 --> 1:19:33.920 play like that, you know what I'm saying. So I 1:19:34.080 --> 1:19:37.320 gotta learn to just I've learned to just don't even 1:19:37.439 --> 1:19:40.000 expect nothing out of these niggas because I've been gonna 1:19:40.040 --> 1:19:42.240 put my hands on one of these motherfuckers on you 1:19:42.280 --> 1:19:43.960 know what I mean. I don't like playing. Don't cap 1:19:44.040 --> 1:19:46.080 to me, like, just keep it a hundred, just keep 1:19:46.080 --> 1:19:48.160 it a buck. Yet, just keep it a buck, keep 1:19:48.160 --> 1:19:51.880 on that lip service, but I would probably believe it 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:53.960 or not. I want to do a take with Stevie J. 1:19:54.960 --> 1:20:00.800 Word yeah, okay, like legendary producers, people forgetting because he 1:20:00.880 --> 1:20:04.840 be on the TV. Because Stevie J Is a legend, legend. 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:09.360 Go the mons as a nigga, all that all the 1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:13.000 craziest ship you heard of early Big and the whole 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:16.120 nigga you think made that ship. I feel like it'd 1:20:16.120 --> 1:20:18.880 be kind of crazy to hear you on some like 1:20:19.040 --> 1:20:21.360 Dame Grease Ship or I wanted I would love to 1:20:21.439 --> 1:20:23.360 hear you in d m X do some ship. Man. 1:20:23.800 --> 1:20:27.000 Absolutely ya. But on the flip side of what I 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:30.120 just said before that, like I'm really open to like 1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:32.439 you know what I'm saying, yo, you in DMX, I 1:20:32.479 --> 1:20:34.920 don't object to work with no niggas, but like I'm 1:20:34.960 --> 1:20:37.479 not doing the reach out no more. No, I get 1:20:37.520 --> 1:20:39.880 that what I respect that. Man, anybody want to work 1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:42.200 with me, Man, let's get it. Let's let's let's work. 1:20:42.280 --> 1:20:44.400 I know me and dave E talked about doing the 1:20:44.479 --> 1:20:48.120 tape that Craze get that done. Like I said earlier, Man, 1:20:48.240 --> 1:20:52.840 gives have spoken about that. You know what I'm saying. 1:20:53.960 --> 1:20:57.240 But you know, right now, what about you? What about 1:20:57.720 --> 1:21:00.320 I mean, obviously we have outa project, but what about 1:21:00.400 --> 1:21:02.920 just you and Benny. We talked about that a lot 1:21:03.080 --> 1:21:05.800 as supposed to. You know, we're gonna get that out song. 1:21:05.840 --> 1:21:07.280 We're gonna get that done. So I feel like it 1:21:07.360 --> 1:21:09.519 gotta happen, man, you know what I'm saying. For the culture, 1:21:09.640 --> 1:21:12.679 for the culture, for the Griselda fans, you and Benny, 1:21:12.960 --> 1:21:16.160 even if it's a little six piece. Yeah yeah, yeah, No, 1:21:16.320 --> 1:21:18.920 that's gonna come. That's coming, that's gonna come. Well, look man, 1:21:19.600 --> 1:21:23.080 the one we do. Conway, appreciate your time, bro go 1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:26.840 support uh man everything this God does. You got so 1:21:26.960 --> 1:21:30.080 much music that comes out, like what like the Big 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:32.719 Ghost Ship. I didn't even like to see you promote 1:21:32.760 --> 1:21:35.120 that ship. I was like, it just popped up on 1:21:35.160 --> 1:21:37.720 my Spotify feet. I was like, what is this ship? Yeah, 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:41.280 you know, man, I'll be cooking. Man, you know, I'll 1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:43.680 be cooking. Man, shout out the Big Ghost you know 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:46.080 what I mean. Salute for even even thinking of having 1:21:46.160 --> 1:21:48.320 me on that, doing that with me. And that was 1:21:48.400 --> 1:21:50.800 just a project he was doing, you know what I mean, Like, Yo, 1:21:51.120 --> 1:21:52.200 you know what I mean. I need a couple of 1:21:52.320 --> 1:21:55.120 verses like let's get it man, Like I said, Man, 1:21:55.120 --> 1:21:56.800 I'm working whoever you want to work with me. Man, 1:21:56.840 --> 1:22:00.519 I'm with it. Conway the Machine, Yes, sir, boom So 1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:00.800 Lou