WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 49: Cold Front

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Happy Half Hour with your friends

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<v Speaker 1>Kristen Balboni, Will Brian and Darren Gamp. It's that time

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. Welcome to the Happy Half Hour podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with your friends Will, Darren, Kristen and producer Matt Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we started recording, we were just talking about everything

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<v Speaker 1>that has happened since we last recorded this podcast, which

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<v Speaker 1>was like two years ago and two years ago a

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<v Speaker 1>k a. Last Wednesday, Darren, will you give us a

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<v Speaker 1>rundown of all the things that have happened in a

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<v Speaker 1>one week span. Yeah, since we recorded this podcast a

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<v Speaker 1>week ago. Mick Jagger found the Thirsty Beaver. The Rolling

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<v Speaker 1>Stones played a concert in Bank of America Stadium, which

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing. The Panthers went to Dallas and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got knocked around pretty good down there, and oh, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, they came home and traded for Stefine Gilmore,

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<v Speaker 1>the former NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>not too much. We're gonna tell all Panthers in just

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<v Speaker 1>a second, but only because Darren has been scooting around

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<v Speaker 1>Bank of America Stadium NonStop the last week covering all

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<v Speaker 1>those stories. Did the Rolling Stones play any of your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite songs, your deep cuts. They have not had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to ask you did. Actually, the old, the old

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Richard's classic Before They Make Me Run was part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Keith section in the middle of the concert there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was great and it and as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the the internet, it's an amazing place full

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<v Speaker 1>of all kind of neat stuff and many terrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a website I go to a lot called

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<v Speaker 1>cent list dot fm, and it had the cent list

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<v Speaker 1>from the ninety four concert I saw in Columbia, South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina with the Rolling Stones. And as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>they played twenty three songs that night. In four twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven years later they played nineteen so four or fewer

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<v Speaker 1>songs from twenty three to nineteen and twenty seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Those old guys are really slowing down. So I have

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<v Speaker 1>a I have a scoop for you. I've heard from

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<v Speaker 1>an inside source that before the concert, when they were

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<v Speaker 1>going over you know, oh yeah, we you know we

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<v Speaker 1>played here in um in ninety seven, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>first concert here. Uh, the Mick Jagger was the one

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<v Speaker 1>that remembered that they played here in nineteen sixty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody else on the crew or the people working here

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<v Speaker 1>had any idea that they were here in sixty five.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh yeah, I remember the old Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>colisseum down independence, No, no, no, no, don't give me shelter,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's all I gonna get. But anyway, we should

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<v Speaker 1>take the thirsty beaver. Now I founded a little German.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm not, I can't do any accents at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I really outside of Darren. I can do Darren's act. No,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Well, well, we'll save that for later. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do the I'll do the um special things to do

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<v Speaker 1>in Darren's accent at the end of the show. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>no one knows what that means except for well's got

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<v Speaker 1>a segment coming and he'll do all right, I'm holding

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<v Speaker 1>you to that map. Please clip off the well Mick

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<v Speaker 1>Jagger impression. Let's all right. So now that we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to the important news that everyone came here for, which

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<v Speaker 1>was Darren's review of the Rolling Stones concert, let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Stefan Gilmore. I mean, yeah, what a whirlwind

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days, at least for us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as we started to find out about it, and Darren

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<v Speaker 1>especially for you, What have you gleaned from from walking

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<v Speaker 1>around the building making your rounds, Like when you see

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<v Speaker 1>Darren on a mission, like I said, at the stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>you see him headed down to the second floor. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what's on. He's going down to get some really

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<v Speaker 1>good information. So what have you gathered? Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this thing came together fairly quickly. They had been interested

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<v Speaker 1>in Stefan over the course of the summer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>at different points had made calls and it was kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, exploratory at that point. But this thing ramped

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<v Speaker 1>up in a hurry. And and the short version is

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<v Speaker 1>as after the Patriots put out word that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to cut him. You know, that's like dogs flushing

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<v Speaker 1>birds out of the underbrush. I mean they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't they were going to try to do exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what they did, and put out word that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to cut him, and got a bunch of phone calls,

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<v Speaker 1>and rather than wait and hope that Stefan we just

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<v Speaker 1>want to sign with his hometown team, they went ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and gave up that sixth round pick in three, which

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<v Speaker 1>is as close to nothing as you can actually give

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<v Speaker 1>someone to, you know, acquire a player of this caliber. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think there are reasons to be interested

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<v Speaker 1>in how Stefine comes in. I mean, obviously hadn't played

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<v Speaker 1>this year, he had the quad injury last year. But

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand nineteen, not seven years ago, not ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Two years ago, this man was the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>defensive Player of the Year and you got him for

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<v Speaker 1>a sixth round pick in Yeah, and just in case

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<v Speaker 1>any Panthers fans, which I'm sure you have if you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the podcast, you're obviously dialed in with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the best information, But just in case anyone um isn't

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<v Speaker 1>up to date, the Patriots cut him from everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we're hearing or wanted to cut him, uh for for

