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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to bed for Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serenette, and we are here with

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Speaker 2: part two with Jed. Thanks for tuning back in. We

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Speaker 2: have a lot more to talk about before we get

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Speaker 2: into all of the craziness from Afar. Are there any

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Speaker 2: other details you want people to know about your relationship

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Speaker 2: with Devin, anything, any red flags that you want to

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Speaker 2: call out that you experienced, or just any conversations you

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Speaker 2: guys had.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, so I want to add to paint this picture.

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Speaker 3: I basically like, so, I've been saying he'd go missing

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Speaker 3: for some days and some hours and like not give

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Speaker 3: me an answer and whatever. But then at one point

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Speaker 3: we just started sharing your location with each other safety

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Speaker 3: reasons and also like if you're at a bar or whatever,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be texting you, you know, like

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Speaker 3: this is a normal thing. Yeah, he later unshared his

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Speaker 3: location with me, and I just I never thought anything

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Speaker 3: of it. I never asked anything about it. But I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I think it's a weird thing to unshare

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Speaker 3: your location with somebody, and he did it in a

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Speaker 3: very sly way in which you can go and find

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Speaker 3: your friends and just stop sharing the location, but then

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Speaker 3: it still says that you're sharing your location with somebody,

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Speaker 3: but every time you go to see it's like it

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Speaker 1: So h so this is rough. Oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: even know that was You're You're also in a position.

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Speaker 1: I really feel for you in this position because you're

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Speaker 1: in like a spot where you like, you could start

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Speaker 1: feeling like the crazy one in all this and you're like,

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Speaker 1: what what is happening? But yeah, yeah, rough, But let's

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Speaker 1: get into AFR. We'll kick it off real quick because

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Speaker 1: people aren't really here for Marcus, but we will talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about Marcus. Marcus Marcus was your was

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Speaker 1: your runner up? You did fall in love with him, right,

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Speaker 1: How was it seeing him for the first time?

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Speaker 3: It was great seeing him for the first time. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I had been just worried about him and like I

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Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that he was okay. So it

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Speaker 3: was good to see a friendly face again. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I did I love him, like I loved

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Speaker 3: him as a person, like he is such a beautiful

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Speaker 3: story and he is someone who I resonate with in

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Speaker 3: terms of just wanting to be loved so deeply and

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Speaker 3: and having just like issues with with not feeling loved,

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Speaker 3: Like I was resonated with him so much with that, So, uh,

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Speaker 3: we just bonded a lot on that. And I think

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Speaker 3: like I also was chasing something, you know, I was

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Speaker 3: trying to like break this habit that I thought that

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Speaker 3: I had known about. And I thought it was different

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Speaker 3: because Marcus is such a good guy, Like he's not

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Speaker 3: someone that like led me on like the other guys

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Speaker 3: I've had in my past, But I think I have

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Speaker 3: love for him as a person and just who he is,

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Speaker 3: Like he's such a great guy. But yeah, like was

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Speaker 3: I really really in love with him?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, are you comfortable? Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like it was the correct decision letting him.

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Speaker 3: Go absolutely all the time, Like I truly don't see

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Speaker 3: the season ending any other way. Every guy was so

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Speaker 3: special and unique in their own way. But at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, like Devin was my strongest connection

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Speaker 3: and I saw a future with him. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: get married, Like I wanted to have kids with this,

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Speaker 3: Like I don't regret that, because I do. I did

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Speaker 3: feel that, and I did think that at one.

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Speaker 1: Point, you know, Okay, so this is when things get

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Speaker 1: wild were you aware that you were going to be

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Speaker 1: sitting there with Devin watching your engagement.

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Speaker 3: I was aware that that was going to happen. I

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Speaker 3: didn't anticipate being as emotional as I was, And I

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Speaker 3: also I wanted Devin to watch that, like he had

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Speaker 3: been saying all this time, like I just don't feel

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Speaker 3: it anymore. I felt pressure to get engaged. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: watch you very free, willingly get engaged to me and

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Speaker 3: gets out on the knee and promise me the world.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted you to see it because I'm like,

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Speaker 3: are you even listening to the things you're saying on

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Speaker 3: the show? And yeah, I didn't know I was going

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Speaker 3: to break down like that, And yeah.

