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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, season eighteen, episode number ninety three. Welcome
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Speaker 1: and I will tell you this, Brian, if if you ever,
Speaker 1: if you ever want to your producer Lucius, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: such a fan of his. If you ever want to
Speaker 1: bring him along, if you ever want to bring him
Speaker 1: along and just sit in with us, I would love
Speaker 1: to because Lucius is hilarious. Every day I'm listening to
Speaker 1: you guys, I laugh so much listening to that dude
Speaker 1: during his LA Live segment. Always funny stuff is Lucius.
Speaker 1: Alexander is our producer on the check and he does
Speaker 1: a heck of a job. He really does. Chris is
Speaker 1: not funny. Huh you're saying Chris is not funny, Chrissy. Oh, Ben, Sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. What you're talking about, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, we don't give Beam a segment like
Speaker 1: we give Lucius a segment like they give him as
Speaker 1: Lucius just kind of goes in and does his thing, like,
Speaker 1: we don't give Chris any any segments. So maybe we
Speaker 1: should give Chris a segment. Never know, you never in
Speaker 1: the off season. Maybe in the off season we ought
Speaker 1: to do a segment for Chris, you know, the Beamer
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, best stuff, best of them
Speaker 1: all right, um, lest he's all in, all right, let's
Speaker 1: jump in. I do want to talk first about we
Speaker 1: do have a game coming up here. We do. Brian
Speaker 1: has a game later in the show, but let's start
Speaker 1: first with Jerry Jones. He talked this morning on one
Speaker 1: of five to out three of the fan Um. He
Speaker 1: did mention that that Layton Vanderesh could miss a couple
Speaker 1: of games. That being said, I wanted to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about what that could mean for this team.
Speaker 1: Obviously these games are somewhat important. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: At first, after losing to Jacksonville, my thought was, well,
Speaker 1: maybe these three games are not as important. But then
Speaker 1: we here last night that there's a possibility Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: doesn't play for the Eagles for a week, two weeks,
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and so it became a little
Speaker 1: more important, like maybe there is a chance that. Being said,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the linebacker position first. What do you
Speaker 1: think is the is the What did you take from
Speaker 1: the game, because I know Jerry mentioned in the in
Speaker 1: the in that same interview that Jacksonville took advantage of
Speaker 1: the fact that Laton vander Esh was out. Once he
Speaker 1: was out, what did you see from that game that
Speaker 1: made you think that, yes, they took advantage of it,
Speaker 1: and how those linebackers played for the rest of that game.
Speaker 1: I don't think Anthony Barr is a natural linebacker, and
Speaker 1: I think that he's he sits out there in coverage,
Speaker 1: he gives up some plays. That's not what he's done
Speaker 1: a lot of Minnesota. He's a he's a versatile guy,
Speaker 1: and he's a pass rusher. But I do think that
Speaker 1: he's not as good as Layton Vanderesh is there from
Speaker 1: an awareness standpoint, I don't think Deman Clark is as well,
Speaker 1: and why would he be, you know, being a young rookie. So, um,
Speaker 1: they lose some some stuff there and and he's and
Speaker 1: Layton's had a good year and it's just it's unfortunate
Speaker 1: that that happened. And the injury to his neck scares
Speaker 1: everyone because of his history. Um, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: it's better than it could have been. They're going to
Speaker 1: be cautious with it, but I do feel like he's
Speaker 1: going to be back in time. That's why they're not
Speaker 1: going to go on the outside and get anyone else.
Speaker 1: They're going to bring to Moan Clark, you know, not
Speaker 1: bring him up, but you know he'll he'll play Jabril
Speaker 1: Cox might play some there. So I feel like they
Speaker 1: are confident in this situation. Yeah. There, that's you know,
Speaker 1: listening to Jerry talk about it this morning, he feels
Speaker 1: like that the problems that they do have at linebacker
Speaker 1: that they're able to handle within house. You know, you
Speaker 1: have guys like Nick was talking about playing out of
Speaker 1: position a little bit. And the one thing that Layton
Speaker 1: Vandersch does, he's really he's like a calming effect on
Speaker 1: the front seven when they're very, very aggressive in the
Speaker 1: way that they play, you know, the way they would
Speaker 1: get after the passer, and Layton is kind of a
Speaker 1: guy that's there to kind of clean up things. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you know, maybe it's you know, they bust the
Speaker 1: line and he's there to make a tackle. It's only
Speaker 1: a gain of four and not a gain of twelve
Speaker 1: or something like that. I mean, he has ability to
Speaker 1: read react when they started going with the counters and
Speaker 1: the reverses and stuff like that. When you get teams
Speaker 1: that are flying, that's why teams do this against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It's because they're so aggressive up front that they know
Speaker 1: that they're going to get a move in one way,
Speaker 1: they're gonna wall him off, and then the ball is
Speaker 1: going to come back the other way. And the one
Speaker 1: thing that Layton does is he kind of sees through
Speaker 1: all that and he's like, he's not going to get
Speaker 1: fooled on a lot of plays. Whether it's point of attack,
Speaker 1: he's fine, or whether the ball goes the other way,
Speaker 1: he's fine. So that's what they really really missed in
Speaker 1: this game. I Mean, I feel like with Anthony Barr,
Speaker 1: a veteran guy that doesn't move as well as he
Speaker 1: once did. You know, we haven't really you've seen Anthony
Speaker 1: Barr the rusher, and I don't know if it will
Speaker 1: ever see Anthony Barr the rusher. Right now, he's Anthony
Speaker 1: Bar the linebacker who played very well in the goal
Speaker 1: line stand against the Houston Texans. That's kind of in
Speaker 1: that small space, that's an Anthony Barr type of game.
