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I put it, 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: it's mom. 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 5: I put it's I like the domnids who rock yeggs 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 5: in a set, shout, girls who rock bon tests big. 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 5: That's in my Africants whose gray manny hours say they 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 5: own their own business sets and work while they care 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 5: for kids. 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 4: You know my love Auntie. 20 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 5: Girls with Sunday best bomb girl, and love that my 21 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 5: age chick who make hair goes straight as shit. 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: I love how it's in the doup, it's got the 23 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: quite hair. I love how. 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 4: Bundles bundles hit that plug up. 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back. But he's good. Mom's bad choices. 26 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: I'm Erica and I'm Mela, and it is hump Day, 27 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday, everybody. 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: We have a special guest today. I'm really excited because 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: this is probably the most special guest I've ever had, 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: partly because or most importantly because it's my dad. 31 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 6: And also just happens to be a RAMS All Star. 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're gonna figure out very quickly that Bemoke, 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: me and Tamila don't know anything about football. 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 6: All Star, no Hall of Famer. 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: To say that I played football Hall of Fame running 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: back Eric Divererson aka my dad. Maybe we should have 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: researched tomorrow. 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 7: Anybody else are like right now research other other people? 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 7: You know, you just talk to me. 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: Welcome, thank you, thank you. We wanted to have my 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: dad on a because we've either both yet to have 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: any of our parents on So you know, first, you 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: guys listen to us every week and you kind of 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: get a feeling about who we are. We talk about, 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, how we've grown up and who we are, 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: but you've never like actually met any of our parents. 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 7: So my dad, here's my dad, Hey, what's happening my daughter? 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: We have we shared the same name, you share the 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: same face. Definitely the face I keeps coming in and 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: it's too early for this already. 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 7: What's wrong? 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: You want to come in here? Come on, come in here, 53 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: come on, thank you upset about she's already upset, come on, 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: come on. Okay. Anyway, so obviously he's a father, so 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: you know. 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 7: On parent hunt, I understand. 57 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: I know. 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 7: You know. I used to be like this too. You 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 7: wouldn't listen like, oh my gosh, but you're a good baby. 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 7: You know you were. 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: I was apparently not great teenager. 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: But oh my god. 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 2: Last last week, Eric had told everybody about the time 64 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: where she sprayed her mom with the waterhouse. 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 7: Oh my god. And then she called, oh my god. 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 6: I was listening to the episode of the car and 67 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 6: he told the story again and I was cracking up. 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: I said, but I hadn't even heard it. It wasn't 69 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: my fault. 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 7: I can tell her. I can tell you. Your mom 71 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 7: called me. She called me, and she said, can you 72 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 7: say bad words on this? She called me, She said, Eric, 73 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 7: what are you doing? I said no. She said, I'm 74 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 7: gonna kill this little beach. 75 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: She said, I knew. She said I would have said 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the same thing. 77 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 7: I said, what happened? She said? She said, First of all, uh, 78 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 7: she did they talking to pay for the house or something, 79 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 7: tell the people to card in the house. And she 80 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 7: said she, I know, she know, I know she know 81 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 7: who did it. And I said, well, she might know. 82 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 7: I forget that. She's gonna tell me I'm not gonna 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 7: be your bitch. Oh yeah, she said that that's what 84 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 7: you said to your mind. Well her her mom kind 85 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 7: of got got a little argument, and then Erica said, 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 7: I don't know who did it, Mom, I don't know. 87 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 7: And then she s Then all of a sudden, men 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 7: said I but I sprayed it with the hot water holes. 89 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 7: And he said, I'm not gonna be your bitch. So 90 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 7: I I laughed a little bit. I said, hey, I said, 91 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna have a talking to you like that. 92 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 7: I said that I will call her. So she hung up. 93 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 7: I called you. I called you right away. I said 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 7: that was going on nothing. I said, you know what 95 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 7: happened with your mom? And you proceed you s proceeded 96 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 7: to tell me, well she did this. I said, oh, 97 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 7: stop right there. I said, I'm not trying to hear that. 98 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 7: I said, you said to her, I'm not gonna be Yeah, 99 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 7: I said that, you said, but I said, I, I said, Erica, 100 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 7: I don't give a damn what your mom that that 101 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 7: voice is scared, I said, I said, I said, I said, 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 7: you're not talking to your mom. I don't care what 103 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 7: she did. Talk to your mother like that. You understand, Okay, damn, 104 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 7: I said, I say, going into it and going and 105 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 7: apologize to her and then called me back when you apologize? 106 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 7: So you did what I told you. You went in 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 7: you you're a good kid. You went anybody, but if 108 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 7: man did, I laughed, Oh my god, I was telling everybody. 109 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 7: She thought, I'm not gonna be bitch. 110 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: Did you You're not gonna because she made you the car? Yeah, 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: I think that, And then she kept yelling at me. 112 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I spread. 113 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 7: It was so funny. 114 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: She was reading at my. 115 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: As I was cleaning the car, and they're like, how 116 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: about now? 117 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 7: So that's it? Because I told you, I said, your 118 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 7: mama be on the ground with fighting and rattling around 119 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 7: the ground. You said no. I said, well, hell, that's 120 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 7: what your mama's gonna do, right, So you know, but 121 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 7: like I said, you were good. You a good teenager. 122 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 7: Everybody everybody, Well, I can tell you as much I 123 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 7: was scared of you. Well, I said one thing and 124 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 7: one thing I told you I talked to you about 125 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 7: uh and I was dating athletes because I told you that. 126 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 7: I said, let me tell you something. I said, I 127 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 7: want you to still with atholetes. I mean, I know 128 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 7: you like some guys when I f you're guys when 129 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 7: you were younger, but nothing serious. And as I know of, 130 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 7: I said, still with atholetes. I said, I said, look, 131 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 7: I said for me, I said, you know, I know 132 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 7: how we are. I know things were going to say. 133 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 7: I told you just up front, you old and I said, 134 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 7: I said, they're going to tell you all the stuff 135 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 7: they wanted you want to hear, to get in your pants, 136 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 7: I said. And after that, I said, you just another number. 137 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 7: I said. One thing is is that when you become 138 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 7: that girl to athletes. I said, it's it's something you 139 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 7: can't shake for the rest of your life. I mean, 140 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 7: you can't shave, you can't shake that, that stigma you 141 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 7: can be an old lady. And I said, oh, that's 142 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 7: that old boy. 143 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: That's an interesting seems to be a big hold you. 144 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean you can't. I mean, because I'm 145 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 7: telling you that you you can't shake it. I mean, 146 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 7: you really can't. Women that we I see, right, now 147 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 7: that I've known thirty something years when that when I 148 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 7: was in my twenties, and you know, I was in 149 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 7: the twenty they when they twenties. But I know some 150 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 7: of the stuff they did and the jacket we put 151 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 7: on them like to say it and it's cool day, 152 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 7: cool girl. Still you still look at them as that 153 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 7: that whle. 154 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: You know, well, that's an interesting a that you're an 155 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: athlete and you told her first and foremost to not 156 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: date any other athletes. 157 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 6: And it's also interesting that that jacket that you wear. 158 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 6: You know, if you hoe in your twenties, you're likely 159 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 6: to be hoeing. 160 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: We're not likely, but you. 161 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 7: Know you can change. I mean, look they people women 162 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 7: change me and change too. I mean they really do. 163 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 7: I mean you don't because it's a lot of women 164 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 7: and people dads, they become bothers, they become mothers and grandmothers, 165 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 7: and they don't do that much things they did when 166 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 7: they were young. But you just can't shake it. 167 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this because I'm sure as 168 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: an athlete, a lot of I'm not saying you, but 169 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: a lot of your me too. 170 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 7: I wasn't I just said me too. 171 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 6: I'm sure a lot of athletes are promiscuous. 172 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 7: Oh Wed, look, you ain't got a sugar cot that 173 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 7: we hold I was a home yeah, okay, so it's 174 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 7: nothing to be proud of. 175 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: You can't agree that. 176 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: That's like, that's the jacket you're going to have to 177 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: be labeled as because for a prime, like a long 178 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: amount of time, that was your If you're. 179 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 7: An athlete, well you know, for a guy, yes, you know, 180 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 7: but you know it's different for men. And and now 181 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 7: I'm not saying it's right. And let's get that straight 182 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 7: right now. You know, when you're young and you're male, 183 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 7: you do things I mean and and and men we 184 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 7: can do things that women can't do. And it's not 185 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 7: saying it's right. It's like, because men, we can have 186 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 7: sex with a woman. And okay, be clean up me. 187 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 7: I got to hit home to my wife, a girl. 188 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 7: Hold on, I'm like, hey, baby, I gotta go home. 189 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 7: You know, and have no emotions. We you have, I mean, 190 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 7: I really have no emotions. All this is sex to us. Well, 191 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 7: women are different, I mean and and and that's just 192 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 7: that's that's the reality of it. I Mean, some women, 193 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 7: some women can do what men do, but it's just 194 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 7: not a good look, it's not even a good look 195 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 7: for us. I mean, and you and I'm just being 196 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 7: honest about it. When you get older, you see it 197 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 7: like that. 198 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: I mean you definitely didn't see it like that. 199 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 7: I was trying to hit as many as I could. 200 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, I just just the truth. I mean, 201 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 7: I was that guy. I mean I was. I mean, 202 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 7: I'm saying I was young. I was good looking back 203 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 7: in the day. I had, I had the body, and 204 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 7: I had I had it all. I had my man. 205 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 7: I just got the shower, have my towel so low, 206 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 7: log in the mirror. Then I got up there. I 207 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 7: got to like I got titties. I gotta go my 208 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 7: neck almost like embarrassed. 209 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: Is gone coming gone year A pair of confidence with 210 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: women and money. 211 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 7: And started and started. I think the big thing is 212 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 7: to start them, you know, you and I and I 213 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 7: wasn't that guy that I wouldn't. I was not arrogant, 214 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 7: you know I was. I didn't never try to. I 215 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 7: didn't like to ain't you know, mistreat women. You know, 216 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 7: even like a lot of girls I went out with, 217 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 7: even way back then, we're still friends. I mean we're 218 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 7: still even get the girl, those kind of girls because 219 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 7: you know, I just in some ways I felt bad, 220 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 7: but I always try to treat them nice, unless you know, 221 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 7: you say something across me, oh man, then then you're 222 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 7: finna get the real cursing out. I mean, to a 223 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 7: certain point, I'm respectful. I'm I want to be respectful 224 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 7: because I feel like everybody has feelings and they do. 225 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 7: Even when I was young, I felt like that, but 226 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 7: still I was doing what I did. I mean, and 227 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 7: you know all of us guys did it. I mean, 228 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 7: it was just it was you know, like I said, 229 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 7: we'll not to be proud of. 230 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I. 231 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: Respect that a lot of men, I think, especially more nowadays, 232 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: younger guys. 233 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: This generation is a little bit different. 234 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 6: Not like you can even see like the music and 235 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 6: shit that we listened to, like not only do like 236 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 6: it's one thing I'll get. I'm a woman, and some 237 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 6: of homes it's just hopes. 