1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. Hello, Welcome back to the room where 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: it happened. If my name is met, my name is Nolan. 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to throw away my shot. They hold 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: me ben. We are joined with our superproducer Alexis codenamed 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: to know. As you know, hopefully long time listeners and 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: fellow conspiracy realists, we like to do more than more 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: than just our typical actual episodes twice a week. We 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: want to keep our finger on the pulse of the world. 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: We love your help with this. This is our weekly 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Strange News segment where we look at stories that may 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: not have made the headlines or require some further analysis. 17 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: We're going to spend a lot of time in Russia today, 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: though perhaps not the way you expect. There is a 19 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: guy who's still not in jail named Steven Seagal. You 20 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: might have seen him in some films. He'll be in 21 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: today's story. There is a there's a guy over in 22 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: Europe who is being sued for aiding and abetting a 23 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: possible incest crisis. You heard that correctly, And before we 24 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: do any of that, Matt, I think there's a story 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: that you and I clocked, especially about an unfortunate death 26 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: over in Russia. Yes, that's correct. On this past Saturday, 27 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: as we're recording this April second, a headline flashed across 28 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Al Jazeera that we noticed it was Russian military blogger 29 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: killed in Saint Petersburg cafe blast. And anytime we noticed 30 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: that a journalist of any form has been killed, we 31 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: definitely take note. And this is no different here. No 32 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: matter what they're writing about or what their political leanings are, 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: we should talk about it when a journalist gets killed. 34 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: So let's get to the nitty gritty here. On Sunday, 35 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: April second, the same day that that was posted at 36 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: three thirteen PMGMT, that's Greenwich meantime, eleven thirteen hour time 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: here in Atlanta, an explosion occurred at the street food 38 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: bar Number one cafe in Saint Petersburg, that is, in Russia. 39 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: An explosion within the cafe injured somewhere between twenty five 40 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: and thirty people, depending on where you're reading your reports from, 41 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: because it says twenty five were injured in that Al 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Jazeera article, but in other places that says around thirty people. 43 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: There was one person that was killed. That person's name 44 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: was Vladlin tartas Ski. This person's real name was a 45 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Maxim Foeman, but everyone knew him as Tartowski because he 46 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: had a very popular telegram channel that had over five 47 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: hundred thousand subscribers, around five hundred and sixty thousand. I 48 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: believe this person was a hardline supporter of the quote 49 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: special military operation or action that Russia is carrying out 50 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: in Ukraine, also known as the Ukraine War. To most 51 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: people across the world, this person is very interesting, probably 52 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: not somebody I personally would have liked or followed, But 53 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: again it's important that we at least talk about it 54 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: because this appears to have been a targeted killing. This 55 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: explosion appears to have come from a statue that was 56 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: given to him just minutes before the explosion occurred. And 57 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: again this is within a crowded cafe, but the other 58 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: people in the cafe may have also been targeted, which 59 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: is something we need to talk about. All right, So 60 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down through the rest of this Al 61 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Jazeera article just to give us some important stuff. A 62 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg website, according to Al Jazeera, said that the 63 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: explosion took place at this cafe that at one time 64 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: belonged to somebody we've talked about on this show before, 65 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Yveghini Pregosian, the founder of the Wagner group, that is 66 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: the I don't know, I guess the blackwater equivalent in 67 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Russia that we've spoken about before on this show. Mercenaries, right, 68 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: private contractors, private military contractors. Oh, and prisoners, private military 69 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: prisoner contractors. Here we go, there you go. So the 70 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: reason that Tartosky was even at this location, at this 71 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: cafe is because this cafe that was once owned by 72 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: yvgh Pregosian was given to this group of telegram users 73 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: who were very much pro Russia, pro war, and what 74 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: is the name of it, ben the cyber Front Z 75 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: movement or z z Okay cyber Front Z movement. So 76 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: this group of people controlled the cafe. They would have 77 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: talks there on a pretty regular basis, and this was 78 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: one of those talks. It's a little weird having the 79 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: political connection there to the Wagner group. Right, it does 80 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: feel like this group of bloggers maybe we're more connected 81 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: to the war effort than a lot of other independent 82 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: bloggers that existed out there on the planet. So this 83 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: already makes it feel a little fishy, that makes it 84 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: feel more targeted. Let's get to the explosion itself. Who 85 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: may have carried it out and why? So a video 86 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: was posted that appears to show the moments just before 87 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: the explosion. You can see a woman carrying a package 88 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: walk up to mister Tartowski and hand this package over 89 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: another person. A third person takes the statue out and 90 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: shows it to Tartoski, who then talks about it and 91 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: kind of jokes about it, and then puts the statue 92 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: it down. Then the video stops, at least the one 93 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: that I have seen, But between two and three minutes 94 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: after that statue is placed like right next to this blogger, 95 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: it explodes and the whole cafe explodes. So then the 96 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: question was on the second of April when this was posted, 97 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: who the heck is that woman? Why would she put 98 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: a bomb in a statue? And you know, why would 99 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: is that? What this was basically there was a huge 100 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: investigation that was launched, and literally over the course of 101 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: I think about twenty four hours, there were already some answers. Yeah, 102 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: they found the person, or they in this case being 103 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: the Russian Investigative Committee came out with a statement shortly after. 104 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: And this person appears to have a story all her own, right, 105 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: she's fairly young as well, Yes, this person is fairly young. 106 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: You can. Let's just jump over to another article here 107 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: from CNN was posted the next day, on April third. 108 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: The title is Russia arrests anti war activist following blast 109 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: that killed hawkish blogger. You can find that right now 110 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: if you want to check it out. Serious headline writing 111 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: right there. I just want to point out, all right, 112 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: well you can see the slant and again I'm pulling 113 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: from al Jazier here, CNN, some British sources, other country sources, 114 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: just to show that the headlines themselves really show the 115 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: bias triangulating sources. Yeah, hmm, I mean it's it's pretty intense. 116 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: If you go through this stuff, the CNN article, you 117 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: can feel it a little bit. So let's see, let's 118 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: jump down to talking about who this person was. The 119 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: woman's name is Daria Triopava. She was allegedly a supporter 120 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: of Alexei Navalny, another person we've talked about on the show, 121 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: one of Vladmir's biggest detractors, who was currently in prison, 122 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: was once poisoned. We've talked about all of that on 123 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: the show before. She was previously arrested at a protest 124 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: of the Special Military Action and or Ukraine War, and 125 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: that is one of the reasons I think why she 126 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: was immediately targeted by the investigation as hey, why were 127 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: you even there at this place that is generally filled 128 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: with people who support the war efforts in Russia. And 129 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: she also carried the statute that appears to be the 130 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: thing that held the explosives. It should be noted that 131 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: when this was first reported, nobody was sure if the 132 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: explosives were actually in that statue or not. It was 133 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: thought that perhaps they were, you know, somewhere else, placed 134 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: somewhere else close to the stage area where this speech 135 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: was happening. But it does appear, at least according to 136 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: the official sources there in Russia, the statue was the 137 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: thing that exploded. Question, Matt, Now, I've seen this as 138 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: a Tripova. This is a person who has been kind 139 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: of a known enemy of the Russian push into Ukraine. 140 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: Is there any history here or how much do we 141 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: know about this person who, for all intents and purposes, 142 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: does seem to be the vector for the bombing. I 143 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: don't know a ton about her. Yeah, do you have 144 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: more information on her? Ben? Maybe this is for a 145 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: future episode. We still haven't done a series on Russian assassinations. 146 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: But one thing I think is interesting is that the 147 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: Russian news sources are saying this was a Ukrainian op. 148 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: Did you see that They are saying that. Of course 149 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: they're saying that. That makes sense, right, because then the 150 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: Ukrainian forces are saying, no, this is Russia carrying out 151 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: a false flag attack in order to blame Ukraine or 152 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: in order to you know, It's just it's the same thing. 153 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: It's all the things you imagine. The officials would say, right, well, 154 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: no you did it because of this. Well no you 155 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: did it because of that plus this. It's going back 156 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: and forth. There's no real information. What we do have 157 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: is is a statement from her husband, which was really interesting. 158 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you just some quotes from him. Quote. 159 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: She was really set up and used over the last 160 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: day I contacted her, but I lost contact about four 161 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: to five hours ago. This is immediately following the explosion. 