WEBVTT - Using Credit Cards like a Pro #014

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're talking about using credit cards like a pro. Alright, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>First thing on everybody's minds after last week this awesome

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<v Speaker 1>giveaway we have to update people on. Yeah, thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that got on our Instagram and uh figured out

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<v Speaker 1>how to how to register and be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>our giveaway. And thanks to Republic Wireless as well for

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<v Speaker 1>giving us that sweet giveaway. Man, they totally hooked us

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<v Speaker 1>up with that and we couldn't have done without him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sweet deal. Dollars towards a new phone and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of phones are free because with that and three months

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<v Speaker 1>of free service. And as you guys know from from

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the last episode two, we're fans of Republic

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<v Speaker 1>Wireless no matter what their plan. Pricing is just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>among the cheapest out there, and uh they've all they've

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<v Speaker 1>great company to consider doing business with. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>wanna announce too, Yeah, Matt, So the winner is drumroll please,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Sebezma. Brian, thanks for following us on Instagram. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for entering our giveaway. It was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get the republic wireless stuff over too soon. And

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<v Speaker 1>that six pack of awesome beer. Yeah, that was a

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<v Speaker 1>sweet giveaway. Man. I'm hoping we can do more of these,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the future. Just giving away free stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>giving away things that aren't ours to give is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. You know, that's pretty awesome. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>at some point we'll give away an autograph pair of

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<v Speaker 1>your George. Oh yeah, I think those would would go

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of money. You know how the show

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<v Speaker 1>Arrested Development, Like, you'll watch something in season one and

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<v Speaker 1>then in season three it comes back the George thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm telling you, it's gonna make it at

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<v Speaker 1>least like every third episode it's gonna make an appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you're gonna talk about what's his name? Being

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<v Speaker 1>a never nude. So it's crazy, is I never even

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<v Speaker 1>watched uh Arrested Development. I watched like the first season

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<v Speaker 1>then just got sick of it because your sense of

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<v Speaker 1>humor is lacking. I don't maybe so, man, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think you and I we have a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>since the humor and we just we didn't dig it, man, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick before we get into the topic of credit cards.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about last year and what that

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<v Speaker 1>meant in the craft beer world, because you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>like beer. Uh found this stat interesting that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really fantastic year for craft beer in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways. We had almost a thousand breweries new breweries

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<v Speaker 1>open up in the United States total. Uh, But on

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<v Speaker 1>the flip side, we had a hundred and sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>breweries closed down. UM, So I kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know your thoughts on this. It seems like craft beer

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it's like flying high, but then there's this

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<v Speaker 1>contracting in part of the industry too. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about all those breweries? Man, I think those

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<v Speaker 1>breweries that well, I mean, it's competition, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it, Like, yes, there's still a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of people out there that are wanting like a good

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<v Speaker 1>local craft beer nearer they're living. But there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of breweries that have been opened for a while that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, may not be that good. It's when you've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had these middle of the road breweries that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't really crashing it locally, and they're also not big

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<v Speaker 1>enough to really you know, work the system and make

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<v Speaker 1>it happen from a distribution standpoint, and I think those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are the ones who are dropping out, because there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of these smaller guys that are starting

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<v Speaker 1>out and putting out new, amazing stuff, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>given those guys a run for their money. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting to see what happens over the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years, because, um, there's just not room to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to grow at I think it's such a torrid

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<v Speaker 1>pace that we've been at, and I think some of

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<v Speaker 1>those bigger breweries that some of the national and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the regional breweries just got used to growing at

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<v Speaker 1>growth rates and that's just not sustainable, especially with all

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<v Speaker 1>the competition and how craft beer is getting more localized.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we've got so many more small, small

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<v Speaker 1>craft breweries that we can bike to or a quick drive,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're just buying a lot more locally. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you picked up a beer that we're gonna have on

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<v Speaker 1>the show hopefully next week that is just from a

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<v Speaker 1>brew pub down the street that started canning, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's just that's just kind of the trend right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I think we're gonna see more of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we're gonna see probably some more open

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<v Speaker 1>that are all that are neighborhood focused, that are incredibly small, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>but that make their presence known in the community. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna see some of the bigger players, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're regional or national, either just losing steam and losing

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<v Speaker 1>market share or also maybe getting to the point over

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<v Speaker 1>over a few years time where they had shuttered their

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<v Speaker 1>doors completely. Yeah. I was talking to a buddy over

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<v Speaker 1>at Monday night Monday Night brewing, and that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things he was excited about seeing in the future

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<v Speaker 1>is all of these I mean there's small towns across

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<v Speaker 1>the country, you know, like across every state, there's these

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<v Speaker 1>all these smaller towns. And even in these smaller towns,

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<v Speaker 1>there's breweries that are kind of popping up and they

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<v Speaker 1>are becoming sort of like the local brewery that's making

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<v Speaker 1>awesome beer. It's like the equivalent of like a farmer's market,

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<v Speaker 1>except for its beer, you know, instead of like go

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<v Speaker 1>into your local farmers market and getting fresh samantas and

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<v Speaker 1>veggies in the summer or eggs, that's where you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>your beer. Now. It's it's sort of following that model.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exciting. Yeah. And I think the key to

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, and I think it makes complete sense,

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<v Speaker 1>is good beer. And I think it doesn't matter whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're a big national brewer or you are my next

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<v Speaker 1>far group pub. There are a couple of local breweries

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<v Speaker 1>that you and I rarely visit just because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy their beer. We don't think they're making great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We try to support them and go every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while, but it's just, you know, it's not our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite beers. Then there are other places really close to

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<v Speaker 1>us that have amazing beers. For instance, the beer we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to drink is one of our favorite beers, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's this big national brewery. And I think the key

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to if you're making great beers and you're

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<v Speaker 1>making what the public wants, it doesn't matter if you're

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<v Speaker 1>distributed in all fifty states or you literally have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the place where it's made to pick it up.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as you're making good beer, it's gonna sell.

