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Speaker 1: What is up? Chargers fans?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Guilty of Charge podcast, presented by the

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Speaker 2: Chargers Podcast Network. My name is Stephen. I am the

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Speaker 2: host as always, and joined me as my guy Tyler. Tyler,

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Speaker 2: what's up my hand doing today?

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Speaker 1: Great? Matty? Looko we're doing?

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Speaker 3: This is fantastic and it was a great, great day

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Speaker 3: of practice. And I don't know if you can tell

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Speaker 3: behind us, the clouds came out, so we are in

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Speaker 3: heaven over here right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was actually good weather. The first few minutes

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Speaker 2: were dicey. I brought the bucket hat it says on

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Speaker 2: because the hair is kind of a mess right now.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a great day of practice, so

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to dive into all of that.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: We have a great interview for you guys with Chargers

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Speaker 2: running Back Joshua Kelly, which we'll get to in a second.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: As always, Tyler and I are fans of the team

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Speaker 2: just like you guys are. We've been given this platform,

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Speaker 2: but the opinions that we express on this show are

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Speaker 2: not always reflective of the Chargers organization. And yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: get to it. So, without further ado, here is Charges

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Speaker 2: running Back Joshua Kelly. All right, we are super stoked

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Speaker 2: to be joined by charges running back mister Joshua. Kelly, Joshua,

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Speaker 2: how are you doing today? How was practicing? I'm doing good.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Practice was so awesome. Had a

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Speaker 2: good day. It was nice and fun out here. You know, competition, man,

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Speaker 2: the vibes. It's just great to be back out here

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Speaker 2: in camp. To be honest, man, yeah, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: know about you, but like from a fan perspective, the

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Speaker 2: offseason feels just was a little long this year. What

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Speaker 2: was the excitement level just in terms of getting back

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Speaker 2: to practice with all the guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's crazy you say that, because this definitely

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Speaker 4: felt like the longest off season I've ever had. It

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Speaker 4: was just long, and I'm just like, man, like, it's

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Speaker 4: just crazy the fact that we're actually back now, because

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Speaker 4: I'm excited, you know, I was actually prepared like a

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks earlier.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, let's just get this thing going. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, now that we're back, bro, it's just good.

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Speaker 4: It's just good to be back. Good to be out

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Speaker 4: here just getting the kinks out and practicing. Man, it's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Last off season was so important for you and it

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Speaker 3: really turned into the best season of your career. In

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Speaker 3: this long offseason, what did you work on did you

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Speaker 3: continue to improve on whatever you worked on last year?

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Speaker 1: Was there something different? Right? No, that's a good question.

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Speaker 4: I feel like to me, I just really worked on

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Speaker 4: a lot of the things I did really well at

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Speaker 4: and got better at those. You know, for me, the

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Speaker 4: run game is really slowing down, just getting better at that,

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Speaker 4: watching more tape at that, you know, in the past game,

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Speaker 4: trying to do my best you know in pass pro,

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Speaker 1: But I've just been really working on some.

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Speaker 4: Of the same things the last offseason, but just getting

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Speaker 4: better and better at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, it's been exciting, man Like, just approaching each off

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Speaker 1: This is like, how can I get better at my

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Speaker 1: strengths already?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously no pads. Yeah, we're recording this on Saturday, right,

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Speaker 2: But you know there's been an emphasis on the run game.

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Speaker 2: I feel like with Kellen coming over, how do you

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Speaker 2: feel like that process has gone for you guys?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's been good.

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Speaker 4: I just like, as a collective, there's been so much

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Speaker 4: let's get this run game going, and that's just always

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Speaker 4: great to hear.

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Speaker 1: Man, I play running back. That's awesome, you know.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's been good man, Like in the meetings,

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Speaker 4: we're all excited. You know, we're learning about it, and

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Speaker 4: I just like to study so much ranking like whether

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Speaker 4: it's wide zone, duo, outside zone, inside zone. Man, I

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Speaker 4: study so much of it because you know, the run

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to hear that the Kellen Moore play

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Man, he's got some crazy runs in there.