162 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: All I knew was that Daria needed either for some 163 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: task or for some reason, to give some gift. I 164 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: didn't even know what. There is one very important point 165 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: that she told me several times. She was sure that 166 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: this thing would allow access to a person. That is, 167 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: it was not something that should have exploded. Dasha who 168 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: that's how he refers to Daria in principle is not 169 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: the kind of person who would kill anyone. And then guys, 170 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: Russian authorities released a video of Daria being interviewed or 171 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: being interrogated. Rather, is what it looks like and she 172 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: states she states, yes, I was the one that brought 173 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: the statue in. Yes, that was me. And they asked, well, 174 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: who gave you the statue or how did you get 175 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: the statue and she said, I will tell you that later, 176 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: like as in she can't say it within this interrogation 177 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: for some reason. Okay, so she is like she has 178 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: been apprehended, she is currently held by Russian authorities. Yes, 179 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: she's being held by where that was That statement was 180 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: put out by the authorities after they interrogated her. Is 181 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: very strange that she would say, well, I can't tell 182 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: you who gave me the statue or how I got it, 183 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you later. It's very very strange. What 184 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: kind of the explosed those would have to be, you know, 185 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: in the statue of that size to create that much carnage. 186 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean, a fairly small amount of c four would 187 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: do the trick. It's a mini Trojan horse, yea. Yeah, 188 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: but there are other substances that could cause a massive 189 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: explosion like that too. Again, it didn't obliterate the cafe, 190 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. It caused a lot of damage. 191 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: You can see that damage online if you search for 192 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: it right now. Oh, there was one other thing. There 193 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: was a witness who was at the cafe who sat 194 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: next to this person in question, Miss trip of A. 195 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: And this comes from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. They put 196 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: out an article on April third and it says a 197 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: witness said that a woman who identified herself as Natzia 198 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: asked questions and exchange remarks with Tatarski. During the discussion. 199 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: The witness quoted Nazia as saying she had made a 200 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: bust the statue of the blogger, but the guards when 201 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: she came in, asked her to leave it at the door, 202 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: suspecting it could be a bomb. This is what the 203 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: winnows says. Nazia and Tartoski joked and laughed about it. 204 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: Then she went to the door, picked up a box 205 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: that contained the bust and presented it to him up 206 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: on the stage area. He put the bust on a 207 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: nearby table with this other third person and the explosion 208 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: followed almost immediately afterwards. So they were joking about it 209 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: having a bomb right before it went off. I guess 210 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: one of the questions a lot of our fellow conspiracy 211 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: realists will have is why would you accept a random 212 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: statue of yourself as a gift. Tatarski is a is 213 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: kind of an internet influencer. Right before his death, he 214 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: was very popular on telegram. He was also a huge 215 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: proponent of Russia's current war on Ukraine, such that I 216 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: think Matt he would also criticize the Russian war effort 217 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: for not going far enough. Yeah, he got he really 218 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: got his claim to fame when he put out a 219 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: video that went viral and it's got a horrible quote. 220 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: I can read it to you guys if you want, 221 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: but he's based. He was at the location in the 222 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: Kremlin when when Putin basically announced that they were taking 223 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: over these four territories within Ukraine. And his video, this 224 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: guy it was basically saying, we're not going hard enough. 225 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna kill everybody we need to kill. We're gonna 226 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: loot everything we need to loot. We're gonna have it 227 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: our way, and that's it. God be with you. That's 228 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: me paraphrasing. But it was like, really like it just 229 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: pro Russian war, right, That's what it was, and that's 230 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: that's who this guy was. He even embedded himself a 231 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: couple of times within the military during like frontline action 232 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: intense stuff. Yeah, and then we have to ask if 233 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: this guy is being sort of a war propagandist on 234 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: a I would argue a street level propagandist. Right, he's 235 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: not an Alexander Dugan or something. Well, he was born 236 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: in Denesk, right, which is one of the places that 237 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: Russia annexed, So he's got he's maybe got some feels 238 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: about that, grew in that way, felt pro Russian from 239 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: the start. He's being used, as you said, been definitely 240 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: he was being used point being he's not out writing 241 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: things like foundations of geopolitics. I'm just it's strange to 242 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: me because the Russian government, if I understand correctly, is 243 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: saying the Ukrainian forces conducted an assassination. Is that correct? 244 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Is that what the state arms are saying? Yes, but 245 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: they're also trying to connect this person that they've picked 246 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: up directly to Nivalni, which is interesting. So that's not 247 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: necessarily that doesn't have anything to do with Ukraine necessarily, 248 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: So it's really it appears the Kremlin is just trying 249 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: to apply it to anybody that could be potentially opposing them. 250 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: In this case, it would be Russian citizens within the 251 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: country who are fighting against the war movement and potentially 252 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: making them the bad guy. Right, Yeah, still out the 253 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: number one killer of dissidents in Russia, which is of 254 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: course the notorious third story window. There you go, there 255 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: you go? Well, yeah, and I guess that's where we 256 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: have to end it, because is that what's actually happening 257 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: or was it a false flag, you know, from Russia 258 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: to make these things happen or was it something else? 259 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Who knows. We'll have to keep watching to find out more. Yeah. Wow, 260 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: let's hear a word from our sponsor, and we'll be 261 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: right back with more strange news. And we have returned. 