Speaker 1: But when it turns into having to the movement and running,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the burst and that
Speaker 1: that extra gear that he once had as a player.
Speaker 1: And it's it's clear. I mean, he got caught in
Speaker 1: a bad situation and coverage, you know, for him to
Speaker 1: have to walk out. You know that Jacksonville was able
Speaker 1: to get him to have to cover a slot. You
Speaker 1: know that that in itself right there is when you
Speaker 1: know you kind of shake your head and like, okay,
Speaker 1: how does that happen? How does that? You know, coaches
Speaker 1: are watching it and they're like, oh damn, we got
Speaker 1: Bar in the slot on Kirk. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: a you know, and the next you know, it's a
Speaker 1: twenty something yard game. You know. So those are the
Speaker 1: problems that you run into because, like I say, guys
Speaker 1: like Layton Vanderish could play. He plays all those different spots,
Speaker 1: and he's able to kind of play at such a
Speaker 1: high level because of his intelligence and how he sees it.
Speaker 1: So you take that out. Teams take advantage of that well,
Speaker 1: even with the injury, and it's good that it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like it's gonna keep him out for a very
Speaker 1: long time. But I'm concerned on whether he's going to
Speaker 1: be back back. And last week we were talking about
Speaker 1: it on the show, and it's crazy that I mentioned.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I think he's finally over that mental
Speaker 1: block catch if you want to call it that way
Speaker 1: that he had after all the injuries he had with
Speaker 1: the neck and all that. I think it took him
Speaker 1: a while, and this was the one year where I
Speaker 1: feel he kind of let go of that and started
Speaker 1: playing freely and without that just hesitation and just playing
Speaker 1: football without thinking about it. And it concerns me whether
Speaker 1: when he is back on the field, if now because
Speaker 1: he had that on the neck area again, is he
Speaker 1: gonna be playing with hesitation and just cautiousness, which is natural.
Speaker 1: It's just human nature to do that, you know. It's
Speaker 1: it's hard to get over that It's not that simple.
Speaker 1: So he concerns me because we've seen how crucial the
Speaker 1: way that the linebacker's play is for the run defense.
Speaker 1: So I'm concerned not just for the little weeks for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks that he's out, but also when
Speaker 1: he comes back at what level is he gonna really
Speaker 1: be playing at. Talk about Jabril Cox, he is a
Speaker 1: guy that I think coming into this year, a lot
Speaker 1: of fans were excited to maybe see more of him,
Speaker 1: and it never really kind of material materialized, even to
Speaker 1: the point where Demon Clark, coming off the injury he did,
Speaker 1: he kind of surpassed him and is getting all of
Speaker 1: those opportunities that everybody, I think, going to your thought,
Speaker 1: Jabril Cox might get. What do we expect to see
Speaker 1: from Jabril Cox now that there is this opening in
Speaker 1: this opportunity. I don't I honestly don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't impress him enough to not sign Anthony Barr
Speaker 1: and then all, like you said, put Damon Clark out there.
Speaker 1: I feel like he you know, he is. Are some
Speaker 1: linebackers that are closer to defensive ends, and there's some
Speaker 1: linebackers that are closer to safety, and I feel like
Speaker 1: He has always been like that, you need to closer
Speaker 1: to safety, you need to be a fast range linebacker
Speaker 1: to play in the SEC, which he did for one year,
Speaker 1: but he also did it at North Dakota or to State. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can get away with it there. I still
Speaker 1: feel like he's a little bit light to play inside
Speaker 1: linebacker in the NFL right now. Um, but that's that's
Speaker 1: just me. And he hasn't, you know, And this might
Speaker 1: be a chance to prove that he can do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Daniel Jones doesn't think he's light because he
Speaker 1: knocked him out in a play. But for the most part, though,
Speaker 1: I still feel like he's got some some growth to
Speaker 1: do there. Yeah, Nick has got him nailed. I Mean,
Speaker 1: this guy was kind of a twiner player. I mean,
Speaker 1: but he's two hundred and thirty three pounds or thereabouts,
Speaker 1: and you know, watching him play the one year, he
Speaker 1: was kind of a rusher. You know, he was more
Speaker 1: of an outside linebacker, like a three to four outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: Talk to people in the organization is they're happy with
Speaker 1: how he progresses, and they put him out there and
Speaker 1: they're okay with some of the stuff he does. And
Speaker 1: then he has two or three mistakes in a game
Speaker 1: and they don't want to put him out there anymore.