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Speaker 4: I love it, man, like all the stuff that we

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Speaker 1: The playbook that was apparently a big playbook.

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Speaker 3: We've heard it from Quintin Johnson and you now apparently

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Speaker 3: it's a thick playbook. But it sounds like I'm talking

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Speaker 3: to the assistant coaches and listening to interviews. Is a

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Speaker 3: real emphasis on quality over quantity this time around. How

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Speaker 3: does the help you guys to focus on just listen

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Speaker 3: if we only do five things, right, Yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: done really really well rather twenty different things.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Like he told us that during OTA is he's like, look,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna keep hammering that.

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Speaker 1: So that's awesome. You know, play to your team strings. Right.

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Speaker 4: So he's done an excell the job at that, man, Like,

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Speaker 4: he's been part of the best offenses in NFL history

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of weapons on this offense. So yeah, man, like,

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Speaker 4: I really feel like we work hard and we can

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Speaker 4: just continuously trust in ourselves and learn it.

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Speaker 1: We can do something.

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Speaker 3: Man, no pads yet. But what do you feel like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to be honest, I think the best thing so

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Speaker 4: far is our communication as the office has been better.

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously you've said it's like, Okay, there's no

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Speaker 4: a little bit tougher to evaluate that. But one thing

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Speaker 4: just it's gonna be exciting, man.

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Speaker 1: We're making plays out here, so it helps with.

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Speaker 3: Past protection and communication getting better. What specifically or how

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Speaker 1: Basically? Is it just reps or is there a different

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Speaker 4: No, it's definitely a different way of being taught, and

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Speaker 4: also reps as well. I feel like reps do help.

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Speaker 4: But if there's communication from you know, QB offensive line

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Speaker 4: me Like, we're over here talking about communicating. We know

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Speaker 4: if we know who we're blocking, it's like, man, like

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Speaker 4: now it's even harder to stop this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm never saying I think the offensive line

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Speaker 2: I feel like and coach NuGen recently had a quote

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Speaker 2: Like what does that kind of alignment up front and

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I have a lot of trust with those guys.

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Speaker 4: Some of these dudes I've been playing for like two

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Speaker 4: a lot of these guys man, like it's the same group.

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Speaker 4: So for me, it's like, Dan, there's all this chemistry

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Speaker 1: So that's great.

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Speaker 4: You know, for me as a back, it's like, dang,

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Speaker 4: I kind of know exactly how each guy blocks, and

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Speaker 4: this is where single was are double team's going. It's cool, bro.

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Speaker 4: But those guys man their dogs up front. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I feel gona be fun. Sorry to cut you off there.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the understanding throughout your growth. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is your third offense in four years. Yeah, you've

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Speaker 4: seen a lot of things at this point in your

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, you can see each system, how each system works.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's pretty cool though.

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Speaker 4: You know, playing with so many different systems, you get

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Speaker 4: a general sense of football knowledge, which is really cool.

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Speaker 4: So similar things throughout each offense, so you know, all

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Speaker 4: right outside zone, like what's the concept and then you

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Speaker 4: But boom, it's cool, bro, Like every system is unique

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Speaker 4: and that just helps with the IQ though.

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Speaker 1: Nice regardless of system.

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Speaker 3: One of the things you talked about with our guy

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Speaker 3: like the stat for a running back to determine success,

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Speaker 3: and you said, yards after contact through attempt. If there's

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Speaker 4: That's a good point to any new running back, whether

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Speaker 4: the best thing to improve at that is to get strong.

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Speaker 4: I felt like when you really get strong in the

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Speaker 4: I'm so obsessed with doing lower body workouts, biometrics, you know,

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Speaker 4: but not every runner is elusive like that, you know.

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Speaker 4: So I think the biggest the biggest thing is like learning, like, okay,

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Speaker 4: like how's my style of runs?

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Speaker 1: Like for me, in one cutting downhill.

