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Speaker 2: Welcome to on sanctioned Thursdays in wrestling with Friday.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the show you demanded because

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Speaker 1: our first show is not long enough and has too

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Speaker 1: many commercials. But they got to pass somehow. People say,

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Speaker 1: thanks for hanging in there. Welcome to unsanctioned Thursdays. I'm

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Speaker 1: here with mister Jeff Dye and our producer Alex. Let's

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Speaker 1: start the show, yeat starting with a yeat, all right,

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Speaker 1: transitioning from yet to somebody who I'm sure would hate

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Speaker 1: the yeat, which is John Moxley. Some post Dynamite footage

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Speaker 1: aired at the top of Collision Saturday show showing the

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Speaker 1: Death Writers with Daniel Garcia, Wheeler Yuda and Claudio Cassignolia

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Speaker 1: abducting Will Osprey carrying him out like the crucified one.

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Speaker 1: And uh now we cut to Collision and we're backstage.

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Speaker 1: We're in like concrete floors, concrete ceiling, concrete pillared room

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Speaker 1: and we have the Death Writers in there, and we

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Speaker 1: have we have Osprey in there, we have Moxley sitting

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Speaker 1: I love a Medica. It's like that, right, except we're

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Speaker 1: in a two shot. We're not over either shoulder, and

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Speaker 1: it holds the two shot the entire the entire scene,

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Speaker 1: a very patient shot, I might add. So Marina Shaffir,

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Speaker 1: she wakes up Moxley, spray some water in his face,

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Speaker 1: know that. And Moxley's like, see she's good man, That's

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Speaker 1: why we keep her around. And then he starts this, uh,

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Speaker 1: And he talks to Ospray and this is the philosophy

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Speaker 1: Jeff and I talked about like two years ago, when

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Speaker 1: Moxley was running the house, had the title and was

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Speaker 1: beating everyone, and his philosophy was, I'm going to break

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to rebuild you in my image, a tougher, harder,

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Speaker 1: more badass Darby Allen a tougher, harder, more badass hangman,

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Speaker 1: Adam Page, A tougher you guys, get the idea. So

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Speaker 1: he's breaking this philosophy down for the first time in

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Speaker 1: a very clear way to will Ospray and saying, look, man, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm your mentor. I'm a sick, demented mentor, but i'm

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Speaker 1: your mentor, and you're now the student, and you have

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Speaker 1: a choice to make. You have to decide what kind

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Speaker 1: of wrestler you want to be. And it's so either

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Speaker 1: one is okay with me. You it's your choice, but

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Speaker 1: the end of this promo he just lays down on

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Speaker 1: here's a steel chair. Go ahead and smash my fucking

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Speaker 1: brains in break my neck the way I broke your neck.

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Speaker 1: Do whatever you want to do or don't, and we

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Speaker 1: can talk and we can kind of see what's it's

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Speaker 1: almost like he's trying to recruit him to the Death Writers,

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Speaker 1: even though he's not. But it's more, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: recruit you to a new way of thinking and a

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Speaker 1: new philosophy on wrestling. I thought this was great. Before

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Speaker 1: Osprey makes his decision, he gets super pissed and goes

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Speaker 1: don't know. We don't know what he did to him.

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Speaker 1: We do because later the Death Writers come out. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: I digress. I loved this. I thought they did a

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Speaker 1: great job. It made the Monday Night Raw bloodline segment

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Speaker 1: where it goes. Jeff, I loved every second of it.

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 2: If you're not watching aew, you're an idiot. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is some of the best stuff I've seen in

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Speaker 2: note on how to really frame up and tell a story.

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Speaker 2: This is really really quality, handcrafted quality shit we're talking here.

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Speaker 2: it's great. So if you've taken a break or you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're missing out, all right. Moving on to WWE,

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Speaker 1: and the news of the week was the releases. Some

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Speaker 1: But Jeff, you had a good philosophy and a good

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Speaker 1: take on this off air, and I'd love for you

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Speaker 1: to reiterate it here and now, if you would be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know. Obviously, nobody wants to lose

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Speaker 2: their job, and anyone listening, no one's happy when someone

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Speaker 2: loses their job, even if arresta loses their job for

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Speaker 2: some some sort of pun. They did something wrong and

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Speaker 2: they lose their job. It is unfortunate when someone loses

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Speaker 2: their job. That being said, a lot of wrestlers aren't

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Speaker 2: being used, and a lot of wrestlers are being misused,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of wrestlers are just wasting space, if

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Speaker 2: you will. This is a this is a very big business,

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Speaker 2: and we need more time for wrestling stories, and some

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Speaker 2: people are fighting for airtime. This can be a blessing

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Speaker 2: to be released, because now you can go find where

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Speaker 2: you belong. You can find where they're gonna use you,

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Speaker 2: you can find where they're gonna appreciate you. You can

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Speaker 2: You use the the example of Zach Ryder or Matt

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Speaker 2: Cordona as we know, like he was not being used.

