1 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: You know what we have to do. We have to 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: be honest with ourselves about what we want out of 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: all this. What's the motivation here? I'll tell you mine. 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: What's your motivation here? What's everyone's motivation in the college 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: football room? Right now? I think some may not be 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: as they appear. This is the Late Kick Extra podcast. 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: I'll do the intro in a little while. I've got 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: too much to say right now. This thing was supposed 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: to be out on Tuesday, and then a bunch of 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: stuff happened on Tuesday in the world of college football, 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: so I'm releasing it on Wednesday. Look, we got to 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: be honest with what we want. Probably call this disclosure 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: and may need to do it more often. I love 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: college football. I get to talk about it and do 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: a show about it all year. I work for a 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 1: company that appreciates that fact. They don't make me talk 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: about any other sport. I would quit if they tried 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: to make me talk about other sports. I'm solely focused 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: on college football. I grew up on I'm just like 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: you guys. I grew up on it. I fantasized about 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: being able to afford to go to games. Then I 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: could afford to go to some games, never many games, 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: and didn't get the great seats like management would have necessarily. 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: But I love the sport. I appreciate the tradition, I 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: appreciate the pageantry. I think there is a thing or 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: a set of things that makes college football great that 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: don't necessarily exist in any other sport, whether pro or collegiate. 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't see that special mixture that makes college football 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: really wonderful in my mind anywhere else. So my opinion 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: is always going to be slanted towards hoping the things 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: and decisions that are made are being made with the 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: best interest of college football in mind, over and above 33 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: any one person or any one group of people, and 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: that includes coaches and that includes players. If sometimes a 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: negative thing has to happen to you for the greater 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: good of college football, chances are I'm going to support 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: that thing. With very few exceptions, I'm going to support 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: that thing. Now. Not everyone's going to agree with that, 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: of course you're not. That's why this is called disclosure. 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm giving you my point of view on this. I'm 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: telling you the angle I'm coming at it from. You 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: can come at it from your angle, but candidly knowing 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: our audience and knowing college football fans in general like 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: I do. I think most of you feel the way 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: I feel, with minor differences of opinion here and there, 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: as we talk about all the time on this show. 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: I think most of you feel that way. So if 48 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: you were living your normal life yesterday, don't really know 49 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: why I'm teeing this up the way I am. There's 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff happening right now, but one thing 51 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: in particular that happened was Nick Saban and a group 52 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: of other people went up to Capitol Hill yesterday and 53 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: they were having a committee hearing on Nio and just 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the state of college football in general is really what 55 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: it turned into. And Nick Saban had a lot to say. 56 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: You've probably heard the clips by now, but if you didn't, 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: it was basically Nick Saban saying what I came to 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: know college football as what I've loved about college football 59 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: has totally changed. Everything I knew about college football has 60 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: totally changed now. The recruiting process, or the player retention 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: process is not about relationships. It's not about education, it's 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: not about all the fundamental pillars of college athletics. It's 63 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: just about how much money can I make and that's 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: where a lot of people stopped listening. Apparently. Nick Saban 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: went on to talk repeatedly about how he supports players 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: being able to make money. He supported nil in the 67 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: classical sense. He supported revenue sharing, which doesn't even exist 68 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: right now. Irrelevant because a lot of people long since 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: stopped listening, because no one really listens to these things. 