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Speaker 4: So I really tried to master all right, exploding through contact,

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Speaker 4: lower pad leverage, and then watching some of the best

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Speaker 4: guys in the league who do it, you know, Chubb Jacobs,

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Speaker 4: There're some of the best guys at that. So I'm watching, like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: you know, body types to me. Like for me to

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Speaker 4: watch someone who's like a scat that's elusive may not

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Speaker 4: be you know, it may not work for me. So

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Speaker 4: you gotta find, okay, what works for me? What's my style?

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Speaker 4: And like how can I build on what I'm really

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: But getting powerful though, getting strong and powerful that will help,

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Speaker 4: that will help, man, trust me.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've only had a few days of

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Speaker 2: practice obviously, but I feel like you and Isaiah are

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Speaker 2: much more involved in the passing game as like route runners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how has that adjustment been for you?

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Speaker 4: you so much for your time. You nothing about the best.

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Speaker 4: Hope you stay healthy and that year. Appreciate you, guys. Man,

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Speaker 4: let's go bolt up baby, all right? Tyler Hugh shout

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Speaker 2: Any takeaways from that little interview there.

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Speaker 3: do before in their previous regime. And that's really exciting

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Speaker 3: not going to improve or grow. We can't keep them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that going around, Like you

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Speaker 2: You know, we talked with Eric Smith last week about

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Speaker 2: week basis is just something that's so important to this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just looks different. Right, So, Mike Williams works

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cowboys with Kellen Moore have used three wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was not down here for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes with the offense previously there was the designated

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Speaker 3: But with this team, you're seeing guys catch forty yard

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Speaker 3: mix back in with that first team.

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Speaker 1: It was still a mix between the two.

437
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Speaker 3: I don't think it was one guy dominated and the

438
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,720
Speaker 3: other guy sat on the bench or whatever.

439
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was a really nice mix. I know.

440
00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,280
Speaker 3: Of the last couple of days, I believe yes or

441
00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,119
Speaker 3: on Thursday, Santa Silma Junia had a pass breakup, he

442
00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,879
Speaker 3: nearly had an interception today. He had two passes broken up,

443
00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,159
Speaker 3: a pick six today and I think he would have

444
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,960
Speaker 3: had another interception today if he didn't let the other

445
00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,480
Speaker 3: defensive back try to go for the.

446
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Speaker 1: Ball on that long ball.

447
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Speaker 3: So he's he's been excellent and if it's a battle,

448
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,080
Speaker 3: he's battling and he's certainly earning the right to be

449
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Speaker 3: out there.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like we talked about, you know, we knew that

451
00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,520
Speaker 2: a Sante would step up to this task, and I

452
00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,240
Speaker 2: think he's done that. You know, there's no pads yet.

453
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Speaker 2: We've got to see about the run defense, but I

454
00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,160
Speaker 2: saw has been great. Michael Davis was great today too.

455
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,840
Speaker 2: You know I mentioned that three x one formation and

456
00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,600
Speaker 2: Michael Davis is always on the outside and it's been

457
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,720
Speaker 2: him against Mike Williams him against Joshua Palmer, and there's

458
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,800
Speaker 2: been some really good battles. Michael Davis today had two

459
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Speaker 2: pass breakups that I counted. He's just so steady over there,

460
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,800
Speaker 2: and you know, his ability to kind of control that

461
00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,600
Speaker 2: sideline is something that has really stood out to me

462
00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,160
Speaker 2: that he's improved upon just from technique standpoint, whether he's

463
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,480
Speaker 2: mashed up one on one, whether he's in zone coverage,

464
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 2: he's really great at shutting that sideline down right now,

465
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Speaker 2: and it's showing up in practice so far.

466
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Speaker 3: What a difference between last year and this year. I

467
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Speaker 3: mean last year it's like, oh, Michael Davis is making

468
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Speaker 3: ten million dollars to be a gunner, and now he's

469
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Speaker 3: out there and he's crushing it as arguably the best

470
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Speaker 3: corner maybe even defensive back on the team. He plays

471
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Speaker 3: so well and is improving so much. And the one

472
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Speaker 3: thing he really had to do to take that next

473
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Speaker 3: step for maybe all pro consideration, pro Bowl consideration, was

474
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Speaker 3: get his hands on the football, get those forced and completions.

475
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Speaker 3: And we sort of started to see that last year,

476
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Speaker 3: and then the second half of last year he really

477
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Speaker 3: turned it on and was a shutdown corner one of

478
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Speaker 3: the best in the league. So if he can continue

479
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,280
Speaker 3: to do that, and if jac Jackson can go back

480
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,119
Speaker 3: to being mister interception lead the league interceptions, and then

481
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Speaker 3: of course we'll see what the battle with the slot

482
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Speaker 3: corner brings. But it's a fantastic group. Like, yes, the

483
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,919
Speaker 3: offense has been great and there's been plenty of explosive plays,

484
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Speaker 3: but these dbs are battling just as much too.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been an incredible watch so far. Ja Here

486
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 2: had some tough moments in coverage, but he also made

487
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 2: a lot of good plays in the screen game today

488
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Speaker 2: that I noticed, you know, cutting in front of blockers

489
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Speaker 2: that way. You know, we saw a clip of Brandon Staley,

490
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Speaker 2: I want to say from Wednesday's practice, highlighting justear's play

491
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Speaker 2: against the run in particular. So this is gonna be

492
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Speaker 2: a battle I think all throughout training camp and once J. C.

493
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Speaker 2: Jackson continues to ramp up, I think that's also something

494
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Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. But any other defensive or

495
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Speaker 2: offensive standouts you want to mention here, Tyler, Yeah, I.

496
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Speaker 3: Would say overall. Granted there's no pads here, so I'm

497
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Speaker 3: saying this. Everybody knows that I will say the run

498
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 3: defense again, no pads, was reading and reacting and snuffing

499
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Speaker 3: everything out really really well today, both in the screen

500
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Speaker 3: game and against the run.

501
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Speaker 1: And I do want to shout out Raheem Man.

502
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Speaker 3: Of course we've talked about is you know this at

503
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Speaker 3: least a course special teamer maybe safety four on this team.

504
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Speaker 1: But I thought J T.

505
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Speaker 3: Woods did a phenomenal job reading and reacting and getting

506
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Speaker 3: to the football, which was not a question really of

507
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 3: ours about him coming out of college. You look at

508
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 3: even the mistackles at Baylor, and he was always in

509
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Speaker 3: the right position. Again, there's no tackling, there's no pads.

510
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Speaker 3: But in the screen game and against the run, J T.

511
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: Woods was right there, which is at this point in

512
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Speaker 3: training camp all you can ask for.

513
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Speaker 1: Yeah, J T. Woods had had a really good day.

514
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Speaker 2: Would love to see him get some more action deep

515
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Speaker 2: because that's what he does best. But he's had he's

516
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 2: had a good camp so far. Taiwan Mullen, the undrafted

517
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 2: free agent corner, had himself a couple of pass breakups today,

518
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 2: mostly against the second team ODE receivers. Covering Keelan Doss

519
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: was one, John high Tower was another one. But so

520
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 2: this dB death I think is showing up. And then

521
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 2: of course, man like we got to talk about Justin Herbert,

522
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Speaker 2: Like this man is dialed in and aggressive. You know,

523
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Speaker 2: he talked about after the contract on Wednesday that he's

524
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Speaker 2: been playing free and he's been able to just kind

525
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Speaker 2: of let loose, and I think we're really seeing that

526
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Speaker 2: where it's not as intentional for him to go through

527
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Speaker 2: his progressions. He's intent on attacking vertically, and you know

528
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Speaker 2: that's definitely showing up out here. I think it's putting

529
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Speaker 2: on a show for the fans right now.

