1 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: That's right, ladies and gentlemen, another edition of the Bootleg 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: CAAP podcast. I'm trying to figure out. I think we're 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: episode eleven right now. Man. Shout out to everybody locked in. 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: We got a dope week coming up, starting off though 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: with the homie Conway representing that Grizelda this week hell 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: of an episode, one of my favorite rappers. I love 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: everything that Griselda's doing. I feel like they can never 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: get enough props for everything they're doing for hip hop 9 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: right now. So that's coming up. 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And then 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: I just I hit up Killer Mike and I was like, Yo, Mike, 36 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: am I tripping because like, I interviewed this guy and 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: I didn't press him on any of the quote unquote 38 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: uh things people say about him, right, And Killer Mike 39 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: assured me that I'm not tripping. Seawan's a good dude. 40 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: He does more for the movement than ninety nine point 41 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: ninety nine nine percent of the people on Earth, and that, 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: you know, I should feel really good about interview with 43 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: Sean King. I thought the interview was fire. If you 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: missed it, it was last week's episode. 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All right, this 61 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: was recorded almost three weeks ago and we've been holding 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: on to it because his album is about to come 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: out and Conway was the reason why I got into Griselda. 64 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: So this guy is an elite MC solid dude, has 65 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: a crazy story and I might even throw in I 66 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: think this is probably the best interview he's ever done, 67 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: so at least that I've seen. I mean, no biased. 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. The Conway the Machine 69 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: episode of the boutleg Cat podcast. Thank you so much 70 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: for tuning in every week. Thank you. I appreciate it. 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Share it with your people. Let's get to it. Boutle 72 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: care Podcasts. We got Conway the motherfucking Machine, Ladies and gentlemen. Yes, 73 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: it's good, yo, man. I gotta thank you because you 74 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: pulled up on me last night. You're in l A. 75 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, we'll talk about what you're doing in l 76 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: a little bit later, but you in l A and uh, 77 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: you played me to your albums, the Shady Records debut, 78 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: which is which is you know to be determined? When 79 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: that when when the rest of the world hears that 80 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: they're not going to be disappointed by the way. Uh, 81 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: and then you're a new project that is, you know, 82 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: ship a little bit for everybody on there. Man. Yeah, yeah, 83 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: like I say, Man, know, I purposely try to like 84 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: go outside of you know what people like my fans 85 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: may expect coming from me, because I put out a 86 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: lot of tapes that's just like you know, I be 87 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: on my just super grimy rap bag, and I'd be 88 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: wanting to just keep my my same chemistry, my same formula. 89 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: But like Damren during Alchemists, you know, yeah, but I 90 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: fucked with some you know, some different producers I never 91 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: worked with, like Havoc, you know what I'm saying. And 92 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: you got Havoc out on the hook too. I have 93 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: it on the hook. So I wanted to defend Eric Simon, 94 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: my deep Eric Simon on there and you know my 95 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: man treasy heat. You know, I'm becoming a man through 96 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: like this Instagram that's the change record and that beat 97 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: is crazy. Yeah. So I just try to, you know 98 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, try to go with my approach a 99 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: little different, that's all, but it's still the same, same, 100 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: same machine, same you know. The bars is pressure, you 101 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I'm happy with him, man, 102 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's some of my best ship. Yo. 103 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: It's incredible, and I think that what makes you you. 104 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: You had a great reference yesterday when we were in 105 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: the studio talking. I'll let you break it down. When 106 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: you think of Griselda as a human body like you, 107 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: you said, Gun is the brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we's 108 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: Danny is the muscle. I forget what you said, daring 109 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: respiratory system, but you're the heart. Yeah. I put the 110 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: emotion in it, you know what I'm saying. You know, 111 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: musically I put I put you know, just that feel 112 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: that that you know what I mean. You listen on 113 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: my ship, if you it's like if you know, you know, 114 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: and if you know that should have make like the 115 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: hair on the back of your next stand up. You 116 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: get goose bumps listening to my ship facts what I'm saying, 117 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: and I just feel like Darren, j'all call, I'm like 118 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: the respiratory system because like that production and that you know, 119 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: that's the sound. So that's like, that's the what broke 120 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, that was the breath, that was the oxygen 121 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: and to make it all work. You know what I'm saying. 122 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: The brain and the heart ain't gonna work without oxygen, 123 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I look at it like that, 124 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: and I'm just thankful for them doors. And so when 125 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: we're talking, like, uh, you being so like you be 126 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: in the heart of the crew, and I feel like, 127 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: what would makes what people people relate to you? Like 128 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: you said, it's that pain in your music, bro, And 129 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: what made you want to be put yourself out there 130 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: and be so vulnerable on records? Because a lot because 131 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: like you're obviously you know, you talk about the other ship, 132 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: the street ship, the coke shit, all that shit. But 133 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: you also I think you're you're vulnerable in a way 134 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: that not a lot of artists allow their fans in on. 135 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: Like you know, there's not a lot of people who 136 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: talk in deepthly about personal life and experience. Like what 137 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: made you make that decision? I don't know, man. I 138 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: think it was a part of, like, you know, the 139 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: rehab that I had to put myself through after when 140 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: I got shot, right, I'm saying, I had to overcome 141 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: like a lot of like to get my confidence back up, 142 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: to get my you know, I didn't even you know, 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: I didn't even want to leave a house and all 144 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: type of shit like my parents. I just wasn't comfortable 145 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: with my parents at that time, and I just had 146 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: to you know, move different and think different. And I think, 147 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, what helped me being able 148 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: to deal with you know that that uh you know, 149 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: being you know, depressed and all that shit over over 150 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: my parents and shit. I think I had to just 151 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: kind of like I think, being more honest and being 152 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: more transparent and my music kind of helped me open 153 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: up almost like there was like a burden lift off 154 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: your shoulder, like just be free. I don't remember which 155 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: record this was Conway, because I listened to so many 156 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: songs last night. But when we talk about you speaking 157 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: about your demons and your experiences and shit, you were 158 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: talking about your drinking problem right right on cue as 159 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: I'm taking a sip, right and now, I mean, look 160 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like we all got 161 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: our fucking demons, right, Like, you know what I'm saying, Like, 162 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: do you do you consider yourself someone who's like an 163 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: alcoholic at all? Yes? Yes, I'm I consider myself an alcoholic, 164 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, functioning of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, 165 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean like I don't know. I feel like it's 166 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: levels to that word like you know what I'm saying, 167 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: Like I ain't. I've seen some alcoholics that just turning 168 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: on like bombs and like win no whinyl, you know 169 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I do you know, I enjoy 170 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: a nice cocktail with dinner, you know what I'm saying, 171 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: Or cord I'm in a store, I'm definitely gonna let 172 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: me back off a bottle of douce or something. You 173 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Has that how you always have been? 174 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: Or was that something? Because obviously, like you said, man, 175 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: like you got shot, you come out of the hospital. 176 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: You I can only imagine how hard it is to 177 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: like like you said, like you being able to talk 178 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: about it in your music it helped you like feel 179 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: free and shit. But I can imagine, you know, going 180 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: through some shit like that. That's gotta be like like 181 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: you gotta, like, like you said, depression is involved, Like 182 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: did you resort to like alcohol to help you get 183 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: through some of that shit? Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, 184 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I used to I used to, 185 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: like I said, like for me, like I would be 186 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: drinking and shit to try to, like so I can 187 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: keep shit off my mind, not be thinking about the 188 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: shit that I'll be depressed about it, like a lot 189 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: of things that you know, I've been going through over 190 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, you know what I'm saying. 191 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: So I just like like hide behind a bottle kinda 192 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I've been able to you 193 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The best thing you could do 194 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: is just face shit, you know what I'm saying. They 195 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: add on like sometimes you just gotta look look shit 196 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: and look your demons in the eyes, like you know 197 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's how you get get past them ships, 198 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: get over them shits, you know what I'm saying. And 199 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: so out. You know, I definitely, uh, you know what 200 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: i mean, gravitated to to the to the liquor and 201 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: shit a little more than usual, you know what I'm saying, 202 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: because it was like I just didn't want to think 203 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: about I just wanted to forget everything and just you 204 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: know what i mean, like just have fun, just be 205 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: a fun like because it's funny, like you know what 206 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like a lot of people like if they 207 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: don't know me or that never been around me, they 208 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: be thinking like like I'm like, I'm screw facing them more. 209 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, yeah, yeah, they be looking at 210 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: you crazy if they don't know your story or like 211 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: they think, yeah, I'm just like I'm on ship, Like 212 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm just this big this mean you know what I'm 213 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: saying bad dudes. So I try to, like, you know 214 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, drink and joke around and stuff kind 215 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: of like the you know what I'm saying to you know, 216 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: lighten the mood, so to speak. But like I said, 217 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: like behind closed doors and shit, like, man, it's a 218 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: lot man, personally, it's a lot professionally. It's something now 219 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: that you're kind of known for it. And on one 220 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: of the records that I heard last night, you had said, 221 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: like I wonder if essentially if you never got shot, 222 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: never had ball the Bell's palsy, would there still be 223 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: murals of you on walls and all that shit. So 224 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: it's like, obviously it's a personal, you know, situation that 225 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: you're dealing with, but I think you also recognize that, 226 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: like it's a part of your hip hop character now, 227 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, absolutely, I definitely accept it. 228 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: And and and wear it. You know what I'm saying, 229 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: more prideful, like more you know what I'm saying, more 230 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: comfortable with you know what I'm saying. The bell's pausey 231 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: and shit, and I do realize. I feel like everything 232 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: that come from as a blessing, you know what I'm saying. 