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Speaker 4: How are you, brother, morning, I'm doing good. I'm doing

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Speaker 4: I'm doing a lot better now, Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 3: And you're just officially tied to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: How does it feel that, you know, you finally lock

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Speaker 6: down your corrective.

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Speaker 3: Cup.

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Speaker 7: It's uh, it's beautiful, you know, it's uh, it's the

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Speaker 7: ending of a chapter, in the beginning of a chapter.

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Speaker 7: And I'm at a place where we got married on

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Speaker 7: the eighteenth. That was a couple of days ago, a

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Speaker 7: couple sleeps ago. And it happened when it happened, because

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Speaker 7: it won't be planning it. Yeah, but uh, I felt

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Speaker 1: Hold on black man. I felt worthy of her. It's

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Speaker 1: found that. Yeah, yeah it.

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Speaker 7: She is an incredible, incredible woman. And I had to

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Speaker 7: get to that level, you know, uh, spiritually, socially, emotionally,

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Speaker 7: I had to mature a lot.

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Speaker 4: And she.

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Speaker 7: Caught me at a time when I was in I

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Speaker 7: very upfront about that, and she said, all right, got

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Speaker 4: And the more.

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Speaker 7: I got to look at her, I was like, damn,

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Speaker 7: I love this woman, you know. And then when marriage

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Speaker 4: And then we did it. Yeah, yeah, and the journey continues,

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Speaker 4: you know, like like the marriage is happiest day of

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Speaker 5: He is, like, what type of work did you put

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Speaker 4: Had to get my mind right, you know. I had

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Speaker 7: I I never really dealt with, you know, and those

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Speaker 4: Even a relationship with.

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Speaker 4: I'm an actor. I appreciate the word you said. Man.

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Speaker 7: I trained for eleven years NonStop for acting summers whatever.

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Speaker 4: I'm an athlete.

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Speaker 7: I lifted, I ran, I did that, And every time

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Speaker 4: The same thing.

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Speaker 7: You know, I had eight different acting coaches, eight different

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Speaker 4: Just do the same thing for yourself. Brother, you know,

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Speaker 4: so I did you know the court helped me out

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Speaker 6: Uh uh.

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Speaker 7: And I love I love I actually love those guys,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I love that situation. I've

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Speaker 7: always talcome to my my therapist, you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 7: uh the peer counseling, you know when all this is

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Speaker 7: you know, I got yeah, oh man, I'm on my

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Speaker 7: last my last one, oh your last session, last one.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I'm gonna stick with it because I'm seeing

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Speaker 7: My my pastor, you know, Darius Daniels at Changed Church, incredible,

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Speaker 7: incredible man. You know, mentor friend life coach, you know,

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Speaker 7: my other personal therapist, the men's group I started, you know,

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Speaker 7: the business I started. You know, all these people that

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've just never been I've never been so happy,

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Speaker 7: And uh, it's hard to say, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: Never happy, you know that moments moments there, yeah.

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean saying oh you got jat wicked.

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Speaker 7: Oh you're doing this wicked. Oh you're doing that wicked.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: But there's a part of me all that, all that

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Speaker 7: I heard, all that trauma, all those things I needed

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Speaker 7: Now we got those out there. Now, we're getting those

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Speaker 4: And if you can't see it, you can't change it.

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Speaker 7: And so someone was thrown in my face and some

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Speaker 4: So that's the process before you.

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Speaker 8: Did you ever feel like through any of that, like

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Speaker 8: you were scared or nervous that like Megan would be like, Yo,

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Speaker 3: What was that like for you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? All the time.

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Speaker 7: Well, as I said, it's just like I told her

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Speaker 3: But when you're all in it and it's like the.

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Speaker 4: Press, Yeah, but we're like, I'm sorry now, I was.

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Speaker 8: Gonna say, because she's also a name, and so I

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Speaker 8: because people were like, Megan, good, why are you doing this?

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Speaker 4: Are Yeah? Yeah, I had a lot of that, you know,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, we're in a relationship, now, we're

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Speaker 7: had moments of like, hey, babe, it's cool, you know

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Speaker 7: what I mean. I love you more than I can imagine,

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Speaker 7: but you gotta you know, the ship's going down. You

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Speaker 7: You let go of me and you go get it.

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Speaker 7: That was a big thing, and she took so many

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Speaker 7: saying like, yeah, she wasn't in the they weren't announcing it,

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Speaker 7: but like she lost endorsements. You know, we got uninvited

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she took an incredible hit, you know, and then

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Speaker 6: And we asked her that when she was up here

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Speaker 6: as well, you know, like the same question that Lauren

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Speaker 7: She's stronger than me, you know, she's stronger than me.

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Speaker 7: You know, she kept me up. It continues to keep

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Speaker 7: me up. Before we walked in here, she was praying,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and now I understand the correta understand that I

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Speaker 6: do because even though you know it's a lot of

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Speaker 6: you know, you actually did a lot for me on stage.

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Speaker 6: I'm a comedian, so I used the jokes a lot. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 6: But hearing you talk about that, you know how she

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Speaker 6: prays with you, for you.

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Speaker 1: She flew to New.

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Speaker 6: York to sit there and you cried in her arms,

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Speaker 6: like you know, it just always. It just also shows

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Speaker 6: the backbone of black women can be you know, yeah,

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Speaker 6: d black woman, black black.

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Speaker 5: That's the only thing you can't say. You can't use

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Speaker 5: the term credit for a white woman. Yeah, do you

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Speaker 5: regret that? You know, I've seen people say you are

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Speaker 5: at a career crossroad with this film. Magazine Dreams, by

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Speaker 4: What you guys have seen.

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Speaker 4: You know though I was still hot.

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Speaker 5: Based off the yeah, based off I'm trying not to

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Thank you brother?

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Speaker 7: Like is it I've made so much more space, you

437
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 7: know what I mean? And it's like, ohwa's is it

438
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 7: gonna hit the same?

439
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 4: Like? I know the craft? I know that, you know.

440
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,719
Speaker 4: I don't know the craft, but I study the craft,

441
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 4: you know. I stay in it, you know.

442
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 7: And it's like, but it goes back to growth as

443
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 7: a human, growth as an artist, right right? Okay, so

444
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 7: the artist is the artist outgrew the outgrew the self,

445
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 7: outgrew me.

446
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 4: Right.

447
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 7: That led to chaos and hell right, but the work

448
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 7: was wicked, right, The work was good.

449
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: I just say wicked, But the work was good.

450
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 7: Right now, Now, what's gonna happen when the work that

451
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 7: I've done and I continue to do on myself now

452
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 7: it becomes worthy of the audience's the scripts, the stories

453
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 7: of characters I play. What's gonna happen to this guy?

454
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 4: You know what?

455
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 7: I mean, is he gonna I don't know what's gonna happen.

456
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 7: I will say this, I'm nervous, but I'm very excited,

457
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I'm very excited because like that,

458
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 7: I've got no you know, I don't got that, you

459
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So I'm like, cool, I got it.

460
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 7: Like I was thinking about you say bolt right, you

461
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 7: say both. I was listening to a podcast and they

462
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 7: were talking about you, saying about the fast my own

463
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 7: planet is the most jollyus man on the track.

464
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 4: He's funny, he's laughing, he's doing this thing. And then

465
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 4: he didn't. He's the fastest man on the planet.