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<v Speaker 1>People are gonna find you. Yeah. And the word of

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<v Speaker 1>mouth in the craft beer scene is is like worth

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<v Speaker 1>its weight in gold. And so speaking of beer, we

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<v Speaker 1>told you last week Bull of our brewing company UM

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<v Speaker 1>out of Kansas City was kind enough to send us

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<v Speaker 1>to awesome bottles of beer, and we had the Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Crew last week, which we were amazing, super fond of

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<v Speaker 1>good and uh, this week we're cracking Love Child number eight.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a sour beer that they make annually

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<v Speaker 1>or or twice a year. Yeah, I think they do

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<v Speaker 1>it once a year and it's a sour So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a I mean literally in the complete opposite direction, the

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<v Speaker 1>other end of the spectrum when it comes to beer light, sour, tart, acidic,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all the different sort of qualities that you

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<v Speaker 1>typically don't find. And a stout blended with a quad

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<v Speaker 1>which is what what we had by them last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've I started drinking this particular beer back

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<v Speaker 1>when it was Love Shot number five. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Love Shot number five was the first one I've had,

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<v Speaker 1>and then six, and I don't know if I had seven.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, this I love to read the labels and

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<v Speaker 1>and see what kind of quirkiness comes out there. This

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<v Speaker 1>one's awesome because what's to say specifically, because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>sour beer and it's got multiple different strains in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let go Bacsilus and Bretton to miacies. It says these

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<v Speaker 1>may change over time because these beers do develop in

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<v Speaker 1>the bottle, So this is uh, these may change over time.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't we all it's so true Bolivart. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I'm not the same man that I was yesterday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it brings a level of humanity to their beers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, hey, just be patient, all right. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>I love that sound, man, I know, there's not not

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<v Speaker 1>much better than that. This one is pouring and beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>golden color. I'm just gonna put it all on my glass.

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<v Speaker 1>What color is that? It's just almost like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>olden amber, you know. It's like a murky, murky golden color.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a great nose to it. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm super excited about this. I remember the love

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<v Speaker 1>Shots always being pretty aggressive with their acidity levels, which

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the things I love. Yep, just had

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<v Speaker 1>a taste still is that's great. It's really at like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a clean version of a goose, almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a much cleaner It's still got a little funk to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but a little bit of funk, little bit of sweetness

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<v Speaker 1>just the right amount of sweetness for me. Man. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>I really like delicious, some a nice funk factor to

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<v Speaker 1>the beer. And on the back too. I mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>label they describe that it's got some funk, a fair

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<v Speaker 1>amount of sour, and a little bit of fruit notes.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I kind of like those like scales like

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of help you understand what you're getting into

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<v Speaker 1>when you pop the top. Super tasty alright, Matt, So

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<v Speaker 1>the first rule of using credit cards like a pro,

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<v Speaker 1>pay them off every month. We're gonna touch on some

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<v Speaker 1>things that can help people that don't carry credit card debt,

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<v Speaker 1>how to use their credit cards better, how to make

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<v Speaker 1>wise decisions when it comes to you know, what credit

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<v Speaker 1>cards they get and how to utilize them. But the

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<v Speaker 1>first rule, the very first thing you have to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are listening to this and you don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>off your credit card balance every month, that is your

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<v Speaker 1>first and really most glaring goal that you need to accomplish.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to sure that your credit card is getting

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<v Speaker 1>paid off and that you're not accruing crazy amounts of interest. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's step one. Like, that's the very first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>need to need to do, Like before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>the little nuance and the tips or whatever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're carrying a balance and you're you're paying interest,

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<v Speaker 1>you are not using a credit card like a pro,

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to like go back and do that first. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's essentially one on one maybe even just like a

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<v Speaker 1>remedial class you need to take. Uh. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, there are a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>have struggled with taking out too much credit card debt

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<v Speaker 1>and and they're you know, working on paying it back

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<v Speaker 1>and it can be tough. So I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you if you are one of those people struggling

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<v Speaker 1>under a weight of credit card debt, like you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it, and there are a lot of tools out

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<v Speaker 1>there to help you. But also know that it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be almost a singular focus for you to pay

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<v Speaker 1>that off before you really start taking many of these

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<v Speaker 1>other financial lessons, financial ideas and under consideration. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying you know, nineteen interest every month on this

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<v Speaker 1>credit card and you're only paying the minimum them or

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying more than the minimum, but you find it

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<v Speaker 1>hard to really make much of a dent in that balance,

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<v Speaker 1>you just need to be putting all of your efforts

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<v Speaker 1>into that one area. I mean, unless you've got like

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of crazy title loan or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's even worse. I mean, this is probably the worst

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<v Speaker 1>debt in your life percentage wise, and so all of

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<v Speaker 1>your focus needs to be going at that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just encourage you that if you do have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of credit card debt, go at it. You can do it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of success stories out there of

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<v Speaker 1>people not even making tons of money, but that are

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<v Speaker 1>able to pay it on their debt in a quick

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time just by focusing on it intently. Yeah, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good word of advice. And and really we

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<v Speaker 1>want to encourage folks just to think about sort of

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<v Speaker 1>your behaviors and your patterns, like you, like, we want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know yourself. And if you know that by

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<v Speaker 1>applying for another credit card, that's gonna maybe encourage you

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<v Speaker 1>to go into more debt or maybe even spend more

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<v Speaker 1>than you typically would. We'll kind of get into that

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<v Speaker 1>later on. But this is this may not be the

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<v Speaker 1>episode for you. This may not be sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of week or the maybe you know, the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of financial life hack that would be great for you

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and so it's just important to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>know yourself, know what your tendencies are, and take that

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<v Speaker 1>into account before you hop onto nerd wallet and start

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<v Speaker 1>looking up all the best credit cards right that offer

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<v Speaker 1>sweet bonuses. And so one thing you should consider if

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<v Speaker 1>you have credit card debt, whether it's you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>large balance or a small balance, and you have good credit,

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason we would encourage you to open up

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<v Speaker 1>another credit card is if you could do this one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>open up a credit card that has a promotional zero

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<v Speaker 1>percent interest rate. So if you've got a credit score

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<v Speaker 1>and go back and listen to our episode on credit

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<v Speaker 1>scores and now to improve that. But if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a good credit score that's typically seven seven forty year above,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in that range, you're likely getting offers in

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<v Speaker 1>the mail with zero percent promotional interest rates of twelve, fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen months. And if you've got a credit card balance,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be wise to open up a zero percent

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<v Speaker 1>credit card, transfer the balance over and pay that likely

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<v Speaker 1>three percent fee to do that, and then essentially give

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<v Speaker 1>yourself fifteen eighteen months to tablet as quickly as possible

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<v Speaker 1>where you're not paying any interest on the debt itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you have a good credit it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>kind of going down that path. And that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>real reason that we would consider telling you to open

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<v Speaker 1>up another credit card. But again, if it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>cause you to to snowball into more and more debt,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not worth it. You just need to cut it

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<v Speaker 1>off all together, toss them in the freezer, and just

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<v Speaker 1>start paying it down with that laser like focus. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's definitely more of a route for someone that's like

