WEBVTT - How the United States Built its Colonial Empire, Pt. 2

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<v Speaker 1>Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, James, you know, talking with you goes by it

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<v Speaker 2>really quickly. It's almost like no time has passed since

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<v Speaker 2>we last recorded, but it's actually been a whole week.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy how time flies. Yeah, that's sad. It's the magic

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<v Speaker 2>of pocasts yep. In the last episode, we left off

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<v Speaker 2>by talking about how the US took over the Guano

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<v Speaker 2>Islands and how it established US expansion as a mission

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<v Speaker 2>of resource extraction. The Guano Islands were uninhabited, but this

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<v Speaker 2>episode is all about how the US overseas expansion took

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<v Speaker 2>over people as well as land. So to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the five inhabited US colonies, we need to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the Spanish Empire. Throughout the nineteenth century, Spain's expansive empire

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<v Speaker 2>shrunk considerably. Several of their colonies were either overtaken by

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<v Speaker 2>the US, as in the case of Florida, or became independent,

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<v Speaker 2>as in the case of Mexico, Peru, Bolivia, Chile, and others.

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<v Speaker 2>By the end of the nineteenth century, the Spanish Empire

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<v Speaker 2>was on its last legs, but it did have a

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<v Speaker 2>few remaining colonies Cuba, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, and Guam. Cuba,

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<v Speaker 2>the Philippines and to a lesser extent, Puerto Rico had

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<v Speaker 2>been fighting insurrectionary wars against Spain for years by the

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<v Speaker 2>time that eighteen ninety eight rolled around. In a final

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<v Speaker 2>bid to keep some type of control over them, Spain

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<v Speaker 2>gave Cuba and Puerto Rico autonomy, meaning that they could

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<v Speaker 2>form a local government. Meanwhile, Spain entered into a truce

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<v Speaker 2>with the Philippines with promises of future reforms. However, their

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<v Speaker 2>insurgencies essentially continued. This wouldn't last long because the US

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<v Speaker 2>government invaded the Spanish colonies a few months later as

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Spanish American War. As I've talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the nineteenth century was marked by the

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<v Speaker 2>wish to expat and America's influence beyond its continental borders.

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<v Speaker 2>It had partially done this with the purchase of Alaska,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as the coming annexation of Hawaii, which would

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<v Speaker 2>happen in great part because the US needed a military

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<v Speaker 2>outpost in the Mid Pacific to support operations in the

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<v Speaker 2>Philippines and Guam. However, it still wanted more, and Spain's

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<v Speaker 2>weakness presented the perfect opportunity. So throughout the years before

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen ninety eight, the government had been talking about intervening

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<v Speaker 2>in Cubas struggle for independence. This was done for yellow journalism,

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<v Speaker 2>which we talked about a little bit in the last episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But essentially the newspapers were talking kind of directly to

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<v Speaker 2>the United States government, being like, we need to spread

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<v Speaker 2>liberty to them and freedom, we need to teach them

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<v Speaker 2>how it goes. And this was of course mixed with

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<v Speaker 2>manifest destiny and the Monroe Doctrine where they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote protect American hedgemony in the new World.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to remember who said this uplift civilized and

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<v Speaker 3>christianized our little brown brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it McKinley.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like it would be. But when I searched

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<v Speaker 3>that specific thing in quotation marks, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, So William Howard Taft, the first American Governor

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<v Speaker 2>General of the Philippines and later US President, used the

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<v Speaker 2>phrase quote little brown brother in cables to McKinley, So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, I think I may have, like combined to

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<v Speaker 3>quotations the paternalist racism there is fantastic. I'll drop it

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<v Speaker 3>in later when we're talking to somebody else. I was

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<v Speaker 3>trivit's Cuba, of which country they were referring.

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<v Speaker 2>To, I'm in based on how Puck rhythm, we could

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<v Speaker 2>all be the Little Brown Brothers, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the stereodote.