Speaker 1: And so that's the you know, it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where you're like, it's kind of a little bit
Speaker 1: like it's like Kelvin Joseph. You know, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we know we're probably gonna get mistakes, but you got
Speaker 1: to put him out there and find out. You hope
Speaker 1: it doesn't cost you a game, but you're definitely going
Speaker 1: to see him this this week. And you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this team, I don't know if this team,
Speaker 1: with the linebacker situation it is, if it could morph
Speaker 1: into like a three or four front where you just
Speaker 1: play you know, maybe don't you have these guys that
Speaker 1: really aren't for three linebackers that they're looking more like
Speaker 1: the Jibril Coxes and stuff like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: do you you kind of just go with the two
Speaker 1: inside and you know, you maybe do something with one
Speaker 1: of these defensive ends where it's Fowler or somebody like that.
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know. That's I'm kind of
Speaker 1: wondering how you're because they don't have a they don't
Speaker 1: currently have a linebacker on the practice squad. They have
Speaker 1: Luke Gifford, but Luke Gifford is like, really one of
Speaker 1: your better special teams guys, Now, again, are you going
Speaker 1: to sacrifice some of the stuff on special teams to
Speaker 1: get Luke Gifford out there? They don't have anybody's sitting
Speaker 1: on the practice squad that you can say, oh, let's
Speaker 1: elevate him this week and see if if he did. Jefferson, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Malik Jefferson now and again maybe maybe easy. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he got a claimed. No, I didn't see him
Speaker 1: going anywhere, so to me, you may still be available.
Speaker 1: That's that's where I think that we might see some
Speaker 1: kind of move where, Okay, they bring him back and
Speaker 1: get somebody off the practice squad to make sure they
Speaker 1: have at least some numbers there. Yep, because at one point,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think linebacker was the one position that
Speaker 1: still had some concerns all throughout the season. But just
Speaker 1: in general, looking at the defense as a whole, it
Speaker 1: sucks because I'm starting out. I remember feeling very comfortable
Speaker 1: with the roster and feeling like, you know, we got
Speaker 1: pretty good depth here, and there's talent in every area.
Speaker 1: There was some talent in somebody, And now you're down
Speaker 1: to different bodies, back ups and backups, and it's at
Speaker 1: a point where I feel that the guys and it's
Speaker 1: stuff that's a hard ask for these guys to kind
Speaker 1: of step up to that level, especially in December. So
Speaker 1: it just sucks that it's kind of slowly starting to
Speaker 1: drift the other way when we started off so good
Speaker 1: and feeling very very good about the talent in these
Speaker 1: younger guys too. That's the tough part about the NFL, Like,
Speaker 1: as the season wears on, you gotta lose guys, and
Speaker 1: right now I think that's the biggest problem with this
Speaker 1: defense is they're losing personnel. They've lost those two of
Speaker 1: their top three cornerbacks, They've now lost a linebacker, they
Speaker 1: lost the defensive tackle they brought in to help them
Speaker 1: stop the run. Like, there are some significant losses that
Speaker 1: they've had, and you might not get some of those
Speaker 1: guys back, you might not get some of them back
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. And so now they're just having to
Speaker 1: figure out how they can make it work without them
Speaker 1: in the short term. And now it's about the offense.
Speaker 1: True now it's about the When the five games that
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush played quarterback, your defense was on pointe. And
Speaker 1: now you've got a quarterback, you've got an offensive line
Speaker 1: that's probably better at right tackle. No offense to you,
Speaker 1: Terrence Steel. You proved me wrong all year. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying you're better at right tackle right now. Your offensive
Speaker 1: line as a whole is better. Your running game is
Speaker 1: you can get this thing going. You know, you could
Speaker 1: find ways. I mean, they'll commit to run in the football.
Speaker 1: They committed to the point so much last week. You're like, listen,
Speaker 1: you're throwing the ball and you're doing pretty well, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll commit to run in the football if
Speaker 1: they have to, you know. And you know the problem is,
Speaker 1: like say they're chasing this receiver thing. They're trying to
Speaker 1: find somebody. Maybe t Y Hilton is a guy that
Speaker 1: comes in and gets those we talked about the Odell Beckham,
Speaker 1: the third and fours, the fourth and threes. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's what you're gonna have to lean on this offense. Now.
Speaker 1: It's it's all about that. I mean, your defense is
Speaker 1: just too beat up and maybe you could score enough
Speaker 1: points to are all of a sudden on offense. You
Speaker 1: turned that other team into having to throw the football
Speaker 1: and you can find your pass rush again. Yeah, somehow,
Speaker 1: some way, you've got to find this pass rush again.