70 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: They look for a SoundBite, they look for a little 71 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: snapshot that forwards an idea they already have pre existing 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: in their minds, And that's the way of the world 73 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: in general. It just happens to have migrated over here 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: to college football. So what I found myself thinking yesterday 75 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: as the evening wore on and it takes continued to 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: roll in, was I really wish we would have sent 77 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: a homeless person to Capitol Hill yesterday. And that may 78 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: sound a little crude, but I mean what I say, 79 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: because as far as I could tell, nine tenths of 80 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: the people who were offering the most pushback on Nick 81 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Saban's philosophies and takes yesterday weren't offering the pushback on 82 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: his philosophies or takes. They just had a problem that 83 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: Nick Saban was the one saying it. They can't get 84 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: over that net worth in the probable nine figure range 85 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: by now. They can't get over the fact that the 86 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: guy was earning ten and eleven and twelve million dollars 87 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: a year on the back end of his career, because 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: people who earn that kind of money in their minds 89 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: cannot credibly present any dissenting viewpoint on the state of 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: nil and the state of college athletics and state of 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: pay for play in general. It just doesn't matter. All 92 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna see is a flood of tweets talking about 93 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: how much the guy earns and how irrelevant that makes 94 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: his voice. And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, we 95 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: seriously would have been better off picking someone up off 96 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: the street putting talking points in his or her hands. 97 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: It's the age old message versus messenger situation. I mean, 98 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: you learn this in kindergarten, at least we did. The 99 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: right message is the right message. Truth is truth, regardless 100 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: of which mouth it comes out of. Your mortal enemy, 101 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: Satan himself could show up at your doorstep and if 102 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: he says, don't touch the stovetop because it's really hot 103 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: and it's going to burn you, you'd be wise to 104 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: call the cops and get him off your front porch, 105 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: but don't touch the stovetop, because he was actually right 106 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: about that. I know we have swinging philosophies out there 107 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: in varying takes on AI, but I almost wish we 108 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: would have gotten an AI bot to speak for Nick 109 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Saban yesterday. Then we could have just focused on the 110 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: substance and it would have cut down about ninety percent 111 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: of the reaction. Look, most people don't really have any 112 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: answers for this. Most people really are just seeking thirty 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: eight retweets. We're surrounded by an army full of folks 114 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: who have screamed and complained about college athletics in the 115 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: state of college athletics, and someone's got to do something. 116 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: And as soon as anyone tries to do something, instead 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: of listening and instead of offering constructive feedback and trying 118 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: to advance a conversation, they just bashed the person in 119 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: hopes of getting forty three retweets. That's more valuable at 120 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: the end of the day. So look, here's the bottom line. 121 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Saban yesterday said a lot of stuff that was dead 122 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: on the money. I don't care if he's worth eighty 123 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: billion dollars. A lot of what he said is debt 124 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: on the money. College athletics should be different than pro sports. 125 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: It should be. Now I'm speaking personally, this is my 126 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: view on this. In a perfect world, college athletics should 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: be different. We shouldn't have an open free market in 128 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: college athletics. I believe it's best when it is tied 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: and woven into an educational structure. I do believe it's 130 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: best when the classical term student athlete really exists. Now 131 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: it is a bastardized term, and the NCAA has fumbled 132 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: the bag nine ways from Sunday, and I don't have 133 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: very much respect for that organization, as anyone who listens 134 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: to me knows, and the way they use that term 135 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: is garbage. But in my real world, in my perfect version, 136 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: student athlete exists, and it exists in the way it's 137 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: supposed to exist. Again in my perfect world, in my 138 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: perfect world, well, these college football players are not employees. 139 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: Yet they participate in a revenue sharing program and that 140 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: would benefit them a whole lot more than the alternative. 141 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I think right now, there are some I'm not going 142 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: to call them bad actors necessarily, but people I don't 143 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: align with per se who have driven by college football, 144 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: and they're offering a lot of takes on this thing 145 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: right now. It has nothing to do with the game 146 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: on the field, and therefore I know a lot of 147 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: you ignore it, but I don't because I'm fascinated by 148 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: the business mechanisms of college football in our industry as well. 149 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: And I've noticed that there are a lot of people 150 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: shouting about employment versus non employment and labor unions and whatnot. 151 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: And all you want to know is what time the 152 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: Texas A and m Texas game is this fall? Hey, 153 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: that's fine, but these folks are shouting from the rooftops 154 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: right now about this sort of thing and about what's 155 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: best for the player, what's best for the employee as 156 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: they should be defined. And here's what's really happening. It's 157 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: the same thing that happened in twenty twenty. I want 158 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: you to be careful with this. I learned in twenty twenty. 