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<v Speaker 2>They're getting cool, absolutely so. Speaking of protecting US business

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<v Speaker 2>interests overseas, in January eighteen ninety eight, the United States

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<v Speaker 2>sent a warship, the USS Main, to Havannah Harbor, to

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<v Speaker 2>safeguard American business interests there as well as US citizens. However,

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<v Speaker 2>the USS Main sank about a month later, and while

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<v Speaker 2>the cause was likely an internal fire according to recent experts,

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<v Speaker 2>the contemporary opinion in the United States blamed it all

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<v Speaker 2>on Spain. Right, there was this smattering of yellow journalism

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<v Speaker 2>that was like, you know, they did it. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Spain did it to us, even though they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really have a way to prove that, especially not in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, And like the whole like going to the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom of the ocean to look at the USS Main,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a thing like there there have been a series of,

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<v Speaker 3>like I guess underwater archaeology is what it is, expeditions

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<v Speaker 3>to ascertain exactly which duration it blew out, and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the various ones have had various conclusions. I think you

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<v Speaker 3>rightly phrase it here. It doesn't matter what caused the explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>It became a fact absolutely the Yellow Press, that the Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>Did absolutely, And I think it's really interesting that there's

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<v Speaker 2>still and I understand that that why you want to

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<v Speaker 2>like have a genuine conclusion, But the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 2>still being litigated more than what is it like one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty eight, one hundred forty years after a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more, a little bit lesser, a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 2>is still, you know, kind of this conception of American

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<v Speaker 2>nation building where it couldn't be that the press got

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<v Speaker 2>it wrong, that the government got it wrong, and that

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<v Speaker 2>it became a fact in the media. And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>the US invaded Cuba and other Spanish colonies, right that

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<v Speaker 2>the US kind of has to prove itself innocent in

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<v Speaker 2>this regard, so per how to hide an empire? The

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<v Speaker 2>US government and the US media wanted to intervene, but

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<v Speaker 2>anti impeerless in Congress, imagine that didn't want Cuba to

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<v Speaker 2>be annexed to the United States, so to ostensibly show

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<v Speaker 2>that they didn't have colonial ambitions, Congress passed the Teller

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<v Speaker 2>Amendment that stated that they would not annex Cuba. However,

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<v Speaker 2>Congress said nothing of Spain's other colonies. I should also

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<v Speaker 2>say that before the US officially entered the war that year,

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<v Speaker 2>Teddy Roosevelt, then Assistant Secretary of the Navy, had sent

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<v Speaker 2>ships to essentially surround all of the colonies, not just Cuba. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were kind of pretty clearly preparing for something,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the US went to war in eighteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>and it won pretty handily in large part. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is the stuff that a lot of American history books

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<v Speaker 2>won't tell you because of the help of the independence

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<v Speaker 2>movements that had already been fighting in these colonies for decades. However,

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<v Speaker 2>the US did as the US does and essentially discarded

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<v Speaker 2>these independence movements ambitions once they had helped the US

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<v Speaker 2>win the war, showing once again that allies are not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily friends. I feel like this is a recurrency, a

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<v Speaker 2>lesson that has to be taught and learned throughout American.

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<v Speaker 3>History, right, you know, yeah, many, many, many such cases.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. In my opinion, nowhere is this more evident than

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<v Speaker 2>in the Philippines, where the Liberation movement declared independence from

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<v Speaker 2>Spain in June of eighteen ninety eight, yet it went

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<v Speaker 2>unrecognized by the US. Instead, the US choreographed a mock

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<v Speaker 2>battle with Spain that eventually led to them handing over

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<v Speaker 2>their colony to the US per how to hide an empire.

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<v Speaker 2>The Americans lack of recognition for the Filipino independence movement

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<v Speaker 2>would eventually lead to the Philippine American War, where the

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<v Speaker 2>US trampled and devastated the Filipino insurgency that wanted independence

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<v Speaker 2>from one conqueror Spain originally and their newest conqueror, the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. Yeah, you know, ostensibly they came in to

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<v Speaker 2>help these people and then essentially massacred them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, little vexiological aside. The star and triangle device that

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<v Speaker 3>you see on like loads of flags has its like

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<v Speaker 3>birth in this period. I believe it begins with Marti

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<v Speaker 3>and the Cuban independence movement. Obviously, like it characterizes many