262 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: This is an interesting story. It is a story that 263 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately may hit home with a lot of people in 264 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: our audience today. You guys knew about sperm banks, right, 265 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: everybody knows what a sperm bank is. How would you 266 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: describe it to someone who's never heard of it? I've 267 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: always been a little foggy. Are you selling it? Is 268 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: it like your plasma? Being a donor doesn't necessarily mean 269 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: you're giving it for free, right, The term donor is 270 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: a little misleading there, right, Yes, a sperm bank clinic 271 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: essentially exists to liaise between people who have viable sperm 272 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: and people who want to have a kid, right or 273 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: create a family to your question, In some cases, in 274 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: many cases, there is a fee paid for donating sperm, right, 275 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: and there are also any number of options regarding if 276 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: and how a future child resulting from that transaction may 277 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: be able to contact their biological father. In the case 278 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: of like a plasma bank, you're probably not going to 279 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: meet the people to whom you're donating blood. But in 280 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: the case of sperm donor, then it is possible that 281 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: several decades or years down the road, you will meet 282 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: someone who is your biological offspring. If you have donated 283 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: to a sperm bank, it is a bit weird they've 284 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: got Like when you go in, there's basically a menu. Yes, 285 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean are you looking for? Yes, there are weird demographics. 286 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: They're boutique I guess we call them boutique donation bureaus 287 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: wherein it might only be people who are members of MENSA, 288 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: which is an intellectually fraudulent organization. There might also be demographics. Right, 289 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: we want someone, We want a donor who has insert 290 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: here attributes, whatever they may be. And with this in mind, 291 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: you can see how the business gets a little murky. Right. 292 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: And also if there's not a nationwide darres, a worldwide 293 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: regulation for this kind of stuff, then it's quite possible 294 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: to go from town to town just drifting through the 295 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: spurn banks. And sometimes people do this if they can 296 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: meet the requirements. Right, you want to be substance abuse free. 297 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: You don't want to have any clearly heritable genetic plot twist. 298 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: You can supplement your income doing this, but there will 299 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: be consequences down the road. This is where the story 300 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: of Jonathan Jacob Mejier begins. He is currently the proven 301 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: father of hundreds of children and the lawsuit is saying 302 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: that he fathered five hundred and fifty children. And yes 303 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: there's a lawsuit because this individual is being sued for 304 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: increasing the risk of unknowing incest across parts of Europe. 305 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: Are okay to impact? This is what you call sewing 306 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: your wild oats I reckon, uh like, but taking it 307 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: to the extreme. Um So wait, so when you do this, 308 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: when you when you become a sperm donor again misleading term. Um, 309 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: are you agreeing to not do it too many times? 310 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: Is there is there a cap at what point? Okay? 311 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: But how is that communicated? And how is that um tract? 312 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: That's that's the rub, that's the issue, because what if 313 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: you live in a place like Europe where the next 314 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: country and a new regiment of laws, it's just a 315 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: train ride away, you know and probably like what forty 316 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: bucks if you go ryanair. Uh. It was just the 317 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: same guy that got all the COVID vaccines, Remember that guy. 318 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: I was in Europe too, and it was a similar grift. 319 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: I know, it was a similar thing where he was 320 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: able to go to other countries, adjacent countries and do it. Yeah, 321 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: under this So this is a Dutch national musician, and 322 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: under the Dutch government, if you're a sperm donor, you 323 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: cannot have more than twenty five children via sperm donation. 324 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: You cannot impregnate just in general, more than twelve women. 325 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: This is all meant to prevent inbreeding, incest or psychological 326 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: problems for kids when they find out, surprise, you're not 327 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: an only child. We're pulling a lot of this from 328 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: some great sources that are they're all ultimately reporting London 329 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Times article, but you can you can find the information 330 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: pretty easily. Our boy, Jonathan Jacob not Jingleheimer Schmidt, has 331 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: already gotten in trouble for this. In twenty seventeen, a 332 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: band went out against him because he had fathered a 333 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: hundred and two children. Now, this individual lives in Kenya 334 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: and he has donated sperm in Denmark and in Ukraine. 