1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: As we stand here today, one year since January six, 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: two twenty one, we are in a battle for the 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: soul of America, a battle that, by the grace of God, 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: the goodness of gracious greatness of this nation, we will win. 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Dates that occupy not only a place on our calendars, 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: but a place in our collective memory. December seventh, nineteen 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: forty one, September eleventh, two thousand and one, and January sixth, 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I remember not knowing if I would 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: make it out of our seat of democracy alive, or 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: if our democracy itself would survive. But January sixth was 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: also the day that we saved our democracy. If instigating 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: a mob against the government is considered permissible, if encouraging 13 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: political violence becomes the norm, it will be open season 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: on this grand democracy, this noble experiment. On this episode 15 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: of News World, Americans were shocked and outraged to see 16 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: chaos unfold at the Capitol on January six, twenty twenty one. 17 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: It shut down plans by some lawmakers to object to 18 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: Congress's official certification of the twenty twenty presidential election results. Democrats, 19 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: the news media, and some leading Republicans immediately blamed the 20 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: roughly four hour dis serments on President Trump. The president 21 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: quote incited an insurrection, the American public was told it 22 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: prompted a second impeachment trial of Donald Trump after he 23 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: left office. But one year later, the original narrative of 24 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: what happened that day has crumbled. While hundreds of Americans 25 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: have been swept up in an unprecedented investigation led by 26 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: President Joe Biden's Justice Department to punish them for their 27 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: involvement in the January sixth protest, the public has been 28 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: misled and flat out lied to about a number of 29 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: aspects related to that day. And I frankly have a 30 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: particular interest in all this because, as a former Speaker 31 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: of the House, I think Speaker Pelosi was very derelict 32 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: in her own duties, which was to protect the Congress 33 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: to the Capital. And I think that there are a 34 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: lot of really deeply unanswered questions, And so I was 35 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: delighted to discover that Julie Kelly had written a new 36 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: book January sixth, how Democrats used the Capital protests to 37 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: launch a war on terror against the political right, which 38 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: exposes a great deal of what I've been puzzled by. 39 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: So I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, Julie Kelly. 40 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: She's a political commentator and senior contributor to American Greatness. 41 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: She has reported on the Russian collusion hoax, the government's 42 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: destructive lockdown policies related to the pandemic, twenty twenty election fraud, 43 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: and the January sixth protest. Thank you for joining me, Julie. 44 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, mister speaker, thank you for having 45 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: me on. You know, President Biden has called the events 46 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: that took place in January sixth the worst attack on 47 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: our democracy since the Civil War. Yet one year later, 48 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: there are more questions that answers on what really took 49 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: place on January sixth. And so let me start at 50 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: the beginning. Where were you on January sixth? And what 51 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: did you think about what you saw? I was actually 52 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: at our place in Naples, Florida, delaying as long as 53 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: I possibly could going back to surb in Chicago after 54 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: the holidays, and so a couple of my friends who 55 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: lived down there came over and we were expecting to 56 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: watch Trump speech and see what was going to happen 57 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: in Congress. In terms of what you were just referring 58 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: to suggestions to delay certification and a few of the 59 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: contested states and ask for this ten day audit that 60 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: several senators and congressmen wanted. And so we're watching everything unfold, 61 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: and at the same time, I was on Twitter, and 62 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, this looks a little raucous. This looks 63 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: a little rowdy. What's happening. But I thought immediately that 64 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: the hyperbole about what we were seeing did not match 65 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: what was happening. I was not one of those people 66 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: right away who was going along with this is an insurrection, 67 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: this is violent. President Trump needs to stop. I thought, well, 68 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: this is a combination of factors, which is, you've had 69 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: people for over a year dealing with the pandemic, dealing 70 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: with lockdowns, their children out of school. Then we had 71 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: all the riots over the summer, and then you had 72 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: what many millions of Americans believe was a stolen election. 73 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: And so I thought, well, it's justified then to see 74 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: so many Americans acting out at Congress when they're going 75 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: to officially certify what people believed to be a rigged election. 76 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: And I guess, honestly, I was shocked at the overdramatization 77 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: of what was happening, and so I even made a 78 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: little joke on Twitter that night that with the organic 79 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: sham and the guy with the horns who was in 80 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: the Senate Chamber, I tweeted, well, he couldn't do a 81 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: worse job than the people we have there now. So 82 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: that's really was my vantage point from the very beginning. 