Speaker 1: Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? A production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Oh guys, I've lost my voice. So guess what it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. Everybody is takeover Tuesday.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a real quiet.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a sexy This is sexy.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a real sultry episode.
Speaker 1: It's so hard for me to like even like behave
Speaker 1: your name of this episodes.
Speaker 3: For all those Kathleen Turner fans out.
Speaker 1: There, the kids are like Coop.
Speaker 4: Glow up kids.
Speaker 1: She was so hot and scary. Yea intimidating him? What
Speaker 1: a very sultry will you exhibit this Rose finale? My
Speaker 1: name is Ard Marien, coming to you from my sweltering
Speaker 1: garage in Los Angeles, California. Look, you're gonna hear a
Speaker 1: hum in the background because it's ninety five degrees and
Speaker 1: we have a fan on it. So you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to deal with that. Because last year we tried to
Speaker 1: kill Nick viel.
Speaker 5: We also had the fucking doors closed last year. Okay, idiots,
Speaker 5: we might have also had that.
Speaker 1: So here we are after the meanest finale of all time.
Speaker 1: They've done her dirty. Gen tran On behalf of Planet earth.
Speaker 1: I am so sorry for what they did to that
Speaker 1: poor woman, what they did to you. So guess what
Speaker 1: I've told everybody here that they get to talk more
Speaker 1: than normal because I have I'm losing my voice because
Speaker 1: I had so much fun in Europe.
Speaker 6: The problem is is I have nothing to say besides this.
Speaker 6: I told you so again.
Speaker 1: I you, okay, look right, he's right, all right, But
Speaker 1: here's what I want to say. You're right, No, you
Speaker 1: were right, and you were right. Here's miss introducer so
Speaker 1: we can get going.
Speaker 3: Oh introduce us.
Speaker 1: Okay. Look, you know him from Still.
Speaker 3: The Kids and that's it.
Speaker 1: You know him as the sentinel from our podcast. You
Speaker 1: were trying to guard and protect our hearts and.
Speaker 3: We didn't listen to nobody listened.
Speaker 1: No, you were right, and you were even texting me
Speaker 1: in real time Lesson when I was watching the finale,
Speaker 1: and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, you were ahead of me, right, Yes, I hadn't even.
Speaker 1: Gotten no, and I was, but I hadn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: know he sucked yet, and I was like, oh, and
Speaker 1: you were like Devon's a sleeves.
Speaker 6: You said to said it before he even before it
Speaker 6: even happened.
Speaker 1: What inspired you to say this? Okay, let me say you,
Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen, the centinel of the podcast, Jerry Trainer.
Speaker 6: Ye yay everyone. I will guard it and protect your heart,
Speaker 6: but it's on you to listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like the hometown family that member that we
Speaker 1: don't listen to. We didn't okay, so why did you know? Okay? Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Also looking real cute. He usually comes in winter wear
Speaker 1: even when it's hot. And I gotta say, I like
Speaker 1: this summer collection. You look cute. This is a cool hat.
Speaker 1: You got a cute suret. The whole thing is you gotta.
Speaker 3: Look very woodsy, you look hot.
Speaker 1: You got sort of like a Nick Offerman thing happened, almost.
Speaker 3: Like a skater boy thing. Flat brimm cater. Doug, are
Speaker 3: you wearing dickies?
Speaker 4: He looks like a skater, a little skater skater.
Speaker 1: He's cute. I'm going to say, really into the summer
Speaker 1: collection of Douke. You know him from Douke Gloves Movies.
Speaker 1: You let him from the wide World to Duke the
Speaker 1: captain of the podcast, Ladies and Gentleman, Doug Benson.
Speaker 2: He does my captain's hat out today, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And it was it was like it was too dusty
Speaker 2: and not wide enough. I need to like do that
Speaker 2: thing where you wipen it up again.
Speaker 1: I watched.
Speaker 2: I believe it.
Speaker 1: I almost. I was in Greece and I these hattle
Speaker 1: in like the tourist shops. They had a lot of
Speaker 1: like captain's hats, and I almost bought you bring so
Speaker 1: much back then I didn't. I didn't check a bag
Speaker 1: for that. I didn't check a bag, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to get I didn't know if you needed
Speaker 1: a second captain's hat, but I wanted to get a few.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the prints out from.
Speaker 1: The Yeah Yeah.
Speaker 2: Season all the contestants. Why are Devon and Hakim's head
Speaker 2: way bigger than all the other guys. That was almost
Speaker 2: like somebody was already in the key.
Speaker 1: They already knew.
Speaker 3: King can do here he is with some Mormons.
Speaker 2: What was that about?
Speaker 3: What was that? Okay?
Speaker 1: Okay? We also have We also have, honestly our production team,
Speaker 1: the ladies of out whom, one of whom just got
Speaker 1: really hot. Something happened. She just exhaled. We love her,
Speaker 1: kt Money, Kat Money Levine and doctor Hannah Montana, Arianna Rosanna, Rosanna,
Speaker 1: Dana Mittens me Iren Josey Levine, Well the program Banana.
Speaker 1: You were just at the US Open.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was there for seven days. It was too much.
Speaker 1: It was too much tennis.
Speaker 4: It was so.
Speaker 7: I stayed at the I stayed in Midtown. I'll tell
Speaker 7: you where I stayed.
Speaker 1: And it was fun, but it was too much tennis.
Speaker 7: No. I mean, here's the thing. The US Opens a
Speaker 7: goddamn shit show right now. Why so many upsets? It
Speaker 7: was really that were like blowing my mind.
Speaker 6: Okay, I've seen the footage of the ball girl. The
Speaker 6: one tennis player was like upset with the ball. What
Speaker 6: happened with that?
Speaker 7: I think she was losing and being a bitch.
Speaker 6: That's it, Ye, the bad.
Speaker 1: Don't shame the ball the weirdest.
Speaker 3: That's a character.
Speaker 7: Agree, Like I was disassociating because I.
Speaker 1: Was losing at an asshole, disassociation wasting. I really mean
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 7: I don't even know what was happening.
Speaker 1: Now, that's gaslighting.
Speaker 3: Can we just use that? Can I was disassociating during
Speaker 3: this finale? All right?
Speaker 1: So how did you know he was a sleeve? Let's
Speaker 1: get going.
Speaker 6: That is too big there, it's too big of an answer.
Speaker 6: But I will tell you this when somebody he if
Speaker 6: you recall he was coming at her. He was in
Speaker 6: love with her from like week one, right and the
Speaker 6: whole like I'm not here for you guys, and she something.
Speaker 4: And they all thought it was going to be Maria
Speaker 4: or Daisy, so he been come into it.
Speaker 2: It was going to be jen.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, we've never seen such a cruel haunting
Speaker 1: of contest some past and because Marie was really sexy
Speaker 1: and people did think it was going to be her,
Speaker 1: And like, how unkind if you know you're the second
Speaker 1: or the third choice to have it come up again
Speaker 1: and again and then to have it not work out
Speaker 1: when you pick the not hot guy and he still
Speaker 1: wants the other girl, It's like, fuck you, they screwed her.
Speaker 3: I think she chose wrong.
Speaker 1: Okay, talk to me.
Speaker 6: She how many times? Oh so you like I've just
Speaker 6: never had a guy his enthusiasm, his like he was
Speaker 6: pedaled to the metal for her, and I think that
Speaker 6: like he steamrolled her okay, and she couldn't say no
Speaker 6: to it, because it's like how it was like compared
Speaker 6: to he love bumped her, compared to all the other
Speaker 6: guys that are like I'm trying to get there. I'm trying.
Speaker 6: I'm trying, and then he's just like, I'm not trying.
Speaker 6: I'm fully in love with you in every single way.
Speaker 6: I can't imagine not being with you. I have to
Speaker 6: wake up with. And she's like, well, it's bird in
Speaker 6: the hand. I have to take.
Speaker 1: You right, You're right, you were right, it was he
Speaker 1: is a sociopath.
Speaker 6: And let me just I said this the first time
Speaker 6: you had me on. I have to be clear about something.
Speaker 6: When I'm critiquing these people, I'm critiquing the characters that
Speaker 6: that are being shown me. I don't know who these
Speaker 6: people are in real life, but the character of Devon
Speaker 6: is a sociopath and has.
Speaker 3: Been from the get go.
Speaker 6: His his lawyering, his words playing. And if you ever go,
Speaker 6: if that moment she goes, you know, I'm not as
Speaker 6: good as with words as you are.
Speaker 3: That's a red flag.
Speaker 6: If you feel twisted and turned and manipulated by someone
Speaker 6: because they're good with words, that's that's a red flag.
Speaker 1: Major you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3: That's all I need. I'm leaving now.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 6: That's it, that's all I needed. None of the I
Speaker 6: think this group of guys is the worst.
Speaker 3: Do you think here's what happened.
Speaker 6: I wanted to tell you because but I knew we
Speaker 6: were doing this. Yeah, but I watched Fantasy Sweets late
Speaker 6: and here's the thing I was thinking the whole time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Fantasy, I.
Speaker 6: Was like, this is supposed to be the sexiest episode.
Speaker 6: I am bored out of my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And watching.
Speaker 6: Marcus just ramble on word salad for he that guy
Speaker 6: can talk for thirty minutes and say nothing.
Speaker 2: He's murdered enough. He's murdered so many people.
Speaker 1: He shot dogs?
Speaker 2: He yeah, he shot dog.
Speaker 1: He shot does deployed. Apparently he would just shoot dogs.
Speaker 1: He would just shoot dogs. Wait, wait, do not know
Speaker 1: what really up?
Speaker 3: Ship came?
Speaker 5: He shot dogs like sexual assault stuff and he shot
Speaker 5: just really weird on dates, not treating women well, and
Speaker 5: he shot dogs.
Speaker 6: And you just asked me who would I pick? Who
Speaker 6: would I pick? The crazy sociopapaba or the dog murderer.
Speaker 3: Den's looking pretty good, dude.
Speaker 1: What about John? What about what about Jonathan? Did she
Speaker 1: fuck up John? Jonathan?
Speaker 4: My god?
Speaker 1: But do you think he would have do you think?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 6: He was emotionless, he was just a way he was
Speaker 6: like I should have said I loved you when he
Speaker 6: was nice.
Speaker 3: That's our bar.
Speaker 1: But including Gary, I don't know, I including Golden Bee.
Speaker 1: I don't know if any man can resist the siren
Speaker 1: call of a flood of d MS after I don't
Speaker 1: think they can.
Speaker 5: I really And I also think there's more to the
Speaker 5: story with Devan, like I think he cheated on her,
Speaker 5: like I think happened like it's just so, it's so weird,
Speaker 5: doctor b what what do you.
Speaker 7: Think the funniest thing is her being like, and you're
Speaker 7: just gonna go follow Maria? Oh my god, your own bachination.
Speaker 7: It's not that crazy.
Speaker 1: No, she was right after he was right Maria the
Speaker 1: day after they break.
Speaker 2: Up, the day after she or someone else's tracking who
Speaker 2: he's following on social media seems a little like, why
Speaker 2: are you looking for that?
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's threads?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that that it's unfortunate that
Speaker 2: you know, she had that extra pain. But you know,
Speaker 2: that's one thing I think he was right about last
Speaker 2: night is why why dwell on that? Why aren't you
Speaker 2: yelling at me for breaking up with you seconds after
Speaker 2: we got engaged for no clear reason. He could not
Speaker 2: come up with a reason. I'm not good enough for you.
Speaker 2: That is the most bullshit thing and guy has ever
Speaker 2: said to.
Speaker 6: A watch to put it on her and be like,
Speaker 6: I just I couldn't give you what you your standards said,
Speaker 6: standards like sam Amy, Oh my god, it's like you
Speaker 6: said you wanted these certain things, and I was just
Speaker 6: listening to what you said, and.
Speaker 1: So I can't. These guys are worse. These guys are
Speaker 1: worse than Jed dog food jingle.
Speaker 6: Every week she whittled it down to like worse and worser,
Speaker 6: and I could It was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: I can't.
Speaker 2: Alleged nice guys of the season came off like total ahole.
Speaker 1: Jeremy looks like.
Speaker 2: God and just to cutaways.
Speaker 1: His jewelry, it was like fucking new necklace. Just like
Speaker 1: the fact that he like, I was like, oh you sucked.
Speaker 1: Apparently he hooked up with Maria maybe or he was
Speaker 1: like apparently allegedly Jeremy was like in the club, a
Speaker 1: club with Jeremy. Jeremy is who he went clubbing with.
Speaker 1: He was number four, his mom, he was wed, he
Speaker 1: was fun grocery store.
