1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: If they've told me ABC and D or how they 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: want to show up as a partner and they're not 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: doing those things, that's an opportunity to seek clarity. Because 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: if they're saying they're not willing to do those things 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: with you, but they know that those are what they 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: want to do as a partner. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 3: You ain't it. 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Boot. 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: It's time to move on because they don't want you 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: as a partner. Hey, lady, have you ever felt like 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: the world just doesn't get you? Well, we do. 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, the podcast dedicated to uplifting 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: and empowering women like you. 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: We're your hosts, doctor Dominique Brussard and educator and psychologists. 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: And Terry Lomax, a techie and transformational speaker. 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Join us every week for authentic conversations about everything from 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: fibroids to fake friends as we create space for black 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: women to just b Before. 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: We dive in, make sure you hit that follow button 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: and leave us a quick five star review. 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: Lady. 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: We are black founded and black owned, and your support 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: will help us reach even more women like you. 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: Now, let's get into this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: It's doctor dom here from the Cultivating her Space podcast. 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: Are you currently a resident of the state of California 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: and contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so, please 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brusard dot com. 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: That's d R D O M I N I q 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: U E B R O U ss ar D dot 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: com to schedule a free fifteen minute consultation. I look 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: forward to hearing from you. 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: Our quote of the day. 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Every person you date reflects something back to you, not 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: to judge you, but to show you where you've healed, 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: where you're still growing, and where you're ready to choose differently. Ooh, lady, 38 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: that was a mouthful, and I need to say it 39 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: again for the folks in the back to make sure 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: we all heard it. Every person you date reflects something 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: back to you, not to judge you, but to show 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: you where you've healed, where you're still growing, and where 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: you're ready to choose differently. All right, te You know 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: how we do When you heard that quote. As you're 45 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: listening to that quote, I know it was coming up 46 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: for me. What was coming up for you? 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Girl? I love this quote so much and I think 48 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: It's a great grounding quote for our conversation and to 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: be honest, when you are reading it, I'm like, I 50 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: would say every person you interact with, that's my thoughts. 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't even have to be on your date, 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: it could be anyone. And I love that this quote 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: is not centering the learnings that we get I interact 54 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: with others around judgment, because I think it's easy sometimes 55 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: when you get triggered or somebody do some shit and 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm about to I'm ready to fight, or 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: I thought some type of way we judge ourselves. But 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: I like that we're kind of The quote to me 59 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: is reminding us to take it as information and understanding. Go, okay, 60 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm just looking in the mirror to see where I'm 61 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: at and what I might want to do differently. You 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: know what comes up for you when you hear it. 63 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: So for me too, a couple of things came up, right, 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: like what you said about the being needing to be 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: gentle with ourselves around it's data, right, and that and 66 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: let's move remove some of the emotion from it and 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: look at the information that it's revealing. And then as 68 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: I had that thought, then I started going through the 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: mental rollodex of my exes of like, oh what okay, 70 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: so yeah, no, what did each of those relationships reveal 71 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: for me? Right? 72 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Oh okay, this is going to be a juice one. 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm excited. So lady, today's conversation it's really for the 74 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: woman who's dating with intention, right, you may be able 75 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: to get value out of it even if you're not. 76 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: But the reason we want to say this is because 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: if you're in a season of having fun and you're 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: just out there doing anything you outside, you're exploring, this 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: may not necessarily be the information that you're looking for 80 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: right now because you're not taking anything seriously right, So 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: it may not fully resonate, but it still may be 82 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: valuable to you. So just take a listen and see 83 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: if it connects with you. Now, if you're in a 84 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: season where you're dating to learn to grow or with 85 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: the possibility of partnership in mind, and this conversation is 86 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: definitely for you, because dating is more than just getting 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: to know someone. Dating, as we say, is like it's 88 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: a mirror, right. It reveals your boundaries, your self worth, 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: your patterns, youre healing what may need to be healed 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: more right, It shows you what you're working through and 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: also you know what you're still working on. 92 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and I think as we talk about 93 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: these mirrors, right, like dating being a mirror, I think 94 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: again it's important to acknowledge the emotions that may come up, 95 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: but initially focus on the data. Focus on the information, 96 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: because then that'll help you determine your next steps. And 97 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: when you focus on the data, part of those next 98 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: steps is questions that you can ask about yourself, but 99 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: also questions that you may want to ask this potential 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: partner that will reveal things about their character as well. 101 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: And those are going to be coming up. So we 102 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: got some questions for you and some reflection and points 103 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: for yourself as well. So stay tuned until the end. 104 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna get good. 105 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: Yes, And so we keep mentioning dating acting as a mirror. 