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Speaker 2: on the Giants little podcast you've done in every year

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Speaker 2: the last three or four years. It's a lot easier

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Speaker 2: with the Giants picking like seventh, not as easy this year.

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Speaker 2: We got to go all the way to twenty five

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Speaker 2: and we are going to start at the top of

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Speaker 2: the draft with the Carolina Panthers, who traded a lot

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Speaker 2: of capital to get here, to get exactly the player

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Speaker 2: they want and to talk about what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Is David Newton, who covers the Panthers for ESPN. David,

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Speaker 2: thanks a lot for joining us today. I know the

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Speaker 2: Panthers are thinking quarterback here, get a little deeper. What

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Speaker 2: are their options and what are they thinking?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's bright young at this point. I

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Speaker 3: have a shot at Bryce Shung because they know that

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Speaker 3: Texans had their.

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Speaker 3: And they were also comfortable with two options that they

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Speaker 3: I know initially c J. Stroud got a lot of

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Speaker 3: I guess a lot of energy there and as far

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Speaker 3: and his history of having quarterbacks in the sixth three

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Speaker 3: and taller range. But when you look at the big picture,

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Speaker 3: I mean Young kind of checks all the boxes beside height,

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Speaker 3: and you got to start with his leadership and then

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Speaker 3: go to his ability to process. I talked to Nick

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Speaker 3: his ability to process was off the charts and something

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Speaker 3: I keep going back to early in the process. And

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Speaker 3: this was over at the Combine when asked Scott bitter

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Speaker 4: He said, you know, he's just chill.

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Speaker 3: Nothing's too big for him. And when when he said that,

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Speaker 3: it was almost like, Wow, he's not said anything quite

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Speaker 3: that complimentary about drought or Lavish or anybody else. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they look at all four quarterbacks that were I guess

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Speaker 3: But those guys that only if they traded back they

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Speaker 2: I believe, Hey, look, I think it's very simply David.

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Speaker 2: His tape is the best and he was the best

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Speaker 2: player at that position last year at college football. And

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Speaker 2: I guess the only thing I'll ask you as a

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Speaker 2: concerns about long term ability to stay on the field

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Speaker 2: because of his not just hype, but his his weight

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Speaker 2: by the fact that Pandas have a pretty good offensive

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there was concern, and there is concern, But

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Speaker 3: sure but four or five three quarterbacks that have had

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Speaker 3: shortened careers. I mean they can even go back to

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Speaker 3: Cam Newton here. I mean he didn't have a ten

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Speaker 3: he did run the ball a lot. I think the

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Speaker 4: So that really kind of stood out for me.

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Speaker 2: David, Awesome, We appreciate the time. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: David Newton from ESPN. Bryce Young to the Panthers Number one. David,

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank a lot, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, now we're going to turn our attention to

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Speaker 2: pick number two and John Harris, who works for the

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Speaker 2: Texans down there, Texans Radio, Texans Website, everything they do

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Speaker 2: end of that call, John, and you're probably not thrilled

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts Texans needs and now your thought

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Speaker 6: I'm very mad.

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Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers, I'll start there. I'm very mad at Rodney

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Speaker 7: Thomas as the Colts for not catching interception on fourth down.

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Speaker 7: Let's see what else? What else am I mad.

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Speaker 8: At this particular point.

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Speaker 7: I'm getting it. I'm getting it all out. You know,

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Speaker 7: Thursday night's gonna be really interesting. You know, we got

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Speaker 7: our draft party out at mill Arthourth Theater, which is

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Speaker 7: this great spot here in Houston, and I'll be doing

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Speaker 7: live radio for like sixteen seventeen hours all throughout the

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Speaker 7: draft and whenever the Texans invariable so you know what

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Speaker 7: something where the fans aren't totally sure. It's like I

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Speaker 7: catch the brunt of all this. It's like they come

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Speaker 7: did it, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, welcome to my world, John, Welcome to my world.

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Speaker 2: We we have not had a lot of success the

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So so I get I get the

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Speaker 7: I think fans are getting a little bit better about it.

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Speaker 7: They're like what are they thinking? It's not like what

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Speaker 7: we've been we've been team mysterious, seemingly like the last

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Speaker 7: uh with with all of that, but it's pretty clear.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you guys saw it up in East Rutherford

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Speaker 7: So it was time to get a quarterback. But but look,

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Speaker 2: Well, John, let me just ask it as really quick

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Speaker 2: we want to be quick here. If they don't go quarterback,

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Speaker 7: No, I mean absolutely, okay, I mean you would think

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Speaker 7: I think fans have come around to that, but I

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Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be a really and they don't

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Speaker 2: All Right, so who do you have the Texans picking

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Speaker 2: at number two in our draft? Here? John?

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Speaker 7: And there should could and Mike I think Mike Wilson

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Speaker 7: That's where I'm gonna go to. The team needs a quarterback.

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Speaker 7: They need somebody to step in that role to take

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Speaker 7: Texans are getting their own dimes. In the Forum OFTHJ

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Speaker 2: John. Awesome stuff, my friend. I always enjoy catching up

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Speaker 2: with you at the combine at the Senior ball Good

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Speaker 2: seeing you as always, and let's talk again soon, all right, Bud,

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Speaker 2: good lucky for draft night.

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Speaker 7: Yeah brother, you too, Man. We'll talk to you soon. John,

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Speaker 7: take care of all right.

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Speaker 2: Now, we're gonna go out to Arizona and say at

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Speaker 2: another friend of the show, Darren Urban, he covers the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals for the team side, Darren, John Schmelke, you're in

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Speaker 2: in terms of players are looking at and perhaps even

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I think if this is the way

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Speaker 9: of expect it to go. With the two quarterbacks going

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Speaker 9: They're absolutely thinking about trading down. This is a roster

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Speaker 9: If these are the two quarterbacks to go first, you

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Speaker 9: would think Anthony Richardson's kind of the lynchpin here. Does

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Speaker 10: If the Colts really want that.

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Speaker 9: Quarterback or the third quarterback and they're worried about the

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Speaker 9: Cardinals trading out to somebody else, that could end up

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Speaker 9: being the best case scenario for the Cardinals. They get

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Speaker 9: an extra pick or two maybe, and then they just

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Speaker 9: swap with the Colts at four and still get the

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Speaker 9: best defensive player on the board.

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Speaker 10: But we'll see how it plays out.

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Speaker 9: If the Cardinals end up staying at three. I'm just

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Speaker 9: Will Anderson, the edge rusher at Alabama, because they absolutely

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Speaker 9: seems to be the best player on the board.

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Speaker 9: Trade if we're talking about other guys that might go high.

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Speaker 9: If the Cardinals move out of three. I mean Tyree Wilson,

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Speaker 9: And that's a position the Cardinals need. Could they go

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Speaker 10: I think they're going to leave that open.

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Speaker 9: But again, because there are so many teams within the

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Speaker 2: Darren, good talk to you, my friend. Good luck at

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Speaker 2: the draft. And hey, look, the Cardinals are picking third.

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Speaker 2: You guys are gonna walk away with a good player.

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Speaker 2: It should be a good night, man. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, Darren.

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Speaker 2: Urban Cardinals team site. Now we go to pick number four.

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Speaker 2: Representing the Indianapolis Colts is Zach Keefer. He covers them

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Speaker 2: for the Athletic All right, Zach, it's been chucky, so

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Speaker 2: you should be ready to roll here. Bryce Young won

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Speaker 6: I think the Colts liked this spot. I think they

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Speaker 6: not a lot of There's not a lot of chance

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Speaker 6: that happens at four. They're just happy because the Cardinals

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Speaker 6: going to go with Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson over Kentucky

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Speaker 4: And the bet is not just on Richardson.

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Speaker 6: The bet is on Shane Sdyke in the first year coach.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna be patient with him, They're willing to live

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Speaker 6: the chances is on Richardson, and I think it's worth it.

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Speaker 2: All right, two quick follow ups, very quickly, Richardson, are

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Speaker 2: we talking sitting him for a year. Are they going

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Speaker 2: to try to, you know, mold this system to take

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Speaker 2: How do you think they're going to handle his development?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so they're willing to sit him, They really are.

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Speaker 2: It's smart.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And.

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Speaker 6: This is a long term play.

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Speaker 11: This is not This is not.

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Speaker 6: this is a long term play. And Jim we're saying,

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Speaker 2: I think that's smart. Then the second question is how

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's very real. That's very real. I don't think

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Speaker 6: the Cardinals, if they do trade, will trade until Draft Knight. Right,

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Speaker 6: Why why would they make a move now? Why don't

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Speaker 6: one and two and tries to jump them. The Colts

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Speaker 6: seem to play defense, right, They need to block out

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Speaker 11: On that position.

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Speaker 6: This is not a time where you can sit back

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Speaker 6: You might have to give the Cardinals a fourth or

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Speaker 6: you can get your guy. Because Levis and Richardson are

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Speaker 11: To move up to three.

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Speaker 2: Zach, great stuff, my friend. Enjoy the draft. It should

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Speaker 2: be fun, all right, thank you?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 2: We thank Zach Kiefer from the Athletic He slucks Anthony

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Speaker 2: Richardson to the Indianapolis Colts. Now Richardson, Will Anderson, CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 2: number five. That's the Seattle Seahawks. They have two picks

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Speaker 2: our next guest to pick number twenty for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: He is Bob Candata. He covers the Seahawks for the

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Speaker 2: Seattle Times. Bob John Schmelk Here, he's Rutherford. Your opinion

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Speaker 2: and what are you thinking here? If you're the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think they're probably going to go defense.

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Speaker 11: They really need to remake the defense.

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Speaker 1: And if Jalen Carter is there, I think they'll have

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Speaker 1: really interesting, interesting decision. Obviously, he's sort of the real uh,

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Speaker 11: But he's exactly what Seattle needs.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 11: Pete Carroll said after the season they really.

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Speaker 1: Needed to become more dynamic up front with their defensive line.

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Speaker 1: They've let a few veteran defensive linemen go during free agency,

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Speaker 11: You know, having gone to the three four with those three.

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Speaker 1: Those three interior defensive linemen. So I think Carter this

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Speaker 2: Not Jalen Carter. And we'll get your official pick in

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Speaker 2: a second. Who are some of the other players you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the quarterback thing is really interesting. They obviously made

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Speaker 1: It's hard to know. It's hard to know on that.

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Speaker 11: But you know, if either.

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Speaker 11: With the rest of the draft.

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Speaker 2: So a pick number five the Seattle Seahawks select.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna go with Jalen Carter.

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Speaker 1: I just think for the reasons I stated this, sort

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Speaker 2: Bob we appreciate the time. We'll talk to you.

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Speaker 11: Pick twenty Okay, thanks.

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Speaker 2: We thank Bob Candatta from the Seattle Times for joining us.

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Speaker 2: So pretty chalky off the top of or Bryce Young,

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Speaker 8: Here, you know, right here, you're obviously looking at any

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Speaker 8: he's going to be getting forty five to fifty million

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Speaker 8: dollars a year, and that sort of upsets the Apple

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Speaker 8: card on what all you can pay some other guys.

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Speaker 8: You know, Piney Soule's going to need to get paid.

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Speaker 8: I'm on Russeint Brown. A lot of the young talent

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Speaker 8: on the team is approaching the time where they're gonna

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Speaker 8: need their second contracts. They're paying Jared goff that much money,

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Speaker 8: you can't afford to pay all those guys. So they're

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Speaker 8: certillly going to look at it. And by the way,

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Speaker 8: they're only backup quarterback right now on the roster is

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Speaker 8: Nate Feld, who was basically available off the street whenever

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Speaker 8: anybody wanted him.

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Speaker 13: So they certainly have to add.

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Speaker 8: Any quarterback at some point. I'm just not sold that

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Speaker 8: it's going to be at number six.

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Speaker 2: Right now, all right, Jeff, and tell us why.

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Speaker 8: I am going to take Illinois cornerback Devon Witherspoon. I

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Speaker 8: think he's a fantastic fit for what the Lions want

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Speaker 8: to do. He played incredible and press man coverage. The

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Speaker 8: Lions play more press man coverage on the outside than

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Speaker 8: any other football team by a fairly wide margin. On

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Speaker 8: defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn. He's got that dog in him

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Speaker 8: there looking for that. They haven't had really the alpha

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Speaker 8: dog cornerback since they traded away Darius Slay mistakenly a

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Speaker 8: couple of years ago to Philadelphia. They've been looking to

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Speaker 8: replace him ever since. Jeff o'cuda wasn't the answer. I

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Speaker 8: think Devon Witherspoon, who, by the way, is the exact

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Speaker 8: same size as Darell Reeves was when he came out

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Speaker 8: of pit. I think he fits the bill. It checks

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Speaker 8: pretty much every box you can want for the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when they're Baron Glenn sees himself in the

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Speaker 2: mirror a little bit too when he takes a look

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Speaker 2: at Devin Witherspoon at a corner that he is. Jeff,

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Speaker 2: good stuff. We'll talk to you later in the first round.

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Speaker 13: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We thank Jeff Risden again from the Lions wire and

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Speaker 2: draft Wire for making that pick Devin Witherspoon cornerback out

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Speaker 2: of Illinois to the Lions. Now the Raiders are up

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Speaker 2: a team that I think Vic Tafer from the athletic

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Speaker 2: needs some defense here or are you thinking quarterback? Give

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Speaker 2: me kind of the player pool that you're thinking about

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Speaker 2: in this scenario for the Las Vegas Raiders at number.

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Speaker 13: Seven, I think this is the way it plays out.

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Speaker 13: I think I'd probably trade down. I think a team

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Speaker 13: I probably moves off and get little Levis. I don't

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Speaker 13: think he's our guy. We need defense, like you said, so,

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Speaker 13: I think we trade down, get some more picks, just defense.

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Speaker 2: That way, would there be a consideration at some point

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Speaker 2: to trade up if maybe a specific quarterback. Can you

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Speaker 2: tell me if there is a specific one that the

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Speaker 2: Raiders do value higher in the draft.

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Speaker 13: I do think if if Stroud fellows three, I could

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Speaker 13: see they're making some calls and I'd be the guy

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Speaker 13: that want to or Bright I think won't draft. But

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Speaker 13: I think if Strad all three, that might be a guy.

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Speaker 13: Even though even then I think there's still the price

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Speaker 13: fights too high to pay. They have so many needs

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Speaker 13: and defense and around the roster, trading multiple picks for

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Speaker 13: a higher for higher pick may not be the best

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Speaker 13: way to go.

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Speaker 2: Where do you think of the most dire needs on

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Speaker 2: defense right now?

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Speaker 13: I think cornerback. I think a lot of Wispol just went,

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Speaker 13: and I think Christian kinsalaes the other guy like a

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Speaker 13: lot Joey Pooners some great cornerbacks in this draft. I

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Speaker 13: think they also need help at linebacker and also in

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Speaker 13: the middle of the front, at d tackle, pretty much

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Speaker 13: everywhere on defense.

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Speaker 2: All right, So this sounds like a best player available

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Speaker 2: situation for you. VIC make the pick the Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: Raiders at seventh overall, and our giant subtle reporter mock

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Speaker 2: draft select that.

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Speaker 13: Goes Christiani Gonzales the cornerback out of Oregon. He's a

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Speaker 13: big time player maker has all those the trades you

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Speaker 13: want and skill size, and I think he's a good player.

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Speaker 2: Vic awesome. We appreciate the time, my friend. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you down the road and enjoy the draft.

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Speaker 13: All right, man Tinker.

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Speaker 2: We think Vic Taper from the Athletic for making that pick.

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Speaker 2: For the Las Vegas Raiders, they select Christian Gonzales, cornerback

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Speaker 2: out of Oregon. Now we head east and south to

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Speaker 2: the one and only de Orlando. Lead Battery covers the

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Speaker 2: Falcons for the Atlanta Journal Constitution d Falcons here at

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Speaker 2: number eight, second year of a new regime. What's the

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Speaker 2: player pool or positions that you think the Falcons are

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Speaker 2: looking for here at number eight?

