WEBVTT - Parenthood, Football, Groupies and Regrets Feat. Eric Dickerson 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.800 This episode is brought to you by Vintage Souls, a 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.640 Los Angeles based online vintage boutique recreating custom, one of 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.920 a kind, nostalgic apparel. Your favorite vintage tease with a twist. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.240 Follow them at Vintage souls La or visit them online 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.840 at www dot Vintage souls La. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.360 Their t shirts are bomb as fuck. Now back to 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:24.840 a regular schedule program. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.520 Mom, I'll put it, it's mine. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:28.600 I put it. 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.720 It's mine. I put it, it's mine. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:31.800 I put it. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.040 It's mom. I put it, it's my. I put it, 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:35.520 it's mom. 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:40.680 I put it's I like the domnids who rock yeggs 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.760 in a set, shout, girls who rock bon tests big. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.920 That's in my Africants whose gray manny hours say they 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.360 own their own business sets and work while they care 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:50.840 for kids. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:52.480 You know my love Auntie. 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.920 Girls with Sunday best bomb girl, and love that my 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.240 age chick who make hair goes straight as shit. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.480 I love how it's in the doup, it's got the 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.320 quite hair. I love how. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:05.959 Bundles bundles hit that plug up. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.640 Welcome back. But he's good. Mom's bad choices. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:13.520 I'm Erica and I'm Mela, and it is hump Day, 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.000 Happy Wednesday, everybody. 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.199 We have a special guest today. I'm really excited because 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.679 this is probably the most special guest I've ever had, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:29.080 partly because or most importantly because it's my dad. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.960 And also just happens to be a RAMS All Star. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.880 Okay, so you're gonna figure out very quickly that Bemoke, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.360 me and Tamila don't know anything about football. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.760 All Star, no Hall of Famer. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.200 To say that I played football Hall of Fame running 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:57.080 back Eric Divererson aka my dad. Maybe we should have 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:57.800 researched tomorrow. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.160 Anybody else are like right now research other other people? 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:02.200 You know, you just talk to me. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.920 Welcome, thank you, thank you. We wanted to have my 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.639 dad on a because we've either both yet to have 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.040 any of our parents on So you know, first, you 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:15.560 guys listen to us every week and you kind of 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.440 get a feeling about who we are. We talk about, 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.320 you know, how we've grown up and who we are, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.040 but you've never like actually met any of our parents. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:28.040 So my dad, here's my dad, Hey, what's happening my daughter? 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.919 We have we shared the same name, you share the 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:38.480 same face. Definitely the face I keeps coming in and 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.360 it's too early for this already. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:42.280 What's wrong? 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.240 You want to come in here? Come on, come in here, 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.760 come on, thank you upset about she's already upset, come on, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:59.519 come on. Okay. Anyway, so obviously he's a father, so 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:00.000 you know. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.040 On parent hunt, I understand. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:03.280 I know. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.639 You know. I used to be like this too. You 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.640 wouldn't listen like, oh my gosh, but you're a good baby. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:09.560 You know you were. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.359 I was apparently not great teenager. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.320 But oh my god. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.839 Last last week, Eric had told everybody about the time 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.200 where she sprayed her mom with the waterhouse. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.079 Oh my god. And then she called, oh my god. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:28.639 I was listening to the episode of the car and 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.640 he told the story again and I was cracking up. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.240 I said, but I hadn't even heard it. It wasn't 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:32.800 my fault. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.040 I can tell her. I can tell you. Your mom 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.560 called me. She called me, and she said, can you 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.800 say bad words on this? She called me, She said, Eric, 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:43.920 what are you doing? I said no. She said, I'm 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:44.960 gonna kill this little beach. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.520 She said, I knew. She said I would have said 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:52.040 the same thing. 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.880 I said, what happened? She said? She said, First of all, uh, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.880 she did they talking to pay for the house or something, 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.840 tell the people to card in the house. And she 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.720 said she, I know, she know, I know she know 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.920 who did it. And I said, well, she might know. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.680 I forget that. She's gonna tell me I'm not gonna 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:18.240 be your bitch. Oh yeah, she said that that's what 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.080 you said to your mind. Well her her mom kind 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.479 of got got a little argument, and then Erica said, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:23.920 I don't know who did it, Mom, I don't know. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:25.720 And then she s Then all of a sudden, men 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.680 said I but I sprayed it with the hot water holes. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.560 And he said, I'm not gonna be your bitch. So 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.680 I I laughed a little bit. I said, hey, I said, 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:34.920 I'm not gonna have a talking to you like that. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:39.479 I said that I will call her. So she hung up. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.760 I called you. I called you right away. I said 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:46.760 that was going on nothing. I said, you know what 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.239 happened with your mom? And you proceed you s proceeded 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.000 to tell me, well she did this. I said, oh, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.280 stop right there. I said, I'm not trying to hear that. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.719 I said, you said to her, I'm not gonna be Yeah, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.000 I said that, you said, but I said, I, I said, Erica, 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.360 I don't give a damn what your mom that that 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.880 voice is scared, I said, I said, I said, I said, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.160 you're not talking to your mom. I don't care what 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.320 she did. Talk to your mother like that. You understand, Okay, damn, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.080 I said, I say, going into it and going and 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.880 apologize to her and then called me back when you apologize? 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.120 So you did what I told you. You went in 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.600 you you're a good kid. You went anybody, but if 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.120 man did, I laughed, Oh my god, I was telling everybody. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.320 She thought, I'm not gonna be bitch. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.440 Did you You're not gonna because she made you the car? Yeah, 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.160 I think that, And then she kept yelling at me. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:33.640 I spread. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.440 It was so funny. 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.200 She was reading at my. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.280 As I was cleaning the car, and they're like, how 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:40.760 about now? 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.000 So that's it? Because I told you, I said, your 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.080 mama be on the ground with fighting and rattling around 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.560 the ground. You said no. I said, well, hell, that's 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.480 what your mama's gonna do, right, So you know, but 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:53.680 like I said, you were good. You a good teenager. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.640 Everybody everybody, Well, I can tell you as much I 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.200 was scared of you. Well, I said one thing and 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.159 one thing I told you I talked to you about 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.040 uh and I was dating athletes because I told you that. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.920 I said, let me tell you something. I said, I 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.600 want you to still with atholetes. I mean, I know 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.840 you like some guys when I f you're guys when 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.640 you were younger, but nothing serious. And as I know of, 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.279 I said, still with atholetes. I said, I said, look, 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.760 I said for me, I said, you know, I know 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.480 how we are. I know things were going to say. 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.080 I told you just up front, you old and I said, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:25.480 I said, they're going to tell you all the stuff 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:26.840 they wanted you want to hear, to get in your pants, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.840 I said. And after that, I said, you just another number. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.680 I said. One thing is is that when you become 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.080 that girl to athletes. I said, it's it's something you 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.000 can't shake for the rest of your life. I mean, 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.800 you can't shave, you can't shake that, that stigma you 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.480 can be an old lady. And I said, oh, that's 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:41.320 that old boy. 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.960 That's an interesting seems to be a big hold you. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.120 I mean, I mean you can't. I mean, because I'm 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:48.839 telling you that you you can't shake it. I mean, 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.320 you really can't. Women that we I see, right, now 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.680 that I've known thirty something years when that when I 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.600 was in my twenties, and you know, I was in 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.400 the twenty they when they twenties. But I know some 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.400 of the stuff they did and the jacket we put 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:01.880 on them like to say it and it's cool day, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.120 cool girl. Still you still look at them as that 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:05.039 that whle. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.880 You know, well, that's an interesting a that you're an 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.360 athlete and you told her first and foremost to not 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:11.720 date any other athletes. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.000 And it's also interesting that that jacket that you wear. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.880 You know, if you hoe in your twenties, you're likely 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:18.760 to be hoeing. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:20.520 We're not likely, but you. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.000 Know you can change. I mean, look they people women 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:25.880 change me and change too. I mean they really do. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.440 I mean you don't because it's a lot of women 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.160 and people dads, they become bothers, they become mothers and grandmothers, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:33.800 and they don't do that much things they did when 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.040 they were young. But you just can't shake it. 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.040 So let me ask you this because I'm sure as 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.880 an athlete, a lot of I'm not saying you, but 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.440 a lot of your me too. 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.240 I wasn't I just said me too. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.560 I'm sure a lot of athletes are promiscuous. 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.880 Oh Wed, look, you ain't got a sugar cot that 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.800 we hold I was a home yeah, okay, so it's 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:56.440 nothing to be proud of. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:57.240 You can't agree that. 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.040 That's like, that's the jacket you're going to have to 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.440 be labeled as because for a prime, like a long 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.360 amount of time, that was your If you're. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.920 An athlete, well you know, for a guy, yes, you know, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.040 but you know it's different for men. And and now 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.880 I'm not saying it's right. And let's get that straight 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.520 right now. You know, when you're young and you're male, 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.600 you do things I mean and and and men we 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.480 can do things that women can't do. And it's not 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.240 saying it's right. It's like, because men, we can have 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.960 sex with a woman. And okay, be clean up me. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.000 I got to hit home to my wife, a girl. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.920 Hold on, I'm like, hey, baby, I gotta go home. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.920 You know, and have no emotions. We you have, I mean, 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.040 I really have no emotions. All this is sex to us. Well, 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.719 women are different, I mean and and and that's just 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.080 that's that's the reality of it. I Mean, some women, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.160 some women can do what men do, but it's just 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:44.520 not a good look, it's not even a good look 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.280 for us. I mean, and you and I'm just being 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.319 honest about it. When you get older, you see it 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:48.599 like that. 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.439 I mean you definitely didn't see it like that. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:54.680 I was trying to hit as many as I could. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.640 I mean, I mean, I just just the truth. I mean, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:58.760 I was that guy. I mean I was. I mean, 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.600 I'm saying I was young. I was good looking back 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.679 in the day. I had, I had the body, and 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.800 I had I had it all. I had my man. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.440 I just got the shower, have my towel so low, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:16.120 log in the mirror. Then I got up there. I 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.599 got to like I got titties. I gotta go my 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.640 neck almost like embarrassed. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:26.679 Is gone coming gone year A pair of confidence with 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.880 women and money. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.520 And started and started. I think the big thing is 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.000 to start them, you know, you and I and I 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.319 wasn't that guy that I wouldn't. I was not arrogant, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.079 you know I was. I didn't never try to. I 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.319 didn't like to ain't you know, mistreat women. You know, 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.520 even like a lot of girls I went out with, 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.480 even way back then, we're still friends. I mean we're 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.800 still even get the girl, those kind of girls because 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.840 you know, I just in some ways I felt bad, 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.199 but I always try to treat them nice, unless you know, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.400 you say something across me, oh man, then then you're 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.559 finna get the real cursing out. I mean, to a 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.160 certain point, I'm respectful. I'm I want to be respectful 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.439 because I feel like everybody has feelings and they do. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.760 Even when I was young, I felt like that, but 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:07.679 still I was doing what I did. I mean, and 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.560 you know all of us guys did it. I mean, 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.000 it was just it was you know, like I said, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:13.800 we'll not to be proud of. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:14.400 I mean, I. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:19.079 Respect that a lot of men, I think, especially more nowadays, 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:20.320 younger guys. 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.000 This generation is a little bit different. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.000 Not like you can even see like the music and 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.679 shit that we listened to, like not only do like 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.439 it's one thing I'll get. I'm a woman, and some 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:31.640 of homes it's just hopes. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.719 Some people are Some girls are just I mean, some 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.439 women are just they just what they hold they and 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.319 some guys, I mean, they still try to do that, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.640 have that same life at fifty sixty years old, still 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.240 out that whole and they having three and four. I'm like, 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.760 what the hell I'm gonna do with three and four women. 