Speaker 5: So on Reddit, somebody posted this that Devin storied this
Speaker 5: on Instagram and then immediately deleted, and the screenshots of
Speaker 5: text and it's a message from her and basically from Gen,
Speaker 5: from him talking to Gen, and it's him trying to
Speaker 5: play the victim, being like, oh, I just want to
Speaker 5: tell you in person, and it's like and and he
Speaker 5: immediately deleted it because I think he was just like
Speaker 5: her person. I don't know, it's just like, yeah, she's saying,
Speaker 5: like just last this is him saying to her just
Speaker 5: last week Friday, you said we should break up.
Speaker 1: You said that before.
Speaker 5: I took that to heart because I've been having doubts
Speaker 5: about our whole relationship. I'm not happy and I know
Speaker 5: you aren't either. Who is saying this, Devin, I'm always
Speaker 5: falling short of your expectations. I've expressed my own doubts
Speaker 5: in last HC. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: I was very honest big couple when they get to
Speaker 1: go like hump in an Airbnb, I was.
Speaker 5: Very honest about where my heart's that. I don't know
Speaker 5: what else to say. You don't deserve this, and I
Speaker 5: don't think I can.
Speaker 7: I can.
Speaker 1: I think he means give you what you deserve, but
Speaker 1: then he.
Speaker 6: Los he can take no responsibility like I would respect
Speaker 6: him more if he just went, I gotta tell you,
Speaker 6: I'm not into it anymore, Like I just played the game,
Speaker 6: and now I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Be Now women are hitting on me online.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like a season of men who wanted
Speaker 2: to be each other. They wanted to win the competition.
Speaker 2: Walked expecting some other women to be there. It was
Speaker 2: jen They went, Okay, I'll pivot and I'll still I'm
Speaker 2: gonna win this thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: It was all about winning for almost every single one
Speaker 2: of them, except for weirdo Marcus.
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think, Well, it's gonna say.
Speaker 5: But also, like, if she's trying to break up on them,
Speaker 5: he's probably for a fucking reason because he's probably being
Speaker 5: like very stand off Like she said that he said
Speaker 5: changed the second they left.
Speaker 1: I'm sure second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, her for a long.
Speaker 2: Period of time.
Speaker 5: Yes, So of course she's gonna be like, I'm not
Speaker 5: happy in the relationship, of course, And I'm sure you know,
Speaker 5: I will say, I guarantee it's an incredibly stressful time
Speaker 5: in a relationship to leave this like you know, quote
Speaker 5: unquote paradise where everything's like set up for you and
Speaker 5: you don't have to think about real, real world issues
Speaker 5: and then you leave and then suddenly you can't even
Speaker 5: see the person. That's gotta be like a hard time
Speaker 5: to do. But it's like he just dealt with it
Speaker 5: like a fucking child.
Speaker 2: It sounds like he should have been sequestered. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: because it's the fact that he went back out into
Speaker 2: the world and who knows what his friend's family, people
Speaker 2: in bars whoever are saying to him, blowing him up
Speaker 2: and tearing her down. Yes, yes, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like because there, that's just how people are.
Speaker 1: And he's clearly insecure. So he's watching her fault be
Speaker 1: horny for Sam, m be horny for man.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, like I couldn't stand seeing that. I felt
Speaker 5: like you loved Marcus Moore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sam am like okay, here we go.
Speaker 5: Also, real quick reality, Steve is saying that something else
Speaker 5: happened is probably cheating.
Speaker 3: And I'm beside myself shocked.
Speaker 6: You should know you he did he did what now
Speaker 6: you're a good jo Wait, he cheated on her.
Speaker 2: He cheated on this show because he kept taking her
Speaker 2: aside before any of the other guys could get to her.
Speaker 2: It was his whole and then retaking her aside when
Speaker 2: other guys had you know, it was just a constant
Speaker 2: thing with him.
Speaker 6: But we talked about this, like, how does the contestant
Speaker 6: in this case, Jen, how do you not see keeping?
Speaker 6: And I've always found it weird that the guy comes
Speaker 6: in and goes, hey, I'm just gonna butt in again,
Speaker 6: and she just goes and says nothing.
Speaker 2: It's almost like a code of the show because it
Speaker 2: happens with the back those two is that they just
Speaker 2: let it happen when somebody says can I borrow this person?
Speaker 3: And they shouldn't, They should want to know he'd be like, actually,
Speaker 3: I kind of want to get to know this guy.
Speaker 2: Like and then they go stand two feet away and
Speaker 2: like really, you know, give him the side eye and
Speaker 2: make it make it like they feel so awkwome for
Speaker 2: the rest of the conversation, it's so daring.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, here we are right Why why we're in
Speaker 1: a while? Jonahs in the audience. Jen Jenna is getting
Speaker 1: to hear her family. Her mom is cute and nervous
Speaker 1: and excited. It's the first time she's bringing a man
Speaker 1: home her brother. The amount of time the brother says,
Speaker 1: I'm the protective older brother. I was like, it made
Speaker 1: me not like him, even though like clearly they gave
Speaker 1: him that line like I'm just here to guide. I
Speaker 1: just felt like patronizing. I'm like, okay, she can't make it.
Speaker 1: Send here to guy the twenty se year old.
Speaker 6: And I am on not the same page with you, guys.
Speaker 6: I liked I didn't mind the protective older brother bit
Speaker 6: because it's like he's not saying it to be like.
Speaker 3: She is so dumb, she can't make her own decisions.
Speaker 3: She needs me.
Speaker 6: He's going, I'm just not I'm just gonna be stern.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna ask these guys tough questions, and I'm just
Speaker 6: letting you know that's.
Speaker 1: Why Jen's not had luck. And previously, what do you think, Tanna?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 7: No, I was fully on the brother's side. He was like,
Speaker 7: these dudes are dipshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like what did Devin do? Do you think
Speaker 1: he was just picking up on a vibe?
Speaker 7: I think so? And also I think he was like
Speaker 7: I don't. I mean, look, he was going on he knows.
Speaker 2: It hard to believe his sisters someone can fall in
Speaker 2: love with him.
Speaker 1: He's just like she okay, all right, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you guys what happened, and I'm gonna go to Tanna.
Speaker 1: So Devin shows up. He's got bags of gifts which
Speaker 1: we never saw what was in there. He also grew
Speaker 1: up with a singer mom. He knows what a strong
Speaker 1: woman can do for I was in he knows, he
Speaker 1: knows a strong woman can do for a family. They
Speaker 1: and he's like. The brother is like, my role was
Speaker 1: to be the projective brother. He says it eighteen times.
Speaker 1: So then the aunt, God bless the aunt, going have
Speaker 1: your day to day an Asian woman incredible out of
Speaker 1: the gate. And then the aunt she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: he was like, I just want to make her feel safe.
Speaker 2: He should have said, I haven't, but I planned to
Speaker 2: ye a lot of them whatever, I think.
Speaker 1: Every woman, every woman. He's like, I want to He's like,
Speaker 1: I want to wake up and choose her and pick
Speaker 1: her every day. And she's like and then they're like,
Speaker 1: how do you would you feel if you're not the
Speaker 1: chosen one? And so the brother doesn't give the blessing.
Speaker 1: They start speaking in Vietnamese. I hope they talk shit
Speaker 1: about him, and then he starts getting insecure and she's
Speaker 1: so the mom is talking to Jen, She's like, no,
Speaker 1: he wants to understand me. He wants to learn more
Speaker 1: about Vietnamese culture. He wants to learn Vietnamese. Do you
Speaker 1: like him? And the mom goes, you need more time.
Speaker 1: The brothers skeptical, he won't give a support and uh
Speaker 1: so there we go. Okay, back to you, Tam.
Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I mean this is it's great to
Speaker 7: see like an immigrant family be like, oh kid, I.
Speaker 3: Loved it, loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I felt the brother was coming from
Speaker 7: a genuine place, like he's like, look, you bring dipshits around. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I've met a dipshit or two. Yes, I don't know, Like,
Speaker 7: how are you supposed to know someone in that amount
Speaker 7: of time? And he just wasn't feeling it. I thought
Speaker 7: he had everywhere to be like, ah.
Speaker 6: Well, maybe there's a strength in the fact that it's
Speaker 6: English is a second language, right, so it's like your
Speaker 6: word lawyering isn't gonna work on us, Like you're looking
Speaker 6: at who you actually are. And he's when he left,
Speaker 6: When Devin left, and the brother was like, you know,
Speaker 6: nice to meeting. He's like like I got you, bro,
Speaker 6: or he did the thing and he like patted him
Speaker 6: on the chest. I'm like, he's such a he's so
Speaker 6: disrespectful and he's such a clown. I just I'm like, ah,
Speaker 6: they must see how gross and I will just disgusting.
Speaker 7: The way the aunt and the mom would just look
Speaker 7: at you.
Speaker 3: Incredible, you are full and we see right through this.
Speaker 1: They were such pokerful.
Speaker 2: They also could have just been like, he's not their
Speaker 2: idea of handsome in anyway, you know, like are you
Speaker 2: very this ugly guy?
Speaker 3: You know, this is the top two.
Speaker 2: We were hoping you'd end up with Harold from Harold
Speaker 2: and Kumbar, some Asian man with a job.
Speaker 1: Jonathan is handsome.
Speaker 6: Jonathan was cute, wasn't Jonathan the one who was like
Speaker 6: I envisioned me like learning Vietnam?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah?
Speaker 6: And someone, Honestly, I can't remember which of the final
Speaker 6: two was asked, but it was something about like what
Speaker 6: do you know about Vietnamese culture? And they just started
Speaker 6: rambling on and I'm like, this is it. This is
Speaker 6: the problem. Nobody has asked about her culture, her background,
Speaker 6: except for like surfaces, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Jeremy did like Jerremy was talking about being Jewish.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was important, right, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I would love to be Buddhist.
Speaker 3: He was like looking forward to the melody of the cultures.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I guess Jonathan a little bit too, but you're right.
Speaker 5: Nobody was like asking her, Oh, what do you like
Speaker 5: do for holidays?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 6: The thing that they harp on and the last umpteenth
Speaker 6: amount of episodes is the like traumatic relationships from the past?
Speaker 3: Yep, yes, And if I heard them, everyone one.
Speaker 2: Somebody has to They're told you have to tell something,
Speaker 2: you have to say something about yourself that you do
Speaker 2: not want to say.
Speaker 3: How you are twenty four? Howenty horrible relationships? How bad
Speaker 3: were they? Yeah, it's insane, And like how.
Speaker 6: Formative are these horrible traumatic relationships that you.
Speaker 1: I mean? I also, I don't get it if you're
Speaker 1: only bonding over bad things that it happened to you.
Speaker 2: And why can't Jen ever once go, hey, you know what,
Speaker 2: this conversation's boring. I'm sorry that you have such a
Speaker 2: hard thing happened to you, but spit it out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And like they always take the longest route to say what.
Speaker 3: It makes you happen?
Speaker 1: What is going on I think in general, like when
Speaker 1: you know, like it's interesting going on dates with being
Speaker 1: a person who's going on dates, like I you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's had ship. I was like, yeah, we all got
Speaker 1: like like not like everything happens to people. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a certain hand delt. Hopefully you're dealing with it
Speaker 1: and let's go positively, like what a fun thing? Like
Speaker 1: how can we have fun now? Like that's part of life?
Speaker 2: Just to show how sensitive they are? For some reason,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, can't you tell how sensitive somebody is
Speaker 2: by how they treat you and how they speak to
Speaker 2: you in general? Like do you really need to know.
Speaker 1: Their deepest sad things.
Speaker 2: And share it with the whole world. At the same time, Douc.
Speaker 1: Is a victim like at a certain like what's like
Speaker 1: a fun how do you move forward and build a
Speaker 1: fun interesting life now?
Speaker 6: And imagine if you're together and that's all you guys
Speaker 6: talk about, like you would hate each other for sure.
Speaker 1: It would be so boring, boring. I've had people try
Speaker 1: to do that with me, and I'm like, I'm not that.
Speaker 1: I'm not the opposite of that. Man, I can't I'm bored.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm not interested in that.
Speaker 6: Can I tell you something?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 6: Your voice sounds really souldruing?
Speaker 7: Do you like it?
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy?
Speaker 3: It makes me when I get low.
Speaker 1: When I talk, like when I the only time I
Speaker 1: book voice over jobs is like this, and then I
Speaker 1: show up and I don't sound like this, and it's
Speaker 1: like I only book things when I have like slate Laeringita.
Speaker 3: That's so crazy.
Speaker 4: It's that crazy that's got to keep it.
Speaker 1: I should, I should damage my.
Speaker 4: Voices, scream all the time, scream.
