WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Jonathan Majors On Worthiness, Unpacking Trauma, Rebirth, Meagan Good, Marvel + More

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<v Speaker 5>In the morning Breakfast Club, Ye walk most Dangerous want

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<v Speaker 5>to show to Breakfast Club CHARLAMAGNEA god justs hilarious.

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<v Speaker 5>We got a very special guest in the building man

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<v Speaker 5>one of the most gifted actors of our generation, probably

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<v Speaker 5>the most gifted, mister Jonathan Major.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you, brother, morning, I'm doing good. I'm doing

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing a lot better now, Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're just officially tied to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>How does it feel that, you know, you finally lock

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<v Speaker 6>down your corrective.

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<v Speaker 3>Cup.

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<v Speaker 7>It's uh, it's beautiful, you know, it's uh, it's the

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<v Speaker 7>ending of a chapter, in the beginning of a chapter.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm at a place where we got married on

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<v Speaker 7>the eighteenth. That was a couple of days ago, a

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<v Speaker 7>couple sleeps ago. And it happened when it happened, because

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<v Speaker 7>it won't be planning it. Yeah, but uh, I felt

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<v Speaker 7>worthy of her, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on black man. I felt worthy of her. It's

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<v Speaker 1>found that. Yeah, yeah it.

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<v Speaker 7>She is an incredible, incredible woman. And I had to

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<v Speaker 7>get to that level, you know, uh, spiritually, socially, emotionally,

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<v Speaker 7>I had to mature a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>And she.

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<v Speaker 7>Caught me at a time when I was in I

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<v Speaker 7>was in a bad way, you know, and I was

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<v Speaker 7>very upfront about that, and she said, all right, got

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<v Speaker 7>on the plane and came to New York City and

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<v Speaker 7>sat with me on the on the couch and held

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<v Speaker 7>me when you know, when it was all going down

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<v Speaker 7>at the heaviest place.

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<v Speaker 4>And the more.

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<v Speaker 7>I got to look at her, I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 7>I love this woman, you know. And then when marriage

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<v Speaker 7>became a thing, when it was like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 7>marry her, I said, wait, but marriages, I ain't. That

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<v Speaker 7>ain't no joke, you know what I mean. And I

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<v Speaker 7>had to really evaluate myself even deeper. You know, if

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<v Speaker 7>I was to wed this particular woman and she just

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<v Speaker 7>helped me grow so much, and I wasn't I needed

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<v Speaker 7>to be worthy of her and be worthy of her

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<v Speaker 7>patience and her time, and that she wasn't wasting her

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<v Speaker 7>time on me, you know. So I had I couldn't

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<v Speaker 7>waste my time on me, and so I had to

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<v Speaker 7>get myself right.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we did it. Yeah, yeah, and the journey continues,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like like the marriage is happiest day of

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<v Speaker 4>my life, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>He is, like, what type of work did you put

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<v Speaker 5>in to be the man that you know, she she

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<v Speaker 5>was worthy of.

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<v Speaker 4>Had to get my mind right, you know. I had

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of I just had a lot of a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of ship that was just piled up that.

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<v Speaker 7>I I never really dealt with, you know, and those

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<v Speaker 7>things hindered me socially, emotionally, spiritually.

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<v Speaker 4>Even a relationship with.

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<v Speaker 7>With my God, you know, was not where it needed

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<v Speaker 7>to be, you know, and she being such a strong

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<v Speaker 7>woman of God, that became clear that I need to

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<v Speaker 7>work on that. So, I mean, y'all seen the movie,

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<v Speaker 7>and you y'all know me, you know, so I look

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<v Speaker 7>at something like that and it's like, all right, Jay,

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<v Speaker 7>what you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an actor. I appreciate the word you said. Man.

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<v Speaker 7>I trained for eleven years NonStop for acting summers whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an athlete.

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<v Speaker 7>I lifted, I ran, I did that, And every time

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<v Speaker 7>I did that, I had I had a team of

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<v Speaker 7>people around me to make me ah, to make me

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<v Speaker 7>worthy of those jobs and that occupation. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 7>do that for me, you know, I didn't do that

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<v Speaker 7>for myself. And so the process of becoming worthy, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>for her I thought, well, apply.

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<v Speaker 4>The same thing.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I had eight different acting coaches, eight different

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I went to two different schools.

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<v Speaker 4>Just do the same thing for yourself. Brother, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so I did you know the court helped me out

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<v Speaker 4>with one of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh uh.

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<v Speaker 7>And I love I love I actually love those guys,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. I love that situation. I've

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<v Speaker 7>always talcome to my my therapist, you know, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 7>gonna stick with it, you know, and and do the

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<v Speaker 7>uh the peer counseling, you know when all this is

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I got yeah, oh man, I'm on my

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<v Speaker 7>last my last one, oh your last session, last one.

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<v Speaker 7>I think, yeah, we're getting we're getting close to the end.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I'm gonna stick with it because I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you know, other other people come in and

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<v Speaker 7>that's beautiful, you know. So I'm gonna stick with that.

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<v Speaker 7>My my pastor, you know, Darius Daniels at Changed Church, incredible,

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<v Speaker 7>incredible man. You know, mentor friend life coach, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>my other personal therapist, the men's group I started, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the business I started. You know, all these people that

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<v Speaker 7>can just go aj you know, they go from pulling

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<v Speaker 7>my coattail being like, oh, oh that's different, you know

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<v Speaker 7>what I mean, you know, And so just keeping those

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<v Speaker 7>folks around me too, to help keep me up right,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, and and mirror back to me what it

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<v Speaker 7>is I'm doing, you know. And I feel I'm smiling

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<v Speaker 7>because I'm in such a great place, you know what

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<v Speaker 7>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've just never been I've never been so happy,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And uh, it's hard to say, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>i've I think I've I had fact similes of happiness

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<v Speaker 7>growing up, but but.

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<v Speaker 1>Never happy, you know that moments moments there, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I mean saying oh you got jat wicked.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh you're doing this wicked. Oh you're doing that wicked.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>But there's a part of me all that, all that

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<v Speaker 7>I heard, all that trauma, all those things I needed

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<v Speaker 7>to work out, you know, that wouldn't allow that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Now we got those out there. Now, we're getting those

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<v Speaker 7>out of the system, and a lot of them have

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<v Speaker 7>been identified.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you can't see it, you can't change it.

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<v Speaker 7>And so someone was thrown in my face and some

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<v Speaker 7>I went and found, you know, because I felt confident

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<v Speaker 7>and I felt supported to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the process before you.

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<v Speaker 8>Did you ever feel like through any of that, like

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<v Speaker 8>you were scared or nervous that like Megan would be like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 8>this is too much for me.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that like for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? All the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, as I said, it's just like I told her

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<v Speaker 7>from the jump, like this is gonna be crazy, a wild,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you're all in it and it's like the.

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<v Speaker 4>Press, Yeah, but we're like, I'm sorry now, I was.

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<v Speaker 8>Gonna say, because she's also a name, and so I

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<v Speaker 8>think that there was a lot thrown on her as well,

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<v Speaker 8>because people were like, Megan, good, why are you doing this?

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<v Speaker 4>Are Yeah? Yeah, I had a lot of that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I had a lot of Sure, I had a lot of.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I mean, we're in a relationship, now, we're

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<v Speaker 7>in a marriage. You know, I'll keep it straight. We

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<v Speaker 7>had moments of like, hey, babe, it's cool, you know

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<v Speaker 7>what I mean. I love you more than I can imagine,

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<v Speaker 7>but you gotta you know, the ship's going down. You

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<v Speaker 7>know you better, I'm jack, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>You let go of me and you go get it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>That was a big thing, and she took so many

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<v Speaker 7>she took so many hits, you know, because of it,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, she took I don't think she bound me

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<v Speaker 7>saying like, yeah, she wasn't in the they weren't announcing it,

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<v Speaker 7>but like she lost endorsements. You know, we got uninvited

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<v Speaker 7>to stuff. You know, she got uninvited to stuff because

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<v Speaker 7>she has shown just how down she was. And they

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<v Speaker 7>knew if if Megan's coming, Jay's coming, you know I'm coming.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, she took an incredible hit, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 7>just walking around you know what I mean, like a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of our a lot of our work because you

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<v Speaker 7>guys know it's like socializing, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>And we asked her that when she was up here

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<v Speaker 6>as well, you know, like the same question that Lauren

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<v Speaker 6>just asked you. Did you ever feel like that was

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<v Speaker 6>too much? In sheet said no, she knew that lady

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<v Speaker 6>has God, that lady. Yes, yes, she talked about you

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<v Speaker 6>with the same smile on her face that you have,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and strong, very strong woes.

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<v Speaker 7>She's stronger than me, you know, she's stronger than me.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, she kept me up. It continues to keep

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<v Speaker 7>me up. Before we walked in here, she was praying,

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<v Speaker 7>come on, come on sah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and now I understand the correta understand that I

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<v Speaker 6>do because even though you know it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>jokes that came with it and a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, you actually did a lot for me on stage.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a comedian, so I used the jokes a lot. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>But hearing you talk about that, you know how she

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<v Speaker 6>prays with you, for you.

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<v Speaker 1>She flew to New.