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<v Speaker 1>turning over new leaf, right if it's if they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm We're done with this, We're done

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<v Speaker 1>carrying a balance. We're not gonna have credit card payments anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna take someone that is just all about knocking

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Yes, So now the rest of this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is dedicated to the people that use credit cards and

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<v Speaker 1>pay them off every month. If you're one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people doing that, all the rest of these tips are

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah, man, So for those folks, a credit

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<v Speaker 1>card is essentially a tool. You know, it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>a great sort of product that we can sort of

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<v Speaker 1>hack and and use in a way that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we essentially are able to work the system kind of

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<v Speaker 1>play the game and get some pretty sweet bonuses along

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<v Speaker 1>the way. Yeah, and our in our country, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in credit card debt, and that

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<v Speaker 1>actually allows people that use their credit cards wisely to

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<v Speaker 1>get some great perks and great cash back rewards. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's essentially because people that are you know, have the

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<v Speaker 1>credit card debt and are paying high interest rates or

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<v Speaker 1>subsidizing the people that get points, and and they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>subsidizing the rewards that that we get as credit card

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<v Speaker 1>users that use it wisely. And man, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like in this system to In our state, the lottery

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<v Speaker 1>ticket sales benefit middle class and upper class families by

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<v Speaker 1>providing free pre k and free college. And I personally

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<v Speaker 1>benefited from both of those things in this state. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>same here, And uh, I don't like it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the fact that essentially it's a huge, huge transfer

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<v Speaker 1>of wealth from the poorts people. It's a crap system. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who can't afford it. I don't think that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is the way the system is currently constructed,

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<v Speaker 1>and the credit card system is much the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I don't like it. I don't like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the poorest people who can't pay their bills

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<v Speaker 1>are paying exorbitant interest rates. But it does provide an

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<v Speaker 1>ability for us to get returns that we otherwise wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>ye ji also for better or worse. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest benefits of of the credit cards

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<v Speaker 1>are the points, like the points in the cash back

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<v Speaker 1>or the miles depending on you know, all the different

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<v Speaker 1>cards out there have the different reward that they focus on.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the biggest reason why I use the credit

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<v Speaker 1>card is is I mean we use it to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for everything. I mean, everything that we can possibly pay

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<v Speaker 1>for with credit card, we we throw it on the

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<v Speaker 1>credit card and we yeah, we get the cash back.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, man, if you want to use a credit

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<v Speaker 1>card like a pro, you're gonna use credit cards that

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<v Speaker 1>benefit you the most. And there's a lot of advertising

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<v Speaker 1>in the credit card industry. You know, commercials all the time, NonStop.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're web surfing, you know, you'll see ads on

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<v Speaker 1>almost every website. You know, get this credit card, this

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<v Speaker 1>one will make it life better. Go travel to Tahiti

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<v Speaker 1>if you get this credit card. And I think unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're really, really really into the credit card game, the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest and best thing for you to do when getting

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<v Speaker 1>a credit card is to maximize cash back because there's

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of loopholes when it comes to booking travel

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<v Speaker 1>composed the blackout dates. Yeah, and maybe you think you

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<v Speaker 1>want to travel, maybe you didn't realize all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that it took to actually redeem those rewards. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think the easiest thing for people to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to get the highest percentage cash back that they can.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my favorite two cards are the City Double

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<v Speaker 1>Cash Card because you get one percent when you make

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<v Speaker 1>the purchase and another one percent when you pay. That's

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<v Speaker 1>two percent back. And the card that I use most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time is the Fidelity Investments Visa Reward Card,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's two percent cash back that I can transfer

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<v Speaker 1>into a retirement account. I can open up an investment

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<v Speaker 1>account with Fidelity with the rewards, and the great thing

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<v Speaker 1>about it is you're getting two percent on your money.

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<v Speaker 1>If you transfer that money to U qualified Fidelity account,

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<v Speaker 1>you could transfer it into a five account for your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all sorts of options with that card, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think the easiest and best thing to do if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know exactly what you're spending is like the

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<v Speaker 1>two percent is just an easy thing to follow. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of rotating rewards cards where every three months

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<v Speaker 1>it's five percent in this category or that category. I

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<v Speaker 1>think for most people were too busy, like we don't,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to track of right. So one of my

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<v Speaker 1>cards has that too, where they're like, would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to enroll and getting you know, an extra three percent

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever on home improvement stores, and it's just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, because I'm logged in, I'll click yes

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't require anything, you know, really extra of me.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, man, I'm totally with you. Like for us,

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<v Speaker 1>we've never used credit card for miles. We like to

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<v Speaker 1>use it more as additional income as opposed to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like this bonus where we sort of get this

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<v Speaker 1>thing and we kind of have this little prize and

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<v Speaker 1>we get to do something with it. And by using

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<v Speaker 1>that additional money to kind of plug back into our

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<v Speaker 1>system where we've already sort of predecided what our priorities are,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll use that to fund travel, or we

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<v Speaker 1>might use that to fund you know, at line United

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<v Speaker 1>tickets or something else that's fun that we might want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. We keep it super simple. And we're totally

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<v Speaker 1>with you, like we don't worry about the loopholes and

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<v Speaker 1>just everything, all the hoops you need to jump through

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make it work. From a mile standpoint, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you want the set it and forget

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<v Speaker 1>it approach, then that's the easiest one to do. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be thinking about fulfilling all these

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<v Speaker 1>obligations in order to book to travel, the easiest thing

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<v Speaker 1>is to pull out the two percent cash back card

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<v Speaker 1>because likely the one you're using is offering you inferior

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<v Speaker 1>rewards than two and so switch to that card and

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<v Speaker 1>get better rewards. I will say at different times I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten travel reward cards, and I usually when I

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<v Speaker 1>do that, I go for a specific airline. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>I recently got a Southwest credit card when they had

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<v Speaker 1>a special with extra points, so I got sixty instead

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<v Speaker 1>of the normal forty, and you know what, that's enough

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<v Speaker 1>points for me to book a round trip ticket for

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<v Speaker 1>my whole family of four if I wait for a

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<v Speaker 1>sale on Southwest across the country. Right. So that's a

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<v Speaker 1>sweet deal. But just be careful when you're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>credit card that offers you travel rewards points. Know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting into, know that you'll you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you you'll know how to redeem them. Uh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really important when you're considering what cards you're gonna get,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you know you're not gonna go through those steps,

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<v Speaker 1>just go with simple two percent cash back cards. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, man, the points the cash back and then