238 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 7: Some people are Some girls are just I mean, some 239 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 7: women are just they just what they hold they and 240 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 7: some guys, I mean, they still try to do that, 241 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 7: have that same life at fifty sixty years old, still 242 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 7: out that whole and they having three and four. I'm like, 243 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 7: what the hell I'm gonna do with three and four women. 244 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 7: At fifty years old, I can't hardly stay awake at night. 245 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: But at least, like I'm saying, the difference is, you know, 246 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: you respect people. 247 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 8: You might not want to be in a relationship or 248 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 8: marry the jack or the guy, however you were respect people. 249 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: And I think my biggest issue with a lot of 250 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 2: younger men or men now is that there's like a 251 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: disrespect and disregard. 252 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: That goes for a women. 253 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 6: There's a lot of bitches and hose and a lot 254 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 6: of name calling, and I think that is kind of homosexual. 255 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 6: Well home, I mean, I think he I think you 256 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 6: like women, but you like pussy, but you don't like women. 257 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 7: And I think that's no, it's it's not even that. 258 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 7: A lot of it you gotta understand is how you raised. 259 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 7: You know, your upbringing. That's what it comes down to. 260 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: What do you think your upbringing had to do with 261 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: while you like, I think there's a man, also was 262 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: just a man. 263 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 7: I was a man, but I was young and you 264 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 7: know my mom and dad. They mean my mom because 265 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 7: my dad died when I was seventeen, but my mom 266 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 7: kept a close rain on me. I mean, almost like 267 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 7: a girl like I can do nothing. I mean seriously, 268 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 7: So I was like, boy, when I get out of here, 269 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 7: I'm gonna get it. I mean, like the preacher's daughter, 270 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 7: the preachers. 271 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Something, really is it? Because you were an athlete? 272 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 7: And no, no, my mother was my mom and dad 273 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 7: was real strict, they have you know, their morals were, 274 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 7: you know, real morals. But you know, my mother was 275 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 7: always like, let me tell you some boy, you know 276 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 7: you ever hit a woman? If everything about you knowing 277 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 7: when I beat your ass, right, you know? And I 278 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 7: was and I talked. I was taught at a young age. 279 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 7: You know, you don't hit women. You know, you don't 280 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 7: disrespect people. And now you're don't let anybody disrespect you either. 281 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 7: So that's how I was taught, and I was. My 282 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 7: dad always had a saying, you treat people the way 283 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 7: you want to be treated. And he told me at 284 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 7: a young age. And I still believe that. I mean, 285 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 7: I treat a person like I'm not. None of us 286 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 7: are better than anyone. I mean, these these bullshit, I'm 287 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 7: gonna say it, like the so called like super superstars, 288 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 7: you know, different from you know, different from the guy 289 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 7: that that delivers the trash. What are you I mean, 290 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 7: when it comes time to die, you're gonna die just 291 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 7: like I am. They can have the biggest funeral in 292 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 7: the world, still gonna put your ass in the ground, 293 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 7: you know. So that was that's just that's that's my belief. 294 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 7: And I think, you know, some guys, I mean I 295 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 7: see it. I still see it now, Guys who got 296 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 7: this big head and they and they treat people. Excuse me, 297 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 7: my mind kind of fucked up. 298 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't like it, but you know, 299 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: I can only imagine how it gets worse as you 300 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: age out of an app being athlete, like being an 301 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: athlete that might be that treats people badly or at 302 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: the top of your game, and then suddenly you're retired 303 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: and you're not the hottest anymore. Like how do those 304 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: bath like guys that you came up with, Like, have 305 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: you seen how how how that has changed them? Or 306 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: does it make them worse? 307 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 7: Sometimes? 308 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: Is it humble? 309 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 7: Sometimes good and bad? So some of them are humble 310 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 7: and some of them are even worse because some of 311 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 7: us still they they stars people right, and they're right, 312 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 7: they are right, but they're not the young guy. They're 313 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 7: not the they're not like just cause they're not the 314 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 7: Odell Beckham, they're not the Todd gurlies. 315 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: You know, they're not currently playing. 316 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 7: Those are the current guys and there they are, but 317 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 7: some guys think they're still current. You know, like a guy, 318 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 7: you know, he'll say, you know, I'm the greatest, I'm 319 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 7: the greatest. You know, I guess some guys say that, 320 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 7: you know, they feel like they are. But you know 321 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 7: it can be humble. You see some guys who are 322 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 7: humble by it. And you see guys say, man, I 323 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 7: would I would a nice guy. I wouldn't hold a 324 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 7: nice guy back then. And you see guys that are 325 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 7: you know, that still have that I'm better than you attitude, right, 326 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 7: and it just goes both ways. 327 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: But what what was your upbringing? Like? 328 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: Where were you just because I know you're from Texas, 329 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: where you're like, did you come from like a two 330 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: parent home? 331 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: Was it pretty normal? 332 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 7: Well, I'll say as much. Ye, I came a two 333 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 7: parent home. I was adopted. Uh, my mother had me 334 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 7: when she was fifteen years old. I found my my 335 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 7: mom was my I was told she was my sister. 336 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 7: So I found out there was a teacher that my 337 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 7: mother was my mother, who my real mom was my mother. 338 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 7: A teacher told me in school one day. 339 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: Holder you. 340 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 7: I was, uh, I think I was thirteen and your 341 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 7: teacher told you that. My teacher told me, uh yeah, 342 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 7: teacher told me. 343 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 6: I was. 344 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 7: Yeah. It was out of fighting. Uh. The lady's name 345 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 7: was miss Holiday. She's passed away. Miss Holliday was her name. 346 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 7: And my mom my real mother's name miss uh miss 347 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 7: Holliday or I can't think of. Bonna Ruth Holiday was 348 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 7: her name, Bonne Ruth Holiday, and uh, she was my 349 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 7: two my teacher and so class was old and she said, 350 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 7: s I want to stay up the class area. I said, okay. 351 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: So she like premeditated. 352 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, when I watched it, I going to that. 353 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 7: She said, uh. She said, so, uh have you seen 354 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 7: your daddy? I said, I said my dad. My dad 355 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 7: said home. She said, no, boy, you're real daddy. I said. 356 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 7: She said, go home and ask your mom. Go in there. 357 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 7: She said, come. My mother called him miss Red. That 358 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 7: was uh kind of her nickname. My my my my 359 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 7: adopted mother was miss Red Bowler. She was real light, 360 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 7: so they call her miss Red. And she said, uh, 361 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 7: that's who you're real. You're real. You know your real 362 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 7: daddy is so I said, oh, okay, so I onegause 363 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 7: I went home. 364 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: Uh. 365 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 7: And I walked in the house and my my mother 366 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 7: was standing Baola. It was my adopted mom. She was 367 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 7: really my great great aunt. Yeah, she was standing and 368 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 7: my dad was sitting and I said, Mama, I said, uh, 369 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 7: who is Richard Seals? And I never I still remember 370 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 7: her reply, what who the hell told you that? And 371 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 7: I said, miss Holliday, what the hell did she tell you? 372 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 7: She said that Richard Seals is my dad. And y'all 373 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 7: now my parents. My dad was sitting there and he 374 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 7: said and she bought. She went off cause my mother 375 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 7: had a bad temper. I mean she was like a 376 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 7: pistol packer. I mean I mean seriously, I mean. 377 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: She was no joke cause I never knew that side 378 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: was like so so much older by the time. 379 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 7: My r like y how yeah, Mama was. She was tough. 380 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 7: I mean she was really tough. Like her dad killed 381 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 7: uh killed a man, you know, he was brother killed 382 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 7: and killed his wife. I mean they were they didn't 383 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 7: mess around, right, And so she said my dad said 384 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 7: settle down because she called her red, settle down, Red, 385 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 7: sat it down. She said, what the hell did that 386 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 7: bitch tell you, And I said, she told me that 387 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 7: that that Helen is my real mother and y'all adopted me. 388 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 7: And I remember my dad's reply, He said, I knew 389 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 7: it was about time for us to tell him. He said, 390 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 7: sit down there, But my mama was all us. So 391 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 7: she called Helen. It was his next door and she 392 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 7: she said, Helen, come over here and told this boy 393 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 7: by the Richard and I can I heard the dog 394 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 7: the screen door slam. She next and it was about 395 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 7: sixty yards away. She come running over. Oh Helen, Helen, Helen, 396 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 7: what did that bitch tell you? What did she? I said, 397 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 7: So he said, settle down, settle down. My dad was 398 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 7: so come set down. So all the women were freaking 399 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 7: freaking out. So she said, I told her. I told her. 400 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 7: She told me that. She said that you you and 401 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 7: my mama and they're not my parents and they adopted 402 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 7: me because I would always tell Mama my real mother, 403 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 7: Helen because I thought she's my sister. Told me she's 404 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 7: my sister. I said she would tell me to do something. 405 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 7: I said, you ain't my mom, you can't tell me 406 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 7: what to do. And she oh, she said, say she 407 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 7: she told me. She later she told me, say said, 408 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 7: I'm your mom, your little I said, I tell herself. 409 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 7: Because she couldn't say nothing, And so she went over 410 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 7: she was gonna kill her. Yeah, she wants she wanted 411 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 7: to get the pistol to go kill her. My dad, 412 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 7: you know, wouldn't take her take the gun. So she 413 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 7: went over to her house. Yeah, went over to her 414 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 7: house and beat on her. Bitch opened this door cause 415 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 7: she don't. They lived about one hundred yards away. 416 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: For everybody to know everybody's business. 417 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 7: It is a small time. You got to think it's 418 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 7: a smaller two thousand. I don't fault two thousand people 419 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 7: who that house she went to live straight ahead and 420 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 7: coming down you know the street, the house or straight 421 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 7: ahead cross, that's where she lived right there. Yeah, so 422 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 7: I got, hell, bitch, come out of you mother telling 423 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 7: this boy body, you ain't got no right to do that. 424 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 7: So anyway, I kind of settled down, and then they 425 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 7: told me the whole story. 426 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, how did you feel when you were when 427 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: when they were asking you that, were you like and 428 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: disbelief or were you no? 429 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 6: You know? 430 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 7: You know, you know it answered some questions because I 431 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 7: always wondered why my parents were older than everyone else, 432 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 7: just just curiosity. Like then they adopted me. I think 433 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 7: Mom gonna said they were like sixty, like fifty eight 434 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 7: or sixty when they adopted me. 435 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: So then by this time they were like their seventy yeah. 436 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 7: The seventies. Wow. Then when the seconds my dad died. 437 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 7: I think he was seventy two when he died. So 438 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 7: you know, it was just kind of everybody's parents generally, 439 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 7: except my parent. You know. You know, I just I 440 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 7: didn't cause I ain't nobody sex and all that kind 441 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 7: of stuff, having having babies, so that she was Yeah, 442 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 7: I didn't. I didn't know because they talk about you know, 443 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 7: I was still talking about to tell about the Stark, 444 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 7: the delivered kids, the little kid. They were still telling 445 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 7: us to that line. The start came out or the 446 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 7: start came out last night, beautiful baby. So but it 447 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 7: didn't it it didn't. It didn't change me. I mean 448 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 7: it really it didn't. It didn't change much. 449 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean didn't change your relationship with your your real mom. 450 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 7: Or your sister and like how did that you know, 451 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 7: remember it's been so long, but it gave by men. 452 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 7: Helen just came my sister and brother. I mean, we 453 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 7: were you always did. 454 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: You always feel like she was Did you ever feel 455 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: like she was like your mother at any point? Because 456 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: I feel like growing up, like I always felt like 457 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: you guys were daughter like son and son and mother. 