Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Flowing out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, presented
Speaker 1: by Wingstoff, where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly and Shannon Gross, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. It is Wacky Wednesday, here live from
Speaker 1: s WBC Morris living Room, and thank you Wing Stop
Speaker 1: for bringing us another episode of Hanging with the Boys
Speaker 1: and fellas. Before we start the show, our good buddy
Speaker 1: dedicated listener. I think he's from Canada, because at least
Speaker 1: that's what it says in his Twitter profile as he
Speaker 1: has the Canadian flag rador, sent me a text, sent
Speaker 1: me a tweet, and his tweet let me see if
Speaker 1: I can read it verbat him. Um, let's see, let
Speaker 1: me see if I can. I was excited about your
Speaker 1: dude from Canada, but now we don't even want to
Speaker 1: hear it. Brother, here it is Shannon. Hang the poster. Brother,
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing you taking the poster out. You already said
Speaker 1: you have the equipment. I drop you in a second
Speaker 1: for the company that is paying you first off, Rador,
Speaker 1: thank you for your consideration. But I do not get
Speaker 1: paid one sent to do this podcast. Okay, except except
Speaker 1: free wings and free free donuts and free cookies. By
Speaker 1: the way, the cookies are coming tomorrow since there's no
Speaker 1: show on Friday. Disclaimer, we will not have a Friday change.
Speaker 1: No showing, no show outside. Got start emails, really gotta start.
Speaker 1: This one was from the balls. This one was from
Speaker 1: the ball. This one was the ball Missus Jones. Well,
Speaker 1: if it's on Missus Jones, I get down because I
Speaker 1: got a certain ring film. I got a certain it's like,
Speaker 1: showed me the mine turning with it from that boss
Speaker 1: from I got the horns down for him. Okay, this
Speaker 1: little horse can't even win a homecoming game in the
Speaker 1: virus yield come home with Texas. Okay, that he's made
Speaker 1: all and the and they're about to lose again, and
Speaker 1: they're about to lose again to day in basketball, I
Speaker 1: heard that from the counsel the game man at the
Speaker 1: end of the year. It's like when we were fin
Speaker 1: a boy out before we even be out, when you
Speaker 1: being the rankings next year. All right, So I don't
Speaker 1: I don't get paid by by the sponsor. But the
Speaker 1: sponsor helped keep us on the air that the organization
Speaker 1: gets paid, So thank you for that. Wow. Secondly, I
Speaker 1: thought I was perfect, but I I don't have jobs
Speaker 1: and you to stop. N just stop. I didn't say, man,
Speaker 1: you used to touch my heart, but that was kind
Speaker 1: of hard. Yes, you, Nate, You and Jesse ain't doing
Speaker 1: this show for free. Why don't you? Why don't you
Speaker 1: for I am I am No, You're not doing this
Speaker 1: show for free. Man, No you're not. I'm doing the
Speaker 1: goodness of my heart for the people. The fans love
Speaker 1: one not true you put on you put up a
Speaker 1: Twitter Paul. Yes, So there's here's the question, Raider. I am.
Speaker 1: I am thinking I am giving Wingstop more value by
Speaker 1: making that poster as pathetic as it looks with the
Speaker 1: duct tape on it. From the funt owned RV shows
Speaker 1: we did. It's an interactive part of the beginning of
Speaker 1: the intro of the show. Every show, I unroll it
Speaker 1: and it becomes part of the show. If I hang
Speaker 1: it back here on the wall like Kurt and Jesse
Speaker 1: have done so kindly yes in the past, and even
Speaker 1: Nate at one point, it just becomes a static every
Speaker 1: time I get some wings, y'all knows I come up
Speaker 1: and yeah I do, Baby, I need to be sponsored.
Speaker 1: So my question is I put a poll out. Is
Speaker 1: it better for it to be in an interactive part
Speaker 1: of the beginning of the show like it is, or
Speaker 1: should I hang this on the wall and it it'd
Speaker 1: be like I said I was gonna do probably two
Speaker 1: months ago, and I haven't gotten around to it. So
Speaker 1: there's a poll out there on hanging with the Boys
Speaker 1: Twitter I am. I will retweet it, you guys, let
Speaker 1: me know and whatever the results come back, I will
Speaker 1: either hang it or I will keep doing it like
Speaker 1: we have been doing for the past two or three months.
Speaker 1: Thank you Wingstop for the poster, Thank you for the food.
Speaker 1: And now the post is just the way you handle
Speaker 1: the post is the way you hand the cowboys in
Speaker 1: one day? Yeah, one day. The poster is there every day,
Speaker 1: and like the Cowboys, the poster shows a certain amount
Speaker 1: of times you do the show every day for the cowboys.
Speaker 1: Do you think cowboys all day? Yes? Because I work
Speaker 1: and they employed me and that's what I get paid
Speaker 1: to do. Oh come on, man, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get into the show. Go go vote, go, vote,
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever the voting says. Thank you Radar for
Speaker 1: calling me out. Okay, schedules all jacked up this week.
