WEBVTT - Obama Spied On Trump 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:09.720 You are entering the freedom hunt. Was it spying or 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:13.960 was it just clandestine surveillance for political ends that the 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.840 FBI engaged in, perhaps with some other government folks when 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.200 it came to the Trump campaign. We have the current 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.760 FBI director weighing in on that. Plus will they impeach 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.840 or not? Do the Democrats even know their own mind 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.680 on the issue. We've also got Gordon Chang joining us 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:33.080 to talk about China trade and Lyla Rose from Live 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.080 Action on a pro life movement that you might want 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.200 to hear about. Folks that are more coming up. Buck 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:45.920 Sexton Mission, decoding the news and disseminating information with actionable intelligence. 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:52.600 No mistake here, a great American again, this is the 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:58.000 Buck Sexton Show. Palma CIA analysts, I can speak to 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.520 three hours without a phone call. Try doing that sometime. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.800 A couple of things going on. First, there is, of 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:10.720 course the ongoing Inspector General's investigation that's being conducted by 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.480 the Independent Office of Inspector General, and our folks are 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:19.680 assisting them with their effort. And then, second, as you 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:25.760 alluded to, now that the Special Council investigation is completed 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.640 and having only recently returned to the Department. The Attorney 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:34.920 General is seeking to understand better the circumstances at the 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:40.160 Department and the FBI relating to how this investigation started, 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:44.160 and we're working to help him get that understanding. I 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.399 think that's part of his job and part of mine. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.800 Welcome to the Buck Saxton Show. That's a long answer 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.720 from FBI Director Ray about are we going to find 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:59.720 out if there were spying or not? Surveillance as I 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.000 know fond of saying, it's really just a fancy French 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:08.760 word for spying. Silveillance, surveillance, right to watch, usually in 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:14.200 clandestine fashion, to gather information on I could tell you 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.360 that when you fly a plane over enemy territory to 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.440 see all their stuff, you can call it a surveillance plane. 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.799 You could also call it a spy plane. Both are 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:31.200 both are correct. And this fight over words, which, as 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.120 I tell you, Democrats love to try and dictate the 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.839 words that we can use as a means of assisting 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.040 their side in the battle of ideas before we can 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:47.600 even mount our own defense. The insistence on not using 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:55.080 the term spying is very, very indicative of where their 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.000 minds are on all this stuff. They're worried, folks, they're worried. 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.720 They should be worried, because it gets very hard to 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.400 explain spying on a presidential campaign by the top figures 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:11.120 of the Obama administration national security apparatus. When your justification 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:17.040 for it is a rumor that George Papadopoulos passed on 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:23.960 to some foreigner over drinks and Carter Page. It really 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.280 is hard to believe, isn't. In fact, I don't believe it. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:27.840 When I say it's hard to believe, I mean I 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.000 think it is incredible. It is incredible, as in not 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:35.440 possible to be believed. I am incredulous about the story. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.000 I don't think that we haven't told the truth yet 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.960 about how this whole thing got going. The Russia collusion 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:48.720 conspiracy theory was not born of some innocent investigative work 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.680 from the FBI looking into George Papadopolis and Carter Page. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.160 Someone somewhere in a position of considerable power and an 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:02.600 Obama administration appointee almost certainly made the call, made a 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:07.880 decision to do this, and now the country has had 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.680 to suffer the consequences of it for over two years. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.920 I just I think it's instant that Christopher Ray, as 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.880 the FBI Director of course he's going to defend the 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:22.400 institution at some level. This is a terrible situation for 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.839 the FBI. This is a terrible situation for public confidence 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.080 in the ability of the premier federal law enforcement agency 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:36.520 in the country to avoid entangling itself in our politics. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.040 This looks really bad, folks. But you know, I would 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.320 just say that if they're going to try to play 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.680 these word games, then I wanted I want to make 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.560 sure the left degrees that the FBI back in the 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:53.320 sixties wasn't spying on Martin Luther King Jr. Oh No, no no, no, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.839 of course not. The FBI was just engaged in unconstitutional 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:04.640 surveillance based on on shaky counterintelligence premises, and we're willing 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:10.560 to deploy human assets to influence events for political outcomes. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.240 It wasn't spying, though, you see, it was just unconstitutional 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:21.920 counterintelligence surveillance also known as spying. In fact, co intel 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:27.560 pro which you can read about anywhere on the internet, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.840 was written about here in NPR when they're talking about 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.720 this history of the FBI spying on Martin Luther King Jr. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:40.800 As a history of domestic spying. So just because the 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.800 FBI does it doesn't mean it's not spying, especially when 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.520 it is in the realm of counterintelligence and not traditional 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:54.520 criminal law enforcement. All Right, the word is spying, and 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.159 they should have to now. So I'm spying. It's good. 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.479 I worked for a spy agency. Spying on Al Qaida 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.000 is a good thing. I take pride in spying on 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.159 Al Qaida. I mean, I don't do it anymore, but 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.599 that was something that I thought was a great patriotic 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:14.440 and even pro civilization, pro humanity duty. I would never 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.279 shy away from spying on Al Qaida. So if there 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.200 was a real threat, why, you know, if these FBI 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.440 guys and who knows who else that we're talking to, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.839 Papadopolis and Carter Page, if it was reasonable even for 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.360 them to think that there was a threat, why would 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.000 they shy away from the term spying so much? They 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.680 should be proud to have spied on the Trump administration 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.960 if that's what they did. But we know they aren't. 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:45.840 And isn't that instructive? Isn't that something of a red flag? 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:51.240 You could say? And then some This is where you 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:55.000 also have Clapper, James Clapper, who has been at the 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:58.479 heart of so much of this and has done what 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:03.960 I would argue, is it really multi generational damage, meaning 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.279 that for generations to come people will have questions about 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:11.960 the lack of political gamesmanship at the CIA, Director of 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:16.960 National Intelligence, the FBI, at Clapper has been a part 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:22.440 of dramatically damaging the reputations of these agencies. And I 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.520 know from my friends who there are Trump to range 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.440 people all over the federal government. You have to remember 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.000 that whenever you have the Washington Post or one of 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.760 these papers that says, well, you know, we've spoken to 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.320 sources inside the building and they tell you what their 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.600 snapshot is. They will never tell you that there are 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.280 patriotic conservative types who think that what's been done to 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.840 the president is horrible. And I know people at Langley 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.000 at FBI headquarters that fall into that category. But what 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.640 they will tell you is that there are people who 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.840 are still deeply outraged that Trump think that Trump. Remember 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.400 we used to hear this Trump was at war with 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.000 the intel community. They used to say that the president 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.680 and if it was, it war with his employees, because 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.880 that is what the members of the intelligence community are, 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.880 They are Trump's employees. Clapper clearly didn't think of them 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.400 that way. Though Clapper thought he had a higher purpose, 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.520 Wasn't that was that the James Comey book. Did I 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.240 just do that by accident? I'm so smooth, that was slick. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.960 Let's be honest. Play clip five here. Using undercover agents 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:30.840 is a standard and legitimate technique that is widely used 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:35.040 in investigations. So I'm sure. I mean, there are protocols 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:39.080 and standard standards for using an agent, and I'm sure 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:40.920 that's the case here. So you're thinking this was not 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:47.840 done lightly, Well, no, it's never done lightly. Uh well, yeah, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.200 I guess it miss meets definitely the Dictionary definition of 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:55.360 spy of surveillance or spying, a term I don't particularly like. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.480 It's not a term of art used by intelligence people. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:03.200 It has a negative connotation of a rogue operation, out 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.920 of control, not in compliance with the law, and that's 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.640 not the case at all. He doesn't know if that's 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.680 not the case at all, let's start with that, and 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.920 I do appreciate that he's at least willing to admit that. Yeah, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.840 from a definitional standpoint, it was spine. They were spying 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.880 on the Trump campaign, knowing that it was people tied 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:28.520 to the Trump campaign trying to use the surveillance fancy 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.640 French word for spying of people tied to Donald Trump 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:37.240 to get access to information about much higher up people. Remember, 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.040 it wasn't just Carter Page and Papadoppolas. They were very 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:45.520 interested in Maniford early on, very interested in General Flynn. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:51.320 And there's some interesting wording in the I was gonna 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.319 say that dossier in the report, the Mulla report about 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.920 the investigation into Flynn. How thorough was that? How long 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.720 back did that? How far back did that go? It 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.040 seemed like Flynn was on the radar of the authorities, 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:09.199 perhaps even before the completely pretextual and bad faith Logan 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:14.600 Act violation meeting came up. Sally Yates set General Flynn up. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.600 That is what she did. These are not good people. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.400 These are not people that were acting with the best 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:25.960 interests of their fellow national security professionals or the United 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:30.360 States when they did this. This was petty, It was spiteful. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.559 Sally Yates is a spiteful person, all right. That's why 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:39.240 she also refused to take orders from the President and 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.959 also refused to resign. Made him fire her because she 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:47.960 was hashtag resistance. These people are disgraced to the offices 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.800 they held. The Clapper and Yates and Combie a disgrace. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.720 But notice how with Clapper here he says meets the 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:01.439 Dictionary definition of spying, but he doesn't like the connotations 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.720 about how it's a rogue operation out of control. He also, 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.600 I don't know if he's talking to Monsieur Dona Lament 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:12.440 don Lemon, I prefer the French Don Lament. But when 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.480 he was talking to him there, we just take it 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.440 as a given or he takes it as a given 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.199 Clapper that this was all on the up and up, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.040 that there was nothing about this that should have raised 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.360 an eyebrow. Why would anyone think that is the case 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:32.040 given what we've seen so far. I mean, they briefed 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.600 the president. Just take this one example. James Comey, as 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.920 the FBI director, briefed the President of the United States 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:45.040 on this dossier and did not tell him, Nor did 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.720 anyone in the intelligence community think it was necessary for 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.640 anyone to know in the public that the dossier was 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:57.439 a compilation of foreign assembled paid for by the Hillary 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:05.040 campaign lies. Don't you think that would have affected the 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:10.680 perception of how much veracity anybody could possibly think was 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.800 in this. Don't you think that if President if someone 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.679 handed President Trump a piece of paper like this and said, Hey, 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.199 I'm the fbid ract. You should just know that the 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.840 Hillary campaign is spreading the stuff about you. You'd say, yeah, 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.400 it's a bunch of lies, it's a bunch of crazy nonsense. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.160 Why why, James Comey, are you showing this to me? Oh? 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.280 And that's right. CNN ends up reporting on it within hours. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.760 We're supposed to believe that's a coincidence, just like CNN 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:38.120 being the only journalistic outfit that happened to be in 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:42.640 place for the Roger Stone arrest, the circus arrest of 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:50.360 you know, geriatric sartorial icon Roger Stone with dozens of 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.280 guys heavily armed. I will tell you I spoke to 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.840 some DJ sources and I read them the riot Act 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:57.880 over that one, and there was a oh, well, it 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.439 was within the bounds of what we could as a 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.160 non non no, no, no, don't pull that. It was 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.880 within the bounds nonsense with me. Oh, I don't want 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.000 to hear that stuff. Guys. We all know what that was. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.000 We all know what Mauler's team was engaged in there. 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.440 Let's let's not let's not talk to Buck like he's 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.760 a dumb dumb okay, and they I had sometimes I 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.560 got a little test team with some of my my 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.680 sources in this town. I have to I did not 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.640 like that. Well it was it was within the discretion 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.559 of the mother team. No no, no, no, no no, no. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.880 That should have raised more than eyebrows. That should have 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.880 raised hackles. People should have been ticked off. They could 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.240 have called Roger Stone and said, oh, show up, turn 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.800 yourself in. Everyone knows he would have done it. He's 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.720 not gonna flee. He's not gonna flee and leave all 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:47.280 of his finely tailored suits behind. Nonsense. But CNN just 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.640 happened to be there. CNN that also happens to have 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.960 a number of former senior FBI you know, administrative assistance 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.080 to James Comi on the payroll, just happens to be there. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.840 No other no local journalism, no no other networks. Just 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.120 you know, I mean, I know they say they just 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.280 got lucky. It was just good journalism. After all the 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:08.160 other good journalism CNN's done on this issue. Oh man, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:13.120 they really, they really pushed the limits, don't they. This 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.480 was spine. I worked for a spy agency. What was 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.959 done to Trump campaign was spine. It was done by 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:25.800 senior members of the National security apparatus appointed by and 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:30.720 under the orders of, at least in general, the Obama 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:36.280 administration and President Obama. These were Obama employees, folks, That 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:40.360 is a fact. James Clapper comy. These are employees in 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.680 the executive branch of President Barack Obama who spied on 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:48.920 a presidential campaign based on a delusion, one that should 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.160 have been shut down before it even got started. And 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.000 instead they did everything they could we know this from 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.960 the page struck tex at the FBI, everything they could 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.120 to breathe more life into it, to leak to the press, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:06.120 to collude with the anti Trump mainstream media. That was 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.040 what they chose to do. Now they're desperately trying to 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.680 cover it up on the one hand and attack Trump 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.800 for obstruction on the other. I'm sorry, now, we've seen 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.480 enough of their games. We know what they're up to. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.240 It's not going to work, not on my watch, not 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:30.280 here in the freedom hunt. We'll be right back. Well, 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.080 that's not the term I would use. Look, there are 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.120 lots of people have different colloquial phrases. I believe that 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.680 the FBI is engaged in investigative activity and part of 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.800 investigative activity includes surveillance activity of different shapes and sizes, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.400 and to me, the key question is making sure that 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.440 it's done by the book. And at this time, do 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.120 you have any evidence that any illegal surveillance into the 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:59.280 campaigns or individuals associated with the campaigns by the FBI occurred. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.120 I don't think I personally have any evidence of that sort. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:09.840 Ah back to the spying debate here, that's FBI Director 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:15.520 Christopher Ray, who was showing us who he is today, 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.000 and it doesn't surprise me at all. He's an institutionalist. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.080 He's somebody who's been in government, been in these roles 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.080 for a very long time, comes from within the bureau, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.080 and is going to protect the bureau because this is, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:29.840 from the perspective of public trust, an existential crisis for 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:34.040 the FBI in the making. What happens when the American 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:39.200 people find out, as we will, that the FBI can 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.680 vary easily and perhaps even within their regulations and within 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.640 the law, quite easily and legally spy on a presidential campaign. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.160 Is that supposed to make us feel better? Should we 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.400 feel better about the FBI if, in fact, like a 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:59.600 bunch of imbeciles, they believed some Internet conspiracy theories that 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.680 were working around during the election, and thought that it 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:08.000 was a worthwhile usage of resources to send an agent 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.680 to go talk to or send someone acting on behalf 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.000 of the FBI to go talk to Papadopoulos, open up 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.480 a FIZA and get it renewed three times on Carter page. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.560 I think they should be careful what they wished for here. 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.240 It would be better for the reputation of the FBI, 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.159 and it would be better for public confidence in the 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.760 FBI if, in fact, the Inspector General report were to 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.199 find that there was a rogue actor that you know, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.639 Comey really was like you know, agent number one running 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.760 around doing all this stuff and lying and falsifying documents, 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:43.000 And that would because you can root that out. But 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.520 if the law currently is so lax, and if the 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.479 FBI has so little oversight that they can show up 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.040 to a FISA car and be like, yeah, we got 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.600 this like pile of crap that we haven't actually verified 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.600 at all. It's called we'll call it a dossier. And 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:58.800 you know, the American citizen, we want to pull all 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.159 of his communications for the next few months, and we 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.320 don't know that he's committed a crime or we have 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.719 no reason to believe he has committed any crime. Actually, 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.000 but this paper, this was handed to me by an 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.760 opposition researcher during a presidential campaign, so I figure we'll 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.360 just use this and we'll go from there. That's appalling. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.000 That's even worse. What this really means, what Christopher Way 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:22.439 is telling you, is yeah, maybe it was all by 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.240 the book. And in this case, the book means that 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.920 the Fourth Amendment doesn't count anymore. It means that people 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.520 who are unscrupulous can abuse their authority in the government 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.360 to open up spying, because that's what it was on 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:40.600 the political opposition, on conservatives, on Republicans, on Trump. That's 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.640 even worse than a rogue actor. For a few weeks now, 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.360 I've been reminding you that Mother's Day is fast approaching. Now, 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.840 it's just days away. 