159 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: What happened in twenty twenty was the world shutdown, have 160 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: a global pandemic descend upon us, And for a long 161 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: time it looked like we didn't have college football that year. 162 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: And you noticed, as I did, a lot of voices 163 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: were all of a sudden, really loud in the college 164 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: football space and the sports space in general. And they 165 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: were shouting louder than anyone else, and they had takes 166 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: on everything, and they knew what the protocols and procedures 167 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: should be. And you had your opinion and I had mine, 168 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: but boy, they had theirs, and they were really loud. 169 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: And you haven't seen them in years, have you. There 170 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: were voices who were very, very loud in the sports 171 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: media space in twenty twenty that you haven't heard from 172 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: in the better part of three years. The reason is 173 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: because their cause subsided. Therefore they had no purpose being 174 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: here anymore. They were never about sports. They were never 175 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: about college football or NBA. They just pretended to be 176 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: because it suited what their agenda was at the moment. 177 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: And I don't care what your viewpoint or my viewpoint 178 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: was on it. I don't care what your politics or 179 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: my politics were, But I am here doing a college 180 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: football podcast. And I'm telling you there were some frauds 181 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: that entered the space in twenty twenty and they tried 182 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: to force their way of thinking on you, and they 183 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: used various media networks to do so. And now they're gone, 184 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: and it's happening again, guys, is my whole point. So 185 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: be very careful because these are powerful voices, and they're 186 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: very persuasive voices, and they're going to come in and 187 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: they're going to try and convince you that college athletics 188 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: would be best served to go this direction over here 189 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: or that direction over there, And a lot of it's 190 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: going to have to do with players being employees or 191 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: what status should they have, and should we unionize this 192 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: and unionize that. And I'm going to pause one more 193 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: time and tell you I don't particularly care what your 194 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: opinion or my opinion is on it. It's all political, okay, 195 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: So it just devolves into arguing about nothingness. I don't care, 196 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: Here's all I'm trying to tell you. Be careful not 197 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: to let those folks claiming to care about athletics be 198 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: the ones who shape your opinion, shape your own opinion. 199 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: And if you want to listen to them as a 200 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: reference point, that's cool, but don't allow them to come in, 201 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: grab the mic, reshape fundamentally college athletics, and then drop 202 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: the mic and leave. Even three years later, you saying wow, 203 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: where did Sally and where did John go. I don't 204 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: even hear from them anymore. Remember how influential they were 205 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: in changing this sport back in the day. Yeah, that 206 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: can happen if you're not careful, and so in my 207 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: perfect world. The reason I'm saying that is I don't 208 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: think the employment model is the best course of action 209 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: for the sport or for the players. I believe the 210 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: players have it as good as they could possibly have 211 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: it right now, because right now there are no rules. 212 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: You're almost in a true Wild West situation where they 213 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: could never make more money more readily than they can 214 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: right now. That's not gonna last. Everyone knows that. If 215 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: you seriously think major college athletics is just gonna let 216 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: that go unfettered, you're crazy. They're gonna do something one 217 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: way or the other to reign it. In. Your best bet, 218 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: both as a sport, for fans and as players and coaches, 219 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: is get the conferences to take care of it. You're 220 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: in the SEC, you're in the Big Ten, you're in 221 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: the ACC Big twelve, you've got media rights deals. Cut 222 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: the players in on it. Save An advocated for this yesterday. 