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<v Speaker 1>cap purposes and for contract purposes, not because they think

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<v Speaker 1>anything is Um is wrong with him or they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want him to contribute. It was they were what like

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars under the salary cap, needed to make

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<v Speaker 1>some moves, and he couldn't come to an agreement contract

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<v Speaker 1>and he and he won't be able to play until

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<v Speaker 1>Week seven, and he was going into the final year

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<v Speaker 1>of his contract, so they wanted to extend. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do something to spread out cap Hit couldn't come

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<v Speaker 1>to any kind of agreement on that because he still

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<v Speaker 1>wants to get paid at the level commensurate with his abilities,

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<v Speaker 1>and they weren't able to reach common ground on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to know he's a hometown guy. How

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<v Speaker 1>much does that matter to Panthers fans? I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing he's a rock Hill guy. He lives in the

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte area when he's uh, when he's not in seas

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<v Speaker 1>And what does it mean to to Panthers fans or

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<v Speaker 1>especially you know, the South Carolina portion of Panthers fans

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<v Speaker 1>to have a guy like this joining the Panthers. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's huge And and having spent fourteen years of

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<v Speaker 1>my life working for the rock Hill Herald, I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the other hometown guy in Football City, USA

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty excited about this, and they should be. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of their own. And rock Hill has a

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<v Speaker 1>long history of of pumping guys into the NFL. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Stefens far from the only you know, first round pick

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<v Speaker 1>to ever come from such a small town, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a culture of it down there, and and it matters,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a huge deal. And I remember I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking back through my files and I sent Will a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of the story this morning before I put it

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, before Stefan was drafted. That was right before

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<v Speaker 1>I left the newspaper in two thousand twelve. Um before

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<v Speaker 1>he was drafted by Buffalo in twelve. I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>him in a bunch of the other rock Hill NFL

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<v Speaker 1>people and just about this latest link in the chain,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy eyes from that town who we're gonna make good.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of defensive backs, great names, I mean, from

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Sanford to Jeff Burrows to Sheldon Brown, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>so many guys. Jear Old, Gerald Dixon, Ernest Dixon. Ernest

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<v Speaker 1>Dixon was actually here briefly, I think in ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in training camp from Fort Mill, but at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>never been a guy from York County on this roster

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<v Speaker 1>prior to now. And you asked what does it mean

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<v Speaker 1>to Panthers fans? I mean, also what does it mean

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<v Speaker 1>to him? You know, I think that's important to be

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<v Speaker 1>especially as you know this year goes on and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what sort of contract negotiations go on for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how how much does that factor into uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what he can do to stay here versus,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go somewhere else as a free agent. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, I mean he lives right next to

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Fitterer and w Will I wasn't I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to say it, and we'll just put that out on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast and Dan Morgan. Apparently they all live on

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<v Speaker 1>the same block. Their their car pool and work. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from now, that'll be fun during contract negotiations, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we need we need video of that. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>they'll sing when they car pool. I think they might.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they received sources close to me tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, we'll see. I mean it's gonna be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it obviously matters. One of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was kind of funny. There's a perception outside of

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte that no one would want to come here, and

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<v Speaker 1>that the Patriots had somehow done this man a disservice

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<v Speaker 1>by trading him to a place rather than allowing him

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<v Speaker 1>to choose his next destination. It's like, listen, he might

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<v Speaker 1>have chosen this anyway. This is home. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like the team's awful or anything. I mean, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing okay right now. They could certainly use somebody likes

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<v Speaker 1>to find Gilmore, but every team in the league could do.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody likes to find Gilmore. Let's not kid ourselves. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was kind of funny when they

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<v Speaker 1>said they did this man wrong, and he might have

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<v Speaker 1>actually preferred it come down this way than get in

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where a place not Charlotte was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be calling and and making the offer to bring him in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are worse places to be, That's darned sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to just go back to Darren talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>article he wrote on Stefan Gilmour in two thousand twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it on Twitter, he said it to Will

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't send it to me beforehand, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought I saw it on Twitter, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I thought. I was like, gosh, how good

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to be to just dig up an

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<v Speaker 1>article from almost ten years ago and be like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is good. I'm going to post it. I would hope

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<v Speaker 1>nobody sees my stuff from two thousand twelve. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Laron strikes again. I was at the peak

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<v Speaker 1>of my game. So now you're on a team friendly

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<v Speaker 1>deal here, you know your career m guy veteran present. Now, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk about some of the impetus for signings

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<v Speaker 1>to find Gilmore and clearly, as we said, cannot play

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<v Speaker 1>until week seven because he's on the publist. But that

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys game, you know they're they are looking ahead at

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<v Speaker 1>at help in this secondary um and I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the way that the Cowboys game went,

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<v Speaker 1>UM could use it. Yeah. I mean, well you could

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<v Speaker 1>use the help stop in the run. That's the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing everybody's been talking about this week. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think in the way they play defense and the

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<v Speaker 1>way they want to play defense, you've got to have

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<v Speaker 1>multiple guys who can cover. They've been really clear that C. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Henderson was a trade for long term, not short term.

