1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive to with Ashlyn Sulis, John Oceans, 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: and Brian Sexty. Jacks Drive starts right now, Roma getting 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: there for James Robinson the running back play. Thanks for 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: ever looking downfield fires, deep downfield up. I was gonna 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: be thought, Barbara Jones during your course downs whoa whoa 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: running back James Robinson miked up against the Houston Texans. 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: You can check out that full episode on Jaguars dot Com. 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday morning, Ashlyn, 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Brian and John here with you as we get ready 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: for the next game for the Jaguars this Sunday against 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: the Colts on the road, and a lot to talk 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: about if we get ready for that game. But I 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: bring in Brian and John now, and it seems to 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: be that maybe the feeling of the loss has moved past, 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: and Monday was I don't want to say the sulking day, 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: but you have to address that terrible game on Sunday 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: and here's the day. Yeah, we attempt to move on 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: and take a step forward. I haven't seen anybody yet 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: this morning, so I'm not sure if they have, right, 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I will in the next hours 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: you're walking around the hallways. But I think that one's 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: gonna stick a little bit more. I think it's it's 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: one that's going to hang with him a bit. Yeah, 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: the team and the coaches, especially the veterans, will move 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: on because that's what the NFL is. I think, honestly, 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: I think it will linger for fans and observers. Uh. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: As I've written several times since that game, I believe 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: that now in order to get fans feeling like they 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: felt in September, you've got to win a couple well 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: you toltally, gotta make him believe again, and then he 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: got to win more than Sunday. But you gotta start sun. 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: I was filling up with gas the other day and 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: a guy, you know, he just he said, the thing is, 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: I was so ready to get on board with this. 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: I was so ready to believe that's what it is. 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: And that was what it wasn't that they well, it 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: was that they lost. It was how they lost. It 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: was that he was expecting a good game from a 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: team that he had seen play well the last couple 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: of weeks and they didn't. He was let down, and 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: that was the part that That's the part that stinks 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, is that we've been talking 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: about a team that's ready to take that next step, 44 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: maybe had taken that next step. It's tough to believe 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: this morning, to to believe that they're there now. There 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: is an element that that's what the NFL is. Sometimes 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: even good teams do what they did Sunday, but since 48 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: this team hasn't been good, Yeah there's the sixties. That's 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: hard their fans perspective, that's what was like. So the 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: fact that that they don't get that benefit of the 51 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: doubt for one bad game when you've had a hundred 52 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: and fifty bad games there after taste from the last 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: couple of years. So now you've got to prove it 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: double to a fan base that wants to believe. It's 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: almost that feeling of too good to be true. And truthfully, 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: that game against the Charges and everyone's flying back home happy. 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: There were fans that said, this is awesome, but is 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: this for real? And I think Sunday might have proved Okay, 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't for real and maybe they're not consistent yet, 60 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: and yeah, that stinks. It's almost like a breakup. It's 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: like you thought this was it and this isn't it now. No, 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: I'm really thinking about it late. La. Let's we'll talk 63 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: after the show. Okay, thanks for the advice. Let's all right, 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: let's get into big things. Big thing one is give 65 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: him time. The freak out is here for quarterback Trevor 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Lawrence and all the fans perspective saying he's not ready 67 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: and he's not the franchise quarterback. Well, he played lights 68 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: out week two and week three. Hasn't played good the 69 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, like most young quarterbacks. Coach Peterson said, 70 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: take a breath to get there. You're Jalen Hurts great example. 71 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: Last year. You know, he's got a new head coach, 72 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: he's got a new coordinator. You know. Um, yes, they 73 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: made the postseason and he probably went through some growing 74 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: pains last year. Now second season, the same head coach, 75 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: same coordinator, played caller, the whole thing. Add some more 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: pieces around it, have consistency, things thrive. You look at 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals young quarterback, things or things thrive, you know, 78 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: and you look at you look at the Chargers. You 79 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: can take a young quarterback. Put the pieces around. Here's 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: consistency things thrive. So it's a model, you know, for 81 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: for success in this league. Um, you know, and and 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: and it's just it's just where we are at the time. 83 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: But but I know that with time, you know, we'll 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: we'll be there, you know, with those teams. And I 85 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: interrupted Slynn's floyd a little bit here, but I ain 86 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: it's important to note that's not the first time he 87 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: said this. Uh, he knew this was coming. Uh, he 88 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: knows young quarterbacks, he knew Trevor Lawrence. That's probably the 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: third or fourth time publicly that he's hit that theme 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: with Trevor. He brought it back out this time. But 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: let's not you know, I fan saying, well, he's just 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: saying that this is the process that he knew was coming. 