106 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit real quick about like 107 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: mirror theory. So we've already stated it, but just so 108 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: that we're clear. Mirror theory is this suggestion that our 109 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: romantic partners reflect our internal state. So it shows us 110 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: what we've healed, where growth is still needed, and perhaps 111 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: areas where we need to set better boundaries. Right, sometimes 112 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: these mirrors reveal not sometimes all the time, these mirrors 113 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: reveal are conscious and some of our unconscious beliefs that 114 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: we weren't yet aware of. Right, it also highlights our triggers, 115 00:06:53,920 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: our patterns, and some unacknowledged needs. So again, that mirror 116 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: is providing you with information. So just like when you 117 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: are getting dressed, right, you're getting ready for work in 118 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: the morning, and you've put on the outfit and you're 119 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: trying to decide is this the outfit that I want 120 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: to wear? And you take a look in the mirror, 121 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: and in the mirror you are getting information, how's your hair, 122 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: how's your makeup, how's the outfit? 123 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: In general? 124 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: Right, your looking at yourself and getting data, and based 125 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: on the data that's being reflected to you, you decide 126 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: what you want to do next. You might need to 127 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: make an adjustment to your hair. You might need to 128 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: change that shirt because it's not flowing with that skirt. 129 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: And so dating is similar. We get the information reflected 130 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: back to us and we decide what to do with it. 131 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Oh girl, as you were saying that, I was thinking 132 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: about all these different scenarios, but one of the other 133 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: things I wanted to emphasize is that sometimes when we 134 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: have this conversation, when people have the conversation about dating 135 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: being a mirror, they think about like negative situations. But 136 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking about one of the most positive, healthiest 137 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: relationships I had ever been in, and you know, in 138 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: that situation, I also had triggers come up, Like even 139 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: though it was a great, healthy relationship, it was like 140 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: I was still seeing certain things that brought me back 141 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: to a previous time where someone else may have done 142 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: something and it was showing me something. And so the 143 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: thing is we all have areas for improvement, Like even 144 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: even if you're with someone and you're noticing all these 145 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: red flags, like, we always have stuff to work on 146 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: as well. So it's not always about pointing the finger 147 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: at the other person. It's about again being reflective and 148 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: looking in that mirror and getting that data and then 149 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: deciding what we're going to do. So, speaking of should 150 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: we dive into these questions, let's do it. Okay, I'm 151 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: excited about this questions. So what we're going to do 152 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: now is just share some questions that you can ask 153 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: someone that you're considering dating or while you're on the date, 154 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: on the phone, whatever it is. Ask this person these 155 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: questions just to understand more about their character, because I 156 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: think sometimes people they be frighting right, Like they say 157 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: one thing like that's another thing I learned in dating, 158 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: and this was like a new thing for me because 159 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't show up this way. People may say one 160 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: thing and do another. So it's like ask the question, 161 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: get the information, but also watch the actions. That was 162 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: like a very big realization to me. And someone's saying, Oh, 163 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: you're important to me, you mean so much to me. 164 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: But the actions ain't action, and you don't see it 165 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: in action. You can't write a list down of what 166 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: and how what they said is reflected in a way 167 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: that you can write down. Then that means it doesn't 168 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: exist and they're blown smoke up your ass. Okay, right now, 169 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: I will add that like I oftentimes yes, it is 170 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: that they are. They are blowing smoke up your ass. However, 171 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: going back to those unconscious beliefs and those unconscious things 172 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 1: that we may be doing. 173 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: It could be that that person believes that they are 174 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: a particular way right. However, when it's put into practice 175 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: they are real They then are learning that they are 176 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: not that particular way right. So going back to your 177 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 2: example of that person saying communicating to you you are 178 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 2: important to me. That's the words that they used, you 179 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: are important to me. It very well may mean that 180 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: they very well may be well intentioned and truthfuls from 181 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: their perspective of you being important to them. But how 182 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: they show so the actions that you pointed out right, 183 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: how they show that they're important to you may differ 184 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: from what you believe is showing importance and what they 185 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: thought was showing importance. Right, Yes, So for you, showing 186 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: that you are important may look like answering the phone 187 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: every time you call, every time they call you, right, 188 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: being willing to move things around in your schedule to 189 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: accommodate them. Low KEI, that sounds like people pleasing. That's 190 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: something that we need to address. But for them, showing 191 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: that you're important means that they consult you before making 192 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: a decision about the plans for the date, right that, 193 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: or before they make plans for their weekend, that they 194 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: make sure that you're the last person they talk to 195 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: before they go to sleep at night, no matter how 196 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: busy their day has been. Right. And so what we're 197 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 2: seeing is the information is that you two aren't aligned 198 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: on what demonstrates importance. 