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<v Speaker 1>for me, Man, recently the past few years, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>really into the sign up bonuses. That's another sort of

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<v Speaker 1>pro that I feel like we've been able to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, just about every three months or so, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>apply for a new card that's offering anywhere between three

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of eight hundred dollars for a sign up bonus

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<v Speaker 1>if you spend a certain amount of money within you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like typically three months or something something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're considering what credit card you're gonna get,

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<v Speaker 1>consider what the rewards are and whether you're actually gonna

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<v Speaker 1>know how to use them, and if you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to take the time to figure out how to redeem

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<v Speaker 1>the miles, don't be suede a commercial and sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for a credit card just because oh I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Tahiti. Instead, get a cash back credit card

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<v Speaker 1>and consider the sign up bonus too. So some of

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<v Speaker 1>these credit cards are going to offer you know, richer

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<v Speaker 1>sign up bonuses and it might be worth it to

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<v Speaker 1>make three bucks off the bat if you're gonna fulfill

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<v Speaker 1>those obligations of spending within the first ninety days. That

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<v Speaker 1>can be a really great perk of getting a new

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<v Speaker 1>credit card too. Yeah, and a good place to look

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<v Speaker 1>those up would be nerd wallet dot com. They basically

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<v Speaker 1>have all the credit cards, they've reviewed them all. They

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have all the information laid outside by side,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can it's really easy to kind of compare

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<v Speaker 1>look at the different costs associated with it and the

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<v Speaker 1>different percentage of cash back that you get, plus any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of sign up bonuses on there as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great tool. Yeah, another way to use a

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<v Speaker 1>credit card like a pro It's easier to track than cash.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have been kind of working on a

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<v Speaker 1>cash system that has its pros as well, usually tend

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<v Speaker 1>to spend less. But I love how easy it is

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<v Speaker 1>to track my credit card spending in Mint. I just

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<v Speaker 1>tie it straight in there. It's easy to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>run through how I've spent my money over the past month.

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<v Speaker 1>Or yesterday even just based on how I use my

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<v Speaker 1>credit cards, and I can see kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how our families doing overall pretty quickly, and where our

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<v Speaker 1>money goes. It's just so much easier to track, yes man.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you listen back to our episode on budgets,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was episode number two. That's basically the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest way to get started on creating a budget is

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<v Speaker 1>looking at your actual expenses, and the easiest way to

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<v Speaker 1>do that is looking at your credit card statement from

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<v Speaker 1>the from the month before. So a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>people are get overwhelmed, you know, they don't know even

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<v Speaker 1>know where to start when it comes to making a budget,

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<v Speaker 1>And the best place to start is by looking at

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<v Speaker 1>what you typically spend. And it's easy to do that

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<v Speaker 1>by again, just looking at your credit card statement. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Another pro of using a credit card is that fraudulent

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<v Speaker 1>charges and unauthorized transactions cannot be held against you like

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<v Speaker 1>they can with a debit card. Yeah, have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>just disputed a fraudulent charge in your card before? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I've disputed a fraudulent charge, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>definitely filed a charge back against a merchant for not

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<v Speaker 1>delivering goods like they should have. And so that's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a perk of using a credit card. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>say debit cards, many of them provide some of these

0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.480
<v Speaker 1>same features of the credit card on their own, but

0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>they're not legally held to the same standard as credit cards.

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And so using a credit card for your purchases does

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:17.919
<v Speaker 1>put you in a better situation when it comes to

0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.520
<v Speaker 1>your rights, and typically too with a credit card. I mean,

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.359
<v Speaker 1>if there's an unauthorized transaction, that's not money out of

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.199
<v Speaker 1>your pocket yet, like it's charged on the card and

0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you can dispute it. But that's one of the disadvantages

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<v Speaker 1>of say, like a debit card, right, Like folks say

0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 1>that like, oh, you have the same kind of protection.

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:34.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a visa card. It still got that protection, what

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>except with a debit card, like that money is already

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 1>out of your wallet, like and you've gotta get it back, yeah,

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and you've got to get it back, versus saying that like,

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.520
<v Speaker 1>oh no, this isn't something I charged on, you know,

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.280
<v Speaker 1>with your credit card. And in that case, by the

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 1>time the statement actually rolls around and by the time

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to actually pay, it'll it's gonna roll off

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>they'll you know, they'll address it. Same thing with you know,

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.640
<v Speaker 1>booking a rental car or a hotel or something like that.

0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.120
<v Speaker 1>They'll put a hold on your account usually, and when

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you have a credit card you don't to worry about that.

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:02.560
<v Speaker 1>But if you have a debit card and you overdraw

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.680
<v Speaker 1>your account because they put a hold on it, you're

0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.879
<v Speaker 1>liable for over draft fees. Yeah. Man, it's been a

0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.639
<v Speaker 1>long time actually since I've had an actual, you know,

0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.399
<v Speaker 1>fake fraudulent charge whatever my credit card. It would mean

0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.320
<v Speaker 1>it was years ago. The credit card company caught it

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.119
<v Speaker 1>before I did, and they gave me a call and

0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>we're just like, hey, are you making plane ticket purchases

0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:22.080
<v Speaker 1>in like Israel? And I was like, nope, it's not me. Yeah,

0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 1>And in that case, it was super easy, I was.

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I just said, these are not my charges, and they

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 1>just shut down the account. They sent me a new card,

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's super easy. So one tip if

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 1>you want to use your credit card, you're worried about

0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 1>getting into debt and you want the parks of using

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>a credit card, but you kind of want that ease

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of mind of paying with a debit card and knowing

0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that that's taken care of. There's a really cool new

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>app called debt Eze, and essentially Debatize uses your credit

0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:50.359
<v Speaker 1>card but treats it like a debit card. How does

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>it work, man, because that sounds awesome. So you make

0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 1>purchases on your credit card like you normally would, they

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>deduct the amount from your checking account every day, and

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the month, they pay your credit

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.479
<v Speaker 1>card bill. So yeah, so it's really cool, Like it

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.360
<v Speaker 1>feels like it's this day by day thing and you're

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>not racking up this like huge four thousand dollar bill

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>or two thousand dollar bill at the end of the month.

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>You're paying it off every day, so you're actually seeing

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the balance in your account shrink. But you're using it

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.399
<v Speaker 1>a credit card, and you have interesting those perks of

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a credit card without accruing a huge debt that you

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>might or might not be able to pay at the

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 1>end of the month. If you want to check that out,

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.680
<v Speaker 1>go to debitize dot com and you can see the details.