530
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Speaker 3: Yeah, not every game is going to be fun. Not

531
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Speaker 3: every snap against Bill Belichick's defense is going to be

532
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Speaker 3: all that fun. I'm sure Fangio has got some things

533
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Speaker 3: cooked up for Week one, but he just looks happier

534
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Speaker 3: and the explosive plays are there, and the relationship with

535
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Speaker 3: him and Kellimore, it seems you can kind of see

536
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Speaker 3: it on the field, you see it in photos, the

537
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Speaker 3: way they talk about each other, like it's just a

538
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: great relationship between the two of them. So if he

539
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Speaker 3: can play every game at least feeling like he did

540
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Speaker 3: against Miami, where yeah, Keenan Allan, Mike Williams, those guys

541
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Speaker 3: being out there helped, but he was just free and

542
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Speaker 3: loose and letting it rip.

543
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Speaker 1: Like that version of Justin.

544
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Speaker 3: Herbert is here to stay well and by the way,

545
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Speaker 3: he's healthy like this, this vertical offense is here to stay.

546
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Speaker 3: Not every game's going to be you know, fifty deep passes,

547
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Speaker 3: of course, but there are certainly going to be days

548
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: where they are they're pushing it and they're gonna do

549
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 3: it really well.

550
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Speaker 1: And Herbert looks thrilled to be doing it.

551
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Speaker 2: And looks like we got some like dark clouds coming

552
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Speaker 2: over here. This is crazy, but yeah, the ballplacement for

553
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert today was so outstanding, and it felt like

554
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Speaker 2: every time that there was a tight window, it was

555
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Speaker 2: hitting a completion right on the money. Yeah, and you

556
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Speaker 2: can just it just feels different for Justin this year,

557
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: whereas the last two years it kind of felt like

558
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Speaker 2: almost like he was feeling things out when I was

559
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Speaker 2: at training camp. This year, it feels like he's fully

560
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Speaker 2: comfortable and we were seeing that, you know, be expressed

561
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Speaker 2: in a very aggressive vertical manner so far in training camp.

562
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been outstanding to watch him push the ball

563
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Speaker 3: down the field because there's now this chemistry built in

564
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Speaker 3: between Justin Herbert and these wide receivers through years of

565
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Speaker 3: working together and just trusting each other. Obviously, we know

566
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Speaker 3: Mike William's fantastic. He knew anything underrated in that regard.

567
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: But you're seeing this perfect combination of Kellen Moore actually

568
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: just asking Justin Herbert to take those chances, which he

569
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: wasn't really able to do at least a minimum in

570
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Speaker 3: camp last year. So he's getting to take more chances.

571
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert never turns the ball over. His interception it

572
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: interceptible ball rate is among the lowest in the league

573
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Speaker 3: for all his years in the league. So you have that,

574
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Speaker 3: and then you have these receivers like Mike William, Josh Palmer, etc.

575
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Speaker 3: Quentin Johnson who can go up and go get it.

576
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Speaker 3: It's a perfect mesh of everything. And by the way,

577
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Speaker 3: this is probably their best offensive line in years.

578
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one d percent. So some minor things to get

579
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Speaker 2: to before we wrap up today. Corey Lindsley did not

580
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Speaker 2: practice today. We were told that it was due to

581
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Speaker 2: the potential birth of his child. His wife is pregnant

582
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Speaker 2: and expecting. So Will Clapp was with the first team

583
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Speaker 2: offense mostly and then Brendan Himis was rotating in at

584
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Speaker 2: center with the second team today. That's been a change

585
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Speaker 2: for him, He's been working at center more often this year.

586
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: And then Trey Pipkins was not practicing today in the

587
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: team sessions. Brandon Stady said that was mostly precautionary, so

588
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: there's apparently something happened or something like that in the

589
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: individual drills and they just wanted to be careful with Trey,

590
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Speaker 2: so Foster Serell was working exclusively at right tackle, and

591
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Speaker 2: then there was a pretty heavy rotation in the second

592
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Speaker 2: unit with Austin Pleasants and those guys who unfortunately to

593
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Speaker 2: get injured today, but Foster Srell was the only right

594
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Speaker 2: tackle today to get reps.