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<v Speaker 1>J C. Horn cover. So this gives c. J. Henderson

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to learn this defense which is new to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and get acclimated and get his feet underneath him a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit so he can be more comfortable. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>can put starting in week seven. Now you can put

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<v Speaker 1>Dante Jackson, who speaking of guys at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>his game right now, he's playing his best football right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Dante Stefan, Gilmore and A. J. Boy A and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better than and okay, where are we gonna

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<v Speaker 1>And this is nothing against any of these guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>Rashaan Melvin is a is an old vet who's a

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<v Speaker 1>journeyman who's been on a lot of different teams. Started

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<v Speaker 1>this season on the practice started season on the practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad and got caught up a couple of weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>then they put him on the active roster. He's he's good,

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<v Speaker 1>he's somebody they want. But other than that, it's Keith Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a rookie at Stanley, Thomas Oliver, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>seventh round pick a year ago. None of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are Stefan Gilmore. And I just think that the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to add a pedigreed corner so that right now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was so telling last night that when

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<v Speaker 1>somebody asked fitter or about j. C. Horne and his

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<v Speaker 1>injury got the broken foot. It's gonna be two or

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<v Speaker 1>three months probably, it's what most people think. And somebody

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<v Speaker 1>asked Scott if it was absolutely season ending, and he said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily. We'll see how he comes back, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're playing on, going to the playoffs. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>so casual the way Scott said it. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone from a month ago no one knew what

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<v Speaker 1>to expect from this team to now they're thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>going to the playoffs. And if you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of team, you need that kind of secondary. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you talk to to Dan Morgan, who I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he will say it you. He can't go a few

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<v Speaker 1>sentences without saying the goal is to win a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love it. I mean, he's staying it multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>Um uh, you know a sentence when he when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking to him, which which I love to hear. And

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<v Speaker 1>it needs someone that understands the gravity of what that

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<v Speaker 1>takes from from all levels. So I like it. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the aggressiveness. I was talking to Matt Rule about

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<v Speaker 1>that yesterday and we saw in the in the Cowboys game.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you've got like fourth and eight and Brennan

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<v Speaker 1>Zilstrick converts. Um. He's not afraid to go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it really feels like this front office matches him

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<v Speaker 1>in that sense that that they are gonna do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they can to get this roster in the right place

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<v Speaker 1>in order to push for games beyond the red their season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's So it's an interesting thing when you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>news of the morning, you know, shakes the NFL world,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the news by lunch includes the Panthers in

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. Those just those aren't necessarily the things

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<v Speaker 1>that have been happening around here for you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a kind of a different reality. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun to be a part of. Right

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<v Speaker 1>And oh, by the way, the big news yesterday morning

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be Christian McCaffrey's back on the practice field.

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<v Speaker 1>Right by the end of the day, that was about

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth most important thing that was going on. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's yeah, I mean, that's the personality they've

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<v Speaker 1>taken on. And and credit to Will for helping dig

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<v Speaker 1>this up. When they traded for Darryl Johnson right before

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the regular season, the Bill's defensive end.

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<v Speaker 1>They trade for him. That was their eleventh trade since

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<v Speaker 1>Scott took over his g M in January, which matched

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<v Speaker 1>what they made in the three previous years. They've since

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<v Speaker 1>tacked two more onto that, so we're at thirteen trades

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<v Speaker 1>and counting for Scott Fitter in this calendar year. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just that's that's the m oh now, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way they operate. And and Scott admitted yesterday he's out

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<v Speaker 1>working the phones, trying to see if there's offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>help available, you know, seeing what else is available, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as they go through some stuff where they're a little

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<v Speaker 1>thin a linebacker and different things. I mean, Scott's out

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<v Speaker 1>there working the phones. And and he admitted he said,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get the reputation for making all these deals,

0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you hear stuff that other people don't because people know

0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you're open for business, it can only help. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not all gonna work out. Not every trade is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a home run. You know, sometimes things

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<v Speaker 1>just aren't gonna work. But right now, I mean the

0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.880
<v Speaker 1>excitement they're creating with this, I think it's got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people fired up. And and neither here nor there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's something that I think Panthers fans

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<v Speaker 1>should to take a lot of comfort in scoff fit

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<v Speaker 1>or despite being busier than like pretty much any other,

0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.400
<v Speaker 1>GM always has time to be a lovely human when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk to him. I mean, really, it just it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome. Scott's easy people to get along, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't ever feel like he's overwhelmed by any more. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to him before the draft, after the draft. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you see him right now, you wouldn't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. It's just real calm um on the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean he could be it could be negotiations

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<v Speaker 1>with like three different teams right now, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he's just, hey, how's it going, how's

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<v Speaker 1>everyone doing? You know, let me let me stop and

0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.040
<v Speaker 1>talk to you about this, which is which is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also feels like if Stefan Gilmore walked over

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of doors down and knocked on Scott's door

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, Mike Lalmower is out of gas, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, oh, here's here's a tank. You can

0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.280
<v Speaker 1>have mine. Just bring it back whenever you feel well.