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<v Speaker 6>York to sit there and you cried in her arms,

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<v Speaker 6>like you know, it just always. It just also shows

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<v Speaker 6>the backbone of black women can be you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>d black woman, black black.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the only thing you can't say. You can't use

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<v Speaker 5>the term credit for a white woman. Yeah, do you

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<v Speaker 5>regret that? You know, I've seen people say you are

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<v Speaker 5>at a career crossroad with this film. Magazine Dreams, by

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<v Speaker 5>the way, phenomenal for not when I say a phenomenal film,

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<v Speaker 5>I give Magazine Dreams a ten out of ten. I

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<v Speaker 5>wish they would have stuck the lands and just a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit different. And it's like, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 5>watch it again, there's like little technical stuff. I been like,

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<v Speaker 5>I wish they would have explored that a lot more.

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<v Speaker 5>But brother, the job you did in that movie. My god,

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<v Speaker 5>how hard was it to get the character of Killian

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<v Speaker 5>Maddicks out of you?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us a little bit about the character for other

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<v Speaker 1>and then tell us how hard it was.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, sir, so, Killian Maddicks is a aspiring bodybuilder. He uh,

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<v Speaker 7>he moves to the world a bit. As far as

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<v Speaker 7>his mental state, he's a bit different, right, he's a

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<v Speaker 7>bit different.

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<v Speaker 4>And as an.

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<v Speaker 5>Understatement, yeah, yeah, yeahstatement, he's a unique character.

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<v Speaker 7>I would say, we've not seen a character especially you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we'll keep it straight here, right, we never We have

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<v Speaker 7>not seen a black actor, male or female. And if

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<v Speaker 7>we have, you know, someone howled at me and let

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<v Speaker 7>me know, Jay, you misspoke.

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<v Speaker 4>Blah blah blah. You know, no, and I'll take it back.

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<v Speaker 1>But who comparable?

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<v Speaker 4>But to my understanding, I mean, I've not seen our demographic.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, someone who is from the African diaspora participate

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<v Speaker 7>in a film that had a protagonist that got to

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<v Speaker 7>live in that odd, unique, beautifully unique space. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>as as the film goes, you find out, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>some of the reasons of that. He's dealt with incredible

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<v Speaker 7>childhood trauma. But his dream is to get his pro

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<v Speaker 7>card pro card is like making it into the league

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<v Speaker 7>for a bodybuilder, and he's working hard to do that.

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<v Speaker 7>And as he's trying to do that, he's dealing with

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<v Speaker 7>the trials and tribulations of his uniqueness and also of

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<v Speaker 7>his blackness, of his size, of his gender. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>all these things come into play. And so he's as

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<v Speaker 7>he's aspiring and working towards that, he has to deal

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<v Speaker 7>with a lot of a lot of stuff and and

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<v Speaker 7>ultimately he's trying to connect and uh, the last little

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<v Speaker 7>bit is he's infatuated with essentially the what would you say, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>the top of the top.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Named vander Horn who is the you know, top bodybuilder.

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<v Speaker 7>That's his aspiration.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh. And the thing about that which is interesting is

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<v Speaker 4>that he is a you know, six five.

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<v Speaker 7>Hercule and white god. And that's something that he has

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<v Speaker 7>to wrestle with, you know, this idea of the American

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<v Speaker 7>dream and celebrity and fame and all these things, and uh,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, there's a lot there's a lot of movie there.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I think that's the best I can kind

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<v Speaker 7>of put it out there. But uh, he's trying, and

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<v Speaker 7>he's he's striving, and he's trying, you know, to do better,

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<v Speaker 7>and he's trying to use the tools, but he can't

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<v Speaker 7>really get there, you know. But ultimately, well, you guys

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<v Speaker 7>will see.

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<v Speaker 4>What you guys have seen.

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<v Speaker 5>How much of it, because that's why I asked it

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<v Speaker 5>hard to get the character out of use? How much

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<v Speaker 5>of it was acting? How much of it was actual projection?

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<v Speaker 8>You wreck stuff in the first like twenty like you

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<v Speaker 8>the story like you tear stuff down fast.

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<v Speaker 5>It it happens, fasts on how much of it was acting.

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<v Speaker 7>Or projection, well, actings actings of I mean, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean your comedian, you know, you know we're using ourselves, right,

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<v Speaker 7>We're using ourselves a lot. And then that's the idea

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<v Speaker 7>is a craft, you know, like I can't just get

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<v Speaker 7>up there and be Johnson and tell a story.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I can guess what that's what we're doing now.

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<v Speaker 4>But as far as the.

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<v Speaker 7>Picture is concerned, Killian, Killian and I have similarities in

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<v Speaker 7>many ways. But ultimately, you know, he is a fictitious

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<v Speaker 7>character that was made, but the raw materials of him

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<v Speaker 7>absolutely came from the mind of Elijah buying them, uh

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<v Speaker 7>and myself, you know, and so that that I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to segue to Elijah bout them, but

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<v Speaker 7>I will say, when playing the protagonist, there's no way

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<v Speaker 7>you can't use what you have, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the picture was made three years ago, nearly.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, and a lot of the things that I've come

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<v Speaker 7>to understand about myself were so unresolved. However, in acting,

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<v Speaker 7>right and in my process of acting, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Are using the subconscious. You're definitely using the subconscious.

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<v Speaker 7>And because of that, I go, oh, well, I think

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<v Speaker 7>I understand what I mean. I mean, there are scenes

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<v Speaker 7>that completely mirror moments in my life, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you know the I'm sure we'll get to that. You

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<v Speaker 7>have to ask the question, I'll answer it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't want to give too much of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but but the answer is yes, there is. But

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<v Speaker 7>but in the acting it's not necessarily unprocessed. It's it's

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<v Speaker 7>it's unknown things that make themselves relevant through the given

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<v Speaker 7>circumstances of the play. You know, I grew up in

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<v Speaker 7>the theater of the movie, you know, And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if it's not in you, you can't give it,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, And sometimes you have to go find it,

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<v Speaker 7>and sometimes it's there and you don't realize it's there,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, but that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the one you want to take home with you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, it's not.

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<v Speaker 5>As I was watching it, I'm like, how much of

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<v Speaker 5>that did he take home that ended up ended up

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<v Speaker 5>in his real life, especially in light of the you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the situation that you.

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<v Speaker 7>Had, right, I would say, I would say in this case,

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<v Speaker 7>like honestly, because here it is honestly like acting. So

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<v Speaker 7>Stella Alller, right, there's all these acting teachers, right, but

0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.920
<v Speaker 7>Stella Elis are something very very very clear. Growth as

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<v Speaker 7>an actor and growth as a human happened simultaneously, right,

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<v Speaker 7>And that is something I really live by and something

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<v Speaker 7>I understood.

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<v Speaker 4>The difference with this picture.

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<v Speaker 7>Is it asked so much of the actor, right, It

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<v Speaker 7>has so much of the craft that so if this

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<v Speaker 7>is the craft, right, and then this is the actor.

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<v Speaker 7>This film made me grow so much as an actor, right.

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<v Speaker 7>But in doing that, I realized, oh, I was so

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<v Speaker 7>stunted as a human being. Right, So the answer is no,

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't. And also I do it for a living,

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<v Speaker 7>like I know how to shake it off, like I

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<v Speaker 7>have a very spiritual practice with my hand up.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I have a very spiritual.

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<v Speaker 7>Practice when it comes to acting, you know. And so

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<v Speaker 7>if anything, if anything, it's not that I took anything home.

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<v Speaker 7>It was that I was accessing things subconsciously that as

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<v Speaker 7>all actors do subconsciously. That I mean, this guy still

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<v Speaker 7>was like, no, I know how to do this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>you did it with get done? Put that back away,

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<v Speaker 7>Put that back away, put that back away.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's what happened, you know, same as all same

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<v Speaker 7>as all pictures. And yet life goes along, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>So at this point I can't say, you know, if

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<v Speaker 7>oh did you carry that? I mean, I've not carried

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<v Speaker 7>Montgomery Allen home from that black man in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not carried, you know, So I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 7>know if that's uh, if that's the case, but I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>Were there any days on set where you felt like

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<v Speaker 6>like meltdown or break down? Like was this ever? Was

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<v Speaker 6>it ever hard for you to film? Triggered?

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<v Speaker 7>Triggered, triggered once, triggered once there's a scene, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 7>you ah, there's moments where like you say, oh, they're inspired, right,

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<v Speaker 7>there's a there's a moment where, uh, something has just

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<v Speaker 7>happened to the character. Something's just happened to Killian and

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<v Speaker 7>Elijah buying them and all his wisdom, and that's a talented,

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<v Speaker 7>talented brother man. We had just finished the scene and

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<v Speaker 7>I was still I was still up. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 7>that's why I called. I was still up, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and Keeling was still operating. And he's always operating when

0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.480
<v Speaker 7>I'm at work, you know, he's still operating, still operating

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<v Speaker 7>to the to the point that he came in and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>can you walk out the trailer? So that should let

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<v Speaker 7>you guys know what. You guys know what the scene is,

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<v Speaker 7>walk out the trailer and then just process all of

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<v Speaker 7>that as you're walking out. And this is something that

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<v Speaker 7>when it's not on the script, right, it's no language.

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<v Speaker 7>So I can't since he's a target to keep my

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<v Speaker 7>engine going, right, So I'm living in my imagination and

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<v Speaker 7>for whatever reason, and now you know, two and a

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<v Speaker 7>half years later, I understand the reason, right, But I

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<v Speaker 7>got up. I walked out the trailer and Adam, our

0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.040
<v Speaker 7>beautiful DP was right in front of me. He said,

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<v Speaker 7>just walk out out and let that happen, right, And

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know anything was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>You know though I was still hot.