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<v Speaker 3>of these states in their independence movement. But for a

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<v Speaker 3>while they're like that flag was like the symbol of

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<v Speaker 3>fighting against imperial conquest. That's why they incorporated it into

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<v Speaker 3>the Catalan flag, the independence cena that has the triangle,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the Catalonia just as a thing without any

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<v Speaker 3>particular political ambition doesn't have the triangle and the star,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have the red triangle for like socialistic, dependentist,

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<v Speaker 3>but like this blue triangle in flags, like it just

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<v Speaker 3>shows how these actions that reverberated around the world. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like Spain had been the empire. Yeah, and they had

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<v Speaker 3>this in Spanish this week we call it the Anosauriblis

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<v Speaker 3>of eighteen ninety eight, right, like the complete collapse of

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<v Speaker 3>Spain's external possessions, and like for a while there people

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<v Speaker 3>are like, huh, yeah, empires can fall, we can defeat them.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately a new one took its place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, empires can fall of the new empire slides

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<v Speaker 3>in there and like gues helps with the fighting, it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't do all like you said, like these people have

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<v Speaker 3>been fighting, Like Martie was dead by the time Maricevelt arrived,

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<v Speaker 3>but he had already begun the independence movement.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually, now that you mentioned that about the triangle,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't include it in this script, right, But the

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<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rican flag is actually directly based on the Cuban

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<v Speaker 2>flag as well. It was made in eighteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe by Puerto Rican exiles in New York who

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<v Speaker 2>were fighting for independence from Spain, and so they essentially

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<v Speaker 2>adopted this Cuban design but inverted the colors to show

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Caribbean solidarity and brotherhood. Yeah, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's been our flag ever since, right, And yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a there's a thing about the Puerto Rican flag that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to get into too much, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>based on the kind of col of the blue in

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<v Speaker 2>the flag, is the political status that you support? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of a myth, kind of a myth that

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<v Speaker 2>it has essentially become the fact, right right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a little hidden flag shit, like the the

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<v Speaker 3>Flounderians with their flag, Like if the lion has claws

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<v Speaker 3>or not, it denotes sarahs on independence. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter if that's what it was designed for. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes true because everyone knows it to be true

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<v Speaker 3>and they're using it to signal that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. In Puerto Rico, the light blue

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of the independence flag. That the medium blue,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of the one that most often is

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<v Speaker 2>used depending on the place, is kind of the status

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<v Speaker 2>quo sometimes independence. And then the darker blue, somewhat of

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<v Speaker 2>the dark blue used in the US flag. Is the

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<v Speaker 2>one that stands for statehood.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't necessarily take this as fact, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's hard for people to get their hands on

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<v Speaker 2>a specific color blue Puerto Rican flag, but you can

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<v Speaker 2>usually tell based on the flag that they're waving around

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<v Speaker 2>what they support.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, actually, speaking of flags, that the flag of the

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Mariana Islands, it goes hard. Have you seen it? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>The Marshal Linds flags, fucking thig. Yes, I'm actually looking

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<v Speaker 3>at it right now. The marsh leis football shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me send the epickero reques.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, that's a sick one. Yeaheah. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of very cool flag designs that I

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<v Speaker 2>witnessed while writing this script.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, No, yeah, that one's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So, speaking about the Philippine American War and the American

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<v Speaker 2>occupation of the Philippines post eighteen ninety eight, quoting from

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<v Speaker 2>Colonial Crucible, the four years of counter guerrilla warfare that

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<v Speaker 2>followed would make accurate intelligence and imperative forcing a marked

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<v Speaker 2>expansion of the military's limited capacities, particularly in the area

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<v Speaker 2>of operational field intelligence. During the campaign in Manila, the

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<v Speaker 2>US Army quote created a modern metropolitan police force that

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<v Speaker 2>applied military intelligence and data management to the problem of

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<v Speaker 2>political espionage, developing covert techniques of surveillance and penetration to

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<v Speaker 2>fight a dirty war in the city's slums and back

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<v Speaker 2>alleys end quote. And according to How to Hide an Empire,

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<v Speaker 2>American gis tortured Filipino guerrillas by administering the quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>water cure, a torture method similar to the waterboarding which

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<v Speaker 2>has happened in Vietnam and Afghanistan, right, and.