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<v Speaker 1>For multiple reasons, I think any GM would do that

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<v Speaker 1>if signed nineteen or traded for defensive Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, he would do that no matter who the

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor was. That's right. Let's talk about the Cowboys game. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the run defense was a was a big issue. A

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<v Speaker 1>line is something that a lot of other people are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. So starting with that run defense, that was

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<v Speaker 1>really the strength of this team. In the first three games,

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<v Speaker 1>and then both Tony Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott just I

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<v Speaker 1>mean just gash the run defense um, like the screeching

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<v Speaker 1>tire sound effect goes here. You're averaging forty five yards

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<v Speaker 1>a game and Dallas runs for two. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Eagles and Jalen Hurts is their leading rusher.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think if you're this coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you telling these guys who are clearly incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>talented but just got knocked down a peg in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get that confidence. We talked about this momentum versus confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>What do these guys need to do, uh, in order

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<v Speaker 1>to to be ready aside from film study right um

0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.760
<v Speaker 1>for these Eagles game and Jalen Hurts And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have a story about this very topics dot com

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<v Speaker 1>that I've heard in a while on this po I thought, really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like right off the top. Yeah, I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting. When Jermaine Carter was talking the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>he used the phrase we put blood in the water

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<v Speaker 1>twice during about a seven minute interview on Monday. And

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<v Speaker 1>they know that everybody's watching that tape now and and

0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.040
<v Speaker 1>they put out the blueprint. I mean, you want to

0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.240
<v Speaker 1>run at the Carolina Panthers, here's what you gotta do.

0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Load it up, put an extra linement on the field,

0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.560
<v Speaker 1>bring all your tight ends to the party, and just

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<v Speaker 1>go straight at them. And and until they stop it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be Philadelphia is not built the same

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<v Speaker 1>way as Dallas. Not many people are, but and not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's gonna be able to pull it off. But they

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<v Speaker 1>know they're marked now and people are gonna try them.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've got to get it fixed. And they've got

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<v Speaker 1>to get it fixed hurry, in a hurry. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>de KWin talked, de Kuan Johns talked about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>technique and everybody being in the right gap and all

0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:49.280
<v Speaker 1>those little bitty things. But mostly it got their attention,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think those guys, you know, they've got pride

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<v Speaker 1>in their work, just like everybody else. And when it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't go the way you're expecting, you know, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of caught everybody. And they knew walking in this week

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<v Speaker 1>they were in store for. And this one may feel

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<v Speaker 1>a little different because of you know, Ezekiel Elliott. There

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<v Speaker 1>were times when everything looked correct, the gap integrity was

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<v Speaker 1>there that everyone stepped up and they made the contact

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<v Speaker 1>exactly as they've made the three weeks before, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke tacks four to five four yards onto it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just who Zeke is right now. And you know

0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.720
<v Speaker 1>you could tell he was playing with a chip on

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<v Speaker 1>his shoulder. You know, he was tired of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>being written off. Um, you know the way he was

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<v Speaker 1>a little Oh you know that it's a two back

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<v Speaker 1>system now and Tony Pollard may be better and all this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Zeke was running with with fire. But this week,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it hurts as a guy. He's not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to run through you. He's gonna trying to run by

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<v Speaker 1>you or make you fall down and miss. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be you know, how do these corners do

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<v Speaker 1>out in the edge? You know, how did guys do

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<v Speaker 1>in space? It may not be you know, people that

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<v Speaker 1>are getting knocked back and just a huge pile of

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<v Speaker 1>dust that's moving five yards down the field. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit different, but it's still gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>very dangerous. Yeah, And it's also a little bit out

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<v Speaker 1>of necessity that they might have to play along the

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<v Speaker 1>edges anyway, because with Shack Thompson out this week. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Rule mentioned stuff yesterday about one linebacker defenses,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's a good thing. You've got a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Jeremy Chen who's got some linebacker background that

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<v Speaker 1>you can move around and do different stuff and they'll,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they'll have different ways to play this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, I mean, they were they were pretty

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<v Speaker 1>thin at inside linebacker anyway when it was Jermaine and Shack.

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<v Speaker 1>And now there's no shock at least for this week,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe for Negs, probably for Eggs, but um, that's another issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But they you're gonna have to be fast on defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have to be correct. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>front four has got to get their gap covered, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've got to do as much contained as they

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<v Speaker 1>can to keep this thing from getting to the edges

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<v Speaker 1>and getting away from them like it did last week.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's some things in the NFL where if you

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<v Speaker 1>do the right things and you kind of give the

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<v Speaker 1>effort and put yourself in the right position, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times the ball will start bouncing back your way.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like the last couple of weeks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out in Texas, just like I mean, let's be real,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jeremy Chinn. Thing was a fumble, that was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Ref messed it up period, you know, no forward progress,

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<v Speaker 1>that's b S. You know, sorry, but when you get home,

0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.920
<v Speaker 1>apologize for saying b S. Yeah, okay, alright, just checking

