WEBVTT - Double the Fun with Daniella McBride 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.680 Hell I Suck At Dating with Denglert and Jared Haven 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:10.880 and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to an all 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:15.280 new episode of Help I Suck At Dating. It's Friday. 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.919 This airs on Sunday, right before three day weekend. Very 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.479 exciting times. But if you were in the restaurant industry 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.439 like myself, there is no weekend for you. But that's 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.360 all right. We're grinding here. I'm Jared Haven, of course, 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.560 joined by Dean Unglert, and we have a very special Yeah, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.840 he's putting up what is that the rock and roll sign? 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.680 By the way, that's a that's a let's have the 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.360 best podcast ever signed. That's actually the universal about to 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:41.400 be a great podcast sign? Because you do that? Will 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.320 you do that sign a lot? So it's your pointer 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.520 finger and your pinky straight up? Is that? Like rock on? 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.280 More than more than just a lot? Actually, I've even 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:54.760 got it tattooed here on my is right there. So 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.040 it's just an energy that lives within me. Sometimes I 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.040 just have to express it physically, and that's what I 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:00.560 go to, you know, how like it? Well, we have 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.040 very special guests joining us right now. You know her 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:07.880 from season seventeen of the Bachelor. It is Danielle McBride. Danielle, 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.720 how are you hey, I'm good. How are you, guys? 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.199 I'm well, thanks for joining us on Help. I suck 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:17.479 at dating. I know. I When I first heard about this, 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.560 I was thinking, oh my god, the last time I 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.160 was dating. Because I've been in a relationship for seven years, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.160 I'm like thinking back to dating times. I'm excited to chat. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.240 So it's it's always nice when we have a co 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.760 host on here that doesn't suck at dating because we 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.680 learned way more than me. What otherwise, Well, I hope 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:35.399 I don't suck at dating. I actually think I have 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.520 really good advice. So I'm excited to to chat with 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.679 you guys. But Dean, I haven't seen you in a while. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.319 I know I sat back in the day. So yeah, 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.160 So just before we started recording, we were re reminiscing. 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.760 I suppose when did we meet? I want to say 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.440 it with Seth McFarland's like holiday party, right maybe? And 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.680 also Leslie is my good friend and when you dated 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:05.280 likely speaking of Suya, I'm kidding Help by suck at dating, 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.080 and that's funny. I don't remember meeting you with her though, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.040 we must have, I guess at some point because I 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.120 remember when I remember when we when we got the 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.280 rundown for this episode and I saw your name on there. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:17.800 I was like, oh my gosh, I know she looks 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.320 so familiar, but um, that's funny. Yep, that was a 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.840 chapter in my life, Leslie. Um, she's got a kid now, 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.840 and you've got a couple of kids, right, yeah, I 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.600 have twins, two boys, So you guys, you guys are 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.840 just mommy life in it. But you know, I still 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.040 have like my single girls and I go out still. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:39.120 I'm like a cool mom. So you are well. So 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.920 for the listeners out there, Danielle had twins September one, 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.359 so they're um coming up bunny year kind of the probe, like, 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.560 what like nine months at this point? Yeah, you're good there, 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.640 eight months? So eight months twins? Well you know, hell 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.600 are you doing? Now? Well, Okay, I have a no 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.280 pair So that changes the game she's from and honestly 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:03.079 she lives with that. So what's a pair is actually 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:07.200 a program with the government where the embassy uh picks 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:11.560 a bunch of girls or men who are across the country, um, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.200 who want to study in the US. But then they 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.840 also want to be full time nanny's for families. So 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.160 it's actually a great program because they get a visa 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.639 and they can stay up to two years and it's 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.480 been an amazing process for us. We actually I need 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.000 to know a pair of status. Yeah, she was going 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.000 to say, I'll introduce you. It's so worth it. Yeah, 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.280 I love that. So twins, I mean Ashley had one 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:39.440 in her belly and it was enough horror so to Yeah, 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.280 and it just happened like I got pregnant and I 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.440 went to the doctor and they said you're having twins, 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.120 and I just remember looking at the screen like crying 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.920 a little bit scared. Well, it's crazy because obviously I 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.720 was in the delivery room with Ashley, and pushing one 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.160 out is just a moment. I can't imagine having to 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.320 push one out and then be like all right, here 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.520 we go round two. Yeah, you know what. I actually 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.800 had a C section and it was scheduled because the 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.040 doctors just I think they honestly it's a liability thing 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.280 for them and they don't want to risk doing it, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.960 which I kind of regret because I'm I'm super into 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.520 natural thing, so for me, I wanted a natural experience 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.000 but they're always like, Okay, this is a day and 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.119 we're going to do it. And for me, I actually 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.080 made it to thirty seven weeks, which is full term 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.080 for twins. Um. But yeah, I'll tell you guys, it 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.720 was a lot like I didn't love being pregnant. I 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.159 did not like being pregnant. Well, especially with twins the double, 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.520 I'm sure everything was just intensified even more. Um. I 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.159 just wanted to ask, what is it like going to 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.840 the hospital with a plan in C section, because it's 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.440 got to be so much different than like a natural birth, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.960 whereas you know, you go into labor and then you 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.720 go your water breaks and you go to the hospital 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.320 with the C section, it's kind of like you're leaving 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.119 the house and you're going to have the baby probably 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.080 that same day or something, right, So what was that 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.920 whole experience exactly? Yeah, I know, it was super interesting. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.560 I went into the doctor, Um, she said I had 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.240 to too much amiotic fluid. So she was like, we're 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.600 gonna have the surgery eight am in the morning. So 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.480 I remember just driving to my house with my partner 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.839 Mark and he was like, we're just driving through to 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.400 paying it because I live in with the Hills now, 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.159 so we're like driving through to PA. I'm like hysterically crying, 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.159 like freaking out, thinking, oh my god, I'm gonna go 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.440 through surgery. I've never gone through surgery before. Um. And 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.719 then she's like, you're gonna sleep overnight at the hospital. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.200 So I slept overnight at the hospital, and I was 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.640 the whole time just like so stressed out. I was 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.479 just like I could not sleep. I could not even 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.479 like I was just so uncomfortable. I was so big 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.200 because I had two in me and I was just 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.240 like waiting at them out. But yeah, it's a weird 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.400 feeling knowing that, like it wasn't a natural experience for me. 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.880 And I'm like going into this room and there's like 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.359 a tiny little um like metal caught area and you 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.120 have like ten people surrounding you and you're literally about 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.200 to have surgery because which wins is double everything, like 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.600 double nu double too O b's it was everything. So 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:00.440 it was crazy. But I like, yeah, so you live 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.599 in Woodland Hills. What hospital did you go to because 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.640 is there not one up in that area? Yeah? I 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.400 actually was at St. John Santa Monica, so I before 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.960 was and then we bought a house of Woodland Hills. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:14.080 So I just went to her and so it was 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.560 fine though, I mean, what do you think of Woodland Hills. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:18.360 Not to get off the baby subject or anything, but 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.360 Caitlin and I were looking at We wanted to buy 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.280 a house up there, but it just never ended up 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.920 coming to fruition. But you like it up there, I'm obsessed. Yeah, 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.520 we have like a mountain house. Um, we're so nice. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.960 We're right next to country club and it's just an 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.920 awesome place for just people in general who just want 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.039 to have a more metal lifestyle. Lots of families, but 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.480 there's also like couples who are you know, you know, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.240 no kids, um, and I'm a huge trees everywhere in 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.440 my backyard right now that I'm looking at, So I 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.200 highly recommend it. We were, yeah, we were looking at 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.400 a house right on that Woodland Hills country Club area too. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.320 It was mine. If you guys have a listed, it's 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.479 definitely possible. But no, it was just it was just 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.200 a crazy time and obviously everyone knows like the real 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.640 estate market went when bananas over the past year, so 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.240 we decided to wait a little bit longer, but maybe 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.480 one day we'll be neighbors. Yeah, I mean our house 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:10.520 had twenty three offers on it, so it's crazy. Yeah, 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.520 so you guys just moved in then recently then um, 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.679 when I got pregnant. So last year we moved in. Okay, 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:21.720 yeah that was lots of changes, new house, new faces 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.400 with the pair, I guess. Yeah, it's crazy you guys, 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.960 So what's going on? What kind of advice do you 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.680 have for Jared? Because you've only got like a five 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.640 month head start on him. But I feel like in 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.840 the first year you see some more difficult you see 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.200 some pretty significant changes. I can only imagine. So what 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.720 do you got for Yeah, I'll tell you Jared. Um, 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.160 now they sleep through the night, so I put them 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.120 down at seven and then they wake up around six thirties. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:46.960 So for me, I don't know what you guys have 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.880 sleep trained already, but for me that's amazing because I 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.880 actually can sleep. Um, but that's a big change. And 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.160 then I mean they're just super cute now, like giggling 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.920 all the time, and um, you know, just they're just fun. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.480 They're like like the cute baby stage where you like 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.280 don't want them to grow up, but then you kind 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.520 of do. But then you kind of don't. So, Yeah, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.560 Dawson is really cute right now he stares, which is 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.760 so he'll he's smiling now, which is fantastic. He hasn't 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.840 been really giggling or laughing, but I'll notice when he's 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.360 in the swing. Because the great thing is it used 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.280 to be if if he was awake and we would 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.400 put him down, he'd immediately start crying. But now if 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.120 he's awake and we put him in the swing, he'll 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.880 stay there for a few minutes and kind of be content, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.040 which is really nice. And sometimes like I'll go make 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.200 coffee or something and I'll look back and I can 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:36.960 see him just staring at me, and that's pretty awesome, uh, 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.439 because he just has nothing else to look at. Really. 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.520 Um yeah, I'm very excited for him to sleep through 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.520 the night. Uh. And see the thing, ever, I hear 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.679 a lot people put their you know, like they'll go 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.720 down at seven and then they'll sleep till like sixty seven. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.280 The problem is Ashley is such a night owl. If 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.440 she puts Dawson down early, she's not going to bed 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.880 till twelve or one, so it doesn't even matter. So 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.560 we like, somebody needs to change their sleeps. Schedule, either 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.560 Dawson or Ashley. I'm thinking, ah, what does Ashley do 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.920 until one am? She just is She's always been an 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.679 adular She's answering emails, she's doing Instagram things like she'll 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:14.320 she'll she'll start working like at eight pm, and I'm well, 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.480 now I'm at work, But when before I opened Audrey's, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.560 when I would be home more, I would be so 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.840 I feel so guilty because she'd be doing things all 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.200 around the house at like ten pm, and I'm like, 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.160 I'm going to bed. She's like, yeah, that's fine. I'm like, well, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.720 I feel terrible because you're doing laundry right now and 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.679 I'm gonna go lay down. So I guess, you know, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.640 I'll just be a terrible husband. No, I mean, honestly, 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.120 sleep is still important when you have kids. I mean, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.520 any parents will tell you that. So hopefully actually can 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.480 get to a rhythm though she needs it. She needs 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.959 it because either either Dawson is going to change his 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.640 sleeping habits or Ashley. And if I was a betting man, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.000 I'd say Dawson is not changing his sleeping you know, 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.760 like he's priority actually needs to revolve around him. Yeah, Well, 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.000 Daniel Danielle. How is it with the twins? Are they 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.240 always kind of on the same schedule or have they 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:05.240 been like dueling at all? Yeah? Same schedule. So we 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:10.040 try to do eating, sleeping, everything the same. So, um, 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.240 it's just it's good to have a routine because then 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.560 they get into it and then you're like, Okay, you 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.640 having twins and they're both boys, right boys. Is there like, um, 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:21.880 I don't want to say like support groups, but like, 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.199 are there like groups where moms of twins or parents 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.920 of twins come together? Because having twins, I can only 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.719 imagine is a whole different realm of parenting where it's 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.079 like you don't have to raise some different firste but 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.959 there's like probably different things to expect I can imagine. Right, 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.520 So is there any like community around twin parents? Yeah, 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.680 that's such a good question. Um So when I now 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.199 that I have twins, one thing I realize is there's 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.040 so many twins out there. People like don't talk about it. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.000 It's like this whole world and like I'm even like 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:52.959 on business calls and I'm like, oh, I have twins 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.079 and they're like, oh, I have twins. I'm like, oh, 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.280 the fraternal are identical? And then you really kept to 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.000 identify like what they are. And there's a lot of 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.920 twin parents out there and meeting a few, but yeah, 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.720 it's do I have any that are close by? Not really, 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.280 it's more just like talking to them through tax door 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.520 on phones. Group Wise, I think there are some out there, 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.440 but it's more just I think when you post on 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.040 Instagram something about twins, like twin moms have reached out 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.200 to me. Um, just they want to connect because it 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.800 it is it it's a lot, um it's it's just 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.560 it definitely has to add a new dynamic. I have 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.439 got some really good friends from back home who are 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.680 twin boys, um. And they grew up their whole life together, obviously, 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.199 and they went to different colleges when I went to 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.480 college in Colorado, one