223 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: In fact, most coaches I know advocate for that. They're 224 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: longing for that day where they don't have to be 225 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: talking about how much a left tackle is gonna earn 226 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: if he plays for South Carolina. That left tackle knows 227 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: how much he's gonna earn because South Carolina is in 228 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: the SEC and this is going to be their cut 229 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: of the television rights revenue. That's the way it should 230 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: be in the perfect world. And in exchange for that 231 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: share of revenue, which is going to be pretty substantial, 232 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: by the way, you sign off on staying at a 233 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: college for a couple of years, and you sign off 234 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: on not moving around as freely as you can right now, 235 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: and you get guardrails. You just get little bumpers on 236 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: the bowling lanes. Put back in the sport where you 237 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: don't have guys playing for four teams in six or 238 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: seven years. It's not too much to ask. And my 239 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: point there is you can either be the person that 240 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: pushes back on that and says Nope, Nope, that can't happen, Nope, 241 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: genies out of the bottle, toothpastes out of the two 242 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: and offer nothing, or you can be constructive and offer 243 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: a solution if you don't think that works. But I 244 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: circle back to what I started with You've got to 245 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: define what your purpose is, what's your motivation. If my 246 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: motivation was getting players every dollar they can get, everything else, 247 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: be damned, I wouldn't care. I would just push recklessly 248 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: for every law to be tailored around a middle linebacker 249 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: at Purdue gaining maximum revenue and maximum earnings potential cost 250 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: be damned to the sport. Now, that could wreck college 251 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: football in ways. I never intended that could do away 252 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: with a softball team at North Dakota State, and I 253 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: never intended it to happen because of the collateral damage done, 254 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: or maybe not. But my point is I wouldn't care 255 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: because my motivation is solely looking out for the players. Well, 256 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: that's not my sole motivation. My motivation is what puts 257 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: college football as a whole in the best position five 258 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: or ten years from now. And five or ten years 259 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: from now, I think what puts college football in the 260 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: best position is injecting stability back into the sport while 261 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: also putting more money in the player's pockets. Both of 262 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: those things can happen if you get the bad actors 263 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: out of the room on both sides of the equation, 264 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: by the way, and you have common sense there in 265 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: the middle ground. You can get some things done. What 266 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: does that sound like? By the way, you can get 267 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: some things done. But I'll tell you the worst part. 268 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: The worst part is a lot of people who disagree 269 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: with me on this are going to have valid comebacks 270 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: that I don't have an answer for, because they're right. 271 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: It's very unfortunate that adults in the room put the 272 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: biggest flaw in the argument a long time ago, because 273 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: right now the pushback on this is, well, coaching churn 274 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: has been out of control for a long time. Why 275 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: in the world should the players not be free to 276 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: go wherever they want to because the coaches have now? 277 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: Let me again, stop and tell you. I know on 278 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: ground level, coaches are different than players. They just are. 279 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: But from a fifty thousand foot point of view, they're 280 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: right when they say, dude, coaches are leaving left and right. 281 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: There is ungodly amount of coaching churn in this industry 282 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: every year. Those coaches don't care about the stuff you're 283 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: talking about. They don't care about loyalty, they don't care 284 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: about maintaining stability. Coaching salaries and buyouts have been out 285 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: of control for years and years and years. You're right 286 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: about that. I got no pushback on it. You are 287 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: right about that. I'm actually with you on that particular argument. 288 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: They aren't the same. Coaches and players aren't the same. 289 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: But the coaching industry not caring a bit about the 290 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: principles they claim should matter for players, it does illegitimize 291 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: their voice. Conferences chasing every penny they can at the 292 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: expense of decades of tradition also makes their voice illegitimate. 293 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: You're right about that, and I got no pushback on it. 294 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: I still think reality and truth is reality and truth. 295 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: I still think my argument, independent of all that is 296 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: what's best for the future of the sport. But if 297 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: your pushback is Josh, I disagree because if coach has 298 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: got to do it, and if conference has got to 299 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: do it, then you shouldn't be talking about policing it 300 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: when players do it. If that's your pushback, I can't 301 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: disagree with the logic. I certainly can't. It's unfortunate because 302 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: that means adults in the room that were very shortsighted 303 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: for too long actively participated in throwing a wet blanket 304 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: on what was to be the best argument about the 305 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: future of the sport down the road. What am I 306 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: supposed to say, Am I supposed to pretend that coaching 307 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: salaries and buyouts and movement hasn't been out of control? 