458 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: But maybe that's just because I knew that that's what 459 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: it was. 460 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 7: And so yeah, I mean it was you know, I 461 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 7: can say for me it was like luckily, it was 462 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 7: like I had two moms. It really was. It was 463 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 7: like Helen was my mother and Ball was my mom. 464 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 7: I mean, both of them had that moment. 465 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: You reserved like more respect for. 466 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 7: One, like Mama Boola because because she raised me. I 467 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 7: mean she was she was, but I know she said that, yeah, 468 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 7: that motherly thing. Yeah, because the one thing she was older. 469 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 7: So I was always kind of like worried about her 470 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 7: because she's old. And I remember my dad died, you know, 471 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 7: I remember my dad died. You know. She was by herself. 472 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 7: It was just us, even though my mother and her stepfather, 473 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 7: my husband was my stepfather right next door, which was 474 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 7: probably thirty yards. I saw them every day like my 475 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 7: brothers and sisters, and I told they told they were 476 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 7: my cousins, you know, so that they really were my 477 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 7: brothers and sisters at yeah, but at least it wasn't 478 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 7: born yet. But Robert and Leo, so. 479 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 6: After you found out they still So these were your cousins. 480 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, so you're real Mom. 481 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 6: Helen she had she had kids after you. 482 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: You still were not, but you were still relatively young too. Yeah. 483 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 7: Like yeah, when Sheen she had when she had known it, 484 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 7: she had my brother Lee Leo. She was young because 485 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 7: she had me, she was fifteen, and she got my 486 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 7: brother Robert next, and then she was older. I think 487 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 7: I think I'm fifty eight and uh I think known 488 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 7: he's I think he's fifty fifty fifty one, Okay, So 489 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 7: it was like and and him and Leo they're only 490 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 7: like thirteen months apart. 491 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 6: And they didn't know either. 492 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 7: Uh No, they didn't know. They were too young. They 493 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 7: didn't they didn't they didn't know, but you know, it 494 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 7: was it was, it was I can say it's you know, 495 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 7: it's been so hard to remember back then, but it 496 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 7: didn't change anything. 497 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: You were angry. 498 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 7: I wouldn't angry at all. I wouldn't want them kind 499 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 7: of kids to be angry because, first of all, Baller 500 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 7: wasn't having that angry shit. You can get that noth sense. 501 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 7: I ain't angry about what your ass whipped me. Let 502 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 7: me angry, but I won't forget. One time, man, I 503 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 7: was I was thirteen years old. I think I was 504 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 7: about fifteen, and I rolled my eyes. She said something. 505 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 7: I rolled my eyes. Man. She was to door and 506 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 7: got that shotgun, said boy, I'll kill your black ass. 507 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 7: You blow shoote. Don't you ever roll your eye. I'll 508 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 7: never forget that. And I said, Mama, please don't shoot me. 509 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 7: And then later on I said, Mama, you got that 510 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 7: gun and shoot me? Said no, one loaded. But I 511 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 7: didn't know that. Hell no, I never talked back, even 512 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 7: when I got older. I mean I one time she 513 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 7: was yelling at me. I'll be so mad. I was 514 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 7: in the pros, playing pro football, but I didn't say 515 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 7: nothing back. One time I came home, I was supposed 516 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 7: to take her to the mall or something. I didn't 517 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 7: do it. She yelled and cursing me, and I got 518 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 7: my rental car. I went back to the airport and 519 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 7: I just went back to California and leave. I say nothing, 520 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 7: Do you think like? 521 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 6: Because I don't know if you know this has a 522 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 6: like not a similar. 523 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 7: Story with our situation is very similar. I know too, 524 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 7: And we talked to him that you guys. Yeah, yeah, 525 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 7: his he found his dad lived right across the street. 526 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he was having an affair with Yeah, the. 527 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 7: Mom was having some of them. The dad was having 528 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 7: a fair with the mother. Right was right across, right 529 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 7: up the street. 530 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: It was right right years he thought who he thought like, he. 531 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 7: Didn't even know that was that his dad. 532 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: He just thought he didn't have a dad. I forgot guy, Yes, 533 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: I think that he was his real dad. 534 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 6: Is married a woman across the street, his wife and 535 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 6: their kids, and he just didn't know he he just. 536 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: Thought he didn't have a dad until he somehow later 537 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: in life he found out that that that man was 538 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: his father and. 539 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: All his neighbors were his siblings. 540 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, do you I don't know where 541 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 2: he's Do you think this is something that has happens often, 542 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: like the black community, You think it's down south? 543 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 6: Do you think it's just some shit that happened. 544 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 7: It happened it, It can happen black, white, It could 545 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 7: happen anywhere. But I mean, I think you know, we 546 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 7: black people have a tendency to keep it quiet in 547 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 7: the family, and that's how it was back in those days, 548 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 7: in the sixties and seventies. You kept it quiet. I mean, uh, 549 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 7: you didn't talk about you didn't tell. I mean it 550 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 7: basically like like Mama, my mother didn't I mean, Biola, 551 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 7: you know, told her telling that I was a mother. 552 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 7: That was my mother. I mean, I'm that was my sister. 553 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 7: I mean that lie went on till I found out, right, 554 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 7: I mean, would have just kept going. I think it would. 555 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 7: I think eventually that told me, Uh well, I think 556 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 7: I think for a while, I probably started I started 557 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 7: asking questions, cause I did have some questions I wanted 558 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 7: to ask, but you never asked them. I have that man. No, 559 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 7: you don't ask them kind of questions back in them days, 560 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 7: not to like these kids now, they'll pop up to 561 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 7: their mom like, Mama can't stand you. You know, if 562 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 7: you mom, you know, oh my god, I'd have been 563 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 7: dead so long ago. I mean really, cause mother, she 564 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 7: cleared to kill me if I told her of y'all 565 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 7: can't stand you by f you that that don't happen. 566 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 7: I mean, but you know, it's just that that's how 567 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 7: life is. That's how life was for back in in 568 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 7: the South, in the small town do you think that. 569 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 6: That experience affected like your parenting it anyway. 570 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 7: You as a father, I think maybe, you know, I'll 571 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 7: say for me, you know, when I think of my 572 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 7: daughter Erica here, you know what I mean. I me 573 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 7: and my mom, you know, got together, and you know, 574 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 7: my mom got pregnant. I wasn't ready to have a child. 575 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 7: I mean, I was still immature. I was twenty six, 576 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 7: I think twenty six years old, twenty five. Wanted to 577 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 7: be a twenty six I was. I was immature. I 578 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 7: mean I really was. I mean, you know, and I 579 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 7: was always a big believer that men mature for women, 580 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 7: just because you know, we but mature before women. I 581 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 7: used to believe that. I thank you. I laughed too 582 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 7: that it's funny. It's a big joke. It's it's a lot. 583 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 7: But you know, as a man, you don't want to 584 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 7: hear woman mature before you. I mean, come on, we're men, 585 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 7: we mature first. But trust me, it did. It doesn't 586 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 7: work with that happened like that, you know, I told her, 587 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 7: I tell Erica, I say, and I made a lot 588 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 7: of mistakes. I made a lot of mistakes, you know, 589 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 7: with my mother and my mom two both of us 590 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 7: both were young. But I made a lot of mistakes, 591 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 7: a lot of mistakes that I can't correct and make 592 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 7: right because you know, Erica's older. You know, things that 593 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 7: wasn't always smooth. You know when she was coming up. 594 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 7: You know, I didn't see it for a long time. 595 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 7: And I tell people, you know that got kids, Guys, 596 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 7: You're like, man, that baby, I said, Man, it's not 597 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 7: that child's fault. I say, I'm gonna tell you. I say, 598 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 7: don't regret, don't have regrets. I say, like me, I 599 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 7: have regrets because they see how close we are now. 600 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 7: But I still tell them I have regrets. I mean, 601 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 7: I have things that I wish that I could do over. 602 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 7: And I think a lot a lot of you dads, man, 603 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 7: don't be mad. I mean, look, sometimes in some cases 604 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 7: the women ain't worth the damn, but it's not the 605 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 7: child's fault. It's not that child's fault, and vice versa. 606 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 7: Sometimes the man ain't worth a damn right, and the 607 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 7: woman be like, you know that, that's sorry, but that's 608 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 7: still that child's dad, And some day they might want 609 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 7: to have a relationship with the day even though he 610 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 7: ain worth She says, no, it's not you know, and 611 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 7: you know, as bad as me and her mom got 612 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 7: along back then, you know, I tried never to say, 613 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 7: look your mommy with a damn your mon I mean 614 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 7: I didn't want. I didn't want to do that. 615 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: I never heard. I don't have any memories. 616 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't want to do that because because I 617 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 7: kept it to myself, I didn't. I didn't want. I 618 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 7: was I always yeah, did, but but but I always 619 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 7: wanted to know it. That's a mother, you know, that's 620 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 7: that's something more. That's why when when you tell your 621 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 7: mama gonna be your bitch, you thought it was funny. 622 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 7: But I did think it was funny. But still no 623 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 7: matter if me and her, me and my mom wasn't 624 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 7: getting along there, but still one thing was I'm never 625 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 7: going to have the child respect them, disrespect their mother 626 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 7: because I saw the sacrifice some mom made for her, 627 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 7: you know, even dealing with my crazy ass back in 628 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 7: the day. Because I won't forget it. Our Christmas party, 629 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 7: this was about I don't know, long time ago I 630 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 7: told you. I don't know if you might never told 631 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 7: you what I told her? 632 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: Is this when I when is this? When they came 633 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: they came to the d This was the first time. 634 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: It was New Year's. 635 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 7: It was New Year's. 636 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that day. I'll never forget it because 637 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: it was the first time my parents ever celebrated any 638 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: holiday together. I was like literally going in the bathroom 639 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: crying by myself, like tears of joy. I was like you, 640 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: like it was right. It was like a year for Iri. 641 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 7: Damn, yeah, it was. It was a long time ago. 642 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: It was like six years ago. 643 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 7: It wasn't It wasn't that long ago. 644 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: Six years ago. 645 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 7: It wasn't that long ago. I mean. And I told 646 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 7: her Mom, I said, I said, I want to talk. 647 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 7: I told her, I want to talk to you about something. 648 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 7: And uh, I said. Then I said, I want to 649 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 7: say this. I said, you know when you always agreed 650 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 7: on things, and uh she said. I said, but I 651 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 7: just want to say you say to you that I 652 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 7: just want to thank you for being a good mom 653 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 7: to child. I said, because I know, I said, I 654 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 7: wasn't easy to deal with. I said, I said, you 655 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 7: did a great job with Erica. I said, no, I 656 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 7: wasn't now all the time. And she said, Erica, I 657 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 7: just can't believe you saying And I couldn't believe I 658 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 7: was saying because I mean I told her one day, 659 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 7: she said, one day we might be friends. When we 660 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 7: was younger, I said I would never be your friend. 661 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 7: I told her that I would never be friends. But 662 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 7: just to go, you show you how all of us 663 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 7: grow and change. I mean it is I mean because 664 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean I talked to mom like I 665 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 7: talked to an about it. 666 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: Honestly. I mean I never thought i'd say the day 667 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: because like growing up, there was always such a big 668 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: divide and there was always like I was in the 669 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: middle playing telephone like tell your mom, tell you God, 670 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: damn so good, and it just just never never I 671 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: just kind of I never had hope in it. I 672 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: just kind of just like my parents, this is what 673 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: it is. And now to see the relationship you have 674 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: with my mom is so surreal. Sometimes like my mom 675 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I talk to your dad. I'm like 676 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: what me, No, not you actually. 