WEBVTT - A Revelation about that Infamous Burger Post It Note!

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kristin Davis and I want to know are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone, Today is Part three with the wonderful, brilliant Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Key. Thanks for joining us, little segue. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about The Comeback for a second because I

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<v Speaker 1>love it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course, whenever I watch anything else that you do,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the thing, obviously, right, but the Comeback is

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<v Speaker 1>always like so close to home in so many ways, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's an actress and she's our age basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the first episode the first season was right

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<v Speaker 1>after the end of our show, and I've told you

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<v Speaker 1>many times I was just laying on like I was crying.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a great time for me to be

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<v Speaker 1>watching to come Back. Though I really wanted to watch it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was just so sad, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was forty or forty one or whatever it was, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so like, and we didn't know what was happening. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know if we were going to get our film

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<v Speaker 1>made or what the hell was going to happen, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just painful, you know, And because Valerie

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<v Speaker 1>is always down and trying everything in her beautiful, sweet

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<v Speaker 1>way to get things going and trying to make the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the situation that she's put in. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking rate and I love this current one and I

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<v Speaker 1>laugh out loud so many times. But also like, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you name her show that?

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<v Speaker 2>How's that? Uh? Huh? Her name is? Her show is

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<v Speaker 2>named How's that? Because Lisa and I after we did

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<v Speaker 2>season two, there was never like a mandate to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just kind of like everybody thought we did

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<v Speaker 2>a good job and that was that. HBO was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of happy with it. But every now and then over

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<v Speaker 2>the last eleven years, ten years, Lisa and I would

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<v Speaker 2>have lon Jouey Lewis Valerie doing we maybe there's something

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<v Speaker 2>new come back for it. We never really came up

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<v Speaker 2>with an idea that was a big enough machine to

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<v Speaker 2>come back. We had funny things like Chicago, which we

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<v Speaker 2>put in the first episode Vallery stars in Chicago, like

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<v Speaker 2>because all.

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<v Speaker 1>The fucking funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, but it was like we knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was like right, but it wasn't. You can't super satisfying

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<v Speaker 2>five years ago. We kept thinking it's not enough. So

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<v Speaker 2>then one day we were talking and Lisa said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>too bad. Valerie wasn't around during the SAG writers strike, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because she would have been hilarious. And then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, the door opened in my mind and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>why can't we go back for a minute, Why can't

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<v Speaker 2>we start then? Because it's so funny, Why don't we

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<v Speaker 2>start then? And they'll think about this sag Writer's strike

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<v Speaker 2>was when it ended. The thing, The sentence that stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind was we're going to have to renegotiate

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<v Speaker 2>in three years because of Ai. And as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>that's what everybody was saying, like it's a happy ending,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're still going to negotiate in three years because

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<v Speaker 2>of Ai, and the minute that popped into my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, And then three years later we have We're

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<v Speaker 2>at Ai and Valeries cast in the first multicam written

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<v Speaker 2>about Ai, and Lisa went click, and then we started

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it would be about bed and breakfast, like

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<v Speaker 2>a typical sitcom, but we thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be all about like she's a luddite and she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>understand technology. And Lisa within two minutes did a monologue

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<v Speaker 2>as the proprietress and she went, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing everything I can, but I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do any better than that. How's that? And

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<v Speaker 2>it just came right out of her mouth, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>how's that. That's the sentence, that's the phrase, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>name of the catchphrase. That's also the sitcom. So it

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<v Speaker 2>just presented itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't remind you at all of and just like that,

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<v Speaker 1>how's that?

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<v Speaker 2>And then just like that, uh huh no, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not because it has the word that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just they're just interestingly similar, kind of like dot

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<v Speaker 1>dot dot question you know what I'm saying. They're phrases.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and just like that is a dot dot dot

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<v Speaker 2>to infinity, right, and this is a question mark in

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<v Speaker 2>an exclamation. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I said that to a writer. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>have my trouble now.

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<v Speaker 2>I just letting you know that. And just like that

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<v Speaker 2>eludes to who something happened? Yes, this is just like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a comedy word. It's so I don't connect them

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<v Speaker 2>except the word A J, A J, L T and

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<v Speaker 2>H T. When I would see it, I oh that,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I like the word that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you do, because every reason I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait, is he talking about us? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many times then, like what because obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>have so many situations in there, like you have Benito

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<v Speaker 1>on Benny Well, Benito is my god a dream, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but that whole scene, I'm dying that whole scene, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm having similar situations in my current life. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting because Valerie's world is usually about

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<v Speaker 2>people diminishing her and she's got to fight for her

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<v Speaker 2>thing our world and just like that and Sex and

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<v Speaker 2>the City never felt like the is any mandate to

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<v Speaker 2>diminish any of you. So the costumer clearly to me,

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<v Speaker 2>would never happen on one of our shows, would happen

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<v Speaker 2>on every other show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh definitely, you know, I mean I'm having Kristian life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, because that is our world. You are

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<v Speaker 1>diminished and told things by young people that are wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you realize that in season one, when she

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<v Speaker 2>was forty, they made her an aunt in a funny,

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<v Speaker 2>awful tracksuit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, you're done now.