233 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: So God don't make mistakes. God don't make mistakes. So 234 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: this was I feel like maybe this was the blessing 235 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: that I needed because like around the time, like when 236 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: I got shot, like I was, I was, I was 237 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: moving different. I really wasn't taking music serious, you know 238 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we was outside, you know what 239 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I feel like, you know what I mean. 240 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think about it like that, like damn, I 241 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: feel like God just did that, you know what I mean, 242 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: like almost almost like as a signal, like look, man, 243 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: like this, you got so much got you so gifted, 244 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: you got so much potential and so much ahead of you, 245 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: but you ain't taking a shit serious. So you know 246 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: what I'm you know what I mean? Life like that. 247 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: It's crazy too because probably your your verse that you're 248 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: most famous for, the cow right, Yeah, that specific record 249 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: when you talk about your boy getting shot and how 250 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: it was almost like a blessing that you didn't know 251 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: who did it because you could have winning. You would 252 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: have obviously went and gotten revenge. What if and you 253 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been sitting here right because I mean, or 254 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: you might have been, but you know what I'm saying, 255 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: it's almost like you said, like God, don't make mistakes 256 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: like yo, like like you're in this position now now 257 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: they gotta mention you top five. You know what I'm saying, 258 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: right right? You know what I mean? Things could have 259 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: won a lot definitely and been a lot worse. So 260 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: that was another thing that helped me kind of overcome, 261 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: like you know, be on some ship. Like man, what 262 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm tripping for? Like I'm still alive, you know what 263 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm still gonna got money. I could still rap, 264 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: I can still talk, I can still walk, I could 265 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: still fuck before for the show, you know what I mean? 266 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: When I got to be you know what I'm saying, 267 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: what did Uh? I was at the Noble tonight, the 268 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: whole was there and uh when when you got off stage, 269 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: you guys had a conversation after you did the cow right, 270 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: what was that short? You know exchange between you two 271 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: was it? It was pretty much like about that, like 272 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: just like man, like, you know what I'm saying, be 273 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: proud of like how far you made it, and like 274 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: where the ship you're doing and where you taking it 275 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: to like nigga, you you see what you're doing out here? Yeah, 276 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: let them tears out, let them shit fall, you know 277 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And and and really just asking me 278 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: about after that. We were just really talking about, uh, 279 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: that that song I did it Overdose. He was just like, Yo, 280 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: what's that song you did? Like three songs back? That 281 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: shit crazy? You know what I'm saying? That uh shit 282 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: out there with Alchemists called Overdose. We were just talking 283 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: about that. But it was just really just letting me know, 284 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: like and it was just I needed to hear that 285 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: from somebody like him, like man like, because I had 286 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: broke down on stage and shit lying and all that, 287 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, I don't be knowing 288 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: how to like suppress that shit. Man. Sometimes it just 289 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: be it has to come out because I've been out, 290 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: like lashed out at somebody. It had just going to 291 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: come out in some other way, some other way, a 292 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: negative way. Possibly. Yeah, that's why I appreciated hearing that 293 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: from him, Like, man, don't don't don't don't hold that in, bro, 294 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: don't hold it in. Like let that out, man, that's 295 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: real ship, Like, let that ship out, Man, don't worry 296 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: about that. You know. What's crazy is as as as 297 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: like as much as that verse like penetrating my soul. Bro, 298 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Like you got some new ship that is crazy, as 299 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: far as like the pain ship. Like man, man, you 300 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: was playing some ship last night that was real, real deep. 301 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: You know. I feel like like you you you were 302 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: saying you were like, Yo, there's so much stuff that 303 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: like like you've been through a lot, bro, Your your 304 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: life is crazy as far as just like a lot 305 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: of tragedies that you had to deal with. Yeah, you 306 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. People close to you, you know 307 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, ship like that you almost dyeing yourself 308 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: and then even just kind of seeing like how hip 309 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: hop we've lost a lot of people recently, Pop smoke, 310 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: rest in peace. You know what I'm saying. Wow, And 311 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: you're somebody who actually was like really involved with shit, 312 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: right have you had a hard time with you know, 313 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: you're moving around different cities shit like that, Like do 314 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: you ever like I don't know if you got problems 315 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: in the streets or whatever, but do you ever like 316 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Biggie was super paranoid, you know what I'm saying, Like 317 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: you heard it in his music, Like when you like like, 318 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: do you ever find yourself looking over your shoulder like 319 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: or just being like can you ever just relax being 320 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: conway now that you're you know what I'm saying, with 321 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: the life you've lived, honestly, No, Like no, I tried to, 322 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna keep it a thousand like I tried. 323 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: I tried being on that type of time like chilling 324 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: and relaxing, like I don't have no problems like in 325 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: the streets, like no beed like you know what I mean, 326 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: I don't be on that type of time. I was 327 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: one of them dudes. That's why a lot of people 328 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: in my city like niggas that's in the streets and 329 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: shiit like that kind of like like respect how and 330 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: move like and look up to me, because like I 331 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: was one of them dudes that put all that shit 332 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: on the back seat. That shit took a back seat 333 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: to this music shit. I like, after I got shot, 334 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: I realized, like you know what I mean like this 335 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: shit ain't ain't it ain't what it is. I even 336 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: I went broke, you know what I'm saying, and all 337 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't hustling. I went broke, and I was just 338 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: like because I'm like, I'm not going back in the 339 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: hood like I'm chilling. I'm over here Darrens your house, 340 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: recording and just working on my craft, getting better at 341 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: rapping because I was still kind of like trying to 342 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: find my lane because I couldn't really like when my 343 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: jaw couldn't really open my ship that well, I was 344 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: like your way to rest, you know what I'm saying. 345 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: So I'm still getting myself together, but at the same time, 346 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: I already had my mind made up like like this ship, 347 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: the streets, even the streets everything, Like when you're making sacrifices, man, 348 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: like everything gotta if you want something bad enough, sometimes 349 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: you gotta make like some difficult sacrifices man, like you know, 350 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: ship time, where my family, my kids? Of course, yeah, 351 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: that's what anything being broke. I tell the home low 352 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: homies all the time, like sometimes you got to learn 353 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: how to be broken bored sometimes, like niggas be broken, 354 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: niggas be boring. Niggas go outside, they end up fucking 355 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: doing some dumb shit because yep, sometimes you gotta know 356 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: how to just like man broke one out, you know 357 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But back to what you're saying, Like 358 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, I try to to you know, remove that 359 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: that that street paranoise of knowing, because I know how 360 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: the streets is. The streets is nasty, especially like for 361 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: rappers like niggas in this like niggas, rappers ain't safe 362 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: just because you're a rapper like you, you know, there's 363 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: somebody in that city who you know, you might get 364 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: caught slipping. Like, Bro, I got robbed. I got robbed 365 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Bro, this is the this is the first 366 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: day of the first uh that tour that ended at 367 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: the Noble. The first show was in Atlanta. I'm leaving 368 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: them all, nigga, nigga call me lacking, you know what 369 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Snatched the door open, you know what I'm saying. 370 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: But I just charged that ship to the game because 371 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: I know how sometimes you gotta you gotta learn when 372 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: to take the l like you know what I'm saying, Well, 373 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, but but that's what it is. So now 374 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: that paranoia is back. Now. You know what I'm saying. 375 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: I gotta have you know what I mean, A fifty 376 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: clip on the A yo, not not for nothing. When 377 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: that kind of shit happens to you the raide, you feel, Yeah, 378 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: I got the feeling too comfortable, man, because I'm the 379 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: type of nigga like I have no fears or nothing 380 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: of nobody like you feel me like, I know, God, 381 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: all the ship I've been through, if I could get 382 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: through that, nigga, I ain't worried about no nig or 383 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: nothing happening to me. So I'll be everywhere by myself. 384 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: You see how I pull up here? Yeah? Me, you 385 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Chad, that's it, That's it. I 386 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: don't really move with a gang. I don't have no fears, 387 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what I mean, I got 388 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: lost in that comfort zone. So now you know I'm back. 389 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: You know what I man, I'm back, yok situated. We 390 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: was talking about how you guys kind of have have 391 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: lived through so many eras of hip hop right and 392 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: that there was a point in time that one O 393 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: six and park ship like where you where you might 394 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: not have been necessarily making the music. We know you 395 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: for making at the moment, I'm curious, like the Griselda sound, 396 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: you and Gun at at what point in time do 397 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: you feel like you guys figured that out where you 398 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: guys were like, yeah, this is like because it obviously 399 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: wasn't off the rip like when you guys felt like 400 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: you guys was pocket it was off the rep. But 401 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: we we we we got we got blinded. Like most 402 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: rappers are trying to chase hit what's popping? And you 403 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean, what's something? What we think people 404 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: going like like this is what they want to hear 405 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: popping some bottles stand, you know what I'm saying. So 406 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: we kind of, you know what i mean, deviated. But 407 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: the funny thing is is like we are family, but 408 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: it ain't like we never really like joint forces like 409 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: like that until like later on in life far as 410 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: like being a group or a label, you know what 411 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So everybody was individually doing their own thing, 412 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like Benny was doing him 413 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: I was doing making music and doing what I'm doing 414 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: with and West was was you know what I'm saying. 