Speaker 6: All the time, just hang a picture of Devon up,
Speaker 6: scream at it and lose it.
Speaker 1: So then should we take a quick break and then come.
Speaker 3: Back and it for the money for their grandfollowers.
Speaker 1: And we're back.
Speaker 6: I just I feel like I didn't explain You asked
Speaker 6: me a question. I feel like I didn't explain it right. Yes,
Speaker 6: about what why? I never liked Devin and this episode
Speaker 6: really summed it up because he was unwavering through the
Speaker 6: whole thing, which weirds me out, and I think should
Speaker 6: weird every woman out? When somebody just comes in and,
Speaker 6: like you said, just pivots and goes, I'm gonna get
Speaker 6: you in your mind and I don't care about these guys,
Speaker 6: and it's like manipulation and control and I'm always gonna
Speaker 6: butt in and then out of the blue, I feel
Speaker 6: like I'm going insane. I'm not getting any response back,
Speaker 6: and it's like, Bro, you're on.
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, the Bachelor, You're on the Bachelorette, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, you're crying over not feeling like
Speaker 6: the love is reciprocated. You never needed that before, you
Speaker 6: didn't need it in the beginning, and you've never needed
Speaker 6: it and now all of a sudden, it's just like
Speaker 6: a it's love bomb. And then like, I'm backing out
Speaker 6: right at the last second.
Speaker 1: Do you think this entire time was manipulated?
Speaker 3: One hundred percent? In my mind?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Doug?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was working it. He really. He
Speaker 2: often reminded me of like characters like in a Neil
Speaker 2: Simon play, like just you know, just always always with
Speaker 2: a quip and always ready to talk and be charming. Yeah,
Speaker 2: slightly ethnic and uh, you know, kind of an East
Speaker 2: Coast thing a little bit, and uh, but just also
Speaker 2: just a guy that's learned to be a smooth guy.
Speaker 2: What with that face and that body like you know,
Speaker 2: like he's had to make up for it somehow.
Speaker 3: He just lawyers with such ease.
Speaker 6: He just twists and turns with such like it's breathing
Speaker 6: for him.
Speaker 1: And it's like I didn't pick up on I didn't either.
Speaker 1: I thought he was sincere.
Speaker 2: I definitely started to like him, but I think it's
Speaker 2: because my sam M hate was.
Speaker 3: So so so hard.
Speaker 2: I went so hard on sam yeah, and even felt
Speaker 2: it even felt bad for Devin having to watch her
Speaker 2: making that with sam Am at the radio station was disgusting.
Speaker 6: Yes, maybe miss sam M so much I wanted the
Speaker 6: main thing to be the main thing, yeah, and it wasn't.
Speaker 5: That's why I thought maybe he like really did like her,
Speaker 5: and then he just starts getting this attention because like
Speaker 5: I think he's a guy that probably didn't get a
Speaker 5: ton of attention for women.
Speaker 1: Yeah before, because you know, that run club has been
Speaker 1: ditch and it's like, you know, so maybe he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: because he's on that run.
Speaker 5: I did see on Reddit that like like there were
Speaker 5: rumors starting and I didn't see because I don't like
Speaker 5: to look at the spoiler stuff and it apparently was
Speaker 5: in there. But that there was some party like some
Speaker 5: in Houston, and he was seeing kind.
Speaker 1: Of all over this blond chick. Yeah. Long after filming rat.
Speaker 2: You could see a lot of the guys are there
Speaker 2: to sort of like present a version of them that
Speaker 2: they would that they you know, think would work in
Speaker 2: in the format. Yes, you know, because like that Thomas guy,
Speaker 2: I was always upset about everything that ever happened, Like
Speaker 2: he was never happy. Yeah, that guy, Like I think
Speaker 2: he went in there like I'm going to be a
Speaker 2: stronger man, you know than I normally am. You do,
Speaker 2: stand up for my Tom and then he goes way
Speaker 2: over the line all the time.
Speaker 1: Doctor B What do you think of all this?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I agree. I was. I think that
Speaker 7: Sam m I can't remember the difference between the two
Speaker 7: was like that was such a distraction. It pushed us
Speaker 7: towards Devin. Yes, little do we know Devin was sam em.
Speaker 5: So wasn't an edit or was it like we were tricked?
Speaker 1: I think he gasled everybody except except for Jerry.
Speaker 2: But I felt a little bad for Devin, Like when
Speaker 2: you know, when Sam's saying stuff like if this were
Speaker 2: on the outside, I would break him in two. That
Speaker 2: was like that just like he should have been off
Speaker 2: the show the same.
Speaker 1: But he was like he was he used so much
Speaker 1: violent language. Aggressive, No I I we actually cut. We
Speaker 1: kept when you said he was gonna push off my
Speaker 1: ferocious love is a is a real red flag. Okay.
Speaker 1: So then they said there was a little bit that
Speaker 1: I didn't see about the Devin thing with the family.
Speaker 1: They're like, she said he didn't know how she felt
Speaker 1: until last week. I felt like it was a collective group.
Speaker 1: And then she finally treated me like a singular person.
Speaker 1: I would love to have your blessing. They're like, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be with you. And then he said, I've
Speaker 1: never felt like this before, and I love you. It's
Speaker 1: hard that the family doesn't see it. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm not the one for Jen. Then they cut to
Speaker 1: Hakeem in the middle of the Secret Lives of Mormon
Speaker 1: Wives cast incredible. What are you want us to watch
Speaker 1: that show? By the way, I I will watch it.
Speaker 1: It's like a reality show that's starting this week on
Speaker 1: Hulu about these Mormon wives that started like a TikTok thing,
Speaker 1: and then they started and then they started swinging. They
Speaker 1: started swinging with each couple.
Speaker 7: Who got very pop on TikTok and then they also, yeah,
Speaker 7: they all started sucking each other. But then there was
Speaker 7: a because you weren't supposed to do more than making.
Speaker 3: Out or whatever.
Speaker 7: And then one of them like actually caught feelings and
Speaker 7: there was like a breakup. They like all broke apart,
Speaker 7: like we can't be friends anymore.
Speaker 1: We have to watch it. We have to watch and.
Speaker 7: Made the grave air of falling for another one than we.
Speaker 2: Have to watch it on the show starts after all
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 5: Yes, I saw this is established TikTok, Like what we
Speaker 5: need to watch this movie on Patriarch.
Speaker 7: Putting a queen there because I don't remember if you
Speaker 7: remember last week at the mental all they had a
Speaker 7: stark screen with Hakim's face just reacting to the trailer.
Speaker 2: He's a star, yeah, and he's gonna be on Paradise
Speaker 2: and they put it. They put a spider on him
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: They love putting spiders on him.
Speaker 7: He's all his Instagram. Oh great, he's got great content.
Speaker 1: He's incredible because he's also authentic.
Speaker 7: He's the breakout star of this.
Speaker 1: He's like my brother if my brother was on the
Speaker 1: show and like had giant eyes and his name was
Speaker 1: ak Marine WHI should be incredible. Okay, so the family
Speaker 1: doesn't see it, and then so there we go. So
Speaker 1: now we're up to Marcus, and Marcus he's right on
Speaker 1: the gate. He was like, I am not in love
Speaker 1: with gen right now. Like, okay, well we're at the finale.
Speaker 1: So that's like, who wants to see that?
Speaker 2: And you're trying to convince you her mother.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we find out that weird thing to say.
Speaker 1: We find out that there was he actually had three sisters,
Speaker 1: that two of his sisters were adopted by a different family.
Speaker 1: That's very his story is very sad, and that he
Speaker 1: and his younger sister were adopted. He spent eight years
Speaker 1: in combat. Then the brother keptriat shooting dogs and people. Dude,
Speaker 1: as a protective brother, I want more for Jen. So
Speaker 1: then Marcus he's like, look, we're all products of our circumstances.
Speaker 1: I had a heart of stone. I didn't realize how
Speaker 1: how much emotions play in a relationship. I mean, yeah, duh,
Speaker 1: that's what.
Speaker 6: I may have a heart of stone, but his eyes
Speaker 6: are a fountain. If I see him cry, I texted you.
Speaker 6: I was like, if he cries one more time. That
Speaker 6: dude cries at the drop of a hat, And to me,
Speaker 6: it just seems fake every time. It seems like he
Speaker 6: has nothing to say, and so he just goes.
Speaker 2: He can't fall in love with this girl, and he
Speaker 2: thinks he has.
Speaker 1: To fall in love with That's my friend's ex husband.
Speaker 1: She said was a bully and when he would really
Speaker 1: start bullying, I never knew that she's like bullies cry,
Speaker 1: so he would cry, and then you can't you have
Speaker 1: no defense, so he would be able to like cry
Speaker 1: a lot. And that she's like bullies cry. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: That is crazy?
Speaker 3: And I believe it.
Speaker 7: I do too.
Speaker 3: Here's here's a question.
Speaker 6: Do you think what happened was just a fluke that
Speaker 6: the guys got to the mansion or whatever, Yeah, and
Speaker 6: they saw that it's Jen or whatever or they meet
Speaker 6: and they just aren't into her, and they just like down,
Speaker 6: she's just kind of boring.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not knocking her, but I'm kind of
Speaker 3: kno going.
Speaker 1: To like they thought it was America.
Speaker 6: She's just not that interesting of a person and everyone's like.
Speaker 2: They're as tiny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well so was Maria.
Speaker 2: But you know, the uh the guy that showed up
Speaker 2: that she was her previous boyfriend, was like, I want
Speaker 2: to say regular size, but he wasn't a big guy.
Speaker 1: She should just get back.
Speaker 2: They're all, dude, they're all huge guys.
Speaker 6: I watched that episode and I was like, you're an idiot.
Speaker 6: You gotta go with that guy with him.
Speaker 1: He seems nice, Maggie.
Speaker 6: It seemed like authentic New Zealand. I was like, get
Speaker 6: on a plane if.
Speaker 2: He became an actual contestant and it just went all
Speaker 2: the way to the wind. While these other guys are
Speaker 2: sitting around, you know, jerking off.
Speaker 6: And they would have been like, who Yeah, we don't
Speaker 6: have to force ourselves to like this person.
Speaker 3: That's what I think.
Speaker 5: The only person I thought was forcing themselves was Marcus.
Speaker 5: I don't even think Jonathan was forcing stuff. I think
Speaker 5: Jonathan was just nervous. And I don't blame them.
Speaker 1: I mean everything her family said about this, you need
Speaker 1: more time. It's true that they two dates and then
Speaker 1: you're engaged. You're like crazy.
Speaker 5: Probably in the amount of hours that you have talked
Speaker 5: to this person, it's probably like less than five five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's less than twenty.
Speaker 6: Another thing.
Speaker 4: Devin could have said, he could have said, this all
Speaker 4: went too fast.
Speaker 2: I was very into it, but then I realized, why
Speaker 2: are we getting married after just knowing each other for
Speaker 2: such a short time.
Speaker 3: I believe he had so many excuses.
Speaker 2: I believe he couldn't say, he couldn't come up with anything,
Speaker 2: and he had time to prepare. It wasn't like he
Speaker 2: suddenly found out that this happened.
Speaker 6: I remember that moment where he's like, what is going
Speaker 6: on here? Yeah, you heard him say that right before
Speaker 6: they go. He did not know he was gonna get
Speaker 6: track railroaded like he did.
Speaker 3: I think he thought he was gonna come out.
Speaker 2: But there was no way to railroad him. There's no
Speaker 2: way to say, hey, great job, Devin, fucking up our
Speaker 2: entire show.
Speaker 6: I think they thought it was just gonna be I
Speaker 6: don't know. I think they lied to him and was like,
Speaker 6: you're gonna be able to say what you want, and
Speaker 6: she's gonna say something that we'll go to comer.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be easy.
Speaker 6: And then it was like, uh, no, we're gonna like
Speaker 6: he did not expect her to have the receipts when
Speaker 6: she started going, you're dming this person you're in the
Speaker 6: club and that.
Speaker 2: Whole audience, the whole audience there, nobody had his bag.
Speaker 2: No one lost power. None of those women, all those
Speaker 2: women were just.
Speaker 6: Like he lost all this one on one power because
Speaker 6: it was like, oh, they've ganged up on I've lost it.
Speaker 1: And how did he think that? He looked good? He
Speaker 1: went and got fit, He looked he did, he glowed up,
Speaker 1: he glowed, he looked good.
Speaker 6: I believe they told him it's just going to be easy.
Speaker 6: You're gonna be able to say something she'll do. And
Speaker 6: then she started saying like she started bringing up the
Speaker 6: real stuff, and he went, what's going on here?