93 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: And so I believe that Doug Peterson knows where the 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: growth will be. Yeah. Still go back to the week 95 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: after the Commander's loss, and I started a question to 96 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: him on Friday, said, do we all have two great expectations? 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: He started nodding before even said for Trevor Lawrence a child, 98 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, he knew, he knew exactly where it was going. 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: So and he John, he and I've had that conversation. 100 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: He knew coming into this year that he was going 101 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: to have to tamp those down. This was a kid that, 102 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: even though he had incredible upward potential, she had so 103 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: far to go based on what happened last year. Uh 104 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: and just the normal growth curve for quarterbacks. And that 105 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: brings us into big thing too, which is wait, why 106 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to wait? I want this team to 107 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: win right now. We saw it weeks two and week three. 108 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: Why can't they keep it up? Well, we just talked 109 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: about that young quarterback and this young team, this young roster. 110 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: This is gonna be an up and down season. So 111 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: buckle up. Do I think we can you know, have 112 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: an opportunity this year to take advantage of some situations 113 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: and get better as a team. I do, and and 114 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: the team believes that, you know. But but there's a 115 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: process here, and a lot of times people don't want 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: to nobody wants to wait anymore. You know, there's there's 117 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: always you know, it's now, you know, and I get that. 118 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a it's a win now mental 119 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's it's our job to to 120 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: try to speed that up the best we can. Um, 121 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, through practice, through prep and and just through 122 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: teaching and finally a Big Thing three is respond looking 123 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: forward to Sunday's game against the Colts. This will be 124 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: a big game as the Jaguars look to sweep the 125 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: Colts for the first time since two thousand and fourteen. 126 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: But all eyes will be on the Jaguars and if 127 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: they can get back to a winning way after two 128 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: very disappointing weeks. It's all about watching that film, moving 129 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: on and um and growing from that game because there's 130 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: we we left a lot of yards out there last 131 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: game too, So just doing our job and not trying 132 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: to do, you know, do too much. Just focus on 133 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: what you can do and can control you can control. 134 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: And Big Thing one and Big Things too are similar 135 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: and they're both about taking a breath, and they're both 136 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: about patients. And no one wants to hear that. We 137 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: don't want to hear that, we don't want to talk 138 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: about it. But when you talk about this young quarterback, 139 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: when you talk about this young team, yeah, this is 140 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: gonna take some time. There's gonna be some ups and downs. 141 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna go beat someone they're not supposed to be 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: this year. They're gonna lose two teams they're supposed to 143 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: win this year. That's just seems to be the theme 144 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: of the season. When my mother used to get mad 145 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: at me when I was a kid, which happened sometimes, Brian, 146 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. She would go on and on in 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: our little Maverick over in University of Boulevard and she 148 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: would talk about, I've talked to you till I'm blue 149 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: in the face. About this, the old term blue in 150 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: the face. Well, that's what we all talked about all 151 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: off season until we were blue in the face, that 152 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: they were gonna be ups, they were going to be downs. Uh. 153 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: The other day was a big down, but there's gonna 154 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: be more of them. Doug said it in the big 155 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: in the big thing, I take two. Uh, that nobody 156 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: wants to be patient anymore. He also, which I get. 157 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: He also went on after that to talk about, um, 158 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: we're we're gonna keep working, We're gonna have moments. And 159 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing it not very well, but he was making 160 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: the point that it doesn't mean you're giving up, it 161 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you don't think you can do things. 