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<v Speaker 2>That part is a similar in the brand. Yes women

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<v Speaker 2>saying yes, stop seeing us like we're done, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, totally, totally, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the thing that I love the most about

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<v Speaker 2>what we did with that show was saying, stop seeing

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<v Speaker 2>us the way you think we should be, and start

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the way we are and can be. And that

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<v Speaker 2>not only goes for the way the characters evolved specifically

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<v Speaker 2>from Miranda to Miranda, but also the way that you

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<v Speaker 2>were allowed to look and dress and I guess you're

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<v Speaker 2>not allowed to be fifty eight fifty nine and go

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<v Speaker 2>to a bodega in a tool skirt without meaning the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the world. And it's all really about how

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<v Speaker 2>both the shows are about how women are fighting the

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<v Speaker 2>way they are being told to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yees seen yes or not seen? You know, fighting you exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Or danccene right right, I mean the Great Shocker Oan

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<v Speaker 2>just like that to me was how there seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>be you go away, I know, like we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to see you now, I know. And that happened on

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<v Speaker 2>the second movie. Right before the second movie, there was

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<v Speaker 2>an article in New York magazine where there were the

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<v Speaker 2>four of you from Sex and the City a promo

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<v Speaker 2>four like from back in the day, and they had

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<v Speaker 2>masking tape over.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, I remember. That was horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, what are you talking about? You haven't seen them.

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<v Speaker 2>That was actually the first movie. You haven't seen them

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<v Speaker 2>in four years and they can't speak. Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And that even it happened so much that I put

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<v Speaker 2>it in the second movie when Carrie has tape over

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<v Speaker 2>amount in the review of her book, right, But like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are they told to go away?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are they told to me?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like in mainstream media, told without apology to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the part that bugs me, Like you should be

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed to say that. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how dare you tell a whole demographic of people to

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<v Speaker 1>go away and not speak? What is that? We know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's audacious that it's misogyny on their.

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<v Speaker 2>Society st right, society, still society.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I'm not worked out about just like that,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know, because you're like, why we beget

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<v Speaker 1>when we began, you were telling me, Yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Worked out about it. No, there's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>to have an unrest about. Yes, When I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>press for the comeback in Europe, somebody said to me, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a grace. I'm sure you're hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that this goes better than your last attempt at coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>And I said what are you talking about? They said.

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<v Speaker 2>The reaction to him just like that, And you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I said, call me in four years.

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<v Speaker 1>It is going to I saw that quote pulled out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually just recently heard something Lena Dunham said

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<v Speaker 2>in her press tour about significant shows are never about

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<v Speaker 2>when they're launched, They're about where they are in ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, do they stay in the consciousness? And

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that and just like that was incredibly well

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<v Speaker 2>made and anarchy again, which is what I'm so happy about. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>because when we started Sex in the City, it was

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<v Speaker 2>you're thirty four, right, you should have a husband, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that simple?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't, there's something wrong with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then just like that was your fifty something you

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<v Speaker 2>should have this figured out by now, right, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't, there's something wrong with right.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you should just be quiet, just be quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>mind your own business over there in the corner or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Just quietly, right, go into the background. Right, don't be old,

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<v Speaker 2>right and bright, right and confused, right and alive, all

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<v Speaker 2>the things. Don't be people we've never seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Before, right, that really upset them.