466
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 7: And I go, oh, oh, that's the that's the vibe,

467
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 7: Like I can be serious about what I do. I

468
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 7: can I can apply my craft. I can really dog

469
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 7: myself in the craft. That's the game, you know what

470
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 7: I mean. If you want to make something for people,

471
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 7: m hmm. My opinion is I want to make something

472
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 7: for people that they understand. I care, right, I care

473
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 7: about If I'm playing a bodybuilder, I care about the

474
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 7: bodybuilding community. If I'm playing Jesse Brown, you know from devotion,

475
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 7: I care about his legacy, his family. I apply everything

476
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 7: I have into that, right, but you can.

477
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 4: Also laughing joker and have a good time, you know

478
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 4: what I mean.

479
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 7: And and like that part, that part, I didn't do

480
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 7: those things. You know. I was nice and jolly on

481
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 7: set and this and this, but there's a part of

482
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 7: me that just wouldn't allow myself to you know, I've

483
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 7: never seen a movie I made, you know what I mean,

484
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 7: you know it's playing the more the more, the more

485
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 7: I think about it, I think there was a part

486
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 7: of me that felt unworthy of being on the screen, well,

487
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 7: unworthy of of of like like that's that's I made

488
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 7: it for them, you know, like like you made that

489
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 7: art for the people, you struggle for the people, you know,

490
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 7: in the art form it's done now, you know. And

491
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 7: so I never I never got to close the loop

492
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 7: in a way, right, I never got to come back

493
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 7: to the to the community.

494
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 4: I never got to come back to the audience. You know.

495
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 7: I know they love the or they didn't love you know,

496
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 7: the character or the movie, but I never got to

497
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 7: stay connected to them. And that and that's really the

498
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 7: biggest part of this. I don't wanner sound like you

499
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 7: know this rebirth, that's a word. It's not my neck,

500
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 7: I can say it right this rebirth where it's like, oh,

501
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,239
Speaker 7: connection and help, that's the game, you know what I mean,

502
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 7: Connection and help and not just playing you know, the

503
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 7: movie star role and like getting trucks for the crew

504
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 7: and you know, send them flowers which all comes from

505
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 7: my heart.

506
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 4: I mean.

507
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 7: But then when they come and say thank you, I

508
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 7: couldn't receive it. I couldn't receive love, you see. I

509
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 7: could give it, yeah, I mean, but I couldn't receive it.

510
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 7: But then love that's been given and you're not receiving

511
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 7: is that is that love?

512
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

513
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: Like you know, rejection is a common theme with this film.

514
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what it sounds like you're describing now,

515
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 5: Like you're afraid of rejection. Like when Killian's boss says

516
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 5: to him, nobody knows you, nobody knows who you are

517
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 5: to me. It dismisses everything he wants, you know, the recognition,

518
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 5: the being seen, the magazine dreams, so to speak. So

519
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 5: how much does that moment increase, you know, Killian's demand

520
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 5: for respect and how how much did that hit home

521
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 5: for you?

522
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 4: Hm hmm.

523
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 7: I think in that moment in the in the picture

524
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 7: where he says that, you know, because he's on his

525
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 7: Killian is kill is always riding pretty idling, pretty high.

526
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there is, there is.

527
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 7: There is always a sense of like I am always

528
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 7: in the room when I'm acting. Right, there's the it's

529
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 7: the most here it comes. It is the most unsocialized,

530
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 7: the most pure version of myself that that I bring

531
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 7: into the art form. It's my nine year old self, right,

532
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 7: you know, and you know, as as as the article

533
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 7: speaks about in this and this, like you know, my

534
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 7: life changed a little bit now change a lot around

535
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 7: you know the ages of eight to like fourteen, you

536
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 7: know what I mean. And that's the kid that was

537
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 7: pure and honest and you know, worthy of love and

538
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 7: sunshine and playgrounds and all that stuff. You know, that's

539
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 7: where I'm operating from. But around that time, it's also

540
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 7: the time the thing shifted. And so when that man

541
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 7: says that to me, yeah, Killian has his brain going,

542
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 7: it's like, oh, you know, and he does what he does,

543
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 7: But there's also part of me that goes, you know,

544
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 7: my dad left at that time. You know, so you go,

545
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 7: that's that sensitivity part your work. We all have to

546
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 7: work from that child, right, with that child, right, and

547
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 7: so in that moment, you just let that child go

548
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 7: and he takes it. He hears it, and he responds.

549
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 7: So yeah, I definitely heard it with Killian's ears and

550
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 7: my ears, you know. And the response is the response

551
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 7: in the picture, you know.

552
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 4: So, yeah, you.

553
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 6: Said you never watch your work. You didn't watch the

554
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 6: love Craft Country?

555
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 7: Did I watch Lovecraft Country? I saw probably thirty five

556
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 7: minutes of Lovecraft Country. It's a ten hour it's a

557
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 7: two hour thing.

558
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, am I.

559
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: Seeing it four times? You ain't watch it?

560
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 4: Thank you bad thing?

561
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: You know.

562
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 4: And it's also twofold, right. It's also the fact that

563
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: I grew up in the theater. You know, I do theater.

564
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: I hope to do a little theater this year here

565
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 4: in the city. Yeah, I do theater. That's just not

566
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: a part of my upbringing, you know what I mean,

567
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: like like.

568
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 7: Watching Yeah, well not necessarily. Who also grew up on

569
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 7: the country, you know, in the country. You know, it's

570
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 7: like my entertainment was throwing you know, throwing glass bottles

571
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 7: at the at the trash thing, you know what I mean,

572
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 7: Like that's what we did, you know, or go hanging

573
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 7: out in the Creek, you know, byself, you know, like.

574
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: Just chilling, you know, outdoors, outdoors.

575
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 7: You know, and reading books, you know. And then when

576
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 7: I matriculated into the drama programs that I went to,

577
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't care what I look like.

578
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: I don't care what I mean, I care now you

579
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You know, I have a makeup

580
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: on It's crazy, uh, you know.

581
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: Never I never wore makeup.

582
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 7: I don't wear makeup in pictures, right, never wore makeup

583
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 7: in the movie, you know. But you know, it's a

584
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 7: new game now. And I was like, all right, cool,

585
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 7: I still have to say that it's.

586
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 4: Just not a part of my.

587
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 7: It's not part of my art lineage right to watch,

588
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 7: I think, you know, as I move into direct thing

589
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 7: when I'm producing things. Lovecraft Magazine Dreams is the first

590
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 7: film that I produced with my production company, Tall Street,

591
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 7: which is dope. If I wasn't in the picture as much,

592
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 7: I well, yeah, I definitely would have watched it, you know,

593
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 7: because because now it's a different part of the art form,

594
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 7: you know.

595
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 4: But as an actor, we don't. I don't. I don't

596
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: watch myself.

597
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 7: I think all the ale's out there in North Carolina

598
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 7: School the Arts, grass and actors just act.

599
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: There's you know who came up in the theater. Yeah

600
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: that is an that's a novel thing. Yeah.

601
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 7: We watch our auditions, you know, to make sure they're

602
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 7: wicked dope. But you don't watch, you know, to me,

603
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 7: it can get you in your head. I don't you know,

604
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 7: don't don't invite you know, criticism. You know, when it

605
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 7: comes to the art form, you know.

606
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: You'll probably break yourself down.

607
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, especially in the audition process. You know, definitely

608
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: the audition process.

609
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: When you talk about inviting things.