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he even said like as we agreed, we we
Speaker 9: decided we both weren't into it the narrative, right, we've
Speaker 9: been sayings.
Speaker 1: Like he still sucks. It doesn't matter, dude, Like it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: It sounds like you were pulling away from her, and
Speaker 5: it's like if you're like you can't actually just have
Speaker 5: a fucking conversation with this person you're engaged to, Like
Speaker 5: come on, you're not a responsible adult, and you you.
Speaker 1: Know what she dodged able and then okay, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so Marcus shows up Marcus is there the aunt. The
Speaker 1: aunt goes, Okay, are you really falling in love with
Speaker 1: gen or or not? He says not right now, I
Speaker 1: want to get there. The mom is like Marcus isn't
Speaker 1: ready yet. The brother is like, she's a history of
Speaker 1: people who are not emotionally available. This fits that mold uh.
Speaker 5: Every question they would ask Marcus, so do you what
Speaker 5: do you like about Genya.
Speaker 2: Like insane, no interesting words, No, he were accessible to
Speaker 2: his mouth.
Speaker 7: Well he did show up and he's like, these are
Speaker 7: all this is all my trauma and yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's He just led with that.
Speaker 6: And at Fantasy Sweets when he was just rambling on,
Speaker 6: I thought it was having a stroke.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't this is still going.
Speaker 6: He's still talking and I don't know what he's talking
Speaker 6: about or what he's saying. Is he trying to leave,
Speaker 6: is he trying to stay, he's trying to go to
Speaker 6: Bonetown town, I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 7: To a circle. Like he started like I don't think
Speaker 7: I could do this all the way back around to
Speaker 7: I guess I'm doing this.
Speaker 3: Yeah was crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she goes, I'm in love with you? Do or
Speaker 6: whatever or not that he said. She said that to Devin,
Speaker 6: but she didn't say I love you to Marcus. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and he goes, okay, well I guess I'm in.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, and then she still fucked him after that.
Speaker 1: Really well, I wanted to just say, well, we'll get
Speaker 1: to this, but I could tell he was just he
Speaker 1: was such a dirt ball. When he was like, it
Speaker 1: would really help me. I think spending the night would
Speaker 1: be Really he did say that would really help me,
Speaker 1: and then so like so that I didn't like that.
Speaker 1: And then the morning after, the look on her, she
Speaker 1: looked like something taken. It looked like something had been
Speaker 1: taken from her. It didn't. It looked like he fucked her.
Speaker 1: Not they made love. No, he definitely fucked her. And
Speaker 1: then she was saying like he yeah, she like she
Speaker 1: she looked like bummed out and she took it the
Speaker 1: other way. She looked, she looked so she saved.
Speaker 3: The best dress for him.
Speaker 1: The morning after, she looked disassociated and she looked disappointed, and.
Speaker 3: That's the look I'm used to.
Speaker 1: And then when she was saying also, like she was
Speaker 1: saying last night about how like when they not only
Speaker 1: when she would try to talk about the future that
Speaker 1: it seemed like not only would he just check out,
Speaker 1: like it's like he didn't even want Like. I think
Speaker 1: that she had a really bad time in that fantasy suite.
Speaker 1: I think it was bad, and I.
Speaker 5: Think they are They probably had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably. I think it was bad and she didn't
Speaker 1: like the conversation. I think the sex was bad. I
Speaker 1: think she looked checked out in the morning. Okay, so,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back and look at that.
Speaker 1: I looked I was a different person if I was
Speaker 1: just quiet. How do you I don't think this is demure,
Speaker 1: very demure artist, very very mindful, very very I don't
Speaker 1: think I like it. I think it's not me. I'm
Speaker 1: not dem I'm really not demirror. I'm not very mindful.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm too much, you know though, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I put on a dress. I decided to put on
Speaker 1: a luke since I couldn't actually participate like to my
Speaker 1: normal Okay, but I was happy that I could do
Speaker 1: it at all. I had zero voice yesterday. Okay, So
Speaker 1: she's crying, She's like, how do you see this ending
Speaker 1: up her? He's like these progress It helped last week helped.
Speaker 1: She goes, are you not certain about me? He's like
Speaker 1: the pressure I'm putting myself as a provider. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. He has no job that we know of.
Speaker 1: Does he have a job, Marcus.
Speaker 5: No, it just is retired army, So like, what does
Speaker 5: he probably gets money from the government, but like and
Speaker 5: he and he.
Speaker 1: She says, I love you. He says, I know. And
Speaker 1: the brother, the brother, the brothers in the audience. He says,
Speaker 1: I'm not too happy. So then so then Devin gets
Speaker 1: to go on a date. You tell me when we
Speaker 1: need to take another break. Devin gets to go on
Speaker 1: a date. He's like, He's like, I do love Jen,
Speaker 1: you know, but it's hard that there's a bad thing
Speaker 1: in my mind. So they go. There's two women and
Speaker 1: they go Aloha and they give them lays and they're
Speaker 1: giving them a sacred ceremony. They each have to find
Speaker 1: a rock and it represents a big fear and they
Speaker 1: put they put it in a bowl. A fear of abandonment.
Speaker 1: Hers is enormous. He's worried that when he has a
Speaker 1: bad thing, that a good thing, that he makes it
Speaker 1: go bad. They also have a fear of a bank.
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say, as ceremonies go a pretty weak ceremony.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rock, the rock.
Speaker 6: And then the bowl goes clink. What I'm not getting
Speaker 6: the metaphor. You put your your trauma rock in the
Speaker 6: bowl and they clink together and you're standing in seaweed circle.
Speaker 6: We've made this up right on the spot. Nothing, here's
Speaker 6: your date. We're just gonna use what we find on
Speaker 6: the beach y.
Speaker 2: So then he's like, yeah, get us a receptacle. So
Speaker 2: I realized anything.
Speaker 1: It's not just it's not just about me anymore. I'm
Speaker 1: fully they have to fully submerge into the ocean. He's like,
Speaker 1: a lot of my problem is self created. So they
Speaker 1: throw them into the ocean.
Speaker 6: And then that he says, you I have She she
Speaker 6: goes that was pretty good or not not bad?
Speaker 3: And I was like, did I barely made the.
Speaker 1: Water with him or her her rock? I'm a really
Speaker 1: I have the worst arm anyone has ever.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm not making fun of you Arden, you know
Speaker 6: America's sweetheart.
Speaker 1: I'm very I'm very.
Speaker 2: As you know, athletic.
Speaker 1: Cross across. You go like this, I can't hold a
Speaker 1: very different throat. He says to her, I trust your judgment.
Speaker 1: I do trust you. She says, you see me completely.
Speaker 1: Then he goes, I have a gift for you. It
Speaker 1: was a gift from the shaman. The ugliest jade necklace
Speaker 1: in the world. There's flowers in motion. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: it to you. It's a piece of me that I
Speaker 1: can never give back, and I waited to give it.
Speaker 1: This ugly ass jade. Remember this shit. We didn't even
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 3: It checked out.
Speaker 1: And then she says, you can continue to love me.
Speaker 1: You love me. You realize how important Devon is to me.
Speaker 1: There's no holding back. Then we see an ad for
Speaker 1: Doctor Odyssey. They want us to watch that show. So
Speaker 1: bad as well. Okay, when I was in Greece, there
Speaker 1: were cruise ships parked in front of the hotel. I
Speaker 1: don't think I realized how huge cruise ships are, and
Speaker 1: it bummed me out.
Speaker 4: It's insane.
Speaker 2: I saw a picture today of a modern cruise ship. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's insane.
Speaker 1: As they're terrible for the impact. That's I was just
Speaker 1: looking at all. I think about how bad they were
Speaker 1: for Earth. Terrible. There it was, it blocked the whole
Speaker 1: view from our hotel, and we were kind of up
Speaker 1: on a like a hill. You couldn't see past this
Speaker 1: fucking boat. They're huge. I didn't like that. I'm not
Speaker 1: a cruise girl. I'm not a cruise perk.
Speaker 6: But the live shows are fantastic. I've never been on one.
Speaker 6: Never gonna go doctor cruise.
Speaker 7: Every time my parents would try and take us, my
Speaker 7: brother would literally be like, but remember what happened to
Speaker 7: the Titanic, And then my dad would be like, fine, fine.
Speaker 5: Yes, you guys have to There's like a there's a
Speaker 5: YouTube thing called about the Coasta Concordia ship where they
Speaker 5: it was like a brand new cruise sh yeah, and
Speaker 5: this was not that long ago, in twenty nineteen or
Speaker 5: something like that, and they tried to go too close
Speaker 5: to the shore. There's a dumb captain, yes, and that
Speaker 5: nobody in there spoke the same language either.
Speaker 1: So no one could talk to each other, and the
Speaker 1: whole ship fuckings louck.
Speaker 5: It's honestly the most fascinating ever. Was it called Coasta
Speaker 5: or Costa?
Speaker 1: Where did you see this?
Speaker 2: There's a it was all over the news when it happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a there's an internet video all yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy crazy, would live on cruise out
Speaker 2: of millions? But yeah, I mean, you have a better
Speaker 2: chance of winning the lottery than what happened to the
Speaker 2: Concordia or whatever.
Speaker 3: It was called.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Would you live on the one where you can live
Speaker 3: on it all around?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think. I don't think I
Speaker 2: could do that, but I do. I love cruises. I
Speaker 2: mean I don't. I don't care for the environmental impact.
Speaker 2: But also I'm not gonna be ongoing on that many
Speaker 2: more cruises.
Speaker 1: My friend Jessica who did the podcast last week, she
Speaker 1: loved cruises.
Speaker 2: She go on rock cruises and do stand up comedy
Speaker 2: and it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: She said she had the best time. She went with
Speaker 1: Amy Manon as her guest. The best time, the best
Speaker 1: time my grandmother and her gentlemen for I used to go.
Speaker 1: She had so much. She said she didn't want to
Speaker 1: go on a cruise and that she had the best time.
Speaker 2: No, people hate it get really turned around once they
Speaker 2: do it. But there are a lot of downsides, including
Speaker 2: like they just can't control the weather, so some of
Speaker 2: these cruise ships stupidly go through really bad storms. I
Speaker 2: was on one, one of the last ones I went on.
Speaker 2: The boat was like insanely rocking for like a day
Speaker 2: and a half, so everyone was like throwing up everywhere.
Speaker 2: But I've been on so many cruises and I went
Speaker 2: I in fact, I probably slept very well because of it.
Speaker 4: A baby rocked.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But if you're sitting there thinking about like this, this
Speaker 2: boat's gonna capsize and you get stressed out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you eat, you still eat the boat food,
Speaker 3: boat food.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get sick. You're gonna get so sick.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I don't do well. I get seasick.
Speaker 2: You see triangle sadness?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Oh, that like fun though, I want to see Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's so fun.
Speaker 2: If you want to really be put off of ever
Speaker 2: getting on a.
Speaker 1: Boat, is that the one with Harrelson. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to see that. Okay, So Doctor Odyssey, she woke up
Speaker 1: confused after her great date with Devin. Should we take
Speaker 1: a break in the comeback?
Speaker 8: Sure?
Speaker 1: Okay, but bones zone. Let's get in the bone zone, guys,
Speaker 1: and we're back. Okay. She woke up confused. So Marcus
Speaker 1: is talking to Jesse. He feels conflicted. He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: every time we spend together, we're making progress. And then
Speaker 1: he's like, look, I'm not here to like push you
Speaker 1: or whatever, man, but like, if you love her, I
Speaker 1: think you got You're gonna lose her if you know,
Speaker 1: you've got to say it.
Speaker 6: That was when I was like, Jesse's a company man.
Speaker 6: I know he's manipulating this whole time.
Speaker 7: Last episode, so you got to kind of wrap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and I really like Jesse, but I
Speaker 1: had issues last night with some of his behavior. I
Speaker 1: didn't like that, and I can't forgive them for making them.
Speaker 6: Watch his chat at the bar with Devin where he
Speaker 6: basically was like, can't you just hold on? Like there's
Speaker 6: when Devin started crying and he's like, almost, can't you
Speaker 6: just keep it together? Like you can last you can
Speaker 6: make it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was like, I thought Jesse was going to say
Speaker 6: something to the effect of think about the future. Will
Speaker 6: you look if you leave, will you look back and
Speaker 6: regret it? But instead he was just like, let's suck
Speaker 6: it up, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's like yeah, and that's why they have Jesse
Speaker 2: do it instead of just a producer because it's on camera,
Speaker 2: so like that's that adds extra weight. To it like
Speaker 2: then he has to do what he's telling him to
Speaker 2: do because it's the show is happening.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, they're like to listen down, corporate, let's down
Speaker 1: all the big guns, like the national guy to come
Speaker 1: in and Jess like, it would really help everybody if
Speaker 1: you did this.