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Speaker 2: What other than making sure that Devin, because I guess

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Speaker 2: that is the only way you could be like one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent sure that he watched it. Was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to sit on this couch with you and watch

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Speaker 2: you watch yourself declare your love for me. What were

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Speaker 2: your other goals going into AFR?

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Speaker 3: My goal was to be able to speak words on stage. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I honestly, like, I knew it was just going to

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Speaker 3: be a rough day, and I was so mad. I

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Speaker 3: it and we were like, we want to see each

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Speaker 3: other before AFAR. We're going to have a conversation just

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Speaker 3: the two of us, and whatever happens happened, and we

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Speaker 3: be normal, or or just tell our story and we

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Speaker 3: can like part amicably. But I don't want to be

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Speaker 3: doing this on live TV. And I don't feel like

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like that conversation is going to be

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Speaker 3: for us because it's not. It's for the world. And

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Speaker 3: what I would have wanted is a little bit of

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Speaker 3: But he didn't. Like he led me to believe that

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Speaker 3: he wanted to do that for me, and he never did.

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Speaker 3: So I was pissed going into AFR. I was like,

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Speaker 3: this man doesn't care about me at all. He sits

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Speaker 3: he loved me like he's the love was real where wow,

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Speaker 3: because you don't give a shit about how I'm feeling.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you caught this. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: did because you were sitting there. But but right before

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Speaker 1: you hear Devin say what is going on here?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, you saying that a lot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he just seemed really confused and surprised and like,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand where this is coming from.

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Speaker 3: Was kind of his energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then Jesse kind of teed him up to like, okay,

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Speaker 1: then speak, and he never really gave an answer. What

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Speaker 1: did he What do you think he meant when he

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Speaker 1: said what is? What was? Why? Did he seem like

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Speaker 3: I don't know why he thought he was. He was shocked,

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Speaker 3: But did you think was gonna happen? He'd been boasting

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Speaker 3: me for the past week he went to New York

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Speaker 3: with this squirrel like what, like, what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Like I had expressed him every single feeling that I

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Speaker 3: was like, what did you do that for to hurt me?

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Speaker 3: Like I We've been talking, so I don't know what

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Speaker 3: he was confused about. And yeah, I remember him just

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Speaker 3: you like the weirdest look, and I'm like, why are

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Speaker 3: you acting like I'm doing something unreasonable other than like

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Speaker 3: unhashing our relationship, which is what we're here to do.

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Speaker 3: Like I So, I don't know what he was thinking

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Speaker 2: Do you think because you guys had talked, because it

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Speaker 2: where things could be amicable and you could go out

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Speaker 2: there and be like, hey, look this sucks, but we're okay,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna part ways. Do you think he just expected

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Speaker 2: it to go like that even though you guys hadn't talked.

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Speaker 3: No, Because so after New York, So the week before

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Speaker 3: he went to New York, that was when we were

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Speaker 3: like we're gonna like work through this and like whatever

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Speaker 3: happens happens, but like let's talk and like let's see

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Speaker 3: where this leads us. Right, That's where I was feeling

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Speaker 3: very very hopeful. Then he went to New York, ghosted

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Speaker 3: next week, I was like, let's get on the phone,

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Speaker 3: you know what we're gonna do here, and truthfully, I

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Speaker 3: was still hopeful. I was like, maybe I can talk

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Speaker 3: some senseence to this boy and we can be engaged

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Speaker 3: and be happy or whatever. And he blew up on

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Speaker 3: me at this point, he like was texting me crazy

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Speaker 3: I wanted to see you, like he at this point,

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Speaker 3: the Devin that I knew texting me on the phone

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Speaker 3: I felt manipulated. I felt like you were just telling

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Speaker 3: me those things to like get by for the week,

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Speaker 3: and now that we're here, and like AFR is coming up,

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Speaker 3: you're announcing that you never meant those things. So things

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Speaker 3: were messy. Things things got messy. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: Yeh, what was what was all the Maria nonsense of

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Speaker 1: it all? Like what what? Because? What what was the

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Speaker 3: I mean I didn't when I had said that at AFAR,

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Speaker 3: I just didn't know how much it would pick up.