415 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: He lived down south, he lived in Atlanta, and he 416 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: was like you know, working around like in the streets, 417 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: he was, you know, west to tell you like he 418 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: wasn't doing the rapper time and none of that ship 419 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But we all family, and 420 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: he loves hip hop, like you know, he's just you know, 421 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: probably your biggest hip hop fan, just a lover of 422 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: hip hop. So he will always just be around because 423 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: knowing how good I am and then how good Benny getting, 424 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So he would always be. 425 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: But he wouldn't rap in the ciphers. He wouldn't get 426 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: on the records. He wouldn't He wasn't thinking about that. 427 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: But you know, you know after the you know that 428 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: after we we kind of figured that back out, like 429 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, after I got shot, you know what I'm saying, 430 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: and west Side kind of like jumped in the driver's 431 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: seat like, yo, I gotta kind of you know what 432 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I gotta, you know, cause it looked like 433 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: for a minute like I'm you know, I was paralyzed 434 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: from the neck down, like almost some shit like that happens. 435 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: You're like it was over, Yeah, it's over, Like this 436 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: nigga Sam took bro out, you know what I'm saying, 437 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: shot this nigga his head and his neck. This nigga 438 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: peralyanin this nigga the wheelchair can't even move his jaw, 439 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like West. That's 440 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: when West start doing like the hill where her Mas one. 441 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: And then by the time Part two came out, I 442 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: mustered up like one verse on there. I think, I think, 443 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: is that your first verse after getting shot? Yeah? Okay, 444 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: well not after getting shot, but my first verse. Like 445 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: for like Griselda Records, Chazelda Records wasn't even a thing 446 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: when we did Hitler two. Oh, the first actual Griselda record. 447 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: When we thought of it, it was hauling the haul 448 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: of nash Ep. Okay, I'm saying, like, Yo, this's gonna 449 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: be the you know what I'm saying, It's gonna be 450 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: the first tape we're gonna call this ship what you 451 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I remember the phone called 452 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: a conversation like what you think about calling ship Griselda Records. 453 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This would be the first tape, 454 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, off the off, the off 455 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: the label, and it just grew from there, you know 456 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yo, it's crazy. Like I think with 457 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: gun Man. Guns got one of the best minds I've 458 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: ever seen in the in the game, the guys just 459 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: like like you were saying, like he's just he's just 460 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: a visionary. Is there a fireless he's yeah, man like 461 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: and and too like y'all. You know he gonna do 462 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: if you want to do something, he said, he's gonna 463 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: do it and bring it to life. And and you 464 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: guys never ever ever, like Man, I just feel like 465 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: you guys have never pivoted away from like why why 466 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: why you're here? Yeah, which is which is hard to do. 467 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: To do what got you here? You know what I'm saying, 468 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: Keep doing what got you to where you're at. Man, 469 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: you don't try to don't deviate. But it's like you said, 470 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard to do. And that's kind of 471 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: going back to like different King to a God album. 472 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was trying to like steer 473 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: away from, Like I don't want to. I want to, 474 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: you know, differentiate myself from like this project, from all 475 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: the other projects I dropped. But I don't want to 476 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: sound like I'm on some corny ship, right Like you're 477 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: trying too hard. You know, it don't sound like that 478 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: at all, not for sure. By the way, I think 479 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: my favorite line on there is you said the only 480 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: thing you need a bitch for is herd that it was, 481 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: So that's pretty much shit, y'o. What's crazy too is 482 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: when you you got a record and you and Fred 483 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: are kind of developing a cool little chemistry on records. 484 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: This song on this album caught me off guard because 485 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: when I saw you pull it out, I was like, 486 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: oh shit, Gibs Conway was definitely different than what I 487 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: was expected. Talk about y'all's because I saw y'all out 488 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: in Miami together, but talk about y'all's chemistry, and like, 489 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like Griselda Fred, you know Black Thought, 490 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, run the Jewel. I feel like there's some 491 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: Jedis in the game, you know what I'm saying. It's 492 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: like there's the Jedi Club. Royce is one of them, 493 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you and Fred, like 494 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: I feel like between Fred and Grisel the album putting 495 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: out the best hip hop music for the last couple 496 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: of years. What's y'all's relationship and like, you know, that 497 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: chemistry has been wild on records so far, and it 498 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: took a wow for the for the record too, wow 499 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: for y'all to work together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I 500 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: mean give that's my nigga, like Gibbs my nigga. Man, 501 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I got love with Giz. 502 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: Like every time I ever, you know, been around that 503 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: nigga or whatever, it's like it's love show and vice versa. 504 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: Like anytime he come around me, I try to, you 505 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, show the utmost love and respect 506 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: because I respect his craft and I just respect it. 507 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: You know the type of nigga he is, you know 508 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I went on tour with Gibs, so 509 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: I gotta kind of be a little got a little 510 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: closer with him, you know what I'm saying, and to 511 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: be around him a little more than I have in 512 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: the past, and I just got to see what type 513 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: of duty is and you know, I fuck with the nigga, 514 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so it was only 515 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: right like we we always even before like this record 516 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: the Babies and Fools off his tape and shit like that, 517 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: like we've always talked and kicked it and about doing songs, 518 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: doing the record, doing the tape. Yeah, we gotta let's 519 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: do a tape. If y'all did a tape, that should 520 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: be crazytly exactly so. But you know what I mean, 521 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: it just you know what what, I'm one of them 522 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: type of niggas. Everything ain't about rat shit all the 523 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: time to me, So like if I hit you, I 524 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: ain't all the time, like yo, I got a joint 525 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: for you, Yo, Yo, I want you to I need 526 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: I need a worse bro. I need this, Like I 527 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: don't care about that rat shit all the time. Sometimes 528 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 1: I just be genuinely just tapping in, like what up, 529 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: bro with you? What you want you? Guys? Gonna ask you? 530 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: Because I feel like in hip hop, I mean especially y'all, man, 531 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: Like you know, there's there's like very few actual friends 532 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: you'll make in the hip hop business. Absolutely tons of acquaintances, 533 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: tons of people who you wrap up and you know 534 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you'll see it shows, you'll see it evanced, 535 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: but like actual friends that like if your rap career 536 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: went away tomorrow, that y'all would actually still be boys. 537 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Like who's on that list for you? If anybody the 538 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: list is short, I'm gonna be honest with you. Of 539 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: course it is this just short cause you know what 540 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Like you got to keep in mindment a 541 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: lot of these niggas caps, so they're just sometimes they 542 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: say ship, you know, because it sounds good because you 543 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: ran into it. Yeah, you know what I mean. You 544 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: had a nigga and the nigga don't even answer you 545 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: trakes back, but tried to say, you know, resting peace Prodigy. 546 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: That was probably the prategy was early with y'all. Mo. Yeah, 547 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like resting peace to my 548 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: boy Prodigy. Man, that was my real friend. Ray Kwan 549 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: did the intro in the BRAZILA. That's my real friend. 550 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: I like to consider us like real friends. Royce the 551 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: five nine, for sure, that's my brother. Like always love, 552 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: always love. You know what I'm saying, outside of any 553 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 1: rap ship, like you know what I mean. I look 554 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: at it like we two of the Ellis lyricists. Man, 555 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we only got you know, 556 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: one of two or three songs like because it ain't 557 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: about rap, it's genuine love. Flee Lord, that's my brother. 558 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: I remember what which project we heard? The Flee Ship, 559 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: He snapped on that ship though, Yeah, yeah, flee when 560 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: flees on from Kings to a God? Okay, was that 561 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: that ship would have it? Yeah? Yeah, that's right, you 562 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: have it. Action Brons in the Court. I fun with 563 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: act Mayhem, Lorn those like bro friends of mines. You 564 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yo, this is more. But I 565 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: can't think right right right right, So if you didn't 566 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: get named, don't be infected. Right, I'm gonna get a text. 567 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: Damn broll. You don't fuck with me like that. Yeah, 568 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: I just I don't even high right now, baby, something 569 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: that I don't know if we're gonna be able to 570 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: put out or not. But you're in l a helping 571 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: You were helping Kanye write some ship. Yeah, I'm doing 572 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: a little ghost you know, collaboration this man. I'm just 573 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm in a room for the for the 574 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: for the vibe man and the inspiration. Yeah, all other 575 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: Kanye shipped aside. He's one of the greatest artists of 576 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: all time. Uh. And I'm curious how did the relationship 577 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: with you and like, how did you end up in 578 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: that discuss somebody else that I forgot that I can 579 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: saider Kanye like a real friend. You and Kanye you 580 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: would consider him a friend absolutely, You've been around him recently, 581 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: how do you feel like, is he like good? It's 582 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: like he in good spirits, Like he's in good spirits. 583 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: But it's like, see, I don't know because I had 584 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know him prior, prior to what people would 585 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: say him changing and going, you know, going left, you 586 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I don't know. But just 587 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: me being around him, man, I know it's hard. I know. 588 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: I know. I said that on Twitter at the other day. 589 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, he got a good heart, right he 590 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: you know he mean, well, I'm gonna be just totally 591 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: one thousand percent honest. I feel like he just need 592 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, some better, some better guys in his circle. 