83 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: And to be honest, it didn't look like something organic. 84 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: It looked like to me somebody who's followed the Russia 85 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: collusion hoax, this just didn't seem like something Trump supporters 86 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: would do. And so I think my tentacles were up 87 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: right away, and I think that that's what guided some 88 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: of my reporting. Clearly is not an insurrection. Most you 89 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: could say that this was a mob, but there was 90 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: no serious effort. There's no serious possibility that they were 91 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: going to in any serious way lead an insurrection against 92 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: the American government. The other thing I was struck by, though, 93 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: was that, after all the news media hype, the only 94 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: person actually killed was a woman who was a reservist, 95 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: and she was not armed, and yet they almost immediately 96 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: exonerated the officer who had killed her, although she at 97 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: the time was not a threat to anybody. And I 98 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: just began to have this sense of that this was 99 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: all being handled in a very weird way. So when 100 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: you began digging into this, what did you discover? And 101 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: just to touch on what you just said about Ashley Babbitt, 102 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: I think her killing that day internally is a very 103 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: overlooked aspect of what set a lot of the protesters off. 104 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: So we can talk a little bit about the police 105 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: misconduct and in some cases outright brutality that DC and 106 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: Capitol police unleashed on peaceful protesters. The killing of Ashley 107 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Babbitt by a police officer, the handling of her body 108 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: as they saw how she was dragged out by officers. 109 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: That incited a lot of the confrontations that you saw 110 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: a leader between protesters and police. So it wasn't just 111 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: that she was shot. She allegedly posed a threat the 112 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: people who were there and the people who saw what 113 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: happened to her, that really inflamed their emotions. But there 114 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: are four people who died on January sixth, Ashley Babbitt, 115 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Roseanne Boyland, Kevin Greeson, and Benjamin Phillips. Four people, four 116 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: Trump supporters, died. Ashley Babbitt was killed by a police officer. 117 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: It's very likely that Rosanne Boyland was also killed by 118 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: a police officer. There is a video that shows Kevin Greeson, 119 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: who suffered a heart attack after police through a flash 120 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: bang in his direction. So these are the stories that 121 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: my book covers, the stories that have not been told, 122 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: and that of course the media is completely covering up. 123 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: What the people on the ground saw that day is 124 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: far different than the story that is being told, and 125 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: certainly the general narrative that's promoted by the media. Well, 126 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: and you have this extraordinary reaction with what over seven 127 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: hundred people have been charged by the Justice Department. That's correct, 128 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: And Mary Garland gave a press conference on Wednesday. He's 129 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: bragging about all the prosecutions. He's lying about the number 130 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: of police officers. He actually said five police officers died, 131 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: including Brian Sicknick, which was one of the early animating 132 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: myths of January sixth, that Brian Sicknick, first of all, 133 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: was bludgeoned by a fire extinguisher, which ended up being 134 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: not true. The New York Times, who first reported that, 135 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: had to retract it. And then these suicides later all 136 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: somehow have been attributed to January sixth. So you just 137 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: had the US Attorney General, the top lawyer in the country, 138 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: stand before the American people and lie once again that 139 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: Brian sick Nick and four other police officers who allegedly 140 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: committed suicide all did that because of what happened on 141 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: January sixth. So the Brian Sicnic story, that was one 142 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: of the first lies that actually I covered right from 143 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: the beginning, because it was suspect number one, it was 144 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: in New York Times, and number two it was sourced 145 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: to anonymous law enforcement officials, so of course they had 146 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: to retract that. So Mark Garland is bragging about seven 147 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: hundred Americans who have been charged in this most of 148 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: them charged with misdemeanors such as parading in the capital. 149 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: You have more than two hundred people who have been 150 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: charged with something called obstruction of an official proceeding, which 151 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: is really a technicality obstruction charge that was passed in 152 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: the post Enron era. It never was intended to be 153 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: applied to political protesters. In fact, when George W. Bush 154 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: signed it into law, he specifically said, this is not 155 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: to be applied to political protests. This is not something 156 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: to interfere with people's First Amendment rights. But of course 157 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: the Garland Justice department is completely violating that. You have 158 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty people charged with attacking o 159 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: assaulting police officers, about seventy who have been charged with 160 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: some sort of weapons violation, but the overwhelming majority have 161 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: been charged with misdemeanors. And I think it's important to 162 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: say not one American has been charged with insurrection or sedition, 163 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: which is of course what we were told from the 164 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: beginning and what a lot of people thought most people 165 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: would be charged with, and certainly Donald Trump would be 166 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: charged with that. So I'm curious the ones who've been 167 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: charged with a misdemeanor. Haven't they already served more time 168 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: in jail than you would have served for a misdemeanor. 