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Speaker 1: Hey, professional homegirls, I hope all is cute. Is Shugary

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Speaker 1: ebone here and we are back with part two of

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Speaker 1: my conversation with paranormal investigator Tawny Lewis.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you thought part one was wild, wait until

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Speaker 2: you hear this one.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, Tawnie takes.

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Speaker 2: Us even deeper into her world.

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Speaker 1: From teaching classes at Lilydale, which, by the way, is

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Speaker 1: one of the world's oldest and most.

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Speaker 2: Famous spiritualist communities.

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Speaker 1: It's a place known for its mediums, psychic readings, and

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Speaker 1: powerful energy that draws people from all over the world.

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Speaker 1: Tawny also shared some of her places that hold the

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Speaker 1: most energy in y'all. We even got caught up in

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Speaker 1: the spirit of Marvin Gay. Yes you heard right, Marvin Gay.

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Speaker 1: And before we wrapped up, Tawny revealed the top designation

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Speaker 1: she's dying to explore next on.

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Speaker 2: Her paranormal journey.

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Speaker 1: So sick back, get ready because I'm a paranormal investigator.

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Speaker 1: Part two starts now, So, what's your process for preparing

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Speaker 1: for an investigation?

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Speaker 3: It depends so for a private investigation. So for example,

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Speaker 3: years ago, there was a lady who said that her

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Speaker 3: son was saying something in his room and he couldn't

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Speaker 3: with like a team of friends that they were professional investigators.

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Speaker 3: I did none. I'm trying to think of that. This

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Speaker 3: fill out the house healthy seven six or seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was miles like, get that goes, get out of here. Ye. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: that we got there, I did a prayer with them,

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Speaker 3: so I do a prayer before an investigation after one,

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Speaker 3: then we just did a walk through the house. So

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Speaker 3: it's a long story, but just to tell you the process,

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Speaker 3: being like that's the room, it was more of being like, okay,

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Speaker 2: She was telling me about this off the air.

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Speaker 3: I love it. So Lilydale is a hamlet community. It

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Speaker 3: is about an hour away from Buffalo, New York, and

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Speaker 3: it was I want to say, the community was built

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Speaker 3: They're gorgeous. Every person that lives in Lilydale is a

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Speaker 3: It's so many everybody wants to teach in Lilydale. It

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Speaker 3: That's what she does. She used to groups. She was like, tany,

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Speaker 3: They shut down. They wouldn't they were supposed to help me.

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Speaker 2: Your experiences with them, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that's the little deil. Sorry I went

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Speaker 3: But I got it under control the following year. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Everybody was like, oh wow, good for you, good for you.

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Speaker 1: It sounded like hearing stuff like that because I feel like,

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Speaker 1: I never heard Lily Dale before. So the fact that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only one other that I've heard. I don't

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Speaker 3: I was I remember being like, oh, another minority, this

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Speaker 3: I I think, and you know, there's that's absolutely no

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Speaker 1: It's a really good feeling especially Yeah, I mean, don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's pretty cool. So I know you spoke about

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Speaker 3: I do, And it's funny. I normally wear it for interviews.

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Speaker 3: I usually wear a master crystal cords because I was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, its huge, big crystal. I'll usually wear it that.

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Speaker 3: Some people have asked me what should I wear? Is

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Speaker 3: say keep it in your purse. It clears negative energy.

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Speaker 3: On one girl, she told me like, I really like

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Speaker 3: tiger Eye. I said, see, keep that one on you.

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Speaker 3: That's what you're drawn to. But for me, yeah, a

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Speaker 3: that in my purse. But yeah, I definitely wear it

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Speaker 3: for every investigation. And then yeah, I do a prayer beforehand,

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Speaker 3: I did years ago at Brack and Firm Manor and

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the let me separated the bracken Fern Manor

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was he was done. He was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: So, speaking of Hollywood, with all of the energy and

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Speaker 3: Ooh, there's so many places out in Hollywood. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: Hollywood Forever Cemetery. Yeah, I it's a beautiful cemetery.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of cemetery tany not a beautiful cemetery.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting about it, and I kind of joke

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Speaker 2: Eating lunch at the cemetery. Oh yeah, but if you.