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You get home and you keep doing you know,

0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of just the way of football. You keep

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<v Speaker 1>putting in the effort and the ball kind of starts

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<v Speaker 1>going back your way, you know, especially when when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at home and you do the right things and hopefully

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.600
<v Speaker 1>things kind of turned back for you. Because there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things, especially on that I mean on

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<v Speaker 1>that one drive. I mean that it was just an

0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:38.440
<v Speaker 1>absurdity of of what is going on here? The drive

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<v Speaker 1>with the right and then the two point conversion that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't one, you know, all of those, you know that

0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.480
<v Speaker 1>they finally corrected after twenty minutes of looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>The review had a couple of plays before the chair,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and there, you know, and guys were getting

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<v Speaker 1>their helmets taken off of the line and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I think you get home and you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you want to get out to a

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<v Speaker 1>good start and kind of get right in feeling like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's not everyone against us, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that takes some character building to be able to keep

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<v Speaker 1>playing when you know that things are going against You

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<v Speaker 1>want a few good plays under your belt right after

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<v Speaker 1>having a game that you just kind of want to

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<v Speaker 1>wash away, and it'll be good to feel like you

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.800
<v Speaker 1>know you're both supported and you know, amped up by

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the people out here, you know. I I think that

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<v Speaker 1>especially this week, you know, Charlotte's a place where they

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<v Speaker 1>can get up when you get them up, and with

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<v Speaker 1>Gilmore coming in and you know, there's still some a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of excitement in the city. Can I say this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying this just because we're talking on

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast to Panthers fans who will be listening to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it on air, I've said it off the

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<v Speaker 1>air to to Rule and others. The last two home games,

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<v Speaker 1>that crowd has been great. There have been some some

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<v Speaker 1>big third down you know potential like where the defense

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<v Speaker 1>needs the crowd to fire up on third down and

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds good, it sounds loud, you can tell that

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.879
<v Speaker 1>it's bothering people. Um and I remember I think it

0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 1>was in the Saints game there was a There was

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a big third down for the Saints. They were trying

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:10.399
<v Speaker 1>to you know, defense is getting the crowd fired up.

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<v Speaker 1>They sounded great, and the Saints called the time out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I wonder what it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>sound like when they come out of the time out

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and the crowd picked it back up, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just I was really proud. You know, it's great, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is what you're looking for at home, and I

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 1>know that they're excited to be here for for two

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.639
<v Speaker 1>more games. I want to talk about old line quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Darren put you on the hot speed. Yeah. Yeah, well

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you host, you just pass off the

0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 1>tough stuff to somebody else. What would you tell fans

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 1>right now? Yeah, that was because that's what they're asking about.

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, it was not great, Bob, it was.

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:48.439
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of great, Bob. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bad last week. And you know, I think they're I

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 1>think there's by a natural means, going to be a

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>different look out there this week. We'll see. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Irving didn't practice yesterday and left tackle, so you

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>start wondering how they're gonna put guys on the field.

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, during training camp Rule always said that Taylor

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Moten was his backup left tackle. Now we'll see if

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>he's hesitant to move him from the right. We'll see

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>how the week goes off cam practices or not, or

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>what they end up doing. But whether regardless of personnel,

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they've got to fix that because that was a big

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>problem and that was the other blueprint thing and Sam

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 1>said it after the game the other day. We know

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna bring it now to try to create

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.919
<v Speaker 1>that kind of confusion, and yeah, I think being on

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the roads part of it, because Dallas was loud as well,

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and that causes some confusion. But they just got to

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>play better and they've got to settle into some degree

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:45.679
<v Speaker 1>of routine, whether that's Trent Scott, whether that's Brady Christiansen,

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.199
<v Speaker 1>whether that's Taylor Moten on this side, or that's how

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I just gotta play better and we'll see if they can.

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.439
<v Speaker 1>But we knew going into the season that that was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be one of the weaknesses of a roster.

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.439
<v Speaker 1>As they put this thing together, that was almost like

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the last thing they're working on. And yeah, between ailf

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Line getting hurt now Irving's hurt, they don't have the

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>first choice line. But I would say to John Miller,

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>they weren't sure last week how much he was gonna

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>play was questionable. He'd also, you know, come back from

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>COVID protocol and week two against the Saints, they said,

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>we think he might play like sixty of the snaps.

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>He ended up playing a hundred percent of them because

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>of because of Pat Elfne's injury. Um and he played

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:30.439
<v Speaker 1>the whole game. And we knew Camerving was banged up

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>going into that Cowboys game. So, like you said, it's

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you're starting at a certain point and then you add

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>injuries into it. I mean, there was there was one.

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've they've kept Sam very clean through the

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>first three games, but I mean he did have to

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<v Speaker 1>go change his jersey in the third quarter because it

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>was it was ripped after the fourth or fifth stack.