610
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 8: And I was sitting here thinking because I heard it

611
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 8: was two questions I had for you, just sitting listening

612
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 8: to you when you talk about the projects that you

613
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 8: have coming up. I thought about, like the fact that

614
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 8: right now you're on this press run. When you sat

615
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 8: down with CAVIU Frager and you said wifey, and then

616
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 8: the story came out about you guys being married, it

617
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 8: was like, oh my god, he's married. But then on

618
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 8: another hand, it was like he announced this because all

619
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 8: this other stuff came.

620
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: Out the Rolling Stone article with the audio.

621
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 8: You right now are working and moving, but I feel

622
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 8: like I don't even know it's not on purpose, but

623
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 8: there's so many things that are coming at you. How

624
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 8: are you dealing with all of that? Because being married

625
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 8: is that's a good moment. Being able to get back

626
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 8: to work is a good moment. But there's a lot

627
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 8: coming your way. What's the daily Like who I can

628
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 8: do this because you've done the work on yourself at

629
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 8: this point.

630
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 7: Amen, it's the work, you know, and it's God, you know.

631
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 7: And also like in our family, like we've been through it.

632
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 7: We've been through a lot in a short amount of time,

633
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like we are we're war

634
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 7: buddies and husband and wife you know, and best friends,

635
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 7: like but for real, for real war. But it's not

636
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 7: like oh yeah, no no, no, no, no, no, no no.

637
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 7: We've been through it, you know what I mean, and

638
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 7: we'll continue to go through it. But something that we

639
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 7: really talk about and something like we can't let like

640
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 7: we gotta live our life, you know what I.

641
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: Mean, Like, yes, everyone in this room, you know, it's in.

642
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 7: The public eye, right if I didn't do something that

643
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 7: I had planned, by the way, that I have planned.

644
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: Months ago, Because.

645
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 7: There's a there's a there's a we're having a bad

646
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 7: day you know, one of us are having a bad

647
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 7: day or or I'm having a really bad day. I

648
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 7: would not get up in the morning, you know what

649
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 7: I mean, I wouldn't get up in the morning.

650
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: So so who who's going to dictate my life? Who's

651
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: going to take my happiness? You know?

652
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 7: Well me and God, you know, and whatever wife people

653
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 7: is feeling that day. You know, like my mother this ring.

654
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: Because your mom, your mom married you.

655
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: Guys, my mother married this, right, And it was that

656
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: plan too.

657
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: Like that was originally that's how we went ever.

658
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 7: Plan right, Like in this my wedding ring is in grade.

659
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 7: It says my love of life. Right, this was engraved

660
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 7: six months ago. No, probably probably I wish she was here. Uh,

661
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 7: she's here somewhere.

662
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 6: She ain't gonna be mad that you don't notice, right,

663
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 6: Sugar Mayne A while ago.

664
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had done.

665
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 7: We had in April twenty four, but in Hawaii, you know,

666
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 7: after I spoke to her father and me had more chats.

667
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 7: I speke to father twice. Uh love you pop. Yeah,

668
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 7: and then we had to plan for you know, the

669
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 7: the movie you know, Tom and Briarcliffe was like, we're

670
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 7: doing this, man, if you feel ready to go out there.

671
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: You're gonna go out there? Right? What else am I

672
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: gonna do?

673
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 8: Because even that gets overshadowed because the way that when

674
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 8: people talk about this movie, it's like, oh, it's his

675
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 8: comeback after such and such.

676
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: But you've been working on this for years.

677
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but but it but it but

678
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 7: the comeback? Oh yes, so yeah, Mom was already coming, right, Tommy, we.

679
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: Already had our chat.

680
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: You know, Tom is Meghan's dad.

681
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, no, Uh, Tom is the owner of

682
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 7: Briarcliffe who's distributing my family right, Uh, mister good is

683
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 7: making us day.

684
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

685
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 7: So so yeah, we had already had it set up,

686
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 7: and my mother, who was a pastor or theay minister,

687
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 7: was coming out for the It was such a big

688
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 7: thing that that magazine Dreams was coming out and my

689
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 7: mother had not come to a premier. My sister had

690
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 7: come to a premier, my daughter had come to a premier.

691
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 7: Still got to get my brother out to one, but

692
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 7: my mother had not come to a premiere.

693
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: And so we had already planned.

694
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 7: Once we had the date, Okay, Mommy coming out on

695
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 7: this date, and then from that point we're like, all right, cool,

696
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 7: you're here, bring your stuff, bring your gear whatever, whatever,

697
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 7: you know, stuff you put on the married folks because

698
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 7: she also married my Wait did.

699
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: She marry all of us? Yeah?

700
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 7: My mother married my brother and she married my sister. Wow,

701
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 7: and now she married me and so yeah, that's that.

702
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 7: We not a tradition in the family. So there was

703
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 7: no question I was going to marry us, you know,

704
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 7: very intentional.

705
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 5: Do you have an idea of who is creating this

706
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 5: targeted attack, because let's be clear, I think it's a

707
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 5: targeted attack. I mean when I look at you know

708
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: you got to charge with mister mena assault and harassment.

709
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: We see you on video running away from this relation.

710
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: There's the optics of the big black man, you know,

711
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 5: white white, blondhaired woman. And it's like every time you're

712
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: about to do something right, like the Hollywood Report article

713
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: comes out, start hearing this good news about magazine Dreams,

714
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden it's audio.

715
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: Leaks and the audio is from twenty twenty two.

716
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 5: Come on, man, you gotta know that there's somebody targeting you.

717
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 5: Because everybody deserves redemption. That's people out here screaming for

718
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 5: other folks to get redemption that have done way worse.

719
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: I've been accused the way.

720
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: Work and have been granted. Yes, some guys.

721
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 7: I mean listen, let the streets talk, you know, let

722
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 7: the streets talk. You know, it's very again. I got

723
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 7: a whole wife to deal with, you know, I got

724
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 7: I got a bunch of dogs. I got a twelve

725
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 7: year old daughter I got to get to and spend

726
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 7: some time with, and you know, show us, show her

727
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 7: more stuff, you know what I mean.

728
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: Like, but you know that you could be getting granted

729
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 5: a lot more grades. I even think about like Marvel. Marvel,

730
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 5: you know, they had controversies with gods like Jeremy Renner

731
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: who plays Hotkeye, the guy who played Naymore, had some things,

732
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 5: but they were so quick to part ways with you.

733
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Jr. Was a lot of grades Like mm hmmm.

734
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

735
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 7: I mean you play the hanging, you know, and it's

736
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 7: not over till it's over, you know what I mean, Like,

737
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 7: it's not over till it's over. You know, there's just

738
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 7: this one thing I know. I love my wife, I

739
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 7: love my daughter, I love my family. I love this

740
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 7: art form, and I trust in God. And I know

741
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 7: for a fact what's in me right now? I mean

742
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 7: I'm on fire inside. You know, I'm on fire.

743
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: You know.

744
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 4: The next time I hit a set, I can't wait

745
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: to tell that story, to spend time with the crew,

746
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: to promote that film, to get out to the people,

747
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: to come see you guys again. And I have no

748
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 4: doubt in my mind. You know that it's going to happen.

749
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: I don't know when, you know, though, we have you know,

750
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: we have things in the works. But you know.

751
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: What those rumors about Marvel bringing King back true.

752
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 7: Man, here's the thing about Marvel, right, you don't know

753
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 7: until you know. You know what I mean, You don't

754
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 7: know until you know. I will say this though, of

755
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 7: all the characters I played, right, King carries a certain

756
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 7: novelty and a certain challenge for an actor that I

757
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 7: would I would, I would, I would. I would love

758
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 7: to play it again, you know. And so when I

759
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 7: hear people talk about it, as long as the streets

760
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 7: are talking, as long as the fans are talking, you

761
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 7: know there is a there's hope, you know, because look,

762
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 7: Disney is a Look we all grew up on Disney.

