1 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Any and I'm 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Lauren Vocalbaum, and today we're talking about maple syrup. Yes, 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: maple syrup. So many of you have suggested this, and 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: you've told us about amazing festivals. Oh yeah, there's so 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: many of them, and we we desperately want to go. 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: But thank you to thank you for writing in and 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: suggesting and also making us incredibly jealous. Yeah, we just 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: missed all of them. I think, yeah, they're they're all 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: in late March and early April. But so if you're 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: listening to this as it comes out, you have a 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: whole year to plan. You could plan Oh my gosh, 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: a whole maple syrup. Yes, a tour to syrup. Oh man, 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: let us in on that please. Um. I have an 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: unattributed quote quote of the episode. They say blood is 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: thicker than water, but maple syrup is thicker than blood. 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Therefore my loyalties. While I was pancakes, I can appreciate that. Yeah, 17 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I might be more of a waffles person than a 18 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: pancakes person, but I appreciate the sentiment. I I prefer 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: waffles as well, but I do like a good pancake. 20 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I can't wait to do an episode on pancakes because me, 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: for me and most of my friends, pancakes when they 22 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: were kids made it. They made us all nauseous, really yeah, 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: like some kind of weird thing and I'm too many? 24 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Was it like? No, it was like two bites in 25 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: nauseated so well duly noted. Yeah, not anymore, love me 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: a good pancake, but it was. It was weird. It 27 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: was almost all of my close group of friends in 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: high school. We did not eat pancakes because it might 29 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: feel straight. How are you pancaking? How did you pancakes 30 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: so wrong? Well, it could be because of the syrup 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: I was using, because I I hadn't tried real maple 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: syrup until I think last year wow, when a coworker 33 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: of ours bought some back from Vermont Um and I 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: just had pretty much like Aunt Jemima, my whole life 35 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: this is this is crazy to me because I grew up, 36 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: I was born in Ohio, I lived my early years 37 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: in Ohio, and I mean like I I have watched 38 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: people tap maple trees and collect sap from them to 39 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: make syrup. Like one of my cousin's weddings, the faders 40 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: were bottles of maple syrup that they had bottled, that 41 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: they had made and bottled themselves. Oh that's so cool. Like, 42 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: maple candy is the thing that I grew up eating 43 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: and still have huge nostalgia for. So I'm just like, like, 44 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: mind completely blown. Yeah. Um, I'm very sad about it 45 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: in in like a I can't believe I was wasted 46 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: all of this time. I'm gonna get us some maple candy. 47 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna make this work. Yes, I'm sorry. Also, 48 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: this is a throwback mention to our juicing and or 49 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: detox episode, right because it's one of the main ingredients 50 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: of the Master clins, I believe. Yeah. Yeah, it's like maple, 51 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: lemon and cay and pepper or something. Yeah. While I 52 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: was doing research for this episode, I ran across a 53 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: a cocktail recipe for the for the retox cocktail, which 54 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: was those things plus bourbon. Basically I could go for that. 55 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: Sounds good to me, But okay, maple syrup, what is it? 56 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: Great question? Great question. Maple syrup is the concentrated sugary 57 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: sap of maple trees, usually specifically sugar maples or acer suckcarum, 58 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: although other species of maples can be used to and 59 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: in fact are. You can harvest the sap from trees 60 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: by literally tapping them, I mean like putting in a 61 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: spout like tap, not by like poking them lightly with 62 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: a fingertip over and over. I'm glad you clarified. That 63 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't that wouldn't work as well. Uh. Then you you 64 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: cook the resulting sap down into syrup, and the resulting 65 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: flavor is quite sweet, with notes that can be woody, 66 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: floral like vanillas or caramel e and or herbal. A 67 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff going on there. The trees are 68 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: native to the northeastern north central parts of North America, 69 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: like like United States and Canada kind of area, and 70 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: they can live for hundreds of years and reach heights 71 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: of over one d feet or thirty meters. Wow. Their 72 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: leaves turn this really brilliant yellow than orange than red 73 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: in the fall before falling off the winter. And they're 74 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: they're lovely. They sound lovely. Yeah, And their sap is 75 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: collected in the late winter and then processed into syrup 76 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: a sap as soon as possible. I need syrup in 77 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: our faces totally, yes, Well, otherwise it goes bad because 78 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: it's got high water contexts. Yeah, yeah, I gotta keep 79 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: it cold, I gotta use it soon. Okay, not the 80 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: maple syrup. I mean maple syrup. Also, once you open 81 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: a bottle, keep it in the fridge. Really, it's not 82 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: shelf stable. Oh my gosh, I'm learning so much, learning 83 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: so much. Canada has a grading system, yeah, for maple syrup, 84 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: based on the color extra light A light A medium B, 85 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: number two amber cy and number three dark D. The 86 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: US has a simple light, which is denoted by a 87 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: versus dark B distinction, but Vermont has a whole grading 88 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: thing of their own. The descriptors are gay, there's golden 89 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: color with delicate taste, amber color with rich taste, dark 90 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: with robust taste, and very dark with strong taste, strong taste. 