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Was the wardrobe malfunction that they all of Twitter was

0:24:55.080 --> 0:25:00.919
<v Speaker 1>so terrified for those like five minutes. Executive producer was

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>is Is in the podcast studio with us, and I did,

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.679
<v Speaker 1>especially after the Thursday night game, where the majority of

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>my reports on the radio sideline were very tough injury

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 1>related reports, and you're you're watching these guys and hoping

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>everything's okay. I saw him run in there with the

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>with our you know, equipment team, and I told our

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>producer David Lincoln immediately, I was like, I just want

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to let you know it's it's a jersey related like

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>no ones, no one when they when they go in

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.880
<v Speaker 1>with the equipment guy rather than the athletic training staff,

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's usually a good sign. And your your

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.439
<v Speaker 1>tweet that you know back in the day, Jake just

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>pulled his pants off in front of everyone with some towels.

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I did bring that up when I did my

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>report on Sam changing his jersey. I said, you know,

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Jake does know a little something about having to do

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a quick change on the sideline. So you had a

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 1>good time with that. Um. But speaking of Sam, I mean,

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>he's despite did always scoring touchdowns a lot with his feet.

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about that. And will you have a

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:18.400
<v Speaker 1>stut of the week that relates to this right the week? Yeah,

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So last week was kind of scary in my world

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>because after that second touchdown I kind of went into,

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, my computer thing and looked up first four

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:32.719
<v Speaker 1>games total rushing touchdowns and I'm seeing five and I'm like,

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, Wait a minute, no one's ever done

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 1>this as a quarterback, and I'm like, I am terrified.

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I am terrified. Am I about Tom? I am I about?

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Are you about to just have the best at ever

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.199
<v Speaker 1>you setting yourself up to before? Just like, oh, but

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>what about? As a former ESPN researcher, I know that

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>feeling when you come across something very good and you're like, yeah,

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.959
<v Speaker 1>what is wrong here? What am I missing? Yeah? So

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I waited and I waited, and I looked at I

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>looked at and he's just like, I mean, if you're right.

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know if I am. He's like,

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>just just go and so I went with it. In

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a minute later, it's up on Fox, you know, like

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>on the lower third, and like that was one of

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 1>those That was one of those moments. Anyway, moving forward,

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the trust your process, well, right, trust the process. You

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>had it right. So two straight games with at least

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>two rushing touchdowns, if he makes it three straight games

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>this weekend, that would be an NFL record for a quarterback.

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>No one's ever done that, and it would tie a

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>name that everybody in Panther fandom knows. That's the only

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>player that's ever done as a Panther. He was a

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>running back that had three straight games with two rushing touchdowns. Naturally,

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>it's it's go ahead, Lamar Smith legend. Everyone remembers Lamar

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Smith of the Lamar Smith days in in Panther. I

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 1>think it was two thousand, the Lamar Smith Moms. But

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 1>he had three really good games. He had a hot streak,

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you know to oh too, Okay, there you go. So

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Lamar Smith would be would be the one that uh,

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Sam Donald could tie this weekend. It's you know, it's

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's moving past being a curiosity to actually a

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>thing they do. And the fact that Sam how many

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks teats have we seen? The fact that Sam can

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 1>run a little The fact that Sam can make a

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>decision I think keeps things open. I mean if you

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.959
<v Speaker 1>saw the the d J Moore touchdown where he's kind

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 1>of running around a little bit and he buys some

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>time and finds DJ. I mean I think part of that.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not that opposing defensive coordinators are like, oh god,

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>how do we slow down Sam Donald on the run.

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>But it's a factor. Well, it has to be look

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>at how many touchdowns he scored, Look at how many

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>times he's able to hes. Yeah, it's a thing. I mean,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>all the NFL notes this week said the battle of

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>dual threat quarterbacks. I mean what we were in the game.

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>We're in the game, and our incredible executive producer, David

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>LinkedIn was keeping me updated on the rushing touchdown leaderboard.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>It was bouncing between Ezekiel Elliott and Sam Donald throughout

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the game. And by the way Sam, I mean, they

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>did not come away with the wind, but Sam came

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>out on top at the end. Incredible. If you're Joe Brady,

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>do you like do you like that he's I mean,

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you like the touchdowns, but do you like that he's

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.239
<v Speaker 1>scoring on with his feet? I think you're okay with it.

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially in a situation where you're without Christian McCaffrey,

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>having one more option in the red zonner at the

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>goal line can't hurt. And I mean Sam's big enough

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>that sneaks are are viable. He's athletic enough that he

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>can get out and make a play every now and then.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that you want to turn him into

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>mar Jackson or anything, but as long as he's not flipping, yeah,

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>no flips, no flips. Speaking of Christian McCaffrey, Darren and

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>what are you what are you hearing? Um, we'll see,

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>how do you know? I thought it was interesting the

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>way Matt Rule Mr. Process talked about it yesterday. It

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>was almost like he goes out Wednesday, he's limited, Thursday,

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>he'll probably be limited again, and you give him a

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit more each day, and that's kind of what

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be for Christian and you know, we'll see.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>He said that if Christians able to go a hundred

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>percent on Sunday, they'll play him. But I mean that

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>would be ahead of pace for what they initially thought,

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see how the next couple of days ago.