308 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: Of course it has. Am I supposed to point to 309 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: the conference that's turned down money for the betterment of 310 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: the sport overall? Which conference is that? I don't know 311 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: which one it is. They don't exist. All the rest 312 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: of them are doing it. But you know what, I think, 313 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: I've been on record on this particular show for many 314 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: years as saying those things also aren't in the best 315 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: interest of college football. So it's not like we turned 316 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: a blind eye to it. Maybe some did. We didn't. 317 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: I didn't. Not. Here we've talked about how insane and 318 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: how lopsided the negotiation setting is between agents and college 319 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: administrators as it relates to these ridiculous contracts. For years, 320 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: we talked about how insanely greedy it's been for conferences 321 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: to move and expand and contract other conferences for the 322 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: sake of the almighty dollar. For years. We've talked about 323 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: it here that was never in the best interest of 324 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: college football either. And what did we get told, Well, 325 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: we got told ratings are up, so it must be working, 326 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, because ratings in the here and now are 327 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: an absolute reflection that positive decisions are being made in 328 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: the here and now. Of course, that's being said sarcastically 329 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: because it's one of the most ignorant and misinformed takes 330 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: you could have. Any discernible media metric would show you 331 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: that audience patterns on any platform, legacy or digital otherwise 332 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: are well downstream of the decisions that get made. So, 333 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: in conclusion, yes, you can be a multi millionaire, multi 334 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: decade successful head coach who has profited off of college 335 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: football and can still have logical and well reasoned takes 336 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: on anil. Yes, I think there's some bad actors in 337 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: the room that are pushing the conversation in a direction 338 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: for something other than the betterment of college football overall. Yes, 339 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: I myself am biased because I myself want what's best 340 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: for college football overall. Almost nobody out there is arguing 341 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: that players shouldn't be able to make money. It's total fallacy. 342 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: It was the beginning of so many arguments I saw 343 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: in Rebuttal yesterday. These coaches don't want players to make 344 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: any money while they make all the money. It's totally false, 345 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: completely false. It's been false for a long time. Most 346 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: of them are advocating for players to have a more 347 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: streamline earnings structure than they have right now. And it 348 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: just so happens that the model people like Nick Saban 349 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: and myself and many other coaches are advocating for a 350 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: true revenue sharing structure would be better for far more 351 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: players than it is right now. So I don't know 352 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: if yesterday really changed anything, but it sure did get 353 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people talking. Let's talk about some actual 354 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: college football. Buckeye HQ from Columbus, Ohio hit me and said, 355 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: why hasn't the targeting rule been addressed yet in college football? 356 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: Can we all agree it needs to be fixed? Well, 357 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: I think you and I can agree that it needs 358 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: to be fixed. I don't think it will. You know, 359 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm still dumbfounded, for instance, that we have one rule 360 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: for targeting that we don't have a basically a basketball 361 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: system flagrant one. You know, I make incidental contact over 362 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: the middle because it was just unavoidable, because that's football 363 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: flagrant too. I headhunted. Well, we don't discern that right now. 364 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a situation where the game's happening 365 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: in one hundred miles an hour and you're going over 366 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: the middle and you dip your head, and I'm a 367 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: safe and I make contact with you, and you moved 368 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: your body after I already initiated contact, meaning I can't 369 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: control what I do from that point through the rest 370 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: of the split second this takes. And because I touched 371 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: your head with my head, not only do I get 372 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: hit with targeting, I'm out of the game, just like that, 373 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: with no ill will, with no dirty intent whatsoever. We 374 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: don't have the ability to discern that right now. Officials 375 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: cannot discern that right now. If it meets the letter 376 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: of the law of targeting, you're done and that's it. 377 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: It's crazy that we don't have a better targeting rule 378 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: than that. But here's the problem. And I've not talked 379 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: about this much, but I do talk about it with 380 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: people behind the scenes. There are too many legal eyes 381 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: on college football now, legal eyes meaning ambulance chasing lawyers, 382 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: and they understand there's a lot of money to be 383 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: made in class action lawsuits against the sport of football. 