Speaker 6: They knew what I knew, which is Devin is so
Speaker 6: aware of the cameras and he's so aware.
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying about him being an actor
Speaker 2: is he's like, looks like he's in a stage always.
Speaker 1: I didn't either.
Speaker 2: You guys are why the way he looks down and
Speaker 2: around a lot and you know, like he doesn't you know,
Speaker 2: he never accidentally looks into the camera. He's he's like
Speaker 2: always and he's always like doing this Croy little.
Speaker 1: Neither and I like hate that he tricked me. Me too.
Speaker 1: I actually am impressed that the fellas of WEE, except
Speaker 1: this one, men might know what to look for. I
Speaker 1: didn't know. We don't know. We didn't know.
Speaker 5: I felt, you guys meet fake men, you know, I
Speaker 5: mean we we probably see.
Speaker 1: Some of the gals stuff that you don't see.
Speaker 3: It just looks I don't know how to put it.
Speaker 3: It just looks like posturing.
Speaker 2: It's like you always giving a performance, and especially like
Speaker 2: in the first episodes. Uh. He also every time he
Speaker 2: was on camera he had like like catch phrasey kind
Speaker 2: of things to say, always catching. He lost that over
Speaker 2: the season because I think like he's not also good
Speaker 2: at coming up with that. Yeah, Sam became that and
Speaker 2: then but also he got to just sit there and
Speaker 2: take shots at Sam while we sat back and went, oh, great,
Speaker 2: Sam's getting shots. That's what made me like, Devon, you
Speaker 2: are around while.
Speaker 6: Here's an example of the catchphraziness. He's having that conversation
Speaker 6: with Jesse and instead of going like thank you or
Speaker 6: like anything genuine like a thank you for the pep
Speaker 6: talk that really helped me, he goes he goes like,
Speaker 6: you know, like I'm thinking of you, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: And then and then Devin goes, I got you, bro,
Speaker 3: like I got like I got you.
Speaker 2: What do you respond to doing this to not let
Speaker 2: down Jesse?
Speaker 3: It's like a tick.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep telling this woman I love her because
Speaker 2: Jesse wants me to do with the response is.
Speaker 6: Like this weird tick language where it's like I'm not
Speaker 6: saying anything, but I'm saying something that sounds cool for
Speaker 6: the camera. And that's the thing that I'm like, where's
Speaker 6: the genuine article here? He he says, weird stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are right.
Speaker 7: I didn't notice that, but that's interesting.
Speaker 1: You're right. I feel I do too. So then she
Speaker 1: woke up confused Marcus. He's like, you got it. You
Speaker 1: gotta tell her you love her. Man. So she's getting
Speaker 1: ready and you can tell she's upset. She's frowning walking
Speaker 1: down the whole hallway in the hotel, knock knock, knocked.
Speaker 1: She had to wait a while for him to answer, Oh.
Speaker 6: Why you.
Speaker 3: Immediately what we all thought.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, and he actually seems surprised because
Speaker 1: usually the ladies like show up in full face. You
Speaker 1: could tell they've been warned. They didn't warn him.
Speaker 3: Yah lamps up with the cameras so bad. He went,
Speaker 3: we're on camera. Got it?
Speaker 1: She wanted an answer. She was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: the overnight I talked about the future. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you see me in your future. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I regret not diving deeper. She's like, well, I feel
Speaker 1: like I tried and you didn't want to. I feel
Speaker 1: like you were not excited for the future with me.
Speaker 1: It's scary to me. I'm struggling for sure, it's been
Speaker 1: He's like, look, I've been honest about my struggle. I'm
Speaker 1: not keeping anything from you. I want to keep trying. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm I want to keep my My biggest goal in
Speaker 1: the world is to fall in love, be a father,
Speaker 1: find that person, start a family. She's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: doy is it with me? So then in the audience
Speaker 1: Rachel the Bachelorette, and it felt kind of mean. She
Speaker 1: was giggling on camera and whispering behind her feet.
Speaker 2: She was like a bit yeah, although I will She
Speaker 2: also was cut. They used her as a crying cut
Speaker 2: away quite often.
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, what did Katie that? Anna? What did you
Speaker 1: think when she was talking? She was Rachel the Bachelorette
Speaker 1: was big, but she was giggling and whispering behind her hand.
Speaker 7: Oh, that was like weirdly cut like it was me.
Speaker 7: I can imagine. That was actually like against because she
Speaker 7: was crying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she cried a lot.
Speaker 7: Out of context for something.
Speaker 1: She was giggling behind her hand when she's the edit
Speaker 1: was met Rachel.
Speaker 7: Because she was like crying when when But this was in.
Speaker 1: Real time, though they do it in real time. She
Speaker 1: was giggling when he's when they said, couldn't have someone
Speaker 1: said something to her? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, But what did he say right before she giggled?
Speaker 1: She said she he talked about how his goal was
Speaker 1: to start a family, and she said, I know, but
Speaker 1: is it with me? I think it was just a
Speaker 1: bad cut personally. I bet someone like that.
Speaker 2: Right, nervous, giggle, upset, Yeah, like laughing.
Speaker 4: At and she knows. She already knows the outcome. She
Speaker 4: already knows that they broke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right. She does know you're right.
Speaker 1: So then he goes, it's so scary to me to
Speaker 1: move forward. She's super upset. He starts crying again. Bully, bully,
Speaker 1: that's right, she said, I have invested so much. I
Speaker 1: actually was proud of her in this moment. She was done.
Speaker 1: She's like, I've invested so much of me into somebody,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know what to do, where to
Speaker 1: do with it?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 1: Where am I supposed to go from here? I'm not
Speaker 1: being handled with care. I'm tired of it. I don't
Speaker 1: want to feel this way. He then manipulates. He goes,
Speaker 1: I know that and I love you just like smm,
Speaker 1: same thing SAMM did. He goes, I want to do
Speaker 1: this with you. I want to give it a cry.
Speaker 1: She walks away. She goes, I need a second. She's like,
Speaker 1: I am I'm a little He goes, I'm a little
Speaker 1: afraid right now. I'm afraid of losing you.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: Said so, then she goes. He goes, I did fall
Speaker 1: in love with you? And then she goes in. He goes,
Speaker 1: can I live up to what it is that Jen says?
Speaker 1: She's want. He's like, I'm not giving you what you need.
Speaker 1: I open my heart up to you every second. And
Speaker 1: then she's like, I'm lost. I'm sick of trying to pretend.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of trying to prove that I'm worthy. I'm done.
Speaker 1: I am done. I'm not. I am not like sitting here.
Speaker 1: I don't want somebody that's afraid of losing me. I
Speaker 1: want somebody that wants me. Okay on the table, Jerry Trainer.
Speaker 6: That's fair what she says, but I take umbrage with
Speaker 6: the I've invested so much, I've given so much.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Guys went on sweet dates with the guy who pretends
Speaker 2: to yeah, and these.
Speaker 3: Guys just throw themselves at you, but and you do nothing.
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't I and I'm I'm a big believer,
Speaker 1: And there are no fixer uppers. And like we all
Speaker 1: can willfully want if we have a crush on someone,
Speaker 1: we can willfully if they're not into you, they're not
Speaker 1: into you. So you've invested trying to make him be it.
Speaker 1: He's not into you, he'd let you know. He's so
Speaker 1: like you're you're trying to make the outcome that you want.
Speaker 1: It's not happening. So like that's on you that you
Speaker 1: couldn't let it go. We've all been there and like,
Speaker 1: but don't Like I stopped doing that in my twenties.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that anymore. If you're not into me,
Speaker 1: I'm out. I don't want that. I'm not chasing somebody
Speaker 1: to try to talk them into me. I but you
Speaker 1: have to learn that behavior. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I had ideas the guy in college that it was
Speaker 5: like back and forth. He would like love Bomby for
Speaker 5: a week and the next week he'd be like, you're
Speaker 5: a lot, I'm never doing that, and then never again,
Speaker 5: like wait, fuck him, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1: Very like I learned a lot from that situation. I
Speaker 1: stopped doing that in my early twenties. I was just like,
Speaker 1: the second I get his inkling that, I'm like, you
Speaker 1: will never. I want to be the main thing. I
Speaker 1: get to keep the main thing. I got ten toes
Speaker 1: on the ground. I got to be anything the main thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Do you know what I do?
Speaker 6: I'm just thinking it's it's just interesting the difference between
Speaker 6: men and women and the ANARCHI do.
Speaker 1: You understand how much it sucks for us?
Speaker 7: Yes? I do.
Speaker 6: I've been on a step many dates and we always
Speaker 6: talk about it every date. I'm like, you know, how
Speaker 6: is this experience? And because I want to know? And
Speaker 6: the nightmare stories I hear are just psychotic. And it's
Speaker 6: people like Devin that love bomb that go crazy after
Speaker 6: one date. Why aren't you calling? Why aren't you calling?
Speaker 6: Stuff like that, And then the opposite where it's like
Speaker 6: if they're not calling, just leave them alone, let it go,
Speaker 6: let it go.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 1: I will never chase somebody.
Speaker 3: Just don't chase.
Speaker 1: I would never chase somebody.
Speaker 3: They don't want to be with you, they won't be.
Speaker 1: I would literally never. I don't care. I would not
Speaker 1: choose trying gospeling like, I wouldn't chase anybody. Now, I
Speaker 1: would not chase any you want never never know if
Speaker 1: you don't, if you're not chasing me, if you're not
Speaker 1: pursuing me, it's out. It's not happening, Doctor.
Speaker 7: B I might chase Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 1: He's so cute, funny, he's so cute.
Speaker 3: By the way, how do we all feel about fall? Guys?
Speaker 3: Just weird? I want to play. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 2: I have seen it.
Speaker 1: It's funny like it, it's fun, it's really fun. I
Speaker 1: also I had loved it. He's so fun, so funny,
Speaker 1: very I loved it.
Speaker 3: Well, I love That's the thing that's bothering me about it.
Speaker 3: I loved it so much.
Speaker 1: I loved it, and then people I loved it.
Speaker 2: Why wasn't the Why wasn't all this making people go
Speaker 2: to the theater? Like everybody that saw it liked it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: I told everybody I saw it, stops speak.
Speaker 5: I saw it twice and I saw it like it
Speaker 5: is that it is after coming out, and both times
Speaker 5: we went on like a Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: It is what it was.
Speaker 4: A theater was packed needed Buddy, but needed time.
Speaker 3: My buddy explained it.
Speaker 6: He's he said he was worried that it was like
Speaker 6: a Dukes of Hazzard Starsky and Hutch type.
Speaker 2: Well, it's an IP and nobody gives a ship about
Speaker 2: They should have just made a movie about a stuntman
Speaker 2: and not even God's great.
Speaker 1: He was so good.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it was a black I love it.
Speaker 2: I did all right, Okay, I'm like hearing that women
Speaker 2: like it because because my love scenes that I've seen
Speaker 2: is that is that it's a lot of action and
Speaker 2: a lot of women just I wreck out.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that every night I go,
Speaker 1: I go opening every mission, impossible, every fast and furious.
Speaker 1: I love. I like real action.
Speaker 3: On your own.
Speaker 2: Most women, not most, but a lot of women have
Speaker 2: to see these movies because their boyfriend chooses and then
Speaker 2: they have a miserable That's a great example of the
Speaker 2: Star Wars. You should watch them.
Speaker 3: They're great. Like, no, they're not.
Speaker 1: I but every I like action. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see g I I want real action. And that's why my.
Speaker 5: Fall guy was a blast and Ryan even you can
Speaker 5: tell that's like I love Ane and that's my time.
Speaker 6: Is that won where he goes up and then they
Speaker 6: do the fall.
Speaker 1: So good. That's good, Okay? Can I just say side
Speaker 1: note which was also so fun not action. When I
Speaker 1: was in London, my friend who runs through Paul Drag
Speaker 1: Race in England had told me to go to see
Speaker 1: and Shamwaan wouldn't go with me. Over New Year's he
Speaker 1: told me to go see the Abba Voyage show and
Speaker 1: Shaman was not like he's like, I'm not an older
Speaker 1: gay man. So that I so that when I was
Speaker 1: there last so that I was there with my friend
Speaker 1: this week, I was like, will you go with me
Speaker 1: to the Abba like Hologram show? I don't know, like's
Speaker 1: c G I. I'm not like an AI whatever AI.
Speaker 1: So it is so fucking fun. Is honestly the best
Speaker 1: no offense to live performers. It's the best concert I've
Speaker 1: ever been to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's rules and they.