Speaker 1: But man, the defense got you to this point to
Speaker 1: where you're in the playoffs. The offense now has to
Speaker 1: do their part to pick up the pieces that the
Speaker 1: secondary players. Not defensive backs. I'm talking about your your
Speaker 1: number two guys in certain positions. They've got to step
Speaker 1: up defensive, offensive, just across the board. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: it's happening at running back. Okay, those two. Whoever the
Speaker 1: number two guy is is plas take it for me. Well,
Speaker 1: but Michael Gallup is I mean, they got to get
Speaker 1: him more involved. He's got to help CD can't and
Speaker 1: he's getting double team. I mean, you shouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to do that. And another thing too, and I think
Speaker 1: he's a he's a great leader, and he's a he's
Speaker 1: an underappreciated run stopper. But they need more from Tank
Speaker 1: or Darrence Armstrong or something. Jack can't keep doing that
Speaker 1: and you're not getting it at corner. You know. That's
Speaker 1: another thing. If you look at those five games with
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, I mean, Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown and then
Speaker 1: of course Digs, they were solids never know they weren't solid,
Speaker 1: they were really good at corner. Now that's why you
Speaker 1: got guys home in the rush, right, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean because of the fact that you were able to
Speaker 1: hold up on the back end. That's that's like the
Speaker 1: problem there is that Mica and Mica was so close
Speaker 1: that many times in this game got a lot, got
Speaker 1: held a ton and you know what, they just did
Speaker 1: not call it, And you got the Cowboys should appreciate
Speaker 1: that more than anything because they didn't call a lot
Speaker 1: in that game, pass interference, none of that stuff. So
Speaker 1: I think it worked out, but but it didn't work
Speaker 1: out for Mica. Would you guys consider it all with
Speaker 1: what we're talking about at linebacker, maybe using Mike at
Speaker 1: linebacker over the next couple weeks until Laton vandrush is back.
Speaker 1: I know, you don't love him at linebacker or he's
Speaker 1: you know, I've made a complete switch on that he's
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. I mean, just that they got to
Speaker 1: get creative. This is gonna be a weird week because
Speaker 1: you know, you have the Eagles coming in and I
Speaker 1: don't know what the Eagles are gonna what they're gonna
Speaker 1: do so much, you know, I mean, how different psychold
Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew right, they'll still probably have some of
Speaker 1: their elements of the run option. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: seeing him do it. I remember at Washington State he
Speaker 1: was a big just thrower. I mean, he's capable scrambler
Speaker 1: and mover or you know, I mean when he was
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, Heineke type things. Yeah, he can't do it,
Speaker 1: can't do it, but yeah, and they're gonna try. I
Speaker 1: mean they're gonna try. You know. They they they activated
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard this week. You know, so they're gonna so
Speaker 1: here they got, they got all the wide receivers. They're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna try and take advantage of your The
Speaker 1: one thing that they were able to, Yeah, the one
Speaker 1: thing they were able to do was they really rendered
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons useless. Because maybe now it's okay, playment, playment linebacker.
Speaker 1: Don't make him have to be read guy on the end,
Speaker 1: you know, put like Hank and you know, or the
Speaker 1: guys on you know, Fouler, those guys. Goldston is another
Speaker 1: guy I mean that, you know. I mean, there's there's options.
Speaker 1: I would play him at linebacker, and then if you
Speaker 1: get to where you can rush the pass or even
Speaker 1: at linebacker, bring him from depth if you have to.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget what happened in that Eagles game. He
Speaker 1: wasn't doing a whole lot and they were winning and
Speaker 1: Eagles and I believe that I don't know which one,
Speaker 1: but one of those tackles went down because you kept saying,
Speaker 1: if sixty four whatever has to play, it's a problem.
Speaker 1: And he came in the second half, second quarter and
Speaker 1: had to play, and Micah exposed them. So that's I
Speaker 1: think the problem with the Eagles is that both their
Speaker 1: tackles were really good. They're they're starting tackles or like
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level good. And John's yeah, he's not a
Speaker 1: he's not a he's kind of a I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's not an effective there, but it's it's an all
Speaker 1: day challenge. Well, I also think the other part to
Speaker 1: that is you would just watch that Jacksonville game. The
Speaker 1: Eagles have to be looking at and saying, we may
Speaker 1: not need to run that that style of offense that
Speaker 1: we run with with Hurts. We can literally let minh
Speaker 1: you kind of chop them up with some passes because
Speaker 1: that secondary can't hold up right and we can get
Speaker 1: the ball out quickly enough where we negate the secondary.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can negate the pass rush and we
Speaker 1: can beat their secondary. So that's the problems. Take Michael
Speaker 1: completely out of the game, right, Who do you trust more? Cowboys,
Speaker 1: defensive line or the linebackers? If MICA's where just put
Speaker 1: him on the side, right, you got him, You got
Speaker 1: him on without him with everybody else, what who do
Speaker 1: you trust more? Is that what you're saying, Yes, defensive line? Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. That's I mean, that's where I think you're
Speaker 1: talking about. It's like, Okay, you got an area where
Speaker 1: a linebacker you're missing something. Mica hasn't been as productive
Speaker 1: right now rushing the passer and playing on the line there,
Speaker 1: So in this scenario right now, it just makes more
Speaker 1: sense to just put him in linebacker and see how
Speaker 1: much he can help there. Where you're liking I mean
Speaker 1: you're saying no, But I just feel like the defensive
Speaker 1: line that has more talent right now to be able
Speaker 1: to steal, create some type of pressure, or make the
Speaker 1: quarterback a little bit uncomfortable on their own without the
Speaker 1: need of my account, the whole game. If mentions the quarterback, though,
Speaker 1: I gotta get after his ass. I mean you have
Speaker 1: to and and you got to force him into say
Speaker 1: he played the JV game last year, remember the end
Speaker 1: of the year, the JD game. I mean, he is
Speaker 1: going to he is going to make some throws. He
Speaker 1: is going to miss some throws. He is not hurts,
Speaker 1: he's not that ability to run the ball. That's the
Speaker 1: one thing. It takes that that element out. Now it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, to me, it's all about this offense again.