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Speaker 14: They're looking in the trenchets. They've done a rebuild there

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Speaker 14: on both sides of the ball. And you know, at

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Speaker 14: the number eight pick, you know they went with off

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Speaker 14: offensive weapons the last.

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Speaker 10: Two years, so you know this year we're.

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Speaker 14: Thinking, you know, they're gonna go big, either D line

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Speaker 14: or offensive line.

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Speaker 2: We just had two cornerbacks go off the board. Would

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Speaker 2: that be a perhaps an option for them here as well?

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Speaker 14: No, I don't think so they're they're gonna they didn't

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Speaker 14: like this quarterback class that much once you get outside

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Speaker 14: the first two, and they took one last year and

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Speaker 14: they're ready to what they can do with Desna Ritter.

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Speaker 2: How about cornerback on defense?

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Speaker 14: On defense, you know two just went Gonzalez and Weatherspoon.

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Speaker 14: Those are the top two guys. They think you can

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Speaker 14: get a cornerback later in this draft. There's some quality

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Speaker 14: at that position, so I don't think the third quarterback

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Speaker 14: would be in play at this point.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's look at the trenches for the

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Speaker 2: eighth overall picking our Giants Huttle Reporters mock draft of

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. De Orlando Ledbetter selects.

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Speaker 14: Peter Skoronski, offensive tackle, Northwestern, the guy with the short

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Speaker 14: arms who might have to play some guard here in

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Speaker 14: the in the National Football League. But he's the best

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Speaker 14: lineman in the draft, and he's there for you're taking

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Speaker 14: at number eight.

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Speaker 10: The South could have.

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Speaker 14: A big hole at left guard. You can step right

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Speaker 14: in there and then maybe bounced back out to tackle.

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Speaker 14: When Jake Matthews get playing well.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons are to run the ball. There's a help

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Speaker 2: him do it. Do We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 14: Thanks so much, no problem, thanks a lot, Thank care.

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Speaker 2: We thank de Orlando Ledbetter from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Again.

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Speaker 2: Peter Scaranski, guard tackle combo player from Northwestern goes to

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. We head to the NFC North. Now

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Speaker 2: we're joined by a front of the program. Tom's Thayer.

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Speaker 2: He's the radio analyst for a Bears radio and he

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Speaker 2: will be making the Bears selection at number nine. They

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Speaker 2: of course have this pick because they traded out of

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Speaker 2: that number one spot with the Carolina Panthers for a

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Speaker 2: slew of draft capital. Tom, give me a feel here.

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Speaker 2: What are the Bears looking for in terms of needs

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Speaker 2: and player pool that they'll be choosing from when this

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Speaker 2: selection arrives here at number nine.

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Speaker 5: You know, it seems like both ends of the liners,

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Speaker 5: both sides of the line of scrimmage, excuse me, are

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Speaker 5: the main priority, and they are looking at the talented

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Speaker 5: offensive tackle like you mentioned Peter Skoransky on his way out,

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Speaker 5: but Darnell right out of Tennessee. I think he has

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Speaker 5: great versatility, a lot of experience, and one thing a

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Speaker 5: guy like that could do for an offensive line coach

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Speaker 5: is he can probably plug and play where you need

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Speaker 5: him most. If Braxton Jones continues to evolve at a

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Speaker 5: left tackle early in his career, they could probably keep

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Speaker 5: him there and put him in the most comfortable position.

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Speaker 5: Then maybe right can move over to right tackle. So

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Speaker 5: I do think it's a matter of where they're uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, where they need help the most, and who's there.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I like Scarantia, I like Jalen Carter and then forgive me,

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Speaker 5: I don't know his name? Is the outside pass rusher

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Speaker 5: for Texas Tech?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Tyre Wilson.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I think he would be an interesting candidate also,

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Speaker 5: But you know, on the edges of the lines is

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Speaker 5: the number one priority that's tackle positioned. Outside rusher is

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Speaker 5: the number one priority for the Bears.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I got to imagine just you know, helping Justin Fields, right,

596
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Speaker 2: because he got all this extra draft capital, you probably

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Speaker 2: want to know if Fields is your guy by the

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Speaker 2: end of this year, so if you have to, you

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Speaker 2: can address it in next year's draft.

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Speaker 5: Correct, correct, But you know one thing you want to

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Speaker 5: do for Justin is put the best offensive line in

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Speaker 5: one hundred opportunity give him an opportunity to play on

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Speaker 5: the lead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with you. Tom all Right, With the ninth overall

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Speaker 2: pick in the Giants Huddle Beer Reporter Mock Draft, Tom Thayer,

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Speaker 2: representing the Chicago Bears, selects.

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Speaker 5: Darnell right offensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Wow, And I guess my question for you on right

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Speaker 2: because he playing right tackle at Tennessee he was much

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Speaker 2: better than he was on the left side. And you

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Speaker 2: mentioned the Bear's gonna have a young left tackle in place.

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Speaker 2: Is his experience on the right side really will guide

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Speaker 2: you in his direction for this particular pick.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Bears wet and sign Nate Davis is a

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Speaker 5: free agent from the Tennessee Titans, and the best thing

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Speaker 5: he can do to a rookie offensive tackle on the

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Speaker 5: right side is put an experience right guard next to him,

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Speaker 5: And I think that will help him along with Cole Kamet,

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Speaker 5: the the good blocking tight end that they have from

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame, that's you know, starting to come into his own.

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Speaker 5: So experience on each side of a young right cackle

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Speaker 5: could help the offensive line immeasurably.

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Speaker 2: And obviously, you know you know a lot about offensive

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Speaker 2: line play. You like right better than you do the tackles.

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Speaker 2: Paris Paris Campbell, Paris Johnson, part of me at Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: Wrong Paris coming out of Ohio State there, and Roderick

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Speaker 2: Jones auted Georgia. You think Right's a better fit for

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Speaker 2: what the Bears want to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just because Chris Morgan, the offensive line coach, she

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Speaker 5: really had a challenge last year of trying to put

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Speaker 5: together an offensive line of just guys out with their versatility.

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Speaker 5: And I do think that's Right could give the Bears

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Speaker 5: a little bit of offensive tackle versatility, and he does

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Speaker 5: have some experience playing offensive guard, but that would not

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Speaker 5: be their first priority.

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Speaker 13: No.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, very good player, Tom. We appreciate the time, Thanks.

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Speaker 5: So much, Thank you good thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: We thank Tom Thayer. With our first big surprise of

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Speaker 2: our mock draft, Donald Wright, right tackle out of Tennessee

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Speaker 2: to the Chicago Bears. They do need to improve that

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Speaker 2: offensive line. Now we go to division rival the Philadelphia Eagle,

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Speaker 2: coming off a Super Bowl appearance and front of the

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Speaker 2: program Dave Spararro joins us from the Eagles team site

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Speaker 2: to make their selection. Dave, first, let's start here. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you guys are dealing with an embarrassment of riches here

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Speaker 2: to be selecting tenth overall in this draft. So what's

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Speaker 2: your player pool, what are you thinking? What are your

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Speaker 2: goals here for the tenth overall pick.

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Speaker 4: Yo, First of all, I want to see what the

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Speaker 4: market bears.

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Speaker 8: Okay, what is on the board.

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Speaker 4: Would a team trade up to this spot? And the

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Speaker 4: thinking there is that John, the Eagles have six picks,

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Speaker 4: and I think that ultimately with picks ten to thirty

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Speaker 4: in round one, they'd like to parlay some of that

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Speaker 4: strength into multiple draft picks. So that's my first thought.

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Speaker 4: But for the purpose of this, I'm gonna say there's

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Speaker 4: nobody that's going to trade up for the Eagles give

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Speaker 4: up as Spock becus. They've got Tyree Wilson sitting on

661
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Speaker 4: the board here. The Eagles build from the lineup, scrimmage out.

662
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Speaker 4: They are a team that loves to rush the quarterback

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Speaker 4: with multiple waves of pass rushers.

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Speaker 10: So if it is all pay.

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Speaker 4: Plays out the way that we have it here, that's

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Speaker 4: a name that probably is just too.

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Speaker 2: Good to pass up fair enough, and I think both

668
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Speaker 2: of us would probably be surprised if he was there

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Speaker 2: on draft night. We'll see. Is defensive line you think

670
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Speaker 2: more of a priority than offensive line at this point?

671
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Speaker 2: You know you drafted Cam Jurgens last year, you have

672
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Speaker 2: Lane Johnson who just signed that one year extension. You

673
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Speaker 2: lost Samalu. Could offensive line be an option year too?

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Speaker 2: You think it's more of a defensive front type of look.

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, offensive line is an option here. I do

676
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Speaker 4: think they have Cam Jurgens, who was their second round

677
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Speaker 4: pick last year, who could slide over across trained from

678
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Speaker 4: center to guard. You know, they've got Jack Driscoll who's

679
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Speaker 4: had some starts at right guard, and they've got the

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Speaker 4: thirtieth pick in the draft. Now, they've signed Johnson to

681
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Speaker 4: the extension. They've got long term deal in place on

682
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Speaker 4: the left side with Jordan Malatta, landed Dickers into somebody.

683
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Speaker 4: Ultimately they will sign if he stays healthy, to a

684
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Speaker 4: long term deal. Jason Kelce a one year deal with

685
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Speaker 4: Jurgens in I think you can address the offensive line

686
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Speaker 4: at some point, and I think it is a consideration here,

687
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Speaker 4: But I think at ten you're looking to take a

688
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Speaker 4: tackle and converting him to guard. I'm not sure that's

689
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Speaker 4: the value that you really want at number ten.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. And then the question I'll ask

691
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Speaker 2: you here, Dave, before I have you make your pick,

692
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Speaker 2: and we just talked to a former executive for you guys,

693
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Speaker 2: TJ McGray on Our Giants Little Podcast. He did a

694
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Speaker 2: great job and he said, look, he knows Alie is

695
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Speaker 2: not in the first round running back camp, but he

696
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Speaker 2: thinks it might be a little bit different with a

697
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Speaker 2: guy like Bjeon Robinson. When or if would the Eagles

698
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Speaker 2: think about him maybe in a trade down with a

699
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Speaker 2: first round pick this year? If at all?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think, look, you're adding with him

701
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Speaker 4: with Gibbs potentially a Christian McCaffery type player who's got

702
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Speaker 4: that multiple skills, right, So it's not just a quote

703
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Speaker 4: unquote running back. And I know the Eagles loved Christian

704
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: McCaffrey a few years ago, so I do not put

705
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Speaker 4: it past the Eagles. I think the definition of insanity

706
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: is repeating things over and over and over, and I

707
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: don't think how he does that. So, and Jeffrey Loriie

708
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Speaker 4: speaks very highly of how offenses are so important in

709
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: the NFL. It is an offensive league. If you have

710
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Speaker 4: a chance to add a weapon like that, probably not

711
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Speaker 4: a ten. But again, if you move down and a

712
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Speaker 4: guy like Bijon Robinson is there at sixteen and you've

713
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Speaker 4: looked at your board, and he's one of your top

714
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Speaker 4: two or three players on your board, don't you have

715
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Speaker 4: to go by your board. I mean it's something that

716
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Speaker 4: you really must consider. First round. For Allie Boyd that

717
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Speaker 4: would be something, but at some point early in the draft. Absolutely,

718
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Speaker 4: So it's a consideration. He's an extraordinary prospect. But it

719
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Speaker 4: just speaks to the way the offensive you know, the

720
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Speaker 4: running back position has been reevaluated in the NFL, and

721
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Speaker 4: that's unfortunate. I think, Look, the Giants are happy they've

722
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Speaker 4: gotten Sakuon Barkley and he's been healthy and how critical

723
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Speaker 4: he was last year to their success, and when he's

724
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Speaker 4: been on the field, he's been absolutely fantastic. If you

725
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Speaker 4: can get five years out of a great running back,

726
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Speaker 4: that's pretty darn good. So it's a consideration, but not

727
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Speaker 4: a ten.

728
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll tell you Dave as an opponent, just

729
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Speaker 2: imagining trying to stop that running game with that offensive

730
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Speaker 2: line and hurt some Jon Robbinson, that is a nightmare

731
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Speaker 2: scenario for other teams in the NIB.

732
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Speaker 4: And also move him as a receiver. Yeah, that makes

733
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Speaker 4: it even more dangerous.

734
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, all right. With the Eagles first pick

735
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Speaker 2: in the first round, Dave Bidarro selects.

736
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Speaker 4: That's it. I think the Eagles will go with Texas

737
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Speaker 4: Tech edge rusher Tyree Wilson. Philadelphia led the league in

738
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Speaker 4: quarterback sacks last season, dominated the Giants and the forty

739
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Speaker 4: nine ers in the NFC playoffs, and then didn't get

740
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Speaker 4: to Patrick Mahomes once in the Super Bowl, and what

741
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: happened The defense couldn't get off the field. So, in

742
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Speaker 4: a league where you just can't add enough pass rushers,

743
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Speaker 4: with Brandon Graham aging and here on a one year deal,

744
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Speaker 4: somebody as dynamic as Wilson six six, two seventy one,

745
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Speaker 4: great production at Texas Tech, he would be very difficult

746
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Speaker 4: to pass up. And in fact, if he's there at ten,

747
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Speaker 4: the Eagles will not pass him up.

748
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Speaker 2: Dave, good stuff. We appreciate it. We'll talk to you

749
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Speaker 2: very soon.

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Speaker 10: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: All right, And now we're joining Paul Koharski. He covers

752
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Speaker 2: the Titans balt First, let's tell the people where they

753
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Speaker 2: can find your stuff.

754
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Speaker 5: Dot com out of Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 10: Appreciate it.

756
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Speaker 2: Now, no problem, he's been covering them for a while.

757
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Speaker 2: We just said, Tyree Wilson go off the board. Lasted

758
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Speaker 2: longer than people thought of the Eagles, and Dave Spadaro,

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Speaker 2: we thank him for joining us. All right, Paul, you

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Speaker 2: got the Titans here at number eleven. First of all,

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Speaker 2: any thoughts to making a phone call before your pick

762
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Speaker 2: came up here to maybe do a trade up?

763
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Speaker 5: I think for the ideal they don't have enough draft

764
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Speaker 5: picks here for the holes that they have found themselves

765
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Speaker 5: at salary cap Trouble cut a lot of people, and look,

766
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Speaker 5: some of them were non productive, but Dupree wasn't worth

767
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Speaker 5: the with the money, so I just got a deal

768
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Speaker 5: in Atlanta. Taylor Lawan's knee is a big question mark,

769
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Speaker 5: but first and foremost they need a foundational lift tackle

770
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Speaker 5: at eleven who they signed from Philadelphia, who you know,

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Speaker 5: just kind of got swallowed up there as a former

772
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Speaker 5: first rounder. So Skarronski is the guy I would have

773
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Speaker 5: had an eye out here because I think he's the

774
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Speaker 5: best and most technically sound of these offensive linemen. But

775
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Speaker 5: I see somebody beat me to the punch there, so

776
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Speaker 5: I gotta take the guy I like second best out

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Speaker 5: of the offensive lineman. I wish there was a better

778
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Speaker 5: wide receiver to take as the first wide receiver here,

779
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Speaker 5: because that's the other huge necessity for the Titans.

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Speaker 10: But I think Paris.

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Speaker 5: Johnson, the way this board is falling, is the best

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Speaker 5: choice for the Titans.

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Speaker 2: Did you consider Roger Jones out of Georgia? You just

784
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Speaker 2: think that Paris Johnson is a better player.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think Paris Jones is the better player.

786
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Speaker 5: Watched the stink of Isaiah Wilson out of Georgia off

787
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Speaker 5: of my memory for the Titans either, I think Johnson

788
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: probably a little bit more.

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Speaker 10: Uh. I mean, you got a lot of size.

790
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Speaker 5: Coming out of Georgia there, But I think the Titans

791
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 5: would want a guy maybe.

792
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Speaker 10: Moves a little bit better for.

793
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Speaker 5: That outside zone, for Derrick Henry and for whoever's.