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Speaker 2: I can't I know what Alistair Black or Malachi or

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Speaker 2: there on these things who need to be released. Get

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Speaker 2: they can shine. It's better than them sitting backstage. In Gorilla,

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Speaker 2: wondering when some writer who's been working for WB for

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Speaker 2: paired up with our truth mispronouncing people's names. Listen, these

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Speaker 2: layoffs and releases can be a good thing.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go through some of the names that

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Speaker 2: do it. Everyone's chanting bring back Kyrie. Everyone's doing the hashtag,

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Speaker 2: you know, bring back Kyrie. Listen. She was, Yes, she

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Speaker 2: I pushed back on all of this, like, but she

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Speaker 2: I guess, a delight in the in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: But let's not pretend like she had some pivotal storyline

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Speaker 1: You said misused earlier in the show. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the best the best bit of describer misuse talent. Next

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Speaker 1: was Alistair Black and Selena Vega. He was on TV

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Speaker 1: I don't think they knew what to do with him

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Speaker 1: or just didn't I don't know, but they released him

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Speaker 1: and his wife, Selena. She talked about it on her stream.

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Speaker 1: how she feels about it. The Wide Six not a surprise.

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Speaker 1: They had a great build up and then nothing, no,

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Speaker 1: no meaningful matches, not a single meaningful match. The tag

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Speaker 1: they were trying to protect the guys that aren't good talkers,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta let them talk. Eventually, the belts

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Speaker 1: alone don't do it. That's not the nineteen eighties. So

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Speaker 1: this wasn't a big surprise. But again it's unfortunate. Sad

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Speaker 1: And then finally Santos Escobar, who was in Triple A

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Speaker 1: he got released while being injured, which is never a

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Speaker 1: good thing. But I think ae W is the spot

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Speaker 1: for him. I think he could actually do really well

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Speaker 1: Champa can do really really well there. I think Santos

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Speaker 1: better there than he does. He has someone to speak

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Speaker 1: for him in don Kallis that is one of the

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Speaker 1: best right now and with the strongest shoe slash sunglasses

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Speaker 1: game in the in the game today. But yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I think he could do really well over there, and

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Speaker 1: that's pretty much that. There's others too, but those are

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Speaker 1: the main ones. A couple former guests of the show

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Speaker 1: and Zelina and Santos. So I'd love to you guys,

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Speaker 1: and I wish you guys the best man any any

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Speaker 1: closing thoughts, Jeffrey, I will say.

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Speaker 2: That these releases seem more interesting than they really are

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Speaker 2: because these are all really famous wrestlers. That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: These are all like really big names, you know, alistair Bags,

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Speaker 2: leneve All, the Wyatt six, MotorCity machine Guns, Kyrie saying

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Speaker 2: Santa Ascobar. They're all names. We know they're big wrestlers.

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Speaker 2: But every one of those wrestlers has the same thing

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Speaker 2: in common. They weren't being used. They weren't being fully

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Speaker 2: given their you know, their flowers, they weren't given opportunities

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Speaker 2: argument for both where it's like, yeah, of course release them,

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Speaker 2: they're not being used, and and shame on w B

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Speaker 2: for not finding a place for them to be used

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Speaker 2: and giving them good stories and letting them shine. But also,

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Speaker 2: of course they released them. They're not being used. So

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Speaker 2: it's kind of it kind of answers its own problem. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I hope all those wrestlers I get

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Speaker 2: they come back. But yeah, I think all of them

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Speaker 2: make total sense, even though they are all really good wrestlers.

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Speaker 1: That's Hip DII from Pretty Prince On behalf of our

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Speaker 1: producer Alex. You guys, have a great day, enjoy your

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Speaker 1: week of wrestling. We'll speak to you next week, and

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Speaker 1: pretty much every week we're out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah,