WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Hurts the Same? 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.800 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:15.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:18.000 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:23.120 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:27.000 much for that. It's time for the Break on Dallas 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:32.680 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:38.919 bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, December twentieth, 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.320 twenty twenty two, season eighteen, episode number ninety three. Welcome 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.320 to the latest edition of The Break Life from s 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.720 WBC Morrig Studios at the Star. We're presented by mill 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.400 of Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. We're 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.080 entering inching closer to Christmas, and I'm gonna go ahead 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.160 and make an announcement now because it's the last time 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.600 that we didn't have shows on a day. I got 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.160 completely killed on twit and I should have announced it earlier. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.040 We will not have shows this Friday. Yeah, so everybody 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.160 knows we'll not have shows this Friday. We will end 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.880 the shows this week on Thursday. No shows Friday. Then 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.120 we'll be back on Monday to talk about what happens 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.759 on Saturday. So just let everybody know, make sure everybody's 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.920 on the same page. We're all good and we'll see 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.199 you guys for the rest of this week on through 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.240 Thursday and then on Monday. If you'd like some cowboy 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.280 coverage on one oh five three the Fans, there's a 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.640 show that runs from two to seven. It's a great 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.959 show actually called the g Bag Names. Listen every day 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.959 and give us a We're gonna talk plenty of cowboys 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.319 getting ready for this one. So if you miss, if 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.759 you miss, if you you know, we miss everybody here. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.600 But if you want to just talk about some cowboys 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.400 stuff two to seven on Friday, we'll get your cover 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.679 and I will tell you this, Brian, if if you ever, 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.280 if you ever want to your producer Lucius, Yeah, I'm 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.080 such a fan of his. If you ever want to 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.360 bring him along, if you ever want to bring him 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.400 along and just sit in with us, I would love 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.400 to because Lucius is hilarious. Every day I'm listening to 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.200 you guys, I laugh so much listening to that dude 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:06.240 during his LA Live segment. Always funny stuff is Lucius. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.799 Alexander is our producer on the check and he does 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.040 a heck of a job. He really does. Chris is 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:17.480 not funny. Huh you're saying Chris is not funny, Chrissy. Oh, Ben, Sorry, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.000 I don't know what you're talking about. What you're talking about, Well, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.520 you know what, we don't give Beam a segment like 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.560 we give Lucius a segment like they give him as 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.240 Lucius just kind of goes in and does his thing, like, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.440 we don't give Chris any any segments. So maybe we 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:34.639 should give Chris a segment. Never know, you never in 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.639 the off season. Maybe in the off season we ought 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.360 to do a segment for Chris, you know, the Beamer 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.800 or something. I don't know, best stuff, best of them 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.079 all right, um, lest he's all in, all right, let's 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.120 jump in. I do want to talk first about we 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.080 do have a game coming up here. We do. Brian 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.560 has a game later in the show, but let's start 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.280 first with Jerry Jones. He talked this morning on one 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.720 of five to out three of the fan Um. He 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.800 did mention that that Layton Vanderesh could miss a couple 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.639 of games. That being said, I wanted to talk a 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.400 little bit about what that could mean for this team. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:09.080 Obviously these games are somewhat important. I don't know that. 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:13.040 At first, after losing to Jacksonville, my thought was, well, 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.399 maybe these three games are not as important. But then 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.160 we here last night that there's a possibility Jalen Hurts 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.560 doesn't play for the Eagles for a week, two weeks, 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.880 whatever it might be, and so it became a little 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.760 more important, like maybe there is a chance that. Being said, 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:30.200 let's talk about the linebacker position first. What do you 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.160 think is the is the What did you take from 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.480 the game, because I know Jerry mentioned in the in 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.800 the in that same interview that Jacksonville took advantage of 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.520 the fact that Laton vander Esh was out. Once he 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.360 was out, what did you see from that game that 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.840 made you think that, yes, they took advantage of it, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.839 and how those linebackers played for the rest of that game. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.640 I don't think Anthony Barr is a natural linebacker, and 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.280 I think that he's he sits out there in coverage, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.360 he gives up some plays. That's not what he's done 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.320 a lot of Minnesota. He's a he's a versatile guy, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.720 and he's a pass rusher. But I do think that 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.240 he's not as good as Layton Vanderesh is there from 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.480 an awareness standpoint, I don't think Deman Clark is as well, 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.520 and why would he be, you know, being a young rookie. So, um, 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.640 they lose some some stuff there and and he's and 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.480 Layton's had a good year and it's just it's unfortunate 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.919 that that happened. And the injury to his neck scares 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.400 everyone because of his history. Um, but it sounds like 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.440 it's better than it could have been. They're going to 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.920 be cautious with it, but I do feel like he's 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.720 going to be back in time. That's why they're not 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.680 going to go on the outside and get anyone else. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.240 They're going to bring to Moan Clark, you know, not 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.440 bring him up, but you know he'll he'll play Jabril 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.200 Cox might play some there. So I feel like they 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:46.320 are confident in this situation. Yeah. There, that's you know, 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.040 listening to Jerry talk about it this morning, he feels 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.359 like that the problems that they do have at linebacker 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.200 that they're able to handle within house. You know, you 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.600 have guys like Nick was talking about playing out of 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.680 position a little bit. And the one thing that Layton 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:03.400 Vandersch does, he's really he's like a calming effect on 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:07.240 the front seven when they're very, very aggressive in the 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.360 way that they play, you know, the way they would 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.039 get after the passer, and Layton is kind of a 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.480 guy that's there to kind of clean up things. I mean, 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.479 when you know, maybe it's you know, they bust the 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.320 line and he's there to make a tackle. It's only 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:20.960 a gain of four and not a gain of twelve 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.920 or something like that. I mean, he has ability to 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.880 read react when they started going with the counters and 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.599 the reverses and stuff like that. When you get teams 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.080 that are flying, that's why teams do this against the Cowboys. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.400 It's because they're so aggressive up front that they know 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.760 that they're going to get a move in one way, 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.360 they're gonna wall him off, and then the ball is 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.120 going to come back the other way. And the one 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.880 thing that Layton does is he kind of sees through 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.240 all that and he's like, he's not going to get 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.560 fooled on a lot of plays. Whether it's point of attack, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.960 he's fine, or whether the ball goes the other way, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.640 he's fine. So that's what they really really missed in 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.280 this game. I Mean, I feel like with Anthony Barr, 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.200 a veteran guy that doesn't move as well as he 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.760 once did. You know, we haven't really you've seen Anthony 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.840 Barr the rusher, and I don't know if it will 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.239 ever see Anthony Barr the rusher. Right now, he's Anthony 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.680 Bar the linebacker who played very well in the goal 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.120 line stand against the Houston Texans. That's kind of in 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.120 that small space, that's an Anthony Barr type of game. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:17.040 But when it turns into having to the movement and running, 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.159 I don't know if he has the burst and that 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.160 that extra gear that he once had as a player. 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.560 And it's it's clear. I mean, he got caught in 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.080 a bad situation and coverage, you know, for him to 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.200 have to walk out. You know that Jacksonville was able 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.920 to get him to have to cover a slot. You 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.479 know that that in itself right there is when you 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.400 know you kind of shake your head and like, okay, 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.800 how does that happen? How does that? You know, coaches 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.560 are watching it and they're like, oh damn, we got 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.400 Bar in the slot on Kirk. This is gonna be 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:46.880 a you know, and the next you know, it's a 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.640 twenty something yard game. You know. So those are the 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.520 problems that you run into because, like I say, guys 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:56.240 like Layton Vanderish could play. He plays all those different spots, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.360 and he's able to kind of play at such a 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.440 high level because of his intelligence and how he sees it. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.400 So you take that out. Teams take advantage of that well, 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.000 even with the injury, and it's good that it doesn't 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.800 seem like it's gonna keep him out for a very 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.960 long time. But I'm concerned on whether he's going to 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.120 be back back. And last week we were talking about 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:17.679 it on the show, and it's crazy that I mentioned. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.280 I'm like, oh, I think he's finally over that mental 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.560 block catch if you want to call it that way 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.120 that he had after all the injuries he had with 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:29.920 the neck and all that. I think it took him 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.080 a while, and this was the one year where I 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.360 feel he kind of let go of that and started 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:40.080 playing freely and without that just hesitation and just playing 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.920 football without thinking about it. And it concerns me whether 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.760 when he is back on the field, if now because 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.760 he had that on the neck area again, is he 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:56.120 gonna be playing with hesitation and just cautiousness, which is natural. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.840 It's just human nature to do that, you know. It's 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.440 it's hard to get over that It's not that simple. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:05.480 So he concerns me because we've seen how crucial the 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:09.120 way that the linebacker's play is for the run defense. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:13.360 So I'm concerned not just for the little weeks for 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.520 a couple of weeks that he's out, but also when 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.760 he comes back at what level is he gonna really 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.320 be playing at. Talk about Jabril Cox, he is a 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.280 guy that I think coming into this year, a lot 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.680 of fans were excited to maybe see more of him, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.600 and it never really kind of material materialized, even to 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.400 the point where Demon Clark, coming off the injury he did, 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.520 he kind of surpassed him and is getting all of 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.480 those opportunities that everybody, I think, going to your thought, 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.080 Jabril Cox might get. What do we expect to see 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.719 from Jabril Cox now that there is this opening in 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.760 this opportunity. I don't I honestly don't know. I mean, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.520 he didn't impress him enough to not sign Anthony Barr 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.280 and then all, like you said, put Damon Clark out there. 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.240 I feel like he you know, he is. Are some 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.800 linebackers that are closer to defensive ends, and there's some 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.160 linebackers that are closer to safety, and I feel like 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:09.000 He has always been like that, you need to closer 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.839 to safety, you need to be a fast range linebacker 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.040 to play in the SEC, which he did for one year, 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:19.720 but he also did it at North Dakota or to State. Yeah, 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.360 and you can get away with it there. I still 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.199 feel like he's a little bit light to play inside 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:30.200 linebacker in the NFL right now. Um, but that's that's 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.760 just me. And he hasn't, you know, And this might 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.480 be a chance to prove that he can do that. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.360 I mean, Daniel Jones doesn't think he's light because he 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.160 knocked him out in a play. But for the most part, though, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.160 I still feel like he's got some some growth to 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.559 do there. Yeah, Nick has got him nailed. I Mean, 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.640 this guy was kind of a twiner player. I mean, 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.680 but he's two hundred and thirty three pounds or thereabouts, 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.640 and you know, watching him play the one year, he 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.040 was kind of a rusher. You know, he was more 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.120 of an outside linebacker, like a three to four outside linebacker. 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.960 Talk to people in the organization is they're happy with 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.160 how he progresses, and they put him out there and 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.840 they're okay with some of the stuff he does. And 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.360 then he has two or three mistakes in a game 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.080 and they don't want to put him out there anymore. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.080 And so that's the you know, it's one of those 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.520 things where you're like, it's kind of a little bit 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.239 like it's like Kelvin Joseph. You know, it's like, Okay, 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.560 we know we're probably gonna get mistakes, but you got 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.280 to put him out there and find out. You hope 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.760 it doesn't cost you a game, but you're definitely going 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.880 to see him this this week. And you know, I 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.400 don't know if this team, I don't know if this team, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.959 with the linebacker situation it is, if it could morph 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.800 into like a three or four front where you just 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.120 play you know, maybe don't you have these guys that 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.520 really aren't for three linebackers that they're looking more like 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.640 the Jibril Coxes and stuff like that, and you know, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.160 do you you kind of just go with the two 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.560 inside and you know, you maybe do something with one 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.079 of these defensive ends where it's Fowler or somebody like that. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.880 I you know, I don't know. That's I'm kind of 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.600 wondering how you're because they don't have a they don't 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.960 currently have a linebacker on the practice squad. They have 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.839 Luke Gifford, but Luke Gifford is like, really one of 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.760 your better special teams guys, Now, again, are you going 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.079 to sacrifice some of the stuff on special teams to 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.600 get Luke Gifford out there? They don't have anybody's sitting 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.240 on the practice squad that you can say, oh, let's 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.200 elevate him this week and see if if he did. Jefferson, Yeah, 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.040 Malik Jefferson now and again maybe maybe easy. Yeah, I 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.480 think he got a claimed. No, I didn't see him 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.640 going anywhere, so to me, you may still be available. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.880 That's that's where I think that we might see some 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.280 kind of move where, Okay, they bring him back and 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.800 get somebody off the practice squad to make sure they 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.640 have at least some numbers there. Yep, because at one point, 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.480 I mean, I think linebacker was the one position that 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.280 still had some concerns all throughout the season. But just 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.480 in general, looking at the defense as a whole, it 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:01.760 sucks because I'm starting out. I remember feeling very comfortable 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.160 with the roster and feeling like, you know, we got 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:10.080 pretty good depth here, and there's talent in every area. 