763
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe not, you know, but like they got us,

764
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 7: you know, they got us, you know, I mean, like

765
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 7: we're locked in we know. I love Disneyland. I love

766
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 7: Disney World. You know, Hercules, you know Robinhood. These are

767
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 7: things we grew up on, you know what I mean.

768
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: I love it. And when I was invited to the

769
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: Marvel universe to play you know, if all characters king

770
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: I loved it, I miss it.

771
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 7: I want to do it again. The role is incredible,

772
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 7: it is It is unique from any other role I've

773
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 7: ever played because of the the lexicon of characters that

774
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 7: this man, this character gets to play. I absolutely want

775
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 7: to do it again. You know, if there's a way,

776
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 7: I would love to be there. But you know, again,

777
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 7: that's in Guy's hands. That's in the hands of you know,

778
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 7: the the Disney Corporation and the shareholders and all of that.

779
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 7: And you know, we're in a divided world right now,

780
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 7: and so all at me.

781
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: I'm here.

782
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 8: You know, how was the letter that you wrote to

783
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 8: Marvel uh to Kevin? How was that letter received?

784
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 7: I don't know how it was received, you know, But

785
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 7: but you know, I've got his info. I know it's him,

786
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, And I sent it to him,

787
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 7: you know, and he's a he's in I'm sure he

788
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 7: was in a tough position when I sent it to him.

789
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 7: It was it was long after a lot of this stuff.

790
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 7: You know, Yeah, I really liked I really I love

791
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 7: that man, you know that, that that specific individual. I

792
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 7: really love him. You know, I've got nothing but love

793
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 7: for Marvel. But yeah, you know, uh yeah, you know

794
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 7: I didn't hear back.

795
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 5: You know, but I treated you like Brad van Dorn.

796
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 5: You gotta watch the movie magazine.

797
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: Uh, that's good.

798
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 5: I want to ask you about that because it was

799
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 5: such a one sided relationship with Brad. Vand horn between

800
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 5: Killian and Brad in the movie, and you know, you

801
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 5: kept writing them these letters and he thinks he has

802
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 5: a connection with Brad.

803
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: It's almost like how fans.

804
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 5: Feel today, like they have a simple access to celebrities

805
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 5: that they don't actually have, but social media makes them

806
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 5: feel like they do. Have you ever had a Chillian

807
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 5: in your life? Did you out here with your shirt

808
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 5: off all the time?

809
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: Yes?

810
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, yes, yes, yes.

811
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 7: It's a delic of balance, like being a public figure

812
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 7: right as we all are in this room, you know,

813
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 7: or even just be spoiler alert, everybody's a public figure

814
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 7: if you have an Instagram is out there, you know

815
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 7: what I mean. So like it's all about being kind,

816
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 7: you know, Like, yeah, I've dealt with that multiple times,

817
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 7: you know.

818
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: And it's like.

819
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 7: You have to set boundaries, you know, and you have

820
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 7: to be kind, but you also have to understand that

821
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 7: these individuals are also the individuals that allow you, that

822
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 7: prop you up to be this public figure, as it were.

823
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 7: So it's a delicate balance, you know. However, you know,

824
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 7: everybody just understand boundaries, Like you know, I understand like

825
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 7: even if I know you, you know what I mean,

826
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 7: Like you and me, if I text you, bro and

827
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 7: you don't text me back, I'm not coming to the studio.

828
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not coming to the studio.

829
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 7: Like it's your boy hit me back, like two days later,

830
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 7: urgent Negro hit me back. And if you don't hit

831
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 7: me back, and then I would go around the other way,

832
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 7: be like, hey call this man, see what's going on.

833
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not showed up to your house, you

834
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 4: know what I mean, I'm not doing that, you know.

835
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: But that's because I have boundaries.

836
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 7: You have balance, you know what I mean. I respect you,

837
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 7: you respect me, you know. So yeah, I've dealt with that.

838
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 7: And how much do you owe to the fan, the

839
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 7: fan or the fans.

840
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 5: Fans, Yes, I ge I guess I said fan in

841
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 5: this particular situation.

842
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 7: In that in that regardless, Here's thing, you know, I

843
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 7: think every everybody's different. But I love my fans. I

844
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 7: love them even more now, you know what I mean.

845
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 7: I think that anything you asked me to do, you know,

846
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 7: within reason, I'm gonna do it. Like I'm gonna do it.

847
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 7: I don't mind. You know, I'm just built like that though,

848
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like we're a team. I

849
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 7: understand that.

850
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: You you know what I mean.

851
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 7: And I also understand like like yeah, I got fans,

852
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 7: but like I'm not so and so and so and so.

853
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 7: You know what I mean, I'm not you know, Timothy Shallow,

854
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 7: may you know what I mean.

855
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: Where it's like that's just.

856
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: Wow, you know what I mean. Like like I'm me,

857
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 4: you know.

858
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 7: And I've got my demographic, I've got my team, I've

859
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 7: got my Marble.

860
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: Fans, my Creed fans.

861
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 7: By this fan, I love them, you know what I mean,

862
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 7: I love them. You know if they step over the line,

863
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 7: that's why you got scaredy, you know what I mean?

864
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 6: You know what made uh, how did Zeus Network become

865
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 6: the home for magazine dreams.

866
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 7: That's a beautiful story. That's a beautiful story. So I

867
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 7: just got done doing Hollywood Unlocked. Our brother and friend,

868
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 7: Jason Lee. Yeah, well up Jason Lee.

869
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: I'm coming, bro, don't trip, I'm coming. So thanks thanks.

870
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, Jason Lee reached out to uh, to us

871
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 7: and was like, hey man, we want to do this.

872
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 7: He took a he took a he took a shot

873
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 7: with us, and we did the We did the award show,

874
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 7: and then we found out. I found out through the

875
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 7: award show that Lemmy as Zeus was kind of like

876
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 7: operating the whole thing, you know, like he was sponsoring

877
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 7: the whole thing, you know, supporting the whole thing. We

878
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 7: had a beautiful night, you know, a very healing night

879
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 7: that night for the family, which is and for myself especially,

880
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 7: And then time goes along and I get a phone call.

881
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 7: This is after Bridcliffe had already picked it up. You know,

882
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 7: it is what it is. You know, like people have

883
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 7: their opinions, they go, hey, yeah, I don't want to

884
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 7: I don't want to help anymore. You know, we lose

885
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 7: the money, and then you know a certain amount of

886
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 7: the money. Right, Tom holds steady, as he always does,

887
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 7: but you know, we lose the money a certain portion

888
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 7: of it and we need it or the film's not

889
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 7: coming out, you know, like just not coming out. And

890
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 7: I literally got on the phone, you know, baby, was like, hey,

891
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 7: you know, what do you think we should do.

892
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know what you think we should do.

893
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 4: We put a list together. We're like, you know, ah, no, yes, yes, yes, yes.

894
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: That happened.

895
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 7: And then I had a meeting with Jason, Me and

896
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 7: Jason and his buddy Robert. We just sat and chatted

897
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 7: and he said, yeah, you know, I got an idea.

898
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 7: Let me run it by you. He said, yeah, you

899
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 7: should hit him. So we hit Lemmy right. I called

900
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 7: Lemmy directly, literally big shout out to Lemmy and Zeus.