199 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: I love that so much down and I think in 200 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: those situations it's so key to have a conversation to 201 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: align on that and be able to just make it transparent, 202 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: because there are situations where someone can be being malicious 203 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: and they can be saying one thing and trying to 204 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: manipulate you because I'm thinking of a particular pay Listen, 205 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a particular guy. When you share that, 206 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm like this mother was saying, Oh, we're going to 207 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: do this, do that, and wouldn't follow through. But then 208 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: there was another guy who thought he was showing up 209 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: in a certain way. But I had to communicate is 210 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: that we have mismatched ideas on what that looks like 211 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: in action. So I appreciate you making that distinction. That 212 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: is sel Trope. Okay, let's get into these questions. Okay, 213 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: So the first question here is what did your last 214 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: relationship teach you about yourself? I love this question because 215 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: what it does. Listen, it reveals self awareness and accountability. Now, 216 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, if you ask, I mean it could 217 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: be your last relationship or what has any past relationship 218 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: talked about yourself? I think the learning here is seeing 219 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: again how reflective the person is if they're self aware, 220 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: or if they're going to put the blame on everyone else, 221 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And people like I was 222 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: telling Don before we started recording, there was a guy 223 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: that I was considering. You know, I went on a 224 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: date and we were talking and one of the questions 225 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: I asked him I was about humility, and it was 226 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: just in general, like he had said something about, you know, 227 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: he's this alpha male and beating on his chest, he 228 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: like had that type of vibe, and he said something 229 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: about how he struggled with humility, and I was like, oh, well, 230 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: what did you do to like work on that? And 231 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, yeah, I don't really work on it. 232 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm just like I'm the smartest person in the 233 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: room and when I walk into these rooms and stuff 234 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: like that. And I was just like, oh okay. And 235 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: in my mind, I was like, never again, because that 236 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: type of energy, that character is going to bleed over 237 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: into aspects of the relationship and I don't want it. 238 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't want none of that smoke. I don't want 239 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: none of it, you know. 240 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 3: None of it exactly. 241 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: And so and what I like about this particular question 242 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: also is that it allows people to be reflective, and 243 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: it allows you to see how they characterize themselves in retrospect, 244 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: in hindsight, and how they talk about their exes. That 245 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: there are situations and when in which an X may 246 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: be completely. 247 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: Out of pocket. 248 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, even in those extreme cases where the ex is 249 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: completely out of pocket, there are still things in which 250 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: you will learn about yourself from that interaction. And if 251 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: your partner cannot acknowledge what they learned about themselves from 252 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: that interaction, there's some emotional maturity that needs to happen 253 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: or some self reflection that needs to take place, they 254 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: might not be ready for what's required in a healthy. 255 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: Long term dynamic. 256 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: All right. 257 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: So then that takes us to the second question, to 258 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: ask a potential partner what does a healthy relationship look 259 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: like to you? So hopefully their response will reveal to 260 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: you a certain level of emotional maturity and also at 261 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: minimum their expectations for engaging with you. 262 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: I love it, and I feel like you could also 263 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: add a little question about ginger roles in there too. 264 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: I think that's always very telling, especially with certain men. 265 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you ask that question, they say it's a 266 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: wild To my opinion, it's a wild as shit, and 267 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, no that. 268 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: I have heard some answers and it's a no for me. 269 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: Dog. So that takes us to number three you, which 270 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: is what are you currently working on within yourself? This 271 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: kind of goes back to that example. I just share it, right, like, 272 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: if you have no areas when improving, be like, oh, yeah, 273 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: I've worked on everything, I've done everything. Bruh. Because this 274 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: question right here it reveals growth mindset versus stagnation and 275 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: also arrogance. Right, And based on how someone answers the question, 276 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: it can just let you know I do I want 277 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: this energy in my life. I think the biggest thing 278 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: here also is how someone responds, how they show up characterized. 279 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: They often say how you do one thing is how 280 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: you do everything right. So if someone is showing up 281 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: in this way in the relationship, probably going to show 282 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: up this way in other aspects of life, right, that 283 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: will impact you as their potential partner. 284 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I like that, And I think the piece that 285 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: I would add to that is that this particular question 286 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: for some people may be a pretty vulnerable question to ask, 287 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: and so that's also information, right. It may be that 288 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: they are not yet comfortable. So asking this on the 289 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: first date, they might not feel comfortable enough with you 290 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: to be that to take themselves to that level of vulnerability. 291 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: And so I would say in if that comes, if 292 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: that question comes up on the first date, that it's 293 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: okay to say, you know, I have things that I'm 294 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: working on. I don't feel comfortable talking about them right now, 295 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: but hopefully in the future we'll be able to dive 296 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: into this conversation. 297 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: Come, mom, eldres come on boundaries and that's healthy, right, 298 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: Like you're setting back and just met this person, like 299 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: you know what, it's a little personal and I get 300 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: to know you more, I'll definitely you know, die more 301 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: into that. 302 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, and so then our next question, how do 303 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 2: you typically handle conflict? So this reveals to us as 304 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: a person's level of emotion regulation. It can also reveal 305 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: their willingness to engage, like their overall thoughts and perceptions 306 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: on conflict, right, because and asking using the word conflict. 307 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: You know, I'm big on language and using the word 308 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 2: conflicts can often invite thoughts, negative thoughts, and negative feelings. 309 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: And so. 310 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: Again, even if it does, it's still that's still information, right, 311 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: that's still let you know how where they are in 312 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: terms of their emotions, and so whether they answer the 313 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: question in the way that you were hoping they would 314 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: or not, it's all information. 315 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, And that takes this on to 316 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: number five, which is what are your non negotiables and relationships? 