91 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to mental flaws for that breakdown, um, and you 92 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: actually might guess by the flag and our basic conversation 93 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: so far, it's kind of a big deal in Canada, 94 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: maple is sort of a whole thing. Yeah. I believe 95 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: probably half of the listeners who suggested maple syrup from 96 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: Canada and the other half are from uh And like wine, salt, mushrooms, oysters, 97 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: so many things, we've talked about the flavor of maple 98 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: syrup is impacted by the soil, the tree, the weather, 99 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: meaning you should sample different syrups like wines if the 100 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: opportunity presents itself, and I certainly hope it presents itself 101 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: to us. Yes, we need to work on this, we 102 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: absolutely do. We're looking at the health um. So the 103 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: sap by itself is relatively low in sugar. A good 104 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: maple syrup is about sixty six sugar or higher. That's 105 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: mostly sucross. If you were wondering with a little bit 106 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: of glucoast and fruit toast mixed in there, it's about 107 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: fifty calories per table spoon, with a decent amount of 108 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: calcium and potassium, no cholesterol of fat um. A fake 109 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: maple syrup is made of high frictose corn syrup, cellulo 110 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: scum coloring um. If you look at the labels, they 111 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: almost certainly don't have maple and the product name and 112 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: instead pancake syrup or breakfast syrup, which is one of 113 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: those things that when I read that, it's a light 114 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: in oh yeah, oh yeah, So I really wasn't having 115 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: maple syrup. It was right in front of me all 116 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: um and if you haven't surmised already, Vermont takes their 117 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: syrup seriously, and in two thousand and eleven, McDonald's found 118 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 1: itself in a legal battle after selling a product called 119 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: fruit and maple oatmeal, except it wasn't with maple, it 120 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: was with the fake stuff. Gasp. In Vermont, it is 121 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: illegal to use the word maple if the sweetener is 122 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: not involved, if the sweetener involved is not pure maple. 123 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: So McDonald's found itself in a bit of a pickle 124 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: tasted like maple syrup, fatally maple pickle. I would eat that. 125 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: I would try that. Yeah, we we try. We'll try 126 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: just about anything. Yeah, you didn't see our our social 127 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Most recently, we tried the peanut butter and pickles, so 128 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: maple and pickle. We already got pickles leftovers, and the 129 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: maple and the peanut butter and pickle was pretty okay. Yeah, yeah, 130 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: all right, we'll table that for later. Yes, Yes, let's 131 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: talk about how we get maple syrup. Yeah, yeah, to 132 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: get one gallon of syrup, you're going to need about 133 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: forty gallons of sap because the sap is water and 134 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: for season, the average tree will yield somewhere between five 135 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: and fifteen gallons of sap, so you're gonna need a 136 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: lot of trees. Um generally, this is all generally, there 137 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: are outliners that produce way more or wait less, right, 138 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: And the reason that these sugar maples or rock maples 139 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: are used so frequently is that they produce more sugar 140 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: than a lot of other maple trees. You can also 141 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: do this with birch trees. I guess you could do 142 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: it with other kinds of trees too, but I'm not 143 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: sure your results may vary. More about that possibly in 144 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: another episode. Okay, so trees, Yeah, they make sap. They do. 145 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: They do uh, some more than others, and all with 146 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: different properties. But SAP is the sugary energy source the 147 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: trees create from photosynthesis, and then they use that SAP 148 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: to power their cells and their growth. SAP is uh 149 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: that that sugar stuff rather is mixed with water drawn 150 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: up from the trees roots, and the SAP also contains 151 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: a number of minerals and other compounds. Due to all 152 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: of this process, some trees have a specific growing season. 153 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: In maples, that's the warm spring in summer when light 154 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: is plentiful in the fall and winter the trees stop 155 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: growing and kind of battened down the proverbial hatches for 156 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: the for the cold weather and shorter days, so they 157 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: store any excess sugars for use the next growing season. 