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like he does a little bit of

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a time, a little bit more, a little bit more,

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>ramp him up and if you get to Sunday, we'll see.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>But uh, you know, I think they probably described that

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>as a two or three week injury to begin with,

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>so you know, one might be on the outside edge

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of possibility. Stay tuned well. And and the last point

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>on that is that I think you feel good about

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Chuba Hubbard after seeing what he did in the Cowboys game.

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>And look and Bryce Freeman did some good things, and

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.479
<v Speaker 1>so did Rodger Smith. So I think you you feel

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>confident in in what you've got on the roster, who

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you've got on the roster, I should say, Um, if

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Christian can't play, rather than rushing enough to not rush

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>him back, you don't feel compelled to, oh my god,

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I gotta put nine percent Christian McCaffrey out there. They

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that, not for this week, not

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>at all, and they just want to do right by him,

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>do right by the team, and have a Christian McCaffrey

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>hopefully in a few weeks, which is a good thing. Yeah. Um,

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, Well so you I I've heard that you

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>caused quite a stir on the internet again, not just

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, not just these incredible stats, but also what

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you tweeted something last night that got a ton of

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>responses that you're going to share with us. Yeah. I

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>just want to know what people wanted us to talk about,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and apparently none of it was football or start. We

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>did start this entire podcast out with Darren's week old

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>review of The Rolling Stones, and that's what I think.

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what the people want to make no apologies, that's

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what the people want to hear but they got their

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>gill more too. So we're gonna do We're gonna do

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>some rapid fire. I'm gonna I'm gonna lay it out

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>for you, guys. No descriptions, no analysis. Just give me

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>a quick answer. We'll go around the board. You say

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that for me, But is all my stories are too long?

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>You can do a story at the end. All right,

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>top Halloween? Candy, Matt, anything but candy corn. It's Reese's.

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Reese Is always tastes better around Halloween. Pye Eminem's just

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>like the regular ones. Peanut Okay, yeah, alright? What color

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>pants are they wearing with the black jerseys this weekend?

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>We don't know the answer. This, this is just what

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>we want, aren't you the jersey? Matt go. It is nice,

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't it when you get to tell other people like this?

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I like this power. It feels good. I want to

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>see blue pants, blue pants, Kristen black pants, black pants. Okay,

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a traditional as silver pants, silver pants. I want

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to see the white pants. I think that'd be fun.

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>You gonna go black and white? Yeah, black and white,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>let's see it. Let's do it. Okay, nicknames for the defense, Matt,

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing, Okay, I like it. That's just letting

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>us know. Um, I'm stealing this one from Darren, but

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm going first, so that's fine. I like Darren said

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>cold for not too long ago, Phil snow. I like

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>cold front. It feels intimidating. Also, I would love a

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>cold front to come through Charlotte. Just unrelated, it's too

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>hot the blizzard. Can we get Brad Panoviage to guest

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>host that would be awesome. Yeah, pull pull some strings.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, I mean it's snow storm. I mean

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it's all it's all kind of the same one and

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.239
<v Speaker 1>one and one in the same there you had, so

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you had all night to think about that, and you're

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>coming out with snowstorm. Fine, I'm moving on. What do

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>we think Stefan Gilmore's number is going to wear? And

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I we don't know the answer to this as of

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>recording on Thursday morning. You may know by the time

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>this comes out. Matt, whatever single digit number is available now,

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Matt just took my answer, whereas I took Darren's answer.

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to see a single digit number. I guess

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>what nine is left? Is nine is left? I mean

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>in the number that shall not be named it also

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>left right, you know what? You know what to find

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Gilmore War five at South Point High School. And I

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>think there's probably some room for negotiation with saying Gonza

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it's fair, I will would he negotiate with boy for

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know? Probably not. I think there there's a

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<v Speaker 1>certain honor among veterans, so you don't want to mess

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<v Speaker 1>with that part of it. But I also don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how married is. I have not admittedly kept up with

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<v Speaker 1>other teams. Are we seeing other defenses with as many

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<v Speaker 1>single digit numbers? Like? Because I mean I've seen the

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>teams we've played, but are there embracing the single digits? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks weird as much as the Panthers. It does

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<v Speaker 1>look weird. Yeah, Okay, next, best places in North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>for leaf peeping one more time? What's what's it called

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<v Speaker 1>leaf peeping? Find that that's not vulgar, Christen, It just

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<v Speaker 1>sounds funny. Leaf. Once we get the snowstorm come through,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have some leaf peeping. I mean, you gotta s Matt, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my yard because I don't have to leave

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>my house. Like a great answer. That's an answer that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Darren approves of UM. I like, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go to the mountains. Just anywhere. Anywherewhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>mountains is um, I'll say blowing rock Okay, yeah, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>the Lynn cove Via ducts come with it on Therus,

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 1>the Lynn Viaduct. These are my people. I changed my

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<v Speaker 1>answer to the Blue Dge Parkway. I forgot about that,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, right after I mean, does hick does Hickory

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<v Speaker 1>have um have good leaf peeping? We're moving in that direction. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not bad leaf pie. Since you've already referenced Brad once.