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Speaker 3: If you look up Hollywood Forever Cemetery, it's like a

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Speaker 3: was like, it's beautiful, but I'm sorry, I'm not like

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Speaker 3: It's open every day from like eight to five. Go

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, but you don't think that's kind of like disrespectful

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Speaker 3: I think it's I hear you, because that's why I

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Speaker 3: It's a thing they do. It's like a big thing

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Speaker 3: That's one thing that I think would be so cool.

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Speaker 3: And that's one thing that bothers me is that there's

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Speaker 3: His father's house. That's all I was like, letna be

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Speaker 3: my understanding, it's never been investigated, but they have done

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say Marvin's haunting it, but I definitely believe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a crazy thing is is one of the

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Speaker 1: I don't know too much about Marvin, like I like,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't like a fan of his music or anything.

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Speaker 3: like research. Again, I was like, Wow, he had a

430
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 3: lot of problems, like a lot of demons and at

431
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: some point in his life to where who knows, who

432
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 3: knows what went on in that house to where his

433
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: dad felt like he needed to shoot.

434
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: His own child, especially through the heart at that.

435
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 3: See, yes, like what happened? What was he saying? What

436
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 3: was his energy? Like? Like what brought him that low.

437
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Now, what are some places on your

438
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: list of scariest or most hunted places that you want

439
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 1: to visit around the world.

440
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: Oh, people think I'm crazy. The Velesca Axe Murderhouse. What's that? Oh? Okay,

441
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: it's in Iowa. Oh I was gonna mixed up, I girl,

442
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: that's why, haven't bet that's what I haven't been. I

443
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 3: think it's Iowa and it's yeah, a family of I

444
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: want to say six or seven. I might be wrong,

445
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: but some person came and murdered like the whole family,

446
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 3: the husband, the wife, and like six kids. And they

447
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: say that house is just active, mostly of the kids

448
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 3: and a lot. You could spend the night there. I

449
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 3: was like, what, I don't want to spend the night.

450
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: I just just nosy and want to investigate it. But yeah,

451
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 3: they spend the night there and there it's very active.

452
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 3: So that's why I was always interested where like people say,

453
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: they get a lot of activity there. So that's one

454
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to investigate. The Tower of London because

455
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: they say, like, what do you call it? What's her name?

456
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't think of her name right now.

457
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: So she was beheaded a queen or she would be

458
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: headed or whatever. Sorry I popped in my head. What's

459
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 3: her name? A queen was beheaded and they say that

460
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 3: they see her walking around the Tower of London with

461
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 3: no head. Yeah, it's bothering me that I can't think

462
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: of her name right now because I'm very into like

463
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 3: her story. But yes, we had it and I'm trying

464
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: to think right now if I can think of it. Whatever,

465
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: And uh, that's place Tower of London and then anywhere

466
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: in Scotland because I like castles and I have never

467
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 3: been in one, and I feel drawn to them. So

468
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that one day I get to investigate a castle.

469
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: Queen and Boylan her and Bolan Okay, yeah and Bolan

470
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: that's the one says she. They say they see her

471
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: walking around. I was like interesting, so but yeah, those

472
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: are That's the top like top of my head. For years,

473
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to investigate the Whaley House, which is in

474
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 3: San Diego, and I've done it multiple times over the years.

475
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: But I remember being young, like Waiting House, Whaley House.

476
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: But I would recommend that to anybody that with that. Oh,

477
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: the Whale House is in San Diego, so from from me,

478
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: it's two hours south. It's was building eighteen I want

479
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: to say, like eighteen fifty. It's been a few things.

480
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 3: It was like a courthouse at one point. Then I

481
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: think it was like a general store. It was a

482
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: few things, but it sounds like from history it was

483
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: kind of always haunted because the people the way family

484
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: lived there in like the late eighteen hundreds, and they

485
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: thought it was haunted at the time, and then they

486
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 3: all started dying. There was a little girl that got

487
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 3: I think she got choked by what do you call

488
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: it something? She was running outside. I think she got choked,

489
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: so that a little girl died there. They had a

490
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: daughter named Violet Hear. Her fiance called off the engagement,

491
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: so she went to the top floor and jumped out

492
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: the window from depression. She didn't die and was upset

493
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: she didn't die, so she ran back in the house

494
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: and found her father's shotgun and shot herself, and she

495
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: died on the sofa. Then the mother. Different things happened there.

496
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: It was just tragedy. Tragedy, But that is one of

497
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: the most active places I've ever been. It is a

498
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: museum during the day, so you can walk through me

499
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 3: out of their hair in thirty minutes. You go in there,

500
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: you'll be like, I'm just here to look at the museum.