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<v Speaker 7>I was walking out, and I just felt it's kind

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<v Speaker 7>of like heat for me when I'm working right like

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<v Speaker 7>it's I felt all this heat come up. My feet

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<v Speaker 7>got hot, and then my face got hot, and I went, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm glad you asked because that was the moment when

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<v Speaker 7>I realized as I was walking out or maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 7>just realizing now that wasn't killing crying, right, that was

0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.679
<v Speaker 7>that was me crying, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Based off the yeah, based off I'm trying not to

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<v Speaker 5>get a revelation you gave this week, Yeah, being abused?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah yeah, yeah, got you got you, got you, got you,

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<v Speaker 7>got you and wow, yeah, I guess in a way

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<v Speaker 7>that was the that was the beginning of like okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like hypnotizing. Then that opened up all hmmm.

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<v Speaker 8>I was going to ask you because I read that

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<v Speaker 8>article that you did with when you talked about being abused.

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<v Speaker 8>Now that you're revealing or well, you're revealing to the world,

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<v Speaker 8>but you're dealing with because of the therapy and different

0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.639
<v Speaker 8>things that you're doing, all of this internal stuff like

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.439
<v Speaker 8>are you right now having to go through a different

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<v Speaker 8>process of like figuring out who you are againt and

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<v Speaker 8>how does that affect you as an actor, because like

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<v Speaker 8>you know, like you know, all right, this is the

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<v Speaker 8>character I'll come in, I'll do this. But like now

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<v Speaker 8>you're talking to your mom about stuff she didn't know.

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<v Speaker 8>How you're talking to your past about something they didn't know.

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<v Speaker 8>It makes you, I don't know, like do you feel

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<v Speaker 8>like you're like kind of reinventing who Jonathan Matrix is

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<v Speaker 8>because of things?

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<v Speaker 1>Or rebirth? Rebirth?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean like only tattoo I have, which my

0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 7>pastor mother was like you grown, You're grown that you

0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:45.040
<v Speaker 7>want and you know, but yes, it's definitely there's a

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<v Speaker 7>moment now where I go. I mean, I just I

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<v Speaker 7>was I was saying, saying the wife, you know, like

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<v Speaker 7>like I just feel different, you know. And this was

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<v Speaker 7>this was probably you know, two weeks time ago, Timy moving.

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<v Speaker 4>This is probably just two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 7>I was sitting there and I was like, I feel different,

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<v Speaker 7>Like I just feel different, you know. And there is

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<v Speaker 7>like I'm I'm gonna do a couple of pictures this year,

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<v Speaker 7>god willing, but I am nervous, you know, I am nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>Nervous that you don't have it the same anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Happen about the audience.

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<v Speaker 5>Gift is gonna make room for you because you just

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<v Speaker 5>to you too gifted to deny?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you brother?

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<v Speaker 3>What is the fear?

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<v Speaker 4>The fear is uh what? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, just keep it the buck, like, yeah, I fear that,

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<v Speaker 7>Like is it I've made so much more space, you

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<v Speaker 7>know what I mean? And it's like, ohwa's is it

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<v Speaker 7>gonna hit the same?

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<v Speaker 4>Like? I know the craft? I know that, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know the craft, but I study the craft,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. I stay in it, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's like, but it goes back to growth as

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<v Speaker 7>a human, growth as an artist, right right? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 7>the artist is the artist outgrew the outgrew the self,

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<v Speaker 7>outgrew me.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>That led to chaos and hell right, but the work

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<v Speaker 7>was wicked, right, The work was good.

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<v Speaker 4>I just say wicked, But the work was good.

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<v Speaker 7>Right now, Now, what's gonna happen when the work that

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<v Speaker 7>I've done and I continue to do on myself now

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<v Speaker 7>it becomes worthy of the audience's the scripts, the stories

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<v Speaker 7>of characters I play. What's gonna happen to this guy?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, is he gonna I don't know what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 7>I will say this, I'm nervous, but I'm very excited,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. I'm very excited because like that,

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<v Speaker 7>I've got no you know, I don't got that, you

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<v Speaker 7>know what I mean. So I'm like, cool, I got it.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I was thinking about you say bolt right, you

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<v Speaker 7>say both. I was listening to a podcast and they

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 7>were talking about you, saying about the fast my own

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:58.880
<v Speaker 7>planet is the most jollyus man on the track.

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<v Speaker 4>He's funny, he's laughing, he's doing this thing. And then

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't. He's the fastest man on the planet.

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<v Speaker 7>And I go, oh, oh, that's the that's the vibe,

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<v Speaker 7>Like I can be serious about what I do. I

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<v Speaker 7>can I can apply my craft. I can really dog

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<v Speaker 7>myself in the craft. That's the game, you know what

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<v Speaker 7>I mean. If you want to make something for people,

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<v Speaker 7>m hmm. My opinion is I want to make something

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<v Speaker 7>for people that they understand. I care, right, I care

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<v Speaker 7>about If I'm playing a bodybuilder, I care about the

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<v Speaker 7>bodybuilding community. If I'm playing Jesse Brown, you know from devotion,

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 7>I care about his legacy, his family. I apply everything

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<v Speaker 7>I have into that, right, but you can.

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 4>Also laughing joker and have a good time, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>And and like that part, that part, I didn't do

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<v Speaker 7>those things. You know. I was nice and jolly on

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<v Speaker 7>set and this and this, but there's a part of

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<v Speaker 7>me that just wouldn't allow myself to you know, I've

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<v Speaker 7>never seen a movie I made, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>you know it's playing the more the more, the more

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<v Speaker 7>I think about it, I think there was a part

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<v Speaker 7>of me that felt unworthy of being on the screen, well,

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 7>unworthy of of of like like that's that's I made

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<v Speaker 7>it for them, you know, like like you made that

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<v Speaker 7>art for the people, you struggle for the people, you know,

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 7>in the art form it's done now, you know. And

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<v Speaker 7>so I never I never got to close the loop

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<v Speaker 7>in a way, right, I never got to come back

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<v Speaker 7>to the to the community.

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 4>I never got to come back to the audience. You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I know they love the or they didn't love you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the character or the movie, but I never got to

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:35.879
<v Speaker 7>stay connected to them. And that and that's really the

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<v Speaker 7>biggest part of this. I don't wanner sound like you

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<v Speaker 7>know this rebirth, that's a word. It's not my neck,

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 7>I can say it right this rebirth where it's like, oh,

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.239
<v Speaker 7>connection and help, that's the game, you know what I mean,

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 7>Connection and help and not just playing you know, the

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 7>movie star role and like getting trucks for the crew

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 7>and you know, send them flowers which all comes from

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<v Speaker 7>my heart.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>But then when they come and say thank you, I

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 7>couldn't receive it. I couldn't receive love, you see. I

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 7>could give it, yeah, I mean, but I couldn't receive it.

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<v Speaker 7>But then love that's been given and you're not receiving

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 7>is that is that love?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, rejection is a common theme with this film.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that's what it sounds like you're describing now,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 5>Like you're afraid of rejection. Like when Killian's boss says

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 5>to him, nobody knows you, nobody knows who you are

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 5>to me. It dismisses everything he wants, you know, the recognition,

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 5>the being seen, the magazine dreams, so to speak. So

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<v Speaker 5>how much does that moment increase, you know, Killian's demand

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<v Speaker 5>for respect and how how much did that hit home

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 5>for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Hm hmm.

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<v Speaker 7>I think in that moment in the in the picture

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 7>where he says that, you know, because he's on his

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 7>Killian is kill is always riding pretty idling, pretty high.

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean there is, there is.

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<v Speaker 7>There is always a sense of like I am always

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 7>in the room when I'm acting. Right, there's the it's

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 7>the most here it comes. It is the most unsocialized,

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 7>the most pure version of myself that that I bring

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<v Speaker 7>into the art form. It's my nine year old self, right,

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 7>you know, and you know, as as as the article

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 7>speaks about in this and this, like you know, my

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 7>life changed a little bit now change a lot around

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 7>you know the ages of eight to like fourteen, you

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 7>know what I mean. And that's the kid that was

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 7>pure and honest and you know, worthy of love and

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:37.120
<v Speaker 7>sunshine and playgrounds and all that stuff. You know, that's

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 7>where I'm operating from. But around that time, it's also

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 7>the time the thing shifted. And so when that man

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 7>says that to me, yeah, Killian has his brain going,

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 7>it's like, oh, you know, and he does what he does,

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 7>But there's also part of me that goes, you know,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 7>my dad left at that time. You know, so you go,

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 7>that's that sensitivity part your work. We all have to

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.959
<v Speaker 7>work from that child, right, with that child, right, and

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 7>so in that moment, you just let that child go

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 7>and he takes it. He hears it, and he responds.

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I definitely heard it with Killian's ears and

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 7>my ears, you know. And the response is the response

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 7>in the picture, you know.

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, you.

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 6>Said you never watch your work. You didn't watch the

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 6>love Craft Country?

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 7>Did I watch Lovecraft Country? I saw probably thirty five

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 7>minutes of Lovecraft Country. It's a ten hour it's a

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 7>two hour thing.

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, am I.

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Seeing it four times? You ain't watch it?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you bad thing?

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.959
<v Speaker 4>And it's also twofold, right. It's also the fact that

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 4>I grew up in the theater. You know, I do theater.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 4>I hope to do a little theater this year here

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 4>in the city. Yeah, I do theater. That's just not

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 4>a part of my upbringing, you know what I mean,

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 4>like like.