158 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: One of the storage units for all this sugary sap 159 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: is raise in the trunk. Raise Raise not like the 160 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Star Wars character just hanging out. No, there's not a 161 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: bunch of tiny Star Wars ladies with lightsabers. Okay, just 162 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: checking in trees that I'm personally aware of. Oh man, 163 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: that's true. All right. Have you have you ever seen 164 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: a cross section of a of a tree trunk? Yeah? 165 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: All right, So so it's got rings. It's got rings, 166 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: concentric rings that represent growth seasons, like like Dante's Inferno 167 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: um and running perpendicular to those rings from the center 168 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: of the tree out to the bark. You'll also see 169 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: raise in a living tree. These are chains of cells 170 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: that store sugars for growth and repairs. And normally the 171 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: trees cell structure and you know, stiff outer bark will 172 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: keep the sap just cozily insulated until spring. But it's 173 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: pretty easy to disrupt that insulation and get the sap 174 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: to flow right out to you. During certain temperature conditions 175 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: because of physics. Physics, okay, for first, disrupting the the insulation, 176 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: that part's easy. You you drill a hole into the 177 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: tree's trunk and gently hammer in a spout or tap 178 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: or spile, and a wee bit of sap is going 179 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: to start flowing out from the from the cells immediately 180 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: surrounding the tap. But the way that you get it 181 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: to really flow is so cool literally, uh yeah, um Okay. 182 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: The reason that maple sap is harvested in the late winter, 183 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: like I said, is that that's when the ambient temperature 184 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: starts going significantly above freezing during the day up until 185 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: like the forties or fifties, but then dipping back down 186 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: below freezing at night. In Celsius, that's going up to 187 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: about five or ten degrees during the day, and this 188 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: means that at night the sap cools and will even 189 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: freeze inside the trunk. As you may remember from our 190 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: episode on soft drinks, colder temperatures mean that asses can 191 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: more easily dissolve into liquids. So overnight gases get dissolved 192 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: and compressed and frozen into the sap, and the next day, 193 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: when warmer temperatures melt the ice, and those gases are released. 194 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: They expand, pushing the sap right out of the tree. 195 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: All you've got to do is like hang a bucket 196 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: and you've got sap. Pretty cool. Yeah, don't worry about 197 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: the trees, by the way, they're they're fine. You can 198 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: certainly over tap a tree if you were trying, but 199 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: it would take a lot more than a single hole, 200 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: or even two or three. A properly made tap hole 201 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: will prepare itself within a couple of years to allowing 202 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: for a a long and uh productive life, an illustrious career. Yes, 203 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: and you can keep this this uh this sapping process 204 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: up as long as the night's freeze in the day's 205 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: warm up, until the tree begins buttting new leaves, at 206 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: which point at which point the tree starts producing other 207 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: compounds that will make the sap taste off. I've heard 208 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: it referred to as like old shoe flavor. Oh no, 209 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: not what you want delicious maple syrup. No, not generally 210 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: old shoe flavor. I've never seen that on a label. Now, 211 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: an old shoe flavor, I guess. I see things described 212 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: as a leather sometimes. Sure, I don't think that's what 213 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: they're talking about. I mean, old shoe is very very 214 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: specific and devocative. Yeah no, no, thanks, no, okay, So 215 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: you've got you've got your sap um and it's most simple. 216 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: You get maple syrup from SAP by tapping a sugar maple, 217 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: collecting SAP, and taking water out of the sap via 218 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: boiling and or other science until it's gone from like 219 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: two sugar to about sixty six sugar. As we were saying. 220 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: These days, though, farms might have a couple of thousand 221 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: trees or a couple of hundred thousand trees, and they 222 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: might pipe the SAP through hundreds of miles of tubing 223 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: to a sugar house where the SAP is processed. And 224 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: at that point it gets a little bit more complicated 225 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: because in these large productions and even in some home productions, 226 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: the SAP is run through a reverse osmosis unit before 227 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: it's cooked down. And all right, reverse osmosis is a 228 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: type of filtration system that's more than just like big 229 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: molecules get stuck on one side and smaller molecules go 230 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: through to the other side. That's your basic filtration. This 231 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: is a little bit more um. Basically, you apply pressure 232 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: to a solution of water plus stuff that's on one 233 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: side of a semipermeable membrane, and on the other side 234 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: you've got purer water. Normally, the way osmosis works is 235 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: the purer water would want to come through to dilute 236 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: the solution. But because you're applying pressure to it, and 237 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: and a and a couple other conditions caused by the pressure, 238 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: you're reversing the normal flow of osmosis, forcing the purer 239 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: water to all collect on one side, and then the 240 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: increasingly dense solution of water and stuff to collect on 241 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: the other. And this gets a whole bunch of water 242 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: out before