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And then the one of the last advantages of using

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>our credit card is like the builts in sort of

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>rental car insurance, like the purchase protection or like the

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>extended warranties and anything like that. I personally have never

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 1>used that. It's been there in case something like that

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>word to happen. But but yeah, man, I've never actually

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>had to sort of like tap into that feature of

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 1>of of a credit card, so I don't have personal

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>experience as far as that goes. I have actually used

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the rental car insurance really in my credit card one time.

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I got a minor accident in South Africa and uh

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and so it came in really helpful save me a

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. Was it easy? Yeah, it was super

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>easy to use too. Yeah. So I would say, look

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>at those services that your credit card offers, like trip cancelation, insurance,

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>rental card coverage, the extended warranty. So specifically, let's say

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you're buying a television, you want to make sure you

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 1>use the credit card in your wallet that offers a

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 1>doubling of the warranty offered by the manufacturing fu facturer's warranty. Yeah,

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>so it's really some of those perks are really neat.

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>You just have to remember that they're there and you

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 1>have to meet all the requirements. So, for instance, when

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you're booking a rental car, you have to make your

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>initial booking reservation with that credit card and then actually

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>pay with that credit card as well. If you don't

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>do both, you're not going to be covered. So make

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>sure you read the fine print. But there are some

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>really cool perks that credit cards offer. Besides just the

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>rewards that they tout, there are awesome protections for you

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>on top of that. You know, one of my credit

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>cards offers like con concierge service, so I could get

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>tickets to I know, use it because it sounds fancy.

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>It sounds too fancy for me, please, Yeah, But like

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>if I really wanted tickets to, like, I don't know,

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift Last a Minute tomorrow night, I don't know,

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I could call them. They don't know. They might have

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the hook up. I have no idea. So that's kind

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>of cool. Make sure, you know, look in those fine

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 1>prints and and see kind of what your credit card offers,

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and make sure you're making the right purchases with each

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.719
<v Speaker 1>credit card, because there's some cool stuff. I know. Some

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>fancy travel credit cards offer you free admission to airport lounges,

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and that can be really cool perk if you travel

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, that would be something good to look

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:36.919
<v Speaker 1>at I guess if you know you're about to make

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a bigger purchase, uh, somewhere where it would be you know,

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>say extra handy, did like Joel said, kind of have

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>that extended warranty or you know, like if you know

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be traveling, it definitely might be worth looking

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>at that card. Obviously, make sure you don't have a

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>foreign transaction fee um associated with that card when you're

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>when you're traveling. But yeah, man, I couldn't imagine being

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 1>in another country and then get it getting an erect

0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>like having that extra insurance essentially see valuable. Yeah. And

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I want to say too that at some point I

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>hope to get into like the travel hacking thing. And

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a lot of people that are super

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>into travel hacking and using credit cards, essentially opening a

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>credit card, taking the perks and the sign up bonuses,

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and booking a whole trip for their family for fifty

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>dollars or less, and and that's really cool and I

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 1>love that idea. For me, I'm just not brushed up

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.120
<v Speaker 1>enough on that and not interested in brushing up enough yet.

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>But hopefully, you know, at some point when I have

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>more free time, I look look forward to using credit

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>cards for stuff like that. Yeah, And I love that idea,

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just not there yet. Yeah. Yeah, same here, man.

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:35.919
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to the day when I have to

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>do all the mile researching because that means I'll be

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>traveling a lot more and have a lot more time.

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Don't quite have that at the moment. Yeah, with you've

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>got three young kids. I've got two young kids. Were

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>just traveling once a year, and you know, if we're

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 1>lucky right now, not doing much jet setting with our

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>with our kids in tow. Yeah. So let's talk about

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>some of the cons of using a credit card real quick, Matt. Yeah,

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>those were all the pros that we just covered, you know,

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>every all the advantages and benefits of using a credit card.

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>And there's definitely some some cons, some things that we

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 1>need to be wary of, make sure we're not getting

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>hammered or paying more than we need to be paying. Yeah. Man.

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 1>One of the first I put this in parentheses cons

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 1>is annual fee credit cards. And so there are a

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of credit cards that charge you an annual fee.

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>And I will say for most people it is a

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>con because they're not getting their money's worth. They might

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>be paying annual fee and they're not making their money

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 1>back because they're not using their rewards properly. Yeah. A

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of times those those annual fees are associated with

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>cards that have slightly higher cash back, and you think,

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>oh man, that'll totally be worth it. But in a

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of those cases, sometimes those will be business cards

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>or just sort of these fancy personal cards, and you

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>need to be spending a lot of money on that card.

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>The fact is you don't need to be encouraged to

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 1>spend more money just to make sure you're getting your

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 1>money is worth out of your annual fee card. There's

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 1>something kind of messed up and twisted about that thinking

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that like, oh man, I gotta make sure it's worth

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>it for me to keep this card with an annual fee.

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Therefore I need to spend extra money so I get

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the extra rewards and slippery slope, Yeah that you just

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. Yeah. So I mentioned my Southwest card

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>that I got that will, when we book on a sale,

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>give us probably four round trip tickets pretty easily across

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>the country for our family, which is awesome. That's like

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>the reason I got it, because I had it in

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>mind I'm going to book tickets to go see my

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>family in the Northwest, and it carries an annual fee,

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's worth it because I know what I got

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>from signing up, and after I book those tickets, I

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 1>might cancel it. Yeah. Oh, man, absolutely, that's kind of

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>my m O. Like it's the same thing. Like if

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a card that I'm going to sign up for

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>that has a really sweet sign up bonus, like one

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>specifically that I recently redeemed and got eight fifty bucks

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>cash cash back. Man, that's huge. Granted that card had

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a nine dollar annual fee, and so I just gotta

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>take that into accountans in reality is not eight fifty

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it's more like seven fifty. But even still, that's the

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>biggest cash back sign u bonus that there is out

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>there right now. And if you can just keep that

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>in mind and take that into account when you're weighing

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the benefits out there, sometimes annual fee isn't a huge

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>deal as long as you're aware of it. Yeah. Another

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.719
<v Speaker 1>con of using credit cards is your tendency to overspend,

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's been well documented throughout the years. Using plastic

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't register with our brain in the same way

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>as handing over physical bills and change. And so if

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not able to control your spending when you're using plastic,

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about earlier, I think you really need

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to consider going to a cash system. I mean, I

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>think credit cards are great for a lot of reasons,

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>but if you know yourself in particular, you know you

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>can't handle it, then moving not even just to a

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>debit card, but moving to cash could be the way