Speaker 1: I thought there was a game last night. There's a
Speaker 1: game today. Our game has been moved twice. Now it's
Speaker 1: now on what day? Is it even on? Is it
Speaker 1: on Tuesday? Is that what it is? First time in
Speaker 1: Cowboys history they've had a game on Tuesday. Question for
Speaker 1: you guys, as players, how bad does that jack you up?
Speaker 1: Because if there's one thing I know about players and
Speaker 1: coaches and organizations is they are major, major creatures of habit.
Speaker 1: Everything happens at the exact same time. Trips are the
Speaker 1: exact same, home games are the same. Your you know,
Speaker 1: your meetings are at the same time. And when it's
Speaker 1: altered a little bit, it messes with you. How bad
Speaker 1: does it mess with you as a player, these games,
Speaker 1: you know, league wide being shifted around like they are.
Speaker 1: I've never had to go through that, man, I've never
Speaker 1: had to go through that. So I know that. You know,
Speaker 1: you could set your clock by how coach Johnson and
Speaker 1: coach and coach y'all Landry done things, you know, during
Speaker 1: the offseason and the season. But I never had that
Speaker 1: that shake up like that. Even when you're injured as
Speaker 1: a player, they have a regiment for you, So jess
Speaker 1: and making going into that a little bit more because
Speaker 1: once I started, you know, it went for so many
Speaker 1: years where it went until they changed coach coaches, and
Speaker 1: then he started his regiment. So I don't know how
Speaker 1: they feel, man, I really don't. I agree with Nate Again,
Speaker 1: we're in an unprecedented year where things have been done
Speaker 1: like we've never seen them done before. And normally, unless
Speaker 1: there's a seriously catastrophic event, if your game is supposed
Speaker 1: to be played on set day, you play on that day.
Speaker 1: But I can speak to is you're right. You're right, Shannon.
Speaker 1: We are creatures of habit. We eat at the same place.
Speaker 1: You know, our our manicures and pedicures are on a
Speaker 1: certain day. You see the chiropractor on a certain day,
Speaker 1: Your massus is on a certain day, your massage on
Speaker 1: a certain day, with your massus, I mean whatever, whatever
Speaker 1: your routine is, your acupuncture, you're cupping, whatever those things
Speaker 1: are that you are, it is a dedicated routine and
Speaker 1: players of all sports hate to have their routine interrupted
Speaker 1: because it's it's it's a mental thing that just kind
Speaker 1: of gets you prepared for what you have to do
Speaker 1: on Sunday. And so when that's interrupted, not once, but twice,
Speaker 1: and now you know, you think you're playing here and
Speaker 1: you're playing there, and now you know normally and it
Speaker 1: may sound like something that's so minister, like, oh man,
Speaker 1: you don't need them to stop all the time, Yes,
Speaker 1: you do, mentally and physically I need that. And you know,
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, she may have locked
Speaker 1: me in for every Thursday at three o'clock and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now it goes off, and now
Speaker 1: we're playing on Tuesday, and now I'm like, hey, can
Speaker 1: I get it on the Monday. She's like, I'm all
Speaker 1: booked up on the Monday. You're like what, And now
Speaker 1: you have to go through either getting someone else or
Speaker 1: not getting it at all. And it sounds so minuscule,
Speaker 1: but it is one of those things that can just
Speaker 1: mess with your mind because you're like, man, I don't
Speaker 1: feel the same like I normally know how my body
Speaker 1: to feel on this day as I get, you know, tools,
Speaker 1: my preparation for Sunday, and when those things get thrown off,
Speaker 1: it can really mess with you mentally, man, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you players are very meticulous, superstitious, superstitious and
Speaker 1: just that routine. It's so important to guys when you
Speaker 1: hear about that, Hey, learn how to be a professional.
Speaker 1: It's not just the study habits. It's about building into
Speaker 1: your everyday life during the season, what you need to do,
Speaker 1: whatever it is you need to do to get yourself
Speaker 1: ready for a game day. And that's the part of
Speaker 1: being a professional. When I was interrupted, guys are affected
Speaker 1: by that, like mentally guys and physically guys are affected
Speaker 1: by that. Do you think that this you know, Cowboys
Speaker 1: were supposed to play tomorrow against the Ravens. Now that's Tuesday,
Speaker 1: coming off that bad lowsome Thanksgiving, the tragedy with Marcus Paul.
Speaker 1: Do you think this extra time off is a good
Speaker 1: thing or because they're now going to have to play
Speaker 1: Tuesday and turn around and then play Sunday. In the
Speaker 1: long runs, it's going to be a bad thing. Tough quick, quickly,
Speaker 1: let me let me put something in there. You don't
Speaker 1: want that. You don't want that because the disadvantage to
Speaker 1: this team. It's like Jess has always said, they don't
Speaker 1: know one another like the coulte human like the Ravens do.
Speaker 1: So you know, you don't get you know, if they
Speaker 1: would letting these guys in, it was so much more.