162 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is with this quarterback adapting to 163 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: this offense, he has seen it. He saw it in 164 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: Philly two sixteen and two thousand seventeen, really really good. 165 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: He outlined it that I think he believes that's how 166 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna go, although he can't lay it out with 167 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: an outline for him every week publicly, I don't doubt. 168 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean, having talked to him over the last couple 169 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: of months since he arrived, and and and seeing the 170 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: way that he's done things, I know he knows what 171 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: he's doing. I've got that We'll just go back to 172 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: Sunday for the last time. There are moments where you 173 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: and all the efforts of just the front office side, right, 174 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, selling tickets, getting people engaged again, where you 175 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: feel like, after how many times have I been a 176 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: rotary club where IVE said it's coming right and and 177 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: then it crashes and you keep thinking, you keep hoping 178 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: that that Sunday was that statement. Here we are, we're 179 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: climbing now over a team that wasn't as good as 180 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: they are right there, well, coach, but the rosters don't compare. 181 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: And um, and that's the hard part is is that 182 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people, not just fans, but people 183 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: on this side of the building who pushing hard every 184 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: week to you know, fill the stadium, to sell the advertisements, 185 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: to make this whole thing work. And when it doesn't, 186 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: that's where the empty feeling comes in. Even though I 187 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: know right that that is part of what this is 188 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: this year, it's still like you're missing opportunity to to 189 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: pay off all the effort that a lot of people 190 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: have brought into it. And I know the players don't 191 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: think that way, and the coaches don't have time to 192 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: think that way, but I do, and I know what 193 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: was missed on Sunday, and it's frustrating. It's the most 194 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: credibly frustrating. We talked about it more. 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We're back to Jaguars Drive Time on 202 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: a Wednesday, getting ready for a Sunday game against the 203 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: Colts in Indianapolis, and for that we bring in Lara 204 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: over to him from Colts dot com. Lara, thank you 205 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: so much for waking up with us. Thank you guys 206 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: so much for having me. It's always good to be 207 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: with you guys. Yes, for sure, we talk a lots 208 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: and I have a feeling on Sunday this game is 209 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: going to be dramatic. We all know what happened in Jackson, 210 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: all just a couple of weeks ago, and we all 211 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: know the Jaguars have struggled since then, and the Jaguars 212 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: players are already talking about when they go to Indie 213 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna get the Colts best. So what do you 214 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: expect from Sunday, Well, both teams are coming off pretty 215 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: ugly games, right. You had each team in a bit 216 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: of a defensive battle, so to speak. Neither really saw 217 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: the type of offensive production last weekend Week five that 218 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: they were aiming for. The Colts had that gritty victory 219 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football in Denver in which it was 220 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: a field goal fest. Chase McLoughlin, who had just been 221 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: signed to the Colts roster active roster last week, You've 222 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: been on the practice squad and you know back and 223 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: forth being elevated prior to that, but goes four for 224 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: four and you had to win that game on the 225 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,479 Speaker 1: foot of Chase McLoughlin and on another last minute stand 226 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: by your defense. I mean, right now, Stefan Gilmore is 227 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: looking like the Colts m v P at this point 228 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: to come up with the game clinching plays that he 229 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: has in both the Colts victories so far. That's one 230 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: of the things that is difficult about playing so many 231 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: divisional games so early in this season, like you're seeing 232 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: for the Colts and for the Jags. Looking at the 233 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: cold schedule, it's five out of the first seven against 234 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: the division. You started this season with back to back 235 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: division games on the road. That was an ugly game 236 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Week two for the Indianapolis Colts down there in jackson 237 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: villein When I talked to Frank Wright this week, he said, 238 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: I asked him, what do you see as being things 239 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: you can draw from in that first meeting, But then 240 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: also how are each team? How is each team a 241 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: little bit different than what you saw, And he said, 242 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: both teams are better than they were in Week two, 243 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: because you know, with with both situations for the Jags, 244 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: you have a new head coach. You have a lot 245 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: of new pieces there, and for the Colts, an entirely 246 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: new defense, a lot of new pieces with the new 247 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: quarterback who's getting used to a new offensive line. You 248 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: had new additions to the