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UNSUNGD deils 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: into the lives of trailblazing musical legends who full stories 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: and journeys have yet to be explored or explained. The 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Serious celebrates the lives and careers of artists of groups who, 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: despite great talents, have been underappreciated, underrecognized. Through firsthand accounts, 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: interviews with family and friends, and archival footage, each episode 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: weaves a tale of the highs and lows of a 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: life in the limelight. My next guest, she's appearing on 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: this episode hip hop's first female rap legend. Radio host 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,559 Speaker 1: TV one's Unsung episode airs March first at ten pm. 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Roxane Chantey. Well, thank you, 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: thank you. I love that intro. Well, first of all, 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: let's let's just talk about this is what I know, 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know your individual. I saw the Netflix 48 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: movie Roxane, Roxanne, and now you're doing this show Unsung, Okay, 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: and the now you know, when they do movies, they 50 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: kind of change stuff around so they can make the 51 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: storyline fit or man bellish it or may underseil certain 52 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: things in that movie. You know, your mom role in 53 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: the movie or kicked out. But what I did take 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: away from that movie between the ages of fifteen and eighteen, 55 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: you led a pretty full life. Absolutely, And what we 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: did actually with the movie is that we kind of 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: took things out of it because we weren't ready. You 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: weren't sure if the world was really ready for Rock 59 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: sand Chante, I want to say, um uncensored. So what 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: we what we did was we act because we wanted 61 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: to make sure that the movie was going to be 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: a movie where parents, especially fathers, were going to be 63 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: able to sit down and watch it with their daughters. 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: So there were certain aspects of the movie things that 65 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: we took out, but we did not add anything to 66 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: it because the Rock sand Shante life definitely doesn't need 67 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: any additive It is definitely great it on its own. So, um, 68 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: everything you see is everything that you saw in the 69 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: movie was factual. There was no Um, we didn't add 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: anything for any dramatic effect. Um, you know, it's just 71 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: how it was. And people look at the movie and say, like, 72 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: you survived that, but you're still standing, You're still smiling. 73 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: You know. I have a radio show daily on Serious 74 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Exam which is called to Have a Nice Day, where 75 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm literally just trying to make sure that the world 76 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: has a nice day or at least get a chance 77 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: to laugh at least once, to forget their problems and 78 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: things that are going on, and to be able to 79 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: do that. I'm able to do that because there's a 80 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: certain resilience that are in us that allows us to say, Okay, 81 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: you know what, these are my problems, this is what 82 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: I went through. But I've also learned how to direct 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: the anger for those that it needs to be directed towards. 84 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: And it led me to live just a happy life. 85 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Well you have a great life, you know. I always 86 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: I always say that, you know, I come from the 87 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: inner city and there are some things that happened to 88 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: me and as I grew up that you know, it 89 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: might not be apable to the average person in the conversation, 90 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: but it didn't damage me. It's part of my Story's 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: part of who I am today. I learned. I always 92 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: tell people, you know, you learn free mistakes. You know, 93 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you learn from it, it doesn't become 94 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: an error in your life. And so so there was 95 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: there there was some funny, fun characters in the movie, 96 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: like the young lady who your your your hype lady 97 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: that was a real person. Yes, absolutely, best friend Katrina, 98 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Yes absolutely, And I think I think everyone needs to 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: have one of those in their life. You need to 100 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: have that person who can give you that extra hype 101 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: that you need when you're unable to hype yourself, because 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: you know there's some days now when we sit back 103 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: and we can't seem to get a jump, and then 104 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: you have that one phone call, that one person that'd 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: be like you better get up and get out there 106 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: to get on something. You know, Look what's going on 107 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: in life. Look how you live, you know, because other 108 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: people can see the value in your situation when you can't. 109 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: You know that that's what I love the character because 110 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: from so so, when did your relationship with her start? 111 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: We're talking to U Rock sand Chte. You're talking about 112 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: the movie Rock sand Rock, saying that aired on Netflix. 113 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: That came out of thinking, Uh, it's a great compelling movie. 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: Soon as as soon as you book for the show, 115 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to watch it again. I gotta I gotta 116 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: got a shop at my rocks and Rocks sand Information 117 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: and uh gave me coming on this show, stumbling and 118 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: so and so. You know, you know, you were just 119 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: born in a great era for rap, you know, and 120 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: and the fact that you were so respected, how did 121 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: that come about? Because you are a female and you know, 122 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: if we all know this is everything is male dominant. 