794
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Speaker 10: Coming coming next.

795
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Speaker 5: I think they would stick with that style.

796
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Speaker 10: And so I just lean lean to Ohio State.

797
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Speaker 2: How seriously should we take a potential quarterback here at

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Speaker 2: eleven for Tennessee?

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Speaker 9: I just have.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they've looked very closely at the quarterback, so

801
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 5: we clearly can't dismiss the idea. But I hope they

802
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 5: were looking closely at the second two to find reasons

803
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Speaker 5: not to take them. I mean, Will Levis's very popular

804
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Speaker 5: comp is Ryan Tannehill, and I don't think you take

805
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Speaker 5: another Ryan Tannehill at eleven. I think there are a

806
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 5: lot of holes in his game. And I understand Richardson

807
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 5: being very compelling, but he's also incredibly raw. If they

808
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 5: took Anthony Richardson or made a move to get Anthony Richardson,

809
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Speaker 5: I think they're given a massive endorsement to a new

810
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator and Tim Kelly and a new quarterback coach

811
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Speaker 5: in Charles London. And I don't know, thirteen college games

812
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: is just so much on the job training in the NFL.

813
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Speaker 5: I just don't I really worry about.

814
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Speaker 2: That, all right. So with their selection the Tennessee Titans,

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Speaker 2: courtesy of Polkoharsky, they select Paris Johnson, left tackle out

816
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Speaker 2: of Ohio State. Paul, thanks so much for the time.

817
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me appreciate it. All right. We thank

818
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Speaker 2: Paul Kleharski for joining us. He goes with what most

819
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Speaker 2: people think is the best left tackle prospect in the draft,

820
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Speaker 2: Power Johnson out of Ohio State. Now we go back

821
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Speaker 2: to our friend John Harris we heard from at number

822
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Speaker 2: two when the Texans selected CJ. Straud out of Ohio State.

823
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Speaker 2: Did not get the guy he necessarily wanted, but based

824
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Speaker 2: on your reaction to the text I sent you with

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Speaker 2: who got picked by the Titans at eleven? You are

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Speaker 2: getting who you want here at number twelve. So what

827
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Speaker 2: players here, John, are you kind of considering and on

828
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Speaker 2: the board here for the Texans in terms of needs

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Speaker 2: and fit?

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Speaker 7: Well, O h, I oh, this is very very easy.

831
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Speaker 7: He's looking at who's come off the board now. A

832
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Speaker 7: couple of things. When I see Tyree Wilson going ten

833
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Speaker 7: to the phoodelph the Eagles. If Tyree Wilson is getting

834
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Speaker 7: in that nine to ten range, I wouldn't be surprised.

835
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Speaker 7: As the Texans, after picking at two do make some

836
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Speaker 7: calls to move up.

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Speaker 8: I know Tyree.

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Speaker 7: Wilson they would like to get to satisfy their edge

839
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Speaker 7: rushing needs. But with Miles Murphy, Lucas van ask keyon

840
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Speaker 7: White a few others still on the board, I think

841
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Speaker 7: they go why receiver here? They won a buck guy

842
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Speaker 7: at number two, I think they'll go buck guys at

843
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Speaker 7: number twelve. This is a guy that the city of

844
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Speaker 7: Houston has been clamoring for, somebody that can do something

845
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Speaker 7: with the ball in his hands. He is a Texan

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Speaker 7: and he comes back home at number twelve John, I'm

847
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 7: going Jackson Smith and Jigba coming back to the Texans

848
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Speaker 7: wide receiver corp.

849
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Speaker 2: Now, was this the easy wide receiver pick? Because I

850
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: know there are some different different opinions out there and

851
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: who the true number one wide receiver is in this class?

852
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Speaker 2: And you guys do have again he's recovering from from cancer,

853
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: but you do have a guy that was very successful

854
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: in the slot in terms of John Metchi already on

855
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Speaker 2: the roster. So what was it? Was this the easy

856
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 2: wide receiver pick just because of the Ohio state connection

857
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: or what?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 7: I think it's just I mean, John, you saw our

860
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 7: receiver last year and then you say Grandy Cooks out

861
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 7: of that mix. Now you're right, yeah, Metchi, but you know,

862
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 7: Metsi's coming off me a fight, and so you.

863
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: Just never know.

864
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Speaker 7: You know, we had it with David Quaesenberry back in

865
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Speaker 7: twenty fourteen, and Quesenberry wasn't able to see the field

866
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Speaker 7: till twenty seventeen, and there were thoughts in fifteen and

867
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Speaker 7: sixteen we were gonna get him back, so we didn't

868
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Speaker 7: eve get him on the field till seventeen. So he

869
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 7: just never know, and at that point, this team needs

870
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Speaker 7: more guys that know what the heck to do with

871
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 7: the pigskin in their hands. They don't just catch him

872
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 7: fall down. They don't make catching the sidelines. Esn's gonna

873
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 7: make the catch and then he's gonna make something happen.

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Speaker 7: He's electric in space. This team just doesn't have anybody

875
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 7: that an opposing defense goes you know what, That guy

876
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 7: scares me a little bit. Now we've got Damian Pearson

877
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 7: that helps. That definitely helps. But now you've got just

878
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 7: Sen you add to the mix, and now defensive coordinators

879
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 7: go okay, then they can do some stuff. And here's

880
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 7: the other thing too about jess enn Even though he

881
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 7: played the majority of the time in the Slaughter of

882
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 7: the House State, it's because he was playing next to

883
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 7: Chris Olavee and Garrett Wilson the last night. Look, those

884
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 7: dudes are pretty good. And then at the beginning of

885
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 7: this year he's playing next to Marvin Harrison Junior at

886
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 7: Mecha Buca. So he played in the slot because he

887
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 7: was probably the best to do that. But all those

888
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 7: receivers have admitted the best athlete is a bunch well athlete.

889
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: Hey, drab, that helps.

890
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 7: Too, But to me, this is the pick that everybody

891
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 7: Houston really wants outside of a quarterback, They want to

892
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 7: be part of this offense. So I'm taking him right

893
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 7: here at twelve.

894
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: John, good stuff. We appreciate it, and you have a

895
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: lot of picks here, so you're gonna have a busy

896
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: few nights. Hopefully you'll get some happier phone calls this

897
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: time as opposed to what happened at number two.

898
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly, thank you, John.

899
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: We thank you John Harris again. Texans Radio down there

900
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: does a great job. A couple of picks there. He

901
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: goes double Ohio State with CJ. Stroud at two, and

902
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: then his throwing mate Jackson Smith and Jigba at number twelve.

903
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: Number thirteen, we just go a little bit west to

904
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: Florham Park and we say a little Brian Costello, he

905
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: covers the Jets for the New York Post. Brian Jets

906
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: sitting here. I'm sure they're not thrilled that three offensive

907
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: linemen have gone off the board. We know that's in

908
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: need for them. Talk about that and what other pressing

909
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: needs and players they can be keeping an eye on

910
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: here for number thirteen.

911
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 15: Overall, Yeah, I mean, offensive line is a big need

912
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 15: for them. Obviously they're working on a trade. You may

913
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 15: have heard John them they're working on a trade Aaron

914
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 15: Rodgers as their quarterback. Breaking breaking news here for you.

915
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 15: They're gonna get They need somebody to protect them because

916
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 15: their offensive line was not great last year. So it's

917
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 15: not great that they three offensive linemen off the border ready.

918
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 15: I think you know also Jackson Smith and Jig was

919
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 15: a guy who's interesting, but he went to pick before.

920
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 15: I do think the defensive line is in need for

921
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 15: the Jets, but after Jalen Carter there's a pretty big

922
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 15: drop off there, so I don't think they're gonna you know,

923
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 15: that's the one possibility I'm looking at, but I don't think.

924
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 15: I think it might be a reach at thirteen for

925
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 15: the other guys, but really that's their biggest needs is

926
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 15: in the trenches right now.

927
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know you have let me

928
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: ask you this, what do the Jets think of Beckton

929
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: at this point? Is he like, all right, if we

930
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: get something out of him, it's a bonus, but we're

931
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: not counting on him. Just what how are they viewing him?

932
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly, it's it's if he can play great, like

933
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 15: they It's almost like they're getting another first round pick,

934
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 15: right because because they they haven't had him for the

935
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 15: last two years. But they can't count on him. He

936
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 15: hasn't he played one game in the last two years.

937
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 15: He's had knee injuries. He's like if you look at

938
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 15: him on social media, he's lost a lot of weight.

939
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 15: They're encouraged by the way he's working, but you really

940
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 15: you can't pencil him in as a start and left

941
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 15: tackle right now. I think they they're just going to

942
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 15: go the more the merrier at the tackle position. If

943
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 15: they draft one and let it sort itself out in

944
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 15: training camp, and you know they they're going to be

945
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 15: I don't think they're gonna pick up the fift year

946
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 15: option on beck in which they haven't announced yet, but

947
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 15: I'd be highly skeptical of that. So in the year,

948
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 15: you're gonna need to tackle maybe anyway, So if they

949
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 15: take one this year and he ends up not playing

950
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 15: much of a rookie, so be it. They're going to

951
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 15: need him down the line.

952
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: Nothing motivates a player like hitting a contract year. You

953
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: know how that goes by, all right, So let's have

954
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: it jets here with the pick number thirteen in our

955
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: Giants hut Over Portermonk Draft the New York Jets courtesy

956
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 2: of Brian Castello, the New York Post Select.

957
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 15: I willed to take Georgia tackle Broderick Jones for the Jets.

958
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 15: Like I said, the offensive line is in need, and

959
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 15: pretty much all the other guys that will be on

960
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 15: my board are gone already. But I think Jones is

961
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 15: worth the number thirteen pick and bring him in. He's

962
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 15: got a great great Georgia. A lot of guys view

963
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 15: him as the top tackle in this draft, or if not,

964
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 15: the number two tackle. He's kind of a different guy

965
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 15: than Besting. He's thinner, He's a thinner frame. But I

966
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 15: do think like I said, I think the Jets are

967
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 15: gonna go go out there the McKai beck and they

968
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 15: have Dwayne Brown, they have Max Mitchells they drafted last

969
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 15: year in the fourth round, and then throwing Broderick Jones,

970
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 15: and you can have a nice little competition to see

971
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 15: who is both the left tackle and the right tackle.

972
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 15: And you need to figure that out. And they may

973
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 15: got to make sure that they're you know, soon to

974
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 15: be thirty nine year old quarterback is protected back then hey.

975
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: And look, Jones is a great athlete. You get him

976
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: on some of those outside zone runs with breeze Hall.

977
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: I think you might have something cooking there, Brian, good stuff, man.

978
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: We appreciate the time. Best of luck.

979
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 15: All right, thanks John.

980
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: We thank Brian Costello from the New York Post. The

981
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: New York Jets select Broderick Jones, left tackle out of Georgia,

982
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: and now we go to their division rival, the New

983
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: England Patriots, and to make the selection for them in

984
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: front of the program Mike Reese from ESPN. He did

985
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: this for US a couple of years ago. He rejoins US. Now,

986
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: all right, Mike, Patriots here selecting at fourteenth. Overall, What

987
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: are the kind of thoughts that you have heading into

988
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 2: this pick, positions of need and player pool that you're

989
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: considering here for New England.

990
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was great when you sent me the first

991
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 16: thirteen picks. The first thing I did, Hey, where'd those

992
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 16: two cornerbacks go?

993
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 11: Are they clothes?

994
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 16: Okay? So with the two corners off the board early

995
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 16: in this mock, that was my first thought. Then I said, okay,

996
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 16: what's the run in the offensive tackle? So I'm like,

997
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 16: you're killing me here board or not all of them,

998
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 16: but you know, and so that sort of led me

999
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 16: to a couple different thoughts because I do think corner,

1000
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 16: offensive tackle, receiver, which I know is a hot button

1001
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 16: topic out your way, tight end or really any defender.

1002
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 16: And so that's sort of where my thought led me.

1003
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 16: And you want to let it rip or you want

1004
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 16: me to sort of hold off on who I went with?

1005
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know what, let me ask you one

1006
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: follow up before you let it rip. Here. You know,

1007
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: we talk about, you know, the Patriots with receivers, they

1008
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: haven't a a lot of success drafting, and we talk

1009
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: about quote unquote Bill Belichick players. But I think at

1010
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: least from the outside, you sense that, you know, maybe

1011
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: from the ownership level, the tide seems to be shifting

1012
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of maybe how they kind

1013
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: of want to build and run the Patriots. Is that

1014
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: a false impression or is Bill Belichick so basically doing

1015
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: whatever he wants? And that's that just kind of how's

1016
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: that working up there? Where we're kind of seems like

1017
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: we're creeping towards the end of an era a little bit.

1018
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 16: So I don't know if I would go that far,

1019
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 16: but what I would say is last year Bill Belichick's

1020
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 16: unconventional decision with his coaching staff offensively and specifically, you know,

1021
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 16: in trusting two coaches sort of lead the way there

1022
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 16: that didn't really have a primary background on offense in

1023
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 16: Matt Patricia and Joe Judge didn't produce the results that

1024
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 16: anyone wanted. And Bill Belichick has said that last part himself.

1025
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 16: And so I think what you saw was the owner,

1026
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 16: Robert Kraft basically saying, look, this is where I just

1027
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 16: need to step in and let my fans know, like

1028
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 16: we're not coming back and doing the same thing again.

1029
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 16: And I think some people have just looked at that

1030
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 16: and said, whoa is Craft putting the hammer down on Belichick. Honestly,

1031
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 16: I believe Bill Belichick would have come to the same

1032
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 16: decision himself, right, He just probably wouldn't have announced it.

1033
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 16: So I think that's sort of where we are right now.

1034
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: Fair enough, All right, let's rip we got the newing.

1035
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 2: What they's fourteenth overall on our Giants? Litle bit reporter

1036
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: mock draft Mike Gees from ESPN represents the Patriots. I'm

1037
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: sure Bill Belichick handpicked you, Mike as his most trusted

1038
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: lieutenant in the situation, who do you select well?

1039
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 16: I don't know about that last part, and I don't

1040
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 16: know if I'm gonna get my pick right, But I'm

1041
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 16: very intrigued by the player. We're going with, Nolan Smith

1042
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 16: out of Georgia. Guy can do a little bit of

1043
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 16: everything on defense. And when we think about Bill Belichick

1044
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 16: and Giants fans know this, well, what does he love? Versatility,

1045
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 16: Smart's high football IQ and it looks like Nolan Smith

1046
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 16: checks those boxes. I will tell you I don't want

1047
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 16: to sort of offset my pick. I mean, I'm a

1048
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 16: little hesitant based on the physical measurables. They don't jump

1049
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 16: off the page to me in terms of like the

1050
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 16: six two two thirty eight to say that's a Patriot

1051
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 16: type linebacker, edge type guy. But I'm gonna roll the

1052
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 16: dice and say that he's a blue chip type guy

1053
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 16: that they.

1054
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: Could work with.

1055
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: Mike excellent stuff. We appreciate the time. I'm best of

1056
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: luck this offseason.

1057
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 16: Thanks for having me. That's a lot of fun.

1058
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: We thank Mike Reees from ESPN. He selects Nolan Smith

1059
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: for the new England Patriots ed rusher linebacker. Bill Belichick

1060
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: loves those linebackers. He adds one there. Now we head

1061
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: to the NFC North and the Green Bay Packers. They

1062
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: have not transitioned off their quarterback yet though that I

1063
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: suppose that could be imminent. And to join us to

1064
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: talk about what they might do in the draft is

1065
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 2: Pete Darty. He's with the Green Bay Press Gazette making

1066
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: the selection today for the Packers. So kind of your

1067
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: transition here, Pete, So what are your thoughts as the

1068
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: Packers start thinking about this pick here with who's off

1069
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: the board needs and what players are they you think

1070
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 2: really going to have in their consideration with this pick.

1071
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 17: Yeah, they're like a lot of teams, you know, they've

1072
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 17: got multiple, you know, pretty big needs. So you know,

1073
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 17: the best guess is they go with the best guy

1074
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 17: he could be at any of you know, four five positions.

1075
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 17: But pass Rusher is way high on that list. With

1076
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 17: Rashan Gary coming back from mcl presen Smiths thirty one,

1077
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 17: they don't have a lot behind those guys. So with

1078
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 17: the Rushers were still available, I'm going to go with

1079
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 17: Lucas fan Mess from.

1080
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: Iowa, somewhat of a local kid at least in the

1081
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: at least in that Midwestern type of area. I know

1082
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people and I'm sure you get you're

1083
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 2: tired of hearing this, but I'll ask you the question anyway.

1084
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: I know Packers fans want weapons right there, and you

1085
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: want to help the young quarterback and Jordan Love. How

1086
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: much of a consideration here where wide receivers are tight ends?

1087
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 8: Very much?

1088
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 17: You know, I would think Kincaid, the tight end from Utah,

1089
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 17: would be a real possibility there. They've had, you know,

1090
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 17: so much success drafting receivers in the second round and

1091
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 17: later that I think they'd had to feel like somebody

1092
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 17: was pretty special to take that position in the.

1093
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 13: First round, and maybe they will.

1094
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 17: If they see Kincaid as a George Kittle type talent,

1095
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 17: then you know he'd be awful tough to pass up.

1096
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 17: But pass rushers are kind of like tackles, you know. Yeah,

1097
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 17: of course you can find really good players at any

1098
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 17: position anywhere in the draft, but your best, you know,

1099
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 17: you have a much better shot going early and going

1100
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 17: for upside. And so that's the kind of pick that

1101
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 17: that ven S would be. I think Miles Murphy, I

1102
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 17: think he's still on the board too. I think he'd

1103
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 17: get possibility there too. So you could really take your

1104
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 17: pick between those two. Whichever guy that they like better.

1105
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: And then my final question before I say goodbye Peet

1106
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: very quickly, any consideration here to tackle only because David

1107
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: Bachtiari's dealt with so many injuries. I know there's not

1108
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: many left on the board here, so maybe not in

1109
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: this configuration, but would that be a consideration you think

1110
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: for the Packers trying to shore up that offensive line

1111
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: long term.

1112
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 17: Yeah, it looked like they have, you know that they

1113
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 17: had mostly gone by this point that the top guys.

1114
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 8: But yes, it would be it would be a lesson

1115
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 8: of acute need.

1116
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 17: That would be a looking a year down the road

1117
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 17: because they feel like they figured out back tires, how

1118
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 17: much to practice him and then he can play. But

1119
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 17: because of his contract, there's a really good chance that

1120
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 17: he's gonna end up getting cut next offseason. And Yashneimen,

1121
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 17: the right tackle, is on the RFA Restricted free Agents

1122
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 17: second round tender, so his deal is up after next season,

1123
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 17: after the season, so that would be a pick looking

1124
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 17: for a starter, a guy who they can put in

1125
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 17: right away a year from now if they want that route.

1126
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: Pete, this is great. We appreciate the time. Thanks so much,

1127
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: and good luck this offseason.

1128
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 17: All right, thanks for having me all.

1129
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: Right, we thank Pete Doherty from the Green Bay Press Gazette.

1130
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: The select Lucas van Ness edge rusher slash defensive tackle.

1131
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how they'll view him, but we'll see

1132
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: out of Iowa. And now we turn our attention back

1133
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: to the NFC East. For the Washington Post, Sam forty

1134
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: eight covers the Washington Commanders. He's tracking billions of dollars

1135
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 2: in ownerships, but he has some time for the draft

1136
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: horse today. Sam, what's going on? Man? How are you?

1137
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're happy to talk about football and not

1138
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: business deals?

1139
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 18: Oh man, I have been scouring the some records that

1140
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 18: I did not think that I would ever have to

1141
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 18: be in and talking about billion dollar deals and who's

1142
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 18: you know, who's getting what from where, and what the

1143
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 18: structure look like. So it is nice to be able

1144
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 18: to chop it up about the ball with you.

1145
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and there was no salary cap, luckily for fourteen purchases.

1146
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: So luckily, I think Dan slind is gonna walk away

1147
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: pretty happy here, all right, Sam, So just give me,

1148
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: you know, bigger thousand foot view here. What are the

1149
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: Washington Commander's big needs? What are their goals? What are

1150
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: they thinking? Here player pool they're considering with this first

1151
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: round pick.

1152
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 18: Yeah, if I had to estimate, I'd say that they

1153
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 18: are looking at two positions very strongly, cornerback and offensive line.

1154
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 18: Those I think are the main positions big like to

1155
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 18: take in the first round. But obviously you know with

1156
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 18: your mock, some of the opposive linemen are flying off

1157
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 18: the board, so that definitely puts the Washington team in

1158
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 18: this case, in a difficult spot. So it's a really

1159
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 18: fun exercise. But I imagine those two I think that

1160
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 18: they could look tight end. Maybe if they traded down,

1161
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 18: I think they could. I'm very skeptical that they would

1162
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 18: take a running back. I know a lot of people

1163
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 18: are mocking Bijon Robinson to them, and that seemed to

1164
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 18: gain some steam over the last couple of weeks, but

1165
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 18: I would have a very hard time seeing that play out.

1166
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess the other question then, you did

1167
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: mentioned the quarterback position. There they seem to be pretty

1168
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: confident going ahead with Sam Howell.

1169
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 18: Yeah, and to me, this really goes back to kind

1170
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 18: of the ownership still, right, Like Ron Rivera knows that

1171
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 18: he has to audition for his job this year, he

1172
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 18: knows that he's likely going to need to win a

1173
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 18: playoff game to stay employed. And a first round quarterback, particularly,

1174
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 18: you know, one of the more developmental guys Anthony Richardson

1175
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 18: or Hendon Hooker, who's coming off a pretty big acl.

1176
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 18: I mean, those guys are not going to meaningful help

1177
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 18: his case to win more games this year. I think

1178
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 18: they need an impact player immediately. You saw last year,

1179
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 18: you know, they took a lot of guys from the SEC,

1180
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 18: from the Big Ten who have extensive play history, who

1181
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 18: can be immediate contributors. John dottson Frederian Mathis, Brian Robinson.

1182
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 18: I mean, that's sort of the prospect that they're looking for,

1183
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 18: and I don't think that the quarterbacks who would be

1184
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 18: available at sixteen would be those type of guys.

1185
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: All right, make your pick here, Sam, and tell me

1186
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: how you came to your conclusion. Is based on our

1187
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: techning back and forth last night. This was not an

1188
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: easy one for.

1189
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 5: You, Yes, as everybody does.

1190
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 18: I was bugging Johns for a while last night, saying,

1191
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 18: it's a really tough spot. I'd like to trade down,

1192
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 18: but apparently we can't do that. So I'm gonna stay

1193
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 18: pat and make this pick for me. The pick here

1194
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 18: is probably Brian Branch, the safety slash corner from Alabama,

1195
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 18: and there are a few reasons for that. Number one

1196
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 18: being he is a lot of those things that we

1197
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 18: just discussed. He is a pact, multi year, multi year

1198
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 18: production player from Alabama. We know that this team loved

1199
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 18: Alabama players, both on the defensive line and last year,

1200
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 18: taking one in the second and third round, and so

1201
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 18: Brian Branch also fits what Jack Galriel likes to do defensively.

1202
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 18: He has that position flexibility with Kim Curl, with Derek Forth,

1203
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 18: he could kind of rotate and give them a discuss,

1204
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 18: you know, be able to disguise their looks. And I

1205
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 18: think that he is just a guy that you can

1206
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 18: trust to come in right away. This team plays three

1207
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 18: safeties at one of the highest rates in the league,

1208
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 18: and so I think that he fits in to their

1209
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 18: defensive scheme pretty well.

1210
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Sam, We appreciate the time my

1211
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: friend enjoyed the off season, and hopefully you have some

1212
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: normalcy returned to the Washington Commanders at some point in

1213
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: the next couple of months. I appreciate it.

1214
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 18: Man, of course, thank you for having me.

1215
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: And I gotta ask what off season trust me, I

1216
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: know what off season. Thank you buddy, Yes, sir, thank you.

1217
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: We thank Sam forty eight from the Washington Post. They

1218
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: might have a new ownder down there. Sam's excited about that.

1219
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 2: We had to Steelers and of course family owned business

1220
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: over there. Ray fit Depoudle covers them for the Pittsburgh

1221
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: Post Gazette. Ray, you got John Schmelke here and each

1222
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: other for New Jersey. How you doing, Hope you are well?

1223
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 2: Steelers just missed the playoffs last year. Eat that over

1224
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: five hundred. What are the needs here? What are the thoughts?

1225
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: What are the player pool that the Steelers would be

1226
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: considering here with this mid round pick?

1227
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean I think their top three needs and

1228
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 19: really in no particular order, because they did a pretty

1229
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 19: good job in free agency of filling some holes on

1230
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 19: their roster. They signed ten outside free agents, so they

1231
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 19: don't have any glaring need that they have to address

1232
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 19: at number seventeen here. So here you go, in no

1233
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 19: particular order, cornerback, offensive line, probably offensive tackle, and then

1234
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 19: defensive line interior defensive line. So those are the three

1235
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 19: positions I think they're looking at at number seventeen, and

1236
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 19: I really think depending on how the board falls, it

1237
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 19: could be any of those three.

1238
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we've seen how the board fell. Two

1239
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: cornerbacks went early, so the rest of them are still

1240
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: on the board. The offensive lineman had been flying off

1241
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: the top. Four offensive tackles are gone, and then you

1242
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: just had Lucas van nessill. I'm sure something you would

1243
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: have considered just went off the board a couple of

1244
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: picks prior. So break it down for us. Representing the

1245
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: Steelers to the seventeenth pick in the first round, Ray

1246
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: fit Apoldo from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette selects.

1247
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean I select Joey Porter Junior out of

1248
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 19: Penn State. And this one was really easy. You know,

1249
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 19: all four offensive tackle prospects were gone. As you mentioned,

1250
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 19: Lucas van ness was gone, and also Oregon corner Christian

1251
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 19: Gonzalez and Illinois corner Devin Witherspoon were off the board.

1252
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 19: So Joey Porter Junior has been tied to the Steelers

1253
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 19: a lot in the pre draft process. I think, you know,

1254
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 19: for obvious reasons. He grew up here, his dad played here,

1255
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 19: dad was a coach here, and this is a prospect

1256
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 19: that the Steelers are very familiar with. Joey Porter Junior

1257
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 19: and Mike Tomlin's son Dino, who is now finishing up

1258
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 19: his college career at Boston College. They played high school

1259
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 19: ball together for two years. Dino and Joey Porter Junior

1260
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 19: were always at the Steelers facility during the season. During

1261
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 19: the offseason, it was not uncommon to see those guys

1262
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 19: on the field doing drills during OTA's and mini camps

1263
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 19: and training camps. So this is a prospect they're very

1264
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 19: familiar with, and I think if the board breaks the

1265
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 19: way that it did in your draft, I think Joey

1266
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 19: Porter Junior will be a Pittsburgh Steeler.

1267
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: A really quick follow up of the guys still available

1268
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 2: besides Porter Junior, it sounds like it was a pretty

1269
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: easy pick for you. Who else was in consideration that

1270
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: was left that you think the Steelers might have interested.

1271
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 5: But it was still on the board.

1272
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think they're very interested in interior offensive lineman

1273
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 19: as well. They had Osiris to Lawrence in for a visit.

1274
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 19: They had Minnesota center John Michael Schmidt's in for a visit,

1275
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 19: TCU Steve Lavila in for a visit. But you know,

1276
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 19: I think those guys are going to be targeted more

1277
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 19: say late first round, early to mid second round, and

1278
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 19: I think the Steelers can get one of those guys

1279
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 19: because they have the first pick in the second round.

1280
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 19: So you know, I mentioned offensive line being a big

1281
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 19: need for this team. It is, but I don't think

1282
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 19: it's going to supersede them taking an interior offensive lineman

1283
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 19: over another need, which is cornerback at number seventeen.

1284
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers. I'm sure very happy about that Chase

1285
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: Claypool trade over the next couple of weeks. Absolutely, Ray,

1286
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: good stuff, man. We appreciate the time. Thank you so much.

1287
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: Good luck the rest of the offseason.

1288
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 19: Thank you, John appreciate it.

1289
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: Joey Border Junior to his dad's old team, the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1290
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: courtesee of Ray Fittipaldo for the Pittsburgh postings that we

1291
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 2: thank him for joining us. We're back to our buddy

1292
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: Jeff Risden from Draft Wire and Lions Wire. At take eighteen, Lions,

1293
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: with the sixth overall pick in the draft, selected Devin Witherspoon,

1294
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: cornerback out of Illinois, where we joined by Jeff Risdon,

1295
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: who obviously does a lot of draft stuff with us

1296
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: as well. Jeff, Before we get to the Lions here.

1297
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Speaker 2: Just your thoughts on kind of what we've seen here

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01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: through the first seventeen picks.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting that so many cornerbacks and defensive

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01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 8: backs have gone. I kind of expect that, but it's

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Speaker 8: still a little bit stunning to see when you look

1302
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 8: at like wide receivers. There's some edges that are still

1303
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 8: on the board that I think a lot of people

1304
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 8: probably have expected to go.

1305
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: A lot of offensive line off the board too.

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01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, it looks like there's a still a quarterback

1307
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 8: on the board that I don't think many people expect

1308
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 8: to be there. So it's it's it's always fascinating to

1309
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 8: see what wrinkles happen that we don't necessarily anticipate, and

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Speaker 8: in this one, those are the ones that stand out

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01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 8: to me.

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Speaker 2: All Right, so what are the lines thinking here? They

1313
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: got a cornerback with their first selection, they're up here

1314
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: at eighteen. What are the needs now and what's kind

1315
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 2: of the playerpool you're thinking about?

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Speaker 8: Jeff, Yeah, so there there's still in need of a

1317
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 8: defensive tackle, defensive line help. They have a pretty strong

1318
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 8: edge group right now that's young, but if they can

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01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 8: add somebody else to that, I think that that makes

1320
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 8: some sense. Off ball linebacker is this is absurdly early

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01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 8: for them to take one of those, especially given the

1322
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 8: class that there's in, but they do absolutely need one

1323
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 8: of those at some point. Wide receiver is certainly something

1324
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 8: that consider. But this is this honestly where they're at

1325
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Speaker 8: in the draft right now. They're drafting for twenty twenty four,

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01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 8: twenty twenty five and beyond. So this is this pick

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Speaker 8: will be made with more of a longer term look

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01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 8: than something Who's this I'll sell you it doesn't really

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01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 8: much matter who I pick here. I think this player

1330
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 8: is going to start in twenty twenty three, and for

1331
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Speaker 8: the Detroit Lions. That's that's stunning that you're gonna have

1332
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 8: a first round pick. It'sn't expected to start right away.

1333
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 8: That's the new life that we're experiencing, and it's a

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01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 8: very good life, all right.

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Speaker 2: So let's make to pick her. Jeff, who do you

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: select for the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna I'm gonna go a little bit off script

1338
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 8: from where I expected to go. But Jean Robinson still

1339
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 8: on the board. Well, he's the third best player in

1340
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 8: this draft. So this I'll explain a little bit DeAndre

1341
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 8: Swift is going to be a free agent after this

1342
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 8: season based on his injury issues, and and uh, I

1343
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 8: don't want to say I don't. I don't want a

1344
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 8: dog Swift, but they expected more from him. They signed

1345
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 8: David Montgomery this offseason. But if you can get a

1346
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 8: true impact player, I think Jon Robinson is as good

1347
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 8: as any running back since Saquon and and he might

1348
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 8: actually be better than Saquon. And I don't mean that

1349
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 8: to slay Saquon at all, because he's fantastic. If I

1350
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 8: can get that player with this pick, I'm going to

1351
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 8: do it. So it will be Texas running back John Robinson.