Speaker 1: If they would letting these guys into the facility and
Speaker 1: they could practice, this would be advantage, especially for the
Speaker 1: young guys that you got in place, this would be advantage.
Speaker 1: But since you don't, then guys are virtue is still
Speaker 1: trying to learn one another. This is a disadvantage for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Just let me let me hear what
Speaker 1: you have to say on that. No, I agree, Um,
Speaker 1: I think the only benefit of this is is there
Speaker 1: guys or guys who need a little bit more rest. Right,
Speaker 1: if there's guys battling something, some guys are like hoof,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad I got a little bit more
Speaker 1: extra time to rehab this or to get better there. Um,
Speaker 1: but again it's it's still it's still messing with your routine.
Speaker 1: And and this is such a this is such a
Speaker 1: unique season, man, and just in everything that we're doing
Speaker 1: and seeing. We got games on Tuesday nights and Wednesday nights,
Speaker 1: and I mean, guys are flying in. We've got nineteen
Speaker 1: guys that can't play or I mean this is this
Speaker 1: is just one of those weird twenty twenty I'm just
Speaker 1: I've had it up to here with everything twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, this is just another another brick
Speaker 1: into the wall of I keep running my head into
Speaker 1: with this twenty twenty season. I know what though, I
Speaker 1: want to say this right quick, like is something Lebron
Speaker 1: and a few other NBA players said and coaches and
Speaker 1: a few announcers, and I love when they said this.
Speaker 1: The mentally tough will survive. The mentally tough will survive
Speaker 1: because everybody's gonna get beat up, But the mentally tough
Speaker 1: will survive For the young players, is it? I mean,
Speaker 1: they don't know any better. This is their first year
Speaker 1: in the NFL with they maybe are just better than
Speaker 1: a than a veteran nah creatures of habit. It still
Speaker 1: goes back to that even in college, they had routines
Speaker 1: or how they handle things and what they did, and
Speaker 1: a lot of players they liked in a lot of
Speaker 1: cases being told what to do and where to be
Speaker 1: in what time to be there. Because they can set
Speaker 1: their clocking, no word about it, then they can fit
Speaker 1: everything else around that that's part of that professionalism Jesse's
Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, No, you're absolutely right, Nate. It's that
Speaker 1: as much as you see these big, mahemouth men, who's
Speaker 1: telling these guys we need structure, we strive off structure.
Speaker 1: We need to be This is why one of the
Speaker 1: if you're good at it, like the whole personal trainer thing,
Speaker 1: like everybody's doing. Every guy that pays all this money
Speaker 1: to these other personal trainers, they don't need them to
Speaker 1: instruct them. They don't need the instruction. I know everything
Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to be doing and what I need
Speaker 1: to be fixed. But I pay for you to tell me.
Speaker 1: I pay for you to put it and give it
Speaker 1: to me in an instructional form. That's all about that.
Speaker 1: What can what can a guy? Right, let's think about this,
Speaker 1: what can a girl? What can a guy or girl
Speaker 1: tell me about the position that I play professionally? I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that people aren't knowledgeable of it. I know
Speaker 1: everything that I need to do about that position. I
Speaker 1: know all the little idio secrecies that need to be
Speaker 1: done to have success at that position. What I pay
Speaker 1: for is someone else to make me have to go
Speaker 1: and do them. Every single day to get They hold
Speaker 1: you accountable and make you stand of your money, right,
Speaker 1: and that's what we need. Like, that's what we thrive
Speaker 1: off of. We thrive off of that structure. That's setting
Speaker 1: where someone is like, I just be here eight o'clock.
Speaker 1: It's because this has been it's almost been beaten to
Speaker 1: our heads and programmed to our heads since you know,
Speaker 1: middle school, high school, that hey practice at this time,
Speaker 1: do this, do this, do this, do this, do this.
Speaker 1: And while we always say I am my own man,
Speaker 1: I control my this isn't that we're always like, hey,
Speaker 1: so what we have to be again? Okay, tell me
Speaker 1: where you want me to go. Okay, tell me what
Speaker 1: you want to do. All right now, now get out
Speaker 1: the way. I'll go do it. Once you tell me
Speaker 1: what to do, get out of my way, then I'll
Speaker 1: go and do it. That's what we want to be
Speaker 1: assertive after we're told what to do. It's it's a
Speaker 1: funny and interesting dynamic of how the brain of an athlete.
Speaker 1: Uh it works. Yeah, that's the only time that and
Speaker 1: the only time that we're gonna fit really not be
Speaker 1: what told what to do is when it's come time
Speaker 1: to get our contracts done. Then we want to tell
Speaker 1: some does that work with with the with the trainers though,
Speaker 1: I mean because I would like, okay, like a hitter
Speaker 1: in baseball, if his hands start dropping a little bit
Speaker 1: instead of hitting line drives, he's hitting fly balls. It's
Speaker 1: just those little bit of techniques that they sometimes need
Speaker 1: a guy to come in and show them what to do.