335 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: And a lot of the investigation into this guy comes 336 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: from something called the Donor Kind Foundation like the word 337 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: donor and kind put together in the Netherlands, and they 338 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: have filed this civil lawsuit against him alleging that he 339 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: has actively continually lied about the number of children he 340 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: has fathered through these programs, taking advantage of this lack 341 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: of communication between the different countries, the different programs. I 342 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: know this is a sensitive topic for a lot of 343 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: us listening today, and I wanted to ask everybody should 344 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: it be illegal to donate material like this at this level? 345 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: The gene pool thing certainly sets some alarm bells because 346 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if there were no checks on it, conceivably 347 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: someone could do serious damage to like a population over time. Right, Yeah, 348 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: we shouldn't do this. I do have a solution, though. 349 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: We take somebody like Jacob and like what's his name, 350 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: Jan Karbat that I think we've mentioned in passing before, 351 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: didn't we. That was another Dutch dude. He like ran 352 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: a sperm clinic and he fathered like ninety people the 353 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: same same kind of deal. Take these guys get that sperm, 354 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: that that amazing sperm that they have it it was 355 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: just regular sperm. They're just regular people. Well, now, I'm 356 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, I was just reading how one in six 357 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: people are infertile. Now that are that walk around on 358 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: this planet? One in six people are infertile, which you know, 359 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: this is a regular sperm. This is kind of super sperm. 360 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: Let's save it all up. Let's bank that stuff and 361 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: this guy's agent when an apocalypse have wepens come on, 362 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: we can RePOP get a bunch of John Jacobs. So 363 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: look with the with the right amount of deception, it 364 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: turns out anybody can be their own personal Jengis Khan right. 365 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: But the issue here is one of dais say, personal responsibility. 366 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, ethics are notoriously difficult to enforce. It sounds 367 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of the people who were partnering with 368 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: these sperm banks right to have a child, A lot 369 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: of them weren't informed that this would be one of 370 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: ninety nine kids or one of insert hundreds here. And 371 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: that feels like important information to have, does it not? Yeah, 372 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: it does, it very much does. And you know, we 373 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: were talking a little bit off air about how an 374 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: anonymous colleague friend of ours has has done this not 375 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: this many times, but a significant number of times, and 376 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: how this individual was able to find out that exact number, 377 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: because I mean, presumably you know there are maybe maybe 378 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: a sample wasn't viable or something like that, or every 379 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: time you donate that it doesn't necessarily mean a child 380 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: will be born, does it? So if you're a Jacob 381 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: or one of these other guys, and then yeah, you know, okay, 382 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: well yeah he got that. He's got that method man sperm. 383 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: But like, I just think it's odd to be able 384 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: to get that kind of information. I mean, it's almost 385 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: seems like one step shy of like getting names and addresses, 386 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, like in an adoption scenario, which I think 387 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: only happens at the behest of the adopted child. Later 388 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: in life, they can request some communication with their birth 389 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: parents and then you know that's handled through the agency. 390 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: Is there such an arrangement for donor children. That's a 391 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: great question. The issue hinges on the rights of the 392 00:25:54,280 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: people who are donating these materials. Donating sperm are people 393 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: saving their eggs, and not just the rights of the 394 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: people who are on the other side of the equation, 395 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: but what are the rights of the children. They are 396 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: absolute by standards in this situation. You don't get to 397 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: choose who your parents are just yet. And ask someone 398 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: who has donated in the past, I will say I 399 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: get a little freaked out what I hear about stories 400 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: like these now when you say donated, Yeah, I'm just joking, 401 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: and I do loaded. Let somebody borrow some for a 402 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, yeah, take it around the block. So 403 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: this this is weird to me because I think this 404 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: is going to be an increasingly common issue. And the 405 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: current lawsuit is a civil lawsuit, it's not a criminal lawsuit. 406 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: But I cannot help, but wonder what's going to happen. 407 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: I even read through the Oh, the attorney for door Kind, 408 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: Mark de Heck, who said they only took legal action 409 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: after multiple women apparently reached out to this guy on 410 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: numerous occasions and said, please stop with the donations, Please stop. 411 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: There are too many of your psion out here. And 412 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: he refused. Yeah, He's like, well, come on, this is 413 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: how I make my money. Man, paybe sure, paybe I'll stop. 414 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: So the foundation is going to ask him to do this, Matt. 415 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: They're going to ask the court to order him to 416 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: stop donating sperm, and not only that, but to have 417 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: all of his previously donated sperm destroyed unless it's reserved 418 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: for a woman who's already given birth to a child 419 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: that is biologically his. Wow. Yeah, I mean that makes sense. 