Speaker 1: Score enough points and put pressure on them to have
Speaker 1: to score along with you, you know, make guard make
Speaker 1: if you can't win a game with your quarterback against
Speaker 1: Gardner mentioned and it might be just because of the
Speaker 1: the secondary for the Eagles is damn good. They can cover.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If you ask me, like, what's the
Speaker 1: most kind of underrated thing about the Eagles and we
Speaker 1: get into that, I'm gonna tell you it's their secondary.
Speaker 1: So you know you're gonna have to find a way
Speaker 1: to win in that game. And you talk about getting
Speaker 1: after Gardner minshew, Yeah, but it's also going to be
Speaker 1: about can you you know, are you going to let
Speaker 1: them run the ball and let them be in second
Speaker 1: and two and second and three, all day finding them.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at wild cat package is like, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about all that kind of stuff just to take advantage
Speaker 1: of a poor Dallas Runde. Yeah, the Cowboy fans that
Speaker 1: are rubbing their hands together like, oh okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: don't forget Davis Mills and Jeff Drisco carved him up
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. This guy can kind of
Speaker 1: do it too. But he's a backup quarterback. He is,
Speaker 1: but but he's had some success as a backup. And
Speaker 1: that's the part I think that fans have to be
Speaker 1: aware of. This is not your typical backup quarterback that
Speaker 1: you just throw out there. And exactly it's their equipment.
Speaker 1: Stuff is bringing extra boxes to this game. And I
Speaker 1: say that, I mean they've got little hats that have
Speaker 1: a Eagles logo on a an NFC East champions. They
Speaker 1: would love to open those boxes on the Cowboys sideline
Speaker 1: and they can. I mean, it's gonna be a tough game.
Speaker 1: This is this is going to be a really play
Speaker 1: doesn't Yeah, all right, we're gonna take our first back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. We got a game from Brian
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Speaker 1: I go back to you with this one. All right,
Speaker 1: it's the second time we've heard Kellen Moore say that
Speaker 1: he needs to get Michael Gallup more involved. Is that
Speaker 1: on him or the player? That's a good question. Brian
Speaker 1: doesn't bring questions that aren't. Yeah, I would say I
Speaker 1: would say that's probably more on the offensive coordinator. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to use the example of what happened on
Speaker 1: third and ten in this last game. Jerry actually mentioned
Speaker 1: it this morning and Sean and RJ on on the
Speaker 1: Fans Morning they were talking I don't. I think they
Speaker 1: kind of missed what he was saying. They were talking
Speaker 1: about the fact that he didn't really want to comment
Speaker 1: about the decision to go to throw it right down.
Speaker 1: I really thought the point was what he said after that,
Speaker 1: because he started talking about it's not really so much
Speaker 1: that they decided to pass, it's how you decide to
Speaker 1: pass and who you're throwing the ball too. I totally
Speaker 1: agree on that, and that to me said said everything,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it on the show yesterday. I
Speaker 1: didn't have as much of a problem with the fact
Speaker 1: that is, if you want to be aggressive, be aggressive.
Speaker 1: But there are ways to be aggressive that are probably
Speaker 1: more more have a greater chance of success than that,
Speaker 1: you know, throwing a fifty fifty ball to Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: So back to your point, if if you're no in
Speaker 1: my opinion on this team, when it comes to receivers
Speaker 1: who have had the most experienced catching deep balls and
Speaker 1: doing it well, I think Michael Gallup is right up
Speaker 1: there at the top of the list. Contorning bodies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the drawing back pass interference exactly, the fact that you're
Speaker 1: going to get in that situation, you're gonna take that
Speaker 1: kind of chance to be risked. I mean to say,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna go for the win. You should have
Speaker 1: put your best guy out there. They did not. That
Speaker 1: says to me they're not using him enough, They're not
Speaker 1: thinking about him enough to use his skills the right way. Handbar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think it's on Kellen and he.
Speaker 1: I think having Michael Gallup on the team has been
Speaker 1: a waste for the Cowboys. It has because you don't
Speaker 1: use him. You've literally that's your second guy and you
Speaker 1: have not There are times I forget about Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: and I should not forget about him ever. And it's
Speaker 1: not like teams are just completely covering all the time
Speaker 1: and like, oh they're taking him out. No, it's not
Speaker 1: that either. So it's just very frustrating when he does
Speaker 1: make plays that you're like, yes, that's Michael Gallut. That
Speaker 1: is why he's on this team because he has talent
Speaker 1: and he's very athletic and talented, but you don't find
Speaker 1: ways to use him. So I think that definitely comes
Speaker 1: down to Kellen Moore and what he's doing and not
Speaker 1: being able to kind of just give him chances and
Speaker 1: create opportunities for a guy like Michael Gallup. Nick I
Speaker 1: couldn't disagree more with both of them. I put it
Speaker 1: on Michael Gallup, get open, get open, make plays, be
Speaker 1: a ten million dollars a year guy, show some dog.