901
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 7: I called Lemmy. The meeting was at nine am. I

902
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 7: called Lemmy at twelve. When I got back to the

903
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 7: house after training. We sat there, I texted me, text

904
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 7: me back. I told him what the game was. He said,

905
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 7: I'm in. He hadn't seen the movie. He said, I'm in.

906
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 7: I got you, brother, right mm hmm. When he was transferred,

907
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 7: deal was done.

908
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: Wow, like that that's what I like to hear.

909
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 5: That's God when somebody tell you I'm in and then

910
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 5: they put their money in their.

911
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 4: Mouth in sight unseen, Wow, site unseen. I got you,

912
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: I got you, you know.

913
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 7: So I mean big ups to Zeus network and let

914
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 7: me and all his team, all his soldiers, Like that's

915
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 7: a he's the real deal. And we need that it

916
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 7: within the culture, you know, I mean, like we need

917
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 7: someone that's gonna go. I'm betting on you, you know,

918
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm betting on us, deon Taylor. We need

919
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 7: that look yeah you know, of course, yeah, yeah, I'm tripping,

920
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 7: I'm tripping together.

921
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

922
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 8: But even the awards show that moment because the wors

923
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 8: Show happened and then the meeting would let me happen

924
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 8: like the Worst Show moment.

925
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: I think it went so viral.

926
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 8: I mean, you were very emotional when people got to

927
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 8: see that, but it was like publicly the first time

928
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 8: after everything that some of them was like really taking

929
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 8: a major chance behind you, like this person deserves to

930
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 8: be able to come back and say his piece or whatever.

931
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 3: That alone.

932
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 8: Like when Jason first called you for that award, how

933
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 8: did you feel like, we're you kind of hesitant?

934
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 7: Where you so much trauma, you know, so much trauma

935
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 7: when he called, I was like, I mean, I was

936
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 7: so small at that time, you know, inside, you know,

937
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 7: I was just like I was just starting with my

938
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 7: you know, avengers of therapists and pastors, you know what

939
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 7: I mean. So I was still working a lot of

940
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 7: things out. And when he called, I was like, man,

941
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 7: that ain't gonna happen. You know, like you get the

942
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 7: first of Doorphin hit the dopaminion, like, yeah, okay, cool,

943
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 7: cool cool, But no, that's not gonna happen. They're gonna

944
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 7: let they are not gonna let you do that, you.

945
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

946
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 7: And yeah, but even Jason, even Jason was getting caught.

947
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 7: I mean, he had resistance, right, he had resistance, and

948
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 7: he's listening and he knows what I'm talking about. I'm

949
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 7: not gonna put his business in the street. He had resistance.

950
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 7: But Jason Lee said, hey, I'm gonna get this done.

951
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 4: Bro, I got you. I'm gonna get this done, you know.

952
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 7: And I go, all right, bro, you know, we have calls,

953
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 7: everybody's on the call, we write the speech. Speech is like, well,

954
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 7: you know, the speech ain't gonna work. You know, I

955
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 7: ain't gonna come up.

956
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: You know.

957
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 7: It was crazy, but Jason was I believe in him.

958
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 7: I believe in this, We're gonna do it, and he

959
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 7: did it, and he did it, you.

960
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: Know, and bring him his visit into it.

961
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: That was everything?

962
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 3: Was that?

963
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 8: What was the planning around that that? How early did

964
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 8: that happen or did she say hey, I want to

965
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 8: be involved.

966
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 7: I can't speak to that in super detail, but I

967
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 7: do know that Jason, Jason had a real conversation with her,

968
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 7: and she understood the situation, believed in redemption, believed in

969
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 7: you know, helping, you know what I mean. And she

970
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 7: came and she did it, and she she did it.

971
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 7: I felt that, you know, I felt that, and I'm

972
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 7: so grateful to her, you know, I love it.

973
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: Imagine. Question, how have your views on Hollywood chance?

974
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 5: Because you said that you're not Timothy Sharlow made, but

975
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 5: Hollywood was setting you up to be that next gold boy,

976
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 5: Like they all acted like they loved you before the scandal,

977
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 5: and as soon as there was some smoke, it was off.

978
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: You do you take that personal?

979
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 7: Two years of reflection, you get to sit back and

980
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 7: just kind of go, Okay, what's the game, you know

981
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 7: what I mean? Because let's be honest, like if anybody

982
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 7: doesn't think that it's an industry. It's an industry, you

983
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 7: know what I mean, And money is involved, and I

984
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 7: don't know's it's anyone in Hollywood, anyone in the entertainment

985
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 7: understands that, Like, yeah, this is a town. It's a

986
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 7: town that goes up and down, up and down. You're

987
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 7: hot your coat, you're this shit that, you're.

988
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 4: This shoor that. But to be you know, in such

989
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 4: a position, you know, with.

990
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 7: So many allies, friends, studios, all of it, you know

991
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 7: what I mean, Like it's all there, you know, and

992
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 7: then to watch it go. It was just a very

993
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 7: clear understanding that this is a business. I mean, And

994
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 7: there are some personal things where I go that hurt,

995
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 7: that hurt me, you know what I mean, That hurt

996
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 7: my bank account, that hurt me, you know what I mean?

997
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 7: Does it change my perspective? I was always talent forward.

998
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 7: I was always talent forward. I want to make sure

999
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 7: that I'm doing the best I can in the role

1000
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 7: I'm doing, and like that that's all that mattered to me,

1001
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 7: you know. But I saw more, you know, in tandem.

1002
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 7: You know, when I'm looking at what's happening, what was

1003
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 7: happening with Meghan or you know the amount of pressure

1004
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 7: and heat and shame that was trying to be thrown

1005
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 7: on people who did stick with me. You know, my agent,

1006
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 7: Along Ruthfully, he's a dog man. He stayed man, he

1007
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 7: fought for me. I just love him. You know, he's

1008
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 7: my brother. You know, he is my brother. You know,

1009
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 7: Along Ruthfully, I love you, man. But when I saw

1010
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 7: what he had to deal with, It's like, damn, that's crazy,

1011
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like, I don't I don't

1012
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 7: want that in the industry at the whole was like, look,

1013
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 7: the entry changes so quickly. You know, I am optimistic,

1014
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 7: you know, I can't stunt and be like blah blah blah.

1015
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 7: But I'm a realist and I.

1016
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: Go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that hurt, you know.

1017
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 7: What I mean, doesn't change my respective. I knew it

1018
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 7: was always a game. You know, I'm cool to saying

1019
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 7: that before that's the game.

1020
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 4: You know.

1021
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 5: I remember, Lauren, you probably know, but I remember there

1022
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 5: was an article that came out and it was just

1023
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 5: a bunch of different people, you know, saying you were

1024
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 5: emotionally abusive to that, you know, verbally abusive and you

1025
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 5: know it works you before and it wasn't a pleasant

1026
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 5: experience when that came out. Did you ever look at

1027
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 5: any of that stuff and say, Okay, some of that

1028
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 5: might be justified.

1029
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: I might have been an asshole in that situation.

1030
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: That article.

1031
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: You know, they were talking about from college days, So

1032
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: you're not the same man.

1033
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, well there there's there's some hmm. How did

1034
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 7: it come at this one? Everybody's entiled to their opinion. Yeah,

1035
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 7: I watched this as far as I'm just gonna I'm

1036
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 7: just gonna stay some facts about school, school and this

1037
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 7: with no kind of school, the arts, and I also

1038
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 7: went to Yale.

1039
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 4: It was a Yale. I was on a full scholarship.

1040
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: We all were.