Speaker 1: Do you get that plan receiver or cornerback lineman where well,
Speaker 1: okay in my case, in my case, it depends on
Speaker 1: the person. Really when we say, you know, because me,
Speaker 1: I didn't need a guy, uh that I needed a
Speaker 1: forceful guy. I didn't won't know. I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: need no no, no tag alone guy. And I'm yes man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't need no yes man because you're yes man.
Speaker 1: I could just stay right there with the cowboys and
Speaker 1: he ate double us to day. Because when I went
Speaker 1: to train I had a guy that was gonna be
Speaker 1: on my behind and saying, hey man, what is your goals?
Speaker 1: What do you want to be? How how do you
Speaker 1: want to handle the season. I needed a driver. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't need a plutter, I needed a drive.
Speaker 1: A dogs somebody are gonna go and get me, and
Speaker 1: so jess Man had a different case, and I knew
Speaker 1: other A lot of athletes go and get their buddies
Speaker 1: and their friends just want to give them a paycheck.
Speaker 1: I don't deal like that. You have to earn yours. Yeah, Kurt,
Speaker 1: it's it's the same thing and and and maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit different for lineman. But there's every position your
Speaker 1: your opposition are looking for keys, right, hey, and this
Speaker 1: stands is he what is he doing when it's a
Speaker 1: run block? What is he doing when it's a pass block?
Speaker 1: You know? How is he? How is he? How is
Speaker 1: his footstats when he's getting ready to pull? How is
Speaker 1: his footstats when he's getting ready to set? So all
Speaker 1: the look, hey, is he is he early hands when
Speaker 1: he go out and block? Or is he late hands?
Speaker 1: Because now I'm it's this chess match. So for us,
Speaker 1: you know, offensively, I'm always trying to eliminate the little
Speaker 1: things that are giving away what I want to do
Speaker 1: to the defender. So if I'm running a route and
Speaker 1: I begin to raise up, well, I's to indicate it
Speaker 1: to the defender that I'm getting ready to do something. Right,
Speaker 1: And now he's putting all this calculation into his head. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: Jesse is plus two split, right, and it's only a
Speaker 1: certain amount of route that he can run from a
Speaker 1: plus two split. So if I begin to raise up
Speaker 1: at about ten yards, he's knowing at ten yards he's
Speaker 1: either running an end route or some sort of curl
Speaker 1: route or something of that magnitude. So he's picking up
Speaker 1: on that, and after a while he begins to catch
Speaker 1: a bead. And if it's a er, let's just say
Speaker 1: it's a it's the Giants or or the football team
Speaker 1: from Washington or Philly or we play these guys twice
Speaker 1: a year. So now I've been through a game. And
Speaker 1: if I've given you indicators that you've able to pick
Speaker 1: up on the second time around, you're now able to
Speaker 1: do something different and to affect what I want to do.
Speaker 1: So you get what you're training in the offseason and
Speaker 1: you try to work on eliminating some of those things.
Speaker 1: If you're not good at the line of scrimmage, how
Speaker 1: can I get better move off the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 1: How can I get better through my route? So it's
Speaker 1: all those little things, the big stuff you get if
Speaker 1: you get to the National Football League, you're great. I
Speaker 1: don't care what level you want to. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: your Hall of Fame grade, you have your you know,
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl grade, you have your average grade, and then
Speaker 1: you have your you know, your your your jag just
Speaker 1: another guy great. But if you get to this level,
Speaker 1: you are a great player. It's all about those little
Speaker 1: things and the gift from guy that you know, Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill is four to speed. Who talked to anybody teach
Speaker 1: him that. I can't teach Tyreek Hill to be four two,
Speaker 1: So that's a guy gift. But what I can't teach
Speaker 1: Tyreek killers how to get in and out of breaks
Speaker 1: better while using that speed, how to set routes up.
Speaker 1: So I have to kind of out the two you
Speaker 1: kind of do as a trainer, right quick like, let
Speaker 1: me say this right quick like. It's Andrew Reid. Not
Speaker 1: one of the best coaches, is his is his scouting department?
Speaker 1: Not one of the bet This is one of the
Speaker 1: guys that he's like Coach Switzer used to be when
Speaker 1: he was at Oklahoma. They say, coach, he can't get
Speaker 1: in and out of breaks, but he runs a four
Speaker 1: two and there say bring him to me and I'll
Speaker 1: find a way to you. Bro. I'm just being honest,
Speaker 1: that's amazing that you you know, guys pick up telling
Speaker 1: you like you said, just rising up at a certain
Speaker 1: point or whatever. That's that's amazing. No, it's not. It's not. Well,
Speaker 1: just people don't think about the little interest is not
Speaker 1: all right whatever, you know, it's not. No, it's not.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why you hurt. He's trying
Speaker 1: to tell no, no, no, no, I'm bullying what he's saying.
Speaker 1: I'm bullying in what I'm bullying he's saying. Not Kurt.