you start cooking the SAP, which means you 243 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: can save a whole lot on energy. Yeah yeah, because yeah, yeah. 244 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: The cooking process, you essentially set it out in big 245 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: trays and heat the trays. That's it until it's until 246 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: it's syrup. Well there you go. Yeah, and then yeah, 247 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: either way you you you filter it and then it's 248 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: essentially that's what you got. That's what you got. I 249 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: every time you're saying SAP, I kept thinking of a 250 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: drastic park that DNA video MR and it get caught 251 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: in the SAP. I watched that last night, so it's 252 00:15:54,280 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: like different. Yes, no dinosaurs involved in this episode that 253 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: we that we know. Again, there's a lot of mysteries 254 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: to be solved, listeners, A lot of mysteries out here, 255 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: all right, So let's talk some maple syrup numbers. Um. 256 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: As you may have heard in the news lately, maple 257 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: syrup makes some big books, such big books that had 258 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: inspired theft and criminals absconded with six million pounds of 259 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: maple syrup from the warehouse of the Federation of Quebec 260 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: Maple Syrup Producers, worth about eighteen million dollars. That's so 261 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: much syrup. I know, eighteen million dollars of syrup. It's 262 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: six million pounds. That's wild. I do not have the technology, 263 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: no are the brain power. Now, twenty three people have 264 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: been arrested so far. Yeah, but authorities are still missing 265 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: one third of what has taken, so they have recovered 266 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: two thirds um. And this is one of the largest 267 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: agricultural thefts of all time. There's been some really big ones, 268 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: so that's impressive. Uh. And and the Quebec Maple Syrup 269 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Producers Organization, by the way, has been keeping reserves of 270 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: syrup to accommodate for fluctuations and production back since the 271 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: year two thousand. Yeah, I ever want to be out 272 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: of that maple syrup. The price can fluctuate wildly depending 273 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: on the season. Time reported in two thousand nine that 274 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: maple syrup would run you about eighty dollars a gallon 275 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: in some places. Yeah. Um, about eight percent of our 276 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: supply comes from Canada and two thirds of that comes 277 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: from Quebec. Korea, however, prefers the sap. They gather from 278 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: the Korean maple tree, and they consume a lot of it, 279 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: sometimes as much as five gallons in one go. Of 280 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: the sap, not the syrup, Yes, important, important, Just guzzle 281 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: gallon after can sup. Yeah. The tree's name translates to 282 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: tree good for the bones. Birch Sap is a popular 283 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: drink in Russia and other parts of Northern Europe, and 284 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: here in the United States. There has been from time 285 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: to time a market for maple sap called maple water. 286 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: Very fancy. Yeah, I don't know, it sounds it sounds lovely, 287 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: it does. Okay, So that's the overview of maple syrup. 288 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: What is it? Answered? But what about the history? What 289 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: about it? We'll get into it right after a quick 290 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back, 291 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, sponsor. The indigenous peoples of North America were 292 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: most likely the first to figure out the secret to 293 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: tapping maple trees, and we can find a few legends 294 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: about the discovery and the historical record. Um. There's a 295 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: legend that a chief through a tomahawk at a tree 296 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: and the syrup overfloweth from the cut, and I believe 297 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: his wife she collected it, and then she accidentally, maybe 298 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: not accidentally, she um was out of water and she 299 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: used the sap to cook venison in or something, and 300 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: they were like, whoa, this is the best taste, so good. Um. 301 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: There's another legend that some well it's not really a legend. 302 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: Maybe some just oozed out from a broken branch on 303 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: a maple tree. Um. Perhaps it froze and became a sapsicle. 304 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: I did not make that word up. Oh yeah, no, 305 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: that's real word, sapsicle. I love it. Um. Or perhaps um, 306 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: some folks got the idea by watching animal life always 307 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: a possibility. Um. Accounts from arriving settlers described Native Americans 308 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: slashing into trees with their tomahawks than collecting the sap 309 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: with a reed or a concave piece of bark in 310 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: vessels of sewn together birch bark that were made waterproof 311 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: by adding boiled pine cones to the seams um and 312 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: these vessels were later replaced with iron kettles. According to 313 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: the American Maple Museum, Jacques Cartier observed North American maple 314 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: trees and fifteen forty, and French monk Andre D. Tivet 315 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: wrote about the North American maple sugar ng in fifty seven. 316 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: Obviously hopefully you never know, You never know. UM collection 317 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: and distillation of maple sap by the Micmac tribe was 318 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: detailed by Mark lis carbo and sixteen or six, and 319 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: written records show that by seventeen sixty and probably earlier 320 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: UM with that distillation, the syrup was sometimes boiled down 321 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: to sugar and added to water or porridge made of 322 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: ground up corn on meat and fish in the place 323 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: of salt. I've on to document listing the ways Native 324 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: Americans utilized maple sap syrup sugar, and it was quite long, 325 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: ranging from beer to bread to venison, all kinds of things. 