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.720 There was some talent in somebody, And now you're down 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:17.160 to different bodies, back ups and backups, and it's at 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.280 a point where I feel that the guys and it's 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.959 stuff that's a hard ask for these guys to kind 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.440 of step up to that level, especially in December. So 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.840 it just sucks that it's kind of slowly starting to 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:34.920 drift the other way when we started off so good 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.400 and feeling very very good about the talent in these 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.440 younger guys too. That's the tough part about the NFL, Like, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.720 as the season wears on, you gotta lose guys, and 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.120 right now I think that's the biggest problem with this 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.719 defense is they're losing personnel. They've lost those two of 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.520 their top three cornerbacks, They've now lost a linebacker, they 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.440 lost the defensive tackle they brought in to help them 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.440 stop the run. Like, there are some significant losses that 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.600 they've had, and you might not get some of those 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.640 guys back, you might not get some of them back 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.959 to the playoffs. And so now they're just having to 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.080 figure out how they can make it work without them 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.080 in the short term. And now it's about the offense. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.640 True now it's about the When the five games that 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.040 Cooper Rush played quarterback, your defense was on pointe. And 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.600 now you've got a quarterback, you've got an offensive line 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.640 that's probably better at right tackle. No offense to you, 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.400 Terrence Steel. You proved me wrong all year. I'm just 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.040 saying you're better at right tackle right now. Your offensive 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.840 line as a whole is better. Your running game is 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.240 you can get this thing going. You know, you could 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.320 find ways. I mean, they'll commit to run in the football. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.199 They committed to the point so much last week. You're like, listen, 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.440 you're throwing the ball and you're doing pretty well, you know. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.480 I mean, they'll commit to run in the football if 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.400 they have to, you know. And you know the problem is, 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.200 like say they're chasing this receiver thing. They're trying to 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.440 find somebody. Maybe t Y Hilton is a guy that 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.360 comes in and gets those we talked about the Odell Beckham, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.240 the third and fours, the fourth and threes. You know, 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.480 maybe that's what you're gonna have to lean on this offense. Now. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.280 It's it's all about that. I mean, your defense is 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.440 just too beat up and maybe you could score enough 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.640 points to are all of a sudden on offense. You 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.280 turned that other team into having to throw the football 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.400 and you can find your pass rush again. Yeah, somehow, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.679 some way, you've got to find this pass rush again. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.040 But man, the defense got you to this point to 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.200 where you're in the playoffs. The offense now has to 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.840 do their part to pick up the pieces that the 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:31.240 secondary players. Not defensive backs. I'm talking about your your 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.720 number two guys in certain positions. They've got to step 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.800 up defensive, offensive, just across the board. Well, I mean 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.000 it's happening at running back. Okay, those two. Whoever the 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.320 number two guy is is plas take it for me. Well, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.720 but Michael Gallup is I mean, they got to get 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.840 him more involved. He's got to help CD can't and 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.720 he's getting double team. I mean, you shouldn't be able 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.080 to do that. And another thing too, and I think 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.640 he's a he's a great leader, and he's a he's 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.800 an underappreciated run stopper. But they need more from Tank 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.640 or Darrence Armstrong or something. Jack can't keep doing that 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.360 and you're not getting it at corner. You know. That's 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.160 another thing. If you look at those five games with 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.520 Cooper Rush, I mean, Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown and then 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.800 of course Digs, they were solids never know they weren't solid, 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.000 they were really good at corner. Now that's why you 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.080 got guys home in the rush, right, yeah, yeah, I 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.160 mean because of the fact that you were able to 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.600 hold up on the back end. That's that's like the 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.800 problem there is that Mica and Mica was so close 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.840 that many times in this game got a lot, got 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.320 held a ton and you know what, they just did 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:35.040 not call it, And you got the Cowboys should appreciate 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.320 that more than anything because they didn't call a lot 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.240 in that game, pass interference, none of that stuff. So 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.360 I think it worked out, but but it didn't work 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.040 out for Mica. Would you guys consider it all with 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.560 what we're talking about at linebacker, maybe using Mike at 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.760 linebacker over the next couple weeks until Laton vandrush is back. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.640 I know, you don't love him at linebacker or he's 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.280 you know, I've made a complete switch on that he's 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:03.120 a pass rusher. I mean, just that they got to 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.200 get creative. This is gonna be a weird week because 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.400 you know, you have the Eagles coming in and I 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.920 don't know what the Eagles are gonna what they're gonna 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.600 do so much, you know, I mean, how different psychold 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:16.440 with Gardner Minshew right, they'll still probably have some of 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:20.760 their elements of the run option. I don't I don't 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.600 seeing him do it. I remember at Washington State he 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.800 was a big just thrower. I mean, he's capable scrambler 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.680 and mover or you know, I mean when he was 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.160 in Jacksonville, Heineke type things. Yeah, he can't do it, 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.560 can't do it, but yeah, and they're gonna try. I 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.400 mean they're gonna try. You know. They they they activated 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.440 Dallas Goddard this week. You know, so they're gonna so 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.480 here they got, they got all the wide receivers. They're 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.840 gonna they're gonna try and take advantage of your The 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.240 one thing that they were able to, Yeah, the one 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.240 thing they were able to do was they really rendered 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:56.000 Michael Parsons useless. Because maybe now it's okay, playment, playment linebacker. 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.600 Don't make him have to be read guy on the end, 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.640 you know, put like Hank and you know, or the 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.359 guys on you know, Fouler, those guys. Goldston is another 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.160 guy I mean that, you know. I mean, there's there's options. 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.240 I would play him at linebacker, and then if you 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.040 get to where you can rush the pass or even 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.639 at linebacker, bring him from depth if you have to. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.480 Let's not forget what happened in that Eagles game. He 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.600 wasn't doing a whole lot and they were winning and 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.400 Eagles and I believe that I don't know which one, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.480 but one of those tackles went down because you kept saying, 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.600 if sixty four whatever has to play, it's a problem. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.639 And he came in the second half, second quarter and 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.840 had to play, and Micah exposed them. So that's I 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.720 think the problem with the Eagles is that both their 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.600 tackles were really good. They're they're starting tackles or like 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.840 Pro Bowl level good. And John's yeah, he's not a 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.560 he's not a he's kind of a I'm not saying 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.080 he's not an effective there, but it's it's an all 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.119 day challenge. Well, I also think the other part to 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.600 that is you would just watch that Jacksonville game. The 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.600 Eagles have to be looking at and saying, we may 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.879 not need to run that that style of offense that 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.600 we run with with Hurts. We can literally let minh 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.560 you kind of chop them up with some passes because 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.640 that secondary can't hold up right and we can get 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.960 the ball out quickly enough where we negate the secondary. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.240 I mean, we can negate the pass rush and we 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:15.880 can beat their secondary. So that's the problems. Take Michael 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:20.159 completely out of the game, right, Who do you trust more? Cowboys, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:25.720 defensive line or the linebackers? If MICA's where just put 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.320 him on the side, right, you got him, You got 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.119 him on without him with everybody else, what who do 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.920 you trust more? Is that what you're saying, Yes, defensive line? Yeah, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.680 me too. That's I mean, that's where I think you're 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.400 talking about. It's like, Okay, you got an area where 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:43.600 a linebacker you're missing something. Mica hasn't been as productive 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.320 right now rushing the passer and playing on the line there, 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:51.880 So in this scenario right now, it just makes more 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.640 sense to just put him in linebacker and see how 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.439 much he can help there. Where you're liking I mean 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.000 you're saying no, But I just feel like the defensive 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.320 line that has more talent right now to be able 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.480 to steal, create some type of pressure, or make the 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.240 quarterback a little bit uncomfortable on their own without the 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.640 need of my account, the whole game. If mentions the quarterback, though, 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.520 I gotta get after his ass. I mean you have 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.560 to and and you got to force him into say 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.320 he played the JV game last year, remember the end 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.159 of the year, the JD game. I mean, he is 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.080 going to he is going to make some throws. He 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.760 is going to miss some throws. He is not hurts, 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.080 he's not that ability to run the ball. That's the 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.960 one thing. It takes that that element out. Now it's like, 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.000 you know, to me, it's all about this offense again. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.639