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<v Speaker 2>Rue McClanahan on the Golden girls was I think fifty

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<v Speaker 2>and they had already retired and worried Florida, right, nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>no future, I mean, and then there are all those

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<v Speaker 2>women on it, just like that, violently fighting to be

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<v Speaker 2>themselves still and it was quite a expression. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think people like their stories left alone. It's the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing I'm interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, It's never entered my mind that they would

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<v Speaker 1>want their stories left alone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing that made Sex and the City

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<v Speaker 2>work is the evolution of the characters. And I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>interested in the evolution of characters. And it was a

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bold move to come back again with

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<v Speaker 2>Valerie Cherish eleven years later. Yes, but I'm only interested

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<v Speaker 2>in how people are growing or changing or not growing

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<v Speaker 2>or not changing with the stories around that are and

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<v Speaker 2>with you three so beloved. I thought that'll be interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they were like, oh, okay, but maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want them to change that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I think too. And I mean, I don't really know,

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<v Speaker 1>because as you know, I'm still processing. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>think that some of it has to do with our

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<v Speaker 1>bigger cultural moment of upheaval, you know, like maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't in a total cultural chaos, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>had more room for us to grow and change.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean, if the world was calmer, the characters could

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<v Speaker 2>have had chaos maybe, but chaos on chaos. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a little we want ice cream, we don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>Us right like like or I don't know a syllabus,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I wouldn't, you know, But yes, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot for them to try to take out on I

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<v Speaker 1>just saw something the other day that seemed really smart

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<v Speaker 1>that was about how you know the success of the

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<v Speaker 1>Pit and the Pit the characters are obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>beautifully written and deep and you know whatnot, but they

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<v Speaker 1>also are very good at their jobs and they care

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<v Speaker 1>about the right things. So you're seeing the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not seeing the world on your screen. Because when

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<v Speaker 1>I first watched The Pit, I couldn't go to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, because I have like medical anxiety, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh my god, the anxiety. But then I

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<v Speaker 1>did want to watch it. I did find myself drawn

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<v Speaker 1>to watch it and try to try to get to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to watch something lighter after and then go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep. But you know that people want to see

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<v Speaker 1>competence and solidness. They're not being super eloquent right now

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<v Speaker 1>in what they're seeing, because the world is not that right,

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<v Speaker 1>but we we are challenging our brand is.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that everything on the pit which I

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<v Speaker 2>find so interesting is the new people I think no

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<v Speaker 2>is amazing, Yes, and the more people you haven't seen before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but all those characters that are making mistakes and putting

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong catheter catheter.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right right, that's good, f right right, right, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. That's a really good point too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point. I think all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is super interesting to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love all the humanity and the pit. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's really interesting, how flawed the character, especially know

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<v Speaker 2>as character is, and all the new faces that's what

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<v Speaker 2>TV used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, it's beautiful. It's beautiful to watch. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like we did that too, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the first show and the second show, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. But I think my other reason that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still you know, first of all, as I've said

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<v Speaker 1>many times now, so forever, you know, I still just

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<v Speaker 1>want to work together forever. Yeah, because everything else is

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<v Speaker 1>like like less.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah. Here's the thing. Yes, I got to a point

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<v Speaker 2>on Sex and the City where my story person that

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<v Speaker 2>lives inside my head. Yeah, said, we're done for now.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you told me this and it happened, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And this felt like that, and ah, I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>respect everybody so much that I thought we're done for now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I respect that. I just didn't necessarily expect it

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<v Speaker 1>in that second that had happened, or that moment. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't shocked. You Remember when you called me. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, I felt the vibes. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel the vibes from you. I felt the vibes

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<v Speaker 1>from the world. And I don't mean the criticism. I

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<v Speaker 1>just mean the the strangeness. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>put it right, But like, we really just take you

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<v Speaker 1>for granted that you are like plugged into this you know,

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<v Speaker 1>vision board of the ethers or whatever it is, because

0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you always really are, which reminds me I need to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you something from the season specifically. But like, I

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<v Speaker 1>fully respect that you are the font, right, you are

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<v Speaker 1>the Oh look, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean that's a very grand statement to say.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happily every now and then visited by an idea

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<v Speaker 2>that I is very clear. Yeah, yeah, And when we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing the end of season one of it, just

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<v Speaker 2>like that, we were standing, we were doing the blocking

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<v Speaker 2>of Carrie moving into that house, and I knew season season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I saw the lights.

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<v Speaker 2>In your boom. I know what season three is. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I waited it didn't come. It's not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>the vision board. I am the executor of a vision.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is I mean, you're the receiver of

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<v Speaker 1>the vision.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, or else. I have my sense of story

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<v Speaker 2>taste right, and I could work for you with you forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, Yes, me too, and that's why and good, good,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I want here to say. So, big question,

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<v Speaker 1>big question, with some debate. Remember I love New York, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>how wait, I heart New York. I heart New York.