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: You know, you know women can't compete with me. They 124 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: could physically mentally, you know, socially, and then here you 125 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: are challenging status quo. Check us through that little journey 126 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: with your little rapper, your little your little hype master 127 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: right there with you. Well, I think what it is 128 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: is that having the ability to be able to freestyle 129 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: with is something that not everyone is able to do 130 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: where you can literally just sit down and rhyme throughout life. 131 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: And when I say being able to rhyn through our lives, 132 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: that means just being able to walk through the house 133 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: and rund about the things that you see, or watching 134 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: certain television shows and being able to rhyme about those 135 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: or just being able to put words together, um so effortlessly, 136 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: effortlessly with rhyming ability. It just worked out pretty good. 137 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: So it allows me to be a great battle rapper 138 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: because it allowed me to be able to talk about 139 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: whatever somebody had on. Now, having a hype person is 140 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: the person that makes sure that the crowd comes along 141 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: to see what you're doing. Because you don't want to 142 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: have a great battle and it's only three of you there, 143 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, too may walk away and say you didn't win, 144 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 1: didn't you know, So you need to have a large 145 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: crowd if you're gonna do what you're doing, right. If 146 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna show up, you got to show up and 147 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: show out. And I come from a family of women 148 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: that have always been able to do that, from when 149 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: my mom and my aunts would enter into dance contests, 150 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: and they would enter into dance contests pretending like they 151 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: didn't practice all week. You know, they just show up 152 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: and make it seem like that's just something they came 153 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: up with, knowing that that something that they did while 154 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: they were in a club, or we're gonna go to 155 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: a barbecue, or we're gonna go here. So it was 156 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: always it's coming from a family that was willing to 157 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: show up and show out. So I was never afraid 158 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: of a crowd, which I think is like, um rule 159 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: number one is, if you want to be an entertainer, 160 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: you can't be afraid of a crowd, whether there for 161 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: you or against you, you cannot be afraid of a crowd. 162 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: And UM, I was able to do that. Now. You know, 163 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: when you talk about the journey when you first started 164 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: going out, and uh, tell us about the neighborhood you 165 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: grew up in. Give us that, give us the surroundings 166 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: of the environment that you grew up in Okay, Well, 167 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: I grew up in I grew up in Queen's Bridge 168 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: Public Housing, which is the largest housing project in the world. 169 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: And it was like a city. I grew up actually 170 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: in a city where a city inside of a city, 171 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: where you didn't have to go outside of the projects 172 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: for anything. You know, everything that you needed was their schools, 173 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: medical clinic, the stores, the sneaker stores, fish markets, fruit stands. 174 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Everything was inside of my pro including a pool and 175 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: a park. Now we've always had a multimillion dollar you 176 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: from our project, apartment windows, which is now the apartments 177 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: that people are paying millions of dollars for. But we 178 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: saw the value in that. So I never really knew 179 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: that I was in a in a hood, you know, 180 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: you know what. I just didn't seem like we had 181 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: our own train station. So all the things that everyone 182 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: inspired to have we had in the project. And it 183 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: was very family orientated. So it was a very large 184 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: family um housing project, which I think is the reason 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: why it was so successful and still standing because there 186 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: were families. They were people who were really related to 187 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: each other, you know, families with sixteen children, families with 188 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: ten children, families with eleven children. So because of that, 189 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, they literally took over the projects and so 190 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of problems where a lot 191 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: of other housing projects had that. But when you go 192 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: out to travel and you bring your neighbors with you, 193 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: you have thirty thousand neighbors, you know, when people stay 194 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: like okay, well, you know, you show up and you perform, 195 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: and they said, well, you know you're gonna have some 196 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: people from your neighborhood come. You gotta be like, no, 197 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: I can't. And they'd be like, well why, he was, like, 198 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: my whole neighborhood will fill this whole arena, Like I 199 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: can't invite my whole neighborhood. Where some people grew up 200 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: on a block, you know, you got ten people off 201 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: your block. You took ten thousand on one block. So 202 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: it was just different, you know, for that, but it 203 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: was a blessing, and it was one of the reasons 204 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: why I was able to walk with no fear going 205 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: into places because no matter where he went, there was 206 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: always somebody from Queensbridge there. And that is a true story. 