169 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: Not necessarily people who are detained right now, the political prisoners, 170 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: which they are right now, they're about roughly eighty three 171 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: men who have been held behind bars under pre trialed 172 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: attention orders that have been sought by Mark Garland's Justice 173 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Department and signed off on by federal judges. Now they 174 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: do face an assortment of misdemeanors, but everyone who has 175 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: been detained faces some sort of felony charge, including the 176 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: abstraction charge. But there are numerous detainees who do not 177 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: face any violent charges. They are not accused of attacking police, 178 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: they're not accused of carrying a weapon or destroying property. 179 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: These are people who are tied to the alleged militia groups, 180 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: the Proud Boys or Oath Keepers, charged with conspiracy. Still 181 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: again not charged with anything violent, but nonetheless kept behind bars, 182 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: denied bail for most of last year, and still waiting 183 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: as their trials are delayed into the middle and even 184 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: late next year. So it's the process that is the punishment. 185 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: But these misdemeanor charges, I will say, federal judges in 186 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: DC are sentencing people who are pleading guilty to Class 187 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: B misdemeanors which the chief judge said they never deal 188 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: with in this court. And judges are sentencing these people 189 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: to thirty sixty ninety days in jail for something called 190 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: parading in a capital. How long have they been in 191 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: jail prior to being assigned thirty sixty or ninety days. Well, 192 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: those people have not been They were not detained. Some 193 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: of them have been on some sort of home detention monitoring. 194 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: But those people who pleaded guilty just to the misdemeanor 195 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: charge were not detained. Awaiting trial. What happened to some 196 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: people who apparently show up on the videos but have 197 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: not been arrested. I mean, I guess the most famous 198 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: one is Ray Ebbs, who seems to be sort of 199 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: in his own class in terms of the FBI having 200 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: avoided arresting him. So I want to touch on what 201 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: you said at the beginning, and that is this prevailing 202 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: question as to why Nancy Pelosi and DC may Or 203 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: Muriel Bowser rejected offer of additional security, and this would 204 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: include Donald Trump offering I believe ten thousand National guardsmen 205 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: to help protect the capital or just protect what was 206 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: going on that day. Of course, as you know, people 207 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: who showed up in Washington, d C. The hundreds of 208 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: thousands who showed up to support the president on January six, 209 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: many of them had been to previous Stop the Steal 210 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: rallies in DC in November and December, and Trump supporters 211 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: were attacked, they were assaulted. I'm sure you recall and 212 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: your listeners recall seeing people who were assaulted by BLM 213 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: and Antifa activists as they were leaving these rallies. And 214 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: so the President and others and people who actually brought 215 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: things like pepper spray or some sort of device to 216 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: protect themselves, sought that Antifa and BLM would be attacking 217 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: them once again, and so as they were going to 218 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: the capital. And this is the result of some of 219 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: these weapons charges. But the reason why the extra security 220 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: was rejected, in my view, is because the DC Metro 221 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: Capitol police already had their marching orders, which was to 222 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: dress in full riot gear, head to tow and start 223 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: attacking the crowd early on. And this is when you 224 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: saw police officers throwing flash bangs. You see Capitol police 225 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: with pepper ball guns. So this is a gun that 226 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: you put pepper balls in that emits pepper gas when 227 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: it hits the ground. DC Metro police use something called stingballs, 228 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: which when it hits the ground, it releases rubber bullets. 229 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: So that's why you saw protesters who were bleeding standing 230 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: outside of the Capitol building. So they had their marching 231 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: orders which was to attack this crowd and provoke a 232 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: lot of the confrontations that you saw between police and protesters, 233 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: so you can see the crowd actually turning on police. 234 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: In some examples, police are beating protesters. There's one clip 235 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: where several DC Metro police officers tackle a man and 236 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: start beating him up outside of the Capitol building. And 237 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: so if you had had National guardsmen there, of course 238 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: they would have looked at these officers and said, what 239 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: are you doing. You can't beat up people standing on 240 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: capital grounds. You can't douse them with chemical spray, you 241 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: can't throw flash bangs at them, this deafening explosive device. 