Speaker 1: And the technology is so wild because it's them at
Speaker 1: their peak and it was only like eighty pound and
Speaker 1: we were the growth. I will go again.
Speaker 3: I'm not an older game man and I would have
Speaker 3: gone with you.
Speaker 1: I'll go, let's go. I want to go, I will
Speaker 1: I need to go again?
Speaker 2: Where is it? I want to see it because.
Speaker 1: You love show.
Speaker 3: I can't make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's not convenient at all, but we have
Speaker 2: to go to which they do it around here.
Speaker 1: So they built a special theater for it, right.
Speaker 2: They could build another special Do you think there's only
Speaker 2: give me one sphere? Now that that thing's so popular England,
Speaker 2: we got to the sphere. Every city has a ferris wheel,
Speaker 2: they can have a theater.
Speaker 1: Let's go to London.
Speaker 7: I tell you what I saw.
Speaker 1: Can we do a show? We could do a live
Speaker 1: show at the London at the Soho Playhouse. I saw
Speaker 1: Omar and you get so fun. I saw it. It's
Speaker 1: so fun. I saw it was so fun. Go see Mary,
Speaker 1: you go see Apple Voyage. It was I cried so
Speaker 1: Jessica and I both cried. It was so Here's what
Speaker 1: was so cool?
Speaker 2: Did they play for?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Obviously here's why I cried. If you've lost somebody,
Speaker 1: So this is the only podcast about the batchel for.
Speaker 2: Not doing the song you wanted them to.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's my because the podcast is about the bat
Speaker 1: I want to tell yes, obviously, here's what's cool about it?
Speaker 1: When you see people in their prime that are no
Speaker 1: longer and like they're still alive, but you see them
Speaker 1: in their peak and you see that like a spirit
Speaker 1: that if they're no longer here, that it can still
Speaker 1: matter and means. It was very having lost people, it
Speaker 1: was very moving seeing some to see energy still there
Speaker 1: like at their best. I found it, Oh because Jessica
Speaker 1: also lost her mom, and like there was just something
Speaker 1: about seeing these people in their prime that that I
Speaker 1: just felt like people are still around even if it's
Speaker 1: not like, even if they're not physically here, there was
Speaker 1: something about seeing them in real time, like in their
Speaker 1: peak was so moving. I loved it ill.
Speaker 2: To get go back and see a very realistic early Beatles.
Speaker 1: Performing, it was incredible.
Speaker 2: It was so many things would be great, like David
Speaker 2: mac second, they manipulated, have them say something they never said.
Speaker 2: That's when the line needs to start.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, because they recorded it.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, it existed, yeah absolutely, and they are still alive.
Speaker 1: Well no, they recorded it in real time, so they
Speaker 1: recorded so that they're the real people. It was incredible. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to say. Let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break away, be right back. The eagle is landed and
Speaker 1: we're back, just so you know. Abbot Voyage has been
Speaker 1: extended through twenty twenty nine. It's so popular.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I.
Speaker 4: Would go no rush.
Speaker 2: Then next time we happened to be in London, I.
Speaker 1: Will go with you, I'll meet you.
Speaker 2: I will literally I'd go to London to do this.
Speaker 1: There I I wish we could do this. We could
Speaker 1: do this. We'll do really except this, and then we'll
Speaker 1: go to Abba voyage. It was fun go from New York. Okay,
Speaker 1: so here we are.
Speaker 2: Always stop in New York. Why why do you go
Speaker 2: all the way to London when New York's.
Speaker 1: Exactly agree to agree? So here we are. She leaves him,
Speaker 1: so she's like, I feel like Devin is heading into
Speaker 1: my future with someone I don't want to be with
Speaker 1: someone who's afraid to lose me. I'm done. I'm just done.
Speaker 1: I am done. I deserve a partner who gives as
Speaker 1: much as I give. Thank you for making this easy.
Speaker 1: You allowed me to give myself the answer. My whole life,
Speaker 1: I've I've tried to push people into wishing they would
Speaker 1: like see me. I've given so much of this and
Speaker 1: I don't want to be taken for granted anymore. This
Speaker 1: poor woman, this poor woman, she's like I needed I
Speaker 1: needed to get out of here. So here she is,
Speaker 1: she's so happy, it's been so long and uh and
Speaker 1: she's like super excited. Off she goes. So then they
Speaker 1: bring him out, they bring him out. I still care
Speaker 1: for you deeply. I wanted to run towards Devn, not
Speaker 1: away from you. My heart was in a different place
Speaker 1: all along. I kind of already knew. I kind of
Speaker 1: like she was rewriting history there, like because I felt
Speaker 1: like she was at that moment in time, I thought
Speaker 1: she was still with Devon and that she was trying
Speaker 1: to make him feel better, like no, I always love
Speaker 1: dev And it's like, well that I don't fully believe that,
Speaker 1: but okay, that you know. I think it was always
Speaker 1: him from the start. And then he said, Marcus says,
Speaker 1: I loved you enough to get out of the way.
Speaker 1: I didn't believe that.
Speaker 7: We were all like read it.
Speaker 1: And then she exactly, and then she's like, my heart
Speaker 1: was different. Everyone's red reddit we're all like the look
Speaker 1: on the ant and the mama's face. You shook dogs
Speaker 1: and you and you have.
Speaker 3: A oh, so that people in the audience are aware of.
Speaker 4: His everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows.
Speaker 7: I think it's not. It's hard to hide shit like that,
Speaker 7: you know, once it pops off, it pops off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave him his like applause and stuff, though
Speaker 2: they didn't like.
Speaker 1: They didn't ask about like so you killed dogs.
Speaker 2: After the said audience silent.
Speaker 1: Like what kind of dogs? How many dogs?
Speaker 2: You think?
Speaker 1: That's exactly so you're a dog like insane like.
Speaker 7: Killing animals and some grend kind of serial killer.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Was like he was on people were just was like
Speaker 7: like would dogs for fun?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Afghanistan being like ha, like this enemy like
Speaker 2: it's the enemy's dog.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is like so all like all of
Speaker 5: it's alleged stuff came came out about him, like and
Speaker 5: allegedly about women just as a lot like really weird
Speaker 5: on dates.
Speaker 1: Being in cushy with women and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But then this one girl was like, my boyfriend was
Speaker 5: deployed with him and says that he just used to
Speaker 5: shoot dogs for fun.
Speaker 1: And apparently somebody else verified that.
Speaker 7: Oh god, it's like once it's what your.
Speaker 1: Dog shooter, Like, you're a lady lady assault alleged lady assault.
Speaker 1: He alleged dog shooter.
Speaker 2: Growing up yeah, and then we just see this boring
Speaker 2: guy that can't can't be sensitive. He's trying so hard
Speaker 2: to be sensitive because to get this woman that he's
Speaker 2: not in love with.
Speaker 7: I feel like it all adds up. It's like everything
Speaker 7: he tells us is like growing up, it was not okay,
Speaker 7: And so to me, I'm like, okay, it doesn't excuse
Speaker 7: everything that's done. But everything to me is like, then.
Speaker 1: Get off TV and get help, get.
Speaker 7: Help, because you're freaking us all out.
Speaker 1: You're a girlfriend.
Speaker 7: Bomber bro get off my screen.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 7: Help I missed.
Speaker 2: We read the murdered somebody after the animal killing to
Speaker 2: serial killer pipeline is clear.
Speaker 1: Yes, we've heard, We've seen Daylight already allegedly allegedly that
Speaker 1: he's like that he's he's mistreated women.
Speaker 3: And this is came out also on Reddit legil.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like it was like very quickly after. I mean
Speaker 5: it was like right away as the show, people were like, oh, that.
Speaker 3: Guy's not Early Days. It came out not like Final
Speaker 3: two Early Days.
Speaker 2: That one guy called the what's his name Steve Hollywood,
Speaker 2: Steve Reality, Steve Hollywood, Steve is in yacht Rock. But
Speaker 2: but yeah, the other yeah, he's in that, but reality
Speaker 2: Steve h He You know, Alicia, my girlfriend told me
Speaker 2: that she knew the outcome of this season, like before
Speaker 2: the season even began because of him. Really, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I would you know? And she kept the secret the whole.
Speaker 1: Season for her she has to.
Speaker 2: I would be that upset about it. I mean, we
Speaker 2: came in, we came home late, we came home during
Speaker 2: the show last night. We got home at like ten
Speaker 2: twenty something like that, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to wait till tomorrow. I'm just let's just dive in.
Speaker 2: So we turned it on in the fucking Devin, you know,
Speaker 2: seeing what's happening. He's like, no shit. But she already knew.
Speaker 4: She already knew was already broke up.
Speaker 1: Sorry did she know? Did she know they broke up?
Speaker 3: Well, she knew he was the one since the very beginning.
Speaker 5: I looked it up to you to be like, was
Speaker 5: this known that they broke up? And people were saying, no, wow, no.
Speaker 2: I believe that. I believe that. But she knew he
Speaker 2: was going to be the one.
Speaker 1: And I just say, this is the dress for when
Speaker 1: it's hot. This photos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they also just to shoot it too far
Speaker 2: in advance, Like, what is that about?
Speaker 5: Okay, I think it's so they can manipulate the edit,
Speaker 5: all right, so let's get to.
Speaker 2: They do it with big Brother with footage that just
Speaker 2: happened two days prior, Like, it's not impossible.
Speaker 5: That was maybe a little more realistic, to be honest,
Speaker 5: because this one's very manipulative.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we are, so here's she's She's going to Devin.
Speaker 1: She's like so then Neil Lane gets an applause break
Speaker 1: from the audience. He looks, He's never looked so good.
Speaker 1: He's no longer the corpse, He's back to life.
Speaker 3: Is that it was bizarre good.
Speaker 2: He looked comparatively, still looks like an old guy.
Speaker 7: He was sitting next to Joan in the audest.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm like, twist, I know he was Joe in
Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelet.
Speaker 7: They looked like a couple and him and Kelsey's dad
Speaker 7: was not sitting to her, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, dude, okay, so we'll we'll get there. So so
Speaker 1: she's always she's always let guys dictate the terms. I
Speaker 1: was write at least about this. I guess that she
Speaker 1: proposed I was right about that. So she's like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to propose to Devin. I want him to know
Speaker 1: that why I chose him, and I want him to
Speaker 1: know that I'm going to choose him every day. And
Speaker 1: the mom would Paul move? Would you like do men
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 2: Who cares? If you're in love?
Speaker 3: That just both?
Speaker 1: Do you think that was also? I was wondering if
Speaker 1: he got emasculated.
Speaker 3: I think he did.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh you got His first response is
Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, you pulled one over on me,
Speaker 2: you know, like.
Speaker 1: He looked almost like, uh, well.
Speaker 2: This can never be fixed. Our story is now that
Speaker 2: you propose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did him wouldn't like Laura Lopchez proposed to Mike,
Speaker 1: but he's not a week and he loved it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a man, Yes on both sides.
Speaker 3: Who cares?
Speaker 8: Who?
Speaker 5: I just wondered if it was a weak man who
Speaker 5: failed a masculine I that he looked emasculated.
Speaker 2: He wanted to be.
Speaker 4: You know, I noticed that.
Speaker 2: He wanted to be U, you know, a romantic hero
Speaker 2: on television proposed. He had a whole proposal.
Speaker 1: What do you think you think in a week dude
Speaker 1: would be insecure about that?
Speaker 6: Probably the thing I felt in that moment when she goes,
Speaker 6: I can't let you propose. He kind of went he
Speaker 6: kind of like it was a weird face he made,
Speaker 6: and I thought from moment that it looked like relief
Speaker 6: just for a moment.
Speaker 3: She did good.
Speaker 6: I made it to the last two, but I don't
Speaker 6: actually have I can be.
Speaker 2: The producers got her to do a whole minute of
Speaker 2: oh my god, you know this this. Have you ever
Speaker 2: seen the show of the Wall. At the end of
Speaker 2: the Wall, they do this thing where they you don't
Speaker 2: know the results, and the two people talk for a
Speaker 2: while without telling each other what they did. And it's
Speaker 2: just infuriating that they would do it on this show
Speaker 2: because it's like, clearly she wouldn't just go out there,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a bunch of things that make him
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna break up with him and then I'm
Speaker 2: gonna propose. That was not her plan. No, she was
Speaker 2: definitely told you gotta you gotta make this take a while.
Speaker 2: So she just kept saying that because he was like
Speaker 2: really starting to like look like he was preparing to
Speaker 2: be told we're not gonna do this. Yeah. So then
Speaker 2: when she when he finally found out she was proposing
Speaker 2: to him. He's like, okay, like a guy had been
Speaker 2: pranked who will never get over it.