defense along with that new 249 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: defensive scheme under dust Bradley. So both things were still 250 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: trying to figure things out. And I think for the Cults, 251 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure out a lot of things 252 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: offensively at this point have yet to find the stride, 253 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: the continuity, the production that you were hoping to see 254 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: thus far when you have Jonathan Taylor and you have 255 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and the pieces that they do surrounding them. 256 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: So I think that each team is on a mission 257 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: to establish themselves, establish themselves and find their identity as 258 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: we get into the second quarter of the season. The 259 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: Colts were able to have a bit of that many 260 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: bye week coming off a win in Denver, So it 261 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: does seem like that this is a team that is 262 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: recharged and knows the opportunity that you have not just 263 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: this week being at home against Jackson Mill, but also 264 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: going on the road next week and facing Tennessee. You 265 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: really have to own this quarter of this season. If 266 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts are going to find a way to 267 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: be in the conversation to lead the division. Good morning, 268 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: l Why is the offensive line of Indianapolis, which had 269 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: been among the league's best for the last five or 270 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: six seasons, why has it not played up to its 271 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: standard this year? I think if I had that answer, 272 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sitting in this year. I'd be sitting 273 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: in a in a chair, maybe over on the other 274 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: side of the building, get maybe getting a bigger paycheck 275 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: if I could figure out exactly the offensive line right now. 276 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: But the one thing is a lot of guys playing, 277 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, in different positions, and they have in the past. 278 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: Where you have Matt Pryor, who shifted over to left tackle, 279 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: he's more of a natural right tackle, shifted over to 280 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: be the starting left tackle this season. That was, you know, 281 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: a new position for him in terms of being the 282 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: starter um at left tackle because last season it was 283 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: Eric Fisher. Then you have Dna Pinter, who had been 284 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: your backup center last year, shifting over to play right 285 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: guard alongside Brandon Smith. You of course have your solidified 286 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: pieces with Ryan Kelly, Quenton Nelson and Brandon Smith. So 287 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: you did have three of your five that are on 288 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, the top paid offensive line in football, and 289 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Quinton of course you're all Pro Everything, who had just 290 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: signed that extension earlier this season. But one of the 291 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: things that's just a lot of shifting and a lot 292 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: of rotation that you had those new pieces and new 293 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: guys who were stepping in. The other thing is at 294 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: at Denver, excuse me, on Thursday night, you had just 295 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: to walkthroughs, and they decided to mix things up and 296 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: shift guys around and move guys into different positions to 297 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: try to see if there would be a different offensive 298 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: line combination that would provide more protection for Matt Ryan. 299 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: So I think the biggest component there is you have 300 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: guys who were thrust into new situations, into new positions 301 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: starting on the offensive line than you have had in 302 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: the past, and you were counting on guys to elevate themselves. 303 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: And you always think that when you are playing alongside 304 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: guys like you know, all Pro Pro Bowl or Quenton Nelson, 305 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl or Ryan Kelly, and then Brandon Smith as well, 306 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: who is one of the more underappreciated guys for all 307 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: that he's able to do for this offensive line. It's 308 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna make those new guys who are stepping in better 309 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: and they're going to be tasked to elevate their game. 310 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: But they just have not yet found They have not 311 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: yet been on the same page. And one of the 312 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: things that offensive line keeps saying is we just have 313 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: to play more physical up front, and they have faced 314 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: some really tough defenses. That has been a factor certainly. 315 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that was one thing that we saw in 316 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: Jackson built with the defensive front that you guys have. 317 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: It's they've had some tall tasks to begin this season. 318 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: So they are going to need to find that and 319 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: find out with a new quarterback, uh, sooner rather than later. 