Speaker 1: I'm like Jesse, and I just want to say that
Speaker 1: y'all have I just missed with kurts hey, But but
Speaker 1: you know what, No, No, on a serious note, I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to have fun. Man. Uh. That's why dad
Speaker 1: didn't play with us forever, and that's why Fitzpatrick playing
Speaker 1: for the Cognis forever, because he himself picked up on
Speaker 1: the blue things you're talking about. Kurt. I'm just playing
Speaker 1: and shying to stay out of me and Kurt's because
Speaker 1: I was just going somewhere with this. See you all
Speaker 1: all right, you know what, We're gonna take our first break.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do two things. In the next segment, One
Speaker 1: is Kurt. I heard you laugh at Jesse when he
Speaker 1: said is pedicures and manicures as a man that has
Speaker 1: got heart and a manicure. I want Jesse to defend himself.
Speaker 1: So Jesse, you get to rebuttal Kurt's little girl giggle
Speaker 1: that he had when you said, come on, man it
Speaker 1: cure and pedicure. And then two, I'm gonna ask Jesse
Speaker 1: a question that we have never asked him on this
Speaker 1: show that I really want to know the answer to.
Speaker 1: So tune in find out what that is. We come
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Speaker 1: question that has never been poved on this show, you
Speaker 1: should be nervous. I really want to know the answer
Speaker 1: to it. I really want to know the answer. We've
Speaker 1: we've we've hinted around the question, but we've never really
Speaker 1: addressed the question. Before we get to that. I want
Speaker 1: to give you a chance to defend yourself forgetting man
Speaker 1: a kind of headicures. Let me tell you why why.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why I chuckled. And it has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Jessie. This goes back. This is
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. I was with the Rangers and I
Speaker 1: had to go out on an autograph signing with a
Speaker 1: couple of players. And it was out a mall. It
Speaker 1: was miserable. It was a terrible mall. They didn't want
Speaker 1: to be there. I didn't want to be there. But
Speaker 1: we had about an hour or maybe not that long,
Speaker 1: thirty minutes to kill before the autograph session started. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, guys, go, you know you got thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: go do whatever. So they're wandering around the mall. Well,
Speaker 1: it gets time for the autograph session. People are waiting
Speaker 1: and they're not there. They disappeared. So I have to
Speaker 1: check around the mall to find these guys. And where
Speaker 1: do I find them. They're in a salon getting their
Speaker 1: nails done. And what was what made it funny was
Speaker 1: one of the guys was you could tell he regularly
Speaker 1: got manicures. It wasn't a big deal, but but the
Speaker 1: other guy, it was his first time and he saw
Speaker 1: me see him, and he looked at me, and I
Speaker 1: looked at him, and he was so embarrassed. He couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: And this is like a big slugger, you know, I
Speaker 1: just you never think about and I know you know
Speaker 1: now it's not that big a deal, but twenty years
Speaker 1: ago it's kind of a rare thing, it seemed like.
Speaker 1: So that's why I was chuckling when brought back a
Speaker 1: kind of a funny Okay, all right, you get a pass.
Speaker 1: You get a pass if there's nothing I have to
Speaker 1: defend on getting a manicure and a pedicure. If you
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you've gotten one, didn't you understand
Speaker 1: then you know what? Yes, sir, it's just like I'm
Speaker 1: in me from one right now. But if you can see, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I need to get another manicure, but you
Speaker 1: know right now, and usually Thursdays, what where do they
Speaker 1: use to call it a metrosexual? Like Thursdays is my
Speaker 1: grooming day. Right, I go to the barbershop, I get
Speaker 1: a shape up. On Thursday. I get a manipedicure on Thursday.
Speaker 1: You know, I shaved below my Tommy John's on Thursday. Like,
Speaker 1: I get, whoa, that's too much. But I do my
Speaker 1: fat feet too, Jesse, I do my fat feet too.
Speaker 1: I know. Listen and and here's how I originally started this.
Speaker 1: My grandmother about fifteen, about about fifteen, twenty years ago. Um,
Speaker 1: my grandmother, she she she was clipping her nails and
Speaker 1: she clips, come in, let me see your hand. And
Speaker 1: she clipped my nails. And she always told me, she said, Jesse,
Speaker 1: she said, a woman looks at three things when she
Speaker 1: sees a man, right, right, right, she said, three things
Speaker 1: when she sees a man his shoes, is his nails clean,
Speaker 1: and for his wallet? So and so. At that time,
Speaker 1: I was like for real. She was like yeah. And
Speaker 1: so she clipped my nails and then she put a
Speaker 1: clear coote of polish on my nails. And I was
Speaker 1: so afraid to leave. I thought. I thought it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, girly. I was so afraid to leave the
Speaker 1: house with this clear coote of nail polish on my nails.
Speaker 1: And I go to school the next day and all
Speaker 1: of the girls are like, oh, you get your nails done.
Speaker 1: Look how clean his nails is. And that's all I needed.