317 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: And this question is always it's a fun one because 318 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: again it can reveal those some of those outdated ideas 319 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: about ginger roles, but it also reveals clarity and values, 320 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: and it can align. It can allow you to see 321 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: if you align with that person right, maybe you have 322 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: the same non negotiables, and you can also quickly identify 323 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: if you're a good fit, like are we just going 324 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: to have fun together or could this possibly be something 325 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: more long term once we get to know each other more. 326 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 3: And what I will add about this. 327 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: Questions as a therapist who often works with clients on 328 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: identifying their non negotiables and relationships, oftentimes what people list 329 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: as non negotiables truly are negotiables in their relationship. From 330 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: my perspective, a non negotiable is that thing that you 331 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: absolutely are not dealing with. So there should not be 332 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: a long list of things that you absolutely are not 333 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: dealing with. If someone has a long list. That is 334 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: information that is letting you know that they have a 335 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: lot of things that they think they have boundaries around 336 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: that maybe they're holding harsh judgments around or perhaps they 337 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: have not really gotten clarity on what their real values are, 338 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: or they might not have had a lot of dating experience, 339 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: particularly for those of us of a certain age. 340 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: I eat anybody over the age of thirty five. 341 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: The majority of us have had some level of dating 342 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: or have friends and family that have been through some 343 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 2: relationship things. And what I can tell you from the 344 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 2: therapist's perspective is that there are a lot of things 345 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: that people go through in relationships and they stay in 346 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: the relationship and they work it out. Very few things 347 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: are non negotiables. 348 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: That's a good one. I was looking we did an 349 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: episode about non negotiables and boundaries. I couldn't find it, 350 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: but we did something about that before. But yeah, that's 351 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: a good point. And sometimes I feel like when you 352 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: meet the right person, you end up. It happens right. 353 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: You meet someone you're like, oh, I could never date 354 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: someone who does this or looks like this, or is 355 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: this age, And then you find you meet someone and 356 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, well, so Yeah, that's a good point. 357 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: They may even know what the non negotiables or they 358 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: may change. So that takes us to number six. Number 359 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: six is what brings you peace in your life? Right now? 360 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: I think this is a really great question to see 361 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: where their head is. And also it reveals emotional grounding. 362 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Right I'm just thinking like if I were to ask 363 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: some that question and they were like, yeah, nothing brings 364 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: me peace, I'm just like, it's just chaos and nonsense. 365 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel sorry, sorry to that man, sorry 366 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: to that person, right, But also you might be like sheit, 367 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be involved in no shit like this. 368 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: If you don't have no peace, I definitely don't want 369 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: to be in this because I ain't trying to have 370 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: you make me your peace. It can reveal a lot 371 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: right now, I'm being facetious, low key, but that question 372 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: can I reveal a lot about them? Hi key? Real, real, right? 373 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: It reveals a lot, and they do share some of 374 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: the things that do bring the peace. Maybe you can 375 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: connect on those things. But it's very revealing. 376 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: I think I agree that it is. And it also 377 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: lets you know like maybe there are things that bring 378 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: them peace that you don't align with And that's information too, right, 379 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: that's letting you know, okay, so perhaps this person the 380 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: things that bring them peace are things that aren't aligned 381 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: with what bring me piece, so we won't be compatible 382 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: and that that's no judgment on either of us. That 383 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: doesn't make either of us toxic or bad. It's information. 384 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: So then that takes us to number seven, what kind 385 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: of partner do you want to be? What I love 386 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: about this question is that it reveals intentionality, right Like, 387 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: it lets you know, okay, now, whether you're going to 388 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: be their partner or not, how they want to show 389 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: up as a partner is going to look like ABCD, 390 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: and it also lets you know it's information on okay, Well, 391 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: if they are doing ABC and D, that's signs that 392 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: they are really in this relationship wanting to truly be 393 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: a partner. If they've told me ABC and D are 394 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: the things that they how they want to show up 395 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: as partner, and they're not doing those things, that's an 396 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: opportunity to seek clarity because if they're saying they're not 397 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: willing to do those things with you, but they know 398 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: that those are what they want to do as a partner, 399 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: you ain't it boot, it's time to move on because 400 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: they don't want you as a partner. 401 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: Now, on that note, well, Mike, drop right there, Okay, listen, 402 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: it's the truth. On that note, we're going to move 403 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: on to these dating scenarios, and these just we're going 404 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: to talk through a couple of scenarios and how they 405 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: reveal character and compatibility. So let's just jump right into 406 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: number one. So number one is going to be collaborative 407 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: or activity based dates. So this is like the cooking classes, 408 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: the what is that sipping paint type vibe, right, hiking guys, 409 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: physical activities even like a rage room, just something where 410 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: you're doing things together. And I think these activities done, 411 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: they can really reveal patience, emotional regulation, ego versus playfulness. 412 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it scape room. Right, if you're in 413 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: escaping with someone and you see that they're not they're 414 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: like very impatient or they get very competitive with you 415 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: and they just have you see a whole different vibe. 416 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: You can see their ability to be a team mate 417 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: and value team work as well in that type of setting. 