320 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: This is with apologies to Quentin Nelson, but you can 321 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: make the argument that Jonathan Taylor and Shack Leonard are 322 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: the colts two best players um and they've been out. 323 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: They've also made runs at the end of the season 324 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: a lot in recent years. Is there a feeling that 325 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: if they can just get those two back and healthy, 326 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: that there's a late season run in this team, Laura, 327 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: I think that you could certainly make that point. One 328 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: of the things is for Jonathan Taylor, he didn't miss 329 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: time until that Thursday game, in Jacksonville. You still had him. 330 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: He had you know, he did have a great game 331 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: Week one. They were able to get the ground game 332 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: going against Houston, but they had not been able to 333 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: get Jonathan at that type of production that you would 334 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: anticipate from last year's league leading rusher. And for Shock, 335 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: this was something that you expected. He was coming off 336 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: the back surgery. He had a lot of recovery, not 337 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: just from the back of the ankle, but also the 338 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: nerves that were in there that they had to treat 339 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: and they had to address when he had that injury. 340 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: And then he's gonna miss more time because you saw 341 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: the collision that he had was Ziah Franklin at the 342 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: goal line. It dented his face mask, broke his nose. 343 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: He's in concussion protocol. So now that's gonna be more time. 344 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: So the Colts have to figure it out without Shaquille Leonard, 345 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: and you have other weapons. We heard a lot of 346 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: conversation about how they would utilize nihme Hines differently. Look 347 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: at what you've gotten from your tight ends thus far. 348 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: The rookie July Woods and Molly Cox have both stepped 349 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: up big for you as well. One of the tasks 350 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: that you were going to have to address as an offense. 351 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: You knew how teams were going to scheme for a 352 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: guy like Jonathan Taylor. It's obvious what you're gonna try 353 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: to do with Jonathan Taylor. You've gotta find ways to 354 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: win and utilize the other pieces that you have, the 355 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: other guys you have surrounding you. So I do think that, 356 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: and you saw it in Denver. They did get good 357 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: production from guys like Dion Jackson and Philip Lindsay. You 358 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: hope that this is just a one game occurrence for 359 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. It doesn't seem like it's anything that is 360 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: going to linger for much longer. The Colts will have 361 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: their first practice of the week this afternoon, so we 362 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: hope to get some more clarity on Jonathan Taylor. But 363 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: now you have a compounding concern because on Thursday Night football, 364 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw it, but Naime 365 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: Hines could barely get to his feet after taking a 366 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: pretty violent hit, a pretty violent tackle down to the grass. 367 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: So you might be without Naim Hines. You have to 368 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: prepare for that scenario. He seemed to be pretty good 369 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: over the weekend. Frank Craich said that even on Thursday 370 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: in the locker room at halftime, he said, Hey, I 371 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: want to go back in. You know I'm ready to 372 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: go on fine. Uh, you know I've had taken harder 373 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: hits than that. And Coach Wright said, that's when we 374 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: have to protect players from themselves. We knew he was 375 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: gonna be out, so we had to just, you know, 376 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: find ways to figure it out beyond that and the 377 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: longer term hell of Naime Hines is a greater concern 378 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: than his availability in that football game. So it sounds 379 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: like that things are trending well for naih just based 380 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: on conversations I was able to talk with him as well. 381 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: We'll see if he is out there today. But there, 382 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: of course all of those steps and they have refined 383 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: a lot of that concussion protocol, as you guys are 384 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: well aware. So we'll see what his outlook and his 385 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: trajectory is for the remainder of the week. But yeah, 386 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: you have to just find wlace to do it. We 387 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: talked about all the time. It's the old mantre, you 388 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: hear it, text man up and the linebackers have played 389 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: very well without Shaquille Leonard Zaire Franklin leads the league, 390 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: is tied for the league lead in tackles to this 391 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: point of this season. And you have Bobby Ocarrick who 392 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: has stepped up and made a huge piece to this defense. 393 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: So far, this Colts defense has yet to allow a 394 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: point in the fourth quarter or in overtime. So despite 395 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: Jack Leonard, you found ways to win. Now it's time 396 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: for the offense. You know, despite the production that you 397 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: may or may not get from Jonathan Taylor, you've got 398 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: to find ways to win another with other weapons. A 399 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: lot going on, but we know Sunday will be interesting. Nonetheless, Lair, 400 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on Jags Drive Him. 401 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: We will see you in Indie on Sunday. Hey, look 402 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: forward to having you guys here making the truck up north. 