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<v Speaker 3>In Cuba in the little US base, So we have

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<v Speaker 3>that as well, right, And you kind of see this

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<v Speaker 3>as part of the imperial feedback or the imperial boomerang

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<v Speaker 3>the colonization of the US's colonies has sent back into

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<v Speaker 3>the United States and how it's reverberated in future imperialist

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<v Speaker 3>or colonialist conquest.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, This one torture method, which is like very similar

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<v Speaker 2>actually to waterboarding, has reverberated throughout American counterinsurgency history. So

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<v Speaker 2>here you can see how the management of empire has

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<v Speaker 2>instructed the US's military apparatus in quelling nationalist movements the

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<v Speaker 2>world over. And this is obviously something that's come back

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<v Speaker 2>towards the American metropol particularly the kind of counterinsurgency used

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<v Speaker 2>in policing American military occupations. Right, This is very common

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<v Speaker 2>because quoting from Colonial crucible quote, colonial regimes only had

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<v Speaker 2>finite resources for costly social controls and generally shows to

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<v Speaker 2>apply them to policing prisons, in law enforcement, and kind

0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:39.839
<v Speaker 2>of the colonial of policing apparatus has reverberated throughout every

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<v Speaker 2>single empire's history.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of Smedley Butler taking the policing techniques he

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<v Speaker 2>learned in Haiti back to Philadelphia with him the Filipino police,

0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of setting the scene for some of the policing

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<v Speaker 2>that would happen in the United States. This is like

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<v Speaker 2>very much a thing that happens the world over. Or God,

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<v Speaker 2>why am I blanking George orwell in India the policing

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<v Speaker 2>that he did and Burma sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which was part of India at the time in

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<v Speaker 3>the British conception.

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<v Speaker 2>So or well, being a policeman there and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>seeing how it impacted back home. And we see this

0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the world over, right, in terms of militarization that the

0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.280
<v Speaker 2>military exports that the US has taken to many, many,

0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.840
<v Speaker 2>many countries the world over, is not reverberating back into

0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:34.840
<v Speaker 2>US streets. Yeah, and actually, in terms of ice and

0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the kind of paramilitary campaign of terror that they're doing,

0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.160
<v Speaker 2>we're seeing the people that the US displaced in other

0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.560
<v Speaker 2>places kind of fleeing there, trying to get a safe

0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:50.240
<v Speaker 2>haven in the US. And the paramilitary tactics that were

0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.400
<v Speaker 2>used against their parents, grandparents, were great grandparents now being

0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.160
<v Speaker 2>used on them, right, so that the cycle of abuse

0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:02.120
<v Speaker 2>and violence doesn't really and said, yeah, so you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>won't invest resources in policing, prisons, in law enforcement these advertisers.

0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.320
<v Speaker 3>We can't say that for sure. It might be the

0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Washington State Highway Patrol again.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back. Meanwhile, in Cuba, as I mentioned previously,

0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.080
<v Speaker 2>anti imperilests in Congress passed the law that met the

0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.520
<v Speaker 2>US could annex it. However, that didn't mean there couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be a military occupation, which lasted until nineteen oh two

0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:44.600
<v Speaker 2>when Cuba declared independence. However, the Plant Amendment stipulated that

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<v Speaker 2>the US could intervene in Cuban affairs, even invade if

0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.960
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to. It also meant that the US could

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<v Speaker 2>establish a permanent naval base there, which is now and

0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.280
<v Speaker 2>then called Guantanamo Bay. Very Actually, that might be the

0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:03.080
<v Speaker 2>one piece of like American overseas empire that I think

0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.640
<v Speaker 2>is very present in the American consciousness. Right, It's much

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<v Speaker 2>more so than like Puerto Rico or Guam or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the fact that it's like a cut out from

0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Cuba to this country, that like the whole thing of

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<v Speaker 3>this half of the Trump administration is hating Cuba and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, oh psych, we also own a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of that island.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, and own it like for more than a

0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.800
<v Speaker 2>century at this point as kind of a bastion of

0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.800
<v Speaker 2>continued control on it, right, because they couldn't annex it completely.