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<v Speaker 1>How Okay. So there's this a picture of Willie and

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Jessica on the streets of New York wearing an

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<v Speaker 1>outfit that is not ever in the show. And Sir

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica told us it was a scene that was iHeart

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<v Speaker 1>New York but got cut, but that they had filmed it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we filmed and wrapped before nine to eleven, because

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we I wrapped on like the ninth or

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<v Speaker 1>something like this, that a photo shoot on the tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>was flying on the eleventh, Sarah was starting rehearsal on

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<v Speaker 1>the eleventh, like we had just wrapped, right, But then

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, bless you, for some reason, they held episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>They cut our season into two that year. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember this?

0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:28.960
<v Speaker 2>The season was cut into six and then the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what we do know for sure is that

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<v Speaker 1>we had filmed you had written, and we had filmed

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart New York before nine to eleven, correct, correct, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>So anyone who thinks out there that we were somehow

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<v Speaker 1>responding and had gone back to film, no, you had

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of prescient unless.

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<v Speaker 2>The iHeart New York is the one where the autumnly faults, Yes,

0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:54.600
<v Speaker 2>and Miranda's water breaks, Yes, and she talks about voiceover. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I could have changed the voiceover, got it. I could

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<v Speaker 2>have said, seasons change as cities. I remember that, got it,

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<v Speaker 2>got it, got it, So I could have addressed it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it, got it, got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Got It's really where we addressed it was anchors away

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the next season, which was week.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's the pregnancy season.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was we got to go downtown and spend

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<v Speaker 2>some well earned money because of how bad Damn Town was.

0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:29.320
<v Speaker 2>But seasons change, as do cities. I think I probably

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<v Speaker 2>did got it redo a voiceover, got it, got to

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<v Speaker 2>incorporate something, and we did take the World Trade Towers

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<v Speaker 2>out of the opening credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, which I thought was the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And a couple of scenes actually, when Samantha and Richard

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<v Speaker 2>are on the roof of his swim, the whole background

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<v Speaker 2>was the World Trade Towers and we had quite a

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<v Speaker 2>debate about should we take them out or leave them

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<v Speaker 2>in or take them out of leave them in, But

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<v Speaker 2>it was after they had gone, so it made the

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<v Speaker 2>show invalid.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree in stressing in the moment right, very stressful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, it's still very stressful. When you see them

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<v Speaker 2>in things, you go, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I agree, totally, totally. Okay, that was super helpful

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<v Speaker 1>because I had also had some weird idea. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was that when we did go back to work,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, will you guys go downtown right to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets and you know, show that we're functioning.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't remember when that was. And because there was

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<v Speaker 1>this picture of Willia and Sarah in a scene that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, and Sarah said, oh, yeah, we filmed

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<v Speaker 1>a scene that was just didn't make it in the EPISODECU.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously we had to cut things like not based on

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<v Speaker 1>anything important, just time. You don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The only scene that I ever remember seeing pictures

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<v Speaker 2>of that was not in anything was there was a Willie.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a Stanford Carrey scene in the first movie

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<v Speaker 2>where she's in a very very very pretty pink dress.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is in a bright suit a summer see.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was scene right around talking about BITSI

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<v Speaker 2>or something. I don't got it, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? So it's just cut just for time, not

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<v Speaker 1>not Maybe that's what it is. This is the it's

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful PIC's west what I think that's from? Got it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>This picture is what has been irking me, like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't place it? Yeah, okay, got it, got it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a summer scene. He's in a gray suit. She's

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<v Speaker 2>in a pink dress with like a little islet lace.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so top it's a thing. Can you pull

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<v Speaker 1>the picture up in can you find it? Got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's been the thing that's been just like, what

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<v Speaker 1>was that? What was that or either one of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. That was because when when we

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Sarah, she said, oh, I do think there

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<v Speaker 1>was a scene cut, but maybe she's remembering also the

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<v Speaker 1>movie you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I don't remember ever putting a Stanford

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<v Speaker 2>scene on the ground except for the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It was always so

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<v Speaker 2>much fun fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny and fun and very those were like targeted, like

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<v Speaker 1>you really wrote those with such intense yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Did you see

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<v Speaker 1>this sale on Julian's.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. It is so trippy and bizarre. So

0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.639
<v Speaker 1>you can get like like all of our props and

0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.679
<v Speaker 1>stuff from and just like that, you can go and

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<v Speaker 1>and and and buy them at this auction called Julian's.

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.120
<v Speaker 1>And there's like all the letters that Stanford wrote Carrie

0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:28.560
<v Speaker 1>are there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's my handwriting.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, that's your handwriting.