403 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely when we come back on Jaguars Drive Time. Some 404 00:19:52,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: this or that on the Jaguars Digital Network. Price dot 405 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: Com is the easiest way to save money with comparison 406 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: shopping cash back coupons all in one. It's free trip 407 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: price dot Com today. This that this that We're back 408 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: Jaguarys Drive Time on a Wednesday, which means it's time 409 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 1: for this or that. Looking forward to Sunday's game against 410 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: the Colts. Ryan what he got for us? Well, this 411 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: is this boils down to old school versus new school, right, 412 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean in this very room, I used to hear 413 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin talk about mix and balance and he was 414 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: talking about run versus pass ratio. I mean he was 415 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: and look at what he won with it, right, two 416 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowls was a part of a lot of winning football. Um. 417 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: But that was then and this is now. And so 418 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: you've got Doug who doesn't care at all about mix. 419 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he knows he needs to run to some 420 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: degree to be able to set up play action and 421 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: do things that he wants to do. Dog didn't care 422 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: about balance. He didn't care about mix. So there's been 423 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: a lot of holabloop this week about you know, why 424 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: not more run? Why not more run? And I thought 425 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: we had explained this. Dog didn't care about that. It's 426 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: old school versus new school. What you want? What do 427 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: you want? Would you rather have balanced? John? Well, No, 428 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't care, because I mean it depends on what 429 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: you believe. Offensively. Uh. If if you're an offense that 430 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: runs the way Tom ran his offense, then balance is 431 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: very important. But if you watch the Chiefs. If if 432 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: you watch teams which Doug Peterson's offense is Andy Reid Base, 433 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: it's his own offense. But there's a lot of similarities. 434 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: They don't care about it. Uh, the numbers don't necessarily 435 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: add up because you're supposed to in this offense catch 436 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: short passes and turn them into four or five yard 437 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: runs to get yourself into second and five, third and two. Uh. 438 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: Some of those little drops that people don't notice. The 439 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: that's part of in Doug's offense what people think of 440 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: as their run game. So I don't think it's it's 441 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: nearly as important as people think. Um, and it's not 442 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's not how he's gonna run the offense. 443 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: And look, their thirteenth in the NFL in total yards. 444 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: They had four and twenty two yards of offense the 445 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: other day. If your average four twenty two yards offense, 446 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: you're in the top five in the league. Um, they 447 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: have to execute in the red zone. Now, maybe in 448 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: the red zone on second and one, should you have 449 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: run there? Uh? Maybe, But I think if you're Doug, 450 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna hang Trevor out publicly. But if 451 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: you're Doug, You're you're saying on second and one from 452 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: the seven, we called a rollout. If he runs out 453 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: of bounds, we have a first down, we have a 454 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: new set of downs. It was not a bad call. 455 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: So I guess fans can want the run, but they're 456 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: not gonna get it in the way that they're used 457 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: to getting it because that's not what this offense is. Well, 458 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: and then Jack delil was here interrupted. There was so 459 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: much conversation about three yards and a cloud of dust. 460 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: And you know, it was good for a while when 461 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: you had Maurice and Fred both running in their prime, 462 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: but people wanted to see this passing offense. Finally, you 463 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: have a quarterback and he's he's paired with a coach 464 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: that has this modern approach to it that that's the 465 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: mind shift has to change because they're not going back 466 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: the other he was. People look at the stats and say, well, 467 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: they're running so effectively, why don't they do it more. 468 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: If you ran more in this scheme and you kept 469 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: turning around and grinding when the other team knows it's coming, 470 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: it's not going to be as effective. Dougs all about 471 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: running situations where you can be effective running do not 472 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: run into brick walls where you're not going to be effective. 473 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: It's not going to change. This is what the offense 474 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: is and hopefully they get third the NFL like thirtieth 475 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: last year with he didn't score the other day. But 476 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't get the impression that the scoring, except for 477 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: at one play the run pass bounce, wasn't affecting the scoring. 478 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: It's it's not like those long runs from E. T. N. 479 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: And said, just keep giving him the ball. He's the 480 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: hot hand. But he had a hot hand because they 481 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: ran in situations where that mates exactly right. And I 482 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: get White fans are saying, well, why are you doing 483 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: something that isn't working? And this is working, so let's 484 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: do this that is working. But if this is the offense, 485 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: and Coach Peterson was saying, especially with Trevor, to have 486 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: that consistency of learning this offensive scheme does no good 487 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: change in it. Now. This is it. You gotta learn 488 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: it this way. And I might say some time. They're 489 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: building it around his skill set. They'll get better at it. 490 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: That's why he keeps saying he'll get better. They'll get better. 