0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.760
<v Speaker 2>But if you just take a little small piece of

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<v Speaker 2>it and then use it for a lot of evil things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to your point about it affecting the metropolitic, so

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<v Speaker 3>much of the worst parts of US history run through

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<v Speaker 3>that little naval enclave there, absolutely, like the worst parts

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<v Speaker 3>of the War on Terror. We're now using it for

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<v Speaker 3>a deportation camp, right, like it's where we do our

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<v Speaker 3>deniable crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, that actually ties very much into a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I'll give a little preview on which is why

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<v Speaker 2>the US Constitution does it really apply in the colonies.

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<v Speaker 2>So the US would go on to occupy Cuba two

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<v Speaker 2>more times from nineteen oh six to nineteen oh nine,

0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.479
<v Speaker 2>and once more from nineteen seventeen to nineteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Even after the US occupation ended, the US would go

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<v Speaker 2>on to have a very good relationship with the Batista

0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:32.080
<v Speaker 2>dictatorship because of American business interest in the Cuban archipelago. However,

0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.720
<v Speaker 2>the Cuban Revolution of nineteen fifty three would eventually mark

0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.959
<v Speaker 2>the end of this relationship, with the US oscillating between

0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:43.040
<v Speaker 2>wanting to outright take over or destroy Cuba again as

0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.359
<v Speaker 2>the current TRP administration wants to do, or to just

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<v Speaker 2>being kind of very critically wary of the government. Right,

0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.920
<v Speaker 2>there was a point in recent American history where tensions

0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.800
<v Speaker 2>between the two countries, and I say tensions, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>really an extremely lopsided kind of hate from the US's part.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a time in recent memory where tensions were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mellowing out. Then you could visit Cuba without

0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:12.560
<v Speaker 2>there being a major international incident. Under Obama, and similar

0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.720
<v Speaker 2>to the Philippines, Cuba became an important part of how

0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.359
<v Speaker 2>the US would portray itself overseas. There were several things

0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.520
<v Speaker 2>that happened in Cuba and have happened in Cuba that

0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.560
<v Speaker 2>have defined the colonial empire right like Guantanamo Bay, but

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<v Speaker 2>this time, I don't want it to be something so

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<v Speaker 2>dark so per colonial crucible. American forces occupying Cuba worked

0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.480
<v Speaker 2>ceaselessly to control the dreaded yellow fever in Havana and

0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the island. But like the public health

0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.960
<v Speaker 2>campaigns of other colonial powers, these efforts were not an

0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.920
<v Speaker 2>expression of medical beneficience. As elsewhere, public health in Cuba

0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.880
<v Speaker 2>served the needs of the colonizer rather than the colonized,

0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.040
<v Speaker 2>to protect commerce, maintain the labor force, safeguard troops and

0:18:55.119 --> 0:19:00.640
<v Speaker 2>colonial administrations, and justify colonial rule. The eratica of yellow

0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.359
<v Speaker 2>fever in Cuba, an unprecedented success of colonial public health

0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.640
<v Speaker 2>achieved for the United States nearly all of these goals.

0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.160
<v Speaker 2>American public health efforts in Cuba were a colonial enterprise

0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.840
<v Speaker 2>that provided economic and political benefits to important supporters of

0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:20.240
<v Speaker 2>the American imperial state. Demonstrated that American imperialism could succeed

0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:25.040
<v Speaker 2>where European powers had failed, and so inspired further American

0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:29.240
<v Speaker 2>colonial expansion in the region. So here you can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of see how even if the US is doing something

0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.360
<v Speaker 2>patently good like eliminated yellow fever in the Cuban archipelago,

0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.360
<v Speaker 2>it's still because they want to further control Cuba and

0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.119
<v Speaker 2>its neighboring islands.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, a similar hookworm eradication campaign took place in Puerto Rico,

0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 2>which remains a US colony to this day. This hookworm