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Brad actually has a leaf peeping forecast model that he

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<v Speaker 1>puts out there on Twitter. Yeah, it's great. What's your answer? Well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say Hickory. I like, I want to

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to go to the foothills just because I

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>can say it that way. UM. And and finally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because the points don't matter, but points are good. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is. There is the um who would be

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<v Speaker 1>This is just for Darren who would be your wrestler

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<v Speaker 1>if you were a wrestler, Because there was a picture

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that's there's a picture out there on Twitter. There was

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a picture I was at Waho. McDaniels, Guy when I

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>was a kid. Whoa who? McDaniels was the Indian Chief

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>former NFL football player who became the champion of the

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>nub A. But he was the king of the Indian

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<v Speaker 1>strap match, which is probably looking back on it, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little racist, but um, you know, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies and it was wrestling. Everything was kind of that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do have another wrestling story. Do we have

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<v Speaker 1>time for a story? Mixed waiting over here to to

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<v Speaker 1>do Mick things. So Mix waiting for my story? Well,

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Mike me need to hop on for this one. As

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>as I was on my way to cover a college

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<v Speaker 1>pro day in two thousand eleven of a certain quarterback

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>who happened to play at Auburn University, I drove down

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<v Speaker 1>for the pro day. We stopped in Atlanta. I am

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<v Speaker 1>moving over because Mick has now indeed joined for Darren's story.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to make that clear that Mick

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon is now listening. Yeah. So two thousand eleven, we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the way to Cam Newton's pro day in Auburn, Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Sorenson and the Charlotte Observer and I get in

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<v Speaker 1>the car, get on the road. We stopped in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>go at to Cam's hometown, talked some folks there, and

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<v Speaker 1>while we were on the outskirts of Atlanta, we we

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<v Speaker 1>felt it was our obligation to visit Abdullah the Butcher's

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<v Speaker 1>house of ribs and Chinese food right outside the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Airport area. And we walked in the door and they're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at a table enjoying a grape soda and or

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<v Speaker 1>possibly a bottle of wine. Was Abdulla the Butcher himself.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sarnson and I sat and had an enjoyable evening

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 1>telling wrestling stories with Abdula the Butcher. Mick, do you

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>know Abdullah Butcher? Of course, what do you know about him? Um?

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Not as much? UM, My I'm older. So Abdullah the

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Butcher came into prominence a little after I started to

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<v Speaker 1>stop practicing wrestling holes on my sister, who was feisty.

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I got her in the sleeper hold and I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing it just like Rip Hawk and Johnny Weaver, but

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>she never even really got drowsy. So then I got

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>her in the Boston Crab the Russian Sickle, which was

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Ivan Coloff's submission, moved the corkscrew made popular by Bronco

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Lubich and Aldobodny. One time I suplexed her cowboy bob Roup,

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and I had cushions laid out, but she went past

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<v Speaker 1>the cushions and hit the coffee table. Oops. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>there too as a as a little sister. But Abdul

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<v Speaker 1>the butcher, whose nickname was the Madman from Sudan, he's

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>actually from Candle's submission. It wasn't It wasn't the claw now,

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that was Baron von Rashki and also the Super Destroyer

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>had that for a while. But Abdulla would stick a

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<v Speaker 1>fork in a man's head until he bled leader. That

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<v Speaker 1>was his gimmick. So here's a picture. You can't see

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<v Speaker 1>it on the podcast, but Theater of the Mind, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the Abduel the butcher, sticking a plastic fork in my head.

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>He looks like he's used that fork a lot. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was how was the food after hearing that trap?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything you dreamed it would be and more. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when a place is called Abdullah the Butcher's House of

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<v Speaker 1>ribs and Chinese Food, I walked in and they said

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you have And I said the ribs and

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the Chinese food. But I'm not leaving until he puts

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>a plastic fork through my head. When I was listening

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to you, guys were talking about nicknames. Had we kept

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:17.439
<v Speaker 1>that prior kicker um he looked. In fact, I even

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>called him Abdullah the Butcher, I think on the air

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 1>one time, because he had that mustache and that kind

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>of mad Hungarian al ruby. I couldn't quite bring it

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<v Speaker 1>into focus, but there was something not of this world

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<v Speaker 1>about him. Oh, I've got to look up Abdullah the Butcher, now,

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>don't you. Yeah. I mean I've seen the picture of

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Darren with with him, but yeah, I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening on Twitter last night? When that came through,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know what. Well I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>it did because we got to hear an amazing story

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>and we had Mick make I guess I like cold

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<v Speaker 1>Front by the way, I think I could have Cold Front.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. That's good. Well, thank you Mick. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been way more enjoyable, and hopefully Twitter enjoyed this. Thank

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 1>you Twitter. Twitter has definitely enjoyed it, as did Will

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<v Speaker 1>and I. Thanks everyone for listening. We'll see you next

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<v Speaker 1>week on The Happy Half Hour Podcast