501
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: You go in and out. But at night when they

502
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: have investigations, they like to talk. They like to communicate,

503
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: especially the one that shot herself in the stomach. She's

504
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: the most active one. My experience, they years ago. I

505
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: was with my best friend and we always thought this

506
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: was interesting. We were doing investigation and we were getting

507
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 3: a lot of hits from a Indian girl, at least

508
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: from the responses, and we told the guide and he says, wow,

509
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,239
Speaker 3: he said, that's crazy. He said, she never comes out

510
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,239
Speaker 3: when we do investigations. He said there was he's my

511
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: best friend. My best friend is Latino, and so he

512
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,239
Speaker 3: was darker. And then she saw and he said she

513
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 3: never comes out. And he said the Walies had a

514
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: maid and it was the Indian girl. And he said

515
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: they made her sleep in a separate quarter of the house,

516
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: which is where we were, which is now the courtroom.

517
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 3: And they used to be and I remember how talkative

518
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: she or it was years ago responsive and my friend

519
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: was like, she taught to us because we were different

520
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 3: and we weren't. She was like, oh, look at these

521
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: two there their skin is close to mine, you know,

522
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: And I never forgot that. Yeah, she was talking to us,

523
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: but you know, a Whalley house san Diego strongly and

524
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: I would recommend you look it up to you'd be like,

525
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: it's interesting.

526
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but THEND you go to Lizzy Bordon's house too.

527
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 3: I did, but it was more like I was I

528
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: had to go. Okay. I went to Salem, Massachusetts, and

529
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I'm going to rental

530
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: car literally for six hours and drive to Fall River,

531
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: which is the other way. And I went to the

532
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: tour and I couldn't do an investigation. Long story. I

533
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: was by myself and I had a room in Salem,

534
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 3: which was an hour north, and I was like, okay,

535
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 3: I'm not saying like I just left. And so I

536
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: did an investigation, took some videos and stuff. I went

537
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: to her grave, which was like five minutes away from

538
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: the house. I was in a cemetery by myself. I

539
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: don't know what I was thinking. Whatever, I filmed and

540
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: then I made a little video about it. But no,

541
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 3: I have not yet been able to investigate the house.

542
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: I need to.

543
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: And the fact that people can stay at the house,

544
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: it's like a bed and breakfast is so oh yeah.

545
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they made they we were walking through when

546
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, people, what and they

547
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 3: were like, this is one of the rooms and they

548
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: were like that's where her father died. I was like,

549
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: why would I Why would I do that?

550
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: Why would you want to sleep in bed with this

551
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: man died it.

552
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: I was just like, this is great, but it was

553
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: a beautiful house. It's just I would not be able

554
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: to stay in the house over night, but I definitely

555
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 3: would want to investigate it. They have investigations like every night.

556
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: I just yeah, wait, I'm just having a I just

557
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: got a download or a flashback. Wasn't Anne, but only

558
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: the reason why she was beheaded because she couldn't get

559
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: the king any sons.

560
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: Okay. He had six wives that he treated like shit.

561
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: So I'm not certain that she was the one. I

562
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: know that he thought that she was cheating on him

563
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: and without me proof and he was like, offer her head.

564
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember that story, but she might have been.

565
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: One of the ones without the with the sons. I'm

566
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 3: just not sure. I just know he had six and

567
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: he treated them all that crowd.

568
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

569
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so talk about spiritual war Texas because I thought

570
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: this was very interesting too, because you try to stay

571
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: away from him. Yeah, some locations do have four Texas,

572
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: and I don't encounter them very often, thank goodness. It's

573
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: basically the beast way. For me to explain it, it's

574
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: just like.

575
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: A portal, a ball of energy that could lead to anywhere.

576
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: Spirits can come in and out of it. I do,

577
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: and I think, Okay, I do, and it's because I'm

578
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 3: usually able to identify when there is one, and that

579
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: usually like because I rarely encounter them, and it's like

580
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: they can come in and out. It's like a doorway,

581
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: energetic doorway. So let's say, like years ago, I did

582
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: an investigation Ontario, California, and they were like another site

583
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: that she was like, I think there's a portal. There's

584
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: like this cowboy in here that doesn't belong here. He

585
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: just kind of was like, what's happening in and out?

586
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: In and out? And yeah, my friend in northern California,

587
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: she has she has this airbnb. It is be beautiful.