491 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: You get better when you just run the ball out 492 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: of bounds. For the first down Trevor right. I mean 493 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: we could all see that. So now he's got to 494 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: take that and go right. Doug keeps saying in the 495 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: press conference is when he's asked about is the players 496 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: are there? Uh, that means that the players with hair 497 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: and then not being executed it. At some point they 498 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: have to execute it. And there's no other way for 499 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: him to say that. There's no other way to make 500 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: that nicer and say, well, we're doing it right. They 501 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: aren't doing it right. You can't say that though, well, 502 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: I said, but he's not saying. I mean, yeah, what 503 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: do you got I have? Christian Kirk or z A Jones? 504 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: Is the topic? What's more important A big game for 505 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, the big game for a Jones? Well, it's 506 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: all important. You gotta get the passing game going. They 507 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: only had they had a bunch of targets. I think 508 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: they had like twenty four yards receiving together. That's gotta 509 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: get better. I think it's more important right now for 510 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: this offense to get Christian Kirk going again. Uh. It's 511 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: hard to figure out why that didn't happen the other day. 512 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes blips happened like that for receivers. He had one 513 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: catch for eleven yards I think it was, and three targets. 514 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: I I expect that to be dramatically different on Sunday. 515 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: I think they will make an effort to get Christian 516 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: Kirk the ball. Uh as this, I don't say as 517 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk goes, the offense goes, but he sure helps Trevor, 518 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: and as Trevor goes, the offense goes. So I'll say 519 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: Jones because it's clear the last two weeks that the 520 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: Eagles and the Texans were taking Christian Kirk away right Uh, 521 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: Doug said there was some place for him and maybe 522 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: he Trevor missed those. Um. But I think it's important 523 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: to get Zay Jones going because I go back to 524 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: training camp and they were all excited. Trevor in particular, 525 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: was really excited about all the different things that Day 526 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: could do. There's got to be somebody on the other 527 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: side of Christian Kirk. There's got to be a go 528 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: to option, somebody that will allow Kirk to get free. 529 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: So I think it's important that they get Za Jones 530 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: going so that they don't have to force the ball 531 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: into Christian Kirk. Remember, he tried to force it on 532 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: that interception in the third quarter in Philadelphia, and if 533 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: he dumps it out to Agne, they probably score touchdown 534 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: and take the lead. And there were opportunities talked about 535 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: forcing the ball down the field in his postgame news 536 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: conference on Sunday, He's trying to force things. They're trying 537 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: to force it to Christian Kirk. Take a deep breath, 538 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: get Jones to catch it because he didn't the other day, 539 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: and then the Kirk opportunities will come. Yeah, it's almost 540 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: like the security blanket. Lot times. We talk about it 541 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: as a good thing can be a bad thing when 542 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: you do it too much. And we say that, Okay, 543 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: Trevor goes, Christian goes, I think of zages, Christian goes. 544 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Zay has to be on the field to get the 545 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: pressure off of Christian Kirk because it's clear the recipe 546 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: now is, oh, they're throwing a Kurk, let's cover him. 547 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: We saw that in Los Angeles especially. All Right, my 548 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: this or that is sweep or make it five in 549 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: a row. And we're talking about Sunday's game. This would 550 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: be that the Jaguars win. This would be the first 551 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: time they sweep the colt since two thousand and fourteen seventeen. Now, 552 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: the Jaguars have lost the past four ease to the Colts. 