went to Washington And the first 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.360 two years they were both like super depressed because you know, 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.480 they spent their whole years, their whole lives together, and 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.000 then all of a sudden and they wanted to get 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:44.880 away from each other. But then they realized not long 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.840 after that they kind of needed to be close to 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.719 each other. Um. And so I can imagine there's got 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.480 to be like not complications, but like definitely like interesting 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.559 levels to that kind of stuff too. Yeah, I'm excited 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:56.920 to see when they grow up how it's going to 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.480 be because people always say that right now, they like 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.400 can't really I even they identify each other, but they're 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.839 not like obsessed, So I don't know, do you this 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.960 is this is gonna sound really stupid, um, but I 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.800 gotta ask, do you know at this point in their 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:17.280 lives if they're fraternal or identical twins? So great question. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.680 When when I was pregnant, they were two separate sacks. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.640 So usually if they're two separate sacks, are usually fraternal, 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.000 but they could be identical because at the beginning they 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.760 could just split and it could be two separate sacks. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:33.240 Usually identical is one sack. So I think they're fraternal, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.000 but they look a lot alike. So we haven't taken 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.600 the test yet, but I mean, it's Jesse and Dylan, 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.040 and Jesse is definitely bigger than Dylan, but they if 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.400 you see them together, they're definitely they look a lot alike. 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:51.280 So at the end of the day, they could look 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:56.480 almost identical, but they would technically potentially still be fraternal exactly. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.080 So like the olds and twins, they're actually fraternal. They 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.800 look identical fraternal, So that's crazy. That was crazy. Yeah, 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.960 I didn't know that. Yeah, most people always think they're identical. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.640 And actually, what the cool is that I'm actually booking 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.040 them in TV show stuff now. So yeah, they like 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.520 they're booking to Apple TV stuff and what is this? 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:23.319 Dan or Okay? So I'm like, it's why not a 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.960 twin mom get them in stuff? I mean, hey, if 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.360 they can start paying the bills early, why the heck. No, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.839 you should reach out to Mary Kayton Ashley and see 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.400 if you can get any advice from him. I should. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:46.440 That's a great idea. Yeah, is there something as like 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.440 a twins intuition? And if you've noticed anything yet, Like 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.920 I know you said they haven't really recognized that like 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.719 one of their twins obviously, but have you noticed any 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.920 small moments where it's like a little freaky not really honest, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.319 I know, people I think they're just too young, Like 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.319 I don't know, I haven't yet, but some moms maybe 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:12.160 more more identical. I don't know. It's a good question. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:13.520 That's a good question. Though. It's like that you like 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.720 pinch one of them and the other one squirms or something. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:20.400 Like that, like a voodoo doll. I mean I think 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.400 you could. You could go down a deep rabbit hole 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.440 on the internet finding some some testimonies about that actually happening. Yeah, 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.760 there's a lot of videos too out there. You could 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.960 google twins stuff. Yeah, well, I don't know. I could 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.880 spend a whole day doing that kind of stuff. Um. 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:36.840 So has it been everything that you've expected it to be? 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.120 Like just being a mom and especially twins? Are you 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.160 having a blast? Like are you who? Are you excited 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.000 they're finally sleeping longer? What's kind of your general overall 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.120 feeling about it? Um, I've always dreamed to be a mom, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.120 and I know that's so cliche, but I have and 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.160 so I just feel super fortunate. Um. I love being 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.280 a mom. I love being part of like this feeling 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.120 once you're part of the mom club in a way, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.000 you learned so much about it. Um. But yeah, I 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.800 think it's great. I mean, there's not much more I 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.320 could say really beyond that, right, I mean, it's just special. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:12.160 I think it's a I think I know people struggle too, 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.080 So I know it's hard for people who can't be moms, 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.160 you know, but they can always adopt or something. But 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:18.960 for me being able to have my kids, it's been 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:23.080 great and sure fortunate. Does How did you and your 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.080 husband meet because he was you a bachelor guy? No, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.320 not a bachelor guy. Um, he's super private, he works 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:34.920 at Google. Um uh yeah we met ironic, he's very private, 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:42.720 he works at Google. Um. We met on Tinder. Yeah. Yeah. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.240 So I'm a big believer in dating apps, because dating 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:49.440 app I think they're great. Wait, that's awesome. So can 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:50.920 you tell us a little bit more about how you 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.000 guys met, Like who made the first move? What was 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.520 your first date? Yeah? So yeah, I was on Tinder 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.920 seven years ago, just you know, dating away. I love dating. 