384 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: The NCUBA included by the way, you want to know 385 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: why the NCAA is still around. The NCAA handles a 386 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: lot of the liability aspects of college football that conferences 387 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: and individual universities don't want a shoulder. It takes tens 388 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars in liability to defend this sport 389 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: every year. Just a little side note there, so they 390 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: can't be seen as going backwards. It doesn't even matter 391 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: if you and I think it would be what's in 392 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: the best interest of the game. They can't be seen 393 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: as going backwards on any kind of rule related to 394 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: head injuries. So they're between a rock and a hard 395 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: place right now. They know the rules are ridiculous and 396 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: they don't make much sense sometimes. But my advice, I 397 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: know you're going to get emotional when you see an 398 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: egregious targeting foul called I do too, and I will 399 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: continue to let my emotions control me in those moments. 400 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: I will continue to tweet. Targeting is out of control. 401 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Targeting is broken in college football. But my advice to 402 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: you is don't expect it to change anytime soon, because 403 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it is. Nor is this. Don't even 404 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: tell me you saw it coming. I didn't see it 405 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: coming until ten seconds ago. I didn't know I was 406 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: doing the ad toss until ten seconds ago. It's tired 407 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: of people saying that the AD toss has been predictable, 408 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: because quite frankly, you can criticize my college football playoff takes, 409 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: you can criticize my game predictions, but when you criticize 410 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: my AD toss ability, that is the slap in the 411 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: face that I'm not prepared to just absorb. Next up, 412 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: Jackson from Meridianville, Alabama said, what would be your perfect 413 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: TV contract for the college football Playoff? I'm gonna spend 414 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: like thirty seconds on this. I don't really have a 415 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: perfect contract other than I'd like every network to have 416 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: a piece of it. I would love it to be 417 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: like the NFL. You know how rarely I say that. 418 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: You know how rarely I say I'd love college to 419 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: be like the NFL. But if you had every network 420 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: with a piece of the college football Playoff, to me, 421 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: you have every network with viable skin in the college 422 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: football game. And I know they do already, cause most 423 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: of the networks have college football contracts where they show 424 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: various leagues or NBC has Notre Dame. But I wish 425 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: they all had a piece of the playoff pie as well. 426 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: I just don't like any network controlling that vast majority 427 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: of the college football apparatus. It would never happen in 428 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I wish it didn't happen to college football. 429 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: But let's hit Tyler next. He's also in Ohio, Sidney, 430 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: Ohio this time of year. Beautiful. Tyler said, Hey, I'm 431 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: wondering why everyone assumes Will Howard will start for Ohio 432 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: State at quarterback when Bama and Ole Miss brought in 433 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: transfers that were beat out by existing players. The Notre 434 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: Dame transfer retired from football to play lacrosse after the season. Yeah, 435 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: so obviously Tyler's there talking about Tyler Butner. Last year. 436 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: Remember after spring Bama brought Tyler Butner in via the 437 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: transfer portal and there was a lot of freak out 438 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: that ty Simpson and Jalen Milroe must not be good enough. Well, 439 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: they went to overtime of a playoff game with the 440 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: same guy listed as the starter who was the listed 441 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: starter in spring, So it was a freak out about nothing, 442 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: well maybe not totally nothing else. Milroe did get benched 443 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: two games end of the season, but yeah, it turned 444 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: out it wasn't as big a five alarm crisis as 445 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: they made it out to be. And the point is 446 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: there was a brief time where folks thought, hey, since 447 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: Tyler Buckner got brought in, he's not being brought in 448 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: to ride the bench. Remember how many times you heard 449 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: that Will he rode the bench? And then Ole Miss 450 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: brought in Spencer Sanders from Oklahoma State. Spencer Sanders started 451 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: five years, six years, seven years. He's not being brought 452 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: in to ride the bench. Spencer Sanders never started it 453 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: down for old Miss Jackson Dart just wire to wire 454 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: the starter. So what Tyler is saying is how come 455 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: just because Will Howard's coming in there to Ohio State 456 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: from Kansas State, people think he's automatically the starter. Well, Tyler, 457 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: it's cause he's probably going to be the starter. These 458 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: are not similar situations. I don't think they're similar in 459 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: that someone's transferring in, but they're dissimilar in that Will 460 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Howard's a better quarterback than anyone that Ohio State has 461 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: on their roster right now. Notice I didn't say more 462 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: talented Julian Sayan or Aaron Nolan. In time, may will 463 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: prove out to be the more talented options. But they're 464 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: not ready yet because they just got to college five 465 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: minutes ago. So I think Will Howard will be the 466 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: starter this year. I don't think it's similar to what 467 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: Bama and ole Miss did last year. Deep ball CFB 468 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: asked is Quinn Ewers the best quarterback in the SEC 469 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: from Sandy Spring, Maryland? No, I think Carson Beck is 470 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the SEC. Let's go with Marvin 471 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: from Peoria, Illinois. Are you going to be in the 472 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: EA Sports College football game? Wouldn't that be crazy? Marvin? 