553 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: So are they gonna sweep? Are they gonna make it 554 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: five losses in a row? We're just basically predicting Sunday's game. Yeah, 555 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: sorry about it, but we're just calling it as it is. Yeah, 556 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, I'm gonna go with the 557 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: Jags winning in Andy. Here's why, because I think they're 558 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: a better team. Right That doesn't mean necessarily that they're 559 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: going to execute better, but I think that their roster 560 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: is better. I think that the defensive line, if they're 561 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: healthy with Flukan and I'm sorry, we fully fought, I 562 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: think that they've got an advantage there. Uh, the culture 563 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: b up. I'm gonna go with it. I'm going to 564 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: say that they find a way to pull it all 565 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: back together after two bad games. I don't trust him 566 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: right now, based on last week. I don't want to 567 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: do that, but I'm trying to be consistent. I don't 568 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: like the Colts. I don't think they're that good right now. 569 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: I think they're beat up, and I think that this 570 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: team has a better roster, So I'll go with the 571 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars in a field goal, last play the game field goal. 572 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: What do I want to happen or what I think 573 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: will happen. I think it's I think the Colts are 574 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: gonna win because I think they seem to this year 575 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: have had a knack for winning ugly, grinded out games 576 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: when they win. They beat the Chiefs that way, they 577 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: beat the Broncos that way. They seem to be a 578 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: team that's sort of hanging on and doing things that way. 579 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: That's what well A should say. That's what I worry 580 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: about with this game. Um Diddy was so unpredictable right now. 581 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: I hate the phrase you don know which team is 582 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: gonna show up? And it feels like, uh so I'm 583 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: gonna flip a coin and go Colts because at home, 584 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: because it's so tough to beat the team that a 585 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: second time in the division, and all those factors that 586 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel great about the pig No, And and 587 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: you say you don't know what team is gonna show up, 588 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: that's the Jaguars right now? Are that the Jaguars in 589 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles? The Jaguars last week? What team is gonna 590 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: show up? Because that's two totally different teams. And and 591 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: and to be fair, I mean the flip side of 592 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: the guy is that there are a team that finds 593 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: a way to hang on and win. Yes, but if 594 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson just throws it to kJ Hamler instead of 595 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: trying to force the ball, and I mean he was 596 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: wide open, they win. And and the Chiefs gave them 597 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: that game with the mistakes and the penalties, and I 598 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: mean that blah right, Um, so I just I just 599 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: given away a couple of games to no. No. Well, 600 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: but that's how it works the cultures. I totally get that. 601 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: But I just don't think that we have seen good 602 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: Colts teams, right, We've seen good Coult teams that have 603 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: run over this team and then taking the lead and 604 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: then let to go right and just held on for 605 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: a win. I just don't think it's the same thing. 606 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: I guess my worry is right now, the Jaguars look 607 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: like a team that is doing a good job of 608 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: keeping other teams in the game. Yes, so that's where, 609 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: So that that makes sense. I just we'll see, Yeah, 610 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: I think this will just go with We'll see and 611 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: we'll just see what happens. And that's what happens when 612 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: you lose a game like you do at home. No 613 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: one's quite sure. Old Jaguars, we don't think so, but 614 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: they have to go prove it on Sunday. And that 615 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 1: is this starret that presented by Price dot Com. When 616 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: we come back on Jaguars Drive Time, some closing thoughts. 617 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars Game Day Radio is brought to you by Vice 618 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: Star Credit Union, Do Good, Think Better? One more segment 619 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: to go here on Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday, 620 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: a busy week. As we get back on the practice 621 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: field today, back in the locker room, seeing if the guys, 622 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll say next one. We're moving on. We're 623 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: looking at the Colts. Brian, what are you going on 624 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: to speak? I am going to visit with Richard and Ghulo, 625 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: the tight ends coach, who, interesting enough, was a player 626 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: on this team, uh ten years ago. He's part of 627 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: the great OH seven team. Uh. He and Tony Gilbert, 628 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: the middle linebackers coach. We're teammates and now they're coaching together. 629 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go visit with Richard and Goola a 630 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: little bit today. Love, it's John, what about you? I 631 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: will at four o'clock today, I'll be on the Huddle 632 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Up Podcast with Bucky Brooks's Bucky Brooks l Networks of 633 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: of the Bucky Brooks Jaguars Network on the Bucky Brooks Show. Uh, 634 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: brought to you by Bucky Brooks. Yeah, and uh, I 635 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: am not sure the Ozone podcast and guests this week. 636 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: We're still working on that, so, but I predict we 637 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: will have a guest and it will not be Bucky Brooks. No, 638 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: we're overhand. Right off the field this week is Travis E. 639 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: T N, who's coming off a great game. If you're 640 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: gonna look at a positive from Sunday, it is Travis 641 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: et N. So he will be off the field and 642 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: we'll be back on Jaguars drivetime tomorrow morning. We will 643 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: see you here, m hm.