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>for you to pay for most things. Yeah man. And

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>so then another con I guess that I want to

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>touch onto is sort of the trap of paying for

0:29:56.160 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>your purchases from yesterday, like yesterday's purchases tomorrow. And what

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean by that is thinking that, like cool man,

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>there's something I want to get like today, like right now,

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>but I don't quite have the money. Like people know

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that it takes close to a month before that charge

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>shows up on the statement, you know, like once your

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>monthly statement comes in, I'm gonna buy that coach purse,

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, or the Atlanta United Jersey. Yeah that's more

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>like uh, and I want them for for a month

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and a half. It's gonna be awesome. I'll have the

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>money back by then. They're about the same price too. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and then it's another month almost before that statement is

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>even due. And so basically you're making charges today assuming

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that you'll have the money you know, in the future.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>But like for us, are income fluctuates. Someone might be

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>out of work or something like that, you know where

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>where they don't have the or even other expenses that

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>come up. There's just other things that that kind of

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>come up. And so when you put yourself on that

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>cycle of of being anywhere between thirty and sixty days

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of removed from that purchase, I just feel like

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of another slippery slope where you can essentially

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>just end up overspending. Yeah, no doubt. And that's a

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>common reason that people get into a lot of credit

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>cards because they think, I can make this purchase now

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and pay for it. It'll be fine a couple of

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>months from now, and I will have the money. But

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>if you think that way about too many purchases, you're

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>not gonna have the money in two months, and so

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a huge issue. And then it becomes just

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>this sick cycle that repeats itself. And in the same

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>way that you know, putting your money into an investment

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>account or that compounding interest makes such a huge difference

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to your bottom line over time. The same thing happens

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in the opposite direction with credit cards. Can I get

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>stuck in that opposite cycle? Well, let's say you're just

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>paying the minimum payment every month. If you look at

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>your statements, it tells you if you pay the minimum payment,

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it might take you thirty seven years to pay off

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>this debt. And that's like legitimately, it could say thirty

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>seven years forty s I it could be forever if

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you're only paying the minimum payment. Essentially, if you're paying

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the minimum payment allowed by your credit card issue every month,

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you're accruing interest. Your balance is not being cut down significantly,

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to be in debt for such a

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>long period of time. It's not even funny. Yeah, indefinitely. Yeah.

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And so that sort of mentality when it comes to

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>using a credit card actually means you're you're not fit

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>for using a credit card and you need to really

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>consider moving to cash or UH and and doing that

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>taking that focused approach towards your debt, like we talked

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>about earlier on Yeah man, and like the way we

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>use credit cards is we literally pay them off, you know,

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>at the end of every month. Essentially what you're that

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>new app that you're talking about does, which I'm totally

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna look into you because that's like right up my alley. Um,

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean, we track our expenses every month

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and then literally on the you know, after the last

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>day of the month, um, I schedule a payment for

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>all the charges for that month. And that's before you know,

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the statement even rolls in. Because for us, I just

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that we're on top of our expenses, um,

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that we're sort of don't have this backlog of of

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>charges that we owe, and it just helps us to

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>stay on top of things and stay organized. Yeah, and

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a great tactic for people to ensure they're using

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>their credit card wisely is to pay before the statement

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>even comes in. And it's really easy to do that online.

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Essentially choose the date at the end of the month,

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>like you said, or or figure out a system that

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>works for you. But whatever you have to do to

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>minimize your chances of getting into recurring credit card debt,

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to do. And that's a great tactic for

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>ensuring that you never fall down that path. Alright, So

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about how many credit cards should people have, Matt,

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and what should those credit cards consist of. We already

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of talked about how we like cash back cards,

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.479
<v Speaker 1>but how many credit cards do you think the typical

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>person should have? I have like currently open, like five. Yeah,

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>five is a good number. I think it's good. I

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think average person anywhere between three and five.

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's because of the credit utilization rate that we

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about in our how to Approve Your Credit Score

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>podcast episode, which you can check out. But I think

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a few reasons that you want multiple Let's say

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>your credit line gets reduced or credit card gets canceled

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>because you're not using it enough. You want to make

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>sure you have other lines of credit available to you, uh,

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and you you don't want to be essentially s O

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>l when it comes to having a credit card that

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>you can use. The other thing is I think you

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to maximize rewards. So I think

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>for the person that is really really lazy about it,

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and I would I would put myself like just a

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit above that on the scale of using credit cards.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>So most of my usages I go to the two

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>percent card, but I have a couple of others that

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I know that I can use for certain things. So

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I use the Costco card. That's one of my other

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 1>main cards that I use, and I'll tell you why.

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It's because I can get four percent cash back on gas,

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 1>so I always use it when I get gass, three

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 1>percent cash back on restaurants and travel, so I always

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 1>use it when I go out to eat or when

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing travel stuff, and two percent back when I

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>go to Costco. So obviously I always use it at Costco,

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and then for everything else, I use my two percent card.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>That's just kind of my one leg up to on

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>some purchases I make a little bit more than two percent.

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>But I think for most people, you know, if you've

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>got twelve cards and you're trying to figure out which

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>card do I use it the supermarket, which card do

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I use for booking travel stuff? That that gets a

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>little like, at least for it's too much mentally, and

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>so I try to keep it simple with literally three

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>credit cards that I cycle back and forth between. But

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I think anywhere between three and five is probably a

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>good number for you for a bunch of different reasons.

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>And just make sure you can have a simple enough

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>method of knowing when to use them so that you

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>can do it the right way with every purchase consistently. Yeah,

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean the biggest thing there is just to not overcomplicated.

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>It's not like we're making bank Like you're not making

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>a ton of money with these different bonuses in the

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>cash back. This isn't a way to create an income.