326 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: When the Europeans arrived, the Native Americans taught them how 327 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: to extract it, and it was their go to when 328 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: other sweeteners like molasses are fine, sugar we're hard to 329 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: come by the authors of Eating in America History describe 330 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: a maple syrup as one of the quote most important 331 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: contributions of Northeastern Native Americans to American cooking, one that 332 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: impressed Europeans enormously, as opposed to other stuff that they 333 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: were like, that's lame. Yeah, what are you doing there, pumpkin? 334 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Actually they were impressed by the pumpkin. I don't know. 335 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: The beginning of the sixteenth century, dairy farmers sometimes referred 336 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: to maple trees as sugar bushes, and with drill holes 337 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: into these trees with a bucket hung underneath during the 338 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: brief window they could get to the sap as a 339 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: way to make a little extra money, or if they 340 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: just wanted to sweetener for them elves. Every couple of days, 341 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: the farmers would pour the contents of the buckets into 342 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: a bigger vessel and haul them off to a sugar house. 343 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: There they'd boil the sap over a fire to get 344 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: the syrup. A sixteen seventy one account from a French 345 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: Jesuit priest mentions a liquor that runs from the trees 346 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: called maple water. Once the Europeans followed the Native American example, 347 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: many folks began using it as their main sweetener. Over 348 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: two centuries ago, early Americans were consuming maple syrup at 349 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: a rate of four times higher than our current one, 350 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: and the reason for this was largely priced at the time, 351 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: and up until at least eighteen sixty, cane sugar from 352 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: the Spanish West Indies would run you way, way, way, 353 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: way more. And according to records from the eighteen seventies, 354 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: the Winnebago and Chippewood tribes were rumored to sell fifteen 355 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: thousand pounds of maple sugar a year to the Northwest 356 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: Fur Company. Yeah. Other written descriptions described the map The 357 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: maple harvesting season as a sort of carnival for the 358 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: Native Americans, when children had boiled a sack to sugar, 359 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: then pour it into the snow to make candy. Still 360 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: a thing? Is it really? Yeah? That's so exciting. Did 361 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: you ever do that? No? Oh, man, but I've but 362 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: I've watched it. Then, Oh, that's cool. Later, a German 363 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: explorer wrote that you could find maple candies in all 364 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: kinds of shapes like flowers and animals. The authors of 365 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: the aforementioned Eating in America contended that the prominence, popularity, 366 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: and sweetness of maple syrup led to a prevalence of 367 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: sweetness in the New American cuisine, particularly in the North 368 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: and New England. And they gave honey baked ham as 369 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: kind of an example, or sweetened pork meats. It's a 370 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: weird way to say that, but yeah, you know, like 371 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: the sugared ham or sugared bacon or kind of that thing. Yeah. Um. 372 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: The Quakers, who were abolitionist, made and promoted maple sugar 373 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: as a replacement for sugarcane obtained through slave labor in 374 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: the West Indies. In sight, they were led by Dr 375 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: Benjamin Rush, and he caught the ear someone who comes 376 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: up a lot in our episodes. No, not Columbus, Napoleon. No, 377 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: he hasn't come up in a while, right, Napoleon, you've 378 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: been slacking. Yeah, come on, it's Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson 379 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: became a member of Russia's Society for promoting the manufacturer 380 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: of sugar from the sugar maple tree just rolls off 381 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: the tongue. I tell you, Jefferson thought that if American 382 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: farmers could produce enough maple sugar to satisfy the country's 383 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: need and still have some left to export, then they 384 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: could put a stop to the British cane sugar operation 385 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: um at the time, even though maple sugar wasn't exactly 386 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: the easiest thing to produce, this was not unfeasible. An 387 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: average farm family reasonably could have churned out two hundred 388 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: pounds a season rush and Jefferson made pamphlets. I don't 389 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: know why I got so excited and I read M. 390 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: Along with the anti slavery sentiments, it did come with 391 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: less than scientific claims. The pamphlets did, like this one. 392 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: The plague has never been known in any country where 393 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: sugar composes a material part of the diet of the inhabitants. 394 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean no, right, that's no, I can't. I haven't 395 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: fact checked that. We haven't fact checked it. We did 396 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: not fact check Jefferson's claim. But there's no plague where 397 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: they eat sugar positive. I don't think so. But anyway, 398 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: he Jefferson started up his own maple plantation in sevente 399 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: in his Monticello home By eighteen eighteen, maple sugars price 400 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: tag was half that of cane sugar. In eighteen fifty eight. 