Speaker 1: That is all I need. And I was like, Grandma,
Speaker 1: do it again, Like can we do it again? Do
Speaker 1: it again? And then once I got to the point
Speaker 1: where you know, um, you know, getting the pedicures and
Speaker 1: the manicures professionally, Oh my god, if you haven't got
Speaker 1: one that, if you have not gotten one, please go
Speaker 1: get fellas. Not even for the women. I don't even
Speaker 1: do it for the women. Do it. It's good. Let
Speaker 1: I go in there, shout out to Yin. That's my
Speaker 1: that's my that's my my nail tech Yin. What's going on? Girl?
Speaker 1: I relax? I sit back, man, they know what I white.
Speaker 1: They know, they know. I don't have to say nothing,
Speaker 1: and it is a good hour of just quiet. I
Speaker 1: close my eyes, I relax, I put the phone down,
Speaker 1: and they go to work. I'm gonna give you some advice.
Speaker 1: If y'all have never gotten one. If they offer the
Speaker 1: hot stones, do that. If they offer the wax where
Speaker 1: they put your legs in the wax, do that. If
Speaker 1: you get from the paraffin wax or something like. Yes,
Speaker 1: if you get a manicure and they offer a forearm aside,
Speaker 1: that is one of the best feelings you will ever
Speaker 1: have in life. And if you go to a barber
Speaker 1: or a stylist that offers hot towel treatments or facials,
Speaker 1: do yourself a favor. You're gonna feel really weird if
Speaker 1: you do any of this stuff for the first time.
Speaker 1: If it makes you feel better to go with your
Speaker 1: wife or your girlfriend or your homeboy, do it. But
Speaker 1: do yourself a favor. If you've never gotten any of
Speaker 1: those three things, go some time and do it. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Kurt, Kurt, you need to go. I've got
Speaker 1: in the town. I've done. My girl name is Tina Man,
Speaker 1: and I thought y'all didn't like the hot tie will affit? No,
Speaker 1: I just don't want next surgery. Okay, all right, you
Speaker 1: know what. You know what we're gonna. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put the question because we ran along in the
Speaker 1: first segment, I'm gonna put the question to Jesse Off
Speaker 1: for the second segment. I know that was a short segment,
Speaker 1: but I want to make sure we get out of
Speaker 1: here on top. I'm building this up way too much.
Speaker 1: Y'all are gonna be super disappointed because it's not Don't
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Speaker 1: I was. I was like, I read this yesterday. Did
Speaker 1: I read the right one? I had to go back
Speaker 1: and look and see, but yes, it was two days
Speaker 1: in a row that I was supposed to read that. Okay.
Speaker 1: I wish y'all could hear the conversation we had in
Speaker 1: the break, but you can't move on, Jesse. The thing,
Speaker 1: you know, the thing I love about you, Jesse is
Speaker 1: you're cocky, you're confident, you're full of yourself, but you're
Speaker 1: also a realist and you have humility and you and
Speaker 1: you will talk about real things and you will You're
Speaker 1: a real person, and that's why that's why I love you, Jesse.
Speaker 1: And we have hinted around at this a million times
Speaker 1: on this show, and we never really asked you why?
Speaker 1: And it popped into my head yesterday. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Jesse on the show show what part
Speaker 1: of your you made it to the league. And like
Speaker 1: you said earlier in the show, if you make it
Speaker 1: to the league, and you make it on a roster,
Speaker 1: even a practice squad, you are a great player. And
Speaker 1: you refer to yourself as a jag just another guy,
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. We joke around with you about
Speaker 1: getting called from behind and all that stuff. But what
Speaker 1: part of your game what prevented you from being a
Speaker 1: starting receiver in the league? Was it? Was it one
Speaker 1: part of your game? Was it a combination of a
Speaker 1: lot of things? Why? Why were you because you played? Obviously,
Speaker 1: you played in games, and you were around and you
Speaker 1: were on teams. But what prevented you from breaking through
Speaker 1: and becoming a starting player on the roster? I would
Speaker 1: say two things. One, we all know. We we talked
Speaker 1: about it. We laugh about it. I got run down.
Speaker 1: I wasn't the fastest guy in the world. Okay, that
Speaker 1: I just speed, you know, I just I wasn't the
Speaker 1: fastest player. I was a really good route run I
Speaker 1: had really good hands. I caught everything. But I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't fast. I just wasn't fast. And the second
Speaker 1: thing is it's fit. And what I mean by fit
Speaker 1: is is that the right fit can make you a star.