473 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be amazing? Anyway? We move on Hunter from Sugarhill, 474 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Georgia to you. What makes a great college football uniform? 475 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: What are your favorite college football uniforms? What would the 476 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: Paate State uniform look like? Now I'm about to disappoint 477 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: every single one of you because I got some things 478 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: that I think that I believe the majority agrees with. 479 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: There are other things I think where you know, it's 480 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: probably going to be about a fifty to fifty split. 481 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: But this thing, the uniform thing, I know that about 482 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five percent of you agree with me 483 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: and the super majority disagrees. And that's just the way 484 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: it's got to be. I love the basic uniforms. I 485 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: love Penn State's uniform. I love Bama's uniform. I love 486 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: the uniforms that look the same since before color TV 487 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: was invented, as they do today with minor alterations. I 488 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: love it. Now here's what's crazy about that opinion. I 489 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: don't hate Oregon's uniform selection. So you've got on one hand, 490 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: I love the the eight Crayon box, but then someone 491 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: brings the one hundred and twenty eight Crayola Super Pack 492 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: in and I say, yeah, I could get with that too. 493 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: It's just the thirty two and the sixty four packs 494 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't like so much. Does that make sense? Absolutely not. 495 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: Is it hypocritical? Certainly it is, But that's the way 496 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: I feel about it. Steve from Millersburg, Ohio. Dude, it's 497 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: an Ohio podcast today. Congratulations everyone. Steve said, force yourself 498 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: to provide one or two positives about realignment, expanded playoffs, 499 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: or other changes happening. Certainly, it's not that hard. You're 500 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna have home playoff games in an expanded playoff. It's 501 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: going to be utterly insane to see LSU play on 502 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: the road at Michigan. It's going to be crazy. To 503 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: see Georgia go to Oregon would be absolutely insane. I've 504 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: never denied that. You know, My take, Steve has been 505 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: that there is no circumstance that's totally negative. There are 506 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: circumstances that maybe thirty seventy positive negative, and that's a 507 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: bad situation in my opinion. But if you just want 508 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: to talk about the thirty percent, man like that's how 509 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 1: I feel about where we're headed with the playoff, there 510 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: would be some incredible moments. In fact, you can zoom 511 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: it out a little bit. The playoff itself will be amazing. 512 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: A twelve team playoff, which we have for like fifteen 513 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: more seconds, will be amazing as a product, as a 514 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: standalone product, no different than March Madness. The NCAA tournament 515 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 1: is almost upon us. It's going to be an amazing 516 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: standalone product. It always is. My argument's never been otherwise. 517 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: People come at me and say, how can you deny 518 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs gonna be amazing? Well, I don't think it's 519 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. Why can't you see that this works 520 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: so well for college basketball? Look how great the NCAA 521 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: tournament is. It does work. If that's your criteria, the 522 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: end of the season being great and that alone being great, 523 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: it does work. I just always ask those folks name 524 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: me the three best college basketball games you watched in 525 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: December this year or January or February. They never have 526 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: an answer unless they're die hard basketball fans, and my 527 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: point there should be obvious. But they look at me 528 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: like I'm crazy, and I say, yeah, the playoff being 529 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: awesome is great, but what does it do in the meantime? 530 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: What does it take greatness away from in order to 531 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: inflate itself? That's always been my takeaway. We're not doing 532 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: the argument again today because that's its own podcast, but 533 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: that's always been my takeaway. So yeah, Steve, it's gonna 534 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: be an awesome playoff. It's gonna be awesome to see 535 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: those road playoff games home CA Sampus playoff games that 536 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: will be incredible must be twenty one or over and 537 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: present in select states. 