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 7>Watching Yeah, well not necessarily. Who also grew up on

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 7>the country, you know, in the country. You know, it's

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 7>like my entertainment was throwing you know, throwing glass bottles

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 7>at the at the trash thing, you know what I mean,

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 7>Like that's what we did, you know, or go hanging

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 7>out in the Creek, you know, byself, you know, like.

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Just chilling, you know, outdoors, outdoors.

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 7>You know, and reading books, you know. And then when

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 7>I matriculated into the drama programs that I went to,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't. I don't care what I look like.

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't care what I mean, I care now you

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying. You know, I have a makeup

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 4>on It's crazy, uh, you know.

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Never I never wore makeup.

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 7>I don't wear makeup in pictures, right, never wore makeup

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 7>in the movie, you know. But you know, it's a

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 7>new game now. And I was like, all right, cool,

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 7>I still have to say that it's.

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 4>Just not a part of my.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 7>It's not part of my art lineage right to watch,

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 7>I think, you know, as I move into direct thing

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 7>when I'm producing things. Lovecraft Magazine Dreams is the first

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 7>film that I produced with my production company, Tall Street,

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 7>which is dope. If I wasn't in the picture as much,

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 7>I well, yeah, I definitely would have watched it, you know,

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 7>because because now it's a different part of the art form,

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 7>you know.

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 4>But as an actor, we don't. I don't. I don't

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 4>watch myself.

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 7>I think all the ale's out there in North Carolina

0:28:58.280 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 7>School the Arts, grass and actors just act.

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 4>There's you know who came up in the theater. Yeah

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 4>that is an that's a novel thing. Yeah.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 7>We watch our auditions, you know, to make sure they're

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 7>wicked dope. But you don't watch, you know, to me,

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 7>it can get you in your head. I don't you know,

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 7>don't don't invite you know, criticism. You know, when it

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 7>comes to the art form, you know.

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 3>You'll probably break yourself down.

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely, especially in the audition process. You know, definitely

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 4>the audition process.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 3>When you talk about inviting things.

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 8>And I was sitting here thinking because I heard it

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 8>was two questions I had for you, just sitting listening

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 8>to you when you talk about the projects that you

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 8>have coming up. I thought about, like the fact that

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 8>right now you're on this press run. When you sat

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 8>down with CAVIU Frager and you said wifey, and then

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 8>the story came out about you guys being married, it

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 8>was like, oh my god, he's married. But then on

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 8>another hand, it was like he announced this because all

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 8>this other stuff came.

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Out the Rolling Stone article with the audio.

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 8>You right now are working and moving, but I feel

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 8>like I don't even know it's not on purpose, but

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 8>there's so many things that are coming at you. How

0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 8>are you dealing with all of that? Because being married

0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 8>is that's a good moment. Being able to get back

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 8>to work is a good moment. But there's a lot

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 8>coming your way. What's the daily Like who I can

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:08.719
<v Speaker 8>do this because you've done the work on yourself at

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 8>this point.

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 7>Amen, it's the work, you know, and it's God, you know.

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 7>And also like in our family, like we've been through it.

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 7>We've been through a lot in a short amount of time,

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean, Like we are we're war

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 7>buddies and husband and wife you know, and best friends,

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 7>like but for real, for real war. But it's not

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 7>like oh yeah, no no, no, no, no, no, no no.

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 7>We've been through it, you know what I mean, and

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 7>we'll continue to go through it. But something that we

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 7>really talk about and something like we can't let like

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 7>we gotta live our life, you know what I.

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 4>Mean, Like, yes, everyone in this room, you know, it's in.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 7>The public eye, right if I didn't do something that

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 7>I had planned, by the way, that I have planned.

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Months ago, Because.

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 7>There's a there's a there's a we're having a bad

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 7>day you know, one of us are having a bad

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 7>day or or I'm having a really bad day. I

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 7>would not get up in the morning, you know what

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I wouldn't get up in the morning.

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 4>So so who who's going to dictate my life? Who's

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 4>going to take my happiness? You know?

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 7>Well me and God, you know, and whatever wife people

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 7>is feeling that day. You know, like my mother this ring.

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Because your mom, your mom married you.

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 4>Guys, my mother married this, right, And it was that

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 4>plan too.

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Like that was originally that's how we went ever.

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 7>Plan right, Like in this my wedding ring is in grade.

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 7>It says my love of life. Right, this was engraved

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 7>six months ago. No, probably probably I wish she was here. Uh,

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 7>she's here somewhere.

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 6>She ain't gonna be mad that you don't notice, right,

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 6>Sugar Mayne A while ago.

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we had done.

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 7>We had in April twenty four, but in Hawaii, you know,

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 7>after I spoke to her father and me had more chats.

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 7>I speke to father twice. Uh love you pop. Yeah,

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 7>and then we had to plan for you know, the

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 7>the movie you know, Tom and Briarcliffe was like, we're

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 7>doing this, man, if you feel ready to go out there.

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna go out there? Right? What else am I

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 4>gonna do?

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 8>Because even that gets overshadowed because the way that when

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 8>people talk about this movie, it's like, oh, it's his

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 8>comeback after such and such.

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>But you've been working on this for years.

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 7>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but but it but it but

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 7>the comeback? Oh yes, so yeah, Mom was already coming, right, Tommy, we.

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 4>Already had our chat.

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, Tom is Meghan's dad.

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 7>Oh no, no, no, Uh, Tom is the owner of

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 7>Briarcliffe who's distributing my family right, Uh, mister good is

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 7>making us day.

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 7>So so yeah, we had already had it set up,

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 7>and my mother, who was a pastor or theay minister,

0:32:58.000 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 7>was coming out for the It was such a big

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 7>thing that that magazine Dreams was coming out and my

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 7>mother had not come to a premier. My sister had

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.719
<v Speaker 7>come to a premier, my daughter had come to a premier.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 7>Still got to get my brother out to one, but

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 7>my mother had not come to a premiere.

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 4>And so we had already planned.

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 7>Once we had the date, Okay, Mommy coming out on

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 7>this date, and then from that point we're like, all right, cool,

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 7>you're here, bring your stuff, bring your gear whatever, whatever,

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 7>you know, stuff you put on the married folks because

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 7>she also married my Wait did.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 4>She marry all of us? Yeah?

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 7>My mother married my brother and she married my sister. Wow,

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 7>and now she married me and so yeah, that's that.

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 7>We not a tradition in the family. So there was

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 7>no question I was going to marry us, you know,

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 7>very intentional.

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 5>Do you have an idea of who is creating this

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 5>targeted attack, because let's be clear, I think it's a

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 5>targeted attack. I mean when I look at you know

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 5>you got to charge with mister mena assault and harassment.

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>We see you on video running away from this relation.

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 5>There's the optics of the big black man, you know,

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 5>white white, blondhaired woman. And it's like every time you're

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 5>about to do something right, like the Hollywood Report article

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 5>comes out, start hearing this good news about magazine Dreams,

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 5>then all of a sudden it's audio.

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Leaks and the audio is from twenty twenty two.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 5>Come on, man, you gotta know that there's somebody targeting you.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 5>Because everybody deserves redemption. That's people out here screaming for

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 5>other folks to get redemption that have done way worse.

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I've been accused the way.

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 4>Work and have been granted. Yes, some guys.

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean listen, let the streets talk, you know, let

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 7>the streets talk. You know, it's very again. I got

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 7>a whole wife to deal with, you know, I got

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 7>I got a bunch of dogs. I got a twelve

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 7>year old daughter I got to get to and spend

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 7>some time with, and you know, show us, show her

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:39.399
<v Speaker 7>more stuff, you know what I mean.

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 5>Like, but you know that you could be getting granted

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 5>a lot more grades. I even think about like Marvel. Marvel,

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, they had controversies with gods like Jeremy Renner

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 5>who plays Hotkeye, the guy who played Naymore, had some things,

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 5>but they were so quick to part ways with you.

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Robert Downey Jr. Was a lot of grades Like mm hmmm.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 7>I mean you play the hanging, you know, and it's

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 7>not over till it's over, you know what I mean, Like,

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 7>it's not over till it's over. You know, there's just

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 7>this one thing I know. I love my wife, I

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 7>love my daughter, I love my family. I love this

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 7>art form, and I trust in God. And I know

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 7>for a fact what's in me right now? I mean

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm on fire inside. You know, I'm on fire.

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 4>The next time I hit a set, I can't wait

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 4>to tell that story, to spend time with the crew,

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 4>to promote that film, to get out to the people,

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 4>to come see you guys again. And I have no

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 4>doubt in my mind. You know that it's going to happen.

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know when, you know, though, we have you know,

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 4>we have things in the works. But you know.

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>What those rumors about Marvel bringing King back true.

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 7>Man, here's the thing about Marvel, right, you don't know

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 7>until you know. You know what I mean, You don't

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 7>know until you know. I will say this though, of

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 7>all the characters I played, right, King carries a certain

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 7>novelty and a certain challenge for an actor that I

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 7>would I would, I would, I would. I would love

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 7>to play it again, you know. And so when I

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 7>hear people talk about it, as long as the streets

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 7>are talking, as long as the fans are talking, you

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 7>know there is a there's hope, you know, because look,

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 7>Disney is a Look we all grew up on Disney.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 7>Maybe maybe not, you know, but like they got us,

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 7>you know, they got us, you know, I mean, like

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 7>we're locked in we know. I love Disneyland. I love

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 7>Disney World. You know, Hercules, you know Robinhood. These are

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 7>things we grew up on, you know what I mean.

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 4>I love it. And when I was invited to the

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Marvel universe to play you know, if all characters king

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 4>I loved it, I miss it.