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.440
<v Speaker 2>eradication campaign would go on to inform a similar campaign

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.679
<v Speaker 2>throughout the American South. However, as noted by how to

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<v Speaker 2>Hide an Empire, the Southern campaign largely succeeded in part

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 2>because of a million dollar philanthropic donation from John D. Rockefeller. Meanwhile,

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.360
<v Speaker 2>a victim of colonial neglect, the Puerto Rico project received

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:15.560
<v Speaker 2>only five thousand dollars, and no matter how many hookworm

0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:19.359
<v Speaker 2>pills Puerto Ricans took, they became reinfected again and again

0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 2>because the government did not care to uplift them from poverty,

0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 2>which would have significantly reduced hookworm rates. In comparison, the

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:33.920
<v Speaker 2>US South essentially received this mega donation which helped them

0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.880
<v Speaker 2>uplift them as well as like investing in like school

0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.440
<v Speaker 2>and several other programs that made it, so this hookworm

0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 2>infection wasn't so disastrous for the region. However, Puerto Rico

0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.760
<v Speaker 2>being a colony, they were like, you know, we don't

0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 2>need to do as much. So here we see how

0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.360
<v Speaker 2>colonial health campaigns can be used to benefit the metropol

0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:58.280
<v Speaker 2>at the expense of the colonies. Yes, Cubans and Puerto

0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Ricans got help for their illnesses, but in one case

0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.439
<v Speaker 2>it was used to justify further colonization, and in the

0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.040
<v Speaker 2>other they were used essentially as guinea pigs to help

0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 2>white people of the American South. Puerto Rico was under

0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:14.159
<v Speaker 2>military rule from eighteen ninety eight to nineteen hundreds and

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:18.040
<v Speaker 2>was eventually placed under civil administration in nineteen hundred. Under

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the Forker Act. Puerto Ricans would become American citizens seventeen

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.240
<v Speaker 2>years later, just as the US was entering World War One.

0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.600
<v Speaker 2>It's commonly stated as a myth that we were made

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 2>citizens exclusively to become soldiers, and this is like half right.

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 2>The thinking by the US government was a citizenship would

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.360
<v Speaker 2>convince Puerto Ricans to fight any foreign aggressors that could

0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 2>possibly attack the archipelago, as well as help the US

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:49.360
<v Speaker 2>military project military force into the Caribbean. I should say

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 2>that this is according to the book Soldiers of the

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Nation by Hedi Frankierrierra. And actually Puerto Rico is called

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 2>the Gibraltar of the Caribbean in World War II because

0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.639
<v Speaker 2>of its coastal defenses, got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.800
<v Speaker 2>However, it wouldn't be until nineteen forty nine that we

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.400
<v Speaker 2>were able to choose our own governor and we became

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:11.440
<v Speaker 2>quote estalla livrasociello or commonwealth in nineteen fifty two. I'm

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:15.239
<v Speaker 2>going to spare the political conjecture. Truthfully, estallo liver ras

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 2>socielo is kind of a nonsense statement. It's essentially just

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 2>colony with a fancier name, right, right, There is not

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:27.479
<v Speaker 2>really any difference between Puerto Rico and Guam in this sense, right,

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rico is a commonwealth, same as the Northern Mariana

0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Islands actually, but there is really no difference legally from

0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.359
<v Speaker 2>other colonies by being called an estalla liv rasocielo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 2>And speaking of political repression by the US government, the

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rican independence movement has waxed and waned over the years.

0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 2>All the while the movement has faced pretty brutal political

0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:54.439
<v Speaker 2>repression throughout all that time, including being bombed by the

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Air Force during the nineteen fifty Hadyuya Uprising, one of

0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:01.200
<v Speaker 2>the few times that the US has bod its own citizens,

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 2>as well as the longest domestic surveillance program in US

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 2>history that spanned roughly six decades and track somewhere over

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand people according to the book Las Carbetas

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:18.159
<v Speaker 2>by Tamon Bocqueberees and Jose Jrier col Morrera. Here, like

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the Philippines, we see how the US's imperial quelling of

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 2>nationalist movements would go on to boomerang back to the metropol.