Speaker 1: Yes, agree to agree, Agree to agree, doggie gee. Okay.
Speaker 1: So then so then she's like, you know, the mom
Speaker 1: is looking pissed in the audience, and they go, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna see the proposal. Jesse stops. The mom is crying.
Speaker 1: Jen comes out. Jen's no, the mom's not crying. The
Speaker 1: mom is stone faced. Jen is crying. At first, I
Speaker 1: was like, is this a bit part of me? Like
Speaker 1: this was a bit For a second, I was like,
Speaker 1: did he die? Like, what the fuck happened? She started?
Speaker 6: Oh where she loses it at that moment where she
Speaker 6: like can't even start talking.
Speaker 2: What happy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Literally, and she's like it's been in her card.
Speaker 3: Did something?
Speaker 1: I literally was like I thought. I was like, are
Speaker 1: they playing a prank on us? I was so confused.
Speaker 1: So she starts sobbing. It's been a hard couple of months.
Speaker 1: I left engaged. It was the happiest day of my life.
Speaker 1: We were in we left Hawaii, and it's just been
Speaker 1: a different person ever since he pulled away. He put
Speaker 1: in no effort, He was inconsistent, he stopped calling me
Speaker 1: as much. He he was not introducing me to his family.
Speaker 1: He was. I was like, he was I was secondary
Speaker 1: in his life. I was completely secondary. We had a
Speaker 1: happy couple planned. He broke off the engagement. He told
Speaker 1: me he didn't love me anymore. He told me he
Speaker 1: regretted getting engaged. He was he wasn't sure he was
Speaker 1: we're in love. He said that he felt pressured into engagement.
Speaker 1: He checked out. So then outcomes Devin. They did the conversation.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, we both wanted the conversation off camera.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, you started, you broke up with me,
Speaker 1: and then you started following Maria on Instagram the day
Speaker 1: after you broke up with me. You completely invalidated our
Speaker 1: entire relationship. He's like. He's like, he's yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: having a hard time. She's like, are you you're having
Speaker 1: a hard time since the breakup? You went clubbing with Jeremy.
Speaker 1: Cut to Jeremy. She's like, what happened. He's like, he
Speaker 1: starts gaslighting her, he starts crying. He's like, and then
Speaker 1: he's like, do I have a chance. She starts sobbing, sobbing,
Speaker 1: So then they're like, well, do you want to see
Speaker 1: the proposal? And this was honestly unforgivable.
Speaker 3: This is so weird. This was just a weirdo.
Speaker 1: They said, we weren't going to watch it.
Speaker 6: They said we want approp we felt it would be inappropriate.
Speaker 1: It was honestly the meanest thing when they and her saying,
Speaker 1: they're like, and she said do I have a choice?
Speaker 1: And Jesse made her she didn't have a choice. It
Speaker 1: was truly watching a woman be tortured on film. Yes, literally,
Speaker 1: he was so unkind and as people.
Speaker 5: In the reddit pointed out when they were talking about
Speaker 5: like Joey's breakup or whatever, they're like, Joey is so
Speaker 5: upset by it.
Speaker 1: When Joey he like won't be on stage to watch
Speaker 1: it or something. It was then they made me, they
Speaker 1: made her watch it. He was watching her cry. He
Speaker 1: didn't watch the proposal, and it was a really sweet
Speaker 1: proposal even though he did see No, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: The whole segment was still cut with music and everything,
Speaker 2: like it was the greatest proposal.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least it also showed because he kept
Speaker 1: trying to get He's like, I told you I'm done,
Speaker 1: Like can we stop talking? Like he kept trying to
Speaker 1: like nip it in the bud and then they showed
Speaker 1: like an incredibly sweet proposal, even though he did seem
Speaker 1: about her that she proposed.
Speaker 3: Was that the twist though? Was that the thing that
Speaker 3: Jesse's talking.
Speaker 2: Charge?
Speaker 5: Do you think she pointed out how he was like
Speaker 5: posting on Instagram every week and it is insane, Like
Speaker 5: I looked at his Instagram and every week it would
Speaker 5: be a photo like a screenshot or a photo of
Speaker 5: them too from the show, and I'm just like.
Speaker 3: Just self promoting.
Speaker 1: Weird. Yeah, like that's weird shit, It's weird, like fact,
Speaker 1: doctor Barnanda. He really, I mean, like we when we
Speaker 1: say all.
Speaker 5: These people come here for Instagram followers and for fame,
Speaker 5: and it's like this is it.
Speaker 1: And I would say that he actually felt like somebody
Speaker 1: that wanted his wife. I completely got tricked.
Speaker 2: Would be surprised. A part of his contract with the
Speaker 2: show too, that he has to do a certain amount
Speaker 2: of social media like you know too.
Speaker 1: I mean he could do it differently just photos of him,
Speaker 1: you think.
Speaker 6: But here's here's one thing I will say. He loves
Speaker 6: that he beat all those other male models. I'm the
Speaker 6: testing dadod and and I've never had luck with the ladies,
Speaker 6: and I won. I beat all those dudes. There's yoked
Speaker 6: dudes that Magic Mike all over the place.
Speaker 3: I won.
Speaker 6: He when he was sitting there hang dog. This is
Speaker 6: just another thing where it's like I just feel it
Speaker 6: from him. He's hang Dog. They're showing the proposal and
Speaker 6: I'm feeling from him triumph, like I'm the foil, I'm
Speaker 6: the villain. I won and then I crushed everybody. It's
Speaker 6: like he's like he's like Lex Luthor. He's like a super.
Speaker 1: Villain and he's gonna get laid because he's also been
Speaker 1: called Pete Davidson.
Speaker 6: Well, because now he's Pete Davidson. He's a bad boy.
Speaker 6: You know, he's had a glow up.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. There's still women that will want to
Speaker 1: follow oh yeah, fortunately, yeah a lot. I wish they
Speaker 1: would not because he doesn't deserve it. He's gonna to
Speaker 1: be the next James Taylor.
Speaker 5: I literally was telling my mom about James Taylor this
Speaker 5: morning and like how the.
Speaker 1: Show just flew out. Now Jerry doesn't know about James Taylor.
Speaker 1: Will you tell him? The Lord of James James Talor
Speaker 1: came on and he was Joe Joe's season. He was
Speaker 1: the loser. Yeah, he is a singer. He's a singer.
Speaker 1: He was just kind of like a goofy guy. He
Speaker 1: was like not the whole.
Speaker 5: Guy friends then okay, and he like he didn't win,
Speaker 5: but he got a lot of fame from it. And
Speaker 5: then because he was like the nice guy that never won,
Speaker 5: and then he just became a complete womanizer and then
Speaker 5: he just got arrested for sexual assault.
Speaker 1: He also stormed the capitol him did he storm the cat?
Speaker 4: Didn't he storm allegedly?
Speaker 1: A logically, I think he did.
Speaker 2: That's so funny, somebody, I think I stormed the capitol
Speaker 2: for sure. I think I heard Devin storm the capitol allegedly.
Speaker 3: Maybe Marcus, maybe that's just the trifecta thing.
Speaker 1: And then he said, he goes, can we try to condense?
Speaker 1: Please do? It was just so condescending, and.
Speaker 5: He was like trying to play the victim and trying
Speaker 5: like you're right.
Speaker 1: He was like, we decided that we were gonna be right.
Speaker 1: He was the fuck. And then they showed the thing
Speaker 1: for Joan where they gave us the youngest golden Bachelorette,
Speaker 1: and then Kelsey's dad, America is so horny for him,
Speaker 1: he'd better either win or be the next day. I
Speaker 1: bet he's the next Golden Bee, but it'd be fun
Speaker 1: if he was. He's only fifty nine. He's only fifty seven.
Speaker 1: Fifty seven, he's only fifty.
Speaker 5: Seven, and he thought he had all have their air.
Speaker 5: He had to be getting social Security.
Speaker 1: He also had such a nice speech to her, and
Speaker 1: she didn't quite reciprocate it. Like in the preview, I
Speaker 1: felt like his opener was so grounded and lovely and
Speaker 1: she was like.
Speaker 2: Thanks, well to meet the other guys, yeah, same night.
Speaker 1: But he was adorable. He's a doll.
Speaker 5: But I think I think they should all like they
Speaker 5: should be getting social Security.
Speaker 1: Great agree to Yeah, anyway, he's well. Final thoughts on
Speaker 1: the season. I felt so badly for at least she's
Speaker 1: doing Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was like another thing that I thought
Speaker 2: that Devin. Remember what happened with Gabby when she did
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars. No, that ended their her relationship
Speaker 2: with that guy like it was, you know, he came
Speaker 2: to a couple of tapings and then next thing you know,
Speaker 2: he's gone. Because he has to live in a world
Speaker 2: where his you know, he just got engaged to a
Speaker 2: woman who is just dancing with a much more handsome, talented.
Speaker 3: Skilled, sweet probably you know.
Speaker 2: I mean there was a recent assault issue with one
Speaker 2: of the dancers and Dancing with the Stars, but god
Speaker 2: damn it. And then the lady and the girlfriend his
Speaker 2: girlfriend three days later after her boyfriend or her husband
Speaker 2: was arrested for a sexual for domestic abuse. Uh she
Speaker 2: uh co hosted the hot dog eating contest on Labor
Speaker 2: Day on Netflix show and everyone was like, really, this
Speaker 2: just happened to you. And double days later you're like,
Speaker 2: look at him eat those hot dogs.
Speaker 3: Those Nathan's are really good, though. That's crazy Nathan's. It's
Speaker 3: the compete, Oh what is it?
Speaker 2: Because it's the new one.
Speaker 7: That Chestnut is banned from Nathan because woah a uh
Speaker 7: it's true because he got a plant based sponsor in
Speaker 7: Nathan Beyond here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they banned him. And so then Netflix stepped up
Speaker 2: and said, hey, you can go against Kobyashi, you can
Speaker 2: beat him on let's do Labor Day and let's do
Speaker 2: it live, and they made this whole big thing. So
Speaker 2: Nathan's really got that was that did not work out
Speaker 2: great for Nathan's Wow.
Speaker 7: It's incredible, like he it was at one more like
Speaker 7: Kobaka was at like sixty five, and Joey chest was
Speaker 7: like eighty five eating impossibles.
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnut even stopped eating with like ten seconds fifteen
Speaker 2: seconds left on the clock because he was that far
Speaker 2: ahead of Kobyashi and he was that far ahead of
Speaker 2: his own record.
Speaker 1: Wow, was it was?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but maybe it could have been.
Speaker 7: I was watching it while running on them that.
Speaker 1: Was the problem. That was amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they probably were I like that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is it easier to eat a lot of vegan hot
Speaker 2: dogs than regularly.
Speaker 1: Never had a real hot dog?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But anyway, my point was that Gabby went off and
Speaker 2: just had the time of her life all day. Every
Speaker 2: day they rehearsed forever that show. They're working day and night.
Speaker 2: So their their honeymoon is that she's gone all the
Speaker 2: time with another man, Yeah, constantly touching her. And so
Speaker 2: by the they were broke up, by the time Dancing and.
Speaker 1: Stars was over, they were gonna last anyway.
Speaker 2: So right, but I'm saying Devin would not have been
Speaker 2: able to handle her being she would certainly be unaccessible
Speaker 2: to him and shining and he'd have to just sit there.
Speaker 2: And yeah, they all do it. That's that thing.
Speaker 1: Joey and Joey person Dotton could handle.
Speaker 2: Joey, he's also on this season, should go on to
Speaker 2: and try.
Speaker 1: To have time to be a couple. And how he's
Speaker 1: doing this probably right.
Speaker 2: And also there's less reason for her to be jealous
Speaker 2: of him. Some lady dancers, it's the guy.
Speaker 7: Competing to be like, I'll destroy you.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, this is he's going to call his people,
Speaker 6: his new agents and be like, get me on dancing
Speaker 6: with this.
Speaker 1: I need to crush her to Well, you guys, well
Speaker 1: we really did it, and we've got so many fun
Speaker 1: new reviews. Oh my god, stop, this was a hit.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you all about that. Here we go. Now
Speaker 1: it's just me and the girls talking about reviews. Can
Speaker 1: we just say shout out stops people? And his hot
Speaker 1: voice he had said he has such a hot voice,
Speaker 1: and his he brought and he's like he's a present.
Speaker 1: He's been. He brought me a present and I went
Speaker 1: on a date with him. The next night he picked
Speaker 1: me up on his vest spot. God, you're so when Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually called was acle, but I'm gonna call it
Speaker 1: investment motorcycle scare me. But it was like but that
Speaker 1: name was like how is just acause of it? It
Speaker 1: was my friend like like hearing he like he was
Speaker 1: sweet about Jessica. He sounds like he's very thoughtful and
Speaker 1: he was raised right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I loved to say thing about like who doesn't come
Speaker 5: to a date, Oh my god, without a president and
Speaker 5: you're like American man.