207 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: Whether I was in Germany, it would be somebody who 208 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: went in the army from Queensbridge who went in the 209 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: army and they was in Germany showed up at the show. 210 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: You know, So it was just a blessing to be 211 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: born where I was born, especially to be born to 212 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: who I was born to, you know, having such a great, 213 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: strong mom, someone who was no nonsense alone played that role. Girl, 214 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: Oh you killed it. Then she killed and you even 215 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: think about it, is that, you know, I grew up 216 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: in the household where you were able to use for 217 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: fanny as an expression. You know, now you couldn't just 218 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: go around cursing people out right. She at the moment 219 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: arise where you need to say it. You know, I 220 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: remember the first time I heard my grandmother use foul language. 221 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: It came out of her mouth, so I guess I 222 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: want to say, like, it came out of her mouth 223 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: so smoothly. I thought she was singing to the lady. 224 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, I can't wait 225 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: to sing that song. I love it. I love you know. 226 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's go back to your mom. The Nia 227 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Long played the role. You know, she was a strong 228 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: lady in the in the movie series. You know, she 229 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: has a guy she's dated and he does her wrong 230 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: and and she's just a single mom, just trying to 231 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: give the best life for her daughters, and but she 232 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: kept stressing education. She kept saying, stay in school, stay 233 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: in school, stay in school. How did that message play 234 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: out in your life now, that message of staying in school, 235 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: get an education. It's all good, but get an education. 236 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: You better than this, right. Well, the thing about it 237 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: was that she understood the importance of having one because 238 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: coming from the rural South, there are a lot of 239 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: things that were not available to them that she felt 240 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: was available in the city. Like I went to school. 241 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: Even though we grew up together inside of Queen's Bridge 242 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: projects and where most children went to public school, which 243 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: is like PS one eleven, my mom chose to have 244 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: us become bust children, which means we were bust out 245 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: of the neighborhood into other schools. And though there was 246 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: our own personal difficulties with doing that, because you know, 247 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: when you're the only black child in all white school, 248 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, there are certain things that you deal with 249 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: on a daily basis that you wouldn't deal with if 250 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: you went to school with people in the neighborhood. But 251 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: my mom's strategy was that listen, you're gonna live with 252 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: these foods, You're gonna be with these folds. But you 253 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: know what, the world is a lot bigger than Queen's Bridge, 254 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: so I need you to start your education outside of there. 255 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: And so for me it was always very very important 256 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: and uh in wanting to pursue Julie understanding the importance 257 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: of it, and even now having a program, having a 258 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: nonprofit program with my husband called Mind over Matter where 259 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: we go into the schools to make sure these young 260 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: ladies stay in school from the ninth to the twelfth grade. 261 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: We follow them both academically and personally to make sure 262 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: that they understand the importance of school. And I tell 263 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: everyone that I said, listen, you know, I'm an advocate 264 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: for higher education because I know how important it is. 265 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: But I've also experienced the world of I like to say, 266 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: the mean world of smart people where they feel that, 267 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, you must have certain documentation in order to 268 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: even be heard. So I tell everyone, like, listen, self, 269 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: education is great, um, if you're able to pursue it. 270 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: A further academic education is great. You know, into into 271 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: the world of academia, bring your own home lessons with you, 272 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: and then you'll be able to be successful. Wow. Okay, 273 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: now you just laid it out there. Actually, you know, 274 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm not a guy who would put sentences together like that, 275 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, but you just articulated this and they just stopped. Though, Jill, 276 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: I don't like you. I don't like you, Rock say, 277 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't like you. You You know what I'm saying. You know, 278 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: you just just just laying out centers after centers at 279 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: the centers at the center, and then you just stopped. 280 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Or you're battling me. Are you ready for me to spit? 281 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: Because they ain't gonna apple, it ain't gonna happen. But 282 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: thank you. I like the way you put that. Maybe 283 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm always on I guess that is the battle wrapper 284 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: and me that allows me to uh articulate the way 285 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: I do. But I mean I've also been tapped on 286 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: the back until that, I was a pretty good artist. 