418 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: So I think these can be pretty telling. What do 419 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: you think about these? Yeah? 420 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: I think that that's key, right because if you're looking 421 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: for a long If you're intentionally dating and looking for 422 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: that long term partner, this person, based on how they're 423 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: behaving in this scenario, is not going to be the 424 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: person for you. Because healthy, loving relationships require team work, 425 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: and the key word is partnership right Like you all 426 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 2: are working together in these scenarios. 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And now let's get back to the conversation. 468 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: Now, let's flip it and talk about what this might 469 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: reveal about you in these scenarios. Right, in a setting 470 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: like an escape room, you have to be willing to 471 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: be a team player as well. Right, so, do you 472 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: have patience, do you know how to emotionally regulate? Are 473 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: you able to be playful or is it focused on 474 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 2: your ego? But also in some of these scenarios where 475 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: it's about a collaborative activity, how safe do you feel 476 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: not be being perfect? How safe do you feel potentially 477 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: being judged? How do you allow someone else to support you? 478 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: How comfortable are you being a little vulnerable. I can 479 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: think of an example for myself, like hiking is not 480 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: that's not my area in life right now, I have 481 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: a fear of falling. We've talked about this before where 482 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: it'll probably come up again because we haven't worked on it. 483 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: Yet, So. 484 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: In a scenario where I'm on a hike, whoever I'm with, 485 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: whether it's a potential partner or friends and family, I 486 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 2: have been in scenarios on hikes where my fear of 487 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: falling has come full force in that moment right where 488 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: we're going up a steep incline, or it's a very 489 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: narrow path that we're having to walk and there's a deep, 490 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: deep drop on the other side. 491 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: Right Lord, I know, child, I know. 492 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: And so for me being in those scenarios, I have 493 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: allowed myself to push through. I have said vocally, like 494 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: I've been vocal about like, all right, this is a 495 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: little scary, but I'm doing it, and I've done and 496 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 2: I've said that out loud to the people or person 497 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: that I'm with so that they're aware. Right, So I'm 498 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: allowing myself to be imperfect. I'm putting that vulnerability out 499 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: there of like, I have a fear of falling. 500 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: This is scary for me. 501 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: And I am also asking for help, which is something 502 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: that I have consistently worked on in life, is asking 503 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: other people for help. 504 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: Right, And so. 505 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: For me, that's an easy scenario that I thought of, 506 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: that's like, yeah, This is a space where I'm that 507 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: I am allowing myself. 508 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 3: I'm pushing myself. 509 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: To be imperfect, to have this vulnerability and to ask 510 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: for help things that I normally that are working progress. 511 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate that down and I think that's super important. 512 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: And also kudos to you for asking for help, because 513 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: you know how a strong independent black women be. We 514 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: won't be asking for help. So good as to you, girl, 515 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: And you made me think of something else. So this 516 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: was I think a very good example about what was 517 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: revealed about yourself and how you were showing up. I'm 518 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: thinking about a scenario where I was dating this guy 519 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: and we would play games. He would be competitive, which 520 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 1: is totally fine because I like to be competitive when 521 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: it's fun, especially when you're like flirty with it, right, 522 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: But he would also cheat on a lot of the games, 523 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: like all the time. And so one of the things 524 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: I want to remind us of is to also think 525 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: about patterns, right because let me tell you, if we 526 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: playing air, I'm gonna be talking shit. I'm honestly, if 527 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: me and my partner are plays any type of game, 528 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm a team player obviously, like me and I'm have 529 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: been teammates for a long time, right in this podcasting world. 530 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: But I like to talk shit with my partner for fun, 531 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: right in a fun, flirty way, not like we about 532 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: to fight, because some people you pull out Monopoly and 533 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: they flip the table over, they're about to they try 534 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: and fight outside, you know, so not like that of vibe. 535 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: But I think also pay attention to patterns because this 536 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: person who would always cheat on the games, they would 537 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: also cheat in the other areas of life, right, They 538 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: trying to cheat people out of things. Just a dishonest 539 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: person in general. So I think that says a lot 540 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: about them, And so I just wanted to make a 541 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: point to say, like, just watch out for the patterns 542 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: as well. It's okay to be competitive, and even if 543 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: your partner it's competitive, and like, hey babe, I get 544 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: serious when it comes to these games or they'd like 545 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: to talk a little shit. It's not necessarily a bad thing. 546 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: It's just being aware of like how it makes you 547 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: feel and the patterns that you notice. 548 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's yes important data and I can't 549 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: tress that enough to data, right, all right, So let's 550 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: move on to scenario number two. Oh girl, Oh yes, 551 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: I know plenty of relationship have ended over this scenario 552 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: spending an extended period of time together. So whether it's 553 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: a long weekend together like the staycation, or you all 554 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: are traveling together. Traveling with a partner reveals so much 555 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: because it's a compressed amount of time and you all 556 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: are together in that compressed amount of time. It's not 557 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: like it's not like you're necessarily separating. And so you 558 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: get to your If you're going through at least a 559 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: twenty four hour period with your partner, there are things 560 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: that they might be able to hide when when you're 561 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: seeing them on a date for like a couple of hours, yes, 562 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: or if you're doing a quick cute overnight but taking 563 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 2: a trip, there are things that they are not going 564 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: to be able to hide that you're not going to 565 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: be able to hide. 566 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: Right. 