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Las Carpetas as the program is colloquially known, preceded co

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 2>intel Pro and its DNA can be found throughout the

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 2>domestic surveillance programs that we know of and surely those

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>that we don't. And I want to stop here to

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 2>speak a little of the Puerto Rican status debate, because

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a lot of people who don't know anything

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.479
<v Speaker 2>about it acting like experts on Twitter dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the years shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rico has performed several referendums over the decades where

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you vote on the status, and over the last decade,

0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 2>a state has won three of them. Truth be told,

0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 2>these referendums don't actually mean that much in terms of

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 2>measuring public support because they've been boycotted and many people

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>view them in the same way that they would a

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 2>public poll. Also, it's non binding, which means even if

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 2>whatever option wins, nothing's going to happen. Congress is the

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 2>only one that could approve statehood for Puerto Rico, no

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>matter how much Puerto Ricans ask for it. Even so,

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 2>in the last referendum, during the twenty twenty four election,

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 2>some form of independence meaning either full independence or compact

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 2>or free association, received forty one percent support, while statehood

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.439
<v Speaker 2>received fifty nine percent. So while statehood is ostensibly the

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 2>majority choice, it's not as clear cut as many people

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 2>would want you to believe. There's also the fact that

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the government has inculcated a sense of if you don't

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.479
<v Speaker 2>vote for statehood, federal funds will be taken away from

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rico. And in a colony where about forty six

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 2>percent of the public budget is federal funds and nearly

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 2>half of the people fall below the poverty line, that's

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 2>a very very powerful boogeyman. Yeah, and now I'm sorry

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to say that. I'm going to summarize a lot of

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.479
<v Speaker 2>the history of Guam, American Samoa, the US Virgin Islands,

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 2>and the Northern Mariana Islands to get to how the

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Constitution doesn't fully apply there, but I still want people

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 2>to know some of the basic facts about the other colonies.

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Guam was under military rule for forty seven years, first

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>by the US, then Japan for four years during World

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 2>War Two, and again by the US until nineteen fifty,

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 2>when Truman signed the Organic Act of Guam, giving them

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 2>a civilian administration in a civilian court. Meanwhile, the US

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 2>American Samoa in nineteen hundred when local chiefs seeded Tutuila,

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the largest island, to the US. This was followed by

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Manua in nineteen oh four and Swain's Island in nineteen

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 2>oh five, although it's also claimed by Tokelau, a colony

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 2>of New Zealand. As I said during the last episode,

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 2>American Samoans are non citizen nationals and they have to

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 2>naturalize if they want to become American citizens. Per the ACLU,

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 2>being a non citizen national means that they can't be firefighters, paramedics,

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 2>and public school teachers. The US Virgin Islands were bought

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 2>from Denmark for twenty five million in nineteen seventeen. The

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 2>US had been negotiating this in one way or another

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>since eighteen sixty five, and like Puerto Rico, USVII is

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:21.640
<v Speaker 2>an important strategic foothold in the Caribbean for military purposes. Finally,

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 2>the Northern Mariana Islands have oscillated rulers between several empires. However,

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 2>after World War II they became United Nations Trust territories

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>under American administration. It became a colony of the US

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty six. The Marshall Islands, Micronesia and Palau

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 2>were also part of this Trust, but they chose to

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>enter into compacts of free association instead of becoming colonies.

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>There is a common trait among all of these colonies

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 2>that I've mentioned for that which is being key to

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 2>military force projection by the United States in the Caribbean

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 2>and the Pacific. Bases in each of these colonies are

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 2>crucial to the military's logistical ability to deploy throughout the world. Recently,

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 2>a long dormant naval base in Puerto Rico Roosevelt Roads,

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 2>was brought back to life as part of the Trump

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 2>administration's attacks on Venezuela and the boat strikes throughout the

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Caribbean as well as including the Pacific. The planes that

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>are doing the boat strikes aren't leaving from Puerto Rico

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 2>to do in the Pacific. Obviously, another common trait that

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 2>all of these colonies share is that stuff is super expensive,

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 2>in part because of the Jones Act, a nineteen twenty

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 2>shipping law that mandates that any goods traveling between two

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 2>US ports has to move on a US flagged, owned

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>and crude ship. People might be most familiar with this

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 2>law based on the amount of times as sitting US

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>president has put it on pause. In fact, Trump extended

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>the Jones Act waiver for another ninety days just a

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 2>few days ago to assuage pressures from oil price increases.