677 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 7: Just that we're talking about. 678 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: But I love I mean, I love that, and I think, yeah, 679 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: I think that's you know, and I think seeing that also, 680 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: I think, well, because of your my mom and yours relationship. 681 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: Growing up, I didn't want to have kids, and I 682 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think I even want kids, like, 683 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: because you just never know how things are gonna end up. 684 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna end up with the person, 685 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: you don't know what the relationship is going to be, 686 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: and it just seems real hard. So but then when 687 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: I you know, now that I have one, of course, 688 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't regret it, but I'm not I'm not with 689 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: her father. But seeing the progress, I'm so glad I 690 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: got to see all the bad shit turn into something 691 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: good because now that I I am raising Iri as 692 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: a single mom, it's so important. I know that we 693 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: can cut through all that. We'll have to do all that. 694 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: Let's just not do that, like I kind of let 695 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: it wait twenty five Yeah, let's do that, Like, yeah, 696 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: we gotta go through some stuff to get to the here, 697 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: Like and I realize that because me and him have 698 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: only been separated for a year and a half, and 699 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: obviously this took like twenty five years in the beginning, 700 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: But like, I know that it's possible it happen. Yeah, 701 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, I know if my parents can come together, 702 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: like and they had a lot of squater under the 703 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: bridge a lot, Like I know that I can too. 704 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 7: Let me tell you, you're right, that's true. Because you know, 705 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 7: I can honestly say, and this is I saw almost embarrassed. 706 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 7: That's it the things you embarrassed a by. When you 707 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 7: say that you thought, I mean I had. I had, 708 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 7: as you tell it, I had an unnatural hatred for 709 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 7: her mother, unnatural hatred. And I said to me, I'm 710 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 7: so glad. I don't feel like that at all. And 711 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 7: I never thought that I'd go away. To me, it's 712 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 7: like it's funny, and I'm like, how could I feel 713 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 7: like the way about it? That's that's that's your daughter's mom. 714 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 7: I mean, I can think of my good friend who's 715 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 7: passed on bird named lewis Combe Bird. He would say, Eric, 716 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 7: he said, Man, that's the child's mother. Man, you can't 717 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 7: be here. I said, Man, I say that ain't gonna change. 718 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 7: He said one day, Well I never thought it would. 719 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 7: But like I say, man, all that that went on 720 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 7: between us, no matter what. 721 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: Do you think it was that? Like was it you 722 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: having other cards? That kind of Eric? 723 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 7: I just think it was just maturity. You just like 724 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 7: I say, being immature, And I say this selfishness. Men 725 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 7: were selfish? You know, man, we don't you don't want 726 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 7: it like me? And I'm a. I'm a realist. I 727 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 7: just I tell it like it is. You might not 728 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 7: like it, but it's the truth. Even by myself. I 729 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 7: was immature and I had a just uh I you know, 730 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 7: and I I get I sometimes I'm a I got 731 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 7: that burgo when I get that, when I get a 732 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 7: hard on for you, it's on it, it's it's it's 733 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 7: it's not going in right. And I just had to 734 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 7: let that go because you know, I saw it how 735 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 7: it would divide us too. You know, it would divide 736 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 7: me and you, and I didn't want I didn't want that. 737 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 7: I didn't want to have the relationship. When I think 738 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 7: about I look at Richard, my real dad. I don't 739 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 7: have no badges. I don't I don't have nothing against Richard. 740 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 7: I don't really know Richard. I know it, but I 741 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 7: don't really know it. Like if I say, I'm like, 742 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 7: it was that Richard, you know, but I don't bother. 743 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 7: It's no, it's it's Richard is like that guy walking 744 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 7: down the street over there. I mean that's I mean, 745 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 7: that's I mean, that's how I feel about it, and 746 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 7: nothing nothing, And I don't have no hatred for him, 747 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 7: nothing like that. But you know, I make sure I 748 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 7: don't make sure that we didn't I had I didn't 749 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 7: have that with my daughter. I wanted to make sure 750 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 7: that you know, she knew me, you know, and and 751 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 7: knew all about me how much I love her, even 752 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 7: though for my shortcomings I mean with her mother and 753 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 7: and it was a lot. I mean, I can say 754 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 7: it was a lot on me and her too, but 755 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 7: it's a lot of me because you know, it was 756 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 7: just just being yon and dumb, like you. 757 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 6: Took away like your young single baby less freedom. 758 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: Nah. 759 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I guess in a sense, but no, 760 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 7: I I gotta say I feel bad because a lot 761 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 7: of time I didn't see Ercka for a long time, 762 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 7: and like three years at one point when she was born. 763 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 7: I mean, and think about that, when you a child 764 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 7: child used to see the dad boy or girl you 765 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 7: need to see. You need to have a r a 766 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 7: bond with your child. And that's something I can't redo, 767 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 7: you know, And I regret that. But like I said, 768 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 7: I was twenty six years old, you know, playing sports, traveling, 769 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 7: you know, girls and they tell you how great you're 770 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 7: on that little kind of crap. But you know, I 771 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 7: can say this much, and you know, what really really 772 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 7: Kemp would kept beating into my head my. 773 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: Mom about old oh I remember, cause I man. 774 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 7: She would not let it go. She said, Eric, I 775 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 7: wanna see that child. I wanna see her. I mean, 776 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 7: both of 'em helen to, they wanted to see you. 777 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: The w that was. 778 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 7: I'm like, nah, I mean they want, they want, they 779 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 7: would not. That's a baby, Eric, you know. And and 780 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 7: then after awhile I could hear my mother, you know, 781 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 7: just saying there, that's a child. You can't you can't. 782 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 7: Maybe she don't, she don't deserve that. You know, she 783 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 7: didn't do nothing so for me, you know, just over time, 784 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 7: you know, the barriers started letting down, and I talked 785 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 7: to her mother and we talked, we laughed about certain 786 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 7: things and you know, wouldn't argue anymore about money. And 787 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 7: you know, it's my weekend. You didn't come pick up 788 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 7: today and you know, and so so you know, it's 789 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 7: just it's just you just change. I mean you really do. 790 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 7: You you change. That's why I say people can change, 791 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 7: they really can, but you gotta want to change. I 792 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 7: mean I could, I could chew, I could have chosen 793 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 7: to still be angry. You just lost all the years, 794 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 7: all the years of mine, well my daughter, my grandma, 795 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 7: grandchild here Iri, I mean that would that would have 796 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 7: been horrible. 797 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: So do you think that because do you think that 798 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: because your fault, because your faught because Richard wasn't around 799 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: even after you discovered this, that this happened. Did you 800 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: ever feel like an abandonment from your dad? Because I 801 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: know you had a father. 802 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 7: But like not really now I know, you know, not 803 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 7: at all. But my dad was Kirie Dickerson. That I mean, 804 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 7: that was my dad. 805 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: I mean because I mean I made my dad reach 806 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: out to. 807 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 6: So prior to that, you never had reached out to 808 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 6: him before. 809 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 7: I talked to him. I talked to him, I seen him, 810 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 7: but I was. 811 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: Kind of like, you know, you want to see the 812 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: meeting because like in you know, in middle school, we 813 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: started doing this genealogy things in the family tree. It's 814 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: always so funny for black people because it always ends 815 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: like quick black before slavery. My great grandparents like but no, 816 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: but where are you from? Like I don't know, I 817 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: hate that, but they would ask me about like you know, 818 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: the simple it's it's very it's very quick step into 819 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: the family tree with me, Like grandfather it's like, well, 820 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: I never knew Carrie. 821 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 6: Oh he passed it. 822 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: He was seventeen, and so I was like, and I 823 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: knew that my biological grandfather was still live, and I 824 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: was like, so one time, I think I asked my 825 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: dad if I could talk to him on the phone 826 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: and ask him some questions, and so I think I 827 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: was in like probably it was around twelve, and so 828 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: I called him, we asked questions, and that was the 829 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: last time I talked to him. And then so this 830 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: day no, So then my dad reconnected with his met 831 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: his sister. Yeah, so Richard when I had other children, 832 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: so he had a sister and she reached out to 833 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: my dad and they started forming in a relationship. And 834 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: then I met her and she was like, you know, 835 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: my dad knows about like about you, obviously, do you 836 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: want to meet him? And I was like yeah, So 837 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: I went to Texas and I met him. And it's 838 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: crazy because my dad looks a lot like him. Really, 839 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: he's like he's lighter than him. But then I see 840 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: I see myself too, and it's so weird to meet 841 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: someone that you've never met, like obviously as you're related 842 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: to you. 843 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, but when I look at you out there. I 844 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 7: see I see Helen, Helen, Man, I see I see 845 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 7: my mother. She looked just like you, even your sister, Eric, 846 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 7: I mean Carrie, just like my mother Helen. But yeah, 847 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 7: I mean I didn't. I mean, man, I just I didn't. 848 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 7: I didn't feel that for Richard. I mean when I 849 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 7: lost my dad. When my dad died, it devastated me. Really, 850 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 7: I mean I was devastated. I mean he I was 851 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 7: seventy senior years old. I remember the day to this. 852 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 7: I st remember the day he died November third, nineteen 853 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 7: seventy seven. I was an ad class like, I will 854 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 7: never forget what it was. I used to see that 855 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 7: whole scene all over again. That's how devastated I was. 856 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 7: I was mad at God because I said, why am 857 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 7: I because my man, my dad, and people say this, 858 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 7: my dad was a good man, I mean a good 859 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 7: Christian man. And you know, you see when you you know, 860 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 7: you see how people act, you see their actions. How 861 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 7: my dad was always soft spoken. He talks soft but 862 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 7: their deep voice. But you know, if he said Eric, 863 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 7: I'm like, oh oh oh, I must be in trouble. 864 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 7: And so you know he was such a such a 865 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 7: good man. I had a buddy of mine, he said, 866 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 7: he said, Eric, he said, my grandmother, he said, my grandmother. 867 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 7: He said, I never met your dad. He said, my 868 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 7: grandmother didn't like nobody. He said, nobody, she said, but 869 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 7: she talked about your dad. She said that mister Dick's 870 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 7: Cary Dixon. And she I was a good man. She said, 871 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 7: he that was a good man. And so when that see, 872 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 7: that made me see that it's true. I know it's 873 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 7: true because because because my dad was just he was 874 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 7: just that guy. It was always about the Bible and 875 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 7: God that that always came first to him. And you know, 876 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 7: but I didn't have him long, you know, I didn't 877 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 7: have him long at all. And still and a lot 878 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 7: of things that he taught me, like just like you know, forgiveness, 879 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 7: you know, forgiveness, you gotta forgive something. You can't hold 880 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 7: these things, and you know, and like I said, he 881 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 7: died when I was young. There's so much he taught 882 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 7: me that little bit of time that I still remember. 