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>This is a way, do you know, just have like

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a nice little bonus the end of the month or

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>at the end of every every few months. So for

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the longest time for us, we've had essentially two main

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>cards that we use. We kind of have like our

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>main go to card that we use for like in

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>person purchases, so if you go to the store and

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you know when we're handing the card over in person,

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>but then for all like essentially like utilities and online

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>purchases and things like that, we kind of have this

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>other like a separate card. From my standpoint, like keeping

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>up with finances, it helps me to sort of mentally

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.399
<v Speaker 1>organize what purchases are aware that being said, and I

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>have recently signed up for like a new sort of

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>sign up bonus card though that's when I hit that

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>one card hard across the board. You got two man,

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>you got to meet those requires. Yeah, yeah, because sometimes

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty step. You know, they can be like four

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>to five tho dollars in three months, and it can

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>be like kind of tough because we can try to

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>live pretty frugally and so I have to try to

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>make sure I get a bunch of business expenses on there,

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah, I gotta gotta hit that quota. But

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 1>in those instances, though, I really like having that single

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>card because it's super easy, incredibly simple, laser focused. We're

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>using this one card for everything, and we get the

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>cash back. But then on top of that, like I said,

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get get that sign up bonus anywhere

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 1>between like three and in some cases even even eight

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>hundred or eight hundred fifty bucks. Yeah. And I think

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 1>one other quick point is you'll probably want to get

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>a Visa and a MasterCard, any sort of mix of

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the three major credit card companies Visa, mess Card, AMEX. Yeah,

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>you want to get different logos on on a couple

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>of different cards just because of where credit cards are accepted,

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and just make sure you have one Visa, one master Card,

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 1>one Visa one American Express. You know, whatever suit, your

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.760
<v Speaker 1>your your needs. Just make sure it's not three visas

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 1>just just in case, or three amex Is or three

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Discover cards. Yeah. Yeah, it's like we don't take Discover

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>but that's all I have. Yeah, that's not good and

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.959
<v Speaker 1>real quick, Matt, let's touch on closing a credit card. Yeah,

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>we just admitted that we close credit cards, right. I

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>think that if you are getting one for the sign

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>up bonus only essentially, and you're done with it, You've

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>used the bonus and you're done with it, and you

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want to pay that annual fee, that's a decent

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>reason to close the credit card. I think for the

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>most part, closing credit cards is a bad idea, and

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to close them for no reason. The

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>annual fee really is, in my mind, the only good

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 1>reason to close the credit card. Yeah, man, I completely agree.

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna pay that annual fee. You know, I'm

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>not gonna pay a hundred bucks a year just to

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>have this card if I'm not gonna reap some huge reward.

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So when the time comes, I I really do close it.

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Though you know we cover this in the Credit Score episode.

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>The length of credit history like that only makes that

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>fifteen per cent of your entire score, and so you know,

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you close a card that portion of your credit score

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that might drop a little bit, and you know you'll

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 1>see a change on your credit score, but it'll rebound

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. That's not gonna impact you, like say, over

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 1>utilizing your credit cards. Yeah, just make sure you know

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing when you're playing the game, because you

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure your credit utilization rate is not

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>an impacted greatly and that your age of credit history

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>is an impacted greatly by closing a card. If you're

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>closing one, make sure you have three others right that

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 1>have low balances. Sure, you're gonna want to make sure

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that you know what you're doing when you close the

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>card and that you already have a good score. And yeah,

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's not something you want to do, especially

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're if you're considering taking out a new loan,

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>say for a new home or something like that. A

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of times I've found from personal experience that it's

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>tough to know what exactly is going to happen to

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>your credit score, and so it kind of just takes

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>some messing with it. It sounds kind of funny to say,

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's not really that big of a deal, like

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 1>it's constantly changing. Just make sure you're not trying to, say,

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>apply for a new mortgage for your first home something

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>like that, where if your credit score drops some a

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.439
<v Speaker 1>few points where you would be more negatively impacted. Yeah,

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and just make sure you're not messing with it, like

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Matt said, at a point where you're gonna need it,

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to need it exactly at it's very best. So you

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>know what, Hey, I'm getting a mortgage in two months,

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>or I'm applying, but you know what I'm gonna I'm

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna do this credit card hack real quick and sign

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:23.879
<v Speaker 1>up for this awesome bonus and then cancel it next week. Yeah,

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to do five credit card hacks, sign up

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>for all of them and drop them all. That's that's

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>something you don't want to do, right, Yeah, And it's

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>totally fine if you're completely settled in your house you

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>don't need access to any credit anytime soon. Your credit

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>score doesn't really mean much to you. But if you're

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>even close to thinking about getting a loan for anything,

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to take part in this. So just

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you're wise when it comes to closing

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>your credit card because your credit score matters for a

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of reasons and you don't want to negatively impact it,

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>even in the short term unless you really know what

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you're doing. Cool man, Let's uh, let's go ahead and

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>get to some Facebook questions now, Like right before we

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>sat down to record, I'll it's passed up a post

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 1>up in our group and uh, a bunch of folks

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>have commented, which is totally awesome. So let's let's get

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to some of these questions. See what folks are saying.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, Brian mentioned not a question but a statement,

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's an awesome one. He says, we put all

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of our expenses on a credit card that we can

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and pay the bill monthly. We gotta be disciplined. We

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>have a U. S A A limitless cash back card,

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and we earned two and a half percent back on

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>all purchases. And Brian, I'll be honest, I hadn't heard

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 1>of this card. Sweet. I looked it up. It's pretty neat.

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>It is better than even the two percent cards we

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>were talking about. So if you are a U. S

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 1>A A member and direct deposit your paychecks into their bank,

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you can get this USA A limitless cash back card

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and earned two and a a half percent back on everything.

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty sweet man. And then Zach wrote in, Matt,

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and to talk about something we just talked about. He said,

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>when should you cancel the credit cards? Should it be

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>based on time, minimal use or when a better deal

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>comes along? I mean, yeah, we essentially just kind of

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>talked about that. But for a quick recap, if you

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have an annual fee, keep it open. It will

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 1>help you maintain a low credit utilization rate, which is

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<v Speaker 1>great for your credit at score. And it's always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of there if you want to be able to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of maybe a sweet promotion that they're doing. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only reason to cancel is an annual fee

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>where you feel like you're not getting to benefit from

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the card. And even in that you need to be careful,

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.879
<v Speaker 1>right like we talked about all right, Matt. Also, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Ordening said, should I pay off all my credit card

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<v Speaker 1>debt before saving for a down payment on a house

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<v Speaker 1>or should I try to do both? And if my

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<v Speaker 1>rent is lower than my mortgage would be, should I

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<v Speaker 1>stay where I am until I'm at least credit card

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<v Speaker 1>debt free? So those are yeah, two separate questions. The

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<v Speaker 1>first one should if you have credit card debt before

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<v Speaker 1>saving up for a house, And I think to that

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<v Speaker 1>one we we would both say yes. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>typically credit card debt. I mean, if you have anything

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 1>lower than that you're paying to a credit card, you've

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>got a great credit card. But it doesn't even matter

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>if it's if you're paying ten percent to a credit card,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get rid of that. That's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a high interest rate. You're not going to do

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<v Speaker 1>better than that in savings. So yes, exactly, and you're

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely not going to do better than that when it

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 1>comes to seeing equity growing a home. Uh So, first

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>things first, pay off that credit card, and I think

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you'll be shocked and surprised at how quickly you are

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<v Speaker 1>then able to save up for a down payment on

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<v Speaker 1>a house. And I think his second question actually reinforces

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<v Speaker 1>what we just said, because his rent is lower than

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>his mortgage. If your rent is lower than what a

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>mortgage would be where you're buying, you should strongly consider

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>continuing to rent because of the costs that are associated

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>with buying a house and then maintaining a house. If

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>you're happy renting and you're happy where you are, and

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 1>you're in a good situation, and the rent is reasonably low,

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 1>which it sounds like it is where you are. I

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 1>think renting is the best option there, and Matt really

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>soon on the podcast, we definitely need to cover the

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>age old debate of renting versus buying. Yeah, man, there's

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with renting. You know, live that rent life.