Speaker 1: The right coaches can make you a star if you
Speaker 1: get into the right system. And not everybody is able
Speaker 1: to do so. But if you get into the right system,
Speaker 1: you could play for ten, fifteen, twenty years. And I
Speaker 1: mean legitimately, if you get into the right system. I
Speaker 1: was never I was never a part of this. I
Speaker 1: blame on myself my rookie season. I chased money instead
Speaker 1: of fit. I was an undrafted free agent. I was
Speaker 1: a preferred free agent. Right So, as soon as the
Speaker 1: draft ends, my phone is blowing up with all these
Speaker 1: teams calling. And this is the part of the draft
Speaker 1: where team they're trying to get players and they're giving
Speaker 1: them signing bonuses and stuff like that. We all see
Speaker 1: it happened like, oh, this guy went to that team
Speaker 1: because they gave them fifty dollars a hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: at the time the draft was over. One of the
Speaker 1: three teams that were like really hot on my trail
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, the Ravens and Saint Louis Rams at
Speaker 1: the time, and the right fit for me would have
Speaker 1: been to go to the Baltimore Ravens when you look
Speaker 1: at what they did and what my skill set was,
Speaker 1: or the Rams. I chose the Bengals, again not understanding
Speaker 1: the business at the time. They had Chad Ochocinko, TJ.
Speaker 1: Hushman Zada, and rest in peace, Chris Henry. So your
Speaker 1: top three spots are solidified. Two out of those three
Speaker 1: spots they paid millions too, and Chris was eventually going
Speaker 1: to get his payday before he passed, but they offered
Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars more than the other two teams. So me,
Speaker 1: being young, dumb and inexperienced, I did what most people
Speaker 1: do who don't have any money. They go chasing where
Speaker 1: the money was at. Had I gone to Baltimore or
Speaker 1: had I gone to Saint Louis, the Skies could have
Speaker 1: been the limit because now I'm competing against Chad Johnson,
Speaker 1: who at that time. You gotta remember there was a
Speaker 1: point in time with Chad Johnson was literally the best
Speaker 1: receiver in the league about a two year maybe two
Speaker 1: years three year span where he was the man t
Speaker 1: j Hushman Zada was one of the best route runners
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And Chris Henry was the evolution of
Speaker 1: the jump ball receiver. He was fast, he was six
Speaker 1: foot four six foot five, so it was like they
Speaker 1: had a combination of superstar route runner jump ball getter.
Speaker 1: And then that's when I started understanding the whole Special
Speaker 1: Team's core guys. They had a guy by the name
Speaker 1: of Tad Perry. We had a guy by the name
Speaker 1: of Sam Hurd. I mean there's guys on each team.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, this guy will be on that roster
Speaker 1: for ten years, right, Nay? You had guys like Bill Bits, right,
Speaker 1: guys like that who who found their who found their role,
Speaker 1: Like Bill Bates. Let's be honest, Like Bill Bates wasn't
Speaker 1: a prolific athlete. He found a fit and it worked
Speaker 1: for ten plus years. So I think part of it
Speaker 1: was I wasn't fast at all. Second, it was I
Speaker 1: just the fit wasn't right. Just I just I didn't
Speaker 1: have I didn't have Like when Jason Garrett cut me,
Speaker 1: he told me he wished he had fifty three guys
Speaker 1: like me, and I was like, well, you got one.
Speaker 1: Why would you get rid of that one. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you chose Kevin Obertree and Dwayne Harris over me. But
Speaker 1: that's just the way the cookie crumble. So I think
Speaker 1: fit and boy, if if I had like a if
Speaker 1: I had like a low four five four four, shoot, man,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be talking to y'all. I'll still be playing,
Speaker 1: you know. And the thing about and the thing about
Speaker 1: this evolution of receiver now, just think if you were
Speaker 1: playing now, Jesse, how valuable valuable you would be if
Speaker 1: you were playing now because a guy like you, it's
Speaker 1: one on every team now. And it's not just being
Speaker 1: a special teams guy, it's one of you on every
Speaker 1: team because they value that guy in the slot. You
Speaker 1: don't need to be fast, but can get those keep
Speaker 1: those chains moving. And uh wow. So I think about it,
Speaker 1: and I look at you, man, and uh, I see
Speaker 1: how well built you are, man, And well talk about
Speaker 1: being well built baby. Yeah, there we go. That's the
Speaker 1: arrogant Jesse. Y'all love a little bit of humility and
Speaker 1: a whole lot of self confidence. I love it, Nate,
Speaker 1: how much how much understanding? We love you too, man,
Speaker 1: because by the way you the way you do, it
Speaker 1: can't nobody do it. I don't know if that's that's
Speaker 1: a good thing, man, And I want to tell a
Speaker 1: turk eaga do he ever not had my ball on
Speaker 1: the show tonight? We gotta show off. By the way,
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's will be hosting Cowboys Cross Talk tonight. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a good show. It'll be Nate, Burry Church
Speaker 1: and Kyle. It'll be the what is that the pregame
Speaker 1: show that y'all do basically without Isaiah Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah he did Writing on the Wall, Shannon. It'll be
Speaker 1: a good show. No writing on the wall, brother, they
Speaker 1: need Shannon. Man. Yeah, I'm not able to go to
Speaker 1: the facility for five days because I I am in.
Speaker 1: I am in in quarantine protocol just to be safe.