0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Every handwriting on the show is mine. Everyone the Burger

0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 2>posted is the Miranda list of pros and cons for

0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Steve is my handwriting got Carrie some of Carrie's And

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<v Speaker 2>every now and then I would say to Sarah, Jessica,

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<v Speaker 2>write this right, because she's left handed and has a

0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 2>weird signature, right, but yeah, that is definitely my handwriting

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<v Speaker 2>in Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>Harry's chapters of her book are there. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>All that's good ship, Yes, that is good. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>writing that and going like this will be fun to write.

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<v Speaker 2>And then now it's available.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it's available if you go on there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would I wanted if it was seen by

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Jessica that she didn't feel like she was a

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<v Speaker 2>bad writer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's nice, you know, so at least the.

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<v Speaker 2>First three pages where she would flip there would be

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<v Speaker 2>then thick looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh they just duplicated. Okay, I don't think anyone. I

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think the sale is closed or whatever song you

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:30.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll be hearing more, got it?

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.480
<v Speaker 2>The first two pages or key pages, this pros and

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<v Speaker 2>the rest is just every I'll work and no play

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:41.840
<v Speaker 2>makes jacket from the shining. It's just it's just repeated, repeated, repeated,

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:43.240
<v Speaker 2>repeated prop.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's super funny.

0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's some legitimate writing by me. Wow wow, asked

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Kerrie writing a book, Maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Craig should go on Julian's and did.

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<v Speaker 2>Craig actually said to me a couple of times, Page

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<v Speaker 2>what about this auction? Like I always feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel the same way like I don't know if.

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I want to see any of our magic. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>down to a table.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I mean they have Myrtle's dog bed, Richard

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Bird's dog bed, and the little Taco dog toy. I

0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:16.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of want that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I have in my office? I have

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Charlotte's white opaque drinking glasses in.

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Every bedside or from the kitchen from.

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Sex and the City kitchen, And every time I get

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<v Speaker 2>a drink of water, I have that white opaque.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have like six of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a good one. Good call. Charlotte lamp. Have

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte's pink lamp from the Very very.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic and in and should have at one point. Carrie

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 2>has a very tiny silver shamrock necklace sauce with a

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.920
<v Speaker 2>little diamond chip in it. And Pat Field and Sarah

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Jessica gave me a duplicate of that. It's such a

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<v Speaker 2>delicate that I wore it, Baby Chain. I wore it

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 2>from the minute they gave it to me Season four,

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:11.640
<v Speaker 2>all the way through and up till the movies, and

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I actually took it off when the first movie wasn't

0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 2>going to go. Oh, because we thought it was going

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 2>to go, and then it wasn't going to go. Couldn't

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.360
<v Speaker 2>make the deal. Couldn't make the deal. And that night

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 2>it was three. The script was ridiculously long, it was

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 2>three hundred pages. I had a big fire. I had

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 2>a big fireplace in La outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember what we did the ceremony on New.

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<v Speaker 2>Year's Eve, and I said, all right, I have to

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 2>let this go. And I took the three hundred page

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 2>script and I sat in front of the fire and

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<v Speaker 2>I started throwing pages and like I was in an

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Ibsen play. And then and then it was so hot.

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like I started throwing in thirty at a time.

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 2>And I was still there, my knees were and I

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:51.239
<v Speaker 2>went upstairs and I took off the chain ceremonially, and

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I put it away, never to be thought of again.

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>And the next day they called and said, they made

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<v Speaker 2>the deal. We're doing the real way. God, how you

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 2>made it, got it?

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>This is fascinating all.

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Those years wow, wow. And I called that baby chain

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 2>because it was so deelius.

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but where's the necklace? Where's the next? Oh good,

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's say good good good carry.

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:20.199
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, there it is.

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh look there's the picture. There's the picture. That's it.

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>It's totally can you see it? Yeah, thank you so

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 1>much for answering that question. We have asked that question and.

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Like, definitely not in because that was that was fall right.

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 2>That's pink that got.

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>It, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>That makes so much sense, I think because Cynthia all

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>were already had Sam when we met her. You know,

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>obviously super maternal in her own way. Right, everyone is

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.080
<v Speaker 1>maternal in their own way. So I had forgotten, like

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're really because now I'm steeped into characters much

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>more more than I was when we were originally making them.

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, this this is crazy, that this, you know,

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>she's so.

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Like hardball, hardball, rocketball.

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, everything she says about being a mother, she said, okay, kids,

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 2>let's forget my life.

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean literally everything she says about.

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Love, yeah, well she says to carry at one point. Okay,

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>you know what else is interesting? There's some things that

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I didn't write, and I wrote lines off of Carrie

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and it happens twice off a reaction. The first thing is, Okay,

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 2>what's what the eyes? You said? Oh, yes, given the eyes. Yes,

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 2>there's no really words I could say. I just had

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>them say.