567 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: What it can reveal is emotional stability, each of your 568 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: ability to be flexible, some habits good or bad, and 569 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: true personality. 570 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: Girl, you got a story. I sensed it well. 571 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: All I was going to say is when it comes 572 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: to travel, they often say travel with your partner to 573 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: see if y'all really vibing like you say you vibing right, 574 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: especially traveling abroad oh my gosh. But one of the 575 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: things I was going to say Tom is this could 576 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 1: go for friendships as well. I think communication is definitely key, right. 577 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: We all know that. I think about even when we 578 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: have visits together, or either you'll come up to visit me, 579 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: I'll come down to visit you, usually for a weekend 580 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: or a few days. And one of the things I've 581 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: learned about myself whenever I have any visitor, whether it's 582 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: family or friends, is I still value my alone time 583 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: and while someone's visiting, I just I like being by 584 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: myself in general, but communicating that with people, like sometimes 585 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, we'll hang out and we'll have time when 586 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: we're doing something together, or we can just sit on 587 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: the couch and watch something and be quiet, which I value. 588 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: Like I think talking all the time sometimes could be 589 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: a little overwhelming, and so being able to have that space, 590 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: or we each go to our own rooms and do 591 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: our own thing and then we convene. I think having 592 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: that communication with someone is really important, but you have 593 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: to kind of know yourself in order to be able 594 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: to do that. Right. The other thing we travel too 595 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: is like challenges. Years ago, I had traveled abroad with 596 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: a partner, and I actually did. I think it was 597 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: like Barcelona and I got the wrong ticket to another city, 598 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: and so we had to figure out in this new country, 599 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: or we didn't speak the language how to get it 600 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: rend like, how to figure it out, and so we 601 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: ended up having to separate for a minute to like 602 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: he went his way off. We're just having a flashback, 603 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: and we had to get ourselves together because very frustrating 604 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: that we missed we missed the train. And so it 605 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: can really reveal a lot about a partner. That's all. 606 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: It really can. 607 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: And I think what it does is a question of 608 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: an important question to ask yourself in those moments, is 609 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: am I feeling peace or anxiety in their presence? And 610 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: I want to be clear that the key phrase here 611 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: is in their presence, not necessarily about the scenario that 612 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: you are navigating. Because the scenario you gave, like I would, 613 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: I would be anxious, like the hell, we done missed off, 614 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 2: we got the wrong ticket, like I might, the normal 615 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 2: calm demeanor might go out the window, right is, And 616 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: but that lack of calmness is about the scenario itself, 617 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 2: not connected to my partner. If I'm feeling anxious about 618 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 2: having to navigate this scenario with this particular person. That's 619 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: something to pay attention to. Is it and asking and 620 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: just and really paying attention, no judgments on what's happening, 621 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 2: paying attention. Is this anxiety about you not being able 622 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 2: to trust people in general? Is this anxiety about how 623 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: they are engaging with you? Like where is the anxiety 624 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: coming from? And then that's the information that helps you 625 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: decide is this a good person for me? A good 626 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 2: match for me? Not whether or not they're a good person. 627 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: Is this a good match for me? 628 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: That is so good, so good? All right, y'all. Number three, 629 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: I have a story for you for this one down. 630 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: Number three is slowing down the relationship. So wait and see. Now, 631 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: this can be very revealing, okay when you slow things down, 632 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: because it it reveals their intentions right, emotional maturity, and 633 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: also whether they're consistent or driven by excitement. Now I 634 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: just want to I think we haven't girl to talk. Okay, 635 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: no judgment, it's a safe space, no judgment. So when 636 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: I was reflecting on most of my intimate relationships, what 637 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: I realized is that many of them started except because 638 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: I never I never really subscribed. I don't think I 639 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: really subscribed it, like, oh, you gotta wait three months 640 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: to have sex. I'm have sex, but I would have sex, Okay. 641 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it for them anyway, I'm doing it 642 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: for myself. Okay. So a lot of them started with 643 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: sex and then they morphed into something else. Right, So 644 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: it may have started as sex and then morph into 645 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: a relationship, like, oh, okay, here we are now. There 646 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: was one relationship in particular where I slowed it down 647 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: and was like extremely intentional. We actually started as friends, 648 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: and it was so much better experience wise because it 649 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: allowed me to go into a clearheaded one. I wasn't 650 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: thinking about the d okay, I was thinking about like compatibility. 651 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: And I also realized now when it was more casual, 652 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I can't have sex whenever I want. 653 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: But when it was like a relationship was on the table, 654 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: it made me be a lot to show up a 655 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 1: lot more differently. And I was thinking about this one 656 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: guy and I was like, in my whole face, just dating, 657 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, just doing what I wanted to do. There 658 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: was this guy. We were hanging out, girl, and I 659 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: was like, we were just at his place, we were 660 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: just chilling, and this man was like, can we just 661 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: go to your house now? He was just trying to 662 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: get some and I was just like, broh, wow. It 663 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 1: was so it was just so because I was moving 664 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,479 Speaker 1: very slow that particular night, and it was just maybe 665 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: laugh It was just very blunt, and I was like, damn, 666 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: like we can't just chill for a little bit. But 667 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: when you slow things down, it just it allows someone's 668 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: true self to come out, because someone they can't fake it, 669 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: but for so long, you know what I mean, until 670 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: they really go out. 671 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think the thing as you were 672 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: saying that, I was like, well, yeah, I mean, on 673 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: one hand, wow. 674 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 3: That was pretty okay. 675 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: But on the other hand, I'm not mad at him 676 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 2: asking for what he wants, right okay. And so I 677 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 2: think the thing that we want to pay attention to 678 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: is someone asking for what they want is not a 679 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: bad thing. 