242 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: These are people outside the building. They're not even trying 243 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: to get inside. So that is why, in my opinion, 244 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: they did not want extra security. Also, you had hundreds 245 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: of federal agents, which we now know confirmed by the 246 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: Newsweek bombshell that was posted on Monday, and that is 247 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: contrary to what we have been told by Christopher Ray. 248 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,479 Speaker 1: The FBI had at least a half a dozen elite 249 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: forces stationed at Quantico on January second and third, ready 250 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: to quote unquote defend the capital. But they deployed those agents, 251 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: these elite agents. Newsweek calls them shadowy commandos. They deployed 252 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: these people to the capital early on January sixth, and 253 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: so who were those people who were these undercover FBI agents, 254 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: these elite forces that contrary to what Christopher Ray says, oh, 255 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: they were caught flat footed they weren't prepared for the 256 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: violence that day. While it's looking more and more like 257 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: not only they weren't prepared, they did over prepare and 258 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: probably instigated and provoked a lot of what happened because 259 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: you brought up ray Epps. The question now is not 260 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: so much who's been charged, but who hasn't been charged. 261 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: So Ray Epps is the man who has seen several 262 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: times encouraging people to go into the Capitol building. He 263 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: has not been charged. It's almost a year later. Stuart Rhodes, 264 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: who is the founder of the Oathkeepers, he is person 265 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: one in every single indictment for the Oathkeepers. This is 266 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: now a twenty defendant wide ranging conspiracy case. He is 267 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: person one. He still has not been charged, now a 268 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: year later, with any crime. And so these are the 269 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: sort of questions that really start to fuel I think 270 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: justified speculation that the government was far more involved in 271 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: what happened in January sixth, and the public believes and 272 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: certainly was led to believe. I gathered that there's zero 273 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: cooperation in explaining what's going on. I did a press 274 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: conference with House Republicans who talked about the number of 275 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: letters that don't get answered both in the Capital where 276 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: neither Speaker Pelosi's office nor the House administration have been 277 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: willing to cooperate, but also the Justice Department, which has 278 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: refused to cooperate. So we really don't know why some 279 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: of these people have not been arrested. And at the 280 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: same time, as I understand it, they're like fourteen thousand 281 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: hours of closed circuit TV footage that is being held 282 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: by the Justice Department of the Capitol Police that they 283 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: refused to release. That's right, US Capitol Police monitors and 284 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: a very extensive camera system inside and outside every building 285 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: and of course the Capital grounds. That security system captured 286 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand hours of footage between the hours of noon 287 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: and eight o'clock on January sixth. Every slice, every minute 288 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: of that footage is under protective orders. The Justice Department 289 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: has designated that trove of footage as highly sensitive government material, 290 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: basically classified material that they do not want the public 291 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: to see. Now here's the question, if this indeed is 292 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil Wars, 293 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: Joe Biden says, comparable or worse than nine to eleven 294 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City bombing, don't the American people deserve to 295 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: see all of that footage. See what transpired starting at 296 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: knew that day, who was already on the grounds, how 297 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: these alleged police barriers were breached, who the agents were, 298 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: who started the ruckus, what happened inside the building. They 299 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: do not want the public to see any of this. 300 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: I'm talking even thirty second clips that are under protective 301 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: orders that defense attorneys have to go to court and 302 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: ask to be unsealed. So some of that footage, though, 303 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: is starting to drip out. And what we have seen 304 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: is a thirty minute segment of footage from between two 305 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: thirty and three o'clock that day where at least five 306 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: or six Capital Police officers stood by as more than 307 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: three hundred people entered the building on the Senate side. 308 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: They stood there, they talked to protesters, They did not 309 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: try to shut the door, They did not try to 310 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: prevent anyone from getting in. So anyone who says Capitol 311 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: police did not let people in, that's not true. More 312 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: terrifying is footage from inside an entrance tunnel on the 313 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: west side of the Capitol Building where DC Metro Police 314 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: and Capitol Police brutal realized and attacked, including defenseless women. 315 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: One woman who I spoke with Victoria White. We're beating 316 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: them with batons, punching them in their face, stomping on them, 317 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: dousing them with chemical spray. This is the location where 318 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: Rosanne Boylan, thirty four year old woman from Georgia, died. 319 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: The DC coroner said she died of a drug overdose. 