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Did you have a problem away, Comey handled 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:08.600 the Clintoney mill investigation. Yes, I said so at the time. Okay, so, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.440 given the fact that a lot of people coming should 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.480 be fired, did you find that to be a persuasive 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:20.280 act of obstructing justice. No. I think even the report 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.080 at the end of the day came to the conclusion, 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:29.800 if you read the analysis, that a reason that loomed 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:34.920 large there for his termination was his refusal to tell 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.120 the public what he was privately telling the president, which 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:42.919 was that the president was not under investigation. Why wouldn't 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.760 Comey tell the public that? Isn't there an important isn't 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:50.080 there a compelling interest in not having that cloud over 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.119 the commander in chief? You have to remember that for 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.600 the anti Trump forces in this country, in the media 0:20:56.720 --> 0:21:02.280 and government Democratic Party, they think anything that justifies taking 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:08.760 away the ability to operate freely when it comes to Trump, 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:13.680 anything is justified. They're fine with it. Whatever it is 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.560 they have to do so that Trump can't really be 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.800 the president. They think is a good thing. They think 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.480 that they have a right to make sure that that 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:25.480 is the case. And Comey was playing games. He's playing 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:29.080 games along the whole standing up and reading that statement 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.399 about Hillary and the emails, and that just reminds me 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:41.480 the gall the hootspa on some of these analysts and 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:47.119 pundits and news people who are now running around holding 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:51.920 up this letter written by hundreds of former federal prosecutors 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.639 who have all signed their names to this four hundred 0:21:54.640 --> 0:22:00.240 and fifty former federal prosecutors who have said that there 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:05.040 should have been obstruction charges would have been obstruction charges 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.919 if not for the fact that Trump is president United States. 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.200 I think it's fascinating that these people think that we're 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:18.320 supposed to care. I don't give a I don't give what. 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.720 I don't give a you know what about what a 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.159 bunch of lawyers who, by the way, no offense. The 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.600 lawyers listening tend to be Democrats, right American Bar Association 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:32.119 basically a wing of the DNC. A lot of lawyers 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.800 or Democrats. A lot of prosecutors in particular are Democrats, 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:39.600 especially in the bluer parts of the country. And I 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.760 don't much care what they think about this. I also 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:44.760 want to know what their response, if we're going to 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.600 go down this pathway, what their response would be to 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.679 the fact that Mueller himself did not take the position 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.000 that they are asserting. Are they saying that Muller was scared? 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.760 Was Mueller somehow unwilling to speak the truth on this issue? 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:04.280 Was Saint Muller the Great Anointed Destroyer? Of the Trump administration. 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:09.240 Oops didn't manage to pull it off. Did he? Did 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.800 Saint Muller get cold feet? He very well could have 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.800 written in that four hundred plus page report we found 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.000 enough evidence to bring charges, but we know the OLC 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:20.320 guidance from the Department of Justice states that you cannot 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.280 bring charges against the sitting president. So therefore we leave 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.280 this to the American people into Congress to handle as 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.520 they see fit. He didn't say that. He didn't say that. 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:35.040 I think in part because here's the most persuasive anti 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:39.280 obstruction charge argument that I know of. Trump didn't obstruct anything. 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.080 I would also like to know what these prosecutors who 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.680 signed this letter that all the media was all excited about. 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:50.959 It was posted Monday afternoon, including Bill Weld, who is 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.240 running against Trump. Oh, well, he must be really objective. 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.400 He's a former US attorney in the Reagan administration who's 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:02.560 running against Trump for the Republican Nation. Yeah, he's a 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:05.960 he's a guy that you can look to to be 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.480 totally honest and fair minded in this whole process. Uh, 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:12.800 you know, this is just a This is just a 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.919 pr and a propaganda exercise. These are people who obviously 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.040 don't like the president, and they think that because they've 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:23.080 worked in government in some capacity as prosecutors, that their 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:27.800 judgment is now beyond partisanship. And that's just that's just silly. 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:32.360 No reasonable person would think that that's what's going on here. 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:37.040 It's it's not It shouldn't be their expectation that in 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:41.119 a country of three hundred and twenty or so million people, 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.680 because a few hundred people that happen to have law 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:49.760 degrees and had worked in government prosecution, think that there 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.760 would have been obstruction charges here? That what does that? 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.479 What does that mean? So do we have the evidence 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.920 now to bring those charges because Mueller didn't? Is there 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:03.200 new evidence? No, there's not. This is there's a level 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.840 of this is kind of sad, and I know that 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:07.879 that's not the way you usually hear this discuss. But 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.040 there were all these stories towards the end of the 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:14.960 Muller Probe about how there were people who were worried 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.280 that they would older people were worried they would die 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.840 before seeing justice and the Mulla Probe could be released 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.879 and finally set things right in the land. You know, 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:26.040 this is almost like it's the end of a Shakespearean drama. 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.080 It's like the end of Hamlet, where the last act 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.600