588
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: I am never going back to the airbnb. I rarely

589
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: ever feel sick during the investment, rarely, and that's how

590
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: I do. I was just like, yeah, I don't feel good.

591
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen. And she's like, what, and I said,

592
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: we were going in the basement. I was like, is

593
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: there a portal? And she was like and she knew.

594
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: She was like, uh huh, yeah, I've had so many

595
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: mediums down here and there's you know, we definitely think

596
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: there's one. And I was like, it's just a lot

597
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: of energy. It makes me dizzy, it makes me feel

598
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: off balanced, and it makes me like a little nauseous.

599
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: And I was like, I got to get out of here.

600
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: And then just being in a space, she wanted me

601
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: to do investigations, like more tours. I said, I'm sorry.

602
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: I was like, I can do one more, but I'm

603
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: out of here. I can't. I can't do your house anymore.

604
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: And it's so beautiful too, So yeah, it's just a

605
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: it's just a ball of energy where a spirit can

606
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: enter in and out. They can come and go. But

607
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: that means there could be one hundred in there. Right,

608
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: looks like a door.

609
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, if spirits can come in and out, would you

610
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: say that is the reason why because of the veil

611
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: is thinning.

612
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: That's how it feels, That's how I feel, that's that's

613
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: my interpretation. And see how I say that because there's

614
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: so much ego in the psychic medium field where what

615
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: it is where it's like, no, that's my feeling. My

616
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: interpretation is that, yes, it's the veils cinner then come

617
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: in and out. I think the reason why my whenever

618
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: I'm around it, I'm like, oh, it's because there's too

619
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: many or there's too much energy in the space I

620
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: connected to. Not evil, but thick. There we go too much.

621
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 3: It's like thick and it's like you can't breathe. Another

622
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 3: one I had was that Montana State Prison. That was

623
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: that night I was like, I don't feel good, but

624
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: I'm not shocked. It's a freaking prison. Yeah, I was like,

625
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: what's in here? Good lord? You know how many people

626
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: died in there? So that one that night, I remember

627
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: feeling really sick. But otherwise when I do investigations, I'm fine.

628
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: But that's it's a good thing that that happens. That

629
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: usually means that I need to get out the situation.

630
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: If I feel sick good by I'm like, Okay, nope,

631
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: time to leaf. I'm not gonna sit here and deal

632
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: with something potentially dark.

633
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: So why is it that people are saying that the

634
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: veil thens on certain dates, and why do you why

635
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: is the veil thin?

636
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: It's a belief of a lot of people. There's different reasons,

637
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: you know, some people say they with astrology are what else,

638
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: it's spiritual. I've heard so many different, so many different things.

639
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: My personal opinion is I think the veil ends on

640
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: like Halloween, just because of the sorry, the folklore, the legend,

641
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: the energy. It just feels different, not to me, not

642
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: like in a negative way. It's just like again, it's hard,

643
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: it's hard to explain. It's just it's just a different

644
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: type of energy for me that day. But in terms

645
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: of like the veil vel being thin various days of

646
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: the year, who knows. I've heard so many different theories

647
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: on that.

648
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: So have your views of mortality change over the years.

649
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: It's a really good question.

650
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: Listen, because you look like Oprah. I gotta get my

651
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: Oprah on baby. No, I gotta give you the best

652
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: I got.

653
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: No. No, it's a great question.

654
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, how okay, yes and no it's made okay, yes,

655
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: it's made me more and put that I'm gonna say

656
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: it wrong and I always say emphatic there I think

657
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: it's right emphatic. It's made me more grounded.

658
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: This is okay. This is an example of what I'm

659
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: trying to say. My sister, she had a dog, obsessed

660
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: with the dog had her for fifteen, you know, a

661
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: long long time. And the dog passed and I love

662
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: that dog with all my heart. And my sister was

663
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: just broken, just broken, which makes sense, This makes absolute sense.

664
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: I cried once for two minutes and I was done

665
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: because I felt like I understood mortality. I felt more

666
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: like I understood the afterlife. I got it. I knew

667
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: that she was no longer in pain. I knew that

668
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: she her presence was still around. So I see it

669
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: differently like that. I see it differently where I was

670
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: sat and I say, you know what, she's happy. She's

671
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: gonna be around. I feel her. She's gonna pop around.