680 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 3: Just because you don't want. 681 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: To give it doesn't mean that the question is bad. Right. Good. 682 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: It's information. 683 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: I know you're probably a sick of hearing me say it, 684 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna keep saying it because it really is information. 685 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: It's revealing information about where you are versus where they are, 686 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: and compatibility, right, now you all are not on the 687 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: same page. He's wanting the goods, you're wanting friendship. That 688 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 2: we're not aligned right now. And again, no judgment on 689 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 2: either side. You all want to separate two different things 690 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 2: and it doesn't make either of you good or bad. 691 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 2: All right, So scenario number for. 692 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: Now. 693 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: This is one that women tend to struggle with dating 694 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: outside your usual type. What I love about this one 695 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: about dating outside your usual type is it forces you 696 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: to break your patterns. 697 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 3: And it reveals. It can reveal. 698 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 2: Whether your quote unquote type is actually good for you 699 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: or connected to a familiar trauma that maybe you haven't 700 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: fully worked through. It could also reveal whether you are 701 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: open to healthier dynamics because it could be, and I've 702 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: seen this happen for folks, it could be that dating 703 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 2: outside of your type, that the person that you open 704 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: yourself up to is actually the better match for you. 705 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: And at a minimum, it is information. It is allowing 706 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: you to maybe identify patterns that you haven't really paid 707 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: attention to before or and or it may also be 708 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 2: providing you with information about things that you didn't. 709 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 3: Realize you needed. 710 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: In a relationship and from a partner because you are 711 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 2: choosing someone who's different from your norm. 712 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: That part, Oh my goodness, I'm gonna say, is ten 713 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: out of ten highly recommend. All right, I bets Now 714 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on to scenario number five. Oh my gosh, 715 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: don You're you gonna be bushing? Okay, bringing it back 716 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: Scenario number five navigating discree our conflict. We talked a 717 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: little bit about this earlier, but conflict really reveals emotional 718 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: maturity faster than anything else. And we've done episodes on 719 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: this before. But conflict isn't always a bad thing, right, 720 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: we should be in conflict with I want to say everyone, 721 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: we should have different perspectives. It's all about what we 722 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: do with the conflict, right, and so it could be 723 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: either a disagreement or just a differing perspective literally, And 724 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: so I'm trying to think of a scenario dom about 725 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a scenario where you 726 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: were in conflict with someone that you were on a 727 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: date with or dating, please share, because I feel like 728 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: this can be so telling having a disagreement with someone 729 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: in a dating scenario. It can literally get like it 730 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: will let you know, it will give you the information, 731 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: but also let you know what action to take, like 732 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: right away. So they used to watch for listen. Do 733 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: they listen? Do they get defensive? Do they respect your perspective? 734 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: Like this is a huge scenario. Umber five is huge time. 735 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: My fuck, you have a story? Do you? 736 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 3: I do have a story. I have a story. 737 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 2: So you know, I was on a date with this 738 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 2: and I we were having a conversation and he used 739 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 2: some derogatory inflammatory just in what I believe to be 740 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: inappropriate words not gonna repeat them, and in that moment 741 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 2: the first time, I let it slide. So I was like, okay, 742 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna let it. Let it go this time. 743 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: The next time I spoke up and I said, you know, 744 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 2: I don't like it when I don't like those words. 745 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 2: I don't like the use of those words. How he 746 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 2: responded was information, He basically, oh go ahead. 747 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: I was okay, I thought you I didn't know if 748 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: you were going to tell them what he said. Way 749 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: you gotta tell them what he said? Okay, my bad, 750 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited. 751 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he I mean he is. 752 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 2: Basically his response to me was that he was going 753 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: to continue to use those words. 754 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: And I just asked something now because and it's not 755 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna reveal what he said, but the way you explained 756 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: it to me when this happened, it was it blew 757 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: my mind because what is correct me? If I'm wrong? 758 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: You said that? He was like, I'm not saying it 759 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 1: directed towards you. I'm just saying the word serious. I said, 760 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,959 Speaker 1: I mean, didn't he say something like that? 761 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 3: Yes, yes he did. 762 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 1: Yes. 763 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,760 Speaker 2: So because it wasn't directed towards me specifically, he felt 764 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 2: like it was okay for him to continue to use 765 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 2: the words in my presence, even though I asked him 766 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 2: not to so. In that scenario, what it revealed about 767 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: me was that I might let it slide once, but 768 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 2: I am not going to stay silent for the purpose 769 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 2: of keeping the peace, and that I am going to 770 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: communicate what is a boundary for me. What it revealed 771 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 2: about him was that there are certain ways in which 772 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 2: he will not respect my perspective or my boundary. And 773 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: for me, that's a deal breaker. If you cannot respect 774 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 2: my boundary around words that I find offensive, chances are 775 