Speaker 1: He smelled honestly, he smelled so good. He is like
Speaker 1: he was like what sapping me? When I was in
Speaker 1: London and he was like, say to my friend, like
Speaker 1: to Jessica, how great was Jessica? She was? We had
Speaker 1: loved it, Oh my god, it was. We wanted to
Speaker 1: do another follow up one from London and then I
Speaker 1: was like losing my voice because we wanted to like
Speaker 1: just tell about the rest of our trip was you know,
Speaker 1: I just also want to say, like it was so fun.
Speaker 1: No Anna, I feel like you do this, but I
Speaker 1: hadn't been on like an adventure trip with my friends
Speaker 1: in a while, like a real stupid and it was
Speaker 1: like we just laughed and laughed and laughed. It was
Speaker 1: I wanted, well, I feel like you and I get
Speaker 1: to do that when we travel, like we get yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're totally doing that. Okay, Okay, here's
Speaker 1: what I wanted. Okay, So I just want to read
Speaker 1: a few reviews and I'll read a few comments from Instagram.
Speaker 1: From the stop this episode, this one was so everybody
Speaker 1: wants him to be Rookie of the Year. I think
Speaker 1: we should zoom one Golden Bachelor episode with Jessica and
Speaker 1: Stothis because I'm going to be filming in Charleston, so
Speaker 1: we could give send, we could get him a link,
Speaker 1: make stothus uchut the time to figure out. But I
Speaker 1: feel like he would do it in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night. He could do it in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night. He's young. Oh he's young. Yeah, who knows?
Speaker 1: He could be any age he's it could be all ages. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's a review, five star Take the show on
Speaker 1: a world tour. Honestly, longtime listener, first time reviewer. I
Speaker 1: finally had to pop my review writing Cherry and come
Speaker 1: here to say that I love will you accept this Rose?
Speaker 1: And I need the show to continue. It's international travel
Speaker 1: so I can hear art and find male suitors from
Speaker 1: around the globe to give their perspective on love culture
Speaker 1: and reality TV dating. Including Stathis was the best decision
Speaker 1: on a podcast that is full of great decisions shifts,
Speaker 1: kiss ladies, and keep doing the Lord's work here and abroad. Opa,
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Speaker 1: Stuthis back as a regular. Best episode ever. Loved the
Speaker 1: unfiltered takes. Uh we got two stars. Updating my review
Speaker 1: from Janew's edit. Why is the latest episode a complete
Speaker 1: recap of some random trip to grease? I didn't tune
Speaker 1: in for this man because I'm in Greece and it's
Speaker 1: a twelve hour time difference, and we put out three
Speaker 1: thousand episodes. There's one that's like, yeah, we still I
Speaker 1: could have easily just fucking skipped a week because I'm traveling,
Speaker 1: Like fuck you, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah five here's
Speaker 1: another one. By the way, you sound like.
Speaker 7: A drag you can't enjoy anything.
Speaker 1: Then go listen to some other bachelor podcasts. Five stars,
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Speaker 1: So that was that was him at work. That was
Speaker 1: him at work. So they dressed them there like they're
Speaker 1: in a cult. It's like drapey linen cult clothes with
Speaker 1: like a knot in the front. It was incredible.
Speaker 7: I posted the photos on our Facebook page.
Speaker 1: Yes so good, and so you can also see on
Speaker 1: my Instagram. People's comments on Instagram were so fucking funny. Okay,
Speaker 1: well I'll just read a few comments on Instagram. This
Speaker 1: episode was gold and now to log onto instance see
Speaker 1: the pis kit to go with it. Can't get any
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Speaker 1: this is so cute. This was a great episode. I
Speaker 1: could listen to you ladies explaining the Bachelorette and the
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Speaker 1: never loved a piece of media more than I love this.
Speaker 1: I mean, just like just so fun. Here's one final
Speaker 1: one h bird Uh. This episode was everything. It was
Speaker 1: so reminiscent of my travels with girlfriends and meeting cute
Speaker 1: guys to have vacation with He was lovely guest and
Speaker 1: the accent was fire. I love that somebody went on
Speaker 1: to downgrade their stars. I mean that person's literally would
Speaker 1: a drip they went out of the show. If they
Speaker 1: went out of their way to go to just to
Speaker 1: actually change their reviews about the show. Legit, we gotta
Speaker 1: do it, like, yeah, sorry, we're living our lives. That's
Speaker 1: not what this is. Okay, you guys so much fun.
Speaker 1: Let's go back into tweeted the week. All right, here
Speaker 1: we go. This is the final week. If you win
Speaker 1: tweet or post of the week, you're gonna get not
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Speaker 7: I haven't started yet, but I will. It's on my kindle.
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Speaker 3: Okay, are you guys in a book club or something?
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Speaker 1: here we go. Uh first, first one, This is from
Speaker 1: and you Can. This is from Laura Lysiac. Jonathan should
Speaker 1: run on stage and slap him across the face with
Speaker 1: his big cock.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That was pretty good. This is from
Speaker 1: the watcher at tully Tubo. Okay, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what actually happened between Jen and Devon after Hawaii, but
Speaker 1: seeing her describe what he did and watching her cry,
Speaker 1: have one thing to say to Devin, you dropped your
Speaker 1: crown king. And there's a photo of a trash lid.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That is pretty good.
Speaker 1: This is from what You Shan is what you get?
Speaker 1: Marcus can finally start that family he wants with all
Speaker 1: those pregnant pauses. Brilliant real that's really good. Okay, This
Speaker 1: is from trash Car. At trash Car sixty nine, I
Speaker 1: was rooting for Devon because he was the most average
Speaker 1: man I'd seen on the show. Then I was reminded
Speaker 1: how horrible the average man is. This is from missus
Speaker 1: Wright A Girl without a tat the m Night shamel
Speaker 1: am twist we should have seen coming. Devon sucked the
Speaker 1: whole time. That's pretty good. This is also from trash Car.
Speaker 1: Devon isn't handsome enough to act this way? There I
Speaker 1: said that it is really true.
Speaker 3: A cute Okay, he's a super villain.
Speaker 6: He thinks he's better, he thinks he's smarter than everybody.
Speaker 1: This is from Erica at Erica pitched to visit the
Speaker 1: state of Maine. Hire Sam as the spokesperson for tourism.
Speaker 1: He could switch the phrase to keep the main thing
Speaker 1: the main way God. And then here's the final one
Speaker 1: from Annabanama. Charity and Dowton got a second trip to Greece,
Speaker 1: and Jen got to sit and sob inside her own
Speaker 1: dystopian nightmare. What are your top two? Trash can lid
Speaker 1: and okay, all right, here we go?
Speaker 3: Fine was there was pregnant pause. There was another one.
Speaker 1: Night Sha pregnant pause, Oh.
Speaker 6: Average man, And then I realized how bad the average man.
Speaker 6: I kind of like that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we want pregnant pause and average man. Okay,
Speaker 1: so from what you shan is what you get. Marcus
Speaker 1: can finally start that family he wants with all those
Speaker 1: pregnant pauses and uh trash car at trash Car sixty nine.
Speaker 1: I was rooting for Devin because he was the most
Speaker 1: average man I'd seen on the show. Then I was
Speaker 1: reminded how horrible the average man is. Average man or
Speaker 1: pregnant pause.
Speaker 3: Those are both good. I'm gonna pick average man.
Speaker 1: Okay, Doug, I'm going pregnant, Okay, Doctor.
Speaker 7: P say average man. I was a little triggered by it,
Speaker 7: but I like pregnant Paul.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go pregnant pause. What you shot is
Speaker 1: once she gets Marcus can finally start that family he
Speaker 1: wants with all those pregnant pauses. You win a sleep crown,
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Speaker 1: We're going to the Bellhouse to New York. What is it?
Speaker 3: October fifth, that's right.
Speaker 1: A live show. Also, you can bring your men. I
Speaker 1: will go on a date. We will pick from the audience.
Speaker 1: Bring your men folk. They have to have a job.
Speaker 1: They cannot have headshots, they cannot be aspiring actors or comedians.
Speaker 7: And if they are a founder, we need tax doc.
Speaker 1: We need we need to they earned it. They have
Speaker 1: to earn at least six figures. I would say between
Speaker 1: the ages of thirty two and fifty five. Bring your
Speaker 1: men's Okay, Jerry, what would you like to promote?
Speaker 3: Not a thing? This is a blast.
Speaker 6: I love your soultry voice and it's nice to see you.
Speaker 2: Doug.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, I'm my sultry voice. Are you
Speaker 1: excited to go to New York?
Speaker 3: I can't wait?
Speaker 1: Will you have dinner with us?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay, Doug Benson, what would you like to promote?
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, Doug Loves Movies podcast is still a thing,
Speaker 2: and we're doing eighteenth anniversary episode. Oh Tuesday, Yeah, Tuesday,
Speaker 2: September seventeenth at the Improv in Hollywood.
Speaker 4: That's fun, super fun.
Speaker 1: It's so such a fun. Legal your baby girl is legal. Wow?
Speaker 2: I have to pay child sports. Wow.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty pretty big deal at Doug Lovesmovies dot
Speaker 2: com is where you can get tickets to that and
Speaker 2: all the other stuff I do. I do a monthly
Speaker 2: movie interruption at the Dynasty Typewriter where my friends and I,
Speaker 2: you know, we sit with microphones in the audience. Harden's
Speaker 2: done it.
Speaker 1: It's so fun.
Speaker 2: And I do that once a month at Dynasty Typewriter.
Speaker 1: It's so All of his shows are so you cannot
Speaker 1: go wrong with any of Douglas.
Speaker 2: First Tuesday of every month and step for November. Guess
Speaker 2: why why First Tuesday November is going to be a hellscape?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't want to be doing a little
Speaker 2: comedy show in the theater and walk out to see
Speaker 2: the whole city on fire. I mean, it's gonna Beday
Speaker 2: it goes.
Speaker 7: They'll have.
Speaker 1: Doctor Banana. What would you like to promote?
Speaker 7: You can listen to our Patriarch on which I'm a
Speaker 7: below deck man. Maybe we'll do a special Patreon on
Speaker 7: Triangle of Sadness. I want it's very below deck.
Speaker 1: I want to do that and that. I also want
Speaker 1: to I kind of want to do the Mormon.
Speaker 7: Why we should do the Mormon for sure?
Speaker 1: Okay, that'll be nice. For sure. Okay, kat Money, what
Speaker 1: would you like to promote?
Speaker 5: As always, please go to your local shelter and the
Speaker 5: doctor foster pet. I want to shout out one pet
Speaker 5: in particular. There's a dog from a Purposeful Rescue which
Speaker 5: does a rescue here in Los angelesening PJ.
Speaker 1: Harvey.
Speaker 5: And she is the sweetest you will ever Yeah, she's
Speaker 5: the sweetest dog you will ever meet in your whole
Speaker 5: fucking life. She's like eight or nine, so she's kind
Speaker 5: of an older girl, but like, don't care the old girls.
Speaker 5: My friend foster this dog for a wile, so I
Speaker 5: have to like hang out with her. And holy fuck,
Speaker 5: is this dog?
Speaker 1: What kind of a dog?
Speaker 5: She's like they did a DNA test. She's like every
Speaker 5: dog imaginable. She looks like kind of a rotty mix,
Speaker 5: and she has like this underbite and she is the
Speaker 5: goofiest girl and she is so sweet and she just
Speaker 5: wants your love and the way I love this dog,
Speaker 5: like somebody please adopt that.
Speaker 1: So so we have d m KT the bigger one there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's perfect.
Speaker 7: That's what it's like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's so d.
Speaker 5: M KT money if you want more and fi I
Speaker 5: can send you guys like the link to her, like,
Speaker 5: she's so great and I want to shout her out because.
Speaker 1: She's been in Foster for a while. Yeah, and she's
Speaker 1: a pure delight. Oh my god. And also uh yeah
Speaker 1: and also registered to vote. Okay, well, and I just
Speaker 1: wanted to think, what a fun season we've had, so
Speaker 1: excited to go to New York. We'll be doing well,
Speaker 1: have to out when we're gonna do Golden Draft picks
Speaker 1: that'll be coming up and that'll be soon. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just so so thank you all for everything, and
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. Okay, bye bye. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get all up and you tonight.
Speaker 2: It feels so good.
Speaker 5: I just got one little bush you finger where you
Speaker 5: read this roll?
Speaker 2: Will you read up this roll?
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