287 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: Where you are you are, that's that's the gift, that's 288 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: that's the journey, and that's uh, you know, looking at 289 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: that you know represents Steven A Smith for that on 290 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: ESPN and I talked to my god, man, you got 291 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: a gift man, your ability to just to put a 292 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: centence after a centence after a centence, and they just 293 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: to see something and just to capture it and then 294 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: just give it back to a view or listen. That's 295 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: a gift. And so when I looked at you, when 296 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: I was watching the show and listening to your music 297 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: and watching the battles, and you just efforts, just just 298 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: taking all this information in. Now, no, listen to me. 299 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: My degrees in mathematics, so I know about numbers. I 300 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: know how you have to bring stuff in and you 301 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: just spit out the information. You you getting all this information, 302 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: you got noise, You've got people boo, and you've got 303 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: people cheering, You've got somebody screaming in your face, and 304 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: then you have to articulate all that information back to them. 305 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: That is a gift, young lady. Thank you, thank you, 306 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: But don't but don't do that to me. No more, 307 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: don't don't don't ratle off by fifteen sentences and didn't 308 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: stop on again, because you know I'm gonna confine you. 309 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find you. You're not gonna do me on 310 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: my show. 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She's also 359 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: hosts a live show or it's four to seven pm 360 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: on Monday through Friday of Sirius XM. It's called have 361 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: a Nice Day on Sirius XM satellite radio. Tell us 362 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: about that day, that show and how did it get started? Well, 363 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: actually I was able to get and it's so funny 364 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: because this is how it started. L l um l 365 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: cluj reached out and said, listen, you know, I want 366 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: to interview you about the movie. I'm gonna interview you 367 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: and Nia and I was like, okay, great, So I 368 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: went out to l A. When I went out to 369 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: l A, we started to an interview similar to this one, 370 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, at the end of 371 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: the interview, because I had him laughing, I had him 372 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: almost crying. We talked about past, present, future, every thing. 373 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: He said, you know what you need to be on radio. 374 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, you think so, and he was like, 375 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: I know so, and I'm gonna make it happen. And 376 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, you know, just just taking 377 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: it nonchalanes, no problem. You know, you got my number. 378 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: You let me know. And by the time I got home, 379 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: he had me come in for an air check. And 380 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: when I went in for an air check, the I 381 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: thought I had did something wrong. And the lady came 382 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: back to me and she was like, that is the 383 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: best air check I have ever heard. And I have 384 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: been in radio for over twenty years. I've never had 385 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: a person come in and ace it in just the 386 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: first try. She said, listen, if they don't hire you, 387 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: I got a whole bunch of other places that will. 388 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: So we started laughing about it, and then the next thing, 389 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, we started having a nice day. Oh my goodness. 390 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: How did the name come about? How did the name 391 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: come about? Well, it came from the fact that, you know, 392 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't hold any animosity. I'm a I'm a very 393 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: pleasant person when people meet me. Of course, we all 394 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: have our sides. That knew if I'm in a battle 395 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: that you know, I stopping you right there. You're so 396 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: funny to me because I could tell you you're sweet, 397 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: You're nice, you know, bless you. Uh God is good. 398 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: But boy, they get you in the right kitchen standing 399 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: next to the right knife, it's gonna comes. You're gonna 400 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: pick it up and throwing at them. You or something else, 401 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna bust. Wh That's the that's the beauty of 402 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: your personality. I you know, I'm gon tall. I got 403 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: six sisters and and and and just talking to you, 404 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, I could just see myself just laughing and 405 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: punch you on the shoulder, and you call a little fool, 406 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm calling you stupid and hugging each other and crying 407 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: at the same time. That's that's a that's a that's 408 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: a blessing. I'm just telling you that. To be able 409 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: to be that friendly but that engaging at the same time, 410 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's your gifts. That's one of your gifts. 