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Speaker 3: Like I just yes, and it hurt. It hurt me

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Speaker 3: that he did that, that he went and followed her

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Speaker 3: the day after, essentially, because why would you do that?

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Speaker 3: Like that to me is telling me that you broke

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Speaker 3: up with me. Now you're following a girl who was

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Speaker 3: rumored to have been in the running for the Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so did you ever even love me?

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Speaker 3: Did you actually want to date her or somebody else?

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Speaker 3: Like that's what kissed me off about it. And it

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Speaker 3: had nothing to do with Maria and him, Like I know,

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Speaker 3: I've known that nothing happened there, Okay. I never intended

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Speaker 3: to make it seem like any No. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: he did and what his intentions were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's it's good to note like

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Speaker 2: that was about him, not about Maria. It was about

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Speaker 2: his actions hitting a sore spot that he was fully

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Speaker 2: aware existed. Exactly did you watch Maria's statement at all?

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Speaker 3: I did? I? Well, I didn't watch. I had heard

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Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, Yeah, how did it make you feel?

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Speaker 3: It was nice? It was nice, like we support each

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Speaker 3: nice statement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So then I mean this kind of all

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Speaker 1: wraps it. Probably you probably couldn't have planned it to

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Speaker 1: go worse. They're just like, what the.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, there's no way that that could have gone.

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Speaker 1: Well no, I'm saying like that, like your season is

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Speaker 1: kind of like ah, like this this, this was not

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Speaker 1: the way I wanted it to go. You have to

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Speaker 1: lean into the chaos of what your life is right now,

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Speaker 1: and it's a little chaotic and messy, but that's also

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Speaker 1: like fun, Like not too many people get to do this,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, And here's the thing, like everything, it's a

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Speaker 3: blessing in disguise what had happened. And as upset as

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Speaker 3: it can be about it and was about it and

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Speaker 3: still dam sometimes about it, I know that I'm so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then what's what's all this? Uh all? Jonathan?

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I love him.

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Speaker 3: To come out of this with a really, really good

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Speaker 3: Rachel. Rachel has a very special place in my heart.

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Speaker 3: We went to dinner a couple of days before a

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Speaker 1: No, Devin's not to please now, seeing that you are

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Speaker 2: To keep them anonymous?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how I like Samm does he reached out? Why?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you were gonna say. I just wasn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is nice that the guys are reaching

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, It feels really good to have the guys

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, how uh, how's your family? Because they your

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I will say we see a lot of protective

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he handled himself so so well, and I was

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. He's somebody who, like all my friends

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Speaker 2: No, there's times where I'm upset where I'm like, nobody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's let's I'm just gonna paint this

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Speaker 3: No, no, I'm telling you it's not happening.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I'm so serious. First of all, I'm

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Speaker 1: So absolutely, Okay, Well, well the show is going to

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Speaker 3: No, No, I know it's not happening, and I would

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god. Bossom is the first

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Speaker 2: I feel like once you're over the hump of the

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Speaker 3: Undred percent. Like it's not it's not a linear process healing,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you deserve it after the crazy few months you've had.

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Speaker 3: Well, I learned so much about my own and why

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Speaker 1: I like that. I think that's good. What would be

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Speaker 3: Advice? But I don't know, you don't know how to

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Speaker 1: I mean, no, that's fine, that's okay.

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Speaker 3: You know with this situation, I truth, we don't know.

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Speaker 2: No, But you know what, you couldn't have avoided this situation,

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Speaker 2: I don't think. And I think it's good that you

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Speaker 2: can recognize that, because how could you have known.