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>It was great. And it reminds me. Do you remember

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>later when Charlotte.

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Just like that, you give the big But what about

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 2>in the Miranda scene where Carrie is saying, she's saying,

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to have it? She gives her a look, Yeah,

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>you're right, I'm going to give up everything I wanted

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 2>in life and have Steve's baby pizza for everyone. The

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>sarcast god is intense, fantastic buzz saw. And you know

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>that really leads to the fact that when they did

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>those polls back in the day when we were doing

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>the show, who do you identify with?

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was always like eleven percent Miranda. And I

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, bullshit, I know so many Miranda's, but they

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 2>don't want to attach to that wildly sharp wit, sarcasm

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and uh negativity. What was so important? You know? No

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 2>one wanted to identify with that, even though that's a

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of the world.

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and also, I mean, Marena's brilliant, brilliant, had great jokes, Yeah,

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>great jokes and like she's not wrong.

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Miranda had one of those things that I love is

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 2>when a character has a sense of humor and you

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>know what, like it's not the writers putting jokes in

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 2>her mouth, Like Miranda has a sense of humor, and

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Miranda has imagine saying something funny.

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like a.

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Character an actress doing a joke. It's like Miranda's funny, right.

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>She's funny and whip smart, I mean, super smart and

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>insightful and just going to call it like it is.

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's quite something too of fault absolutely, but

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>still yes, yes, So when she does, I mean I

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>really was just thinking like, yeah, this is a stretch,

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Like this is a big stretch to have Miranda just

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>suddenly decide. But when she's in the waiting room with Carrie.

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh that is interesting because it was kind of as

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you said, none of the writers in the writing room

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 2>were at the trying to have children or having children. Yet.

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 2>I think Julie might have kids when we met her,

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Julie Julian and we're together.

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I think they were together, but I don't think they

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>had a kid.

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Well they don't because their kids are thirteen and seventeen. Yeah,

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and we're way past those, right, right, they had babies after.

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>But the thing that Miranda says that's interesting is what

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 2>about when I'm forty something and her scary age, her

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 2>scary age. Yeah, she says, Charlotte's having trouble now. And

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>then she says, is this my baby?

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I know it's cuts? Oh it cuts. It's so good,

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>It's so good. And that's also like he's just so good,

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, She's just like, I mean, everyone's so good

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>when I look back. I mean, not that I didn't

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>think they were, but you know, the layers.

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>The layers, layers, and that the complete evolution. There's a

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>slight evolution in everyone from doing it and being it. Yeah,

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>being it. At this point, everyone's just being it. Yeah,

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 2>you guys are acting and stuff, but you're sort of

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>embodying it. You're just living in it. Everybody's very relaxed

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and happy, and we all know what our jobs are.

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>And the writing is leaving space. Oh you mean, like

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 2>there's space for you to feel underneath it. Yeah, you're

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 2>saying jokes but filling them in with subtext.

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, but that's also the editing, Like you guys

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>were editing amazing because like there'd be silences where I

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>remember in the beginning it would cut cut when you

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>spoke right and then like you might have a two

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>shot reaction. But now there's so many silent.

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Became a very It had a great vine. Yeah, that

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>it grew into a great vibe where there was pace

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>but also unexpected, like people were surprised every week.

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm surprised rewatching it and I thought I

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>knew everything, but I do not.

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 2>There was a surprising Oh, they're going to Miranda's pregnant, right,

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:57.479
<v Speaker 2>how are they going to get away with that?

0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>What are they going to do with that? Now Miranda

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>has a baby? How's Maranda going to be Miranda?

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I know, I can't wait, Just like how is.

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Anyone going to be a mother? Yes, they still maintained themselves.

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a huge question. It's still an ongoing question.

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 2>It was we laid a ball, yes, and yet still

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 2>seems current.

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is why we're still talking about it, why

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>it's on Netflix, and why all kind of young people

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>come up and talk to me about it.

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So nice, Yeah amazing. Yeah, Well I just want to.

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Talk about the comeback for a second too, because like

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>when I think about you, And I thought about this

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>when we were at the Human Rights Campaign when the

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>package rolled, which is so brilliant and so many different

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>things in different shows and different so so many different ways.

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 2>It was a package that I put together of all

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>my LGPTQ plus characters and the straight friends yeah.

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>The Allies, the Allies yeah, and the visibility. The award

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>was for the visibility, And it was so brilliant to

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>see it altogether because there was so much right, was

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>so much over so much time too, and it was

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>just beautiful to look at. And each show obviously is different,

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it has a different vibe, and that's what I was

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>thinking about when I watched the Comeback. It's so incredibly different. Yeah,

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>but it has so much heart, but also I'm laughing

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>out loud. It also has so much to say about

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>our culture but also our industry. But also her is

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.719
<v Speaker 1>just a human trying so hard, and you love her

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>so much and you just feel for her and like

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like everything is just stacked against her all

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the time and she's trying so hard. Like the one

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that I watched this morning, which when I was talking

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to Juliae and Alisa last week I made the mistake

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>of watching Motherboard rewatching Motherboard while I was doing my makeup. Well,

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>then I had to start all again because man, did

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>it get me bad. You know, I mean it cuts

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>straight down into the grief and the loss so great,

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>so incredible and so then but then what they said

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>was that you were the one who had said, we

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>are going to do this, Like it was on the whiteboard,

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>we are going to have a death's going to be

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a Miranda's mother. This was not something that was being

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>done in television in general and comedies, you know, it

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't. But you said we're going to do this,

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and then they didn't know who would be assigned witch scripts.

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>And then as it was coming closer, you were like,

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys, and it's just so incredible what they were

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>able to do. And then the next one, a change

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>of address that they wrote, also incredible, like wow, And

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>they really said that was because you like kind of

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>brought them in, you know, they met with Darren. They

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:36.959
<v Speaker 1>almost missed the meeting because they were going to get

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>on the plane because they're so funny, and then their

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>agent was like, no, you're going. And then they went

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>to the writer's room and you were there and you

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>just kind of cultivated them, and then you would also

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>lean in their office and say you're fired.

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, they were terrified.

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love.

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Terrifying.

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, definitely so good. But also they were just like

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>little kids. They were so young.

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's smart and so clever and originals my mother

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 2>board myself. That's their story. It's so sad. Mac the

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>computer died. That's them and that was a good story.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 2>And then I took a big swing and said, you

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 2>do the funeral. And you know, they're all us. They're

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>all us. So you know, it is thrilling to be

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 2>able to completely have different vibrations of shows and still

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 2>have something that you feel as important humanity to them.

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>So you know, the Comeback has a wild sort of

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 2>wheels coming off the cart pace that we didn't have

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of shows, right, but it does have

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.719
<v Speaker 2>it suits its personality, oh most definitely.

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>So this morning I was watching as I was getting ready.

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just the most recent one where at

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the end, you know, they found out I don't know,

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm not straight. Yes, the leak, which also

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>made me laugh out loud, but then at the end

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I was just so crushed and then I was like,

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>don't cry, you gotta go Jamaica on see Michael Patrick.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>But I mean it was oh so good when things

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>have just like and it's not her fault. It's not

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Valerie's fault, but no one sees everything that she goes through.

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 2>They the whole TikTok world turns against her, and any

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>actress can sort of imagine that nightmare. But the thing

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 2>that's great about that episode and why you probably cried,

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:27.959
<v Speaker 2>is because the husband comes home.

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh thank god. I was so worried. I was so worried.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. If you're going to write sad, give

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 2>them something definitely to be okay about.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank God, I guess you.

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean. That's what we did on every

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, if Charlotte can't get pregnant, give her a

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>friendship where she sees someone loves her. And then she

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>showed you know, it's all about don't leave them there.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 2>They can get enough of.

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>That in real life in real life, definitely.

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>But to reflect life and then sort of elevate or

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:07.280
<v Speaker 2>not elevate, but like bring a little bit more energy

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>up to it so you have a little bit of overview,

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 2>So you can sort of cry in a.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Good way definitely, well cry in a connection connected way,

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>like you're connected and you feel But also it's like

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a kind of about our culture in a way, you know,

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.240
<v Speaker 1>like the thing like we're just like this, one tiny

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>part of a story leaks and blows up and then

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 1>the wrong person's blamed, and then someone might be trying

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to defend that person, but then the other person still blamed,

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and it just feels like the world is against you

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and doesn't understand you, and it's like so just deeply

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>upsetting the culture.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:46.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, it is a very challenging time to be

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 2>an individual totally. It'll go further. A human definitely is

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<v Speaker 2>a machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everything that's so great about art, acting in it,

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<v Speaker 2>writing it, directing, it is about being a human. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and like saying hey, this hurts, it's funny, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>this and it's that. So that's why I think we're

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:19.800
<v Speaker 2>always sort of be here because I agree we're looking

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<v Speaker 2>for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and and AI is not us.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, And there's been a million million attempts at

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<v Speaker 2>doing some brand, but unless it has the spark of

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 2>that individual group, right, it doesn't.