320 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: It's very clear from this footage that is now being 321 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: released thanks to defense attorneys than even some news organizations 322 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: who want to see it, we are getting a much 323 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: broader grasp of what happened that day, specifically what police did. 324 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: So there's a reason why they want this footage under 325 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: wraps is because they don't want the public. They don't 326 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: even want defense attorneys to see everything that happened. I mean, 327 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: this is the opposite of good policing. So why do 328 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: you think they had instructions to be that brutal. I 329 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: think that they wanted to provoke, and we saw this 330 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: with Marck Garland's press conference. So they wanted to accuse 331 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Trump's supporters of being cop killers. They wanted to show 332 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: that despite all of the support that the President and 333 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: Republicans had given police throughout twenty twenty, that they really 334 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: are attacking police. Officers. So these were the visuals that 335 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: created the idea that this was a violent mob of 336 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: insurrectionists who went there armed and attacked police officers to 337 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: get into the buildings so they could get to Mike Penzer, 338 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: get to other lawmakers. There's no other reason why these 339 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: officers should have been armed with these explosive devices and 340 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: everything else that they used against the crowd. There was 341 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: no justification only to provoke and incite the crowd and 342 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: then create the sort of optics that has animated this 343 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: narrative from the very beginning. And they've gotten away with 344 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: it because when I tell people the story, they know 345 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: nothing about this. No, no, And of course the propaganda 346 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: media of the left has no interest in actually getting 347 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: to the truth of this because it would violate the 348 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: narrative that they passionately believe in. One of the things 349 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: it was odd is the two bomb threats at the 350 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: Republican and Democratic National Committees, which presumably were designed to 351 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: draw law enforcement away from the Capitol. I mean, has 352 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: anybody ever gotten to the bottom of that and where 353 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: they're actually bombs? No, No, one has gotten to the 354 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: bottom of that. And to your point, that was really 355 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: the thing that prompted the first evacuations because, as you know, 356 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: those buildings are located to the east of the Capitol Building, 357 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: so that led to the evacuation of some of the 358 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: buildings here by. It really sort of lit the match 359 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: of this is going to be a dangerous, deadly day. Now. 360 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Allegedly those pipe bombs were planted on the evening of 361 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: January fifth. That person, even though the FBI claims they 362 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: have footage and they're offering a reward, that person has 363 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: never been identified or charged. This makes no sense because 364 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: the FBI has used every tool imaginable, including geofence warrants 365 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: where big tech companies sell providers are handing over every 366 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: ounce of data that they have related to cell phone 367 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: users within the entire city that day. So it makes 368 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: no sense why the FBI has not tracked down this person. 369 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: To your question, were they pipe bombs, I don't know. 370 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: We've only seen photographs of it. They claim that the 371 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: US Capitol Police bomb squad detonated them and claimed that 372 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: the FBI has the evidence the remains of these pipe 373 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: bombs and are still investigating. So my joke is, well, 374 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: maybe CrowdStrike has the pipe bombs, because it sounds a 375 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: lot like the DNC email server. Doesn't it just sort of, oh, 376 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: we have it magically disappeared. But that is a question. 377 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: I get a lot. What happened to the pipe bomber? Well, 378 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: was it a federal agent? Did they never exist? Was 379 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: it a hoax? Was this part of the entire plan? 380 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: We're not getting any answers from the FBI. There's been 381 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: a remarkable difference between the House and Senate. On responded this. 382 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: I noticed that the Senate actually produced a bipartisan report 383 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 1: from two of its committees making a whole series of 384 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: security recommendations for the future. But it was done sort 385 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: of calmly as a bipartisan effort and actually trying to 386 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: understand what could have been improved that day. And the 387 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: House has gone a totally different direction with this Select Committee, 388 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: which doesn't seem to actually care about that day. It 389 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: seems to be almost entirely a political operation. Are you 390 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: surprised at how different the two responses are. Well, no, 391 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by what Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff 392 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: Benny Thompson, who is the chairman of the January sixth 393 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: Select Committee, are doing. This is what they've done as 394 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, for five years trying to get Trump in 395 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: his associates and anyone related to him. What I am 396 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: shocked and dismayed at is the silence of Republicans in 397 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: the Senate. In fact, you had one leading Republican senator 398 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: today who referred to January sixth as a violent terrorist 399 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: attack on the Capitol. Now, first of all, it's not true, 400 