1352
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: All right. See now, the way you previewed that, I

1353
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: thought you might go quarterback and select Will Levis. Was

1354
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: that a consideration for you? There?

1355
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 8: It would be, But I really I'm really not high

1356
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 8: on Will levels at all. I don't. I just don't

1357
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 8: see what a lot of other people see in him.

1358
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 8: He's not for me, And I don't think the Lions

1359
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 8: would see it that way either. I think I think

1360
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 8: they're gonna wait till Day three to take a quarterback.

1361
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 8: Kelly Clayton, Tune or Aiden O'Connell or somebody like that,

1362
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 8: Jaron Hall. Maybe I think that's the range where they're

1363
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 8: gonna be looking at quarterbacks. So you know, it crossed

1364
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 8: my mind. If it would have been any of the

1365
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 8: other quarterbacks, I think I would have strongly considered it.

1366
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 8: But I'm just really not a little Levis guy, So

1367
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 8: I'm gonna pull some editorial pull there.

1368
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: And say, no, you're making the pick. It sounds good, Jeff.

1369
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time, man, Thank you so much, thanks

1370
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: for having me. We thank Jeff Risden from Lions Wire

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01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: and Draft Wire with this little quick draft commentary and

1372
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: then a selection of b Jon Robinson to try to

1373
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: superpower what was already a pretty impressive Detroit Lions offense

1374
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: last season. And now we head down to the NFC

1375
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: South and the tenth day Buccaneers. Just two years removed

1376
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: from a Super Bowl championship. Now they're in somewhat of

1377
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: a I'm not gonna got a rebuilding process, but certainly

1378
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: a retooling process without Tom Brady at quarterback. And to

1379
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: talk about it is Scott Reynolds who covers the Bucks

1380
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: for Pewter Reports. Scott, thanks for doing this for us, man.

1381
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: What are the Bucks major? Need you think here, Where

1382
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: are they organizationally? How are they trying to build when

1383
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: they look at this first round pick in the draft.

1384
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 12: Jason Light has had tremendous success drafting offensive linemen and

1385
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 12: doing so with premium picks. The most latest one is

1386
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 12: probably his best pick, Tristan Wurks, who is a first

1387
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 12: round pick in twenty twenty to right tack lot of Biola.

1388
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 12: He quickly became a Pro bowler and an All Pro

1389
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 12: and is really the cornerstone of this Bucks offensive line

1390
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 12: that does need some retooling. Back in twenty fifteen, Light

1391
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 12: used two second round picks to draft left tackle Donovan

1392
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 12: Smith and offensive guard Ali Marpet, who became a Pro bowler.

1393
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 12: Both those players, along with Works, helped the Bucks win

1394
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 12: Super Bowl fifty in twenty twenty. So, with Donovan Smith

1395
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 12: being jettison thisfseason after having a bad year, they need

1396
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 12: some help al on the offensive line, and they probably

1397
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 12: need a left tackle. And so when you look at

1398
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 12: the players that have been selected so far Scronsky, Darnell Wright,

1399
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 12: Paris Johnson, and Broderick Jones, it makes sense for the

1400
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 12: Buccaneers to use the number nineteen pick in the twenty

1401
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 12: twenty three NFL Draft to select Oklahoma left tackle Aton Harrison.

1402
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: Interesting, very strong offensive line. I agree. I think that

1403
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: that's a smart movie for Tampa where they are. What

1404
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: other positions would have been in the mix year? Did

1405
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 2: you think about Will Levis? If they don't go online,

1406
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 2: what the rush do you think they could go?

1407
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 10: I think edge rusher.

1408
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 12: You look at Shaq Barrett, who's now thirty years old

1409
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 12: and kind of coming off with a down season. It

1410
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 12: was cut short to to an achilles injury, but he

1411
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 12: only had three sacks in the first eight games, and

1412
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 12: that's an allful lot of money. You're paying him at

1413
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 12: seventeen million dollars per year for scant production, and the

1414
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 12: team is concerned that again age thirty, he'll be thirty

1415
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 12: one in November coming off that torn achilles. If Shaq

1416
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 12: Bet can return to form the other pick that they

1417
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 12: used on an edge rusher back in twenty twenty one,

1418
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 12: Their first rounder Joe Tryan Shoenka, has stalled out at

1419
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 12: four sacks in each of his two years with the Buccaneers.

1420
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 12: He's entering a pivotal year three and they really need

1421
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 12: some more sack production from him, so just to safeguard themselves,

1422
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 12: in case try and Schoenka does not develop into that

1423
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 12: double digit sacker that the team hopes he can, and

1424
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 12: just in case Shaqbrett can't return to form an edge

1425
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 12: rusher is a pick that they could make in the

1426
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 12: first or second round. Iowa States Will McDonald would be

1427
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 12: at consideration early at pick number fifty. Kansas States Felix

1428
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 12: and Udique Oza would also be in the mix. And

1429
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 12: for some reason, Alabama's Brian Branch, the safety and that

1430
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 12: slot safety that is an All American and a big

1431
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 12: time playmaker for the Crimson Tide, if he should slide

1432
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 12: down to the Bucks at number nineteen, he would also

1433
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 12: be in consideration.

1434
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: So you don't think quarterback here, I don't think quarterback.

1435
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 12: Just when you look at the fact that they've ad

1436
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 12: at Baker Mayfield, they still have their own second round

1437
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 12: pick and Kyle Trash that had to sit behind Tom

1438
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 12: Brady for two years and buy this time and wait

1439
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 12: and develop behind the scenes. I just told that there's

1440
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 12: enough reps to go around in training camp to have

1441
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 12: a three way race for the starting quarterback position. The

1442
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 12: air apparent to Tom Brady. It just especially learning a

1443
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 12: new offense. Dave Canals is bringing from Seattle. I don't

1444
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 12: know that they have enough reps to go around to

1445
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 12: really make it an effective battle to try to find

1446
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 12: a starting quarterback and to adequately prepare that eventual starter

1447
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 12: for week one. If you're splitting up the rips three ways.

1448
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. Scott, good stuff. That Will Levis

1449
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: slide continues. We appreciate it, my friend. Enjoy the rest

1450
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: of the offseason.

1451
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 11: Appreciate it.

1452
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 6: Thanks for the time.

1453
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 2: All right, We thanks Scott Reynolds computer report. The Bucks

1454
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 2: say no to Will Levis to quarterback. He's still on

1455
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: the board. They select Anton Harrison, left tackle to help

1456
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: out their offensive line for Baker Mayfield and company. So

1457
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 2: we go to the Seattle Seahawks. It pick number twenty.

1458
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: We're joined again by Bob Candatta from the Seattle Times

1459
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 2: at number five. He already selected Jalen Carter, the big

1460
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. And Bob, you're up here at number twenty

1461
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 2: now for the Seattle Seahawks. What are your thoughts in

1462
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: terms of needs in addition to what you already have

1463
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 2: and what players you're thinking about in this spot.

1464
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Will Levis being on the board would be

1465
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: very enticing, and I think they would think about that,

1466
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: and I'm torn on exactly what they what they will

1467
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: be thinking about their quarterback situation. I do think Levis

1468
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: would be really intrigued to them. I think Kendon Hooker

1469
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: would be at this point as well. They do have

1470
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: a couple of picks later, you know, they got picks

1471
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: thirty seven and fifty two and eighty three as well,

1472
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: so you know, I know they're I think part of

1473
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: how they're thinking about this is, you know the fact

1474
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: that they do have so many picks at the top

1475
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: of the draft, so much draft capital, that they can

1476
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: sort of the best player available a little bit here

1477
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: and and so that they can still get you know,

1478
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: the positions they want.

1479
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 11: Kind of along the way.

1480
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: Interesting, So you think you might if they let's say,

1481
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 2: you don't go quarterback here, could you envision a trade

1482
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: up from that early second round? Think if they do

1483
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: see one of these guys dropping deeper into the first round.

1484
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 4: I do.

1485
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're going to be really flexible and

1486
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: stay light on their on their feet in this one

1487
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: because I think they I think they're hoping, you know,

1488
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: anticipating they're not going to have you know, let's say

1489
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 1: a draft picks again anytime soon, especially the fifth.

1490
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 11: Obviously, which wasn't theirs.

1491
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: But but you know, I think.

1492
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 11: They're hoping there. They're they're winning games.

1493
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: The rest of the way and they're only going to

1494
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: have one pick and it's going to be twenty six

1495
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: or something, you know, in years to go, and so

1496
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: I think I think feeling like they have that flexibility

1497
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: there where it's like we have a couple of we

1498
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: have these picks, but we could maneuver around a little bit,

1499
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: and we know we have these two picks, you know,

1500
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: pretty high in the second round as well, you know,

1501
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: the first one anyway, being high in the second round

1502
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: and the second one being kind of in the middle

1503
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: of the round. You know that they can that they

1504
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: can be flexible that way.

1505
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 11: And take advantage of things.

1506
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: So I think more than ever, they're going to have

1507
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: a have a big board there that's going to have

1508
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts where they where they feel like,

1509
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, we could try to.

1510
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 11: Do this and that to kind of maximize.

1511
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 4: What we have.

1512
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: How much of a thought A final question before you

1513
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 2: make your pick here, Bob is wide receiver thought of

1514
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: the Seahawks in this draft. Some people out there seem

1515
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: to think that they'd want to, you know, get a

1516
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 2: third guy in there, maybe your venture replacement for Tyler Lockett.

1517
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: How much do you think they're really in the market

1518
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: for a wide receiver in round one.

1519
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 11: I don't know about Ron one.

1520
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: I definitely think they're in the market for receiver, but

1521
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 1: I think sure for the receiver where people think of

1522
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: the receivers comes into play, I don't know they're you know,

1523
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: I think the prevailing wisdom is there maybe aren't really

1524
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: that many receivers that you.

1525
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 11: Need to take that high in the draft.

1526
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: The Seahawks have actually done better when they sort of

1527
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: haven't reached for receivers and they've kind of let them

1528
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: come to them. If you follow up the Seahawks draft

1529
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: history at all, you know their two best receiver draft

1530
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: picks or DK Metcalf at sixty four and Tyler Lockett

1531
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: at sixty nine in the last decade. Each of those

1532
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: times they actually traded up to get each of those

1533
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 1: guys once they saw them there. But that was sort of,

1534
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, they were sort of better when they weren't

1535
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: necessarily targeting a guy but suddenly realized, ooh, DK metcaps available,

1536
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: let's hurry up and see if we can make a

1537
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: move to move up and get in as opposed to

1538
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times, you know, d Skras at fifty six,

1539
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: Paul Richardson at forty five, you know, didn't turn out

1540
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: as well. So I think it's more of that.

1541
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 11: I think, you know, either of those.

1542
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: Second round picks wouldn't surprise me at all if they

1543
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: see one of those receivers maybe fall to there and

1544
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: get them. So no, the third receiver is definitely something

1545
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: they need to do. And Tyler Lockett' getting up there

1546
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: in age and has a pretty big contract with huge

1547
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 1: captits coming up as well, so you know, I think

1548
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: they'd like to get a I think they really try

1549
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: to like to try to get another receiver for a

1550
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 1: lot of reasons, as they're pick up escorts two years ago.

1551
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 2: So all right, with the twentieth overall pick representing the Seahawks,

1552
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 2: Bob Candata from the Seattle Times selects.

1553
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna issue the quarterback and go with

1554
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: Brian Brian Bse of Clemson. He's gonna help them with

1555
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: their defensive line. They just really need defensive line help,

1556
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: and you know he's sort of another young guy I

1557
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: think with the high picks they have in this draft,

1558
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go a little bit for trying

1559
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:31,839
Speaker 1: to take guys.

1560
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 11: Who might be really really good.

1561
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: And you know, with with Jalen Carter and Brese, it's

1562
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: kind of two young guys who could be phenomenal players,

1563
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 1: and they each maybe come with a little bit of

1564
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: risk in terms of days and things like that and

1565
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: not knowing exactly what you're gonna get. But I think

1566
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: they're they're each guys that you you also, I think

1567
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: they look at like maybe these guys could really transform

1568
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: our defense and be real pillars for a long time.

1569
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: Bob, we appreciate you. Thank you so much. This is

1570
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: the second or thirty you've done this for us, making

1571
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: two picks this year. Best luck the rest of the

1572
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 2: off season.

1573
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 11: All right, thanks Leve.

1574
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: We thank Bob Candata from the Seattle Times. They go

1575
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: with Brian Braze, a second defensive lineman, considering they select

1576
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 2: the Jail and Carter earlier in the draft. So big

1577
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: time moves being made here, and now we get to

1578
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 2: one of the teams that I think has Super Bowl

1579
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: aspirations for next year. We're getting into that back half

1580
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 2: of the draft. The Los Angeles Chargers, and joining us

1581
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 2: to make that pick is Matt Mudey Smith, who's played

1582
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: by play man for the Chargers out there in LA Matt,

1583
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: tell me kind of what the main goals are for

1584
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 2: the franchise in this draft, and what are the positions

1585
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: and kind of player pool that you're thinking about here

1586
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: for pick number twenty one.

1587
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 12: Well, I think for the team, best case for them

1588
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 12: would probably be to trade back. You know, there's quarterbacks

1589
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,839
Speaker 12: sitting there. Maybe Will Levis slides or someone gets smitting

1590
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 12: with Hendon Hooker because they just need you. They've got

1591
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 12: way too many veterans on this roster and they need

1592
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 12: more depth. So I think ultimately if Tom Filepsco could

1593
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 12: pick up a pick or two, or maybe even a

1594
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 12: future one depending on how far he went back, that

1595
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 12: would be best case for him. The way the board

1596
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 12: is stacked as it's presented to me now, I think

1597
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 12: there's probably gonna be a bit of a tug of

1598
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 12: war between Tom Telesco and his head coach Brandon Staley

1599
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 12: for offense versus defense. But I just have to believe,

1600
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 12: having watched this team year in and year out against

1601
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 12: the Kansas City Chiefs, justin Herbert routinely puts this team

1602
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 12: up by three or four points in the final three

1603
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 12: minutes of a game, only to watch Patrick Mahomes march

1604
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 12: down the field and get the game winning score. So

1605
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 12: I think it's adding more offense, just giving Herbert as

1606
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 12: many weapons as possible, and perhaps there's a little bit

1607
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 12: of West Coast bias in it. For me, I was

1608
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 12: fortunate on our bye week to call the UFC Utah

1609
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 12: game and I watched Dalton Kin. Kid looked like a

1610
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 12: college version of Travis Kelcey. He was the only guy

1611
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 12: that was doing anything now that Utah offense and sc

1612
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 12: through everything they could at him defensively and it just

1613
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 12: did not matter. He had darn near three hundred yards

1614
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 12: and a few touchdowns. And I think adding a weapon

1615
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 12: like that to Mike Williams, to Keenan Allen, to Austin

1616
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 12: Eckler in the backfield, they've already kind of got their

1617
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 12: offensive line solidified after draft in that position in the

1618
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 12: first round the last two years. So I would give

1619
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 12: him one of those sort of queen on the chess

1620
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,799
Speaker 12: board pieces. You're going to cover him with a linebacker

1621
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 12: or a safety and give them just a really versatile

1622
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 12: athletically just superior tight end in Dalton kinkaid Hey.

1623
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: And I love Dalton Kinka too. He would probably my

1624
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: big pick here as well money. But I'll just ask

1625
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: you this is a follow up. Jackson Smith and Jig

1626
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 2: were the only wide receiver that's been taken, So you

1627
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: have a choice of everybody else. If you were to

1628
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: go wide receiver here, what would be the type that

1629
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: you would be looking for to compliment what the Chargers

1630
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: has Of the guys that are left.

1631
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,480
Speaker 12: That's probably the other That was sort of what I

1632
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 12: was kind of debating is do I you know, do

1633
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 12: the Chargers gose Flowers or do they go Dalton kin Kay.

1634
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 12: I think Flowers fits just because of the speed and

1635
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 12: he's look, he can do everything, he can play everywhere.

1636
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 12: I know some people are a little concerned about the sides.