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Track, right, And it's also I believe that the things

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that made people laugh and or cry are unexpected things.

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>So how is AI going to be able to do

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 1>unexpected things if it's just uh, what's the word when

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you're like reading everything and then spitting it back at you.

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a word. I think it's called Okay, there's a

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>better word, but I can't think of it. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. It's not a it's not an

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>original thinker, right, So how is it going to surprise anybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, there is a ton of television that doesn't command

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 2>your heart or soul.

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I know you enjoy it, Yeah.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 2>You can just watch it. So you know, people always

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 2>thought when we started the Comeback it was really about

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the emergence of reality TV and it wasn't going to

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 2>kill in the narrative storytelling. And it didn't. It just

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 2>made a very tacky wing on the house, totally like

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>a tacky wing. Sure that if you enjoy it, I

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 2>have a judgment. If you enjoy it, you can go

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>over there. But you can still go see adolescence. Yeah,

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>you know there's a still a world, yes, where there's

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>some very human expression and then just stuff to watch right,

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 2>so I'm sure a I will find it's that's a

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 2>good point.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. That's a good point. How many

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>episodes more do we have of the comeback coming?

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<v Speaker 2>There's eight in total and they just aired six.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, Michael, what are you gonna do next?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking and dreaming and imagining. And it's a very

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 2>interesting moment because I don't have any ip right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to create something completely new, and it's thrilling.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's exciting.

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 2>It's very exciting.

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you well rested? Have you gotten rest? You have?

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<v Speaker 2>Still a little bit like a crack monkey looking for

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 2>the button because I just came off the big press

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 2>tour in the machine of it. But I don't think

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I ever rest. I think I it's hard to picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Calm down a little bit and I dream and I

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<v Speaker 2>then start thinking something else, like what's coming in next?

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<v Speaker 1>That's good?

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 2>What's coming into the antenna? Yeah, what's the next? So

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 2>it's exciting as long as there is a next, and

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I think there will be.

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>How could there not be? Come on?

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>We need you, yeah, we need you. We got to

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<v Speaker 2>work together again, I know any time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, we'll see if I can find anything interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's tough out there to find interesting

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff after you've had what we've had, you know, do yes,

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. Like there's people that I meet and I

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>like them, right, youngsters, really young young directors, and I

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>think like, yeah, yeah, I could go. I could go

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:20.399
<v Speaker 1>and work with them. I could go and work with them.

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 1>But then it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tard because.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't pull all of you, like the parts aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, should I do it? If I

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>don't care that much? Do you know what I mean?

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:39.800
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to be open to be surprised. Okay, because

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I just had a meal with two really exciting up

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and comers and I'm like, wow.

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Well that's how I feel about Benny and Mary Beth.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on, I like, I was like, wow, those

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 2>are and they're self made and they're doing and remember

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>we had an evolution. Everyone's going to have an evolution. Yeah.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you're right, you're right.

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.760
<v Speaker 2>That's good to thinking of people as wild cards.

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the people. I'm totally not upset with the people.

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>It's more the overall project. And I think it's because

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm spoiled right.

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 2>There's not a lot of great ideas out there that

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:22.439
<v Speaker 2>are getting a lot of light.

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<v Speaker 1>No, so you know, right, Yeah.

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Anytime people see you, they're excited. Just but you do

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.320
<v Speaker 2>have a level now that you want to maintain.

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's that's the that's the difficulty.

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 2>That's where it gets scary. It gets scary how long

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 2>can I maintain my level?

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>But it's not even so much about that because some

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 1>of that I I understand that we're in a chaos point, right,

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.240
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not so much it's more about the level

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of excitement of the actual creative work. That's where I

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>get hung up.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the facts. Yeah, you have a lot to give,

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:03.439
<v Speaker 2>and you've been asked to give fully. To give a

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 2>third or less or less feels a little bit disappointing.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, And then I don't want to go if I'm

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>going to feel disappointed because I don't want to let

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the people down. Right, such a hard thing to navigate.

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I should send you these things. I

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>think we're done now, we probably because now we're going

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to just you know.

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Start talking about projects.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, which you know, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you know this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Say yes or no to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, thank you, thank you. I mean you won't

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you're shaking your head. I mean it's a joy. I mean,

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.839
<v Speaker 1>there's so many things I was supposed to ask you about.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, but I forgot. But I don't care, because

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 1>it's just a joy to follow you in a conversation. Well,

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a pleasure to We love you so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love you pass