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: and second of all, there's so many destructive and damaging 401 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: things happening to Americans. Even as I said, these trespassers 402 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: whose lives are being destroyed. If you're a US Republican 403 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: senator who has spoken out, hasn't said a word about 404 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: political prisoners or about how this Justice Department is abusing 405 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: and weaponizing its powers, but yet referred today to January 406 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: sixth as a violent terrorist attack. This is what we're 407 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: getting from the Republicans in the Senate. On the flip side, 408 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: there are a handful of Republican congressmen and women who 409 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: are speaking out about what's happening. But I really think overall, 410 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: the silence and in some cases complicity by Republican leaders 411 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: in Washington is very shameful. Why do you think that's happening? 412 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: I think they're cowards. To be honest, I think they're 413 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: afraid that they are going to be tied to alleged 414 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: domestic terrorists or insurrectionists. I don't think that they know 415 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: what's happening. I really don't. I don't think they could 416 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: tell you the name of one person who's been prosecuted 417 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: or charged. I think they're afraid to speak out for 418 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: political prisoners, even those who are charged with attacking police officers. Okay, well, 419 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: you don't have to agree with the behavior, but we 420 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: still do have due process and the presumption of innocence, 421 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: especially for people who have no criminal record. And we 422 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: clearly have a glaring double standard of justice for people 423 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: who protested for a few hours in some cases got 424 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: violent on January six, versus what we saw for weeks 425 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: in the summer of twenty twenty. And so you really 426 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: don't see any Republican leaders taking that head on. Certainly 427 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: not in the Senate, and as I said, only a 428 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: few in the House and the House Select Committee. It 429 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: seems to me is the most blatantly political effort to 430 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: smear a party, and smear a former president and do 431 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: whatever is necessary and almost total violation of the constitutional principles. 432 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: The kind of effort they're making has nothing to do 433 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: with that day and everything to do with, I think, 434 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: trying to find an excuse to criminalize President Trump. Well 435 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: that's why I say, when they're turning January sixth into 436 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: a war on terror against the political right, it goes 437 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: far beyond President Trump. I mean you could see with 438 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: these subpoenas. I mean now they're going after Sean Hannity, 439 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: they went after Steve Bannon, They're going after podcasters, They're 440 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: going aftermen who helped organize the rally, the president's speech 441 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: that day. They are going after the entire Republican ecosystem, funders, lawmakers, 442 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: influencers on social media, broadcasters. This is what they have wanted, 443 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: as you know, for years, and they are using January 444 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: six as the pretext to get all of that done. 445 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: In some ways, cut your teeth on things like the 446 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: Russian hoax. Isn't it startling how consistently dishonest the left 447 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: has been and how much they've gotten away with And 448 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: so it's almost like Lucy and the Football and Charlie Brown. 449 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they totally lie about something and then it 450 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: blows up, and then they find something new to lie 451 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: about and it blows up, and I suspect with people 452 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: like you beginning to do real research, this will gradually 453 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: become one more example of the left just being totally dishonest. 454 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: But when you think all the way back to your 455 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: initial look the Russian hoax, isn't there this weird pattern 456 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: of the same people being methodically dishonest. Yes, And the 457 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: common denominator, as you know, is Adam Schiff. So you 458 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: have a Democratic congressman who has openly, flagrantly and intentionally 459 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: lied to the American people. Now for nearly five years, 460 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: he lied repeatedly that there was evidence of collusion. There 461 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: was not. He never paid any price for that. Then 462 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: he pivoted directly to impeachment, so he held the House 463 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee hearings with the intelligence community. That was a 464 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: setup about the quid pro quo phone call between Trump 465 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: and Zelenski, So he led that. And then of course 466 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: now he is seated on the January sixth Committee. So 467 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: Adam Schiff is the common denominator. But he can get 468 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: away with it because he never paid a price. He's 469 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: not going to pay a price in the media. He's 470 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: not going to pay a price within his own Party. 