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty nice, not have to worry about doing all

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>those household things that. Yeah, we could, we could talk

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 1>a whole episode about that that alone. Yeah, we'll do

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 1>that real soon. So yeah, Josh, I would say, pay

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<v Speaker 1>off your credit card at first, and stay in that

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 1>rental that's reasonably cheap, and eventually, you know, you'll find

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the time to get into that house of your very own.

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>But now it sounds like it's not quite the right time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Joel, let's get back to this beer. I

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>feel like we like all the beers that we have

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>on here. I haven't really had bad words to say

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.279
<v Speaker 1>about almost any of the beers we've had, but I

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>think it's because we carefully select and we picked good beers.

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, thanks to Boulevard for sending this one. This

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>is uh really tasty. I'm a huge fan. I mean

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it really is in that if you've had some of

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the older love Child's, it's right in that vein. It's

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like a freaking sibling of the ones that came before it,

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's it's beautiful of the previous Love Child

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Love Child before that. It's delicious. Man. I really love

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.959
<v Speaker 1>how sour it is. It's it's heart. Yeah, it really

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 1>has a great tartness to it. It's still fruity, though.

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 1>This is nice and well balanced and rounded and that's great. Yeah,

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.919
<v Speaker 1>and enough of that funk that kicks in that it's

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>not just sour. It kind of gives it like a

0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>well roundedness. It's got some interest to it other than

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>just sourness. Yeah. So Love Child number eight you can

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>probably get it in your local bottle shop and maybe

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 1>your maybe your local grocery store. Fancy your grocery store. Yeah,

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna be able to pick this up at

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Aldi No, well, no, definitely not. And actually, uh, you know,

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>one of our listeners wrote us a note the other

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>day said that Aldie actually has a good beer. So Matt,

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna test that out. Do you remember what it was?

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, but I'll look it up. Maybe we'll

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>give it a shot on a future show, because I

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>do kind of like the idea of drinking beers that

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people out there can get, and

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>so we'll try to do that more and more, um

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 1>so that if you hear about the beer that we're

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.760
<v Speaker 1>drinking and you you want to partake that, you can,

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, run out to your local shop and grab it.

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 1>All right, MAT's a quick recap. Using your credit cards

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>like a pro. Yeah, man, The first thing you need

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to make sure you're doing is paying off your card

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>every single month. You do not need to be carrying

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a balance. You do not need to only be making

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the minimum payments. The credit card companies are are working

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.879
<v Speaker 1>you like a pro. When that's the case. If you're

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>not doing that, do not pass go, do not collect

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars. Go back to square one. Pay off

0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>your balance every month, and until you can get there,

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the things don't matter. But assuming you've

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>already done that, there's some sweet advantages and then pros

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to to using credit cards, the first of which is

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>cash back. Man, you can get some sweet little bonuses

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the end of the month or

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>end of every couple of months, and maybe even a

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.760
<v Speaker 1>sweet bonus for signing up. Another pro the credit cards

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>are easier to track than cash spending, and so cash

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 1>my curb your spending, but using a credit card can

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>be really helpful for seeing where your money goes, tracking

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 1>it either on your balance sheet that comes in the

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 1>mail or online every month, or tracking it through an

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>app like Mint. Using a credit card just makes it

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>really easy to see exactly where your money is going. Yeah,

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>especially helpful if you're trying to create a budget for

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>the first time. There are constant credit cards too, and

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>even someone who's using a credit card like they should

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>be used. A con could be an annual fee. And

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>so if you're spending seventy or more dollars a year

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:55.879
<v Speaker 1>on an annual fee, but you're not getting the bang

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>for your buck when it comes to rewards, you might

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>want to consider closing that credit card, I mean, and

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>another downside to using credit cards is the tendency to overspend.

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Instead of feeling you know the bills your cash leave

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 1>your wallet when you use plastics, sometimes you don't feel

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.240
<v Speaker 1>it as much. So if you're not tracking and keeping

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>up with your expenses. Uh, it's really easy to to

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>overspend and even blow through your budget. Yeah, it's tough

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>for to see a clean, crisp greenback fly out of

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.760
<v Speaker 1>your fingers than it is to just slide or insert

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:28.359
<v Speaker 1>your credit card. Really, yeah, man, consider paying off your

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.760
<v Speaker 1>credit card not at the end of every billing statement,

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 1>but literally at the end of every month. We found

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that that's incredibly helpful for us to stay on top

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of our expenses. We don't fall behind that way. And

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>if it's kind of tricky for you to keep up

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 1>with them, check out that app that Joel mentioned. It's debitized,

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>which is d E B I T I Z, which

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>sounds awesome And I literally I'm totally gonna check that

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>out because that that sounds like something right up my

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>alley might be a way to for us to simplify

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>our life. And another tip, how many credit cards should

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 1>you have? Well, probably between three and five. Yeah, that's

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>for your credit utilization rate and just in case one

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of your credit cards gets canceled, you want to make

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>sure you have enough lines of credit available to you.

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 1>And on top of that, you can maximize your rewards

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>by having you know, between three and five you have

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>specific credit cards for specific usages like I mentioned having

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>a two percent cash back card for everyday purchases, and

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>then having other credit cards that give you higher amounts

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that specialize in certain things. But don't overdo it, because

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you want to make sure that your system is easy

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>enough that it's not going to annoy you, and so

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna actually be able to use your credit cards

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 1>properly for maximum benefit. All right, thanks to everyone for listening.

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Our home on the web is how to money dot com.

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Check it out. We'll have some show notes up there

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah, we'll link to things like debtize and

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>some of the credit cards that we think are best.

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<v Speaker 1>And until next time, Joel, best friends Out, Best Friends Out,