883 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 7: And I think that's why, you know, after a while, 884 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 7: so many years, you know, me and how Mom was 885 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 7: able to put you know, my part just kind of 886 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 7: let just let it go. I mean, just just just 887 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 7: let it go, and this man, it's great now. I mean, 888 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 7: I mean when I talked to. 889 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: My laugh talk, I mean it's probably away. I mean 890 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: I always say like this too, like I can hold 891 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: on to some ship too, like I'm good at that, 892 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: And but when you let it go, it just. 893 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 7: Felt so much better, so much better. 894 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, we spend so much energy being mad. 895 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: It takes more energy. 896 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 7: It takes more energy to be mad because people say, man, 897 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 7: I said, oh no, cool, really people, I'm cool with 898 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 7: be in now. Yeah. 899 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 2: H How do you think from your perspective as his daughter, 900 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: how do you think that affected you? 901 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: Growing up? 902 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 6: Like they're they're they're not getting along, or him being 903 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 6: an athlete. 904 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: Like now that you're thirty one and you have your 905 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 2: own child and now you're a single mom, how how 906 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 2: do you think that that affected you. 907 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: I think it greatly affected me. Like I mean, like 908 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: you said, like, I think daughters need their fathers, and 909 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: I think because of that, that's why I was like, 910 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to have kids, because I was like 911 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: I I it was really rough growing up, and you 912 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: know their relationship was I just figured it. 913 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 7: Was never gonna it was never gonna be it was 914 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 7: boltily sometimes. 915 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, I think also because you know I I 916 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: I D I didn't have him around all the time. 917 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to deal with men either or boys, 918 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: or like how to like talk about things too. I 919 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: I I developed didn't have it early on about like, uh, 920 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: like not letting my emotions go. So what anytime I 921 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: would talk about my my mom would be like, do 922 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: you wanna talk about like your dad? And I'd be 923 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: like hate yo, Like I don't wanna talk about and 924 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: that just like exploded. You're like, Okay, let's let's try 925 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: that again next time. I just I think I like 926 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: learned to like just hold a lot of things in 927 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: and like I think as our relationship has grown, and 928 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: I remember, like one day you called me and you 929 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: were like, I wanna, I need to talk to you, 930 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: and like we sat down. I'll never forget. It was 931 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: in the commons at that fish king place, and you 932 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: told me that mama had covin and you had a 933 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: dream about about our relationship. 934 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 7: And she told you like you needed to talk to 935 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 7: talk to you and. 936 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: You did, and I cried, and a lot we both cried. 937 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: And I think that was like the beginning of us 938 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: really like letting like starting to let everything go and 939 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: and work on and work on our relationship. Yeah, do 940 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: I think our relationship is perfect? No? Do I think 941 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: like the the what's happened in the past, do I 942 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: L do I D I look at you like my dad. 943 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't have any other dad, even like my like 944 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: my my mom's be married. And I never like looked 945 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: at As a matter of fact, I would tell him 946 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: all the time, which is probably why me and him 947 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: have a difficult relationship, because I was a very adamant 948 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: about you're not my dad, you know, and like that's 949 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: hard for like someone coming in to a a relationship 950 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: with a single mom. So I'm I'm always I'm actually 951 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: curious about, like ior, like how she would deal with that, 952 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: how like because I know I was not having it 953 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: like when you start to date someone a news seriously 954 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah mm, but you know I did. I always respected 955 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: my dad, and I w I did fear him most 956 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: of my life. I did cause he would cause you 957 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: would come in and out and then like you'd you'd 958 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: have like my mom has had a different way of disciplining. 959 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 7: Me my rules and then you had your rules, and 960 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 7: your rules. 961 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: Were very much like you know, strict and like I 962 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: go get the switch and i'm'a i'm'a beat trapped and 963 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: do that again. I my mom have never talked to 964 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: me like you' and I'm like, oh my god, like 965 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm never like i'd be tiptoeing through his house. I 966 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: remember you like no shoes in the house, and I 967 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: was running in the house like I not want to 968 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: get in trouble with my dad. And my mom threatened 969 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: to call my dad to be like, fuck, this is 970 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna be this is the time he's gonna be spank me. 971 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: Cause I don't never think you ever really spent mere. 972 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 7: I think after a one time, I think it's maybe 973 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 7: you one time. I won't forget it one time and 974 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 7: I made you stand in the corner at the house 975 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 7: and I still have a picture of it, and she's 976 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 7: looking over his shoulder like this, and my mom said, 977 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 7: oh my goodness. 978 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: Right, well, it's always the grandma's that come in and 979 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: suddenly they're nice. They're not disciplinaries anymore. They don't bring 980 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: a shotgun, dowt no. But I think I think it's 981 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: definitely it definitely affected me for sure. You know, I 982 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: don't know how it couldn't, you know. I think that's 983 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: why I think it's so important for Irie to have 984 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: her father in her life. And I think I go 985 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: with sometimes above and beyond, but a normal person, I 986 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: tolerate more than someone else might because like it's so 987 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: important there were relationship to me comes first before anything 988 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: that me and him are going through. And it's like, 989 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: you know, our relationship is not perfect at all. We're cool. 990 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: He came over today. We were cool, you know. But 991 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what I just want 992 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: her to to not ever say like my you know, 993 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: like my dad didn't show up, he didn't come, He 994 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: didn't he wasn't here, he wasn't there, like, and I 995 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: never want him to feel like I didn't give him 996 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity, right. You can never say it was You 997 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: can never say that I didn't say you could come, 998 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: you know. And you know, I think also I think Dad, 999 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: like I don't know if you. I think that you 1000 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: having other kids has made you more like kids that 1001 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: live in your house, but you're like raising daily, you know, 1002 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: it gives you like a different perspective. Like I've seen 1003 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: you change. I have I've even seen your changes. I'll 1004 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: never forget that this was one time you took me 1005 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: to like Disneyland or something. I was really young, and 1006 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm my best behavior and there was a little kid 1007 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: in line and he was acting a fool, like acting crazy. 1008 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: And my dad, this is before he had other kids 1009 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: and taking mind, you know, like I was like, I 1010 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: didn't see him a lot. So we were like having 1011 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: your trip together, and it's like and irote my best 1012 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: behavior and the kid was having a fit. My dad 1013 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: was like, if Dad, what the was my kid? I 1014 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: would take and I would who the ship up? This is? 1015 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: And the kid because the kid was going on he 1016 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: was having a blow on tangent in the line of 1017 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: a roller coaster. So we were having to colerated thirty minutes. 1018 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: So my dad was losing his temper. And I was like, 1019 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is why I'm going to be 1020 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: so good this trip because none of that. But now, 1021 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: like having two kids living in like I see and 1022 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: I see Dallas and I see Carrie have their moments, 1023 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: and I see the patience that you didn't have in 1024 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: that line. Because it's different. 1025 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 7: It's different your kid, but it's different when you get 1026 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 7: older too. I gotta say it's older, because I mean 1027 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 7: your sister, Eric, I mean Carrie, that. 1028 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: Was that was karma. Next girl is going to be. 1029 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 7: So bad. I mean I whooped up. I whooped the 1030 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 7: ass too. I tell her, I just told her a 1031 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago. You know, she wanted to talk 1032 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 7: back to her mom. I said, him explaining something to you. 1033 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 7: I said, you thirteen, I said, I beat your ass. 1034 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 7: I said, let you know, I still whoop your ass. 1035 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 7: You do understand that, don't you? Your dad I said, 1036 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 7: know that. I mean I don't mess around. I mean, 1037 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 7: I'm the disciplinarians. That's how i was taught. I feel 1038 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 7: like my big thing is I gotta say it makes 1039 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 7: you feel good as a parent when people talk command 1040 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 7: your child about how good that. I won't forget. We 1041 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 7: had a you're probably twenty years old, Erica and you 1042 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 7: at the house one day and it was some guys, 1043 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 7: some of my friends there with their wives, and they 1044 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 7: weren't even to get like systematically. One guy said, man Verry, 1045 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 7: Erica's such a sweet child, and she's such a nice girl. 1046 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 7: It's such a lady. I mean, you know how much 1047 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 7: good that made me feel. That's what that's one of 1048 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 7: the reasons. I want to tell her mom, great job 1049 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 7: she did, yeah, because I mean I didn't do all 1050 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 7: that right. And but but she says, say man, and 1051 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 7: it another got may may Eric. It was such a 1052 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 7: nice girl. Man, she's such a sweet person. And that 1053 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 7: made me feel good. And I told Carrie, I said care, 1054 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 7: I said, I want people to say, you know, you're 1055 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 7: a good child, not that bad ass child over that 1056 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 7: doing stuff. And one day when the grocery store on 1057 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 7: the guy came up and he said, Eric, man's wanna say, man, Yes, ye, 1058 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,439 Speaker 7: daughter is such a nice girl, such a sweet child. 1059 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 7: It made me think of you. I say, and and 1060 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 7: not that that is cu that that that's that's an 1061 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 7: enjoyment for me to hear that. I mean, most definitely 1062 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 7: I can still be tough. But you know mostly I'm 1063 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,919 Speaker 7: talking now, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't 1064 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 7: like I still I tell him I'm gonna be ass now. 1065 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 7: But you know that voice, I think the voice scares 1066 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 7: are more than anything. But I can say this much 1067 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 7: as it's nothing like having kids. I I'm I I 1068 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 7: still have I still have regrets. And I mean I 1069 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 7: just said to Erica, I have regrets. So you know 1070 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 7: what happened with me and your mom and the time 1071 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 7: I didn't get chance to spend with you. But I'm 1072 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 7: you know, you can't never make up the time. But 1073 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 7: I'm glad I have the time, and I'm glad. I'm 1074 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 7: glad to where I'm at with you now, you know it, 1075 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 7: And I have a I have a granddaughter. You know, 1076 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 7: it's just it, it's it's a good thing. I'm gonna 1077 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 7: say that and just watch girl. God. I I tell 1078 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 7: I tell M M young men this all the time. Man, 1079 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 7: take time with your kids, man, because you one day 1080 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 7: you're gonna look up. I remember when you were little. 1081 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 7: I still have the picture when I took you over 1082 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 7: to uh David Househof's house, you riding up riding that 1083 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 7: riding a horse on a merry go round. I still 1084 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 7: got that picture in my house. I mean, I I remember. 1085 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 7: You know, there's times, you you know those times go fast. 1086 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: But do you think your kids teach you lessons most. 1087 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 7: Deep than they do? I mean they do. They try 1088 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 7: to teach you pay especially when the when a kid 1089 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 7: tells you like you hurt their feelings or something you know, 1090 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 7: and you too rough on them, you know, even because 1091 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 7: curious hitting me. Yeah, you kind of rough on Dallas. 1092 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 7: You know, kay, I feel bad for him, like like 1093 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 7: like physically or like yes, because when she when he 1094 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 7: he told her, he told, carry told, I mean, Dallas told. Okay, okay, 1095 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 7: my my daughter's name is my other daughter name is Carrie. 1096 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 7: And and your brother's his name is Dallas, my son, 1097 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 7: and he's six, and she's she's at this time, she 1098 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 7: was twelve when it happened. And so I was I 1099 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 7: was wrong, I was, I was, I was mad at him, 1100 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 7: but I forgot what it was. And she came to me. 1101 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 7: Carrie said, Dad, she said, you kind of rough on Dallas. 