595
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is sort of a good problem right now

596
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,479
Speaker 3: to have where you know your five offensive lineman starters

597
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: are set, so you really can mix and match guys

598
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: in and if some guys need rest or they take

599
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: extra precautions to make sure these guys are healthy. We

600
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Speaker 3: don't know the nature of the injury for Trey Pipkins,

601
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: but he was hurt several times last year dealing with

602
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: the same injury, so you know, if Corey Linsley needs

603
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 3: a day off, Tree Pickins needs a day off. Some

604
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: of these guys just needs some time for whatever reason.

605
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: That's fine. We know they're the starters. There's no battle.

606
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: We don't have to figure out who the starter is here.

607
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Speaker 3: It's actually good that the depth is getting on the field.

608
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of that death, Brandon say he was

609
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: asked about it and he said he reiterated that they

610
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Speaker 2: are high on Zach Bailey as an Intoier player. So

611
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: he's mostly been working at right guard from what i've

612
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: what I saw today, Jordan mcfannen and himss would rotate

613
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: in at left guard, but they like Zach Bailey a

614
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 2: lot as a reserve guard. Hard to tell really like

615
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 2: how that's working out without pads on, but that's kind

616
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 2: of how the offensive line is shaking out. A couple

617
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: other notes here. Chris Hinton, the defensive tackle, worked in

618
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Speaker 2: a lot with the first team unit today. Again hard

619
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Speaker 2: to tell without pads, but he was heavily involved with

620
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Speaker 2: that first team unit. You know, he would come in

621
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Speaker 2: for knows when Sebastian would come out, or he would

622
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Speaker 2: come in at three tech when Morgan Fox would come out.

623
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Speaker 2: But he's the only one rotating with the first team Scott, Mattlocke,

624
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Speaker 2: Nick Williams, Grod Clark. All those guys are all second

625
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Speaker 2: and third team. So it seems like they're really high

626
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: on Chris Hinton this.

627
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: Year, which is awesome to see and this that would

628
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: make a starting trio or now, of course these guys

629
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 3: might come back from injury of a coach ed guy,

630
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Speaker 3: a coach ed guy, and a coach ed guy.

631
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of chemistry. Shout out coach ed.

632
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: The defensive line coach who works with these guys, and

633
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: they've all built chemistry with each other over the course

634
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: of the off season in several seasons, I'm sure you know.

635
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Speaker 3: And part of when I talked to Morgan Fox, part

636
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: of their success of the rush that they had, which

637
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 3: is getting to know each.

638
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: Other and how to rush with one another.

639
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: So if they already had this pre established communication and

640
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 3: again Chris Hinton, he will move down the depth chart

641
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: when guy's return, but if he's looking great, like they're

642
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: going to be really really solid from the jump because

643
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: they already know how to work.

644
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Speaker 1: With each other because they work with each other for

645
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Speaker 1: over the offseason.

646
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the other defensive rotation thing I wanted to point

647
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: out JT. Woods almost exclusively the only safety to get

648
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: reps with the first seen defense outside of Derwin James

649
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: and Alohi Gilman. It really seems like they're intentional getting

650
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: him those reps. You talked about him earlier. One thing

651
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: that they've really experimented with is like your base package,

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Speaker 2: where Derwin is your edge rusher instead of your five dbs,

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Speaker 2: you don't have a nickel corner, so they're bringing Durwin

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Speaker 2: up to the edge, and then that's where Alohi and JT.

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Speaker 2: Woods were working back. But it's not just a deep

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Speaker 2: safety for j T. Wood this year, like he's playing

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Speaker 2: in the box. He got some reps in the slot today,

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Speaker 2: So it seems like they're much more comfortable with him

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Speaker 2: this year, at least based off of the reps that

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Speaker 2: we've seen thus far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the best combination of this defense is when Derwin

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Speaker 3: James will be allowed to move around.

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Speaker 1: Can you play deep? Sure?

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Speaker 3: Of course he's good at really everything, but allowing to

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Speaker 3: actually go do everything is important.