1041
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 7: I was also on a Lloyd Richards scholarship. Our brother,

1042
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 7: Lord Richard's brought in August Woolson Camp all that stuff. Beautiful, beautiful,

1043
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 7: beautiful man, rest in peace. I was recipient of that.

1044
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 7: When that information happened, When that when that, when that

1045
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 7: started being said, that's when I went, that's what that's

1046
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 7: That was hard because I go, this is Yale University.

1047
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 7: Where's the write up if all of this is true,

1048
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 7: where's the write up from my administration, from my dean?

1049
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 7: Where is it that was the only thing in which

1050
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 7: I got involved because it was supposed to be family, right.

1051
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 7: I got involved and went show me, show me, show

1052
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 7: me a paperwork. I not my lawyer. I hit my

1053
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 7: dean and said show me, said no, there's nothing there.

1054
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 7: I step up the email.

1055
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Do I still wear my

1056
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 4: yell cap? Yeah?

1057
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 7: Because I went there. You know my class. You know

1058
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 7: I love them. I love them and I understand. I understand.

1059
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 7: I don't agree with it, but I understand. You know,

1060
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 7: in all off.

1061
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 6: Record, hmm, what went through your mind when Michael Illy

1062
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 6: had picked up Megan. I want to see you. I

1063
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 6: want to see you answer that one. I want to

1064
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 6: see what did this happen?

1065
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:57,479
Speaker 4: In the movie?

1066
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 8: Was going to carpet, remember, and Michael he came up

1067
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 8: and said hello to Megan and the clip that they

1068
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 8: had online he picked her up the clip they had online.

1069
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 8: You were just standing there and people say, y'all. I

1070
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 8: know he was salty, but there was the part of

1071
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 8: you all shaking hands before too.

1072
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 7: Oh.

1073
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 4: I remember this. I remember. I remember. I love that

1074
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 4: pretty man. Look at him pretty lifting up my wife.

1075
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 4: It's all good. No, no, no, that's my brother, that's my brother.

1076
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

1077
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 7: Wife, they have they have they have a beautiful friendship,

1078
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 7: they have all these things, you know, like and and respectfully,

1079
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 7: because like, we have real life, and then we have

1080
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 7: what everyone says about our real life. Right and and

1081
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 7: as you all know, we have to navigate between those

1082
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 7: two things.

1083
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 4: Right.

1084
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 7: If the things people say about our life actually make

1085
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 7: their way into our lives, then the people have to

1086
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 7: be mature enough to address it.

1087
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 4: And brother Eli, who.

1088
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 7: I've seen many times, we did a workshop together at

1089
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 7: Dion's place. Michael was like, hey, bro, my bad.

1090
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? And I was like, respect

1091
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 4: respect I was like.

1092
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: This man trained for Creed. All of them blows. Michael's

1093
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: it's all love.

1094
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: I have a question about the movie.

1095
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 8: Uh So, in magazine Dreams, your relationship with your father

1096
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 8: is insane because of the thing that him and your

1097
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 8: mom and I don't want to give it away. Yeah,

1098
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 8: with your father, but in real life too, you talk

1099
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 8: about your dad leaving your life, and you know some

1100
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 8: of the things you dealt with after that. Channeling your

1101
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 8: real relationship with your dad and then bringing it onto screen,

1102
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 8: what did you pull from specifically and what did you

1103
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 8: purposely say? I don't want to pull from this because

1104
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 8: I don't want to revisit that.

1105
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 7: If it's in there, right, if it's in there and

1106
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 7: it's it's conscious, you know.

1107
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 4: That's the job, right.

1108
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 7: You got to use it, I use I mean, we can,

1109
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 7: we can, We'll get We'll get to Magazine Dreams with

1110
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 7: Michael Kay Williams, who actually played my father right in

1111
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 7: My brother my brother Okay, whimas you played my father

1112
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 7: in Lovecraft. He was dealing with it all day, right,

1113
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 7: I was thinking about my daddy issues all day, right,

1114
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 7: because they were just right on top of each other

1115
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 7: right in in Magazine Dreams.

1116
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, same thing.

1117
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 7: You know you you you go, okay, you like this,

1118
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 7: I like this. Cool that that's something that we say,

1119
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 7: Oh you get that for nothing, right, You get that

1120
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 7: for nothing right? And in your work you go, okay, cool,

1121
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 7: this man is in love with this woman.

1122
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 4: Cool.

1123
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 7: I know what that is. I'm in love with my woman. Boo, Okay,

1124
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 7: I get that for nothing right. And the details and

1125
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 7: the specificity of that relationship are drawn out through the

1126
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 7: actual characterization and and the world that we're in. But

1127
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 7: I just want, I just want to be clear it's

1128
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 7: you're talking about like, because because Dad's not in the movie.

1129
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 4: No, it's I just want to make sure.

1130
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: Your grandfather.

1131
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 6: But I had to look upway.

1132
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 8: That's why it's hard for me to ask the question

1133
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 8: because you got to get so much set up with it.

1134
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 8: But I was basically asking because it's such a messed

1135
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 8: up situation that you're taking care of your papa. And

1136
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 8: then and then in real life you talk about your

1137
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 8: dad and him leaving you and your mom, like I've

1138
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 8: heard you talk about that a couple of times.

1139
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: And then your mom came to to see this movie.

1140
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 8: And I know mom had to be like, you know

1141
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 8: that there's some trauma probably with her too that came

1142
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 8: back in.

1143
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 7: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, uh, every time you

1144
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 7: have to touch something, you kind of want to make

1145
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 7: it connect, you know what I mean, You want to

1146
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 7: make it connect. And and you know, my father, my

1147
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 7: biological father, my dad. You know, I don't want to

1148
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 7: hurt him, right, but I love him, you know, but

1149
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 7: but we experienced something that could have been avoided had

1150
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 7: he not done what he's done, you know what I mean,

1151
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 7: done what he did. Come on, yeah, yeah, thank you, brother,

1152
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So, so there's that, and

1153
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 7: so you because what we're talking about is to share

1154
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 7: trauma right between Killian understands and what happened to him

1155
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 7: in his world and what I understand what happened to

1156
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 7: be in my world, and.

1157
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: That that.

1158
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 7: The visceral abandonment, if that makes sense. It's something that

1159
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 7: I can always connect to and it's something that I've experienced,

1160
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 7: something a Killian Achillian does experience. And so in that

1161
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 7: in that monologum right where we're going through it. Yeah,

1162
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 7: obviously the images of of of my father, you know who.

1163
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 7: Let me be very clear, I love my dad, you know,

1164
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 7: I love him, you know, for the man he is,

1165
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 7: you know, but it is what it is, you know

1166
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 7: what I mean, And it's it's up to him.

1167
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 4: To fix that. You I mean, I understand that.

1168
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 7: You know, you make a mistake, It's up to you

1169
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 7: to fix it. You know something wrong with you, It's

1170
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 7: up to you to fix it. So you know, standing

1171
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 7: by dad, standing by no.

1172
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 5: I'll tell you something, man, when when you when once

1173
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 5: you if you actually and I don't know if you have,

1174
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 5: but when you actually have converse with your father and

1175
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 5: he tells you about his upbringing yep, his childhood and

1176
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 5: the things he went through I guarantee you'll end up

1177
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 5: giving them more grace because I remember my father telling

1178
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 5: me that he went to therapy two and three times

1179
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 5: a week and he was on ten to twelve different

1180
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 5: medications for his various mental health issue and he tried.

1181
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: To commit suicide back in the day.