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.640 At fifty years old, I can't hardly stay awake at night. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.319 But at least, like I'm saying, the difference is, you know, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:55.240 you respect people. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.319 You might not want to be in a relationship or 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.520 marry the jack or the guy, however you were respect people. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.040 And I think my biggest issue with a lot of 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.719 younger men or men now is that there's like a 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.920 disrespect and disregard. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:07.160 That goes for a women. 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:08.760 There's a lot of bitches and hose and a lot 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.120 of name calling, and I think that is kind of homosexual. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.800 Well home, I mean, I think he I think you 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.880 like women, but you like pussy, but you don't like women. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.920 And I think that's no, it's it's not even that. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.520 A lot of it you gotta understand is how you raised. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.679 You know, your upbringing. That's what it comes down to. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:25.920 What do you think your upbringing had to do with 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:30.000 while you like, I think there's a man, also was 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:30.360 just a man. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.360 I was a man, but I was young and you 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.120 know my mom and dad. They mean my mom because 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.160 my dad died when I was seventeen, but my mom 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.160 kept a close rain on me. I mean, almost like 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.120 a girl like I can do nothing. I mean seriously, 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.160 So I was like, boy, when I get out of here, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.600 I'm gonna get it. I mean, like the preacher's daughter, 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:45.400 the preachers. 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.120 Something, really is it? Because you were an athlete? 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.760 And no, no, my mother was my mom and dad 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.560 was real strict, they have you know, their morals were, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.480 you know, real morals. But you know, my mother was 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.439 always like, let me tell you some boy, you know 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.160 you ever hit a woman? If everything about you knowing 0:11:58.160 --> 0:11:59.719 when I beat your ass, right, you know? And I 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.360 was and I talked. I was taught at a young age. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.720 You know, you don't hit women. You know, you don't 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.440 disrespect people. And now you're don't let anybody disrespect you either. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:08.760 So that's how I was taught, and I was. My 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:10.679 dad always had a saying, you treat people the way 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.600 you want to be treated. And he told me at 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.920 a young age. And I still believe that. I mean, 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.280 I treat a person like I'm not. None of us 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.600 are better than anyone. I mean, these these bullshit, I'm 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.079 gonna say it, like the so called like super superstars, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.199 you know, different from you know, different from the guy 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.760 that that delivers the trash. What are you I mean, 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.719 when it comes time to die, you're gonna die just 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.559 like I am. They can have the biggest funeral in 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.360 the world, still gonna put your ass in the ground, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.680 you know. So that was that's just that's that's my belief. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.400 And I think, you know, some guys, I mean I 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.560 see it. I still see it now, Guys who got 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.880 this big head and they and they treat people. Excuse me, 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:47.000 my mind kind of fucked up. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:48.880 And I don't I don't like it, but you know, 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.240 I can only imagine how it gets worse as you 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.720 age out of an app being athlete, like being an 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.520 athlete that might be that treats people badly or at 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.720 the top of your game, and then suddenly you're retired 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.280 and you're not the hottest anymore. Like how do those 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.040 bath like guys that you came up with, Like, have 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:08.679 you seen how how how that has changed them? Or 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:09.600 does it make them worse? 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:10.840 Sometimes? 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:11.760 Is it humble? 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.480 Sometimes good and bad? So some of them are humble 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.000 and some of them are even worse because some of 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.480 us still they they stars people right, and they're right, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.240 they are right, but they're not the young guy. They're 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.520 not the they're not like just cause they're not the 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.480 Odell Beckham, they're not the Todd gurlies. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:26.880 You know, they're not currently playing. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.360 Those are the current guys and there they are, but 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.520 some guys think they're still current. You know, like a guy, 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:34.920 you know, he'll say, you know, I'm the greatest, I'm 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:36.839 the greatest. You know, I guess some guys say that, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.599 you know, they feel like they are. But you know 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.440 it can be humble. You see some guys who are 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.480 humble by it. And you see guys say, man, I 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.839 would I would a nice guy. I wouldn't hold a 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.080 nice guy back then. And you see guys that are 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.040 you know, that still have that I'm better than you attitude, right, 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:54.800 and it just goes both ways. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:56.679 But what what was your upbringing? Like? 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.640 Where were you just because I know you're from Texas, 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:00.439 where you're like, did you come from like a two 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:00.920 parent home? 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:01.960 Was it pretty normal? 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.079 Well, I'll say as much. Ye, I came a two 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.240 parent home. I was adopted. Uh, my mother had me 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.679 when she was fifteen years old. I found my my 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.360 mom was my I was told she was my sister. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.480 So I found out there was a teacher that my 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.000 mother was my mother, who my real mom was my mother. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:18.840 A teacher told me in school one day. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:19.240 Holder you. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.120 I was, uh, I think I was thirteen and your 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.680 teacher told you that. My teacher told me, uh yeah, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:25.280 teacher told me. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:25.520 I was. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.960 Yeah. It was out of fighting. Uh. The lady's name 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.400 was miss Holiday. She's passed away. Miss Holliday was her name. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:36.440 And my mom my real mother's name miss uh miss 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.560 Holliday or I can't think of. Bonna Ruth Holiday was 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.200 her name, Bonne Ruth Holiday, and uh, she was my 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.480 two my teacher and so class was old and she said, 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.560 s I want to stay up the class area. I said, okay. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.840 So she like premeditated. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.800 Oh yeah, when I watched it, I going to that. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.400 She said, uh. She said, so, uh have you seen 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.240 your daddy? I said, I said my dad. My dad 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.840 said home. She said, no, boy, you're real daddy. I said. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.120 She said, go home and ask your mom. Go in there. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:04.920 She said, come. My mother called him miss Red. That 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.320 was uh kind of her nickname. My my my my 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.200 adopted mother was miss Red Bowler. She was real light, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.440 so they call her miss Red. And she said, uh, 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.680 that's who you're real. You're real. You know your real 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.800 daddy is so I said, oh, okay, so I onegause 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:17.320 I went home. 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:18.080 Uh. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.880 And I walked in the house and my my mother 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.480 was standing Baola. It was my adopted mom. She was 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.800 really my great great aunt. Yeah, she was standing and 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.600 my dad was sitting and I said, Mama, I said, uh, 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.920 who is Richard Seals? And I never I still remember 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:38.360 her reply, what who the hell told you that? And 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.600 I said, miss Holliday, what the hell did she tell you? 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.760 She said that Richard Seals is my dad. And y'all 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.320 now my parents. My dad was sitting there and he 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.520 said and she bought. She went off cause my mother 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.080 had a bad temper. I mean she was like a 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.160 pistol packer. I mean I mean seriously, I mean. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.400 She was no joke cause I never knew that side 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.600 was like so so much older by the time. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.960 My r like y how yeah, Mama was. She was tough. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.280 I mean she was really tough. Like her dad killed 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.480 uh killed a man, you know, he was brother killed 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.480 and killed his wife. I mean they were they didn't 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.600 mess around, right, And so she said my dad said 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.560 settle down because she called her red, settle down, Red, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.920 sat it down. She said, what the hell did that 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.120 bitch tell you, And I said, she told me that 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.760 that that Helen is my real mother and y'all adopted me. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.640 And I remember my dad's reply, He said, I knew 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.920 it was about time for us to tell him. He said, 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.920 sit down there, But my mama was all us. So 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.720 she called Helen. It was his next door and she 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.640 she said, Helen, come over here and told this boy 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.280 by the Richard and I can I heard the dog 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.080 the screen door slam. She next and it was about 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.720 sixty yards away. She come running over. Oh Helen, Helen, Helen, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.040 what did that bitch tell you? What did she? I said, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:50.960 So he said, settle down, settle down. My dad was 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.960 so come set down. So all the women were freaking 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.800 freaking out. So she said, I told her. I told her. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:57.400 She told me that. She said that you you and 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.720