401 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: The evaporating pan is patented. In eighteen sixty the first 402 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: metal sap spout. That same year, the US produced forty 403 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: million pounds of maple sugar and one point six million 404 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: gallons of maple Europe, the highest in our history peak 405 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: qus maple syrup. Um. We see a lot of a 406 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: vaporating pan innovations all the way up until the nineteen hundreds, 407 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: and the first sugar evaporator in four I'll last. The 408 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: very next year, for the first time, the price of 409 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: cane sugar fell below that of maple sugar. The Vermont 410 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: Maple Sugar Makers Association was founded in three and started 411 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: putting those standards together. The Pure Food and Drug Act 412 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: passed in nineteen o six, and it made adulteration of 413 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: maple syrup with good close illegal. In nineteen sixty six, 414 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: Robert Lamb, not not not our Robert Lamb. No, not 415 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: that Robert Lamb patented a plastic tubing system for getting 416 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: your maple syrup. Meanwhile, researchers had begun experimenting with that 417 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: reverse osmosis for water filtration around the nineteen fifties. I 418 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: have been around for a couple of centuries before then, 419 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: but they really in earnest started in the nineteen fifties, 420 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: specifically forgetting the salt out of salt water. By the 421 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, maple farmers began applying this technology to syrup production. 422 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: In nineteen the Maple Syrup Institute was formed, and similar 423 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: to most organizations we've talked about that are sort of 424 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: like the Mushroom Council um, the goal was to set 425 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: standards and to increase awareness and to increase sales. Of course, 426 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: and these days many maple farms are implementing a lot 427 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: of green energy technology, solar and wind power, even methane 428 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: from cow manure as a sort of up cycled fuel, 429 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: and this is less expensive in the long run than 430 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: traditional grid power. But the push for cleaner energy sources 431 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: is perhaps particularly important to maple sugar farmers because climate 432 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: change and global warming are particularly threatening to them. Shorter 433 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: winters means shorter sugaring seasons and thus lower yield, and eventually, 434 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: in some areas that may see like significantly higher temperatures 435 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: and less rainfall, less healthy trees and an even lower 436 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: yield over time. Uh, though that is partially being offset 437 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: by improvements and other technologies for example, sanitation, UH, SAP 438 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: collection techniques that those reverse osmoses machines, evaporators, they're all 439 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: getting more efficient all the time, both in terms of 440 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: energy use and total output of SAP per tree, more 441 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: efficient all the time. That's the history portion I am. 442 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: I found this excellent, very thorough document from a I 443 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: believe a maple syrup museum, and it went like on 444 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: into every every type of spout that had ever been 445 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: used or just that's so much detail, and I glossed 446 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: over it in here, but it exists out there. There's 447 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: so much information. Should you like to want to dig 448 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: in more? Um? Yeah, if you want to go down 449 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: that rabbit hole or tap the hole as the case, 450 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: maybe it's there. It is there. And I loved it 451 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: too because it was like someone told me once, you 452 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: can tell when someone is really good at their job 453 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: if their website is bad because they're too busy to 454 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: update our Yeah, And it was so it's very much 455 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: like that. It's very very bad. Yes you're listening if 456 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: whatever museum it was, it was great. I loved the 457 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: whole thing, great experience. Um, okay, so we do have 458 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of science for you. We do, but 459 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: first one more quick word from our sponsor and we're back. 460 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsored, Yes, thank you. So uh. There are 461 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: folk remedies a plenty involving maple sap and syrup, perhaps 462 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: mostly for digestive and throat sort of issues, but it's 463 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: also been taken orally for all kinds of things, mostly 464 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: in the preventative category, but there is some maple syrup 465 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: science in terms of medicine. There's a compound in maple 466 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: syrup that may help fight inflammatory diseases like arthritis. A compound, 467 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: you say, a compound as as you boil maple sap 468 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: into syrup, one of the molecules that forms has been 469 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: found to make our immune system just kind of chill 470 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: out a little bit. Uh. Specifically, it inhibits the secretion 471 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: of a couple of pro inflammatory signal proteins. In Inflammation 472 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: is part of the body's useful immune system of getting 473 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: extra resources to an injured area to help it heal. 474 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: But in diseases like arthritis, the immune system has started 475 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: attacking your own healthy tissue, causing needless inflammation and pain 476 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: and reduced function, and a lot of the current medicines 477 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: for treating this, you know, steroids, for example, have have 478 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: seriously negative side effects, especially when used in the long term. 479 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: So this compound out of maple syrup is potentially really amazing. 