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 7>I want to do it again. The role is incredible,

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 7>it is It is unique from any other role I've

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 7>ever played because of the the lexicon of characters that

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 7>this man, this character gets to play. I absolutely want

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 7>to do it again. You know, if there's a way,

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 7>I would love to be there. But you know, again,

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 7>that's in Guy's hands. That's in the hands of you know,

0:36:56.400 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 7>the the Disney Corporation and the shareholders and all of that.

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 7>And you know, we're in a divided world right now,

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 7>and so all at me.

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm here.

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 8>You know, how was the letter that you wrote to

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 8>Marvel uh to Kevin? How was that letter received?

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 7>I don't know how it was received, you know, But

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 7>but you know, I've got his info. I know it's him,

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean, And I sent it to him,

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 7>you know, and he's a he's in I'm sure he

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 7>was in a tough position when I sent it to him.

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 7>It was it was long after a lot of this stuff.

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 7>You know, Yeah, I really liked I really I love

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 7>that man, you know that, that that specific individual. I

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 7>really love him. You know, I've got nothing but love

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 7>for Marvel. But yeah, you know, uh yeah, you know

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 7>I didn't hear back.

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 5>You know, but I treated you like Brad van Dorn.

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 5>You gotta watch the movie magazine.

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Uh, that's good.

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 5>I want to ask you about that because it was

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 5>such a one sided relationship with Brad. Vand horn between

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 5>Killian and Brad in the movie, and you know, you

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 5>kept writing them these letters and he thinks he has

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 5>a connection with Brad.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like how fans.

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 5>Feel today, like they have a simple access to celebrities

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 5>that they don't actually have, but social media makes them

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.720
<v Speaker 5>feel like they do. Have you ever had a Chillian

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 5>in your life? Did you out here with your shirt

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 5>off all the time?

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, yes, yes, yes.

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 7>It's a delic of balance, like being a public figure

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 7>right as we all are in this room, you know,

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 7>or even just be spoiler alert, everybody's a public figure

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 7>if you have an Instagram is out there, you know

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 7>what I mean. So like it's all about being kind,

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.240
<v Speaker 7>you know, Like, yeah, I've dealt with that multiple times,

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 7>you know.

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 4>And it's like.

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 7>You have to set boundaries, you know, and you have

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 7>to be kind, but you also have to understand that

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 7>these individuals are also the individuals that allow you, that

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 7>prop you up to be this public figure, as it were.

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 7>So it's a delicate balance, you know. However, you know,

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 7>everybody just understand boundaries, Like you know, I understand like

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 7>even if I know you, you know what I mean,

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 7>Like you and me, if I text you, bro and

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.280
<v Speaker 7>you don't text me back, I'm not coming to the studio.

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm not coming to the studio.

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 7>Like it's your boy hit me back, like two days later,

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 7>urgent Negro hit me back. And if you don't hit

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 7>me back, and then I would go around the other way,

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 7>be like, hey call this man, see what's going on.

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm not showed up to your house, you

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, I'm not doing that, you know.

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 4>But that's because I have boundaries.

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 7>You have balance, you know what I mean. I respect you,

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 7>you respect me, you know. So yeah, I've dealt with that.

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 7>And how much do you owe to the fan, the

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 7>fan or the fans.

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 5>Fans, Yes, I ge I guess I said fan in

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 5>this particular situation.

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 7>In that in that regardless, Here's thing, you know, I

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 7>think every everybody's different. But I love my fans. I

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 7>love them even more now, you know what I mean.

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 7>I think that anything you asked me to do, you know,

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 7>within reason, I'm gonna do it. Like I'm gonna do it.

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 7>I don't mind. You know, I'm just built like that though,

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean, Like we're a team. I

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 7>understand that.

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 4>You you know what I mean.

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 7>And I also understand like like yeah, I got fans,

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 7>but like I'm not so and so and so and so.

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 7>You know what I mean, I'm not you know, Timothy Shallow,

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 7>may you know what I mean.

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Where it's like that's just.

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 4>Wow, you know what I mean. Like like I'm me,

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 4>you know.

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:34.879
<v Speaker 7>And I've got my demographic, I've got my team, I've

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 7>got my Marble.

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 4>Fans, my Creed fans.

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 7>By this fan, I love them, you know what I mean,

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 7>I love them. You know if they step over the line,

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 7>that's why you got scaredy, you know what I mean?

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 6>You know what made uh, how did Zeus Network become

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.320
<v Speaker 6>the home for magazine dreams.

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 7>That's a beautiful story. That's a beautiful story. So I

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 7>just got done doing Hollywood Unlocked. Our brother and friend,

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 7>Jason Lee. Yeah, well up Jason Lee.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm coming, bro, don't trip, I'm coming. So thanks thanks.

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 7>Uh yeah, Jason Lee reached out to uh, to us

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 7>and was like, hey man, we want to do this.

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 7>He took a he took a he took a shot

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.479
<v Speaker 7>with us, and we did the We did the award show,

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 7>and then we found out. I found out through the

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 7>award show that Lemmy as Zeus was kind of like

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 7>operating the whole thing, you know, like he was sponsoring

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 7>the whole thing, you know, supporting the whole thing. We

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 7>had a beautiful night, you know, a very healing night

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 7>that night for the family, which is and for myself especially,

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 7>And then time goes along and I get a phone call.

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 7>This is after Bridcliffe had already picked it up. You know,

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 7>it is what it is. You know, like people have

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 7>their opinions, they go, hey, yeah, I don't want to

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 7>I don't want to help anymore. You know, we lose

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 7>the money, and then you know a certain amount of

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 7>the money. Right, Tom holds steady, as he always does,

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 7>but you know, we lose the money a certain portion

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 7>of it and we need it or the film's not

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 7>coming out, you know, like just not coming out. And

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 7>I literally got on the phone, you know, baby, was like, hey,

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, what do you think we should do.

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I don't know what you think we should do.

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 4>We put a list together. We're like, you know, ah, no, yes, yes, yes, yes.

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 4>That happened.

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 7>And then I had a meeting with Jason, Me and

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 7>Jason and his buddy Robert. We just sat and chatted

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 7>and he said, yeah, you know, I got an idea.

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 7>Let me run it by you. He said, yeah, you

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 7>should hit him. So we hit Lemmy right. I called

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 7>Lemmy directly, literally big shout out to Lemmy and Zeus.

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 7>I called Lemmy. The meeting was at nine am. I

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 7>called Lemmy at twelve. When I got back to the

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.439
<v Speaker 7>house after training. We sat there, I texted me, text

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 7>me back. I told him what the game was. He said,

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm in. He hadn't seen the movie. He said, I'm in.

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 7>I got you, brother, right mm hmm. When he was transferred,

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:02.479
<v Speaker 7>deal was done.

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow, like that that's what I like to hear.

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 5>That's God when somebody tell you I'm in and then

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:08.479
<v Speaker 5>they put their money in their.

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 4>Mouth in sight unseen, Wow, site unseen. I got you,

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I got you, you know.

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 7>So I mean big ups to Zeus network and let

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 7>me and all his team, all his soldiers, Like that's

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 7>a he's the real deal. And we need that it

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 7>within the culture, you know, I mean, like we need

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 7>someone that's gonna go. I'm betting on you, you know,

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm betting on us, deon Taylor. We need

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 7>that look yeah you know, of course, yeah, yeah, I'm tripping,

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 7>I'm tripping together.

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 8>But even the awards show that moment because the wors

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 8>Show happened and then the meeting would let me happen

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 8>like the Worst Show moment.

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 3>I think it went so viral.

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 8>I mean, you were very emotional when people got to

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 8>see that, but it was like publicly the first time

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 8>after everything that some of them was like really taking

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 8>a major chance behind you, like this person deserves to

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 8>be able to come back and say his piece or whatever.

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:56.280
<v Speaker 3>That alone.

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 8>Like when Jason first called you for that award, how

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 8>did you feel like, we're you kind of hesitant?

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 7>Where you so much trauma, you know, so much trauma

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 7>when he called, I was like, I mean, I was

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 7>so small at that time, you know, inside, you know,

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 7>I was just like I was just starting with my

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, avengers of therapists and pastors, you know what

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 7>I mean. So I was still working a lot of

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 7>things out. And when he called, I was like, man,

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 7>that ain't gonna happen. You know, like you get the

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.720
<v Speaker 7>first of Doorphin hit the dopaminion, like, yeah, okay, cool,

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 7>cool cool, But no, that's not gonna happen. They're gonna

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 7>let they are not gonna let you do that, you.

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Know what I mean.

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 7>And yeah, but even Jason, even Jason was getting caught.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 7>I mean, he had resistance, right, he had resistance, and

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 7>he's listening and he knows what I'm talking about. I'm

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 7>not gonna put his business in the street. He had resistance.

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 7>But Jason Lee said, hey, I'm gonna get this done.

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 4>Bro, I got you. I'm gonna get this done, you know.

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 7>And I go, all right, bro, you know, we have calls,

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:01.839
<v Speaker 7>everybody's on the call, we write the speech. Speech is like, well,

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 7>you know, the speech ain't gonna work. You know, I

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 7>ain't gonna come up.

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.879
<v Speaker 7>It was crazy, but Jason was I believe in him.

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 7>I believe in this, We're gonna do it, and he

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 7>did it, and he did it, you.

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Know, and bring him his visit into it.

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 4>That was everything?

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Was that?

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 8>What was the planning around that that? How early did

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 8>that happen or did she say hey, I want to

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 8>be involved.