471 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: But where Republicans had the House know who they opened 472 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: up an ethics investigation into in twenty seventeen. This is 473 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: a Republican ladhouse. They open an ethics investigation into Devin Nunaz, 474 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: not Adam Schiff, Devin Nunez. So that is the sort 475 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: of a Republican leadership that infuriates a base in the 476 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: rank and file. And what they see now are people 477 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: who've gotten away with lying, who've gotten away with destructive investigations, 478 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: whether it was Robert Muller's or Adam Schiff's impeachment, everything 479 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: else that's transpired over the past five years. And now 480 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: because they've paid no price, they can subpoena whoever they want. 481 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: They subpoena someone like Steve Bannon, who had nothing to 482 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: do with January six. You have them getting information from 483 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows. I mean, this is such an overreach in 484 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: such an intrusion. And now are they going to subpoena 485 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, I don't know, or are they going to 486 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 1: subpoena all the Fox hosts who reached out to the 487 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: president that day? Are they going to subpoena Don Junior 488 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: and Ivanka You know we've seen this movie over and over, 489 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: but they're getting away with it. The courts aren't letting 490 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: them get away with it. The Justice Department is playing along. 491 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: As soon as they get a criminal referral from Congress, 492 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: they go ahead and slap the charges against these people. 493 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: That's the difference. I guess now they have the DOJ. 494 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: Democrats didn't have it technically for four years under Trump, 495 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: but now you do. And so that's why it's a 496 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: little bit more destructive and setting very dangerous precedents for 497 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: the future. What this committee is doing in conjunction with 498 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: the DOJ, all of them working together, and the committee 499 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: itself was clearly just a creature of Nancy Pelosi. I mean, 500 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: she would not even allow McCarthy and the Republicans to 501 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: pick the people they wanted to have on the committee, 502 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: so she picked two pelosity Republicans. The whole thing is 503 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: I think an absurdity. It is, and it's good to 504 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: see some people fighting back. I believe this is Markmenows's 505 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: attorney who outlined why the committee is illegitimate to begin with, 506 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: because it violated its own originating language, and that was 507 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: the number of people in the committee, and that the 508 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: Republican leader would appoint people to that committee, so they're 509 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: calling it illegitimate from the start. So I don't know 510 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the courts. I'll tell you 511 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: the DC distrecord watching them has been probably even more 512 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: eye opening experienceeing how these federal judges go along with everything, 513 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: and so they're not going to get any relief in 514 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: the court, even from Trump judges. So it's unlikely that 515 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: will get anywhere, but it is nice to see at 516 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: least a little pushback to this illegitimate committee. Well, and 517 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: I suspect some of it will get appealed to the 518 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I believe the ruling that denied Trump his 519 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: executive privilege protections, of course, Joe Biden being the first 520 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: president to deny his predecessor executive protection, and that went 521 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: to the DC District Court and an Obama judge, Tanya Chutkin, 522 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: ruled in face of Joe Biden. That went to the 523 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: then DC Circuit, the appellate court basically and they upheld 524 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: tiny Chukin's ruling. So now it is for the Supreme Court, 525 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: so we shall see what they do. I'm curiousness as 526 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: a side note, what do you think is Liz Cheney's 527 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: thinking about all this, Given the background she had with 528 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: her father and her mother, and the degree to what 529 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: she has a sophisticated understanding of power in Washington, why 530 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: would she be going along with this stuff? I think 531 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: two reasons. One is to rehabilitate her family name. And 532 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: you see that's working because, of course, the same journalists 533 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: who considered her father a war criminal and wanted him 534 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: strung up at the Hague a decade or so ago 535 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: now are calling her the conscience of the Republican Party. 536 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: So I think that's one. I think the other part 537 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: is retaliation from the Cheney family for Donald Trumps standing 538 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: in front of the American people and being really the 539 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: first Republican leader to confront George Bush and Dick Cheney 540 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: for the Iraq War. That was one of the center 541 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: pieces of his twenty sixteen campaign. When he stood on 542 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: that debate stage I believe it was in South Carolina, 543 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: looked directly at Jeb Bush and said that administration lie 544 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: that there were no weapons of mass destruction in the 545 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: Iraq War was a tragic mistake, and then he made 546 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: other comments about Dick Cheney. I think that that is 547 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: really stuck with them, and so this is her way 548 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: on behalf of her father and that administration to retaliate. 549 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: And I think that's what she's doing. That's the very 550 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: rational explanation. I think that's probably the best explanation I've 551 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: heard and makes the most sense. Clearly, you've thought a 552 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: lot about all these things. I think this is an 553 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: important book. We are going to have your book posted 554 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: on our show page so people can buy it. January sixth, 555 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: How Democrats used the Capitol Protest to launch a war 556 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: and terror against the political right. And I want to 557 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Oh, thank you so much, 558 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: mister speaker. Thank you for having me on. I know 559 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: we talked early about this several months ago. 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