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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. We have

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Speaker 2: Matt Kim with us. Internet guy, or I should say

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Speaker 2: famous internet personality with huge following from Instagram to YouTube

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Speaker 2: to all the other places. So, my friend, how did

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Speaker 2: you become Matt Kim? The audience won't be familiar with

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Speaker 2: you because I've never had you on before. Tell me

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Speaker 2: about all things, Matt Kim.

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Speaker 3: So, I'm just a guy from the corner of Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I decided one day that I wanted to start talking

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Speaker 3: to a camera. I think, just more frustration and how

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Speaker 3: the world is going. I recently had a daughter at

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Speaker 3: the time, it was a little bit over a year

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Speaker 3: and a half ago, and I just one of those

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Speaker 3: things where you just start talking and I don't know

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Speaker 3: what happened. It would just started listening. It happened really fast.

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Speaker 3: I've only been doing this for maybe a little bit

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Speaker 3: over a year.

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Speaker 2: Wow, You've yeah done very well, sir. So I know

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Speaker 2: a little bit of your background from watching some of

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Speaker 2: your content, which is how I had you here. Your

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Speaker 2: parents are South Korean, right came to this country, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of the immigrant American dream story, and now you're

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Speaker 2: trying to save the country.

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Speaker 1: What's the first thing? I mean?

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Speaker 2: Right now, as you and I are talking, it's kind

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Speaker 2: of funny, right because I was looking forward to chatting

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Speaker 2: with you because we don't have to just dive into

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Speaker 2: the Trump trial. I feel like everything as you and

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Speaker 2: I talk, we're still waiting for a verdict in the

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Speaker 2: Trump trial. The jury has been excused. It is Thursday

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Speaker 2: of the deliberation first deliberations week. I think that everything

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Speaker 2: that can be said about the Trump Trial by the

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Speaker 2: people who care about it has been said, and so

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Speaker 2: I didn't really want to get into that as much

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Speaker 2: as what ails us as a country right now, Like

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Speaker 2: what is Matt Kim want to fix? How are you

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Speaker 2: going to fix America?

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest issue that people have right now

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Speaker 3: with the current state of the country is this trust

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Speaker 3: and establishment, this trust and government, this trust and institutions.

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Speaker 3: I think this is where people really fail the most,

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Speaker 3: because we all have different issues that we care about most,

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Speaker 3: but the reality is that we feel duped and we

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Speaker 3: feel lied to by the institutions that we've trusted over time,

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Speaker 3: not only universities, but government and healthcare, our neighbors, our communities,

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Speaker 3: our city governments. People are just really fed up. People

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Speaker 3: feel like they've been lied to constantly. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing for most people.

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Speaker 2: How much of it is institutional capture by certain worldview.

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Speaker 2: I think it's even more than just an ideology. It's

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Speaker 2: the way they view everything. It's the way they view

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Speaker 2: more than a political ideology, right, it's the way they

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Speaker 2: view existence. But also, how do you factor into these

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Speaker 2: We're frustrated, right, We're frustrated about what's going on in

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Speaker 2: the country, but we keep putting power in the hands

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Speaker 2: of people who we then say are dishonest, they're morons,

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Speaker 2: or you know, is it a reflection like the people

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Speaker 2: it a reflection of bad decisions that we're making as

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Speaker 2: a society by putting them in place, you know what

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Speaker 3: I definitely think so. I've had a lot of conversations

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Speaker 3: I would love to but kind of got a lot

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Speaker 3: people don't really want to do that. And I think

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Speaker 1: And what do you think?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about those who would say it's

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Speaker 2: because we live in a society of so much abundance, wealth,

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Speaker 2: if you were to compare what our lives are like

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Speaker 2: hedonic adaptation is when whatever good that happens to you,

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Speaker 2: else good because you know, are we in a situation

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Speaker 2: because the big things are all covered?

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Speaker 1: Like how do you view that?

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Speaker 3: I think it's social media. I think it's social media.

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Speaker 3: say twenty thirty forty years ago, we didn't know that

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Speaker 3: you need to consume this technology. Ignorance is bliss. And

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Speaker 3: you didn't realize how people outside of your small neighborhood

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Speaker 3: be them. Therefore, you didn't really ever chase after it

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you definitely see this. I mean you

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Speaker 2: mentioned the social media in the way that first of all,

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Speaker 2: when people take a step back, they see that social

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Speaker 2: media and I'll admit this for me too, right, social

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Speaker 2: media is not a reflection of what your life is

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Speaker 2: really like. No one is really putting No one's putting

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Speaker 2: on photos when you know, for the most part, where

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Speaker 2: or where they're depressed, or where they're having a bad day,

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Speaker 2: or you know, in general, people are trying to present

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Speaker 2: entering this whole new world, you know. I think The

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Speaker 2: was still this very powerful but new phenomenon. I do

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Speaker 2: Like there's weird machines that are running our lives, but

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Speaker 2: everybody is an online brand now, right. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: If you're dating, if you're out there you're a married

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Speaker 2: guy who said you've got a baby, right, But you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're dating out there, I used to be single.