420 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: But he's donated under fake names as well. Under I mean, 421 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's identity protection, which further complicates it. But 422 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: the allegations are the guy is gaming the system and 423 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: for many people, families, couples, singles, who who feel that 424 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: they have been taken advantage of. Here, this gets this 425 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: gets pretty gross, right Like this would you can say 426 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: this is not informed consent, right, Isn't that the issue? 427 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: I guess yeah, yeah, that's I don't know. The issue 428 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: is just he's holding the world hostage with his It's 429 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: just regular and a lot of these, a lot of 430 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: these clinics because you know, we're not accusing them of 431 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: being bad actors, but because they don't communicate across international borders. 432 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, you can say, okay, I'm obeying the Australian 433 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: guidelines that a donor can only inseminate five instances, right, 434 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: but then I'll just go to another country. Right, and 435 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: now it's starting over. It's a brand new me. I 436 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: just said. This picture of him holding on to his 437 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: tackle like the way you would a gun or something 438 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: in a hostage situation, and just like the world is 439 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: on the other side. He's like, please, please, Jacob stop, 440 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: you gotta stop. He's like, you can't stop me, like 441 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: that Dave Chappelle joke about the hobo on the bus, 442 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: remember that one. There's also there's also the fact that 443 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: he would write these motivation letters for certain sperm banks, 444 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: talking about why he was the best to help these 445 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: people realize their dream of having children. This is malignant narcissism. 446 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: I would argue, he just really likes donating maybe, or 447 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: he really or he really needed the cash, you know. Yeah, 448 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: But also if you're traveling the world and you're still 449 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: doing this, do you really need the cash? Is it 450 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: just like I wish I wasn't fathering hundreds of children, 451 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: but I need some scratch for the plane ticket. Well, 452 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: what it is? You get to a new town, head 453 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: to the hostel, find out where the closest donation center is, 454 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: make some scratch, Move on to the next hostel, find 455 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: one there, make some scratch. So like a sperm carning yea. 456 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: So what Tyler Dirton and Fight Club refers to us 457 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: setting up franchises. Yea. So this is an ongoing issue. 458 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: We've got some appointments of our own to keep, so 459 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: this may have to be an episode in the future. 460 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna pause for word from our sponsors. We're going 461 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: back to Russia to learn just just like how bad. 462 00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: Their training is Today episodes filled with sticky situations. Boy, 463 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: and we're back with one more piece of strange news. Hey, 464 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna in on a light note today, kind of, 465 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: I guess, depending on your take on mister Steven Seagal 466 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: seen stevens Yeah, okay, he gets the boo justifiable booze. 467 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: He's look, I'm not gonna this is out of the 468 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: context of today's discussion here, but he has been known 469 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: to like flash women and just do kind of genuinely 470 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: gross things with women, and just seems like kind of 471 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: a you know, timanti Steven Seagal. For good reasons. I mean, 472 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: these are things that that have widely been circulated throughout 473 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: the years hadn't have been reported, Um, you know about 474 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: his behavior in those regards, We're not talking about that today. Um. 475 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: You can have any number of reasons for just liking 476 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: Steven Seagal. One might be that he essentially is claiming 477 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: to be a Russian at this point, he is really 478 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: buddy buddy with Vladimir Putin. He's been given some very 479 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: high accolades, one in particular with a very delightful name, 480 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: the Order of Friendship from from Vladimir putin himself. He 481 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: refers to himself as being one million percent Russian and 482 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: now he is h he's taking he's putting his money 483 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: where his mouth is that those percentage points of russianness. Uh. 484 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: And he has opened a school for a training academy 485 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: for a Kido Aikido called the Typhoon All Russian Ikido's 486 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: Center Um, where he recently participated in a ribbon cutting 487 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: with a very very small ribbon. As as Newsweek points off, 488 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: it is actually not the newest of stories. This is 489 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks old. Um. But I just thought 490 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: it was worthwhile because we don't get to talk about 491 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: Steven Sagal nearly enough. Was the one where he was 492 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: on the train and then and then like there was 493 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: a sequel to it undersea underseas. No, I don't think 494 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: that's it. No, that was it. It was it was 495 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: It was a train heist. Okay, go on. Undersiege. There 496 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: was one with a ship too, though, hold on a second, yeah, okay, 497 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: hang on. There was underseas two dark territory. But in 498 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: the first tep on board navy battleship USS Missouri, a 499 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: group of terrorists used the routes of a surprise party 500 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: for the Captain Rouse rather as an opportunity to take 501 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: control and start some sort of international incident. There was 502 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: definitely one with a train, though, Guys, was it the 503 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: was it the one where he pretends to be a 504 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: member of Louisiana law enforcement? Because the real isn't that 505 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: the real life thing? Really? Yeah? Yeah, it's real the 506 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: way Reality TV Israel. Oh I'm sorry. Unders Age Part 507 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: one is on a ship under siege two Dark Territory 508 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: on a train, also involving Yeah, his his character's his 509 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: name is uh Casey rye Back. He's an ex Navy 510 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: seal who keeps getting into all kinds of sticky situations. 511 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: Not even not even the multiple uh multiple lawsuits for 512 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: sexual harassment, assaults, conduct, Yeah, thank you. These are all 513 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: very real things. Um So, you know, it's sort of 514 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: like what Dennis Rodman did, you know with Kim Jong un? 515 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, or you've got real buddy buddy with him 516 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: and became this kind of celebrity over there and you know, 517 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: making the rounds and stuff, and you gotta wonder, like, 518 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: is it you're sort of canceled in your own country? 519 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: Um So you go kind of buddy up with a dictator. 520 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: Is that the thinking here? Why why does he like 521 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: Russians so much? Well, it goes back, uh, for many years, honestly. 522 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: He also, I mean even before a lot of people 523 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: in the United States were really thinking about Ukraine and Russia, 524 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: he was. He was ten toes down for the annexation 525 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: of Crimea back in twenty fourteen, you know, and this 526 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 1: got him in trouble abroad because he I think he's 527 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: just always uh, he's always loved the autocrats, dictators. He 528 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: definitely supports Houtin's version of Russia and people's beliefs are 529 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: their own. But he's had Russian citizenship since August twenty fourteen, 530 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: or since November twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen. Yeah again back 531 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: annexation of Crimea. Yeah, yeah, no, no, you're dear spot 532 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: on with that timeline. He also he is an investor 533 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: in Russian business. There's something called the Gorky Holding Company 534 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: that Segal has a twenty six percent stake in and 535 00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: was gifted a massive plot of land in Odensovo strict 536 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: And this is reported by the Russian news outlet Baza M. Yeah, 537 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: Moscow authorities actually gave the company eight point two hectares 538 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: or twenty acres of land with a market value of 539 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: eight hundred million rubles, where the company is intending to 540 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: build a information center for martial arts. Once again, this 541 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: is this is different. This is separate from the Typhoon School. 542 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: By the way, So back back to the Typhoon School. Um, 543 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: this is what Segal had to say at the ribbon cutting. 544 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: I am very glad to be able to present this 545 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: center today and that I Kedo will develop here. These 546 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: arts can make this world a better place. Buried the 547 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: lead here a little bit. By the way, there was 548 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: a statement from the Typhoons Center saying that that it 549 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: was actually intended. This intended use would be quote training 550 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: for service in the Russian Armed Forces. Okay, and by 551 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: the way, Akedo is is men, you're more familiar with 552 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: martial arts stuff, Matt, I know you are too, with 553 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: the MMA stuff. I believe that Akito techniques are used 554 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: in MMA fighting. That's hard to say, um, but they 555 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: are pretty exclusively defensive, aren't they. Yeah, it's not really, 556 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, maybe it is. It's maybe 557 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: it's what you would call a soft martial art like 558 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: it's it's about the redirection of energy. That's right. It's 559 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: so it's not banned in mixed martial arts or MMA, 560 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: but it's probably not very common, I would say, Matt, 561 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: would you agree with that? Yeah, jiu jitsu techniques are 562 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: probably way more prominent, at least one when I've watched fights. Yeah. Well, 563 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: the comment section on this Newsweek article is a who uh, 564 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: we've got one here from Bill saying good news for 565 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: Ukraine because ikedo is an entirely useless martial art or. 566 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: The demonstrations are literally students performing rehearsed pratfalls. What's bizarre 567 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: is that the Russian military already uses the highly effective 568 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: art of sambo. Sambo is nasty, man shambo is brutal. 569 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: It's also like also a keto doesn't um. A big 570 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: thing about aketo is you don't want to harm other people, 571 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: and a big thing about sambo, like Kraft McGaw, is 572 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: the idea of incapacitating an opponent as quickly as possible, 573 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: like punching someone in the throat like things like that, right, yes, 574 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: serious business. Yeah, so it's it's funny and you know, 575 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: and look, we're not here to body shame anybody or 576 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: anything like that, but you know, I mean Sigal when 577 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: he's doing these demonstrations, he's got a little punch going 578 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: on these days, he's not. He's he's a shade of 579 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: his former you know, uh, under siege self. And they're 580 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: a little goofy looking because it does, to the to 581 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: the commenter's point, kind of look like the way soccer 582 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: players look when they get like grazed on the field. 