411 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. You know it's because I love people, and 412 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: I know that there's gonna always be a time where 413 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: everyone is not gonna love you and everyone is not 414 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: gonna like you. But you don't have to give them 415 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: a reason to do that. You know that just leave 416 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: it on them to feel their own way. But I 417 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: don't add anything to it for that to be the case. 418 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: I just like for everyone to have a nice day. 419 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much going on in the world, 420 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: and I've had so many I've had so many sad days. 421 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: But the main thing is, you know, I know what 422 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: it is to want to have a nice day, because 423 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: I know what it is for people to try to 424 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: make you not have a nice day. Okay, cool. Now, 425 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the our interviews talking about that, 426 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: I said, well, did they add anything that they drop anything, Rashan, 427 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: You said, Rashan, look, uh, we kind of kind of 428 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: kind of tamed it down so you know, parents can 429 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: watch with their kids and get a learning lesson out 430 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: of this. Great great acting were received on Netflix. Now 431 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: Unsung calls you walk us through that whole process. Well, 432 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: I had already appeared. The reason how the way I 433 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: had got an Unsung with because I had appeared on 434 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: so many Unsung and had so many for everyone. You know, 435 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: they were like, hold on, did you have other son? 436 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: And I was like no. And then with the movie 437 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: and then with the radio station. You know, we weren't 438 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: even sure if I was Unsung or if I was 439 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: singing again right right? They said, listen, we think that 440 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: it's your time to have an Unsung, And I said 441 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: absolutely because I'm a huge fan of the show and 442 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: I've always thought that in order to get out of 443 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: certain information, because I love the approach that it took. 444 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: So I said, yeah, I'll definitely do it, and so 445 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: that's how we came up with me being able to 446 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: do my own Unsung. Now, with that being said, talk 447 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: about what big what role did you play and putting 448 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: it together? Do you have any saying it? Did you 449 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: have any producing powers in it? Or you just wanted 450 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: to make sure that they said we're gonna go in 451 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: this direction, you said, no, go in this direction. How 452 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: to what role did you playing their actual production or 453 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: put together the creative process. Well, for the creative process 454 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: of Unsung, they pretty much have their producers how they 455 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: would like for it to look. I think when people 456 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: say that they may be and I'm not sure if 457 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: I've ever heard anyone say this, but for people to 458 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: say that they may be unhappy with their Unsung, that 459 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: meant that they were unhappy with their life. That meant 460 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: that there were certain aspects of their life. Maybe they 461 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: chose not to reveal the Roxy and Schante stories. An 462 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: open book, I just tell everybody that you gotta make 463 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: sure you read something else before you read mine, because 464 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be the only book that you read, because 465 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some things in there that you need 466 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: to know about. And so I just went to them 467 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: with you know, it's an open heart, open mind, open spirit, 468 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: and was like, okay, come on, let's do it. And 469 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: they were like, well, let's talk about this. I said, okay, fine. 470 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: And if you notice, in my unsung I really allowed 471 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: others to tell the story and then gave my opinion 472 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: on their version of the story. I don't think many 473 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: other unsungs did that. I felt like it wasn't no 474 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: need for me to say, why did this for this one? Instead, 475 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: it may be that person who says what I did 476 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: from them, or I did say this person did that 477 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: to me, the one else said, look what happened to her? 478 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: And you know, because I stoo, I've always lived life. 479 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: I've never taken things and carried them with me. That's 480 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: why I'm able to travel, so, you know, travel so 481 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: much because I have every luggage. I can travel absolutely absolutely. 482 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: Here's the fun part about my interview with you and 483 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: uh and just the information you're giving everybody is that, 484 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: first of all, you're very honest. Look, I'm not over 485 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: here trying to sugarcoat this is this is my story. 486 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: I can tell you a darker story. I can tell 487 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: you this story whichever you want to sit down here, okay, 488 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: but what I'm not gonna do is brag about what 489 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: I've comelised. But that's where that's why you're a legend. See, 490 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: a legend can that when you're a legend, Rock sand see, 491 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: other people can tell their story about you. You go, yeah, 492 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: that's right. But that's how it really happened. Now, there 493 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: were two very prominent names that popped up in your movie, 494 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: Rock sand Rock said, uh Is Marquis, Yes and yes, 495 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: tell us about both. Those relationships started with Bis Markey. 496 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: My relationship with this this is my brother, beyond brother, 497 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: if you can even give someone that title. We've traveled together. 