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 7>I can't speak to that in super detail, but I

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 7>do know that Jason, Jason had a real conversation with her,

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 7>and she understood the situation, believed in redemption, believed in

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 7>you know, helping, you know what I mean. And she

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 7>came and she did it, and she she did it.

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 7>I felt that, you know, I felt that, and I'm

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 7>so grateful to her, you know, I love it.

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Imagine. Question, how have your views on Hollywood chance?

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 5>Because you said that you're not Timothy Sharlow made, but

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 5>Hollywood was setting you up to be that next gold boy,

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Like they all acted like they loved you before the scandal,

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 5>and as soon as there was some smoke, it was off.

0:45:58.160 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>You do you take that personal?

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 7>Two years of reflection, you get to sit back and

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 7>just kind of go, Okay, what's the game, you know

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 7>what I mean? Because let's be honest, like if anybody

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 7>doesn't think that it's an industry. It's an industry, you

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 7>know what I mean, And money is involved, and I

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 7>don't know's it's anyone in Hollywood, anyone in the entertainment

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 7>understands that, Like, yeah, this is a town. It's a

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 7>town that goes up and down, up and down. You're

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 7>hot your coat, you're this shit that, you're.

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 4>This shoor that. But to be you know, in such

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 4>a position, you know, with.

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 7>So many allies, friends, studios, all of it, you know

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 7>what I mean, Like it's all there, you know, and

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 7>then to watch it go. It was just a very

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 7>clear understanding that this is a business. I mean, And

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 7>there are some personal things where I go that hurt,

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 7>that hurt me, you know what I mean, That hurt

0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 7>my bank account, that hurt me, you know what I mean?

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:05.240
<v Speaker 7>Does it change my perspective? I was always talent forward.

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 7>I was always talent forward. I want to make sure

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:13.919
<v Speaker 7>that I'm doing the best I can in the role

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 7>I'm doing, and like that that's all that mattered to me,

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 7>you know. But I saw more, you know, in tandem.

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 7>You know, when I'm looking at what's happening, what was

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 7>happening with Meghan or you know the amount of pressure

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 7>and heat and shame that was trying to be thrown

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 7>on people who did stick with me. You know, my agent,

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 7>Along Ruthfully, he's a dog man. He stayed man, he

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 7>fought for me. I just love him. You know, he's

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 7>my brother. You know, he is my brother. You know,

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 7>Along Ruthfully, I love you, man. But when I saw

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 7>what he had to deal with, It's like, damn, that's crazy,

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean, Like, I don't I don't

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 7>want that in the industry at the whole was like, look,

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 7>the entry changes so quickly. You know, I am optimistic,

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, I can't stunt and be like blah blah blah.

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 7>But I'm a realist and I.

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 4>Go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that hurt, you know.

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 7>What I mean, doesn't change my respective. I knew it

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 7>was always a game. You know, I'm cool to saying

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 7>that before that's the game.

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 5>I remember, Lauren, you probably know, but I remember there

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.800
<v Speaker 5>was an article that came out and it was just

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of different people, you know, saying you were

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:23.360
<v Speaker 5>emotionally abusive to that, you know, verbally abusive and you

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 5>know it works you before and it wasn't a pleasant

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 5>experience when that came out. Did you ever look at

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 5>any of that stuff and say, Okay, some of that

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 5>might be justified.

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I might have been an asshole in that situation.

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 4>That article.

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, they were talking about from college days, So

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not the same man.

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, well there there's there's some hmm. How did

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 7>it come at this one? Everybody's entiled to their opinion. Yeah,

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 7>I watched this as far as I'm just gonna I'm

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:13.800
<v Speaker 7>just gonna stay some facts about school, school and this

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:15.359
<v Speaker 7>with no kind of school, the arts, and I also

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 7>went to Yale.

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 4>It was a Yale. I was on a full scholarship.

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 4>We all were.

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 7>I was also on a Lloyd Richards scholarship. Our brother,

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 7>Lord Richard's brought in August Woolson Camp all that stuff. Beautiful, beautiful,

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 7>beautiful man, rest in peace. I was recipient of that.

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 7>When that information happened, When that when that, when that

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 7>started being said, that's when I went, that's what that's

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 7>That was hard because I go, this is Yale University.

0:49:56.400 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 7>Where's the write up if all of this is true,

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 7>where's the write up from my administration, from my dean?

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.359
<v Speaker 7>Where is it that was the only thing in which

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 7>I got involved because it was supposed to be family, right.

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 7>I got involved and went show me, show me, show

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:19.360
<v Speaker 7>me a paperwork. I not my lawyer. I hit my

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 7>dean and said show me, said no, there's nothing there.

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 7>I step up the email.

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? Do I still wear my

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:28.319
<v Speaker 4>yell cap? Yeah?

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 7>Because I went there. You know my class. You know

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:37.840
<v Speaker 7>I love them. I love them and I understand. I understand.

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 7>I don't agree with it, but I understand. You know,

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 7>in all off.

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 6>Record, hmm, what went through your mind when Michael Illy

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:53.319
<v Speaker 6>had picked up Megan. I want to see you. I

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 6>want to see you answer that one. I want to

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 6>see what did this happen?

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:57.479
<v Speaker 4>In the movie?

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 8>Was going to carpet, remember, and Michael he came up

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 8>and said hello to Megan and the clip that they

0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 8>had online he picked her up the clip they had online.

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 8>You were just standing there and people say, y'all. I

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 8>know he was salty, but there was the part of

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 8>you all shaking hands before too.

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 7>Oh.

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 4>I remember this. I remember. I remember. I love that

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:19.240
<v Speaker 4>pretty man. Look at him pretty lifting up my wife.

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 4>It's all good. No, no, no, that's my brother, that's my brother.

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean.

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 7>Wife, they have they have they have a beautiful friendship,

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 7>they have all these things, you know, like and and respectfully,

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.080
<v Speaker 7>because like, we have real life, and then we have

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.359
<v Speaker 7>what everyone says about our real life. Right and and

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 7>as you all know, we have to navigate between those

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 7>two things.

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 7>If the things people say about our life actually make

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 7>their way into our lives, then the people have to

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 7>be mature enough to address it.

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:50.839
<v Speaker 4>And brother Eli, who.

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 7>I've seen many times, we did a workshop together at

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 7>Dion's place. Michael was like, hey, bro, my bad.

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? And I was like, respect

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 4>respect I was like.

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:04.360
<v Speaker 1>This man trained for Creed. All of them blows. Michael's

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 1>it's all love.

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I have a question about the movie.

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 8>Uh So, in magazine Dreams, your relationship with your father

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 8>is insane because of the thing that him and your

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 8>mom and I don't want to give it away. Yeah,

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.439
<v Speaker 8>with your father, but in real life too, you talk

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 8>about your dad leaving your life, and you know some

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:31.439
<v Speaker 8>of the things you dealt with after that. Channeling your

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:34.720
<v Speaker 8>real relationship with your dad and then bringing it onto screen,

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 8>what did you pull from specifically and what did you

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 8>purposely say? I don't want to pull from this because

0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 8>I don't want to revisit that.

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 7>If it's in there, right, if it's in there and

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:45.399
<v Speaker 7>it's it's conscious, you know.

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:48.359
<v Speaker 4>That's the job, right.

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.839
<v Speaker 7>You got to use it, I use I mean, we can,

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 7>we can, We'll get We'll get to Magazine Dreams with

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 7>Michael Kay Williams, who actually played my father right in

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 7>My brother my brother Okay, whimas you played my father

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 7>in Lovecraft. He was dealing with it all day, right,

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 7>I was thinking about my daddy issues all day, right,

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:08.839
<v Speaker 7>because they were just right on top of each other

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.280
<v Speaker 7>right in in Magazine Dreams.

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, same thing.

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 7>You know you you you go, okay, you like this,

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 7>I like this. Cool that that's something that we say,

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:21.360
<v Speaker 7>Oh you get that for nothing, right, You get that

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 7>for nothing right? And in your work you go, okay, cool,

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 7>this man is in love with this woman.

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Cool.

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 7>I know what that is. I'm in love with my woman. Boo, Okay,

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.200
<v Speaker 7>I get that for nothing right. And the details and

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 7>the specificity of that relationship are drawn out through the

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 7>actual characterization and and the world that we're in. But

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 7>I just want, I just want to be clear it's

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 7>you're talking about like, because because Dad's not in the movie.

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 4>No, it's I just want to make sure.

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Your grandfather.

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:55.480
<v Speaker 6>But I had to look upway.

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 8>That's why it's hard for me to ask the question

0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 8>because you got to get so much set up with it.

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 8>But I was basically asking because it's such a messed

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 8>up situation that you're taking care of your papa. And

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 8>then and then in real life you talk about your

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 8>dad and him leaving you and your mom, like I've

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 8>heard you talk about that a couple of times.

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 3>And then your mom came to to see this movie.

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:18.360
<v Speaker 8>And I know mom had to be like, you know

0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:20.399
<v Speaker 8>that there's some trauma probably with her too that came

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 8>back in.

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, uh, every time you

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 7>have to touch something, you kind of want to make

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:31.920
<v Speaker 7>it connect, you know what I mean, You want to

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 7>make it connect. And and you know, my father, my

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.160
<v Speaker 7>biological father, my dad. You know, I don't want to

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:41.320
<v Speaker 7>hurt him, right, but I love him, you know, but

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:44.879
<v Speaker 7>but we experienced something that could have been avoided had

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 7>he not done what he's done, you know what I mean,

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 7>done what he did. Come on, yeah, yeah, thank you, brother,

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. So, so there's that, and

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:58.080
<v Speaker 7>so you because what we're talking about is to share

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 7>trauma right between Killian understands and what happened to him

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 7>in his world and what I understand what happened to

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:05.720
<v Speaker 7>be in my world, and.