593 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I saw somebody say like, Yo, man, 594 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: like some better dudes. Sometimes you gotta gotta listen and 595 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: respect them dudes. And you know what, it's all that 596 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: they telling you signing because they love you, doing this 597 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: because they love you, you know what I'm saying. But 598 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: I just hate to see like the all the jokes 599 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: and the you know what I mean, the social media 600 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: ridicule man or my brother man, because like, you know 601 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He going through some things, man, you 602 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and we all go through it 603 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: in life. And of course I'm not, you know, trying 604 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: to condone or make no excuses and ship for him. 605 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: But I love that man, and I'm you know what 606 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean. It's like when I got love for people, 607 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: even if I don't know you or whatever, like I 608 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: just love everybody. I got more love in my heart 609 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: and didn't hate. So like I'm not here to tear 610 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: and tear a nigga down and tell him what he 611 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: can't do or you crazy, you tripping like when he 612 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: now I was, I was, you know what I'm saying 613 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: on the wrench when he you know, he called me 614 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: and Siha was in the studio. He's like, yo, I 615 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: just check the Twitter. I'm just running for president. You 616 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: were in Wyoming right when I got that. But then 617 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: I start seeing like Twitter, you know what I'm saying, Like, 618 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, just the ridicule and all that making fun 619 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: of that man, and I just look at it like 620 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: that's our problem man in the community, Like we we 621 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: too quick to tear tear somebody down. Then it kind 622 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: of build them up. I don't give a fuck niggas say, man, 623 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm mother, man, build me a house on the moon. 624 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: I'll be like, I know that shit gonna be flying. 625 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: Bro Hell yeah, do that shit. I'm just one of 626 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: them type of niggas. I ain't negative, like tearing nobody down. Ye, 627 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: how did that initial like connection happen? Because I do like, look, 628 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Kanye keeps you know, he got pushed around, and we 629 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: got sit high around, and we got some of the 630 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: greatest lyricists of all time around him. But like you specifically, 631 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: how did that relationship start. Did he reach out his 632 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: people reach out it was I really don't know if 633 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: it was like he reached out or whatever. But I 634 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: just remember this was that Sunday after our show at 635 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: the novel last show with a tour, which was right 636 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: before everything shut down, right before that's really my show 637 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: was March seventh, yep, March eighth. We went to Sunday 638 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: service that morning. I remember that, Yeah, I remember, and 639 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: he seen us in the crowd, look like, oh, you 640 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So after this joint, you know 641 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, he bring us in the back of 642 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: the ship or whatever, and we just sitting there and 643 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: Kanye he's a real sporadic like you know, you know 644 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: dude like that. Like he was just like, you know what, man, 645 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: we need to go to Cobbo and just record all 646 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: this energy right now. I looked in the crowd. I 647 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: sent y'all there, you know what I mean, like we 648 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: just need to all just get on the jet just 649 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: go to Cabbo, you know what I mean. Mean and 650 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: Benny looking at each other like ship nigga. We we 651 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: got warrants, you know what I mean. So we ended 652 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: up going We literally ended up going to Wyoming the 653 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: next morning. So the next morning, so tour ends, sore ends, 654 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: next morning, we go to Sunday service. Next morning we 655 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: flying to Wyoming. Wow, you Benny gun was gunn out there. Yeah, 656 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: he came like because I remember he had like a 657 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: meeting with with with guys. Some other hadn't met us 658 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: out there, but me and Benny was already out there, y'all. 659 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, like y'all over some 660 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: First of all, obviously you're helping him with with with 661 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: with creating records, but is there gonna be any sort 662 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: of I don't know if it's is there is there 663 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: any Kanye records where you or Benny are on the 664 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: record with him that exists, not saying they're ever gonna 665 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: come out. I mean you went to Wyoming. I don't know. 666 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a phone call soon, man, but I'm 667 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna keep it a hunted. There's one that's that's a record. 668 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: Benny's not on it, but I was in the room. 669 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm with the nigga. You show me and he like, 670 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: y'all like, I want to just keep your verse on 671 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: there and west to one and then I do the 672 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: third verse type. Shit. Yo, it's wild because like, you know, shit, 673 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: that Wyoming thing is real, Like you know, Push came 674 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: out of the other side of Wyoming with Daytona. Yeah. 675 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: Was there something about being in the middle of nowhere 676 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: like that that was inspiring your creative process because you 677 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: know that shit is in the middle of nowhere like 678 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: Jackson Hole or wherever it is, man, because it's so 679 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: peace and tranquil, right, so peaceful and tranquil man that 680 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: you just ain't got no time to do nothing, but 681 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: kind of your mind has kind of opened up, you 682 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, yeah, man, it's inspiring, especially 683 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: just to being you know, you know, Initially, it's just 684 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: you got to get over the nerves of like, you know, 685 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: it's Kanye right, Like you know what I'm saying, Like 686 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: we in the same you know what I mean, Like 687 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: you Kanye West, I mean, were sitting there like that. 688 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: So you know, I still look at it like I'm 689 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: an upcoming nigga in the game. So there's moments like that, 690 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: I'll be on my leg. Oh man, you've had a 691 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: few of those. First day, it was kind of like 692 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: I was kind of like I had a bad game 693 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: if we talking sports terms, Okay, But the next day 694 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: I did like maybe like two or three songs. And 695 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: the next day, the more comfortable I got, the more 696 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because it's like it's different 697 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: atmosphere than the type of studio atmosphere used to. You 698 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm like, There's no cussing, ain't nobody costing, 699 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: ain't no smoking, no drinking or none of that. It's 700 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: world just it's good energy though, it's great energy. Like 701 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: were you on your Jesus ship when you was rapping? Yeah, okay, yeah, 702 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: so he took you to a different place because I'm like, yo, 703 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: you you on that you talk that talk. You know 704 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Nah, Nah, you know what I'm saying. 705 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: I kind of just I found a way to kind 706 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: of just make it like to where I was just 707 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: thankful for even having a second chance at life and 708 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: be in this position because you know, Hick, like I said, 709 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: could have when left, I could have died when I 710 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: got shot. So I just you know, talked about those 711 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: times were like, you know, I feel like God was 712 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 1: there for me. I mean, you guys have had am 713 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: with obviously you guys do the shady situation. Yeah, hove, now, yay, 714 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: I'll be damned if the Buffalo Boys ain't he ain't 715 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: on or something. Right. This shit is crazy when you 716 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: let me let me ask you something. Because my son 717 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: is My son is h He's fourteen, and he's got 718 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: the weirdest taste in hip hop, like he loves like 719 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 1: the young ignorant shit. But Eminem is his favorite rapper. 720 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: That's crazy my son too, right, Yeah, And and I 721 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: was like, you know, my kid listens to anything I 722 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: play in the car and I played the you know, 723 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: I maybe seven eight months ago, was had the Bang 724 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: remix on, right, and obviously Eminem hopping on one of 725 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: your joints, even though being signed to him is a 726 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: big deal. What is like your approach as an MC 727 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: if you know now and I don't even know if 728 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: you've recorded a song knowing necessarily when you recorded it 729 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: that and was gonna end up on it, but like 730 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: when you know someone like that, it's gonna be on 731 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: the record. Now, you've been on records with Buster, I mean, 732 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: you've been on records with the Who's who? This shit 733 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: so my like and sometimes you record a record I'm 734 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: sure and later on be like, you know what, let's 735 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: try to get this person on it. But when you're 736 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: approaching a record where you know there's and mind you, 737 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: your squad is all killers, but like one of them 738 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: legendary Mount Rushmore names, do you approach like it's almost 739 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: like I feel like it's almost like we're talking basketball, 740 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: like being clutch in the fourth quarter, you know what 741 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the pressure is on, Like it's absolutely man. Oh, 742 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: I mean I handle it pretty well. I just look 743 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: at it like shit, there can't be no worse than 744 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: being in a getting on ship with Benny and West 745 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: Facts and I got with them too. I gotta make 746 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: sure I'm on my I can't let off the gas pedal, 747 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: so like I look at it like that, you know 748 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm just like a I'm an animal man, 749 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: I got animal instinct. Man, I'm trying to I can't 750 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: buy no shape or form be the nigga that I got. 751 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: The Whackers verse on the song, like, I don't care 752 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: who I'm on a song with. I gotta if they 753 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: ain't saying Conway killed it the hardest. I feel like 754 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: you failed. That was a verse for me. Speaking of verses, 755 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: I saw you the other day. Complex put out the 756 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: Best Verses of the Year list, right, and I watched 757 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: the Fire in the Booth freestyle once a week at least. 758 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: That ship, to me is the best verse of the year. Now, 759 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: mind you, it is on a freestyle, but god damn, Like, 760 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: do you still feel like you like because I mean 761 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: like like you had a reason to complain, because I 762 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: feel like you know you are else complaining. Yeah, But 763 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: do you feel like you're still slept on sometimes? Yeah? 764 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: Which is crazy to think. Yeah, And it just you know, 765 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: I just I understand, man. It just comes from you 766 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: know where we're from. You know what I'm saying. I 767 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: just feel like if we was from like one of 768 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: the Burroughs or something, or a big name city, like 769 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: we would get a little more like love from you know, 770 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: our peers and you know some of the gatekeepers before 771 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: us and shit like that. You know what I'm saying, 772 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: But it really ain't fair to say because so that's 773 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: why I don't really say that shit too much no more, 774 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: because like, man, you do the work, you get, you 775 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: get noticed. Man to work, gonna speak for yourself. So 776 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to look like I'm just like on 777 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: like like I'm like I'm Brady or something like, man, 778 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: ain't talking about me, you know what I mean. But 779 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: like I'm just I'm just I'm so confident in my 780 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: in my craft dog that I know, ain't nobody show 781 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: me listen. It's like when Nigga, like when I see 782 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: like the list, which I agree like a lot a 783 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: lot of those verses on that agree with I definitely 784 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: agree with, but like there's no way, you know what 785 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Some of the verses, I don't put out 786 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: this year alone. You know what I'm saying. I don't 787 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: put out probably the most output of music this year alone. 788 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: You can't tell me not one of my ships was 789 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: a top verse of the year. But if you know 790 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: it is what it is, everybody got there on a pane? 791 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: Or is that firing the break? Is that firing? The 792 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: booth verse gonna end up on an actual song because 793 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: I hate that I have to put it up on 794 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: YouTube every time a piece of it dead. Okay, so 795 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: it did ended up on on on flea album album 796 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: almost Fleet put out this year. It was on there. 