1102 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 7: I said, I said, why would you see what he said? 1103 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 7: Say he came, She said, he came and he looks 1104 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 7: so sad. He said, See he don't like me, he said, 1105 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 7: so he don't he he loved you. He don't my dad, 1106 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 7: he don't. He don't even like me. That made me 1107 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 7: feel bad. That makes you mad, made me feel real bad. 1108 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 7: So you know, I'm not I'm not. I'm not as tough. 1109 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 7: I'm not as tough for her, cause he's tough. I mean, 1110 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 7: he's tough too. But you know, of course you sobbing 1111 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 7: up and you get keeps specting me. I'm telling you 1112 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 7: everything is with age, and I never believe that you know. 1113 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 7: But let me just tell you when you get older 1114 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 7: and you start seeing your life go before, I just 1115 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 7: start seeing you get old looking like me, looking like 1116 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 7: your grandmother. Cause you know, like I'm I tell I 1117 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 7: tell Carrie this, I tell even tell Dallas this. I said, 1118 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 7: I want y'all, I tell when I'm trying to explain 1119 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 7: to you, I said, it's one day your dad and 1120 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 7: not gonna be here. I tell her, said, I tell 1121 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 7: it it's going to school. When before she had me, 1122 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 7: before Dallas was born, I said, one day, carry, I'm 1123 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 7: gonna die, I said. And I want you to remember 1124 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 7: these times, and the same thing with you, Eric, I 1125 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 7: want you to remember the times because I'm gonna die. 1126 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 7: One day I won't be here, and you remember the 1127 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 7: times that we laughed and talked and did this interview. 1128 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 7: You know, you listen to it thirty years from now. 1129 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 7: But it's true. But my dad, you say the same 1130 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 7: thing to me, he says, say, son, he said, one 1131 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 7: day I won't be here, Son, I'm gonna be gone, 1132 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 7: he said, And I'm telling you that because I tell 1133 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 7: any parent, you know, one day we're gonna die and 1134 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 7: O kids gonna miss us and we're gonna miss you too, 1135 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 7: because I'm matter of fact. My dad has been dead, 1136 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 7: but I think forty two years now and I've still 1137 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 7: cried about him dying. Think about it, start crying, and 1138 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 7: that's that just shows you know how much I love 1139 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 7: my dad and you know I miss him. I mean, 1140 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 7: and like I tell, I tell my kids and I'll 1141 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 7: tell you. I said, I'm not ready to die. I 1142 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 7: don't get me read, but but I'm not afraid to die. 1143 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 7: But I can't wait to see my mom and dad again. 1144 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 7: I I can't wait for that day for me to 1145 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 7: see Mama and daddy and Helen all you know, all 1146 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 7: my all my folks is gone, and it'll be the 1147 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 7: same day when you know, when when when you get older. 1148 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 7: In Irib, you said, it's it's a it's a cycle 1149 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 7: in it, and that's a That's the great thing about 1150 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,879 Speaker 7: life is if you do it right, and it's never 1151 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 7: gonna be perfect. Know this, I mean you and Freddy 1152 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 7: men Penny. I mean, none of these relationships are perfect. 1153 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 7: I'm I mean, it's just I mean, people listening here. 1154 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 7: Nothing's perfect out there. You can look at you next 1155 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 7: door neighbor say, man, they got the perfect, perfect kids, perfect, 1156 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 7: But you don't know what's going in that household, right, 1157 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 7: nothing's perfect. The relationships ain't never perfect. Relationships are hard, 1158 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 7: they are. I mean, it's hard raising kids. It's it's 1159 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 7: a it's a it's a job. It's something you have 1160 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 7: to be dedicated to. And but mothers, I mean, man, 1161 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 7: if you got a good mama, ain't nothing like it. 1162 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 7: I mean, I see you as a mom. You know 1163 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 7: how you deal with Iri. I see Penny how she 1164 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 7: deals with with with with carrying dolls. And these good mamas. Man, 1165 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 7: it's it's it's it's the best thing because moms and 1166 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 7: they just so rare. Are good mother, a good parent there, 1167 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 7: they're rare. They're rare and in the life, and so 1168 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 7: you know, you know, it's that's it. 1169 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: Do you think you'll be married ever? Have you ever 1170 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:22,919 Speaker 1: been married? Beginning of my like relationship ever? 1171 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 6: Like n dies your kids and mom press you about it. 1172 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 7: My my daughter, my daughter used to press me about it. 1173 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 7: She don't press me, and my daughter said, used to 1174 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 7: press me. He still present me when you're gonna marry 1175 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 7: my mom. I'm already married to your mom. 1176 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: Also, my dad has always just been very real and open, 1177 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: as you can tell from this. So we talk so far, 1178 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: but I'll never forget, like when my d when I 1179 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: I think I told the story to you on the podcast, 1180 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: when I my dad asked me if I lost my virginity, 1181 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 1: and I remember we were a cheesecake factory. We're sitting 1182 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: there and he was like, so are you having sex? 1183 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: And I was like, and he was like, let me 1184 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: just say this real quick. You'll never have sex with 1185 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: as many people as I, so you might as well 1186 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: just tell me, oh, okay, yep. And I was just 1187 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: like I didn't even know what to say. I was like, 1188 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 1: I had so many visuals happening. Is that many things? 1189 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to imagine. And also 1190 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm like asking me a very personal question, I'm all. 1191 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: I also was like, you know, I lost my virginity 1192 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: a bit young too, and it was just like very honest, 1193 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: yeah no, when he asked you fourteen oh shit. And 1194 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 1: I one thing about even though me and my dad, 1195 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: I mused always like like throughout my childhood, you know, 1196 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: struggled to have a very close relationship, and it wasn' 1197 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: until we got much older that we really really worked 1198 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: on it. I always felt comfortable telling him things, I 1199 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: think because we had I don't know, Like there are 1200 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 1: things I tell my dad and I won't tell my mom. 1201 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 7: I know you your mom must say that. She said 1202 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 7: she'll tell you, she won't tell me. 1203 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: I think my dad is doesn't he doesn't judge, he doesn't. Also, 1204 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't have like I think. Also moms we're just 1205 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: so worried all the time too, And like I think 1206 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: dad's how just can't be a little cooler even if 1207 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: they're kind of like freaking outside. I just always feel comfortable. 1208 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: There's even to this day, there's day things I'm like, 1209 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: please don't tell mom. 1210 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, use that. 1211 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: I think I said that the other day. 1212 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 7: Don't don't tell you mom. I'm gonna tell your mom. Yeah. 1213 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 7: I mean I gotta say you right there, because it 1214 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 7: was things you would tell me, things we talk about, 1215 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 7: and I said, I would just tell you to be honest. 1216 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: Man. 1217 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 7: Maybe just first of all, I know what time it is. 1218 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 7: I won't forget when y'all had to party at the 1219 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 7: house and when the girl got on the pool table, 1220 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 7: and dance and and Houston High School. 1221 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: So I asked, you my dad, let me have my 1222 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: dad let me have the graduation party at his house. 1223 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 7: Okay, so I said, I wasn't going for that. I 1224 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 7: said the aster the questions. I said, what you like 1225 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 7: to drink? What you drink? I don't drink. I said 1226 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 7: a lie to me. I know you got I know 1227 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 7: you gottadrink you like. I said, what you like to drink? 1228 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 7: I said, you don't drink. You don't stay at the house. 1229 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 7: You ain't going nowhere, he said, like the apple Martina, 1230 00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 7: I'm an amateur. 1231 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: Drink like lovey, kind of classy for a seventeen year 1232 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: old that I still remember. 1233 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 7: I said, okay, were but you ain't going no where. 1234 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 7: They're gonna stay right here. 1235 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: You got all the album pockets you want, so so yeah, 1236 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that the whole valley came to the house. Okay, 1237 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: every teenager know how I missed this party? Right below. 1238 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: We're letting those right below it. 1239 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 7: You missed the party right now. Alcohol we confiscated from them. 1240 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: O my god. Outside he didn't learn his lesson because 1241 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 1: I had allowen Halloween party and everyone dressed up and 1242 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: hit alcohol in their like Halloween. 1243 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 7: That was funny. 1244 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: The girls guy who was a U p S didn't 1245 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 1: make it. 1246 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 7: Make it. 1247 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 1: The security you really had security security security making everyone 1248 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: take their shoes. Literally, there was a pile. 1249 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 7: It was a pile of shoes piled up our side. 1250 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 1: Someone told you at your dad's house. I'm like, I 1251 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: don't tell you. That's crazy. 1252 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I gotta say. You know, I'm gonna say 1253 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 7: this year, I'm so proud of you. I really am. 1254 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 7: I'm proud of you. I love you. You know you 1255 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 7: I you a good child. I mean, you a good child. 1256 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 7: I mean I know I don't tell you no, but 1257 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 7: I do love you. You you mad. You made me proud. 1258 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 7: You make me don't cry. 1259 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: I love cry too. 1260 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 7: So you make me proud of your dad. I mean, 1261 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 7: really you have you know, I know how hard you 1262 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 7: work for your mother's company, and you do a good job. 1263 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 7: You don't complain, you know. I always tell people about 1264 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 7: my daughter. I say one thing about Erica is she's 1265 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 7: a lot like me in a lot of ways. She 1266 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 7: don't want nothing. She don't want something for nothing. You know, 1267 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 7: my daughter, she works and then it makes me, it 1268 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 7: just makes me feel good that You're not one of 1269 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 7: them kids. That's like these millennials think that they're entitled 1270 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 7: that and I can't stand these entitlements. And and you 1271 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 7: are a good You're a child, You're a good woman. 1272 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 7: You you you're a good young woman. And you know, 1273 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 7: I'm I'm proud of you, my child. I'm thinking, I 1274 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 7: thank God God gave you to me in spite of 1275 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 7: my it's spite of my shortcomings. 1276 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 6: Sometimes you get what you need. 1277 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 7: What you want. 1278 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: But I think I am the way I am because 1279 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 1: because of you, because of you, because of my mom. 1280 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: Seeing both of you work really hard and excel in 1281 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: whatever it is that you put your mind too. Like 1282 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I have immense shoes to fill all 1283 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 1: the time. I'm just like I can't I can't stop. 1284 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: I gotta keep going. They didn't stop, Who would I 1285 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: be to just sit around and just what? Do what 1286 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: you know? And so I've always seen you know your 1287 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 1: work ethic, like you've continue, You've been able to maintain 1288 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 1: an amazing career after football, which is so rare. And 1289 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: like you know, you look at so many of these players, 1290 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: especially in your time, you aren't getting like these contracts 1291 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 1: that these guys are getting, you know, like I know, 1292 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: people come up to you in the street and I'm 1293 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 1: so proud of never I see the number twenty nine 1294 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 1: walking on side on street corners on honky and shit. 1295 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: But but they assume that you had the luxuries that 1296 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: a lot of these new players are afforded, and you've 1297 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: been able to maintain and like you know, sustain, you know, 1298 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: and that's that's a lot of even these guys now 1299 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: that are making five hundred million dollars or however much 1300 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: twenty million dollar contracts, thirty million doll I mean your 1301 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: biggest contract was like a million dollars million five a 1302 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: million five. 1303 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 2: Am. 1304 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: People would laugh at that. Now they've spawn it. 1305 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 2: And I mean just mentioned all the abuse you put 1306 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 2: up as you told us as the house one of 1307 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 2: your games. 1308 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: And was it Indianapolis or oh that they had to 1309 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: sign up with the baby the monkey, Oh yeah. 1310 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,879 Speaker 6: Like a baby chicken and five chicken. It's a water melon. 