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 2: you were going to ignore and disrespect my boundaries and 776 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 2: my requests in other areas as well, And that's a 777 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 2: no for me. 778 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: Listen, and again, this is information we're not judging, and 779 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we I'm thinking about my younger self 780 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: right now. Sometimes I will say I had to go 781 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: through certain things to get to a place where I 782 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: got sick and tired of being sick and tired so 783 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: I could speak up because there was so much that 784 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: I tolerated before. But now, DON like this the way 785 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: he showed up. Even though someone may be listening and 786 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: they may think, oh, that's not that major, but can 787 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: you imagine all the areas of your relationship that's going 788 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: to But it's head because that is a part of 789 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 1: us character. That means that when you share something important 790 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: with him in other areas, he's probably going to show 791 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: up in the same way. Right. So listening to those 792 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: red flags and watching them and using that information to 793 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: alter your action, it can save us from so many 794 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: unaligned situations. 795 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 2: And here's how in this particular scenario, because I know 796 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 2: people are saying like, oh, that's not that big a deal. Yeah, 797 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: to go back to further prove your point, my best 798 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 2: friend knows that there are certain words that I don't 799 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 2: like or that I find offensive, right, And she may 800 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 2: use those words, but she is also very clear that 801 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 2: around me. She is not going to use those words 802 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 2: because she knows that I find them offensive, and so 803 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 2: my boundary is me asking her not to use those 804 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 2: words around me. Is not trying to police her language. 805 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 2: I'm not saying no use those words. I'm saying I 806 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 2: don't like those words. They make me uncomfortable. Those are 807 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 2: offensive to me. Please don't use them around me. My 808 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 2: best friend, who I have known for thirty plus years, 809 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 2: doesn't use those words around me. What she does when 810 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 2: I'm not around, that's her business. But around me, she 811 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 2: is very intentional about respecting my boundary. 812 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: You had that conversation with her. 813 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 2: We've had the conversation around using certain words. 814 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 3: Wow, I love and so for. 815 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 2: Me, and that happened years ago, right, and so for me, 816 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 2: that also showed me that. And so that in that 817 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 2: dynamic when I was on a date with that guy 818 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 2: and he was not that he was unwilling to do it. 819 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 2: Because I had an example of someone who in my life, 820 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 2: who loves and cares about me, who is willing to 821 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 2: respect my boundary. I knew that it was possible I love, 822 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 2: and so for him not to do it information for 823 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 2: me to say, then he is not the person that 824 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 2: needs to be in my life exactly. 825 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: Who goes to her too for being able to respect 826 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: that boundary. That's beautiful to see women being able to 827 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: have those conversations. 828 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: And so then that leads us to scenario number six, right, 829 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 2: having difficult or direct conversations, right, this is also that 830 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 2: previous example fits this as well. Right, So when having 831 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: a difficult or direct conversation, so those things could be 832 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 2: about like when you're asking for what is someone's intentions 833 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: in the relationship, or you're asking about being exclusive, or 834 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 2: you're discussing things like deal breakers. What it reveals is 835 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 2: their sense of clarity, their emotional maturity, and their willingness 836 00:48:54,719 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 2: to be honest. What it can reveal about you is 837 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 2: is in that moment where you are with your sense 838 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 2: of self worth, your courage, and your willingness to choose 839 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 2: yourself love it. 840 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to add there, Tom, I think 841 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: we can. I mean, we're gonna go to the after 842 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: show lady. We'll probably recap some stuff. But I think 843 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 1: just closing the conversation and just kind of reminding us 844 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: of what dating can reveal about us is really important, right, 845 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: And this is really where the transformation happens within ourselves, 846 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: and so just remembering that dating reveals whether you trust 847 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: yourself right, It can reveal whether you honor your boundaries. 848 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 1: It can reveal whether you choose your peace and whether 849 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: you abandon yourself for potential. And the thing about it is, 850 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: we're having this conversation, as you always know, with love 851 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: and no judgment. We have enough people in the world 852 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: judging us, not holding space for us, making things more difficult. 853 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: We are here to observe the information and then ideally 854 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: tapping into tools and resources to help us make a 855 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: decision from the information that we have. 856 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 2: That's about a reflection, yes, and as you are reflecting, 857 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 2: here are a few things for your journal. Dating taught 858 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 2: me that I I realized I needed to I learned 859 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 2: to stop. I learned that I deserved a lady. Those 860 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 2: journal prompts will be in the show notes, and so 861 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 2: feel free to purchase your Cultivating her Space journal off 862 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: the Cultivating her Space website and answer these journal cromps 863 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 2: as you think about what it means for you to 864 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 2: be intentionally dating. 865 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: And lady, we're going to hop into the after show 866 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: and we have some deeper reflection questions that will go 867 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: over there in addition to some behind the scenes storytime. 868 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: So you want some storytime, come on over. But just 869 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: remember the dating is not just about finding the right person. 870 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: It's about becoming someone who trusts themselves, honors the boundaries, 871 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: and chooses alignment over familiarity. Right dating reveals you to yourself, 872 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: and when you listen to what's showing you and what 873 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: it's showing you, you can move differently, you can choose differently, 874 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: and you can live differently and make better decisions that 875 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: serve you. So we wish you the best on your 876 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: dating journey. Lady. 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