1637
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 13: I'm not.

1638
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 12: He plays strong. You can't press the guy if you

1639
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 12: can't put your hands on him, and he's just so

1640
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,560
Speaker 12: quick off the line of scrimmage. I wouldn't be surprised

1641
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 12: if Kim Kid and they were both off the board.

1642
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 12: You know. The twenty seventh, If Jordan Addison is an

1643
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 12: under serious consideration, Chris Baidy, their wide receivers coach was

1644
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 12: his coach of Pitt and you obviously know how great

1645
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 12: he was winning the Blittnikoff that year. He's just so smooth,

1646
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 12: he's so smart, So I think he would complement Teenan

1647
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 12: and Mike well. But just the ross speed as day,

1648
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 12: the fact that he can take the top off, that

1649
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 12: he can do so many different things, I think would

1650
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 12: be sort of the ultimate fit for this team were

1651
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 12: he available there, which he would be in this mock.

1652
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 12: And like I said, I think that's kind of what

1653
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 12: I was kicking back and forth.

1654
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 2: They or kin kid for sure, and then very quickly

1655
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 2: if they went defense, what position do you think they

1656
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 2: would be focused on? Here?

1657
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 12: I would guess we off, look, they need a corner.

1658
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 12: You know, we don't know what the health status is

1659
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 12: of Ac Jackson. You know, Mikey Davis who had a

1660
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 12: big year last year, he was fantastic after Jackson went down.

1661
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 12: It's going to be a free agent after this year.

1662
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 12: So I'm, you know, sorry, I don't quite remember who

1663
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 12: was still left. It seemed like there was a bit

1664
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 12: of a run on corners, but if more was there,

1665
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 12: if you know, obviously Witherspoon Gonzalez. They're both going to

1666
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 12: be gone, so I think, you know, a Porter's there,

1667
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 12: maybe that's a consideration. Brian Branch is interesting. I think

1668
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 12: he was gone if I remember right, But just because

1669
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 12: of his versatility, and that's the kind of defensive back

1670
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 12: that Brandon really liked. One that can play Sapey, that

1671
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 12: can play Nickel, that might be able to play outside

1672
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 12: in the pinch, but they could use a big outside

1673
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 12: corner someone like Porter or more would fit. And then

1674
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 12: o also, you know, the idea of getting another edge,

1675
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 12: it just feels like it's a pretty deep edge class

1676
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 12: might be able to pick somebody up in the second.

1677
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 12: So maybe Kelijah Kanty if you want to stack him

1678
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 12: up in between, you know, along with Morgan Fox and

1679
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 12: really just get after that quarterback with Boson and Khalil

1680
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 12: Mack on the outside, I bet that certainly could be

1681
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 12: in play as well.

1682
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 2: Chargers radio play by play man Matt money Smith. We

1683
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 2: appreciate him. Money. We'll talk to you soon, pal, John

1684
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: take care, But all right, we think Matt money Smith

1685
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 2: from the Chargers, they select tight end Dalton Kincaid. We're

1686
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: sticking the AFC head to the AFC North. The Baltimore

1687
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 2: Ravens on the clock, and for that we welcome in

1688
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 2: front of the program. We've been hanging out with him

1689
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 2: at various NFL events for a very long time. From

1690
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens. He covers up for the team site,

1691
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 2: Garrett Downing, Garrett, how are you man? It's good to

1692
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: talk to you.

1693
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 7: Absolutely was that intro?

1694
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 20: Does that mean that we're old?

1695
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 7: You know, we've been.

1696
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 20: Hanging out for a very long time. Have we now

1697
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 20: entered the old category?

1698
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 2: Yes? Sadly, yes, unfortunately, I believe you are correct? All right,

1699
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: So I think this draft has gone fairly well for

1700
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: the Ravens. You have a lot of options here, Garrett.

1701
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: So what are the goals here for the Ravens in

1702
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: this first round as they try to figure out how

1703
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: they want to improve their team? We know that Lamar

1704
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: Jackson thing is kind of hovering over every thing. What's

1705
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: kind of the player pool and the positions that the

1706
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: Ravens will be kind of keeping an eye on as

1707
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: the picks click off the board.

1708
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 20: I think in two big needs for the Ravens going

1709
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 20: into the drafts or wide receiver.

1710
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 5: And then cornerback.

1711
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 20: At cornerback Marcus Peters remains an unrestricted free agent. Now

1712
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 20: he's been in Baltimore for a few years, but he's

1713
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 20: been unsigned at this point, so he may end up

1714
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 20: going elsewhere and so their time you know together could

1715
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 20: be done potentially, and so the Ravens will look to

1716
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,799
Speaker 20: address the cornerback spot and then at wide receiver. Obviously,

1717
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 20: the Ravens just added to Odell Beckham Junior, and so

1718
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 20: he's going to come in and bring him big boosts

1719
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 20: to this receiving corps, but he's on a one year contract.

1720
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 20: Whishaw Baden is coming off significant foot surgery that he

1721
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 20: went through last year that landed him on injured reserves,

1722
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 20: so and of course Beckham's coming back from the torn

1723
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 20: acl So if those guys are fully healthy, good to go,

1724
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 20: then I think that the receiving court is going to

1725
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 20: be in pretty good shape. But the receiver could be

1726
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 20: a move that they look to add to the you know,

1727
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 20: from a depth standpoint in the store term and then

1728
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 20: also in the long term to have somebody who they

1729
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 20: feel like could be a number one wide receiver to

1730
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 20: potentially pair with Bateman and who knows where things go

1731
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 20: with Deckham in the long term.

1732
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 8: But you know, I think that.

1733
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 7: Those are the two main positions.

1734
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 20: Cornerback and wide receiver that I would say that the

1735
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 20: Ravens are most likely to address in the first round.

1736
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and only three cornerbacks off the board here, Guys

1737
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: like Deanty Banks still there, Guys like Emmanuel Forbes still there.

1738
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: And then a wide receiver just won in Jacksonmith Smith

1739
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 2: and Jigba Garrett. So why don't you make the pick

1740
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: representing the Baltimore Ravens. Who do you select?

1741
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 20: If the board falls this way? I think that Jordan Addison,

1742
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 20: the wide receiver from pitt in USC, would be my pick.

1743
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 15: I mean, he had a.

1744
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 20: Monster season at pit a couple of years ago with

1745
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 20: Kenny Pickett a his quarterback. That transer of USC didn't

1746
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 20: put up quite as good a production last year, but

1747
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 20: still just a highly skilled receiver.

1748
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 10: You know.

1749
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 20: I think that he could make it to that range

1750
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 20: there because his combined times weren't off the charts. Who's

1751
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 20: still plenty fast, great ball control, good hands, really good

1752
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 20: route runner. I think he'd fit really nicely with Beckham

1753
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 20: and orshad Bateman, and that would give the Ravens a

1754
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 20: really talented receiving group in my mind, to go along

1755
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 20: with Mark Andrews. So I think Addison checks a lot

1756
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 20: of boxes for this team in terms of what they

1757
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 20: need and what he brings to the table. You know,

1758
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 20: Deontay Banks is somebody you mentioned at cornerback. I would

1759
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 20: have saw long, you know, think long and.

1760
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 15: Hard about him.

1761
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 20: Played right down the road here at Maryland. He's also

1762
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 20: a Baltimore kid, so you know, the hometown thing there

1763
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 20: that would kind of be tugging, I think at the

1764
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 20: heart strings a little bit, not to mention that you're

1765
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 20: getting a really good player at a position of need.

1766
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 20: So I was kind of looking at those two guys there,

1767
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 20: you know, and then just quickly Jay Flowers another receiver,

1768
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 20: big play, smaller receiver, but he has home run potential.

1769
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 20: I think that those two guys, Addison and Jay Flowers

1770
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 20: would be a tough decision for the Ravens. I leaned

1771
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 20: on Addison also basically a hometown kid. Grew up in Frederick,

1772
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 20: which is about forty five minutes from downtown Baltimore, So

1773
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 20: there's some connections there with those guys. But yeah, I

1774
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,560
Speaker 20: leaned Addison on this one based on how the board fell.

1775
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 3: In your draft.

1776
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 2: Garrett, good stuff, man. We appreciate the time, great information

1777
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 2: for your sake. Hopefully we get some kind of answer,

1778
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson sometime soon. Enjoy the rest of your offseason

1779
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: if you can, and good luck the rest of the way.

1780
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 20: Pal, all right, thanks for having a going all right.

1781
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: We thank Garrett Downing from the Baltimore Ravens. They go

1782
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: with Jordan Addison, wide receiver from USC debating between wide

1783
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 2: receiver and corner, they go receiver. And now we go

1784
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 2: to the Minnesota Vikings. So I know some people have

1785
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: mock players at both those positions to them and to

1786
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: select for them at twenty third. Overall, we bring in

1787
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: a refasan. He's an NFL reporter and does a lot

1788
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: of Viking stuff for the athletic a reef, John Schmelke here,

1789
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 2: appreciate you joining us. You know, the Vikings and Giants

1790
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 2: met in the playoffs last year. Giants won a one

1791
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: score game, something the Vikings had been very good at

1792
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: doing all year long. What are the goals here for

1793
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 2: the Vikings? Is this the beginning of a reset? Are

1794
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: they trying to build? What are the goals here for

1795
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: the Vikings with this first round pick, and what are

1796
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 2: the positions and kind of player pool they'll be looking.

1797
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 21: At well, generally speaking, I think the Vikings would want

1798
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 21: to look at wide receiver and cornerback like you mentioned,

1799
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 21: but they're going to be open to opportunities if they arrive,

1800
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 21: which is kind of what I hope to do here.

1801
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 21: You know, if you know, a premiere ed rusher falls,

1802
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 21: I'm certain that they would want to take advantage of that.

1803
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 21: If a premiere inside de fensive linemen falls, they'd want

1804
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 21: to take advantage of that. But I think, you know,

1805
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 21: Plan A is probably to figure out how to get

1806
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 21: more draft capital. They only have five picks in this

1807
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 21: year's draft. Plan B is to kind of fill out

1808
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 21: that receiver room, in that cornerback room, especially so you

1809
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 21: know players like you know, Cam Smith and Deontay Banks.

1810
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 21: You know, if one of those top three corners fall,

1811
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 21: players like Quinton Johnston, players like Jordan Adison who just

1812
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 21: went off your board, you know, those are all going

1813
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 21: to be in play, especially because they're going to be

1814
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 21: running a little bit more two wide receiver sets and

1815
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 21: so maybe they don't want those slot guys, and there's

1816
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 21: a ton of slot guys in the draft. So if

1817
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,759
Speaker 21: if you know, one of those those bigger outside receivers falls,

1818
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 21: it might be pretty tempting knowing that it would be

1819
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 21: really difficult to find that kind of position later on

1820
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 21: in the draft.

1821
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 2: All right, so why don't we make the pick? And

1822
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: then I'll ask a follow up a question here with

1823
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 2: the twenty third overall book to the Minnesota Vikings, a

1824
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: refassan from the Athletics selects Will Levis. I love it.

1825
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah.

1826
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 21: I mean I didn't. I didn't expect him to fall

1827
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 21: this far, and so I didn't really think about, you know,

1828
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 21: writing him up or talking about him too much. But

1829
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 21: you know, I looked at the board that you sent me,

1830
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 21: but who had gone off the board? I paid attention to,

1831
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 21: you know, the next couple of picks, and you know,

1832
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 21: it's kind of flabbergasted. I mean, this is a guy

1833
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 21: that a lot of people were mocking in the top ten,

1834
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 21: is a top four quarterback in this year's draft. I

1835
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 21: know a lot of people have reservations, and that's totally fair,

1836
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 21: But the Vikings don't have Kirk Cousins under contract next year.

1837
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 21: They turned down an extension that his team offered for

1838
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 21: forty million dollars a year, which, as you know, it's

1839
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 21: pretty similar to the extension that Daniel Jones, Scott and

1840
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 21: of course Jones be cousins in the playoffs this year.

1841
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 21: But I think, you know, it's fair to say that

1842
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 21: a lot of people are a little bit more confident

1843
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 21: in Cousins going forward. Problem is, he's thirty five, right,

1844
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 21: I think that that's a fair market deal. But it

1845
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 21: looks like the Vikings are trying to find ways to

1846
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 21: be both competitive now and set up for the future.

1847
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 21: And I think that this is a really great way

1848
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 21: to set up for the future. Maybe use picks later

1849
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 21: on in the draft that will allow them to address

1850
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 21: that cornerback and wide receiver position that they're a little

1851
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 21: bit concerned about. But I mean, this is a guy

1852
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 21: that for a lot of teams might be able to

1853
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,520
Speaker 21: start right away. He's played two years in an offensive

1854
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 21: system that very much matched the NFL. His huddles were

1855
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 21: exactly the same as West Coast offense huddles in the NFL.

1856
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 21: Pretty rare in college, and there is some seasoning to do.

1857
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 21: I mean, you know, he has to make sure that

1858
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 21: he makes the right decisions. He pushes a little bit

1859
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 21: too often, throws a couple too many interceptions, But I

1860
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 21: think you know, the ability to kind of sit behind

1861
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 21: a methodical quarterback like Cousins will allow him to kind

1862
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 21: of learn that skill set as he continues to build

1863
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 21: on the things that make him so good, really great arm,

1864
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 21: really great imbovisational capability, really aggressive player, really you know,

1865
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 21: confident in the exact system that the Vikings run. And

1866
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 21: so I think that you know, a play action heavy

1867
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 21: offense like this would be perfect for him in the

1868
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 21: long run.

1869
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 2: I just have one quick follow him, by the way,

1870
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 2: just for the record, I asked follow up questions to

1871
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 2: the Seahawks, Bucks, Commanders, Patriots, and Titans about really no

1872
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 2: quarterback guys, So so you are the only one and

1873
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: the Seahawks, by the way, so real quick, if you

1874
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: didn't go quarterback here the value a corner and receiver

1875
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 2: of you to choose between the Bankses and the Quentin Johnson's,

1876
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,480
Speaker 2: where would you have went with the Vikings.

1877
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 21: I have such a draft crush on Deontay Banks.

1878
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: I think me too, is.

1879
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, I think he's up there with that top three. Honestly,

1880
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 21: I think he just really good. Yeah, his athletic testing

1881
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 21: was through the roof, but I mean more important than

1882
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 21: any of that or his length or any of all

1883
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 21: that is just how smart he is, how well he

1884
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 21: plasters to some of the top receivers in the country.

1885
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 21: I mean, he just does such a great job of

1886
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 21: understanding what offenses want, what receivers want. He knows where

1887
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 21: the ball is. I know his interception numbers aren't up there,

1888
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 21: but you just watch him on film and he is

1889
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 21: hyper aware, hyper smart, super instinctive. I mean, he's everything

1890
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 21: you kind of want in a corner. He just doesn't

1891
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 21: have the same production profile as some of these guys.

1892
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 21: So he's the guy i'd go after. I do like

1893
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 21: Quinton Johnston a lot. You know, I think if Banks

1894
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 21: is off the board, if there's no quarterback available and

1895
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 21: they go for Quinton Johnston, you know, I'd like him there.

1896
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 21: When he was getting like top ten talk, you know,

1897
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 21: that was I was, you know, a little bit. I

1898
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 21: don't know that he's the route runner for that. I

1899
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 21: don't know that he's got a complete route tree, you know,

1900
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 21: I was a little bit. But at twenty three, I

1901
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 21: think that that's a great pick. So there are a

1902
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 21: lot of options available here for the Vikings A Reeve

1903
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 21: great stuff.

1904
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll touch base next week talk about your consensus

1905
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: board that you put together each year, which I think

1906
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: is a great tool for people that pay attention to

1907
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 2: the draft. We appreciate you making the pick for the Vikings.