Speaker 1: That's something that I think that needs to happen a
Speaker 1: little bit more with him. So I get it. There's
Speaker 1: times where I think they could they could use him
Speaker 1: a little bit more. And maybe maybe also when people
Speaker 1: forgetting too maybe it's Dak also because Dak loves to
Speaker 1: throw to the guy who's open, and sometimes that's not
Speaker 1: always the case. And Michael Gallup has proven that he
Speaker 1: can make some tough catch. It's probably better and it's
Speaker 1: definitely on the sideline. But I still I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: this all. This isn't one game, this is a couple games.
Speaker 1: I put this on Michael Gallup as well. Let's be clear,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying all the blames. You got to choose
Speaker 1: one or two. Then then to me, that was an
Speaker 1: example of why, Yeah, you had an opportunity to use
Speaker 1: him in a critical situation where he is the best
Speaker 1: that you have on your team at this particular role,
Speaker 1: and you chose that to And this is for me,
Speaker 1: I like Michael Gallup a lot, but I as a person,
Speaker 1: but as a as a player and as a receiver,
Speaker 1: there's spent some times where I just kind of questioned,
Speaker 1: like the dog the foxhole type guy in him, and
Speaker 1: and and I think he's a great teammate, and sometimes
Speaker 1: that can be bad, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I mean there's just that one game I guess where
Speaker 1: he said that that I just don't I don't love.
Speaker 1: So I feel like third or four, you gotta want
Speaker 1: to be that guy to go make some place, and
Speaker 1: he he does at times. But I never liked the signing.
Speaker 1: I didn't like. I didn't like the thing. And I
Speaker 1: agree with your point that you're making right now, but
Speaker 1: to me, it's like that's okay, that's done, We're over it,
Speaker 1: over it. That's the guy you decided to go with
Speaker 1: you sign He's been here. And when you look at
Speaker 1: not just this passing, look at the whole season from
Speaker 1: beginning to where we're at right now, is how can
Speaker 1: you not find like why are we right now discussing
Speaker 1: this Like you should have found a really good role
Speaker 1: for a guy like him, and you haven't. So I
Speaker 1: put that down on the people who decided that he
Speaker 1: should be here and Kellen Moore, You're not love to
Speaker 1: know is how often does Kellen call his offense based upon, Hey,
Speaker 1: this play, I'm designing this play for this guy, you know,
Speaker 1: because he may not do that very much. It may
Speaker 1: be one of the things, like you said it with Dak,
Speaker 1: Dak's looking for the open guy. His offense may be
Speaker 1: really predicated on We're going to create scenarios and based
Speaker 1: on those scenarios, it's gonna go to the open guy.
Speaker 1: And they rotate their receivers so much that you don't
Speaker 1: know who that guy's going to be on any given place,
Speaker 1: so they don't really call it like, hey, we're designing
Speaker 1: this place specifically to get gallop open or you know
Speaker 1: it ceed open. You know it when they go max
Speaker 1: protection and they're trying and run the deep cross, you know.
Speaker 1: You know that when you see everybody stand in and blocking,
Speaker 1: you know they're trying to get the ball to somebody's
Speaker 1: specific But I wonder if they're doing that how often
Speaker 1: now and that relative to like to the point of
Speaker 1: this conversation, to the point where you would actually be
Speaker 1: designing plays from Michael Gaup to get him involved let's
Speaker 1: also and I'd just referred to the player, Let's not
Speaker 1: forget this year. This twenty twenty two year is when
Speaker 1: he did tear his ACL. So he tore his ACL
Speaker 1: earlier this year, back in January, waited in February to
Speaker 1: have the surgery, not because because that's when it was
Speaker 1: not that he did. That's when you're supposed to do it.
Speaker 1: And then now he's back and we're in this conversation.
Speaker 1: So acls on receivers, I mean, you gotta get them
Speaker 1: a little bit pass. But I do believe that it's
Speaker 1: it's it's on a little bit of everyone. I think.
Speaker 1: I think we're all probably on board with that. And
Speaker 1: bar you've lost leads of fourteen and seventeen on the road,
Speaker 1: likely a playoff path is on the road. It's a
Speaker 1: concern for you or is that just a trend in
Speaker 1: the NFL? No lead is safe. I mean it look
Speaker 1: called the World Cup Final. Um yeah, it seems to
Speaker 1: be kind of the theme. There are some comebacks that
Speaker 1: have just blown my mind how it's worked out. So
Speaker 1: I just think it's the nature of no game, like
Speaker 1: nothing's guaranteed and you got to play your hardest from
Speaker 1: beginning to end and finished finished the game. I think
Speaker 1: that that comes down to. I don't know, because even
Speaker 1: looking at this game specifically I look at it, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what change other than you're taking out Tyren Smith and
Speaker 1: putting Jason Peters on offense in the second half of
Speaker 1: the game, Uh, what really changed? They figured out that
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph was playing left corner for him and that's
Speaker 1: two touchdowns just like ye, yeah, well offense, I'm talking no, no,
Speaker 1: like Cowboys offense when they were working so well in
Speaker 1: the first half of the game. They were moving, things
Speaker 1: were flowing, and then you come back after halftime, which
Speaker 1: is unusual for them, they tend to show you the opposite.
Speaker 1: So to me, it was like, Okay, why can't you
Speaker 1: just be consistent in that aspect of just carrying over
Speaker 1: the whole thing. The turnover might have affected to the
Speaker 1: first interception that gave them, Yeah, that gave them hope.
Speaker 1: But what was your question? Again, It's about fourteen You're
Speaker 1: you're losing, You're playing games and the playoffs on the
Speaker 1: road likely and you've lost the fourteen point lead in
Speaker 1: Green Bay and a seventeen point lead in Jacksonville. Is
Speaker 1: that worrying you going forward, losing leads on the road, Well,
Speaker 1: we got two more games on the road, so yes,
Speaker 1: it is concerning. It does worry me, And to me,
Speaker 1: what I'm really looking at is preparation during the week.
Speaker 1: And that's something I've heard just talking to people that lately,
Speaker 1: you know, because of the changing and we've talked about
Speaker 1: it on the show, just kind of practice time, the
Speaker 1: lack of practice, you know, and that's something Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: talked about it. You know, this is the time you
Speaker 1: got to give these guys a little rehabbing, a little
Speaker 1: break for their bodies to you know, be in shape
Speaker 1: because of the toughness in December. But I think it
Speaker 1: comes down to the preparation and the amount of time
Speaker 1: they take during the week leading up to the game. Derek,
Speaker 1: you know it concerns you, but not for the reason
Speaker 1: that it's on the road necessarily. What concerns me is
Speaker 1: I'm starting to one if this is just a it's
Speaker 1: gonna sound weird, but if this is just an immature team,
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, do they get
Speaker 1: in situations where they get a lead and they get
Speaker 1: comfortable and so they let up a little bit, and
Speaker 1: for you know what, teams back in it do they
Speaker 1: go into a game against a team like Houston where
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, we can beat this team. We'll roll
Speaker 1: out of the practice ball we find and they get
Speaker 1: into that game and then they get to the last
Speaker 1: couple series and realize, oh god, we were about to
Speaker 1: lose this game, and then they turn it on and
Speaker 1: play football. Those to me are just signed sometimes that
Speaker 1: the team's just a little immature. A team just doesn't
Speaker 1: they don't approach every situation with the same level of intensity,
Speaker 1: and because of that, their results tend to be like this,
Speaker 1: where situations that they really shouldn't be in they find
Speaker 1: themselves in. In basketball, if your team is up three
Speaker 1: with five seconds to go, what are you doing? If
Speaker 1: your team is up three and they got the ball,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You foul UPO three? You're gonna
Speaker 1: foul your foul? Why because you don't want to get
Speaker 1: a foul to give? Yeah? Well but but I but
Speaker 1: even if you don't, though problem, the only thing that's
Speaker 1: going to hurt you here is if they make a three.
Speaker 1: And so it's the same with football. The only thing
Speaker 1: that's gonna hurt you when you're up fourteen in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter or seventeen or whatever is if they score quickly.
Speaker 1: And in the Bronch I mean and the Packers game,
Speaker 1: it's fourth and nine and the games the game's over
Speaker 1: and they throw a deep ball and over Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: or no, over Bland, sorry old touchdown. In this game,
Speaker 1: you're up seventeen. They're not going to come back unless
Speaker 1: they scored in five seconds here, which they did a
Speaker 1: deep ball. So I put some of it on Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn as well. And you're up at seventeen or fourteen
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know. The prevent defense. People hate it
Speaker 1: because there's a stigma about it. Oh, it only prevents
Speaker 1: you from winning. No, no, it prevents them from scoring quickly.
Speaker 1: And that's what you're trying to do. So, especially when
Speaker 1: your corners are struggling like that, don't give up the
Speaker 1: deep ball as much. Maybe play everything a little bit
Speaker 1: more in front and let them work, work, work where
Speaker 1: the clock's going off, play a little clock and back
Speaker 1: off a little bit. But let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: I hear that, and I think it's fair good. My question,
Speaker 1: my question is, my question is on the play on
Speaker 1: the first touch down that Joseph gave up? Was he
Speaker 1: not kind of pleading him in a situation where he's off,
Speaker 1: he's trying to play a little conservative. He bites on
Speaker 1: the route, lets the guy go buy him, and then
Speaker 1: you're filling him a ball cap for this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you go back that special team. But that
Speaker 1: all special. I think that's also kind of the problem
Speaker 1: here is that you may even put guys in position.
Speaker 1: You got such young players, inexperienced players, players that may
Speaker 1: not be as good as you want them to be,
Speaker 1: yet that just are making these kinds of mistakes that
Speaker 1: they shouldn't. That he that that you can't really have
Speaker 1: right now, you know, especially when you got that kind
Speaker 1: of league. All right, this is my last one. I
Speaker 1: think we're running out of time here, but this is
Speaker 1: my last one for you, Nick. And this is just
Speaker 1: a personal opinion here. I have no problem with Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts being out Winning against their best is a myth.
Speaker 1: All that matters is winning. How do you feel about that? Oh?
Speaker 1: Of course all that All that matters is winning. Nobody.
Speaker 1: I don't care about you playing the best. I don't
Speaker 1: care no when when I'll take it back thirty years
Speaker 1: thirty years the Cowboys beat the Bills in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two to seventeen. All these great plays and
Speaker 1: remember Leon lad and all the stuff. Nobody really remembers
Speaker 1: that Jim Kelly hurt his knee in that game. No
Speaker 1: one cares it. I don't think it would have mattered,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, but they don't care. And no
Speaker 1: one cared that that Dak was out for five games
Speaker 1: and they lost to the No One, no one cared about.
Speaker 1: One cares about the cornerbacks right now. Nope. So it,
Speaker 1: you know, deal with it. If you know, you can't
Speaker 1: expect quarterback with that name not to get hurt. That happens,
Speaker 1: deal with it. Jed, how about how are you about that? Bad?
Speaker 1: That's my bad joke of the day. Okay, good, Um,
Speaker 1: now we're having anymore. No more coming bad jokes. We'll
Speaker 1: see TVD on that. You know. There may be good ones,
Speaker 1: but that was a bad one. No. I think as
Speaker 1: Parcels used to always say, no one cares, and I
Speaker 1: think that's absolutely I could care less. It's just about
Speaker 1: when every every team has losses based on every team
Speaker 1: loses players. That's the nature of the NFL. I ain't
Speaker 1: getting caught up in who you lose or who the
Speaker 1: cowboy Like, at the end of the day, you still
Speaker 1: got to go out and play and it is what
Speaker 1: it is. Well, I mean before you answer that, I
Speaker 1: mean Mica Parsons doesn't care, because I thought Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: went on and say that's not it's not hurts anyways.
Speaker 1: It's the whole team, it's the defense and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So I mean this shouldn't matter at all, right, right
Speaker 1: according to Mica, I mean, he's just he's just a
Speaker 1: piece in their little puzzle. I don't. I don't agree
Speaker 1: with that, and neither did Von Miller whoever was asking him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this week, do you want to play the best or
Speaker 1: you want to just go out and win games? How
Speaker 1: do you were you looking at it? How do you
Speaker 1: give a crap who we're playing better win? I don't
Speaker 1: care at this point of this many years and I
Speaker 1: haven't been a Cowboys fan for as long as many
Speaker 1: people have been, and I've been here, why like close
Speaker 1: to ten years maybe yeah, And I've suffer enough in
Speaker 1: just that span of time. I am, so to me,
Speaker 1: it's it's had a point that I don't care when
Speaker 1: when when that's all it matters, cast one more real
Speaker 1: quickly and just give it a real quick one here. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go with you, agn this one go back to you.
Speaker 1: Is there really competition at left cornerback or is this
Speaker 1: going to be nashun right playing in this game? Dan
Speaker 1: Queen came out. I know, I know, I know, I
Speaker 1: just don't know not thinking about it. I know he
Speaker 1: said that what I'm thinking of is like, is there
Speaker 1: really competition? Yeah? Right? This week? Yeah? What all? Like
Speaker 1: how much can another guy do to show you that
Speaker 1: he's better than who you've decided to stick with for
Speaker 1: this for the last game? Yeah, the last game, which
Speaker 1: is Kelvin Joseph, which I feel all of us have
Speaker 1: seen it before he even got the job to replace
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. We've all known like he doesn't have it,
Speaker 1: but when maybe see something in him and now he's
Speaker 1: maybe clearly changing his opinion. But with the guys that
Speaker 1: you have left, I don't know who really has much
Speaker 1: to for it to be a like a real competition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so I think Nishan maybe the guy just
Speaker 1: because the nice guy up. Really I think it's a
Speaker 1: competition because I don't think anybody clearly is necessarily. I
Speaker 1: don't think Nashan nor Calvin, Joseph has clearly separated themselves
Speaker 1: from a group, and so I think these other guys
Speaker 1: that they brought in, they brought in for a reason.
Speaker 1: They're going to see what they could play for me personally,
Speaker 1: I would look at Joseph, Nishan, right, McKenzie, Alexander, Mullen
Speaker 1: and Sheffield who has played the best game in their career? Like,
Speaker 1: is there anybody has played the best game? Whoever that is,
Speaker 1: That's who I'm gonna lean to that You've done it experience,
Speaker 1: and I'm praying that a sterling more situation falls into
Speaker 1: your lap. Remember they just brought this guy in and
Speaker 1: he played pretty well. Done somebody like that McKinsey, Alexander.
Speaker 1: It's slot and land on the outside, and that's exactly
Speaker 1: what I want to support. All right, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: Jump We're back tomorrow. Sorry we will tomorrow. We'll jump
Speaker 1: in and go offense versus defense and give you guys
Speaker 1: some updates. All right, some what we think is gonna
Speaker 1: happen this weekend with the Eagles Cowboys match up. Till
Speaker 1: then for Nick even Brian brought us Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Higelton.
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