797 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: But yeah, but like that verse, I feel like the 798 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: second verse of the front Lines joint, it was crazy, 799 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like the way I just 800 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: addressed the whole climate right now with the social ingest. Yeah, 801 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: I told you that last night. I told you that 802 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: last night, that Jim Jones record, that Jim Jones versus too, Like, 803 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, people can't. 804 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: I can't judge with them here or that's true. So 805 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: let me ask you this when when with the emergence 806 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: of Benny right over the last two years, Benny went 807 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 1: from being like, you know, like y'all homie who would 808 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: come along and rap kind of like what like rick 809 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: rick Ricky Hyde is now no, that's her cousin right 810 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: shout out to Rick, and now he's emerging as like 811 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: a star in his own right. Does that like, like 812 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: I wonder between all three of y'all, man, because Gun 813 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: put out Pray for Paris, which is a classic. You know, 814 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: you guys have all had your share of timeless music. 815 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: How is the competition within the crew? Like, is it like, yo, fam, 816 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: I you know, I got you on that ship. Yeah, honestly, 817 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: Tito's back, I got y'all on that ship. Yeah honestly, 818 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: it really ain't. No, like like we're not competing like 819 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: we ain't. It's not on the outside. I'm sure devenside 820 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: niggas like I'm about to kill I gotta kill Bennie 821 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: on this right right my body. I know con we're 822 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: gonna come. I'm about to kill this nigga. I'm sure 823 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: inside it's a competitive you know what I mean? Fun competition, fun, yeah, no, 824 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: friendly all that. Yeah, of course, family, we really champion 825 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: each other and just like we just like salute like yeah, no, 826 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: that shit is crazy, you know what I mean. I 827 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: think that's what's unique about y'all is like even if 828 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: you I mean, you know, like I remember the first 829 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: time I watched the show documentary when I was a 830 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: kid and I saw that Wu Tang didn't get along 831 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: like Method Man and you guys were fighting on the documentary, 832 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait what I fore like we 833 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: old was a little more praise for being able to 834 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: put when I watch that ship like niggas shooting at 835 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: each other in our carp and ship like Residue was 836 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: able to move. For dude, all that give us an 837 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 1: ill him. We alls a huge debt of gratitude. That's facts. 838 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: But I feel like that's unique about y'all. It's like, 839 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: no matter what we know, when when we look at 840 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: that at whoever's album it is, there's gonna be at 841 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: least that one that's got all three y'all on it. 842 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: And you know the ship you played me last night, 843 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: which which ailme is the Spurs record on three is 844 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: from King to a God. Yeah that ship is crazy. 845 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that's one of the ones 846 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: where it's just like I said, like when we all together, 847 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: it's like, you know what I'm saying, Lebron Wade and 848 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 1: Bosh some ship like that we just and that that 849 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: that friendly competition that's burning in the inside all of 850 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: us want to be able to have the flyest ship 851 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: on the joint. I think that's what makes when we 852 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: do it all together, make it best, even with Darringer 853 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,720 Speaker 1: because Darner and the competition too, like deep down the side, 854 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: like I can't have a wacky ship on the album. 855 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: I gotta come with it, come with some Craig and 856 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 1: all three of them morning, I gotta kill you know 857 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 1: what I mean? Ship like that? But like I said, man, 858 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: I think that's you know, we just all like niggas 859 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: being family player huge role too. We just love love 860 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: everything that we do and push each other, like when 861 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 1: it was Benny turned like you said, last two years 862 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: like me and you know me and bro like Noah, 863 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: go ahead, Benny, Like if you look at all our 864 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: freestyles and shit like that, I'll be like, yo, Benny, 865 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: let me here, man, me give what you got, Benny, 866 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And ship like that like 867 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: it was Benny Turner like let's go Benny. Y y'all 868 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: y'all heard up, like y ain't heard nothing yet, Benny 869 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: get him type shit. So we do it. We do 870 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: it like that. Man, I ain't I could. I ain't know. 871 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: I ain't no sucker like that, Like I want to 872 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 1: everyone win Win Eat. The result of album was crazy. Obviously, 873 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: that was like such a big deal because you guys, 874 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean technically, I feel like you guys are on 875 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: Shady for so long, but that was the official first release. 876 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: I think you guys got to have one of the 877 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: illess deals in hip hop because you guys are getting 878 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: your indie shit off all day, but then when it's time, okay, 879 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 1: you know you could do both, which I cannot imagine 880 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people have that kind of freedom to 881 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,439 Speaker 1: run up their indie catalog all the meanwhile being signed 882 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: to you know, Eminem. Yeah, Paul, I feel like Paul was. 883 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's generous when it come to that. You 884 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I ain't trying to get 885 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: in y'all way or nothing, you know what I'm saying. 886 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: We just want to be a part of what y'all 887 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: got going on, right, But I just felt like, you know, 888 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: they Shady couldn't be really a part of none of 889 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,919 Speaker 1: that shit because you know, the samples and all that shit, 890 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: Like our sound is based off like if you was, 891 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: if you're a Day one Griselda fan, you know that 892 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: our sound is based off like Dander doing immaculate sampling 893 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 1: and ship like that, Like our beats it is so 894 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: dark and dusty and that incredible. Yeah, you know what 895 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's how we was able to change kind 896 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: of change the game and shift the culture back to 897 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 1: like you hear a lot of where it is getting 898 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: alchemist beats and fucking you know what I mean, like 899 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: that dam just sounding beats because we kind of shifted 900 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: that shitn't but that ship we was doing. We couldn't 901 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: paul them one ship trying to get all them samples cleared. 902 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: Fucking with that ship. But I think about the whole 903 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: Y'll up with your shady debut. Whenever it comes out, 904 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: is it gonna be mostly sample free? I mean, yeah, yeah, 905 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 1: it's about It's probably about eighty five percent sample free, 906 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: like a lot of them beats you ship you heard, 907 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: I ain't had no samples. I heard the record that 908 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: you You played the record that Wayne was on. Mm hmm. 909 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: Now you got Wayne to like Wayne was you know, 910 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 1: way knew what it was when he got on the record. 911 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: I'll just say that shout out to Wayne. Was that 912 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: a record like we just talked about, Was that like 913 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: one of those records where you knew Wayne was getting 914 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: on it when you cut it. Actually, no, no, I 915 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: had already. I had already made that joint. I had 916 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: already recorded, but I didn't finish it. It was just 917 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 1: like the verse was on my verse and I had 918 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: I think, Yo, Wayne has sent me to the Russian 919 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: Roulette joint. Well his album Me and Benny know, Me 920 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: and Bennie on his album Russian Roulette ship and sent 921 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,240 Speaker 1: that ship back and whatever, and you know in the podcast. 922 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: Then we did the podcast his you know radio shit, 923 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. He he was like, man, y'all, man, 924 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate saw man. Y'all never need me for anything. 925 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: Send it through. Y'all got signed to send it through. 926 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: I said, oh yeah, don't tell me that. Yeah, send 927 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: you something. I'll send it right now. And I sent 928 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: it through. You know, shout out my nigga Mac Maine, Man, 929 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: my nigga Mac Main. Good dude, man, that shit happened. Man, 930 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: that's my dog right there. And shout out to Wayne Man. 931 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: That niggas incredible. We did most shit too. I got 932 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: in the studio with them niggas on Miami and we 933 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: did some more. There's some other ship on a hard 934 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: drive somewhere. Man, Wayne got something crazy. That's a fact. 935 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: Talk about your relationship with KD. Man, KD, I feel 936 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: like has always had such an amazing taste in hip hop. 937 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: That's the first thing I told him. Actually, I tapped 938 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: him up because I went over to his house with 939 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 1: Fred and I was like, hey, man, all bullshit aside, 940 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: Like I've always respected your because I'm a basketball guy, 941 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I got my own 942 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: opinions about the sports ship, you know what I'm saying. 943 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I've always respected your you know, your 944 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: taste in hip hop. It's always the real ship, you do. Like, 945 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: But talk about how y'all linked up and was it 946 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: just from him being a fan of w of what 947 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: y'all do, or like, how did that relationship happen? Yeah? 948 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: Just I I you know it started out. I guess 949 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: he you know, he was he he fucked with the music. 950 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: But you know, my my guy, my big brother set Free, 951 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He he kind of like 952 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: bridged that gap, you know what I'm saying. He he 953 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 1: brought KD to one of my shows in New York, 954 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then from there it 955 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: was just you know, we we was kind of like 956 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: like hung out the whole night, Like we went from 957 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: the show, went straight to the studio and I'm playing 958 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: them songs and from there it's just like it was 959 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: a genuine like you know what I mean, Like we know, 960 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: Nigga pick up on the first second ring for me 961 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: when I called, you know, I was just at his 962 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: house the other day, right yesterday, matter of fact, Oh yeah, 963 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: his house and and and you know what I'm saying. 964 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: But he's a he he definitely a fan of the 965 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: Griselda shit. Like even before like set Free introduced me, 966 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: I seen him like post like shit, like you know, 967 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,760 Speaker 1: him listening and like everybody is full a black tape 968 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 1: or side like that, you know what I mean. And 969 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: you know what I man, But you know, I like 970 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: the thing set Free for you know, making that you know, 971 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: bridging that gap man and shout out the KD. Man, 972 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: that's that's that's my dog yo. Thus far in your career, man, 973 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 1: what has been You've had a lot of these moments, 974 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: But what has been the one surreal moment where you 975 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: like really like you you felt like yeah, I'm like 976 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,919 Speaker 1: I'm doing what I'm supposed to do, Like this ship 977 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: is really like this is where I'm at. I'm at 978 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: exactly where I'm supposed to be at. Like everything I 979 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: did in my life like led up to this ship 980 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: because I feel like a lot you know, on the 981 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: way up. We have those moments. Yeah, yeah, man, I 982 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: would probably say that, you know Whole backstage, you know 983 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, that was that hit me different, 984 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 1: that just sat with me different. You know I'm saying 985 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: like Whole didn't have to do that, Like Whole, I 986 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: just viverly remember like Hole made it his business, like 987 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: this is jay Z. Yeah this nigga. Lakers had a 988 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: game and right across the lay mind you, and then 989 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 1: I was just so impressed by like I think the 990 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: Lakers beat the Bucks that night. It was like his bucks. 