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What are the 561 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: biggest blowouts you've seen in person? And how did they 562 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: end up being blowouts? It was so terrible, Cad, Oh, 563 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: it was bad. Let's see Kansas State Oklahoma State twoenty 564 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: twenty two. The final score in this game was forty 565 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: eight to nothing. It was my first and only trip 566 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: to Kansas State until next week. Hint, hint, hint. It 567 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: was forty eight to nothing. I thought it was going 568 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: to be the most competitive game we saw all year. 569 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: The line was under a field goal. Kansas State's down 570 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: their starting quarterback, mind you, So if anything, I think 571 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: Man Gundhy's about to come in here and pull one off. 572 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: They get blanked. It was thirty five to nothing. At 573 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: halftime Kansas State led. I mean I yawned. I think 574 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: I yawned at the end of the first quarter. It 575 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: was that bad already. And then afterwards, Mike Gundy went 576 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: to his press conference and he admitted that they had 577 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: drastically altered their practice style that week. Basically, what I 578 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: think he was saying was I held healthy players out 579 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: of practice this week because we're so thin. And I 580 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: think he's talking about lineman and you could tell by 581 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: the way he was talking about it that he knew 582 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: it was radical. He knew he had made a big mistake. 583 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: He knew he did not have his team prepared to play, 584 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: and it showed because Kansas State boat raced him now 585 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: forty eight to nothing. That's the biggest blowout that I've seen, unless, 586 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: of course, you want to count the literal National Championship 587 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Game where Georgia beat TCU by a wider margin. I mean, 588 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: the most Sarah McLaughlin special in history. The Splattering of 589 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: the Millennium was that National Championship Game, but this one 590 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: was a close second. Austin next from Bluffington, Indiana. Hey, 591 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: my questions a little off topic, but as someone who 592 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: enjoys your wrestling references, I'm curious who's on your Mount 593 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: Rushmore of pro wrestling. Give me Hulk Hogan, give me 594 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: Steve Austin, give me Undertaker, and give me Sean Michaels. 595 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: That means Flair and Hogan are off. Yes, I know 596 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: that I've only got room for four. Those are my four, 597 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: and deal with it. I wouldn't argue with you, though, 598 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: if you tried to put Hogan on there, because pound 599 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: for pound that's one A or one B is the 600 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: biggest superstar in the history of the business. I define 601 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: my rushmore a little bit different. That's why Hogan wouldn't 602 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: be on there. But he's standing right there in the 603 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: on deck circle, and he's a former baseball player. To 604 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: hear him tell it. So Ollswell AJ is from I 605 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: do not believe this. He's from Trenton, Ohio. Oh Late 606 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: kick AJ said which team or story or year should 607 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: they make a college football movie about next. I've been 608 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: on record as saying two thousand and seven is long 609 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: overdue to have its own movie made about it. And 610 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: I've got an idea. So I don't just think it 611 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: should be a documentary, although I'd watch that. What I 612 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: think they should do is they should take the BCS 613 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: people just basically take evil, nameless, faceless corporate college football 614 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: bureaucratic types and have them be the antagonist in the 615 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: movie the whole time. And they're hoping to get a 616 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: mega matchup in their championship game at the end of 617 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 1: the year, right, because they want to maximize the revenue 618 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: and the TV ratings and all that. All Right, So 619 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: they're watching as the week's unfold and there's chaos and 620 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: carnage everywhere, and every week looks like a fifteen car 621 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: pile up, and you get closer and closer to the 622 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: championship game, and they get into the last weekend of 623 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: the season, and it's like that scene in Waterboy where 624 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: Vicky Valancourt told Lynn Swan exactly what the final score 625 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: is going to be and he realizes it's going to 626 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: be the case and he looks over at her and 627 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: she just nods at him. That's the look they have. 628 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: They have the Lynn Swan look on their faces as 629 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: they realize they could be headed for a Missouri versus 630 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 1: West Virginia national championship game. And then all of a sudden, 631 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: the unthinkable happens, and then the unthinkable happens again, and 632 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: they end up with Ohio State versus LSU. So really 633 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: kind of the bad guys in the movie end up winning. 634 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: But it would still make a really good movie. But 635 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: if you just want to do the documentary, that's fine too, Okay, people, 636 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: I had to re record this whole thing. 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