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Speaker 1: So if J T.

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Speaker 3: Woods can take that jump and really focus on because

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Speaker 3: he was always running track, that was never like, yes,

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Speaker 3: football was a priority, but there's always something else going on.

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Speaker 1: Now it's just football.

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Speaker 3: And so if he's able to lock in on that

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Speaker 3: and be the safety that they drafted him to be,

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Speaker 3: or at least be able to contribute enough, and him

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Speaker 3: and Ralhem Lane to able to contribute enough to free

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Speaker 3: up Derwin James, you can't help but smile watching Derwen

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Speaker 3: James at edge, and the Chargers wanted to do that

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Speaker 3: last year.

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Speaker 1: Watched them against the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: It was Khalil Mack next to Derwin James, which is

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Speaker 3: the most unholy, unfair thing you could do to an offense.

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Speaker 1: But they did it. They want to do it because

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Speaker 1: they have those tools.

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Speaker 3: So if you can play out there freely without the

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Speaker 3: responsibility are being forced to have to play deep safety

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Speaker 3: all the time, defense is gonna look amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. One other offensive rotation, I forgot

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Speaker 2: to mention Isaiah Spiller and Joshua Kelly both getting pretty

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Speaker 2: bunch a fifty to fifty split with the first team

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Speaker 2: offense and then also the second team offense been both

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Speaker 2: of them too, So that's another change for Isaiah Spiller.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to see him be able to get those chances,

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Speaker 2: and him and Joshua Kelly are essentially splitting that first

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Speaker 2: team unit. Joshua Kelly so far, much more involved in

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Speaker 2: the run game, still working as a pass catcher like

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Speaker 2: we talked about with him. But Isaiah Spiller, the way

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Speaker 2: that you're they've been using him so far is a

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Speaker 2: lot as a pass catcher thus far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what we saw last year throughout training camp.

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Speaker 3: It was Isaiah Spiller down the sideline, down angle route, whatever,

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Speaker 3: like he was fantastic at those, and then they just

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Speaker 3: never kind of found a way to get him onto

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Speaker 3: the field, whether they brought up Larry round Tree, they

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Speaker 3: signed Sony Michelle, they Joshua Kelly, et cetera. They really

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Speaker 3: never found a way to get him back in vault

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Speaker 3: as a pass catcher. But it's really encouraging to see

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Speaker 3: because last year Spiller was working in is that fourth guy.

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Speaker 3: Now he's you know, to be at worst at this point.

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Speaker 3: To see him working down the field as a pass

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Speaker 3: catcher is really fantastic to see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the rotation notes. One note on the

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Speaker 2: kicking battle. We saw Dustin Hopkins kick on Thursday. Cameron

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Speaker 2: Dicker kicked today. Cameron Dicker was eight of nine. His

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Speaker 2: only miss was from forty one ish yards that I counted,

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Speaker 2: So one little note about the kicking battle. But Cameron

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Speaker 2: Dicker had a good day today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank goodness. It's a privilege to watch special teams overall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a lot of focus with Ryan Ficken

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Speaker 2: this here, So all right, Tyler, any foul thoughts before

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Speaker 2: we head out today.

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here, honestly.

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Speaker 3: This has been fantastic just sitting here with you at

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Speaker 3: Josha mc kelly being on the field. It's been a

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Speaker 3: fantastic experience and we'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I cannot think the charge is enough for giving us

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Speaker 2: this opportunity, as they do every single week. We are

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Speaker 2: recording this on Saturday, like you can potentially see right now,

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Speaker 2: there is going to be a practice on Monday, so

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Speaker 2: we did not cover any of that obviously because we're

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Speaker 2: recording this before that. So go back and watch this.

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Speaker 2: After you watched this episode, go back and watch Tyler's

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Speaker 2: video from Monday on our channel. Make sure and subscribe

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Speaker 2: to both channels. We do really appreciate that, and thanks

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Speaker 2: everybody for tuning in. That's gonna do it for us today.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time as always, both time