1311 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 7: Don't I tell you the story when I thought I 1312 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 7: was an Indian when of my come on my last 1313 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 7: year's I want to get the hell out of down. 1314 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 7: You know that place is so racist back then, you know, 1315 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 7: it's racism everywhere you know it. It's part of life. 1316 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 7: It's just it's not gonna change. But they had a 1317 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 7: sign like they you don't have your the banners that 1318 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 7: hang say you know, we love the cold, so we 1319 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 7: love blah blah blah. They had a big sign, a big, 1320 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 7: big sheet hanging down. It had a picture of a 1321 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,479 Speaker 7: black baby be sitting like in a like a sitting 1322 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 7: position with a stack of money on one side, uh 1323 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 7: fried I mean uh watermelons on the other side with 1324 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 7: fried chicken in his hand with my number and stuff 1325 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 7: on it. I'm like wow, I'm like okay. And then 1326 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 7: some of the guys last on the Bruther's laugh. I said, 1327 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 7: on your own team, Yeah, I said, oh, y'all think 1328 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 7: that's funny, I say they talking about I said, y'all 1329 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 7: niggas they just take to change the number, right, said oh, yeah, 1330 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 7: that ain't funny. I said, oh, now you're thinking it 1331 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 7: ain't funny, right. And it stayed up there for a while. 1332 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 7: They I guess they ventually took it down. But you know, 1333 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 7: I never forgot that. I mean, and I can honestly 1334 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 7: say for me, I have had some resentment to that 1335 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 7: organization for that reason. I mean, I played for the 1336 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 7: Colts because they let it hap And I've never forgotten that. 1337 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 7: I mean, people ask me, but you play for the God, 1338 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 7: I said. Man, don't get me wrong, I play for 1339 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,439 Speaker 7: that team. But I just never forgot that. I've never 1340 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 7: forgotten that. And it just that bothered me, that cause 1341 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 7: I know how wrong. I would never do that. I 1342 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 7: w I would never ever do that. But you know, 1343 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 7: people are different, people are crazy. 1344 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: But that I mean, I mean it's between that. Also, 1345 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: growing up in the South, and you know you weren't 1346 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: to segregate, did you were. 1347 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 7: Segregated schools? 1348 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, but but what I've seen is 1349 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: that you have so many white friends that you are 1350 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: your brothers. You know what I mean. You don't like covert. 1351 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 7: Man. Let me tell somebody. Get some of my best 1352 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 7: friends are my best friend or two of my best 1353 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 7: boys a white guy. I don't look at them as white. 1354 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 7: I look at my friend, my brother Randy Mondelo and 1355 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 7: Chris Laidio, then white to me, they just like me, right, Jason, 1356 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 7: I mean, they just they they people. I don't I don't. 1357 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 7: I don't judge the person on this colored skin. You know, 1358 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 7: I always look at the people who do may do crimes, 1359 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 7: and you know, think about them niggas in them nexting 1360 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 7: them wet bags and the chinks. And I said, you 1361 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 7: know that. The sad thing about that, I said, I 1362 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 7: could be that could have been your best friend one day, 1363 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 7: I said, you go murder that woman over there. That 1364 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 7: woman could have been the best thing ever happened to you. 1365 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 7: But you killed her, right, I said, when you when 1366 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 7: you dine and go to hell on the hell they say, 1367 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 7: you know, I'm gonna show you something when the lady 1368 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 7: you killed, that was that was gonna be your wife, 1369 00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 7: That was that was gonna change your whole life. I 1370 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 7: got out that you call an old white cracker does 1371 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 7: be your best friend. He's gonna make you a whole 1372 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 7: bunch of money, But you you made him off. Of course, 1373 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 7: you're a cousse of the ignorance. So I just believe 1374 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 7: that I just judge the person mind who they are. 1375 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 7: You know, all of us have our prejudice, all of 1376 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 7: us said prejudice things and racist thing. That don't mean 1377 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 7: you're a racist, a racist mind who hate a whole 1378 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 7: racist people, But you know it is what it is, 1379 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 7: This life is. 1380 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that the NFL is still a pretty racist, 1381 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: has a big racist culture, or it has it changed. 1382 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it's changed in some ways because 1383 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: the times have changed. But at the end of the day, 1384 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's like all the you know, it's a 1385 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: pretty like white dominated field. Like all the owners are white, 1386 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, pretty much everyone in a lot of the office. 1387 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe the offices are commercifying boys. 1388 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 7: It's white. Look, first of all, it's no black owners. 1389 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 7: That is still a good old white boy system. 1390 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 6: Been people that have tried to be yes, and they 1391 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 6: kind of keep you they keep those people out. 1392 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, they don't want no black owners. I think they 1393 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 7: have an Indian owner now. But yeah, I mean, look, 1394 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 7: the NFL, no. 1395 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Like Kaepernick isn't going to be the one. How do 1396 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: you feel about the whole Kaepernick thing. 1397 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 7: I feel like I feel like it got lost. It 1398 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 7: wasn't about the flag. It was about the injustice of 1399 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 7: police brutality. And it's not even about being black or 1400 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 7: they kill white people that they kill black people. They 1401 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 7: kill most of you know, people who don't have the 1402 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 7: money my no, can't fight back after they kill them. 1403 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 7: But I just feel like that the message got lost. 1404 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 7: I mean, it really did. And who, well, they made it. 1405 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 7: They made it about the flag, and it really wasn't 1406 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 7: about that flag. I mean, and I and I kept 1407 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 7: saying this. I said, we care more about a flag 1408 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 7: and we care about God. That's a flag, that's a 1409 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 7: piece of material. But don't get me wrong, people have 1410 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 7: died on that flag. Men, men, women in our country 1411 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 7: have died because they believe in our freedom and the flag. 1412 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 7: But you know, it's a flag, and it's in the 1413 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 7: big scheme of things. It's the it's the respect fact 1414 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 7: that you have. I mean, just like in the school 1415 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 7: system now, they don't want you to say the flat 1416 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 7: pleasure legions. They don't want you to say God. They're 1417 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 7: talking to schools don't want you to talk about the flag. 1418 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 7: It's just we're so hypocritical. 1419 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: Do you think I thought they wanted to just still 1420 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: do the ladis the school a football game? 1421 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 7: They don't do the schools A lot of schools don't 1422 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 7: do it, not every school. When I was a kid, 1423 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,479 Speaker 7: I knew that was every every day when you got. 1424 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Morning, and you didn't even think about it. Twice my 1425 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: dad used to tell me, not thinking about legs to 1426 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: the flag. 1427 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 7: But you got to think about it. Think about it 1428 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 7: if I from a different country, but I don't. 1429 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, even as Black Americans, I don't pledge. Do 1430 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 1: you think that the what? What is? 1431 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 7: How do we? How do you? 1432 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: How does it start to change? Is that the players 1433 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 1: have to take us down because literally most of the players, 1434 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of black players mostly fact. 1435 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 7: Let me, let me, let me tell you how it 1436 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 7: would change. Let me let me tell you what what 1437 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 7: what would disrupt everything and have to be done just 1438 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 7: to me, just like this. Let's say you got a 1439 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 7: Sunday game, Sunday Sunday game, and you've got the thirty 1440 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 7: two teams, and let's just say not all, because you 1441 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 7: can't get everybody. But let's just say on fifteen football team, 1442 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 7: you gonna take fifteen team. Let's say you had fourteen 1443 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 7: guys on each team, eighteen guys each team. Say for 1444 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 7: the pleasure leading boom, we're not playing. We're not gonna play. 1445 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 6: Oh you can't kneel or whatever. 1446 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 7: We know, we're not gonna put we going back. We're 1447 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 7: not playing period, We're going back to the locker room. 1448 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 7: Oh hell no. Because now the networks like what to me? 1449 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 7: They ain and you don't you don't know when it's 1450 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 7: gonna happen. It's just gonna keep happening. It might skip 1451 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 7: a week, it's gonna keep happening all of a sudden. 1452 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 7: They can't. They can't take that because it's gonna defect this. 1453 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 7: It's gonna take that money. 1454 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 8: That's but then there's con they can't They can't make 1455 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 8: you play. 1456 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 7: They can't make you play. If if you're willing to lose, 1457 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 7: just like this, like le've m bail this year, was 1458 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 7: willing to lose fourteen million dollars, if you will sit 1459 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 7: out and take a stand, a real stand, that's the way. 1460 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: If you have to, you have to say no to 1461 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 1: the money. You have to take that slaves to the money. 1462 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: That's essentially how they got you. It's a different type 1463 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 1: of slaves, a different. 1464 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 7: Type of right, it's a different type of slavery. I said, 1465 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 7: that's a different type. 1466 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 1: Like slavery because they have so much money already. 1467 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Right, if you wanted to do something else, you probably 1468 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: could invest your money else. 1469 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, but the guy did make a lot of the 1470 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 7: guys make a lot of the money. The guys blow 1471 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 7: their money so fast they don't know to have it. Yeah, 1472 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 7: I mean they really don't, well anything else. 1473 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: We have a lot of questions and we don't have 1474 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: that many questions. Okay, some of the questions I'm like, okay, 1475 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 1: I know. 1476 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 6: I saw something like, how did you bag it? 1477 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Athletes? 1478 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 7: How do you bag it? 1479 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, that's all one as a normal, normal woman 1480 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 1: bag athlete, like just a regularly. I read that and 1481 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I was like, don't yeah, Like, but that's only because 1482 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: always I'm you know, it's so funny because my dad 1483 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 1: has always wanted to stay away from athlete, and then 1484 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: you just went. 1485 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 7: To an entertainers essentially the same almost the same thing, 1486 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,919 Speaker 7: but not athletes, not athlete. I'm telling you the worst, 1487 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 7: which the worst with the women thing. I mean as 1488 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 7: fur as I know, because you know athletes, because think 1489 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 7: about most athletes a lot of months good looking, not 1490 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 7: but they got the bodies and they're on television the 1491 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 7: athletic people like that athletic look the athletic look like, girl, 1492 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 7: look at his body, because when a man see a woman, 1493 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 7: he might not see a phase. You're like, whoa boy? 1494 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 7: Look at that body? 1495 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean definitely more to like a football player's body, 1496 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 1: like basketball. Yeah, because in fact we're talking to athletes in. 1497 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 7: General, right, like, yeah, but but see football, see football players. 1498 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 7: We were like most you know, the average hype of 1499 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 7: man sixty three six ' four. You know that that 1500 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 7: that cut that bill. But if I tell a woman, man, 1501 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 7: be careful what you wish for, because you would get 1502 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 7: that baby, you will be stressed out a lot of 1503 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 7: sleepless nights. 1504 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a normal life, and then you know 1505 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 1: you don't want you don't want that whisp you up 1506 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 1: to your to his normal life, and then he'll throw 1507 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 1: you away right back to. 1508 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 7: Normal, normal, normal life. Real sad because one because one 1509 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 7: thing about about about athletes or is that I'm gonna 1510 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 7: say forget athletes. Men just just go down. We're gonna 1511 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 7: go We're gonna go with just men, men and general 1512 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 7: most men, and I'm not saying every man, but I 1513 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 7: guarantee I would say about eighty percent of men are unfaithful, 1514 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 7: and athletes sit. This is probably about ninety nine point 1515 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 7: nine percent of unfaithful. And it's not even that you 1516 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 7: want to be. Sometimes women are aggressive and they don't 1517 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 7: give up. There some of them just relentless till a 1518 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 7: man to the point where you said, oh damn, let's 1519 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 7: just do it shit, Okay, this is get it over with. 1520 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 7: I mean, oh, man, you know I said that when 1521 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 7: this moved me to stuff happened because people say, ask 1522 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 7: me you fir, I say, man, First of all, I 1523 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 7: don't say nothing. I don't say that stuff to women. 