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:06.120
<v Speaker 4>That that.

0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 7>The visceral abandonment, if that makes sense. It's something that

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:17.280
<v Speaker 7>I can always connect to and it's something that I've experienced,

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 7>something a Killian Achillian does experience. And so in that

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:24.239
<v Speaker 7>in that monologum right where we're going through it. Yeah,

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 7>obviously the images of of of my father, you know who.

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.319
<v Speaker 7>Let me be very clear, I love my dad, you know,

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 7>I love him, you know, for the man he is,

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 7>you know, but it is what it is, you know

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 7>what I mean, And it's it's up to him.

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:44.359
<v Speaker 4>To fix that. You I mean, I understand that.

0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, you make a mistake, It's up to you

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 7>to fix it. You know something wrong with you, It's

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:50.440
<v Speaker 7>up to you to fix it. So you know, standing

0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 7>by dad, standing by no.

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:56.879
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you something, man, when when you when once

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 5>you if you actually and I don't know if you have,

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 5>but when you actually have converse with your father and

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:05.359
<v Speaker 5>he tells you about his upbringing yep, his childhood and

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 5>the things he went through I guarantee you'll end up

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:10.760
<v Speaker 5>giving them more grace because I remember my father telling

0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:13.040
<v Speaker 5>me that he went to therapy two and three times

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 5>a week and he was on ten to twelve different

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 5>medications for his various mental health issue and he tried.

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 1>To commit suicide back in the day.

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 5>When I when he told me that, it just it

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.760
<v Speaker 5>just allowed me to give him so.

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Much more grace.

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 5>And I think sometimes we forget our parents had a

0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:29.360
<v Speaker 5>life before they were for our parents.

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 4>And currently has lives while they were our past, you

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:31.839
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean.

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.319
<v Speaker 7>So like and we all know, like bring a child

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 7>into bro thank you, Like like I completely agree with that,

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:41.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, and and and I'm all my way to that.

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:42.719
<v Speaker 3>At that place.

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 7>It's just but it's just that like this is this

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 7>is the rebirth, this is the new this is the

0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 7>this is.

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 4>The new bop, you know.

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 7>Like like my big brother says to me, hey dog,

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 7>you know and straight up I've heard that before, right,

0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:57.319
<v Speaker 7>but like O Megan said it to me before, you know.

0:56:57.400 --> 0:56:59.320
<v Speaker 7>And it's just like he speaks to my brother, he

0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:01.640
<v Speaker 7>speaks to my mom, he speaks to my sister, you

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:03.840
<v Speaker 7>know what I mean. I'm just the eldest son you know,

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 7>the southern eldest son. That may mean something some of

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 7>the listeners. Right, that's different, you know what I mean,

0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 7>And it's like it's a different thing. But but then

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 7>it's not right like that chat, that's something else, right,

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 7>you speaking from your hurt there right, hearing you now right,

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:20.240
<v Speaker 7>you helped me.

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, damn, you're right.

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 5>Because you know it makes me think about the character

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:31.920
<v Speaker 5>Killian right when you're watching the film, the angry black

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 5>man persona, whatever you want to say it is. It's

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:38.440
<v Speaker 5>all justified, you know, being the way he lost his parents,

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 5>with his grandfather's going through you know all of that.

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:44.920
<v Speaker 5>But your trauma is not your fault, but your healing

0:57:44.960 --> 0:57:47.680
<v Speaker 5>is your response to responsibility. And I think by the

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 5>end of the movie that's what he learns. That's what

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 5>I wish I would have You would have explored a

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 5>little bit more because we solve the problems.

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>But where was this.

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna watch the I mean, I promise this you

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 7>were gonna let us take time to watch the last

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 7>three minutes of the picture at some point together.

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 4>And wait, we gotta stop talking about this. This is

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 4>a spoiler.

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:20.600
<v Speaker 6>Something you know, watch a movie, because listen, he is.

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 6>He really watched he's been talking about this is yesterday.

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Look, he'd be up.

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 6>Here in line and everybody listening to the albums before

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 6>we come in here.

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 1>He told them, little people, I watched the show, did.

0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:34.439
<v Speaker 4>Not did not watch the show.

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 6>He watched this movie, called me yo, you need to

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:39.880
<v Speaker 6>watch Yo.

0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 1>This is this is great, this is greatest role ever.

0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like this. How you know he is in

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 3>here expounding love.

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:47.959
<v Speaker 1>That's what just told me when I said you should

0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>watch magadthe Drink. I will, but let me finish watching Tyler.

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Perry Jay go ahead.

0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 6>I was paid to do here on the movie because

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 6>you know I'll be doing reviews.

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Look, Magazine Dreams is one of the best movies. Just

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 1>to watch the brother. We love our brother. I get.

0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I get.

0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 8>I have another question about your dad. Has he seen

0:59:19.760 --> 0:59:22.520
<v Speaker 8>this movie? Do y'all talk often? Has he seen the movie?

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 4>D though little text here here and there? You know

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, like, uh, I need to FaceTime him

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 4>with his uh new daughter in law.

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 3>They always got a new.

0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 7>Gotta do that. But no, he's not. He's not seen it.

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 7>I mean I did, didn't see my link or anything.

0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 7>But look, I know my dad, like.

0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 3>He didn't hit you after the interview that you did

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 3>and where you talked about the.

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 7>I mean, but that's the thing, like I should probably

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:53.120
<v Speaker 7>holler at him. I will, I'll give him a shot.

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 7>I tabled it, well, tabled the best I could. You

0:59:57.320 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 7>really did with my mother beforehand.

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<v Speaker 3>So before that article came out.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, I had to had to, you know what

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 7>I mean? And I and I tabled it a little

1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 7>bit with my sister. I need to table it with

1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:16.960
<v Speaker 7>my father because you know, it's a lot, you know.

1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 7>I mean, like somebody was discussing with you know, some

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:22.920
<v Speaker 7>of your colleagues, journalistic colleagues, you know, when you are

1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:27.600
<v Speaker 7>when we are quote unquote public figures, like your healing

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:28.720
<v Speaker 7>has to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Publicly, does it?

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<v Speaker 7>No? No, no, that's a question mark. Now, the question

1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 7>mark that doesn't happen publicly, you don't like, Like, that's.

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<v Speaker 8>Why I was wondering why you chose to reveal that

1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:42.600
<v Speaker 8>right now, because you have so much other stuff happening.

1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, well in.

1:00:44.240 --> 1:00:46.040
<v Speaker 8>Bringing your dad into and I have to cut you off.

1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:47.960
<v Speaker 8>But I thought it was I thought it was very

1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.080
<v Speaker 8>vulnerable of you. But I don't know if I would

1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:51.880
<v Speaker 8>have had the courage to do that right now in

1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:54.560
<v Speaker 8>your life because you're moving past so much stuff because

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 8>you you you not blame your dad, but you if

1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:00.280
<v Speaker 8>your dad was there, you felt like you would have

1:01:00.320 --> 1:01:03.240
<v Speaker 8>been protected. And that's heavy for everybody in the situation,

1:01:03.400 --> 1:01:05.960
<v Speaker 8>your mom and your mama. You said, your mom apologized

1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:08.200
<v Speaker 8>to you after that for not being there to protect you.

1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:10.560
<v Speaker 8>So it's heavy for everybody. And then it just stirs

1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:11.640
<v Speaker 8>up so much more stuff.

1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Well here's things. You don't stir it up, Something's gonna happen,

1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:21.120
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like like I it had

1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:22.720
<v Speaker 4>to be done right.

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<v Speaker 7>It's funny because in the in the interview we were

1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:28.480
<v Speaker 7>talking and because of the work that I was doing,

1:01:29.000 --> 1:01:32.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, quote unquote behind the scenes when we got there.

1:01:35.720 --> 1:01:39.200
<v Speaker 7>It's just I had been talking about it, you know,

1:01:39.840 --> 1:01:43.160
<v Speaker 7>and with my family, with with with Megan. I've been

1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:46.080
<v Speaker 7>talking about it with my my counselors, you know, and

1:01:46.120 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 7>my therapist. You know, it was there and it would

1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:52.600
<v Speaker 7>have been inauthentic in that moment, you know, I mean,

1:01:52.880 --> 1:01:56.040
<v Speaker 7>for me not to touch it, you know what I mean, I.

1:01:56.000 --> 1:01:58.240
<v Speaker 4>Would have done myself a disservice, you know what I mean.

1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:02.360
<v Speaker 4>And was it brave or this or this or this. No,

1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:02.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:04.560
<v Speaker 7>I don't see it that way, you know. I saw

1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:11.400
<v Speaker 7>it as when your pain outweighs no, when your needs

1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 7>for healing, your needs for healing outweighs your pain, right,

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:17.400
<v Speaker 7>you will heal.

1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1:02:18.880 --> 1:02:23.320
<v Speaker 7>And in that moment, the healing was right there, the

1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 7>pain was right here, right, but the need to heal

1:02:26.520 --> 1:02:29.000
<v Speaker 7>was greater. And I said, I gotta I gotta say this,

1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:31.360
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. We talked about fans.

1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:34.120
<v Speaker 4>We talked about people who people who just.