1182
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 5: When I when he told me that, it just it

1183
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 5: just allowed me to give him so.

1184
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,479
Speaker 1: Much more grace.

1185
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 5: And I think sometimes we forget our parents had a

1186
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 5: life before they were for our parents.

1187
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: And currently has lives while they were our past, you

1188
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1189
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 7: So like and we all know, like bring a child

1190
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 7: into bro thank you, Like like I completely agree with that,

1191
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 7: you know, and and and I'm all my way to that.

1192
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: At that place.

1193
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 7: It's just but it's just that like this is this

1194
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 7: is the rebirth, this is the new this is the

1195
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 7: this is.

1196
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 4: The new bop, you know.

1197
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 7: Like like my big brother says to me, hey dog,

1198
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 7: you know and straight up I've heard that before, right,

1199
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 7: but like O Megan said it to me before, you know.

1200
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 7: And it's just like he speaks to my brother, he

1201
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 7: speaks to my mom, he speaks to my sister, you

1202
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 7: know what I mean. I'm just the eldest son you know,

1203
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 7: the southern eldest son. That may mean something some of

1204
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 7: the listeners. Right, that's different, you know what I mean,

1205
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 7: And it's like it's a different thing. But but then

1206
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 7: it's not right like that chat, that's something else, right,

1207
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 7: you speaking from your hurt there right, hearing you now right,

1208
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 7: you helped me.

1209
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, damn, you're right.

1210
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 5: Because you know it makes me think about the character

1211
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 5: Killian right when you're watching the film, the angry black

1212
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 5: man persona, whatever you want to say it is. It's

1213
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 5: all justified, you know, being the way he lost his parents,

1214
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 5: with his grandfather's going through you know all of that.

1215
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 5: But your trauma is not your fault, but your healing

1216
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 5: is your response to responsibility. And I think by the

1217
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 5: end of the movie that's what he learns. That's what

1218
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 5: I wish I would have You would have explored a

1219
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 5: little bit more because we solve the problems.

1220
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: But where was this.

1221
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna watch the I mean, I promise this you

1222
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 7: were gonna let us take time to watch the last

1223
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 7: three minutes of the picture at some point together.

1224
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: And wait, we gotta stop talking about this. This is

1225
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 4: a spoiler.

1226
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 6: Something you know, watch a movie, because listen, he is.

1227
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 6: He really watched he's been talking about this is yesterday.

1228
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: Look, he'd be up.

1229
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 6: Here in line and everybody listening to the albums before

1230
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 6: we come in here.

1231
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: He told them, little people, I watched the show, did.

1232
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 4: Not did not watch the show.

1233
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 6: He watched this movie, called me yo, you need to

1234
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 6: watch Yo.

1235
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: This is this is great, this is greatest role ever.

1236
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: And I'm like this. How you know he is in

1237
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: here expounding love.

1238
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 1: That's what just told me when I said you should

1239
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: watch magadthe Drink. I will, but let me finish watching Tyler.

1240
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: Perry Jay go ahead.

1241
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 6: I was paid to do here on the movie because

1242
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 6: you know I'll be doing reviews.

1243
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: Look, Magazine Dreams is one of the best movies. Just

1244
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: to watch the brother. We love our brother. I get.

1245
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: I get.

1246
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 8: I have another question about your dad. Has he seen

1247
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 8: this movie? Do y'all talk often? Has he seen the movie?

1248
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 4: D though little text here here and there? You know

1249
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 4: what I mean, like, uh, I need to FaceTime him

1250
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 4: with his uh new daughter in law.

1251
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: They always got a new.

1252
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 7: Gotta do that. But no, he's not. He's not seen it.

1253
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 7: I mean I did, didn't see my link or anything.

1254
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 7: But look, I know my dad, like.

1255
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: He didn't hit you after the interview that you did

1256
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: and where you talked about the.

1257
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 7: I mean, but that's the thing, like I should probably

1258
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 7: holler at him. I will, I'll give him a shot.

1259
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 7: I tabled it, well, tabled the best I could. You

1260
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 7: really did with my mother beforehand.

1261
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: So before that article came out.

1262
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I had to had to, you know what

1263
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 7: I mean? And I and I tabled it a little

1264
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 7: bit with my sister. I need to table it with

1265
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 7: my father because you know, it's a lot, you know.

1266
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 7: I mean, like somebody was discussing with you know, some

1267
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 7: of your colleagues, journalistic colleagues, you know, when you are

1268
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 7: when we are quote unquote public figures, like your healing

1269
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 7: has to happen.

1270
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 4: Publicly, does it?

1271
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 7: No? No, no, that's a question mark. Now, the question

1272
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 7: mark that doesn't happen publicly, you don't like, Like, that's.

1273
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 8: Why I was wondering why you chose to reveal that

1274
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 8: right now, because you have so much other stuff happening.

1275
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well in.

1276
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 8: Bringing your dad into and I have to cut you off.

1277
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 8: But I thought it was I thought it was very

1278
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 8: vulnerable of you. But I don't know if I would

1279
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 8: have had the courage to do that right now in

1280
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 8: your life because you're moving past so much stuff because

1281
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 8: you you you not blame your dad, but you if

1282
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 8: your dad was there, you felt like you would have

1283
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 8: been protected. And that's heavy for everybody in the situation,

1284
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 8: your mom and your mama. You said, your mom apologized

1285
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 8: to you after that for not being there to protect you.

1286
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 8: So it's heavy for everybody. And then it just stirs

1287
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 8: up so much more stuff.

1288
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 4: Well here's things. You don't stir it up, Something's gonna happen,

1289
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like like I it had

1290
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: to be done right.

1291
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 7: It's funny because in the in the interview we were

1292
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 7: talking and because of the work that I was doing,

1293
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 7: you know, quote unquote behind the scenes when we got there.

1294
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 7: It's just I had been talking about it, you know,

1295
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 7: and with my family, with with with Megan. I've been

1296
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 7: talking about it with my my counselors, you know, and

1297
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 7: my therapist. You know, it was there and it would

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Speaker 7: have been inauthentic in that moment, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 7: for me not to touch it, you know what I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Would have done myself a disservice, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And was it brave or this or this or this. No,

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't see it that way, you know. I saw

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01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 7: it as when your pain outweighs no, when your needs

1305
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 7: for healing, your needs for healing outweighs your pain, right,

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01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 7: you will heal.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: And in that moment, the healing was right there, the

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01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 7: pain was right here, right, but the need to heal

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Speaker 7: was greater. And I said, I gotta I gotta say this,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean. We talked about fans.

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Speaker 4: We talked about people who people who just.

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01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 7: Admire someone right, admire me, Holy, if you're gonna do

1314
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 7: that all of me, you know what I mean, I'm

1315
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 7: not afraid to show it to you. Hate me, right,

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01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 7: but hate all of me? You know, I'm not playing

1317
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Speaker 7: that game.

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Speaker 5: But a fan can't do that because he doesn't know

1319
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 5: he or she doesn't know you in your whole totality.

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Speaker 7: They only know what but they think they do, they

1321
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 7: think they do and and and there's no gimmick. I

1322
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 7: don't want to if there's a fan of mine who's

1323
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 7: experienced anything that I've experienced in my life. Right, my

1324
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 7: job is my missions as an actor and artist and

1325
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Speaker 7: a human being is to like, let me help you,

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Speaker 7: let me help you carry your cross. Right, that's what

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01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 7: you guys are doing for me right now. You are

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Speaker 7: helping me bear my cross. Right, And got that from

1329
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 7: my brother Will right as well as what's all about job?