1524 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 7: That's just not me. I mean, I'm not saying I'm 1525 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 7: like that classic guy. But I was taught better. I 1526 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 7: just don't. I don't say that. I say, but I've 1527 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 7: had women say stuff to me like, damn baby, I'm 1528 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 7: supposed to say that. You ain't supposed to say that 1529 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 7: to me. It made me really made me feelunkomp Like 1530 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 7: I'm like, oh girl, okay, how you no, girl? Like, oh, 1531 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 7: what you're talking about? 1532 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 1: Aggressive? 1533 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 7: Aggressive groups? 1534 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 1: Just groupies are just in general. 1535 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 7: Always group is. You'll be surprised. I mean, you'd be surprised. 1536 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 7: I would tell people all time. You'll be surprised things 1537 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 7: women would do. It's shocking. I mean, and some said, oh, 1538 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 7: my girlfriend would never do that. I'm like, you don't know. 1539 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 7: Now with you, you don't know your girlfriend. 1540 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 6: I have a question, have you do you do you 1541 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 6: have you ever dated black women? 1542 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 7: Of course? 1543 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 1: Do you date black women? 1544 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 7: Of course? I'm supposed be in a relationship right now. 1545 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: But of course. 1546 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 2: They say infamously like black athletes, rarely they're black women. 1547 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 7: I bet that's several black girlfriends. I mean, I mean, 1548 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I take that back, not girlfriends. I only 1549 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 7: know one. But I've never I've never had a bunch 1550 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 7: of girlfriends period. I can. I can count to girls 1551 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 7: I call girlfriends almost on one hand. I had when 1552 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 7: I was in my first girlfriend, the girl who ruined me, 1553 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 7: who made me the way I am. 1554 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: I always got one girl for Remember you told me this, 1555 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: I never want to feel this way. 1556 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 7: Now you got it. And again, not Judy, Judy Tillman. 1557 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 7: This girl, this girl was Beauty ruined him. 1558 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 1: She died damn. 1559 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 7: Fast away. But she had me strong, she had me 1560 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 7: strong eye and I won't forget. I was at my 1561 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 7: grandparents house in Houston, cause she lived in Houston. Would 1562 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 7: stay down there, be close to him. It was like 1563 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 7: my senior year and I'm going ready to go to 1564 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 7: college and my grandfather one day because you know what 1565 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 7: I think about it, in the bed, the head the 1566 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 7: head boarders up here, and so I had my feet 1567 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 7: up here, in my head down here because we only 1568 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 7: had two phones in the house, that one of the kitchen, 1569 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 7: the one in their bedroom. And my grandfather walked in 1570 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 7: one morning because he said, mmm, got my grandson backed 1571 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 7: in the bee he said, boy, because I was waiting 1572 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 7: for the phone to ring all night upside down. He said, boy, 1573 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,959 Speaker 7: you can't handle he called a jumping judy. He said, 1574 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 7: you can't handle that girl. That girl gonna broke your heart. 1575 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 3: He had. 1576 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,240 Speaker 7: And I will never forget. I'm like, man, if I 1577 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,760 Speaker 7: ever get over this feeling, I will never feel like 1578 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 7: this about a woman again. I said that to myself, 1579 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 7: and I said, and my mother told me to say her. 1580 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 7: Let me tell you something, boy, She said, you always 1581 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 7: let the girl like you by more than you like 1582 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 7: vice versa. She said, because that way, you always in charge. 1583 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 7: And I've never I've never felt that way again. I 1584 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 7: made sure I didn't. I mean, I get me wrong. Yeah, 1585 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 7: I mean I love, but I'm not I'm not crazy 1586 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 7: in love like I can. I can live without you. 1587 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm like, hey, get you another man. I 1588 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 7: would tell him, Hey, if you think I'm that bad, 1589 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 7: get you another one. See he gonna do the same thing, 1590 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 7: you know, but and not not all men are the same. 1591 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 7: But it's just hard day. The athletes. 1592 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: You know, one thing told me the bus it's the 1593 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 1: bus driver. It could be the lawyer, it could be doctor. 1594 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 1: It could be the nerd that you think doesn't get it, 1595 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,599 Speaker 1: trash man like he's probably cheating too. 1596 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 7: It don't make a difference. It's it's the man. It's 1597 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 7: the man in us. It's just hard to say no, 1598 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 7: it really is. It's just it is. It's hard to 1599 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 7: say no. I mean, I hate to say it. 1600 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 1: On that note, I have one last final question. Okay, 1601 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 1: when we talked about bringing you on, we told you 1602 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 1: we had a segment called horror stories. So Holoris horror stories. 1603 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 1: Horror story is a segment where it's like scary horror story, 1604 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 1: horror story. And I feel like it's only appropriate, well 1605 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 1: probably appropriate because you're my dad, but only appropriate that 1606 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 1: we have an athlete on that has had a lot 1607 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: of I'm assuming hotels, and you had mentioned something about 1608 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 1: a Playboy mansion. I don't know, the Playboy party. 1609 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 7: Crazy each my crazy story, like a crazy It. 1610 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 8: Can pertain to you, it can pertain to nothing has 1611 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 8: to be scary, but just sexual, like something where it's 1612 01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 8: very horrishness happened or scary or like, oh my god, 1613 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 8: like it turned and went from something good to very bad, 1614 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 8: some good to very bad. 1615 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 7: But I don't happen to playboy mansin. That was stimmach 1616 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 7: fun that we didn't really do much. It was to mansion. 1617 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 7: Wasn't like that when I got got into the league. 1618 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: But uh, or if you have a friend, you wanna 1619 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 1: share a friend's for her story, maybe it's less personal. 1620 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe I gota share one of those. Huh, 1621 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 7: let's put it like, let's put'm'm'a'm'a t I can tell 1622 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 7: you whole I would tell you a horror horse story. 1623 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 7: So I'm in Indianapolis. I'm in Indie and I had 1624 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 7: a g I there gave me a band to drive, 1625 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 7: like a you know, a band I had. There was 1626 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,599 Speaker 7: a nice band too, And so I went to the club. 1627 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 7: Was that club? Was the name of that club? Uh, gosh, 1628 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,640 Speaker 7: I can't think of the name of the club? Was 1629 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 7: club we used to go to on Friday nights. So 1630 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 7: we go to the club sometime, you know, I get 1631 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 7: the girls in the band go back to you know, 1632 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 7: we go take me to the house. So some of 1633 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 7: the guys, some of the rookies. Uh, one of the rookies. 1634 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 7: I won't say his name. Uh. He said, Man, we 1635 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 7: got some girls wanna go back to the house. Gonna 1636 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 7: go back to the house, I said. I. I said, well, 1637 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,080 Speaker 7: take 'em in the take 'em in the band and 1638 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 7: and and come back and just come back and get 1639 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 7: some get us. So man, we got it. 1640 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 1: It was like. 1641 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 7: Seven girls took it to my house. And I had 1642 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 7: a basement in a basement, so when I come on, 1643 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 7: I get to the house, I mean, I don't see 1644 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 7: nobody else. When I go in the basement, I see, man, 1645 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 7: it's naked girls at the well. I'm like, what going 1646 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 7: on around here? So I mean, god, the guys come 1647 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 7: and taking their clothes off, getting like getting naked, you know. 1648 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,640 Speaker 7: And I walk in the one room as in the 1649 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 7: basements that like the like what air conditioning units? Well, 1650 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 7: I see a girl on her knees. Imbarrassed to say 1651 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 7: this area. It wasn't mean, but I said, I said, 1652 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,880 Speaker 7: girl on her knees. And I just see her head 1653 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,600 Speaker 7: going up and said what is she doing? But the 1654 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,360 Speaker 7: guy's thing was so long it. 1655 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Was like. 1656 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 7: What I couldn't even see him. I just see her. 1657 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 7: He was like he's behind the air condition. I'm like, 1658 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 7: what the hell, I won't say. I still know his 1659 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:01,680 Speaker 7: name too. 1660 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, boy, you're have so many people writing 1661 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 1: you find out married. 1662 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,720 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, oh my god. That so that was 1663 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 7: it's scared. 1664 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, so that's hilarious. Okay, well I'm dad, 1665 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for joining us, Thank you. 1666 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 7: Georgia. So yeah, I didn't tell too much. 1667 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 1: No, it's just a bunch of moms. 1668 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 7: Okay, well all your moms. 1669 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: You know you. 1670 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 7: Don't be no athletes like more up today's episode. Don't 1671 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 7: if you do get your old one. 1672 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they still might not marry, still. 1673 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,479 Speaker 7: Might not marry, but calm down, they want to go 1674 01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 7: to sleep early. Now. 1675 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 1: Well, I hope the Rams win. I think it's it's crazy. 1676 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 1: I was telling my dad, like when the Rams came 1677 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 1: back to La and like, I was like, there's no 1678 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 1: way these I went to a few games. 1679 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 7: It looked too good. 1680 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I was like, it's gonna be a while for them 1681 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 1: to build this franchise up. And they've done it really quickly. 1682 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,679 Speaker 7: Well, now get done it real quickly. I mean people 1683 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 7: don't realize how hard is playing Super Bowl. I mean 1684 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,680 Speaker 7: it's very difficult. I played eleven years and I never 1685 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 7: made your Super Bowl. I played the NFC Championship game 1686 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,479 Speaker 7: and that was like the game that we just played 1687 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,720 Speaker 7: in against New Orleans one game before the super Bowl, 1688 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 7: So it's hard to get there and give I got 1689 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 7: to give credit to the Patriots just then ninth one. 1690 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 7: So that's I mean, I. 1691 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,680 Speaker 1: Feel like they went every years. 1692 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 7: It's crazy they cheat too, but they do. But you know, 1693 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 7: the Rams are going to the super Bowl's big for 1694 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 7: the city of LA I mean, yeah big. I mean 1695 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 7: because they haven't been the super Bowl since nineteen seventy nine. 1696 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,639 Speaker 1: It's crazy out here. It is. We are gonna do something. 1697 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 1: We should probably watch that. 1698 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,639 Speaker 7: You can watch that game. 1699 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, my rams that I need some new updated rams. 1700 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Do you have like Dickerson one? 1701 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 7: I gotta get you. 1702 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,600 Speaker 1: You got no jersey? I have an old I have 1703 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:09,520 Speaker 1: this shirt. 1704 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 7: Of I'm gonna bring it. I' gonna get your jersey. 1705 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,640 Speaker 1: I have a shirt that's probably as old as me, 1706 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 1: but I think it's cold. 1707 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,679 Speaker 7: I'm gonna get your rams. I'nna get your ramp jersey. 1708 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need that. I need that. 1709 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 7: I'm if I can't try to drive it off here. 1710 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,200 Speaker 7: Before I get out of here tomorrow. 1711 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 1: What no pressure? 1712 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I want you. I want you having for 1713 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 7: the game. Yeah, have somebody to deliver it to you, 1714 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:31,599 Speaker 7: but I get You'll get one. 1715 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, thank you for coming. 1716 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,640 Speaker 7: You're very welcome for having me. 1717 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:36,120 Speaker 8: I love you. 1718 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: I love you too, And we will see you guys 1719 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 1: next week. We have a really special guest coming on 1720 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 1: next week. Oh yeah, we do. 1721 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 6: We have a lot of really cool guests coming up. 1722 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 1: We have been on our ship emailing people. Should we 1723 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:50,720 Speaker 1: say who she is? 1724 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 6: So yeah, I'll see you next week and we'll catch 1725 01:14:58,920 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 6: you up on Eric this long. 1726 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 1: Sure okay? 1727 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, and go and go and go, Rams go around. 1728 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 4: Little Banjie Loo's on my knee, sip on a dip 1729 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,960 Speaker 4: making the trick. Wanted to afflict I bloke in my kits, 1730 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 4: in my wied missus the knee, Little Banjie louis on 1731 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,559 Speaker 4: my knee. Bulls bundles guns hit that plug, butted bots 1732 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,759 Speaker 4: chops the pot cause you're bringing up the notes. 1733 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Rock my many staffs and go natural foot some one 1734 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 1: in the common. So we I in the summer. 1735 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 4: So fund bundas hit that plug up, but bundus beauty, 1736 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 4: chop the pots, cats, your bringing up the nose, rock 1737 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 4: my money staffs. Then go natural footing. 1738 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: So if woman in the seat in the summer, please do. 1739 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,320 Speaker 4: Not ask me or any black or brown woman if 1740 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 4: our hair is real or not. 1741 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 5: If it's away a week expansion, great, don't fucking master 1742 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,640 Speaker 5: very road is extremely personal to be put on a 1743 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,720 Speaker 5: spotlight that how we choose to live.