672
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: She's not gone, She's forever. I have a different mindset,

673
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: so that will probably be the best way for me

674
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: to describe it. I have a different mindset, which I

675
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: do think is gonna help me as I age and

676
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: I have grief that's gonna happen all around me, people passing.

677
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna be a little bit more control.

678
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: I'll be upset, but then I'll be more controlled. Yeah,

679
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: to understand the other side.

680
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So before we wrap up, what are your

681
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: thoughts on UFOs, Like, have you had any experience with them?

682
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: Because I've been low key kind of fascinated with aliens

683
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: and stuff and just the history. So what are your

684
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: thoughts about it and do you even believe in them?

685
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 3: I definitely believe in them. I am was very terrified.

686
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: That's how I started in a paranormal because I was

687
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: so scared of UFOs when I was a child. I

688
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: was so scared. I felt like I was like, they're

689
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: gonna take me. And I started to learn more about it. Now.

690
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: It's not my specialty in a paranormal, however, I do

691
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: usually bring it up whenever I teach classes. I think

692
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: it's interesting. I do believe them. I definitely don't believe

693
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: that we are alone in this earth. I feel like

694
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: they're starting to show themselves more, which is a positive.

695
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see a lot more.

696
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: See a lot more, Like they're gonna be like walking

697
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: down the street or something.

698
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: I think eventually it's gonna be a slow introduction, A

699
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: slow introduction. Yeah, I do. I just now they're we're

700
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: just seeing them more because they're just like, you know what,

701
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: they probably think low of us. They think that they

702
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: are light years smarter than us. That's just my opinion,

703
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: and they're just probably trying to time it to where

704
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: they actually probably are already here and they're just they're

705
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: you know, covered up because they don't want They are

706
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 3: able to transform themselves every as a human to where

707
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: we're not afraid. So yeah, I do believe in them.

708
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: I no, don't tell me that, girl.

709
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: Are you about to have me look at my Nigga's crazy?

710
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: If I get a moment, I have to send you

711
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: this profile. It's so funny. It's so funny. It's these

712
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: black guys that if people look like an alien or

713
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: they're weird or something different, they start playing the men

714
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 3: in Black theme. It's so freaking funny. If I remember,

715
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: I'll send to you anyway. But no, I whenever I

716
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: teach and it's in my classroom next week, I talk

717
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: about it briefly. And I always talk about the story

718
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: of Travis Walton. Have you heard about him? The movie

719
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: The Fire in the Sky. Uh huh oh Okay, there's

720
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: a movie that came out called Fire in the Sky

721
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: came out in nineteen ninety three. It is based off

722
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: a book by a man named Travis Walton in nineteen

723
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: seventy five. And he was like, yeah, he was twenty five,

724
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 3: him and a group of loggers because they were loggers.

725
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: I think they lived in New Mexico or something. They

726
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: were going to the forest to work and they saw

727
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: something in the forest and please don't ask me why,

728
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: because I don't know why. But he got out the

729
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: car and walked toward it was like, ooh, pretty, I

730
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: don't know and it froze them. And the guys that

731
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: were in the truck saw it. They saw a light

732
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: shine on them, and he froze.

733
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because niggas ain't running up on nothing they don't

734
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: know nothing about.

735
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: And lifted him up in the air. They were in

736
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 3: the car freaking out. They drove off the guy. You

737
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: got like five or six witnesses that saw this man

738
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: get lifted up because they were scared. Travis disappeared for ooh,

739
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: I gotta get my facts straight cause I gotta talk

740
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: about the next week. I think it disobebered for three days.

741
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: He appeared naked at a phone booth some miles away.

742
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: It's a long story, but one I say, watched the movie.

743
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: It's very good. It's it's very good. It's creepy, but

744
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: it's very good. So Fire in the Sky. He does interviews.

745
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: He was even at lily Deal a few years ago

746
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: doing the speech about his time. He's like seventy four

747
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: or seventy five now. It was so frustrating the first

748
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: year I did lily Dale. He was there, but I

749
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: was teaching and he was and I wanted to meet him,

750
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: and I couldn't meet the way if I was busy.