991 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: I bet on that game. It was Lakers Bucks. I 992 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: bet on the game. But it's just him and Emery. 993 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,399 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, damn, you are here, 994 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: you had a you know, our type of hip hop 995 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: is defferently the crowds. It's different, like you Dolo, it's 996 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: essentially you know what I'm saying, You and Emery. You 997 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying like I was just gone by 998 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: that and then that he just made his way Like 999 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: when I got off stage and I'm broken down, I'm 1000 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: crying and you know what I'm saying, and fleet arms 1001 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: and all that ship and that nigga like like he 1002 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: walks over, tell me like he came personally to like 1003 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: grab me, like me, like yo, bro, like you know 1004 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: what I mean and do that. That was a huge 1005 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 1: moment for me. But and up until getting nominated for 1006 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: that BET Best Group or right there, it was like 1007 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 1: that was that moment you said, like you know this 1008 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: where this is where I need to be. Yeah. No, 1009 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: I remember reposting that like, man, y'all should have won 1010 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: that though who wanted the Migos. They didn't even put 1011 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: it out mount That's what I understand, you know, you know, 1012 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 1: shout out to the Migos, man offset to real one Bro, 1013 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: shout out the city girls, shout out to everybody that 1014 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: was nominated. Have you guys linked with the Migos at all? 1015 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: Or I mean off set? I never linked with Migos. 1016 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: I know off sets of real hip hop head I 1017 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: linked with like you know, like P, Like shout out 1018 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: to P. You know what I'm saying like him and 1019 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: Coach K came to the Atlanta show. You know what 1020 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That night, Wow, you know what I'm saying. 1021 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: I know why energy probably was a little little different. 1022 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: I had just got ribbed like three hours earlier. Still 1023 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,919 Speaker 1: went like rock that bitch. You know what I'm saying. 1024 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 1: But shout out to p You know what I'm saying. 1025 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: We ended up going You know what I'm saying. We 1026 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: linked with them before he put up to his studio 1027 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,720 Speaker 1: and went out with him and stuff to the club 1028 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: and sh hung up, hung out with him and all 1029 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: that after the after the show. No, this was before 1030 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: we initially linked up at the Javonte Davis fight. You 1031 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That was crazy fighting Atlanta. Yo. 1032 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I hear about him beefing with rappers 1033 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: more than I hear about him. He turned up on Twitter, boy, 1034 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: have you what's your guys' relationship like with fifty Man 1035 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 1: fifty that you know fifty was on the project, which 1036 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: I thought was such an important moment. You know what 1037 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I can't lie like I don't. I don't 1038 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: want to cap and make it saying like I know 1039 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: fifty all like that. I don't got a fifty phone 1040 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: number and ane of that ship, I don't whatever. But 1041 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: any time I ever was around and fifty cent was around, 1042 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 1: fifty cent definitely showed me love, like you know what 1043 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like I'm around my shoulder type shit 1044 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: without nigga laughing joking type shit, you know what I'm saying. 1045 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 1: And I got mad love for I look up the 1046 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: fifty low key just how he did it and did 1047 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: it his way and how he just you know what 1048 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, to take it to where he took it to. 1049 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: I just I just funck with that and I salute that. 1050 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 1: And it's crazy because the last time I seen fifty 1051 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: was when he the unveiling of his Hollywood star I'm 1052 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: and ship or whatever. Then like after his speaks and 1053 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: the Dre was there, right, we go up the stairs 1054 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: like to like the hotel, like on the rooftop of 1055 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: w with some ship to just like through some more 1056 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: like photos and ship or whatever, and and me and 1057 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 1: Western standing there. Obviously we're the only dudes with like 1058 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: hoodies and shit, you know what I mean. But after 1059 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 1: he like he taking pictures with like doctor Dre, and 1060 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean top Dog marshaling them and 1061 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 1: then like before they it was all over, But that 1062 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: nigga made sure he like looked dead at me, like, yo, 1063 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 1: come here, nah, yeah, you the niggas come over here 1064 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: and to prepare with us, you know what I mean? 1065 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: Like that, Like I forever salute that nigga. I feel 1066 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: like y'all are the hard movement group wise energy wise 1067 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: since G UNIT, right because it was you know, I mean, 1068 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 1: I think, you know, Migo's one of the greatest rat 1069 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: groups of all time. But I feel like energy wise, 1070 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: their energy doesn't necessarily match the energy I felt like 1071 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: with G UNIT. Like I felt like with G Units, 1072 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: so much came with that, you know, the way people 1073 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: dressed and there was just so much that came with that, 1074 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: that energy. And I feel like you guys definitely are 1075 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: the first groups or crew whatever you want to call 1076 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: it click since G UNIT. That's given me that like 1077 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: same exact vibe and with that like there's you guys 1078 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: are from Buffalo. But I think that you guys, I mean, 1079 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: all three of y'all sharing the king of New York 1080 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: as a state, maybe not New York City, but you know, 1081 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: I've been seeing a lot of you know, bullshit, people 1082 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: claiming king of New York and I'm like, yo, listen, man, 1083 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: y'all got it? Do you do you feel like yo? Y' 1084 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: like like legitimately like take take yourself, like, but like 1085 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: in New York, you got there's nobody who's fucking with y'all, bro, 1086 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,439 Speaker 1: new York City. That means whatever you want to call it. Yeah, 1087 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean I just look at it like that really 1088 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: ain't my you know what I'm saying, My my my. 1089 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: I want to just be the king of rap that's 1090 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: rap game. Like, I want to be just when niggas 1091 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: be like, you're not asked, and that's the otherest nigga 1092 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: in the game right now. That's what I'm on. That's 1093 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: what I'm after. So like that King of New York 1094 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: shit and all that, I mean, I'm I still I'm 1095 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna say I'm the King of New York too, because 1096 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 1: like shit, like pen wise, I do feel like, of course, like, 1097 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: ain't nobody fucking with me? But I'm not going around 1098 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: beating on my chests and trying to like you know, 1099 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: like slight niggas to say nothing like that. Man. I 1100 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 1: respect everybody, cry. I expect everybody as men, you know 1101 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And shit, I wish everybody the best, 1102 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 1: keeps striving, But I know, like how I carry myself 1103 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 1: like I'm the king of New York, I'm the king 1104 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: of the rap game. You know what I'm saying. I 1105 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: truly believe that when when did you guys really decide? 1106 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know if this was Gun or if 1107 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: this was a group, but I feel like you guys 1108 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: moved in unit set, like with just the aesthetics. It's 1109 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:27,439 Speaker 1: the artwork, it's the merch everything. It's it's it's fly, 1110 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's the painting. Shit, it's it's dark. 1111 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: Like what like, was is that a group collective? Or 1112 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: is that something? Because I know that it was Gun's 1113 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: idea to put the lady on the Griselda cover, right, 1114 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 1: the Lady from Buffalo, But like it was designed a 1115 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: lot of the cover, a lot of the covers coming 1116 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: up like earlier, like in our career, it would design 1117 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the covers and shit like that. But 1118 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: it's just you know what I mean, Like we're just 1119 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 1: students of the game, and we had the benefits of 1120 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: just being older and being able to be around so 1121 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: many different eras of hip hop, or when we be 1122 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: able to watch and learn, like we've seen everybody, the 1123 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 1: best of the best come and do it, come and go, 1124 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and do it how they 1125 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: did it. So we was able to just you know, 1126 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: take notes, take notes and just apply it. But you 1127 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, we're just different, man. We we 1128 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 1: acknowledge the fan. You know what I'm saying. The show well, 1129 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 1: So I like to think of like what type of 1130 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: experience the fans will enjoy most from an artist if 1131 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: it was me. You know what I'm saying. I want 1132 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: to be able to have a collector's edition Vinyl Luna 1133 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: brad Bi it is this artist. I want to have 1134 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: a cassette. They don't even make cassettes no more. But 1135 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,479 Speaker 1: I got this cassette of a nigga dropped the twenty 1136 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: twenty and signed it and it's gold and something like that. 1137 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,919 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that is what's 1138 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, the important and that's the collective thing. You 1139 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm say saying. As far as like the 1140 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: cover iron and a lot of that ship like you 1141 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. West definitely spiritheaded a lot of 1142 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: our earlier covers, like it was just designed to cover 1143 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: like you know what what we was on. Like I 1144 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: was just like, bro, you I don't be in the 1145 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: officers and doing that. I don't want to talk to 1146 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 1: the motherfuckers. Bro, Like go ahead, get us the bag. Bro, 1147 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I'm being here in the studio. What 1148 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: do you feel right now? Man? Obviously the world's in 1149 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 1: the crazy ass place. Hey, y'all got that tour off 1150 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: right in time for shure that we had part two, 1151 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Like I know, you guys had a whole other, a 1152 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: whole other run the cancer get you guys had to 1153 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: cancel it. But like obviously with the coronavirus and uh, 1154 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 1: you know just where the world is man with with 1155 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the murder of George Floyd has changed 1156 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 1: the world. And then now you know, with with the 1157 01:01:55,160 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: election coming up, like like it's it's almost you said 1158 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: something earlier like you kind of took a break from 1159 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 1: the internet. It's almost like it's hard on, Like man, 1160 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's draining to open your phone now, bro, Yeah, 1161 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: turn the nose on, put your phone on, or so 1162 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 1: much bullshit going on it's crazy motherfuckers in the White 1163 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 1: House and all that shit. Yeah, they're bad here, man, 1164 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: it's police going crazy. It's like every time I open 1165 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: my phone, it's like it's bad nose. It's like a 1166 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: snag some some bolls. Shit. Like That's why I don't 1167 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: even be really having my phone on me all like that, 1168 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to talk to nobody, like because 1169 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 1: I know somebody calling me with their problem or the 1170 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: down know that shit. Man, I got my own proble. 