583 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna get the ground and like clutch them there 584 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: themselves and go into a fetal position like it is 585 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: highly performative, at least an appearance. Um. Another comment here 586 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: from Fred says too little, too late. Martial arts is 587 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 1: only good for hand to hand combat. That anyone tells 588 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: Steven Segal how drones and electronics replaced trench warfare where 589 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: foes are kilometers apart, if not more. Dropping grenades to 590 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: make conspicuous drones is the new strategy with drone operators 591 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: skilled in radio control replaces martial arts. So that's a 592 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: good point. It is a good point. It's not clearly 593 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: an optics thing, you know. Okay, So I was gonna ask, 594 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: do you think it's propaganda? Do you think that's you? 595 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: We got your movie star America First of all, you 596 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: can have him, right, we have the guy from under 597 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: Siege and Their Siege and Understiege two Dark Territory. UM 598 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: can't even think of any of his other movies. They're 599 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: they're really bad by the way they're they're they're like 600 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: sub Gean Claude Van Damn, you know, and no, no 601 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: shade on Jean Claude. I like some of these the 602 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: time cop come on time Cops, slaps above the law, 603 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: hard to kill, Yes, right, yeah, I think. Okay, So 604 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: the thing is with this, maybe there is a bit 605 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: of nostalgia. I know I've never met Steven Seagal and 606 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: look forward to not having to hang out with him, 607 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: just to be again candid because they don't care for 608 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: sexual predators. But I do understand the appeal, and I 609 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: don't want to necessarily crap on a stranger if I 610 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: am just hearing these reports about them. But they seem 611 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: pretty confirmed in multiple US courts cases, and practitioners of 612 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: various martial arts don't have a lot of great stuff 613 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: to say about him. I mean, they kind of paint 614 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: him as a paper tiger. I have to ask what 615 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: the value is there. I saw in an interview noal, 616 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: that he had earlier said he being Stephen Skull, that 617 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: he had considered himself one hundred percent rush. You noted 618 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: that well earlier. That's from an interview where he says 619 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: his dad comes from Russia and he was raised kind 620 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: of in Russian culture despite being born in the US. So, 621 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's a sincere thing for him. Maybe 622 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: he doesn't feel like it's a plot twist. Maybe he 623 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: feels like he's actually helping. Maybe uh yeah, unclear, But 624 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: I do want to point out, though, whatever the case 625 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: may be, with his Russian you know, patriotism, house incere, 626 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: it might be. Um, he has a hell of a 627 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: lot of movies with the word kill in the title. Okay, 628 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 1: he's got hard to Kill, out for a kill, driven 629 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: to kill. Let's see kill switch and how could we 630 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: forget twenty sixteens contract to Kill? Yeah? Look, man, how 631 00:41:53,280 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: dare among this film as well? Segal might be above 632 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: the law and hard to kill? Okay, So he might 633 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: be monster, but he's marked definitely a danger. He's a 634 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 1: dangerous man, that's for sure. But yeah, he's marked for death. 635 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: He's got a fire down below, and he's out for justice. 636 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: He's certainly under siege because this this ike at least 637 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: in this show, because this uh, this dojo, and he's 638 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: created several over his quote unquote career. This dojo is 639 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 1: I think from like Russia. State media confirmed this. It's 640 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: meant to prepare young people for service in the Russian 641 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: Armed forces. So he's not teaching, right, He's not teaching 642 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: actual soldiers, actual combat. He's kind of doing like an 643 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: ROTC thing. Is that? What would you say? It definitely 644 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: feels like that. Yeah, yeah, you kind of nailed it. Um. 645 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: The last thing is I do remember this movie. The 646 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: title still gives me a chuckle. It's called The Glimmer 647 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: Man with his co star Keenan Ivory Wayes and Brian 648 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: Cox of Succession Fame, which is just back on the 649 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: air and a hell of a show, way better than 650 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: any Steven Seagal movies. But um, there is there is 651 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: a Kevin Bacon connection there, um, at least one one 652 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: degree of Kevin Bacon. Um. But that's all I got. 653 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: Steven Seagal in Russia teaching teaching aikido, teaching aikido, which 654 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: is a beautiful art, right, And as as you established earlier, 655 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a wartime art like sambo or KRAFTMGA. 656 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: But we have to see how it develops. Maybe maybe 657 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: Steve has his own take on aikido that is a 658 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: little bit more militarized. Well, we'll have to wait to 659 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: see how that how that develops. This week's Strange News 660 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: has been a wild ride. There's a bunch of stuff 661 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: we didn't get to. 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