498 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: He was the first person to say to me, listen, 499 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: don't you know we're gonna be stars. He's gonna be 500 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: big stars. Yeah, you know, let's just get it and 501 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: do these battles. He was like, no, it's gonna be 502 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: bigger than this. You watch, and I told him, I said, well, listen, 503 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: my stage is your stage. So as with everyone that 504 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: was in the Juice crew, they all started off as 505 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: like my DJ first, but it wasn't like I wanted 506 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: them to be my DJ as seeing him as a 507 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: support and then oh, yeah, you're gonna be my DJ, 508 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: and it's no. I wanted them to be my DJ 509 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: so I could get them on the stage and then 510 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: I'd switched places with them during my show and let 511 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: them perform. And then I'm standing behind the turntables. I'm 512 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: not doing nothing, but I'm standing behind and making it 513 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: like I'm doing so this way they would be able 514 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: to have the same platform. I've never had a problem 515 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: with sharing my platform because anyone, you know, all I 516 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: say is that when you come on board, you come 517 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: on board and bring your best, you know, don't just 518 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: come up here just to do it. Because I never 519 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: wanted anybody to feel like, well, you know what, it's 520 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: just the rock sand chantey thing and not take it seriously. 521 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: And even to get to the point of nas you know, 522 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: I told now, I's like you you're great you know. 523 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: So now listen, you come back when you got everything together, 524 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: because why come out and do some little rhymes that 525 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: don't even represent you know, how knowledgeable you are, you 526 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: know how smart you are, how brilliant you are, how 527 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: intelligent you are. And so the next thing, you know, 528 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: he came back and he was nasty nas and how 529 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, awesome. Now you know it's it's you know, 530 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: you are a you know, like I said, in my life, 531 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm always paying it forward. I'm always uh step it 532 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: out of my comfort zone and telling people how great 533 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: they can be and pushing them forward. And and it's 534 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: paying back to me for me in my life right now. 535 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: And I was just doing it. And I tend to 536 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: believe that's part of your natural personality too. No matter 537 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: well you're doing good and bad in your life, I 538 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: feel you always have something good to say when you 539 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: to somebody who deserves to hear it or need to 540 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: hear it. Correct. Yes, absolutely, I am definitely a person 541 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: who will always point out the positive in people and 542 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: give them that push. I stop, I feed the homeless. Um. 543 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: If I'm going, I could be on my way going 544 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: to have a dinner, and if there's someone outside and 545 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: they said that they're hungry. I'll go inside, purchase them 546 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: and dinner, bring it outside to them before I even 547 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: sit down and get comfortable and have my own dinner, 548 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: because I know what it's like to to look at 549 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: those who have and you don't have and wish you had, 550 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: And then you say, well, you know what, when I 551 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: get in that position, I'm never gonna be selfish like them. 552 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm never going to be that way. And I stick 553 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: to that, and and that's that's the way I lived 554 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: my life to know that all the things that I 555 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: said when I was younger, all the things that I 556 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: said when I was in the streets, all the things 557 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: when I said when I was boosting the stores, when 558 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: I was by myself, that I made sure to be 559 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: able to once I was in a position to make 560 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: sure that everyone was good. And sometimes that's even to 561 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: a fault because you're so busy sharing and people are 562 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: so busy stealing that you don't even realize that that's 563 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: what's happening. Right now. Here's the interesting thing about you, 564 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: because in the movie, you know it ends with that 565 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: moment with os, but we all know that you pursued 566 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: educated with the college and pursued higher education. How did 567 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: they come out with did you pay for your your 568 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: college education? How was that? How is that funding alone 569 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: the way? And how many years to take you to 570 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: go through that process? Well, what it was was that 571 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: I started off as a great keynote speakers. I'm sure 572 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: that you can tell from how I speak now that 573 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: um I was wanted and a lot of universities to 574 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: come out and I would speak on the fact of 575 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: pursuing higher education. During that time, the record company was 576 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: supposed to pay for my my education and it got 577 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: to a point where they were no longer paying for it. 578 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: So anyone that has been in school or has went 579 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: through that, you know what it is to get that 580 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: dreadful call to the bursto's office when they tell you 581 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: that you know your school has not been paid for 582 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: up until this point, then you have then you have 583 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: to leave school. And as I was leaving, I remember 584 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: speaking with one of my professors and they were like, 585 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, you need to go and speak about this 586 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: out into the world. And so I became a keynote speaker. 