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Speaker 2: I'm now married, Matt and uh so you know, yay,

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Speaker 1: Joined the club.

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Speaker 2: I'm very very happy of joining the married club. But

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And what you realize there's a lot of stuff about you.

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Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying, Like, on the one hand,

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Speaker 2: we're drawn into it. There's the there's the superficial, Oh

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Speaker 2: I just want clicks and likes, and then there's also

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Speaker 2: the if you're not on the internet, are you able

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Speaker 3: I mean, first off, the Matrix wasn't a movie, it

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Speaker 3: was a documentary. True, say that all the time. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: we live in a clicks in views economy. People, that

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Speaker 3: is your social credibility, that is what people look at.

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Speaker 3: I remember I was around some politicians, and every once

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Speaker 3: And they're like, oh yeah, nice, meet you, and they

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Speaker 3: Matt Kim, we love Matt Kim. That's so great to

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Speaker 3: see you like, oh, they're so disingenuous. But the reality

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Speaker 3: because if they can talk to one person and you

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Speaker 2: What do you think is the if you're doing it

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Speaker 3: I think, for what you mentioned, it almost feels like

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Speaker 3: we're all plugged directly into the matrix. Maybe not physically,

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Speaker 3: certain narrative where they're removing our ability to think for ourselves,

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Speaker 3: to question narratives and just comply. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: really what I'm trying to do, is to pick different topics,

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Speaker 3: And sometimes all it takes is one moment to realize, Huh,

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Speaker 3: the fourth time easier, and then you realize everything around you.

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Speaker 3: And I think if people had the ability to think

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Speaker 3: I think we'd be a better society because we'd be

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Speaker 2: I think that you mentioned earlier on. We just got

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Speaker 2: when people now say that they are skeptical of a

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Speaker 3: it counts as a thousand people shared that video, regardless

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Speaker 3: if you have one follower or a million followers. The

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Speaker 3: algorithm will say, okay, a thousand people shared it.

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Speaker 3: If a thousand people that share that video, but each

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Speaker 3: thousand people have less than I think the numbers one

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Speaker 3: thousand followers, it counts as zero. Certain people are worth

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Speaker 3: And I think that's weird. I don't like that at all.

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Speaker 3: I think people should be considered equal and if they

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Speaker 3: have more visibility, that's great. But you shouldn't be penalizing

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Speaker 3: are you going to tell me that a thousand people

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Speaker 3: shared a post but they don't count because they're not

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Speaker 3: popular enough. I don't like that idea.

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Speaker 2: What's the most important thing we could do right now

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Speaker 2: to fix the country.

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Speaker 3: I think continue to have conversations. I think people should

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Speaker 3: continue to speak out. I think free speech is the

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Speaker 3: most important thing that we have in this country. It's

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Speaker 3: what separates this country from every other country in the world,

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Speaker 3: and to see it at risk is a huge concern.

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Speaker 3: I think if more and more people spoke out about

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Speaker 3: the injustices of COVID, maybe we wouldn't have gotten into

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Speaker 3: the situation that we had. And people say, well, I

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Speaker 3: did speak up, but not enough. They can't cancel everybody.

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Speaker 3: What would happen if everyone spoke out about it the

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Speaker 3: same exact time. Noah's gonna consume their technology, Noah's gonna

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Speaker 3: read their ads, Noah's go watch their ads, Noah's gonna

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Speaker 3: buy their product. Their product? Would cease to exist. They

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Speaker 3: can't cancel everyone. I think they let I think they

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Speaker 3: make examples of certain people and they scare everyone else

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Speaker 3: from talking. And I think it's our job as a

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Speaker 3: populace to speak out and say no, like enough is enough.

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Speaker 2: Matt Kim, it has been a pleasure. Man, Let's let's

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Speaker 2: do this again. I would I would love to come

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Speaker 2: on the Matt Kim Show sometime toos you. Let me know,

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Speaker 2: let's do it when that works for you. I want,

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Speaker 2: I want to meet all of Mat Kim's people, so

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Speaker 2: to speak, in the ecosystem. You know, I'll you'll be

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Speaker 2: You'll be more fheust, I'll be neo or you can

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Speaker 2: be Neo'll be morpheles. We'll keep the matrix stuff going.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, man, it was great to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: And uh, let's let's keep in touch and let's try

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Speaker 2: to save save the internet, saved the country sounds good

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, I'll see us sain. Thank you everybody

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Speaker 3: much