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.120 I thought it was so fun. Um and then yeah, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.640 he reached out. We went to a wine barn, rained 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.920 all right, had a great time. And then I remember 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.400 I was doating other guys at the time. Um, but 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.120 I knew the other guy I was dating was like 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.720 more of like a playboy who was having a lot 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.360 of fun, like wanted to find me pases and go places. 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.320 And I was like, you know what, like this guy 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.640 seems like normal and healthy and I should probably go 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.480 for that guy. So yeah, I mean it's been great. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.760 I mean we've traveled all over the world together before 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.760 we had kids. That I mean, we've gone everywhere from 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:38.360 like Japan to Morocco to Canary Islands. We love traveling, 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:43.400 so um, yeah it's been awesome. Well yeah we noticed 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:48.760 that because you said your partner. Yeah, so we're not married. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:54.480 Is that a conscious decision? Um? He doesn't really believe 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.160 in marriage? Um, but it's so like it's kind of 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.920 like I feel like, you know, um, Goldie Hans and 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.920 Kurt Russell, Like I feel like we're like that just 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.880 lifelong partners. Um. But we have everything pretty much a marriage, 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.280 and we have the house, we have the kids. You know, 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.159 we have everything. But yeah, I mean we're not married. 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.840 That is one thing. But I don't think, say not 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:22.800 believe about marriage. Um. I think it's just the paper 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.239 behind it. Like do you really need paperwork behind like 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.200 just loving someone maybe? And I'm sure that's every dude's 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:34.639 real thought in their mind. I like this guy. But 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.600 at the end of the day, I mean, I mean, 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.240 marriage is great. I had nothing, I would have gotten married. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.879 I have no problem with it. Um. Well that was 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.639 my question. I feel like a lot of guys, let me, 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.639 Dean has has had this thought before that he's expressed 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.720 in the podcast. But Kalin, I feel like wants to 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.040 get married. Was there ever an issue between you two 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.320 where he was against the idea of marriage and you 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.560 really wanted to get married. Yeah, So for me, I 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.520 wanted kids more than I wanted to be married. So 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.560 and I and I loved him, and it was it 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.159 worth it for me to like go out there and 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.400 find someone else just because I wanted to be married 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.040 when he was okay having kids and okay, you know, 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.840 being a life partner. So for me, I think it 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.879 was figuring out is that okay for me? And I 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.439 loved him so much that I was like, you know what, 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.960 I think it's okay. And now people bring it up 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.960 a lot, you know, because and I actually we even 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.159 call each other husband and wife when we're out sometimes 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:27.719 because it's just like annoying to be like, oh, it's 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.440 my partner, you know exactly. We're on the phone, we're like, 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.840 oh's my husband's my wife? Like we just don't care, 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.960 but yeah, we don't have like the paperwork behind It 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.920 didn't bother me a little bit. Yeah, maybe at the beginning, 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:40.520 but then I just kind of got used to it. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.119 And so you guys are you guys are locked in 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.640 on this right? Like there's I mean you said seven years, 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.520 that's definitely a long time. Um. Is there anything like 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.040 potentially coming down the line, maybe just like go to 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:55.119 a courtroom and file some paperwork real quick or um, 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:58.840 you know what I would? Um, I just don't think 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:03.159 it's in his realm. Yeah. Interesting, that's perfectly fine. I 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.480 appreciate that you respect that too, and you're okay with that. Yeah, 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.960 I'm very unique compared to most women because I don't 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.920 think most women would do what I do. So no, 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:13.719 I agree. I think you nail it right on the head, 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.280 especially once the kids come in. The only sticky thing 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.920 is is like, let's say you know, God forbid something 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.800 happens to you, would he still be like the he'd 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.200 be like next in line to help out with something 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.159 I would imagine, right, Yeah, I think you could just 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.280 get lawyers and have paperwork for that. So, um, we 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.760 have that because a lot of guys, like your partner, 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.000 I'm sure we'll say. You know, listen, I don't want 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.040 the paperwork. I don't like there's we don't have to 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.440 sign something to be in love, which I of course 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.880 agree with, but I think ultimately it ends up being 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.440 paperwork no matter what happens. You know, like you guys 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.760 bought a house together, I'm assuming that you guys are 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.679 in together on this thing like paperwork wise, so and 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.760 then you even just said, like, all right, well, now 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:57.840