751
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: But no, he the story's fascinating because there are a

752
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: lot of people that don't believe him. So it would

753
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: be very interesting if you watch the movie and then

754
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: maybe you watch the interview, and then you like, like,

755
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: what would you think, Like do you think he's telling

756
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: the truth. I think he's telling the truth. It's it's

757
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: always been a debate over the last few years. I

758
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: think it's real. It's the movie is very good. He's

759
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: very detailed. But then they did a lie detect their test,

760
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: and I want to say that the guys that saw it,

761
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: I think it came back inconclusive or something. But that

762
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: could have been media at the time. They don't want

763
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: us to know about aliens. You know, we don't know,

764
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: we don't know. But yeah, so that's the story I

765
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: always bring up when I'm talking about UFO. So, yes,

766
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: I believe in them.

767
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, really quickly, I promise we almost.

768
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: Done, dode you believe in this.

769
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: I was going down I saw this girl.

770
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: She was talking about different stories that she received from

771
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: people who have like supernatural experiences with either aliens or

772
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: just like just in general, right, and she was telling

773
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: this story about this guy he went to he's about

774
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: to leave, he kissed his door to kiss his wife,

775
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 1: and he's about to go fishing. So as he driving,

776
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: he went fishing whatever, and then like like a flash

777
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: kind of just went off, right, So he didn't think

778
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: nothing of it. He was like, okay, whatever, like maybe

779
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: it's just who knows, right, So when he got.

780
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: Back in, his wife was like, nigga, where you been at.

781
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get in contact with you. I

782
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: I So he was like, I'm okay, Like maybe my

783
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: phone died. She was like yeah, but it's been like

784
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: a days days or something. So he was like really,

785
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: he was like maybe I must have fell asleep. I'm sorry, Blaza.

786
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: So as he walking around, he knows that it was

787
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: really quiet. So he was like, where's baby girl that?

788
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: And she was like, who are you talking about? And

789
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: he was like right, he was like our daughter, Like

790
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: where is she? And she was like, we never had

791
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: a child, And so he went into He's like, yo,

792
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: this was her room. So when I'm getting chills just

793
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: talking about a child. So when he went into the room,

794
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: it was like an office, like the room never existed.

795
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: So then he started going around the house and he

796
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: was looking for pictures and stuff and it was just

797
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: only him and his wife, and he was like, I

798
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: do not know what happened that day, but I know

799
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: I had a child. So when she was telling the story,

800
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: people in a comments section. I don't know why I

801
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: didn't say this, but people in a comments section was

802
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: saying how they remember that same flash and certain things

803
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: in their lives have altered as well.

804
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Ain't that crazy that I haven't heard before?

805
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: But they could have been. Yeah, I believe. See, I

806
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: believe in stuff like that. It's a time warp a yeah, yeah,

807
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: it to be that. There's another word. I can't think

808
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: of it right now. Time bending. There we go. Time bending.

809
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: It's similar to time it. I believe in it. It's

810
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: it's the reason I'm not saying is because there's a

811
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: lot of Okay. When I do my class, I always

812
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: talk about paranormal and what fits in the box, But

813
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: because I'm not an expert on some of it, I

814
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: just touch on it. So like time bending, I know

815
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: a little bit about of it, you know, But I'm like,

816
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna see her in spew Lives. I got

817
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: no idea, but I believe in it. Time warp, I

818
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: believe in it. Reincarnation absolutely, past lives absolutely what else

819
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: is in that box? The cryptis so cryptis are like Mothman, lockness, monster, Bigfoot,

820
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: I believe. I'm smiling because my friend and I had

821
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: a debate on this. I believe that, yes, but there's okay,

822
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: let's back up Bigfoot. My personal belief is Bigfoot is

823
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: a gorilla that is like deformed, are different are chromosome?

824
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: That's my opinion. Like I was like, I believe it's

825
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 3: there's Bigfoot. I just don't know if it's like people

826
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: are like, it's a mythical monster. I'm like, I don't

827
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: know if it's a monster. I just think it's a

828
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: crazy gorilla.

829
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't know disabled.

830
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: My friends and even like you just called it the

831
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: gorilla disable, it's just tony. I was like, I have

832
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: to say, it's not a mythical, mom, but no, I

833
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: do believe in them. But I think there's something just

834
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: like like a chupacabra. It looks like a deranged dog,

835
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: you know that. I'm like, just maybe it's a crazy

836
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: dog coyote mix. So I have like a thought thought

837
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: of that. So but yeah, I believe in that.

838
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

839
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Okay, And last but not least, I feel like we

840
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: could talk for hours because I love talking about this shit.

841
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: What would you say is the positive side of the

842
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: paranormal That people don't talk enough about.

843
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: The historical aspect, which is why I always bring it

844
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: back to. I think it's so interesting. I think it's intriguing.