1171 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to drink away in my pain. Feel me yoo, Yeah, 1172 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: we got more. I think we killed that bottle duce 1173 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: last night. It got to be the seventeen thirty eight 1174 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: last you've done with my own shit? Yo, Getting back 1175 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: to your you're drinking? You are you in the darker? 1176 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: I knew you're in the dark right now, but what 1177 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: is the preferred uh drink everything he said everything? I 1178 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: really just I really just started back fucking with the 1179 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: dark though I've been untransitioned over to that forty two. 1180 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: The forty two is that ship I fuck with that tequila? Man, 1181 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: that forty It's way smoother. Yeah, but what I really 1182 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: ain't been drinking all like that I'm kind of been, 1183 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I ain't really I don't 1184 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: drink all like that no more. What's the craziest drug 1185 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: you've tried? Because I just did mushrooms for the first time, 1186 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: which was wild. Yeah, that ship was something else. Honestly, 1187 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 1: the craziest shit I tried. It was like some ship 1188 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: called with its Oh the whips, Yeah, were one of 1189 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: my white homeboys. This when I was living in Atlanta. 1190 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 1: It'd be a long time ago. This was a long 1191 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 1: time ago. Guys tried to bring those back. But yeah, yeah, 1192 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I was. I was a long time ago. I was 1193 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 1: homeless in Atlanta and shit, and I met this white nigga. 1194 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: That's so weird. It would have been a white guy, 1195 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know it's crazy, house says 1196 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: and Ship you think that comes from the South. It 1197 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: was like a white dude that allowed me to Man, 1198 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 1: you can crash here, bro, let you stay at his crib. 1199 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Take this whipping. Yeah here try this whipping. You ever 1200 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: had this? You know what I'm saying. And I tried 1201 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: that and it was only like thirtyn't even an't even 1202 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 1: like I was gone before you knew it. And Ship 1203 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: like and it was gone before I knew it. But 1204 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: it was just crazy because it's like I didn't know 1205 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: what the fuck that was, Like, you know what, what 1206 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: about what's the shittiest job you ever had? Conaway? I 1207 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 1: worked at McDonald's in Alabama. In Alabama, and like lou Verne, Alabama, 1208 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: it's like the country. It ain't even like no big cities, 1209 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 1: dirt rolls and ship. How long were you at McDonald's, bro, 1210 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: I lasted about a good month one one man I 1211 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: worked at I worked at McDonald's. I was fifteen. I 1212 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: lasted one shift. Yeah it was over. I tried my yeah, 1213 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 1: fuck all that, yo. So you bounced around a lot 1214 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: as far as like where you've lived obviously from Buffalo. 1215 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: But why were you in Alabama? Well, you know, we 1216 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 1: have family down there. Okay, you know what I'm saying. 1217 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: I was down there, me and West. He's living with 1218 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, Graham Dukes. You know what I'm saying. And 1219 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: should I couldn't? You know, of course I can't be 1220 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 1: no growing ass, you know what I mean, living with 1221 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: somebody and not making get a job and holding it down. 1222 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,439 Speaker 1: So we're just out in Alabama just to get away, 1223 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: like sometimes I just need to get away from the 1224 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 1: streets for a little bit, that's fair. And I was 1225 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 1: able to do that with West Side Gun like he 1226 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: always will be. You know what I'm saying, think it bigger. Yeah, 1227 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: he just would always he you know, he had you know, 1228 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: his mom's side of the family and ship. They made 1229 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: sure that he ain't have to have to grow up 1230 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: like you know, most most niggas in the hood, you 1231 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So they really had ship going on, 1232 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 1: nice stuff and shit like that. So I would go, 1233 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, when I go spend the 1234 01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 1: night at his houses when I would be able to 1235 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: have some pizza or some playing PlayStations right right, right, 1236 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: right right right. You you and Gun are big wrestling guys, 1237 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 1: which has been a big I feel like you guys 1238 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 1: and smoke dizzer kind of a bottle it is, and 1239 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: a brown bag in the truck, brown bag in the truck. 1240 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Ad I'm saying, like with the with the wrestling ship, 1241 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 1: like you know, I give it up to Dizze and 1242 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 1: I give it up to you guys to really kind 1243 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: of uh and shout out to my got Rosenberg to 1244 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 1: kind of make a wrestling cool again. In hip hop. Yeah, yeah, 1245 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 1: you know about a decade ago, like you would really 1246 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 1: be at a wrestling fan. It was like a it 1247 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: was like a scarlet letter, like, Yo, you watched that Bullshita? 1248 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 1: How are you how? Like? Because right now it's fucked 1249 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:58,479 Speaker 1: up because there's no crowd, Like WrestleMania was so crowd 1250 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to watch. Right I'm tapped out. See, I 1251 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie like I love the wrestling ship and 1252 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 1: all that, but I wasn't like no big, big wrestling 1253 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 1: head ass nigga like West and doz Gun is ahead. 1254 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 1: You'll like, he'll like travel and go to the little 1255 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: indie shows. Okay, okay, that's rather spend my money in 1256 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 1: something else. That's fair. But you know what I'm saying again, 1257 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 1: that just goes with back into you know, knowing what 1258 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 1: what a fan want, Like you got to cater to 1259 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 1: the fans. Man. People love wrestling, Yeah, people love movies, 1260 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 1: people love ship like that, you know what I mean? 1261 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: Like kind of like with Wu Tang with the karate flicks. 1262 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Who don't love karate flicks? Especially back then like in 1263 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 1: the ninth if he was listening to hip hop, you know, 1264 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 1: the age to really understand what niggas was doing in 1265 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 1: ninety two, ninety three, ninety four. Then you grew up 1266 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: in a Kung fu flick era and if you didn't 1267 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 1: you listen to Wu Tang, and then you wouldn't found it. 1268 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, yeah, with the rest of 1269 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 1: the shit, y'all do for sure, right? You know what 1270 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's facts. We were talking last night. You 1271 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 1: were talking about the eras that you've lived through, and 1272 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: I think it's dope that, like you said, like, yo, 1273 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 1: look we're older, like we've lived some life, and it's 1274 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 1: almost probably better that you guys are hitting your stride 1275 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 1: now because maybe if you would have hit it when 1276 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 1: you were twenty two twenty three, shit might have got crazy. 1277 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But like what the eras 1278 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,639 Speaker 1: of hip hop you lived through? You know, I think 1279 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,639 Speaker 1: you and I probably got similar taste in music. I'm curious, 1280 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 1: what are you like three or four albums of all time? 1281 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,679 Speaker 1: Like if you had to, if you had the Lord forbid, 1282 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 1: do a bid, and you had one iPod with and 1283 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,559 Speaker 1: you can only put three or four projects on there, 1284 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 1: what are you What are you taking with you that 1285 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 1: aren't your own or Griselle. Obviously we asking like my 1286 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 1: favorite or your favorite thing is not the best because 1287 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: it's two different conversations, right, That's why I'm a cla 1288 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 1: your favorite hmm, that's crazy. That's different because always getting 1289 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: too with Kanye people because I know his best album 1290 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,639 Speaker 1: is my beautiful dark Twist of Fantasy, but my favorite 1291 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 1: album is like Registration. You know what I'm saying. So 1292 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 1: it's not they're not the same. Your favorites. I would say, definitely, uh, 1293 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,639 Speaker 1: Doggy Style best West Coast hip hop album ever. I agree, 1294 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,799 Speaker 1: I've been screening one. I wouldn't be mad if somebody 1295 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 1: said the chronic was. But either way, right, I think 1296 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 1: doggy styles. I take Doggy Style. I like Doggy Style. 1297 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I would take Doggy Style. I would take helter skeltering Nocturnal, Okay, 1298 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: I would take It's getting tricky because that dad press 1299 01:09:51,439 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 1: let's get free. Yep, reasonable doubt for me. It was 1300 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 1: written for me. It was written all right, you know. 1301 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 1: I respect that man. I will say, like, you know, 1302 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: the Purple tape and Iron Man, hey man, not to 1303 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: have some wool. So it's like it's hard for me 1304 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: to just take three or four. I'll be fucked up. 1305 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 1: You know what's funny that you said Healter Skelter because 1306 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 1: you know, Sean Price was one of my favorite MC's 1307 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,720 Speaker 1: and uh and when he died, man, it just it 1308 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: was it was it was tough because I was such 1309 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean I used to buy his vinyl. Was like, 1310 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 1: I love Sean Price, but I feel like you in particular, 1311 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 1: there's something about you the way you deliver rhymes that 1312 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 1: kind of as a Sean Price fan, it kind of 1313 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 1: hit me. Not saying that you're like sound like Price, 1314 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,640 Speaker 1: but you feel me like like like the way you 1315 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 1: just maybe it's just not giving a fuck my last 1316 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 1: name Price. Man, this is Sean Price vibes. Man. I 1317 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: mean I feel like Ruck is like probably taking I mean, 1318 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: it's either him or Black Thought, my opinion, the most 1319 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 1: underrated mcs. You know what I'm saying. Like p was 1320 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: so crazy, bro, Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. 1321 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 1: That was like I said, man, I would listen to that. 1322 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 1: I know that album front to back. You know what 1323 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I can wrap that ship word for word, 1324 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And there was some more 1325 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,720 Speaker 1: niggas that I just you know, I looked up to 1326 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,640 Speaker 1: and studied and and fucked with their craft and how 1327 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: they did that ship like, I love it. I love 1328 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 1: I love that album. I love to help the Skelter. 1329 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,639 Speaker 1: Shout out to Bernardette and rest in peace, Sean Price, 1330 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Shout out to my nigga rock, my nigga rock Nests. 1331 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you you mentioned it 1332 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 1: Ray Kwan earlier. What about Ghosts? You you have you 1333 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 1: linked up with ghost at all as far as like 1334 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: a like, like at least having a relationship with them. 1335 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 1: Ghost is my one of my top five all time. Yeah, 1336 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 1: like I never I never linked with Ghosts, like you 1337 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like like you said, like no relationship, 1338 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,439 Speaker 1: ship or whatever, Like the way I like I pull 1339 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 1: up to the studio where I've been out to eat 1340 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: with Ray Korn. You know what I mean, Chill, we 1341 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 1: did we party together. We don'e did shit together, you 1342 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like Ghosts, I would always see him, 1343 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: like you know in the trailer we like on the 1344 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 1: same bill out of like at festivals and stuff, like 1345 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,600 Speaker 1: when he was like Rowland Loud New York. We was 1346 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 1: on the same bill. I'll go on the trailer out 1347 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: because you know, they all know me. I'm fun. They 1348 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 1: all shows love like. That's one thing I can say, 1349 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: man about the woo like And I love about them 1350 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 1: niggas because a lot of time, like you know, the 1351 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 1: artists that came before the niggas be kind of like 1352 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 1: stingy with that, with that lot, they don't want to 1353 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 1: let go you got it sometimes, like man, sometimes you 1354 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: got to just embrace little you know what I mean, 1355 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the young little homies that's coming up, man like, So 1356 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,800 Speaker 1: I love the wool for that because they always like, man, yo, 1357 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 1: y'all boys killing that shit. Keep doing what y'all doing. 