1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:38.960
<v Speaker 7>Admire someone right, admire me, Holy, if you're gonna do

1:02:39.000 --> 1:02:41.920
<v Speaker 7>that all of me, you know what I mean, I'm

1:02:41.960 --> 1:02:46.200
<v Speaker 7>not afraid to show it to you. Hate me, right,

1:02:46.520 --> 1:02:50.120
<v Speaker 7>but hate all of me? You know, I'm not playing

1:02:50.120 --> 1:02:50.480
<v Speaker 7>that game.

1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:52.200
<v Speaker 5>But a fan can't do that because he doesn't know

1:02:52.480 --> 1:02:54.440
<v Speaker 5>he or she doesn't know you in your whole totality.

1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:57.400
<v Speaker 7>They only know what but they think they do, they

1:02:57.400 --> 1:02:59.800
<v Speaker 7>think they do and and and there's no gimmick. I

1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:02.200
<v Speaker 7>don't want to if there's a fan of mine who's

1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:08.880
<v Speaker 7>experienced anything that I've experienced in my life. Right, my

1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:11.960
<v Speaker 7>job is my missions as an actor and artist and

1:03:11.960 --> 1:03:14.200
<v Speaker 7>a human being is to like, let me help you,

1:03:14.480 --> 1:03:17.200
<v Speaker 7>let me help you carry your cross. Right, that's what

1:03:17.200 --> 1:03:18.760
<v Speaker 7>you guys are doing for me right now. You are

1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:21.440
<v Speaker 7>helping me bear my cross. Right, And got that from

1:03:21.440 --> 1:03:25.040
<v Speaker 7>my brother Will right as well as what's all about job?

1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:27.120
<v Speaker 7>Our job is only to help someone bear their cross.

1:03:27.120 --> 1:03:28.520
<v Speaker 7>We can't bear it for them, but we can be

1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:29.360
<v Speaker 7>there for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. He said that to me. I went, oh, I

1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:34.680
<v Speaker 4>understand that. So if you're a fan, right, if.

1:03:34.560 --> 1:03:37.920
<v Speaker 7>You know me and you've experienced something like that, and

1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:41.800
<v Speaker 7>you see that, Okay, this has happened to him, and

1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:45.200
<v Speaker 7>this has happened to me, and he's doing this, it's

1:03:45.240 --> 1:03:48.760
<v Speaker 7>not impossible. A lot of a lot of the comeback,

1:03:48.800 --> 1:03:51.720
<v Speaker 7>a lot of the rebirth feels impossible because nobody has

1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:55.240
<v Speaker 7>ever attempted it before. You know what I mean. No

1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:57.200
<v Speaker 7>one's ever had the allies. I don't want to get

1:03:57.200 --> 1:03:59.200
<v Speaker 7>you in trouble, but no one's ever gotten the allies

1:03:59.240 --> 1:04:03.760
<v Speaker 7>with the friends, the support or the you know, I

1:04:03.800 --> 1:04:05.720
<v Speaker 7>want to demonstrate that, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>But you see, here's the thing. You don't throw your

1:04:10.440 --> 1:04:13.040
<v Speaker 5>people away like you don't. You don't you don't look

1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:14.479
<v Speaker 5>at the person to say, man, I'm not I'm gonna

1:04:14.480 --> 1:04:18.000
<v Speaker 5>reduce them to their worst moment. Like I knew you

1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:21.200
<v Speaker 5>before this. We worked on the project together Audible.

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<v Speaker 4>It apparently in the finals for some.

1:04:23.440 --> 1:04:26.840
<v Speaker 5>They got nominated for an AUDI for Best Drama. But

1:04:26.920 --> 1:04:30.280
<v Speaker 5>it's just like, Okay, he had a situation. Listen, we

1:04:30.320 --> 1:04:32.920
<v Speaker 5>assessed the situation. We look at the situation, we see

1:04:32.960 --> 1:04:33.919
<v Speaker 5>who the situation is.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he not? Is he not?

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<v Speaker 6>He?

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<v Speaker 5>Is he not above redemption? And the redemption isn't for everybody?

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<v Speaker 5>Like we always have to talk about cancel culture, but

1:04:41.040 --> 1:04:44.120
<v Speaker 5>what about redemption culture? You just cast him to the side,

1:04:44.160 --> 1:04:46.120
<v Speaker 5>say him for the rest of his life. Nah, I

1:04:46.160 --> 1:04:46.920
<v Speaker 5>don't agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, obviously you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you running down the screen from a white woman.

1:04:53.080 --> 1:04:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw it running from running for his life from Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>All the training you needed to do for Free three

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<v Speaker 1>was in that moment. Listen. There was a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you I saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a movie.

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<v Speaker 6>It's called The Actor Who Got Chased Around the City.

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<v Speaker 6>And yes, it was laughing because we on two B too.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I know what you talk about.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, Okay, So this is a movie. The director brilliant,

1:05:17.000 --> 1:05:18.720
<v Speaker 6>Alvin Gray. I don't know if you've seen. It's a

1:05:18.720 --> 1:05:21.240
<v Speaker 6>good movie. It's called The Actor who was Chased around

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<v Speaker 6>the City. He actually was gonna name it the Actor

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<v Speaker 6>who was Chased around the City by the white woman,

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<v Speaker 6>but he choose to Yeah, it was too long.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to watch it and it's good.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you know, might trigger you or not because no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>because the redemption for him is in the movie and

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<v Speaker 6>I just gave it away.

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<v Speaker 1>But you need to watch it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, from Baltimore, he makes films based on controversial I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 9>it's just a real movie.

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<v Speaker 1>To be that gid. It's a real movie. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, you gotta rap you. I really got two

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<v Speaker 1>more questions. You know. I want people to go watch

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<v Speaker 1>Magazine Dreams and when you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Watching it, I wondered if Killian's character is so frightening

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<v Speaker 5>because of how real it is, because we all know men,

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<v Speaker 5>especially black men, who suffer from untreated mental health issues,

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<v Speaker 5>and with him being so obsessed with bodybuilding a way

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<v Speaker 5>just to run from his trauma.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeap it so.

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<v Speaker 7>It covers it, right, It covers it, but it also

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<v Speaker 7>releases it right. But there is the there is so

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<v Speaker 7>much there that he can't he can't get out so

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<v Speaker 7>he's searching for validation.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>I wonder what would happen to Killian if if someone

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<v Speaker 7>just wow, if someone just spotted him. Hm, if someone

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<v Speaker 7>just saw this man lifted all this way and came

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<v Speaker 7>and helped him lift it, maybe that would change everything,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. Maybe there wouldn't be a

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<v Speaker 7>Killian Maddox had he had some type of connection, some

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<v Speaker 7>type of love, you know what I mean, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>He's brought that. The whole movie, in.

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<v Speaker 7>A way, is about the acknowledgment of his trauma, right,

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<v Speaker 7>him trying to work through it, the trials and tribulations

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<v Speaker 7>of that right, and and how how he ultimately deals

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<v Speaker 7>with it. Right not to give to not to give anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>That was pretty pretty esoteric, but you understand what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's a scene in the movie where he says

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just tired. I'm just tired and I'm sick. And

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<v Speaker 5>I wondered if he meant that physically or mentally or both.

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<v Speaker 5>And I also wondered, this would be my final question,

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<v Speaker 5>how that line applies to you, being that you've dealt

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<v Speaker 5>with so much publicly, because you know you're promoting the

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<v Speaker 5>movie so you can put on the brave phase and

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<v Speaker 5>you just got married, so you know you're happy and

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<v Speaker 5>in this moment, but I'm sure you had to get

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<v Speaker 5>mostly exhausted throughout this process.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, here's a moment of the subconscious coming to the

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<v Speaker 7>screen that that line, I'm tired, I'm tired. I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not in the script. Yeah, it's not in the script.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sick is in the script, but I'm tired, it's not,

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<v Speaker 7>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was.

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<v Speaker 7>So clear to me looking back now where my work.

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<v Speaker 7>My work was trying to signal to me, this is

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<v Speaker 7>where you're at, This is where you're at.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, how does that come out? I'm tired, I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>And I was, you know, I was a part of me,

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<v Speaker 7>not not the part that makes art or any of

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<v Speaker 7>that part, but the important part, you know, the self

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<v Speaker 7>was extremely tired. You know, you work hard, you do that.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, it's not it's not a matter of to

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<v Speaker 7>put out you know what I mean. I could put out.

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<v Speaker 7>I could do it, you know, and enjoyed it. But

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<v Speaker 7>there's other part is being so neglected, you know. And

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<v Speaker 7>because of the nature of the film, I try to

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<v Speaker 7>shoot every film like a documentary. I take extremely serious,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, extremely areas, you know, but I do. And

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<v Speaker 7>because of that, there's a small there's a small moment

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<v Speaker 7>where usually it's lines that I'll say there are marriage

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<v Speaker 7>between myself and the character, and that was one of them,

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<v Speaker 7>you know. So, yeah, I was tired, man, and killing

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<v Speaker 7>was tired. But oh I was tired that that part

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<v Speaker 7>of me that just you know, felt all that and

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<v Speaker 7>didn't process any of that. A nine year old boy

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<v Speaker 7>can't hold can't hold that shit, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>thirty five year old man can't hold it either, you know. So, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 7>you watched the hell of that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, listen, keep doing the work, my brother, Magazine Dreams

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<v Speaker 5>is in theaters right now. Go see it. Go check

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<v Speaker 5>it out. I can't wait to see all the think

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<v Speaker 5>pieces in the conversation. Oh bro, yeah, you know, and remember,

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<v Speaker 5>redemption is not perfection, my brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you. Man. If Jonathan Major, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club, wake that ass up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Breakfast Club