587 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: Us the moniker of Dr Roxing and Chantay started there. Wow, 588 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: so you they were they were they were paying for 589 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: your education and it is just stopped? Yes, And did 590 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: you did you follow up on that? Why did they stop? 591 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: Or did you you just forget that. I'm just gonna 592 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: handle it myself exactly. And I was like, you know, 593 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: and there's certain things that you know, your single mom, 594 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: you're out here, you're trying to make things happen, and 595 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: you're a able to continue with it. So you pick 596 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: up whatever it is that you're able to do, and 597 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: you're able to pursue from it. But I do say 598 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: this much as I say to anyone that is listening, 599 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: that I definitely support everyone to go as far in 600 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: their education as possible. Higher education is a must. Having 601 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: a degree to a certain extent is what it does 602 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: is it allows and opens up doors for you. When 603 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: I get the chance to because now I have been 604 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: blessed so much to have so many things on my plate, 605 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: I would love to go back and pursue my education 606 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: because that's something that I've always wanted to do. Wow, 607 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, I'd say the same thing I tell people that, 608 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, when I came out of high school, I 609 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: wanted to be a forklift driver, and I became a 610 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: four flive driver and then I dropped the box on 611 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: the guy's hand and broke it and they fired me. 612 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: So that was the end of my forklift driving career. 613 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: And then I walked from campus and uh at the 614 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: University of Houston and saw some things that mostly the 615 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: nice looking lay needs and I went, that's that I 616 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: need to go to college. And college changed my life. 617 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: You know that. That's whatever drug me, whatever drags you 618 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: on campus, let it pull you, let it pull you, 619 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: let it pull you to that, to that and I 620 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: ain't in my education, that's what and it pulled me 621 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: on there. And uh seven years later my degree is 622 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: in mathematics, was in mathematics, and uh, I say it 623 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: is because one thing about away tell people about education. 624 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: They can't repull your degree. I can't. Nobody come and go, 625 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna take that off. There were no 626 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: they can't do that. That's that's the beauty of education, 627 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: my minders and sociology. And it changed my life. So 628 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: Roxanne Sante this uh this uh Sunday. Uh you're starting 629 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: and uh starting for the first time because you've always 630 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: been on that song. Finally is about you, it's your game. 631 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: Finally Finally, you know you should like post it to say, 632 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, people go in my own one. You know 633 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: this is about men and the family, about me. So 634 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: but your gifts are so so so amazed and you 635 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: you deserve the ability to speak, You deserve to have 636 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: your own radio show. But what I am join the 637 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: most about is that you have a balanced life. And 638 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: that's something I preach about on this show. Having that 639 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: balanced life. Talk to us about that. Oh. One thing 640 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: that you have to do is that in life you 641 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: must have balance. You also have to understand balance that 642 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have good days, You're gonna have bad days, 643 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: but you need to make sure that you don't let 644 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: your bad days overwhelm the possibility of you enjoying your 645 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: good days. For me, I have great balance. I have 646 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: I have a husband who enjoys the things that I enjoy. 647 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: We watch a lot of boxing and we go to 648 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: a lot of boxing matches. Um. We also know that 649 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: we are pillars in the community, so we do a 650 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: lot of giving back. We make sure we do that. 651 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: My children. You know, I have a boy and a girl, 652 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: and um, I'm able to spend enough time with both 653 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: of them for them to understand the balance between the two, 654 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: and um, the only thing I don't have this balance, 655 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be perfectly honest with you and the 656 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: listeners is my diet. But I'm damn sure working on that. Well, 657 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: where are my friend? You know, your your beauty, your 658 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: personality and uh, because I my wife screaming about that too, 659 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: So you're not the only one out there screaming about 660 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: I got issues. I got food issues, I got eating issues. 661 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: But more important, you know, your fluidity and your ability 662 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: to communicate is amazing. I could do opin. I could 663 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: just listen to you talk a lot, a lot, and 664 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: you should. You should probably do some storytellers, put some 665 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: audiobooks out there because you got it going on. Plus 666 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: you should be doing someone doing force over as well, 667 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: because you got you got skilled, you gotta you got 668 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: a blessing that everybody needs to hear. Common Comma can't 669 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: be doing them all. 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