1908
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon, right, thanks to look forward

1909
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: to it. Great a refassan from the Athletic. Now let's

1910
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: go to the next selection. The Jacksonville Jaguars are the

1911
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: twenty fourth overall pick. I think this is the third

1912
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 2: year Mike Deroko from ESPN has joined us. Mike, you

1913
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: just had Will Levis go off the board to the

1914
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 2: Minnesota Viking. Zarif was shocked that he was still there

1915
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 2: and he couldn't resist, which leaves another player potentially on

1916
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: the board for the Jaguars, who obviously do not have

1917
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: any interest in a quarterback here. So Jaguars make the

1918
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: playoffs last year, they make some noise in the playoffs.

1919
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 2: What are your main positions and player pool players of

1920
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: need that you're kind of looking for at the spot

1921
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 2: for the Jaguars at twenty four, Well.

1922
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 22: Their number one need is bolstering the pass rush. It

1923
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 22: was not very good last year. No one's really quite

1924
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 22: sure what Trayvon Walker is going to be yet. And

1925
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 22: Josh Allen, who was the seventh overall pick. I want

1926
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 22: to say in twenty nineteen. He's just a guy at

1927
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 22: this point. You know, he's not developed into the elite

1928
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 22: rusher that they had kind of hoped he would.

1929
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,560
Speaker 7: So you know, he's a six to seven.

1930
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 22: Sack a year guy. And look, you compete in the AFC. Okay,

1931
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 22: so you've got to deal with Mahomes and Jackson and

1932
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 22: Josh Allen and Burrow and Herbert and.

1933
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 2: The long list.

1934
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 22: You've got to get to the quarterback. And they just

1935
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 22: don't do it very well. So that's their number one need,

1936
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 22: you know, right after would be cornered. They need to

1937
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 22: find that third corner, a guy that they could put,

1938
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 22: you know, in the in the slot if needed. So

1939
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 22: those would be their top two. But but you know,

1940
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 22: edge rusher, if they aren't any better rushing the quarterback

1941
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 22: this year, then they're not going to get any further

1942
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 22: than they did last year. I mean, Pat Mahomes had

1943
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 22: the bad leg and they never touched him. So that's

1944
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:30,799
Speaker 22: that's got a change.

1945
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 2: No thought, you're going offensive side of the ball.

1946
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 22: You know, you could argue for a tackle, and you

1947
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 22: could argue for a tight end, but I guess the

1948
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 22: tight end class is regarded as pretty deep, so maybe

1949
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 22: make that a later priority. And you know, they have

1950
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 22: a guy on the roster and in Walker Little that

1951
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 22: can move right over to right tackle. That's what they

1952
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 22: drafted him to be. And they signed, you know, a

1953
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 22: couple veteran guys that can play some swing tackles. So

1954
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 22: you know, I think they're okay there. And at tight end,

1955
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 22: like I said, I think they're okay there. I mean,

1956
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 22: Evan Ingram is probably not going to sit out. I

1957
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 22: know he hasn't signed the franchise tag yet, but I

1958
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,440
Speaker 22: can't imagine him leaving eleven point four million dollars.

1959
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 15: On the table.

1960
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 22: So I think they'll be okay there at that, you know,

1961
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 22: in terms of the frontline guy at this year, and

1962
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 22: you know, I just think it has to be defense.

1963
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 2: All right. Let's make the pick here with the twenty

1964
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 2: fourth overall pick in the Giants Huddle podcast mock draft,

1965
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars, represented by Mike Derocco from ESPN, selects.

1966
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 22: Will McDonald edge rusher from Iowa State. Yeah, he may

1967
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 22: not be the biggest guy at sixty four to forty,

1968
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,759
Speaker 22: but he's explosive and he had a lot of production

1969
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,759
Speaker 22: at Iowa State, thirty four sacks and I think forty

1970
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 22: eight career games. He had two double digit sax seasons.

1971
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 22: You know, a ton of packles for lost both of

1972
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 22: those seasons as well, you know, and he's a guy

1973
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 22: that you.

1974
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 11: Know, the.

1975
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 22: Jags take Traylon Walkeran, it's all based on potential last

1976
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 22: year and he just really didn't have the production as

1977
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 22: a pass rusher behind him, so he struggled a little bit.

1978
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 22: But with McDonald, he's got that production behind him. He's

1979
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 22: got the athletics trades that you need. He's long, and

1980
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 22: he's athletic, and he's quick off the ball, and he's

1981
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 22: you know, he's a guy he really have to be

1982
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 22: a little bit stouter against the run. Yeah, he's probably

1983
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 22: gonna have to get stronger, you know, after his first season.

1984
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 22: But you know, look, get to the quarterback. That's the

1985
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 22: most important thing for this defense to start doing, and

1986
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 22: he will help them.

1987
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 2: How a tempted were you to take Deontay Banks there,

1988
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 2: because he's he's the guy to me that kind of

1989
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 2: has the siren on his head like, oh he's still

1990
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:47,440
Speaker 2: on the board.

1991
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 22: Yeah, I just I just think that the pass rush

1992
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 22: Edd this guy is too good to pass up. I

1993
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 22: really do think that, you know, Trent Balky the GM,

1994
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 22: he loves the big guys, and I I think if

1995
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 22: there's a tie with a big guy and a not

1996
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 22: big guy, he's always gonna go with the big guy.

1997
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 22: So that's kind of why I'm going with Donald McConnell.

1998
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 2: Now, look Will McDonald's dynamic. You'll love his spin move. Man,

1999
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 2: he is this inside spin move. It is nasty. Mike,

2000
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: we appreciate the time. Man, Thanks so much for joining

2001
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 2: us again this year. We'll talk to you soon.

2002
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 22: Okay, thanks a lot.

2003
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 2: Mike Derocco ESPN. For the Jacksonville Jaguars, they select Will

2004
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 2: McDonald edge rusher out of Iowa State. All right, we're

2005
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 2: gonna be joined by Paul Schwartz from the New York Post.

2006
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 2: For a second, we'll talk about the Giants, we'll make

2007
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 2: the pick, we'll talk about where we're at heading into

2008
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 2: the last couple of rounds. Let me reset what's happened

2009
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 2: in the draft very quickly. Here Panthers first overall, Bryce Young, Texans,

2010
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 2: second overall, C. J. Stroud Arizona Cardinals, third overall, Will

2011
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 2: Anderson Indianapolis Colts fourth, overall Indianapolis Colts, so they select

2012
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson fifth overall, Seattle Seahawks like Jayalen Carter, sixth overall,

2013
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions like Devon Witherspoon seventh overall. Las Vegas Raiders

2014
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 2: select Christian Gonzales eighth overall, and the Falcons select offensive

2015
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 2: lineman Peter Scarnsky ninth over Chicago Bears annoyed Skearonsky's not there,

2016
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 2: select Darnell Wright Philadelphia Eagles at ten, Tyree Wilson eleven,

2017
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,839
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans Paris Johnson offensive tackle at twelve, Houston Texans

2018
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 2: wide receiver Jackson Smith and Jigma to pair with C. J.

2019
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 2: Stroud thirteenth overall. The Jets select offensive lineman Roderick Jones

2020
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 2: at fourteenth overall. The New England Patriots, from courtesy of

2021
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 2: Mike Greece from ESPN selects Nolan Smith, edge rusher at fifteen.

2022
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers they select Lucas van Ness, defensive

2023
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 2: lineman from Iowa. Sixteenth overall. The Washington Commanders select Brian

2024
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Branch safety slash slock corner from Alabama seventeenth overall. The

2025
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers select Joey Porter, junior cornerback out of Penn State.

2026
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: Eighteenth overall, The Detroit Lions like Bijon Robinson running back

2027
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,839
Speaker 2: out of Texas nineteenth overall, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select

2028
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Anton Harrison left tackle. Seattle Seahawks at twenty they select

2029
01:34:56,040 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: Brian Brezee, defensive lineman out of Clemson at twenty first overall,

2030
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers they select Dalton Kincaid tight end out

2031
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 2: of Utah. Twenty second overall, the Baltimore Ravens select Jordan

2032
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: Addison wide receiver out of usc The Vikings at twenty

2033
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 2: three cannot resist the temptation of strong armed Will Levice,

2034
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 2: and then at twenty four the Jacksonville Jaguars they select

2035
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 2: Will McDonald, the pass rusher out of Iowa State. Now

2036
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 2: we bring in the man of the hour who giant

2037
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: fans have listened through probably an hour of this or

2038
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 2: so to get the pick from, and that is the

2039
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 2: one and only Paul Schwartz from the New York Post.

2040
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 2: Mister Schwatz, how are you?

2041
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 5: I'm trading out of the first round, talking guys next week.

2042
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: See you in all seriousness, Paul, With the way this

2043
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 2: board has dropped how much would you be working those

2044
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 2: phones to try to move back and get some extra

2045
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 2: draft capital.

2046
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 5: Well, they have ten picks, they don't need more picks.

2047
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 5: But you know, I think if the board happens exactly

2048
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 5: the way this happens, you know, the way the first

2049
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 5: twenty four picks, I could teach you, Shane, if someone

2050
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 5: wants to come up to twenty five and they're really

2051
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 5: really help bent on somebody, I could see him dropping

2052
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 5: down a little bit, maybe getting an extra pick on

2053
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 5: day two something like that. I think there would be

2054
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 5: some options here for the Giants. Certainly, I'd be surprised

2055
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 5: if there was one guy that they were absolutely positively circling,

2056
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 5: you know the way your board fell. And yeah, I mean,

2057
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 5: as long as there are options there for Joe Shane,

2058
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 5: I think he might do it. I really do you know,

2059
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 5: Joe Shane I think is a long game kind of thinker.

2060
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Paul, all right, So let's look at

2061
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,839
Speaker 2: the Giants roster before we start talking about prospects. Actually

2062
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 2: in the draft, you look at the Giants roster, what's

2063
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 2: their biggest needs? Where are you most focused on in

2064
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 2: this draft to try to improve the roster?

2065
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 5: Well, I think you can make a case, a strong case.

2066
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 5: I think I could make a case that cornerback is

2067
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 5: the greatest.

2068
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 10: Need on the roster.

2069
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 5: Who's the second starting cornerback?

2070
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 10: Right?

2071
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 5: Most teams need three or four of them?

2072
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 10: Right? You say who?

2073
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 4: You know?

2074
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 5: It's not like the old starting pitching right, who's the

2075
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 5: top two?

2076
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 4: No?

2077
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 5: No, no, no, who's three? And who's four?

2078
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 10: You know?

2079
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 5: And not who's your closer? Who's your seventh inning, eighth inning,

2080
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 5: ninth inning? So who's your second corner, third corner, and

2081
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 5: fourth corner? I'm not sure I can say who the

2082
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 5: second corner is right now. So I think there's a

2083
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,799
Speaker 5: job open now, you know, the Aaron Robinson's of the world,

2084
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 5: the Cordell Flats of the world. Nick McLeod, you know, okay,

2085
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 5: maybe maybe, but maybe not. So I think that is

2086
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 5: a glaring need. I certainly think receiver. You know, Joe

2087
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 5: Shane laughed at us, kind of joked a little bit,

2088
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 5: uh not long ago when he said, I understand the

2089
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 5: obsession there is at wide receiver. I think they need

2090
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 5: another wide receiver. They need a starting center. Maybe maybe

2091
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 5: Ben Brettison could be the starting center. Maybe Shane Lemue

2092
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 5: can be the starting center. But right now, I think

2093
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 5: you can say that that's a spot that's a question mark.

2094
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 5: They need a defensive lineman. They don't need a starting

2095
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 5: defensive lineman, they need backup help there. I think those

2096
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 5: are the major hot button points there.

2097
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 2: Do you feel like, based on what Joe Shane has

2098
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 2: told us about building rosters in premium positions, that he

2099
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 2: would take a center with their first round pick.

2100
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't.

2101
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 5: I mean, look, now, do they have the kid from

2102
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 5: Minnesota as their fifteenth best player in the draft. I

2103
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 5: don't think so, but they could, right you know, they could, certainly,

2104
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 5: But I don't think the way you build a roster, no,

2105
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:31,719
Speaker 5: I don't.

2106
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 14: Look, he signed.

2107
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 5: John Feliciano last year for low money and he ended

2108
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 5: up being the starting center. You know, we've seen Sean

2109
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 5: o'harab be a starting center for a super Bowl team.

2110
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 5: He was picked up off the scrap he basically and

2111
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 5: was a terrific player, was an undrafted player. So no,

2112
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 5: I would be surprised. Now, I wouldn't be surprised on

2113
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 5: Day two if they pick a center. Wouldn't expect it,

2114
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 5: but I wouldn't be surprised by it. But I'd be

2115
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 5: surprised if they picked the center with number twenty five.

2116
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 2: I completely agree. All right, let's talk about some of

2117
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 2: the prospects here, Paul. I know you're not a draftnick,

2118
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 2: but at this point you have done a ton of

2119
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 2: work on some of the guys the giants could be

2120
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 2: interested in. Who are some of the guys? Where you

2121
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 2: look at the guys remaining on the board and you're like,

2122
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 2: all right, that's like a big flashing red light that

2123
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 2: says the giants will be looking at this guy.

2124
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 5: Well, there's two receivers, right, I mean I took a

2125
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 5: quick look at your board. There's two receivers. There's Quintin

2126
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 5: Johnston of a TCU and z Flowers of Boston College are.

2127
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 10: Still available, correct, yep?

2128
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 2: Correct?

2129
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 10: Right? And the Hyatt from Tennessee is still available. Yep.

2130
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 5: As expected, the cornerbacks came off pretty quickly. Now, Emmanuel

2131
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 5: Forbes from Mississippi State is still around.

2132
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, And so is Deontay Banks.

2133
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 5: So is Deontay Banks. You know, I mean, I think

2134
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 5: those four guys we just mentioned, I mentioned, and you corroborated.

2135
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 5: I think those four would have to be in the discussion.

2136
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know what order they would be.

2137
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 5: Let me think, you know, I mean, I mean, you

2138
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 5: know the Minnesota.

2139
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 2: John Michael Schmenz, Yeah yeah.

2140
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:10,919
Speaker 10: John Michael Schmidtz.

2141
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 5: You know, now, let's not put him at twenty five.

2142
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 5: So I would say no, although I think he's a

2143
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 5: heck of a player. And you know, you'll mention all

2144
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 5: these guys if you say, which of the which are

2145
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 5: the guys we just mentioned, could you put in and

2146
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:28,719
Speaker 5: start day one? It's probably Schmidt's, you know, certainly. Possibly

2147
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 5: it's Schmid's, you know, certainly. Yeah so, But but I

2148
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 5: just like you said, positional value, I don't see that.

2149
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 10: I think that group.

2150
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if it's Look this

2151
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 5: past several years, John, it was much easier, right, Yeah,

2152
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 5: five and seven you had you had three, you know

2153
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 5: what I mean. You know, if we couldn't get ten,

2154
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 5: you know, five or six names and be right on

2155
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:51,759
Speaker 5: one of them, there, we were in bad shape.

2156
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 4: You know.

2157
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 5: Now I could give you four names, and I think

2158
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 5: I could be wrong on all four. But I think

2159
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 5: cornerback and receiver that's what I would bet would be

2160
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 5: at number twenty five. That's my thinking right now. Unless

2161
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 5: there's so you know, there's an edge rusher that they

2162
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 5: love that I don't know about. You know that they

2163
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 5: just say, no, that's a position of great value. We're

2164
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 5: just taking them.

2165
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And that's where I was going to

2166
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 2: go with my follow up before you made your pick here, Paul.

2167
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 2: You know Joe Shane has talked about the need to

2168
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 2: improve depth on the defensive line. You know, after Dexter

2169
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 2: Lawrence Leonard Williams is on a one year contract as

2170
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 2: he's oger Laurie had had some injuries. Kavon Thibodeau obviously

2171
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 2: had a strong rookie year, especially the way he closed it.

2172
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 2: So a guys like Miles Murphy is still on the

2173
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 2: board here, I'm not sure if that gets you excited.

2174
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 2: But guys like Nolan Smith and Lucas van Ness are

2175
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 2: gone and I don't think they'll be there on draft

2176
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 2: day either, would do you think maybe like a bigger

2177
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:49,560
Speaker 2: defensive lineman like a Elijah Cansey, he's there if you

2178
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 2: want to plug her. Like Mazzi Smith, he's on the board.