1358 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,799 Speaker 1: I love that shiit each and every one of the members. 1359 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, shout out to you know, 1360 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 1: you had a line on one of these songs where 1361 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 1: he was like they say Darren Dremin, they remind Rizza. 1362 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: You remind me of somebody who in the face with 1363 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 1: it was crazy. You know, have you got because you know, 1364 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 1: I feel like Rizza don't produce like that no more. 1365 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: But I feel like you know that's I don't know 1366 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 1: you guys haven't worked with Rizzi yet, right, No, not yet. 1367 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: I just feel like that. Don't say nothing, but we spoke, 1368 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he's tapped in yeah 1369 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,600 Speaker 1: about you know, he wanted to you know, like, you know, 1370 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 1: we gotta do some ship, but we ain't do nothing yet. 1371 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's coming. I was just hoping that that 1372 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: battle kind of sparked his interest in doing rap again 1373 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 1: because he got so much other ship going on. Yeah, 1374 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 1: I would love. That's like a bucket list ship for 1375 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 1: me to be in the studio Rizi. You know what 1376 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying about it though the way, well from the 1377 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 1: stories I heard, I don't know this want to, but 1378 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 1: just the stories I heard, like I probably wouldn't even 1379 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 1: be in the same room with the rim, Like I 1380 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 1: probably just go there, lay my verse and then this 1381 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 1: time I gotta live and then you hear it. We 1382 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,680 Speaker 1: it just don't even sound like what I did or 1383 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 1: what I rapped on. I heard. That's how he do 1384 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 1: so well, that's buckle list to work with the Rizord. 1385 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Kanye was one. I can check that onf eminem check 1386 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,639 Speaker 1: that off. So Benny said he's got some joints with Drake. 1387 01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:29,479 Speaker 1: Yeah that that yeah, Yeah, like it is just like 1388 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 1: we're talking about like I feel like, man, your bucket's 1389 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,639 Speaker 1: got to be getting shorter, at least the squads because 1390 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I worked with everybody, man, so it's like, who was 1391 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 1: the who was your who was your first big feature? 1392 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: Rock Marciano? That that rock on my mind, one of 1393 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 1: the most underrated whatever. We got Rock Marciana and popped 1394 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,800 Speaker 1: the bottle and on and we got the words back. 1395 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:54,639 Speaker 1: Did you have to pay for the rock Verse? Crazy? Crazy? Right? Hey, man, 1396 01:14:54,800 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 1: he's an incredible I just man like outside of that, 1397 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 1: like prior, its like that was just like Dick fans 1398 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,759 Speaker 1: like crazy blew my mind was Cool Gie Rap reached 1399 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 1: out and one of it was on Cool g Raps. 1400 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: I want to say it was his last album, one 1401 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 1: of them maybe the last album. Did you guys send 1402 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 1: the Verse in or did you guys meet up? We 1403 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 1: sent it in. We sent it. That's got to be crazy. 1404 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 1: We did the ship. We recorded that ship in Texas, 1405 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 1: someone from the world. We're just down there for south 1406 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 1: by Southwest, hustling and ship passing out CDs. That ship's 1407 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,599 Speaker 1: got to be over with the COVID ship. I don't 1408 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 1: know how that's ever coming back. Yeah, No, it's wild, bro, Like, 1409 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 1: I just don't see how. I just don't see how 1410 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 1: that ship is possible. Move over sh crazy, it's crazy, man. 1411 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 1: Well look you got two albums on the way, yeah, 1412 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:56,120 Speaker 1: two of them. What is it like with m Let 1413 01:15:56,160 --> 01:16:01,160 Speaker 1: me ask you, like the process of turning the album 1414 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: into eminem does he give you a lot of feedback? 1415 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 1: Is it like have you like, like, do you kind 1416 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 1: of know like the ship that he's looking for to 1417 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 1: make the album or or do you guys for the 1418 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 1: most part, he trusts you guys creatively. I really I 1419 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,600 Speaker 1: don't know if I can't answer that fully because I 1420 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: never We hadn't handled in no projects. Yeah, well you 1421 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 1: know what we're gonna do, right what I'm saying, And well, 1422 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: like I know that I've played God don't make mistakes 1423 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,560 Speaker 1: for him in Detroit. I went to his studio in 1424 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 1: Detroit and I played it for him and Paul, and 1425 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 1: you know, he had nothing to say. Everything was like, Yo, 1426 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: this this ship is crazy. This this this, this ship 1427 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:48,440 Speaker 1: is crazy. So I never ever heard any like feedback 1428 01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,599 Speaker 1: or like yo, nah, do this change that I think 1429 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: you should wrap on this beat or do this? Like 1430 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 1: I never was so I feel like, you know, shit, 1431 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,800 Speaker 1: he want us to just do what we do. You 1432 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeahmer, we were talking last night 1433 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,600 Speaker 1: and I heard the album and I was like, this 1434 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 1: is perfect because I I remember when slaughter House dropped 1435 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 1: on Shady and they tried to do the radio thing, 1436 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,760 Speaker 1: and there was a record you played last night that 1437 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 1: probably never come out, that was on some radio shit 1438 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 1: that was fly as fuck. But I feel like you're you, 1439 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:25,760 Speaker 1: like like we were saying, like shit, man, like you you. 1440 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:30,600 Speaker 1: I think you found a great place sonically where you 1441 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 1: could do new ship and still stay true to yourself staates, 1442 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,560 Speaker 1: true to your your core fan base and not necessarily 1443 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of cats be reaching for hits 1444 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 1: and then it's like disappointing. You'll be like, dog, why 1445 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 1: did you put this step right? Because that was reaching. 1446 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 1: They was reaching. You know. You gotta understand, like the 1447 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 1: all the hits that came on that we considered hits, 1448 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 1: they just didn't go in there like Yo, I'm gonther 1449 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 1: go man, I want to make a hit. You know 1450 01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,400 Speaker 1: it's organic. You don't know gonna be ahead. That's how 1451 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 1: I look at like, you don't know what's gonna be it. 1452 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,560 Speaker 1: You gotta just go in down and make music with 1453 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 1: your heart and not what your thinking. You know, nobody 1454 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying. It'd be songs that 1455 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,760 Speaker 1: I've done the tapes and when I let somebody hear 1456 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,640 Speaker 1: the song that I had in mind, like this, the 1457 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 1: single that's gonna be the one when people hear this. 1458 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 1: Motherfucker's fucked with a whole different a whole different record, 1459 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you never know. You 1460 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you've been known to do 1461 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:34,880 Speaker 1: that obviously Alchemists collab project, Lulu. Is there anybody else 1462 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,680 Speaker 1: who you have interest in doing a collaboration project with 1463 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,559 Speaker 1: now that's either a producer or artist you know. Earlier 1464 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,639 Speaker 1: you and You were saying you and Gibbs kicked around 1465 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: the idea, like who's somebody who you want to or 1466 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,439 Speaker 1: is there something that's actually in the works for somebody 1467 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 1: that that like, because like I said, man, I really 1468 01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 1: I'm at the space and all like I'm gonna be 1469 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,160 Speaker 1: this man, like I really don't I really don't give 1470 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 1: a fuck about work with no niggas, Like I don't 1471 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: really fuck with nobody man, And I don't really you 1472 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't want nobody to fuck 1473 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 1: with me. Just leave me alone. I don't care about 1474 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,120 Speaker 1: working to collab it because I don't tried being that 1475 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,479 Speaker 1: type of artist reaching out, Hey man, let's do a joint, man, 1476 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,599 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, take my number, man, 1477 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,560 Speaker 1: call me, yeah, let's do it. Send it dude, and 1478 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 1: then you know, I don't get it back or I 1479 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,439 Speaker 1: don't get a text back and shit like, I don't 1480 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: play like that, you know what I'm saying. So I 1481 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: gotta learn to just I've learned to just don't even 1482 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 1: expect nothing out of these niggas because I've been gonna 1483 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,240 Speaker 1: put my hands on one of these motherfuckers on you 1484 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't like playing. Don't cap 1485 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 1: to me, like, just keep it a hundred, just keep 1486 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 1: it a buck. Yet, just keep it a buck, keep 1487 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 1: on that lip service, but I would probably believe it 1488 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: or not. I want to do a take with Stevie J. 1489 01:19:54,960 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 1: Word yeah, okay, like legendary producers, people forgetting because he 1490 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 1: be on the TV. Because Stevie J Is a legend, legend. 1491 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 1: Go the mons as a nigga, all that all the 1492 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 1: craziest ship you heard of early Big and the whole 1493 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,120 Speaker 1: nigga you think made that ship. I feel like it'd 1494 01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 1: be kind of crazy to hear you on some like 1495 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 1: Dame Grease Ship or I wanted I would love to 1496 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 1: hear you in d m X do some ship. Man. 1497 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely ya. But on the flip side of what I 1498 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,120 Speaker 1: just said before that, like I'm really open to like 1499 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, yo, you in DMX, I 1500 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 1: don't object to work with no niggas, but like I'm 1501 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 1: not doing the reach out no more. No, I get 1502 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,880 Speaker 1: that what I respect that. Man, anybody want to work 1503 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 1: with me, Man, let's get it. Let's let's let's work. 1504 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 1: I know me and dave E talked about doing the 1505 01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 1: tape that Craze get that done. Like I said earlier, Man, 1506 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 1: gives have spoken about that. You know what I'm saying. 1507 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,240 Speaker 1: But you know, right now, what about you? What about 1508 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we have outa project, but what about 1509 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,920 Speaker 1: just you and Benny. We talked about that a lot 1510 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 1: as supposed to. You know, we're gonna get that out song. 1511 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna get that done. So I feel like it 1512 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: gotta happen, man, you know what I'm saying. For the culture, 1513 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,679 Speaker 1: for the culture, for the Griselda fans, you and Benny, 1514 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 1: even if it's a little six piece. Yeah yeah, yeah, No, 1515 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna come. That's coming, that's gonna come. Well, look man, 1516 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 1: the one we do. Conway, appreciate your time, bro go 1517 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,840 Speaker 1: support uh man everything this God does. You got so 1518 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 1: much music that comes out, like what like the Big 1519 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,719 Speaker 1: Ghost Ship. I didn't even like to see you promote 1520 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 1: that ship. I was like, it just popped up on 1521 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,720 Speaker 1: my Spotify feet. I was like, what is this ship? Yeah, 1522 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, man, I'll be cooking. Man, you know, I'll 1523 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,680 Speaker 1: be cooking. Man, shout out the Big Ghost you know 1524 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. Salute for even even thinking of having 1525 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 1: me on that, doing that with me. And that was 1526 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,800 Speaker 1: just a project he was doing, you know what I mean, Like, Yo, 1527 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I need a couple of 1528 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: verses like let's get it man, Like I said, Man, 1529 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm working whoever you want to work with me. Man, 1530 01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: I'm with it. Conway the Machine, Yes, sir, boom So 1531 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:00,800 Speaker 1: Lou