1330
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 7: Our job is only to help someone bear their cross.

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01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 7: We can't bear it for them, but we can be

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01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 7: there for them.

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Speaker 4: Right. He said that to me. I went, oh, I

1334
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 4: understand that. So if you're a fan, right, if.

1335
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 7: You know me and you've experienced something like that, and

1336
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 7: you see that, Okay, this has happened to him, and

1337
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 7: this has happened to me, and he's doing this, it's

1338
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 7: not impossible. A lot of a lot of the comeback,

1339
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 7: a lot of the rebirth feels impossible because nobody has

1340
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 7: ever attempted it before. You know what I mean. No

1341
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 7: one's ever had the allies. I don't want to get

1342
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 7: you in trouble, but no one's ever gotten the allies

1343
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 7: with the friends, the support or the you know, I

1344
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 7: want to demonstrate that, you know what I mean.

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01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 5: But you see, here's the thing. You don't throw your

1346
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 5: people away like you don't. You don't you don't look

1347
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,479
Speaker 5: at the person to say, man, I'm not I'm gonna

1348
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 5: reduce them to their worst moment. Like I knew you

1349
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 5: before this. We worked on the project together Audible.

1350
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Speaker 4: It apparently in the finals for some.

1351
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 5: They got nominated for an AUDI for Best Drama. But

1352
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 5: it's just like, Okay, he had a situation. Listen, we

1353
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 5: assessed the situation. We look at the situation, we see

1354
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 5: who the situation is.

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Speaker 1: Is he not? Is he not?

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01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 6: He?

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Speaker 5: Is he not above redemption? And the redemption isn't for everybody?

1358
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 5: Like we always have to talk about cancel culture, but

1359
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 5: what about redemption culture? You just cast him to the side,

1360
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 5: say him for the rest of his life. Nah, I

1361
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 5: don't agree with that.

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01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 4: Well, obviously you don't.

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01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: I saw you running down the screen from a white woman.

1364
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: I saw it running from running for his life from Okay.

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01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: All the training you needed to do for Free three

1366
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: was in that moment. Listen. There was a movie.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you I saw it.

1368
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: It was a movie.

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 6: It's called The Actor Who Got Chased Around the City.

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01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 6: And yes, it was laughing because we on two B too.

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Speaker 3: Now I know what you talk about.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Okay, So this is a movie. The director brilliant,

1373
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 6: Alvin Gray. I don't know if you've seen. It's a

1374
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Speaker 6: good movie. It's called The Actor who was Chased around

1375
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Speaker 6: the City. He actually was gonna name it the Actor

1376
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 6: who was Chased around the City by the white woman,

1377
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 6: but he choose to Yeah, it was too long.

1378
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 3: You need to watch it and it's good.

1379
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 6: Yes, you know, might trigger you or not because no, no, no,

1380
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 6: because the redemption for him is in the movie and

1381
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 6: I just gave it away.

1382
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: But you need to watch it.

1383
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 9: Yes, from Baltimore, he makes films based on controversial I'm sorry,

1384
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 9: it's just a real movie.

1385
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: To be that gid. It's a real movie. Yes, yes,

1386
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: she said, you gotta rap you. I really got two

1387
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: more questions. You know. I want people to go watch

1388
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: Magazine Dreams and when you're.

1389
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 5: Watching it, I wondered if Killian's character is so frightening

1390
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 5: because of how real it is, because we all know men,

1391
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 5: especially black men, who suffer from untreated mental health issues,

1392
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 5: and with him being so obsessed with bodybuilding a way

1393
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 5: just to run from his trauma.

1394
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeap it so.

1395
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 7: It covers it, right, It covers it, but it also

1396
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 7: releases it right. But there is the there is so

1397
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 7: much there that he can't he can't get out so

1398
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 7: he's searching for validation.

1399
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 4: Right.

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 7: I wonder what would happen to Killian if if someone

1401
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 7: just wow, if someone just spotted him. Hm, if someone

1402
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 7: just saw this man lifted all this way and came

1403
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 7: and helped him lift it, maybe that would change everything,

1404
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Maybe there wouldn't be a

1405
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 7: Killian Maddox had he had some type of connection, some

1406
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 7: type of love, you know what I mean, Like.

1407
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 4: He's brought that. The whole movie, in.

1408
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 7: A way, is about the acknowledgment of his trauma, right,

1409
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 7: him trying to work through it, the trials and tribulations

1410
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 7: of that right, and and how how he ultimately deals

1411
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 7: with it. Right not to give to not to give anything?

1412
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: Right?

1413
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 7: That was pretty pretty esoteric, but you understand what I mean.

1414
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah.

1415
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 5: And there's a scene in the movie where he says

1416
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 5: I'm just tired. I'm just tired and I'm sick. And

1417
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 5: I wondered if he meant that physically or mentally or both.

1418
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 5: And I also wondered, this would be my final question,

1419
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 5: how that line applies to you, being that you've dealt

1420
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 5: with so much publicly, because you know you're promoting the

1421
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 5: movie so you can put on the brave phase and

1422
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 5: you just got married, so you know you're happy and

1423
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 5: in this moment, but I'm sure you had to get

1424
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 5: mostly exhausted throughout this process.

1425
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 7: Well, here's a moment of the subconscious coming to the

1426
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 7: screen that that line, I'm tired, I'm tired. I'm tired.

1427
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 7: It's not in the script. Yeah, it's not in the script.

1428
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 7: I'm sick is in the script, but I'm tired, it's not,

1429
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 7: you know.

1430
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 4: So I was.

1431
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 7: So clear to me looking back now where my work.

1432
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 7: My work was trying to signal to me, this is

1433
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 7: where you're at, This is where you're at.

1434
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 4: You know, how does that come out? I'm tired, I'm tired.

1435
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: You know?

1436
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 7: And I was, you know, I was a part of me,

1437
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 7: not not the part that makes art or any of

1438
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 7: that part, but the important part, you know, the self

1439
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 7: was extremely tired. You know, you work hard, you do that.

1440
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's not it's not a matter of to

1441
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 7: put out you know what I mean. I could put out.

1442
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 7: I could do it, you know, and enjoyed it. But

1443
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 7: there's other part is being so neglected, you know. And

1444
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 7: because of the nature of the film, I try to

1445
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 7: shoot every film like a documentary. I take extremely serious,

1446
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 7: you know, extremely areas, you know, but I do. And

1447
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 7: because of that, there's a small there's a small moment

1448
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 7: where usually it's lines that I'll say there are marriage

1449
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 7: between myself and the character, and that was one of them,

1450
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 7: you know. So, yeah, I was tired, man, and killing

1451
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 7: was tired. But oh I was tired that that part

1452
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 7: of me that just you know, felt all that and

1453
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 7: didn't process any of that. A nine year old boy

1454
01:09:55,680 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 7: can't hold can't hold that shit, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1455
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 7: thirty five year old man can't hold it either, you know. So, yeah, man,

1456
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 7: you watched the hell of that movie.

1457
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed it.

1458
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 5: Man, listen, keep doing the work, my brother, Magazine Dreams

1459
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 5: is in theaters right now. Go see it. Go check

1460
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 5: it out. I can't wait to see all the think

1461
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 5: pieces in the conversation. Oh bro, yeah, you know, and remember,

1462
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 5: redemption is not perfection, my brother.

1463
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: Good to see you. Man. If Jonathan Major, it's the

1464
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, wake that ass up in the morning.

1465
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 4: Breakfast Club