845
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: I think it's telling people's stories. That's mainly why I

846
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: do it. It's just telling their stories, you know, like

847
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: something really small. As I was walking in Salem last

848
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 3: year and the houses, Oh it's so beautiful and out

849
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: of know where, I just felt like there was a

850
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: young man standing by the fence. He looked like remember

851
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: that my movie. In my head, I thought he was

852
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: maybe fifteen sixteen. He had on like a little colonial hat,

853
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: and I could just feel and he's just laying like

854
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: leaning there and you can see him watching me. And

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Speaker 3: then it's like like good day. And then I'm just

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00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: like thinking to myself, please don't follow me, you know.

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Speaker 3: And then as I'm walking down the street, I could

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Speaker 3: feel him just kind of like but he wasn't like following.

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Speaker 3: It was just like curious, curious, like oh you know,

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Speaker 3: and I was like I feel him, I feel him

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Speaker 3: and feel him. And then he went back to the

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Speaker 3: gate and right they went right back to that spot.

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Speaker 3: So there's something with that space. And then I didn't

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Speaker 3: feel him anymore. And so it's but then that keeps

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Speaker 3: that there's that history, that story. So that's why I

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Speaker 3: do it, you know. I'm just like, wow, I wish,

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Speaker 3: you know, I wish I was there longer, Like let's

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Speaker 3: investigate that house, like what's his story, why is he?

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Speaker 3: Who is he? You know, did was there a kid

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Speaker 3: that died there? He looked like, oh, seventeen hundreds, that's

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Speaker 3: how he was dressed. Like, oh, I'd love to know

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00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: that story. I'll never find out. Probably people probably don't

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00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: even know he's there, you know, unless there's you know,

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Speaker 3: a sensitive But that's what I would say. And I

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00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: think people should not be so fearful of the paranormal,

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Speaker 3: and that's what I always try to teach, because there's

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Speaker 3: aspects of it where you don't have to be scared,

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Speaker 3: Like I don't do that dark demon stuff, like we

879
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: don't have to, We don't have to do that. There's

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00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: other aspects that we can look into and learn about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that was this. This was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to everywhere where they can follow you,

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Speaker 1: keep up with you, support you.

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00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: Yes, Instagram and Intuitive Tawny, which is kind of funny

885
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: because I'm very private and my friends were like, if

886
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: you don't make their page public, Tawi, and I finally did,

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00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: and so I'm glad I did because then people can

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00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: find me and see my stuff. So yeah, Intuitive Tawny.

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Speaker 3: I am also on TikTok with my TikTok is a

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Speaker 3: mixture of like horror, movie clips, paranormal, different things, so

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00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: that same thing add Intuitive Tawny. And then I'm also

892
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: on Facebook, but I don't check out as much. You

893
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: just find me under Townny Lewis, but I'd say Instagram

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00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: is definitely where you can give me.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well this was such a treat, Tawny,

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00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: Like I Spoky series is definitely one of my listener's

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00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: favorite like and I'm gonna send you some links to

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00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: some of the episodes, like it's hands down, like Chef's Kids,

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Speaker 1: like Fire. So I'm so excited that had the pleasure

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Speaker 1: of having you on the show. And I just can't

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Speaker 1: wait to hear what everybody think about our conversation.

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Speaker 3: No, thank you for having me and anybody interested in

903
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Speaker 3: paranormal It's okay if I mentioned some like spooky things

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Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, you know, okay. So Ghost Adventures the

905
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: Poltergeist Curse episode that one started streaming April sixteenth, so

906
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: it's streaming on Discovery Plus and Max please watch that.

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00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: I'm the medium in that episode. Also on TV. There's

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00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff famously haunted Hollywood, I'm on, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: famously Haunted Hollywood, Scariest places in America, scariest places in

910
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 3: the world, all that one. Those are very interesting because

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00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: they talk about a lot of the haunted places and

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Speaker 3: I'm one of the experts on all three of those,

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Speaker 3: and then there's Canadian shows A Paranormal Revenge, and then

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Speaker 3: My Haunted Hometown. I'm an expert on there, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: if you're interested in any of those things, please watch me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, please wake sure.

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Speaker 1: We support our professional homegirls, and if you have any questions, comments,

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Speaker 1: or concerns, you know where to find me at. So

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Speaker 1: until next time, everyone, Later, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Sorry said thank you. I gave you a right.

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