2179
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 2: Do you think any of those guys are good enough

2180
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 2: where you would think it would make the Giants pass

2181
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 2: up a wide receiver or corner because I don't think so.

2182
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 10: I don't think so either. I think the only guy

2183
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 10: you mentioned.

2184
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 5: That I think possibly is Cancy. Now we do have

2185
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 5: to look at this, right, I mean we have to

2186
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 5: try to look at this the way Joe Shane and

2187
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 5: Brian dabol and you know, their personnel people are looking

2188
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 5: at it, and they look at it. They're not looking

2189
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 5: at it for twenty twenty three. Who helps us?

2190
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 10: Of course part of it.

2191
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,759
Speaker 5: But so, I mean, is there a possibility that Leonard

2192
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 5: Williams is not on this team in twenty twenty four?

2193
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 2: Sure?

2194
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,600
Speaker 5: Right, absolutely, sure, it's a possibility.

2195
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 10: He's got a massive cap number.

2196
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 5: He's a good player, really good player.

2197
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 10: They like him a lot, you know.

2198
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 5: You know, the previous regime signed him to a massive

2199
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 5: contract and.

2200
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:43,440
Speaker 10: He missed some games.

2201
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 5: This past year. You know, is that a red flag

2202
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,600
Speaker 5: or was it just that he missed some games? So

2203
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 5: you know, you could draft a guy like Cancy and say, well,

2204
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 5: you know, I could ask, well, what are you doing?

2205
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 5: He's just going to be in a rotation. Well he'll

2206
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 5: be in a rotation. He'll play thirty forty percent of

2207
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 5: the snaps this year. If one of those two guys

2208
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 5: goes down Dexter, Lawrence or Leonard. We can plug him

2209
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 5: in there and then next year he'll probably be a

2210
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 5: starter alongside our you know, ninety million dollar contract guy

2211
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 5: Dexta lines. Okay, that makes sense to me. You know,

2212
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 5: that makes sense to me, But I probably won't go

2213
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 5: there with my pick though.

2214
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 2: How important and will its sway them to try to

2215
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 2: help Daniel as much as they can. If they're sitting

2216
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 2: there and they're looking at a wide out, they're looking

2217
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 2: at a corner and they have relatively similar grades, how

2218
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 2: much is they we want to help Daniels, since we

2219
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 2: just invested so much in him, going to dominate that

2220
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 2: conversation and decision making process, do you think.

2221
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it's exactly like you say, where

2222
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 5: they sit around and say, okay, guys, how do we

2223
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 5: help Daniel? It's you have to look at who's making

2224
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 5: the decision right. Brian Daboll. Brian Daboll, he wants to

2225
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 5: throw the ball right.

2226
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:55,799
Speaker 13: We were all we.

2227
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 5: Were all shocked last year when they ran the ball

2228
01:43:58,320 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 5: so often.

2229
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 10: That is not his petit. He did what he needed

2230
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 10: to do to win games.

2231
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 2: No, at the end, at the end of the year, Paul,

2232
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 2: when things started going better, what do they do a

2233
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 2: lot more of They threw it.

2234
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 5: They threw it now. They ran it too much with Daniels,

2235
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 5: you know, they ran it too much with him, and

2236
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 5: that helped him get some more money in his contract.

2237
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 10: But I don't think they want to do that. You know,

2238
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 10: a heavy duty.

2239
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 5: Dose of that, that's a recipe for getting hurt. I

2240
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:26,719
Speaker 5: know Joe Shane saw that with Josh Allen.

2241
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 10: You know, he got hurt.

2242
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 5: Early in his career because he was running all the time.

2243
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 5: You know, Joe Shane has said to me. We always

2244
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 5: told him we need to run more prudently. You need

2245
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 5: to run more smartly or just run lets. It's hard

2246
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 5: to tell those guys to do that. You know. They

2247
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 5: want to get every first down. That's the same thing

2248
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 5: with Daniel. So it's not so much we need to

2249
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 5: help Daniel. It's like, how do we help us win?

2250
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 5: We want to throw it more, we want to be

2251
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 5: more explosive, we want to get down the field. We've

2252
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 5: committed all this money to Daniel Jones. Now for Pete's sake,

2253
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 5: let's use them the way we want to use them.

2254
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 5: We could have paid someone a lot less money to

2255
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 5: hand the ball off a lot more. Let's get it

2256
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,640
Speaker 5: and throw it. And I think that's what they're going

2257
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 5: to be motivated as long as the board matches up.

2258
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,719
Speaker 2: Ah, well, let's see if it does with the twenty

2259
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:16,799
Speaker 2: fifth and final pick, thank God. In our twenty twenty

2260
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 2: three Giants Tole podcast for quarter Back Draft, Paul Schwartz

2261
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 2: from The New York Post selects.

2262
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 10: What time did you start this draft?

2263
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 2: By the way, two days. I've been doing it for

2264
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 2: two days, so I am ready for it to be over.

2265
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 2: But I love doing it. It's a great process. But

2266
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 2: as a pain of my re read, Paul, and I'm

2267
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 2: happy you're the last person I'm talking to to get

2268
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 2: this pick in and I'm going to pray now for

2269
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 2: the thirty six hours between now and when we post it,

2270
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 2: trades don't happen because at this point I'm not redoing

2271
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 2: anything and it's going up the way it is.

2272
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 10: Well, you know what I just chopped on here.

2273
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 5: I haven't invested two days in this, so I got

2274
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 5: like another ninety minutes of content. I'd like to talk

2275
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 5: this out before it.

2276
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 2: I am shaking my head, and so is Piercing, our producer.

2277
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 2: So no you're gonna be make the pick now. Your

2278
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 2: time on the clock has reached zero and the Cowboys

2279
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 2: are ready to turn it a card, so you better

2280
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 2: make your pick better.

2281
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 10: It's like the pitch count.

2282
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 4: You just charged me a strike here.

2283
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 2: I did absolutely.

2284
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 5: Okay with the pick number twenty five, The New York

2285
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 5: Giants select wide receiver They Flowers of Boston College. I

2286
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 5: think he's a terrific player. Now do I love picking

2287
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 5: a five foot nine receiver at number twenty five? I

2288
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 5: do not, But I think this guy is. And also

2289
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 5: I'm a little worried about duplication with Wandale Robinson. But

2290
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 5: this guy is electric. He's very productive from what I hear,

2291
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 5: and he is an incredible competitor, self starter, no.

2292
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 2: Red flags, great kid too.

2293
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 5: He can return punts. Okay, so you say, okay, maybe

2294
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 5: Wandale's ahead of him. Now you know, Sterling Shepherd is

2295
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 5: coming back. We all love Sterling. Will he make it back,

2296
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 5: We don't know. Will he be on the team next year,

2297
01:46:58,240 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 5: We don't know.

2298
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 10: Will he be on the this year?

2299
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 4: We don't know.

2300
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:02,679
Speaker 5: Wandale is coming off an injury.

2301
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 14: We hope he's okay.

2302
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 5: This guy is a slot receiver. This guy can run

2303
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 5: jet sweeps. He's not small, he's just short. You know,

2304
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 5: he's five foot nine. He's not tall, but he's got

2305
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 5: stature to him. And I'm thinking back to Brian Daball,

2306
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 5: like he said, he wants to run place Mike Cosca.

2307
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 5: You know, you give Mike Coska this guy and say

2308
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 5: find a place for him. Mike Coska is gonna say,

2309
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 5: I'll sleep on it, and I'll have thirty places to

2310
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 5: put him by tomorrow morning, you know what I mean.

2311
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 5: So Quinton Johnson is bigger, he looks more the part

2312
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna pick him coming off the bus. But I

2313
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 5: think Jay Flowers is a better player. Okay, Quinton Johnson

2314
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 5: may be more potential because of his size. I think

2315
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 5: Jay Flowers is a better player right now, and I

2316
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 5: think he'd be a lot of fun in this office.

2317
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 2: I agree with your analysis completely. I agree. I also

2318
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 2: think Flowers is a better player than Quentin Johnson. I

2319
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 2: want to get back to the to the duplication thing, Paul,

2320
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 2: do you think and look, you talk to the front

2321
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 2: office and the coaching staff, you tell them what you

2322
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 2: want on a wide receivers. The first thing they say

2323
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 2: is you want guys that can separate, right, which means

2324
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 2: you want rat runners and guys that are fast, and

2325
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 2: Flowers checks both those boxes more so than Quentin Johnson. Right,

2326
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 2: But how do you think Flowers and Wando Robinson, to

2327
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 2: the point you made at the beginning of your explanation there,

2328
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 2: do fit together whenever Wan Dell is recovered from that

2329
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 2: ACL injury.

2330
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 10: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

2331
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 5: They also want versatle guys, right, They want guys like

2332
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 5: and I don't know if Quentin Johnson is the versatile guy.

2333
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 5: You know, you can line them up, you know, you know, I.

2334
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 10: Think, say Flowers, you can line up. I think he

2335
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 10: could be an outside receiver.

2336
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 4: I do.

2337
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 5: I think he's more suited to the slot.

2338
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 4: But look, I think we.

2339
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 5: Have seen I don't know, I'll throw a percentage of it.

2340
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 5: We've seen forty percent of what Dave Bowl and COFKA

2341
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 5: want to do. Would you think that's fair considering the

2342
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:54,600
Speaker 5: limitations last year? You know, maybe some offensive line personnel

2343
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 5: having you know, you know half what you know picking

2344
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 5: up Isaiah Hodgens eight in the season and then he's

2345
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,599
Speaker 5: your your number one receiver, you know what I mean?

2346
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 5: You know, these are all things that worked against creativity.

2347
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:12,679
Speaker 5: You know, Kenny Golladay, Bust, you know Kadarius Tony, you know, Bust, hurt, traded.

2348
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 5: I mean, these are all big problems here, you know,

2349
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 5: big problems. So I don't know, you know, and I'm

2350
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,559
Speaker 5: I would think if I sat down with with Coska

2351
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 5: and Gable and said, look, tell me why you're why

2352
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 5: not Zay Flowers and Wandale Robinson are not duplications, they

2353
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 5: would probably say, well, there is some duplication, but that's okay,

2354
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

2355
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 4: So now we have.

2356
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,879
Speaker 5: Two guys with skill sets like that that the defense

2357
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 5: has to worry about. You know, We're not gonna line

2358
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 5: them up right next to each other and have them

2359
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 5: run the same route. One guy's a slot on one side,

2360
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 5: one guy's a slot on the other side. One guy's

2361
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 5: a slot the other guys outside. He comes in motion.

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01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's a lot they can do

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01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 5: with both of them. Like I said, it's not a

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01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 5: perfect pick. I wish he was six foot one, you

2365
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 5: know what I mean. But if he was six foot one,

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01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,879
Speaker 5: he'd be a top ten pick, not pick twenty five.

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01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 1: One hundred.

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01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 2: All right, Paul, before we say goodbye, now, the Giants

2369
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: with two Day two picks. Here you have the wide

2370
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 2: receiver off the board. Like we talked about, corner and

2371
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 2: center would would probably be if the board matches up.

2372
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 2: Obviously you aren't going to reach here for a player

2373
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,799
Speaker 2: that's not good enough. Would those be the two positions

2374
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 2: that would be top of mind for you here as

2375
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 2: the Giants move forward?

2376
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 5: Well, I think defensive line, as you mentioned, you know depth,

2377
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 5: You know I would not discount defensive line there. You know,

2378
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 5: I don't know about center. You know, if Joe Tipman

2379
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 5: from Wisconsin is there, they state we're taking him. You know,

2380
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 5: he's a he's a he's a.

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01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 10: Day two high, Day two guy. We're taking him.

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01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 5: He can, you know, battle for a starting spot. You

2383
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 5: know they're gonna have to say this, Joe Tipman give

2384
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 5: us a lot more than Brent Bregerson does or Shane Lemute?

2385
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,679
Speaker 5: Does you know to make him our second round pick?

2386
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know, you know, I I that you know,

2387
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 5: I mean I I don't want to be afraid to

2388
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 5: say I don't know that. You know Joe Shane would

2389
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 5: look at me after the draft to say we weren't

2390
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 5: taking a a center with one of our top sixty picks.

2391
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 5: We just weren't going to do that, you know at

2392
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 5: this point. You know, I don't know that I think

2393
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 5: it would make sense, you know, I do. You know

2394
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 5: second round they got Chris Sny great. They also got

2395
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 5: Western Richburg a center in his second round, not as great.

2396
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 5: You know, each player is different, though. Cornerback, if there's

2397
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 5: somebody left, yeah, yeah, I I could see that.

2398
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 14: What do you think about the guy?

2399
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 10: I kind of like him.

2400
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna put him in one of my mocks.

2401
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if he'll last. Let me get the

2402
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 5: name for you. What about the cornerbacks from Utah Clark

2403
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:35,600
Speaker 5: Phillips the third.

2404
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's more of a slock guy than

2405
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:39,760
Speaker 2: he is an outside guy, and I'm not sure the

2406
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 2: Giants necessarily need that. I would think second round maybe

2407
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 2: like a Darius rush sh Julius Brents. Those guys could

2408
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 2: be there. I don't know if Cam Smith's getting down

2409
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: that far. I know he has some walf the field

2410
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 2: stuff teams that are concerned about too. Those would be

2411
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 2: a couple of the guys I would think about there.

2412
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 2: If you want to get into the third round, maybe

2413
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 2: like a Riley Moss out of Iowa somebody like that.

2414
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 2: So it is. It is a pretty deep class, Paul.

2415
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 2: So I think you will be able to find the

2416
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 2: corner on day two. To be honest with you, I do.

2417
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:06,719
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2418
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, look, the Giants a few years ago

2419
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 5: thought they found the corner in Aaron Robinson on the

2420
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 5: third round, right, and they loved him. And he can't

2421
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,600
Speaker 5: get on the field. So you know, you never know

2422
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 5: what these players.

2423
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 4: You never know.

2424
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I mean I think if they

2425
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 5: would get a receiver and a corner and a center

2426
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 5: in the first three picks, in whatever order you want,

2427
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 5: not center first, I would think that would be position value,

2428
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 5: need draft value.

2429
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 10: I think that would make.

2430
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 5: A lot of sense.

2431
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, Paul. Good stuff. We'll see at

2432
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 2: the Joe Shane press conference on Thursday afternoon, and we'll

2433
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 2: talk to you soon.

2434
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:45,719
Speaker 5: All right, John, take care. Thanks for having me.

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01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:47,600
Speaker 2: Paul Schwartz in the New York Post. You thank you

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Speaker 2: I was just teasing. This is a labor of love.

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01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 2: I love doing this mock draft every year. It's a

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01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 2: lot of fun. Hope you guys got a lot out

2443
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 2: of it. I learned about some of these team needs

2444
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:10,719
Speaker 2: more than I knew before. I think corners an offensive

2445
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 2: line are gonna go a lot faster than people think.

2446
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:14,680
Speaker 2: I do not think Deontay Banks will be on the

2447
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 2: board when the Giants select at twenty five. When this

2448
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 2: happens in real life, Michael Mayer still on the board

2449
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 2: is interesting. If the Giants needed somebody at tight end,

2450
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 2: I think he could have been an option there. But

2451
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 2: I do think a wide receiver will be there, like

2452
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if you know one of Quentin johnson'

2453
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,120
Speaker 2: z A Flowers and Jordan Addison were not on the

2454
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 2: board for the Giants of twenty five. I think one

2455
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 2: of them will be there, so I think it'll be interesting.

2456
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 2: I think the gihnts have a player there, But I'm

2457
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:41,600
Speaker 2: with Paul. I would always think about moving down to

2458
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 2: and seeing if you could pick up a extra Day

2459
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 2: two pick at some point to make that selection there.

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01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 2: All right, everybody, thank you? For being with us again.

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01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 2: I am John Schmelk. Our reporter's mock draft is at

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