480 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: That sounds like something my uncle would say about me. 481 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: It's she's potentially really amazing. More, more work needs to 482 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: be done. She could get there, though, dang. Researchers named 483 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: not not you or your uncle, but rather this compound 484 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: um quebec all. Oh, I love it after quebec and 485 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: they've been able to synthesize it, which is extra great 486 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: because that way you don't have to take large amounts 487 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: of maple syrup to get this compound out of Uh. Yeah, 488 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: and more research is needed. More work is needed, but 489 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: potentially really amazing. Yeah, and there's more more. Yes. Quebec 490 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: all and a few other compounds of maple syrup have 491 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: been owned to inhibit the growth of some cancer cells 492 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: and to boost the effectiveness of antibiotics and the higher 493 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: grade syrups. The darkest ones typically harvested later in the 494 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: year as the maple trees start to prepare for their 495 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: new growing season. They have the most of these compounds 496 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: in them interesting, which does not mean that you should 497 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: just go out and start dousing everything in the most 498 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: expensive maple syrup that you can find, no um, But 499 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: it does mean that in like five or ten years, 500 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: treatments that use extracts of maple syrup may be helping 501 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: us all stay healthier. That's cool, Thanks maple syrup. Thank 502 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: you maple syrup. Just using you on pancakes, but all alone, 503 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: we've had our health and mind. It kind of reminds 504 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: me of honey a little bit. Oh yeah, yeah. It's 505 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: stuff that plants bank is good for us sometimes sometimes, 506 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: and stuff that bees vomit is good for us sometimes too. 507 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're out it here first and this brings is 508 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: too listener, man, Oh that was a good one. We're 509 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: getting better at this. We are. We're finding our method slowly, 510 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: but surely. Eventually we're just gonna have to have a 511 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: Broadway show. Oh clearly, that's this is the starts seed. 512 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: But we will flourish. Is it going to be about 513 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: the dunker? The dunker will be in it. The dunker 514 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: will be in it. Um what. We still have a 515 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: lot of work to do, but I think we'll get there. 516 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: It's actually amazing, Yates, potentially really amazing everyone. Nick rote, 517 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: I was recently listening to your episode on expiration Dates 518 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: UM and best Before Dates. You both indicated that you've 519 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: tried to make sense of a lot of codes printed 520 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: on food packaging but couldn't figure it out. Yes, I've 521 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: worked for two a large consumer of food manufacturers, and 522 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: I thought I would shed some light on this. No, 523 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: two companies are going to use the same coding system, 524 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: but most will share some common features. Many large companies 525 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: use a Julian date to represent the date the food 526 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: was packaged. This will usually be a four digit code 527 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: where the first number represents the year and the other 528 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: three start with zero zero one for January one and 529 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: go all the way through three six for December thirty one. 530 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: Leap years, though, everything off because it will go up 531 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: to three six six those years. They always throw things 532 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 1: off those leap years UM. So for example, today, which 533 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: was April six eighteen, will be written as eight one 534 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: zero six eight for the year one hundred and six, 535 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: because it's the one hundred sixth day of this year. 536 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: Every food que a person worth his or her salt 537 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: will have a Julian date calendar handy for just this purpose. 538 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: The other numbers are harder to figure out, but usually 539 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: represent them the manufacturing location, the line the product was 540 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: produced on, and the time the product was packaged. It 541 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: can be very confusing system going from one company to 542 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: the next, but once you know the code, it's awesome 543 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: how much information is hidden in that little string of 544 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: numbers and letters. Yes, I I. Especially since starting this show, 545 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: I can often be found in the local public's just 546 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: staring at packages, trying to make sense of things. And 547 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: that number I've I've never been able to I was nowhere, 548 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: nowhere near. So thank you very much, Nick for illuminating 549 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: string of numbers for us. I love that there's like 550 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: a little calendar that you would just carry, just carry around, 551 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: flip out day of the year. We need to get 552 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: one of those, Oh, we absolutely do. All right, let's 553 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: figure that out, Maggie wrote, I just finished listening to 554 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: your Edibles episode from Sunny Los Angeles and wanted to 555 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: tell you what a party for twenty was this year. 556 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: Since cannabis is now legal for adult use, everyone, as 557 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: you noted, has jumped on the bandwagon. Restaurants, ice cream shops, 558 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: bars and more. We're offering specials and continue to do 559 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: so on a regular basis with cannabis oil. There was 560 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: signage all over town celebrating the holiday, as well as 561 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: multiple festivals over the weekend. On four twenty, I went 562 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: to my favorite dispensary and they had four dollar and 563 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: twenty cent specials. After dealing with insomnia and depression, I 564 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: decided to try edibles and got my medical card about 565 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: a year ago. It's been really wild how much my 566 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: perspective on the drug has changed. It truly is a 567 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: great way to relax without the fear of a hangover 568 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: or creating an unhealthy habit. Everything in moderation. Of course, 569 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you did this episode, and I 570 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: hope it helps to destigmatize what can be a truly 571 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: helpful thing for a lot of people. Yeah, I wrote back, 572 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: and to me, this is wild that we're in the 573 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: same country. Yeah, I can't fathom it's so different here. 574 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, very very very very different it But 575 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: that's really that's really cool to hear about um. And yeah, 576 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: it's it can be helpful, helpful for people, and I 577 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: hope that we do get rid of the stigma. Yeah. 578 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: The stigma and the laws work work forward, Yes, moving 579 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: fullard um. Thank you to both of them for writing 580 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: in as always, Thanks to everyone who's sending pictures of pets. 581 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: Keep becoming so the best. Yes, our email is a 582 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: food Stuff at how stuff Works at dot com. We'd 583 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: love to hear from you. Yes, you can also reach 584 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: us on social media. We are on Facebook and Twitter 585 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: at food Stuff. Hs W stands for how Stuff Works. 586 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: We're also on Instagram at food Stuff. We hope to 587 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: hear from you. Thank you, as always to our super producer, 588 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: Dylan Fagan, who's invisible right now, but I think he'll 589 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: be kepting back onto this wavelength relatively sound. He is 590 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: a super a superhero, yes, and invisibility is one of 591 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: his many gifts. It is Oh no, we've revealed his secret. Well, 592 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: we did, sound like we gave away his superhero name 593 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: for the worst. Never trust us with your super can 594 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: never edit this out either, that is not within the 595 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: realm of his superhero abilities. Thank you to you for 596 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: listening and for keeping Dylan's secret right, and we hope 597 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: that lots more good things are coming your way. Hello 598 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Annie Reese and I'm 599 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: Annie Reese, and today on food stuff we're trying an experiment. Um. Well, Dylan, 600 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: I are super producer, Dylan. Um, we've been talking about cloning, 601 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: and uh, well I figured it out. So there are 602 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: two Annie's in the studio now. It is weird. I'm 603 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: trying to like not freak out about it. We haven't 604 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: told the scientific community or anything because, um, I don't know. 605 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: It feels like it feels like it could be used 606 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: for evil, don't you think, Annie? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, 607 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I appreciate that I um that 608 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: I exist. But I mean yesterday I was nothing, and 609 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: now I'm a twenty nine year old woman who's just 610 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: always hungry, and I'm not like, I'm not sure what 611 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: to do or what any of this all means. Yeah, 612 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: I think we all feel that way it. I mean, 613 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: you're only a day old right now, so yeah, you're 614 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: just gonna have to get used to it. Um. And 615 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: the way that I do that is by eating a 616 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: lot of food. I'm drinking drinking a lot of beer wine, 617 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: um a and a lot too. I mean, you find 618 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: things to distract yourself, I suppose, But anyway, just try 619 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: not to like you too weirded out by this whole situation. Okay, 620 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: Lauren will be back later because she's really busy and um, 621 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: we needed a quick fix. So it's too an easy 622 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: day and we're going to talk about maple syrup. Unfortunately, UM, 623 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: I was really counting on having Lauren here for this 624 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: because I've actually never had a real maple syrup, and 625 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: neither of you. Clearly she's only existed for one day. 626 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: Um oh, man, I gotta say it. It's so strange 627 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: because like if you, I'm worried, I'm going to be 628 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: very very jealous of like the life that you get 629 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: up to. Maybe you're going to try maple syrup before me, 630 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be really upsetting. And I also just 631 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: a dynamic we're gonna have, Like I'll be honest, I'm 632 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: always going to see you a bit different because you're 633 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: like you might be twenty nine, but you don't have 634 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: to live the experience that I do, so it's like 635 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: you're a child. It's so straight. Anyway, back to maple syrup. 636 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I think I think what would be 637 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: best is, um, maybe we should wait for Lauren