Speaker 1: So because we I had a visitor for Thanksgiving and
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm I'm out this week. So Kyle's gonna
Speaker 1: do such a good job tonight though they're gonna kick
Speaker 1: me off the show because that dude. That dude is
Speaker 1: going places. Man, I love that guy. He's a hell
Speaker 1: of a host. Man's doing it, Kyle, he hasn't you know,
Speaker 1: ka's a national commercial, like an national Uh. I won't
Speaker 1: say the sponsor's name, because they don't pay us. They
Speaker 1: pay college. But you know he has a national commercial,
Speaker 1: does he really? Yeah, with the Burger chain. I said,
Speaker 1: I was listening. Yeah, I can't listen to working out.
Speaker 1: I was like, is that why I've heard his uh?
Speaker 1: And then I understand. Man, they love him in basketball,
Speaker 1: they love him ESPN, they love him in basketball. He
Speaker 1: loved it. Oh man, not that basketball. Hold on, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's for dogs. Don't do that. He's a play by
Speaker 1: played basketball guy. He's worked in UH league baseball. He's
Speaker 1: done a lot of stuff. He's high school football man.
Speaker 1: He is, he is talented. He is where from Shannon, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: He is not from Louisiana. He's from I believe he's
Speaker 1: from here. I believe he's from this. I got this
Speaker 1: crowd up. Nah. Nah, I thought he's a I thought
Speaker 1: from he was. Chris Beam just told us he's from Waco.
Speaker 1: He's a pretty good Call of Duty player too. He's
Speaker 1: he's I got one more question, all comes back up.
Speaker 1: I got one more question before we get off. And
Speaker 1: just like you wanted to ask Jesse a question and
Speaker 1: took up all our time. Actually, Jessica I have one
Speaker 1: question that I need for you to answer tomorrow. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what is your experience at the stadium. We have not
Speaker 1: heard that yet. We want to hear that tomorrow, Shannon
Speaker 1: and I not that for another segment to go by.
Speaker 1: We want to hear full, full segment of that tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Tune in you want to miss that. I'll do that
Speaker 1: in the last segment. That way we can get all
Speaker 1: the football talking the first two segments. That way, everybody
Speaker 1: can tune out any games tonight. Ravens still there is
Speaker 1: we should have done our show during the game, and
Speaker 1: we could have done commentary. Yeah, Kurt, that have been nice, man,
Speaker 1: don't hey, We already got people asking us if you
Speaker 1: even pay attention to the show when you're over there
Speaker 1: banging on your keyboard. We don't need you to distracted
Speaker 1: with football. Stand on top of things here, I had
Speaker 1: somebody asked me what you're doing during the show when
Speaker 1: you're banging on the keyboard and they can hear you.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you a chance to explain
Speaker 1: what's going on over there? Are you doing research for? Look? Yeah,
Speaker 1: here looking for the part he can slide by a lunch.
Speaker 1: They're doing that, that's for sure. I'm looking at trailer
Speaker 1: park near me. Normally, I apologize. I didn't realize people
Speaker 1: could hear me typling. Normally I'm just researching stats or
Speaker 1: reading stories or going through Twitter a lot. So I
Speaker 1: once in the while, I once a while, I do
Speaker 1: have an email pop up. Okay, thank you, respond Urt.
Speaker 1: So Kurt is reading stories during our show that I apologized,
Speaker 1: Chris Bean, get on, get on, get on, Kurt. You
Speaker 1: got on me for looking down at my phone during
Speaker 1: the show. Say show you get on Kurt the same
Speaker 1: way you got on me, Chris be Most of the time,
Speaker 1: it's it's Twitter and all that. So I poly, I
Speaker 1: didn't really know people can hear me, Hollow. It's okay.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow we get we get to watch. We get to
Speaker 1: watch our next opponent. Today at two thirty, we'll watch
Speaker 1: the Ravens Steelers game, and then we'll talk Cowboys. Cowboys
Speaker 1: will be watching that. What they're getting together in position
Speaker 1: groups and watching the game. Is that what I heard
Speaker 1: is that what I do. I haven't heard that. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that really makes a difference to be
Speaker 1: watching watching video anyway, but it would be a kind
Speaker 1: of a new way to do things. I guess okay,
Speaker 1: well cool, Well let's have a piece of party. Lets
Speaker 1: watch and then we can talk about it. Tun the
Speaker 1: wrong way. Don't do that. There's some games like they're
Speaker 1: having a eatsa party, so don't don't do that. It's
Speaker 1: the chef, that's what they're gone. They're gonna take your
Speaker 1: comment and run with it. We'll get cookies tomorrow thanks
Speaker 1: to TIFFs treats. We'll get those tomorrow. Jesse. You want
Speaker 1: me to send them to the school or to your house,
Speaker 1: to my office please, I'll be at the office tomorrow. Office.
Speaker 1: All right, Thank fellas, it's been real. Let's give Chris
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes back of his day. We will
Speaker 1: resume tomorrow with some Cowboys Ravens talk and we will
Speaker 1: not have a show on Friday, so tomorrow we'll get
Speaker 1: it in. Good seeing you, Jesse, Nate, Kurt, Chris Beam.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. We'll be back tomorrow on Hanging with
Speaker 1: the Boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys
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