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Speaker 1: I think you did it the right way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you fully leaned in it. Just it didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay, Like in the long run, it's going

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Speaker 1: to work out, like it's already, it's already panning out.

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Speaker 2: Are you happy? Do you feel like this that Dancing

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Speaker 2: with the Stars has kind of closed your journey on

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Speaker 2: a positive note, at least a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it definitely closed my journey a positive note because

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Speaker 3: now I'm doing something for myself something that I've always

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Speaker 3: wanted to do, and I'm working on myself and learning

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Speaker 3: something for myself. So it feels really good to come

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Speaker 3: out of this stronger as a person and to be

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Speaker 3: working towards something that's gonna make me feel happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good, Okay, last question, So throughout this season you have

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Speaker 2: paired every week with a tails of song, which has

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Speaker 2: been so fun to follow along. What is your tailor,

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Speaker 2: swift song or era for moving forward into this next

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Speaker 2: stage of your life?

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Speaker 3: This is an excellent, excellent question. I'm in an undefined

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Speaker 3: era of totally swift, but no, truthfully, like it's still

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Speaker 3: like I made the last song for the episode, like

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Speaker 3: what like I can do it with broken heart, and truthfully,

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Speaker 3: like I'm still healing, like I'm still mending, and like

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Speaker 3: I'm happy that I get to have these moments in

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Speaker 3: these interviews and all these shows where I can like

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Speaker 3: be happy, but like I'm deeply like still hurt from

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Speaker 3: the situation. But I'm pushing through and I'm still just

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Speaker 3: going to be the best version of myself because I

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Speaker 3: have to do that for myself. But yeah, I am

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Speaker 3: like hurting sometimes and that's okay, But as soon as

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Speaker 3: like I if I just keep believing that I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be happy, then I'm going to be happy and

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Speaker 3: it's all going to work out.

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 1: Gotta feel pain the fieled joy. Okay, well wow, that's.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful way to follow up her really beautiful words with

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Speaker 2: that cheesy quote.

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Speaker 1: Jed, thank you so much for joining us on Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: I love being here, we love having you rooting for

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Speaker 2: you on dancing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Okay, I need tips, Joe. What am I

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Speaker 3: supposed to be doing here?

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Speaker 1: Just have fun? Lean into it and in halfy it's

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Speaker 1: so but it's so don't let the day of yeah

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Speaker 1: destroy you because it's such a stress it's very stressful.

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Speaker 1: Like it's very stressful. You're gonna be anxious, like really

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Speaker 1: just kind of like lean into the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: a stage. You're there to perform, and just do your

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Speaker 1: best and enjoy it and have fun, because like there

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Speaker 1: were so many like I was really bad, but there

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Speaker 1: were so many moments where I'm like, I wish I

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Speaker 1: would have just had a little more fun and got

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Speaker 1: out of my own head because it's overall, it's such

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Speaker 1: a great experience and you only get to do it

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Speaker 1: once and you look back and you're like, that was

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Speaker 1: so much fun. I wish I enjoyed it a little more,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what do you mean? You were?

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Speaker 1: I mean, but yeah, that's because people kept voting for me,

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Speaker 1: or or honestly or just take a shadow whiskey. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I also did that.

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Speaker 3: So okay, I'll be taking a shot at tequila before

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Speaker 3: my dances clock.

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Speaker 1: There you go, John, Thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 1: That's your happy hour. We really appreciate it so much.

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Speaker 3: I loved I loved being so I'll come back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come back soon.

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Speaker 1: You've been a phenomenal lead and it's been so much

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Speaker 1: fun chatting with you throughout the season. And for all

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Speaker 1: our listeners, make sure you guys tune into Jones' premiere

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Speaker 1: of The Golden Bachelorette on Wednesday, September eighteenth. We'll have

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Speaker 1: recaps and exclusive interviews way before you know it. I'm

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Speaker 1: the way, and don't forget to subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Bye,