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>A twenty twenty four working paper by two Purdue University

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 2>economists with backing of the World Bank that the Jones

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Act imposes an annual welfare burden on Puerto Rico of

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>one point or billion dollars because foreign flag commerce ships

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>can't stop in Puerto Rico then go onto Florida, for example,

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>they have to go to Florida first, have all this

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>stuff moved onto a US flag ship, then it comes

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>here and all of this cost is passed on to

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 2>the consumer. The Jones Act also affects Hawaii and Alaska.

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think people who have not experienced this will

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 3>not realize the profound nature to which this and just

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 3>being so far from the colonial core impacts everyday life.

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Like the way you eat is fundamentally determined by the

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 3>fact that this shit is so expensive. I know, like

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 3>this gets particularly the case in you know, the interior

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 3>of Alaska, where just getting there is in and of

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 3>itself expensive. But this has a big role to play.

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Actually this is in the scrip, but in terms

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 2>of Puerto Rico, part of the American industrialization of the archipelago,

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>as well as the kind of the way that it

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>was backed up by the local government, meant that we

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>switched from a kind of agricultural society to an industrial one,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>and we went from growing a ton of our own

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>food to only growing about between ten to twenty percent

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 2>of it, which back then was like very good because

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>there was a boom time for the Puerto Rican economy,

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 2>but kind of now it means that everything is incredibly

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 2>expensive because it has to come from all over the world,

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>get moved onto a US flagship in the contiguous forty

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 2>eight states, then come back here. Right.

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>It places you not only like at a place where

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 3>you're like already paying more, but also the whim of

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 3>shipping costs, oil prices, right, these things that we're all

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 3>seeing and go up right now.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely part of those costs have been assuaged recently because

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 2>of the waivers, But there is a very big contingent

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 2>of people in Puerto Rico who are really dreading the

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 2>moment those waivers stop because things are going to get

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 2>really expensive again. And they're still expensive, but they're going

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>to get even more expensive, right, yeah, yeah, So at

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>this point, if you've been listening closely, you'll notice that

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>there's a pretty glaring emission in what I've covered so far.

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Alaska and Hawaii, he only oversees US territories to become states,

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 2>have gone almost completely unmentioned. I purposefully left them out

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>because they overcomplicated the whole history, and it was easier

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>to put them at the end than in the middle.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>So Alaska was bought from Imperial Russia in eighteen fifty

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 2>six for seven point two million, and Hawaii was annexed

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 2>in eighteen ninety eight after US businessmen and marines did

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>a bloodless cue against the Kingdom of Hawaii and it's

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 2>then queen. They eventually became the forty ninth and fifty

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>estate in the middle of the twentieth century, and the

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of annexation of Alaska and Hawaii is the thread

0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 2>that's been running throughout these two podcast episodes right in

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 2>terms of Alaska its resource extraction. By buying Alaska, they

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>got access to miles and miles of pristine nature that

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>had in it gold, fur and oil. In Hawaii, they

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:18.479
<v Speaker 2>received a strategic foothold in the Pacific, which has become

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>extremely important over the years, particularly at the time that

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>it was annexed during the Spanish American War, where the

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 2>US military had to use it as a launch pad

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 2>essentially for its war in the Philippines and Guam. According

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>to How to Hide an Empire and an article in

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>The Conversation titled Why Russia gave up Alaska, America's gateway

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>to the Arctic by William L. E. Yagruhinsley, the purchase

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 2>of Alaska brought with it a cornucopia of natural resources,

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>including gold, fur, and oil. That could be mined from

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 2>this new territory, as well as nearly four hundred million

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:57.719
<v Speaker 2>pristine acres of New Land, with a comparably small addition

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 2>to the US's majority white racial calculus. And this is

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 2>a very important thing. The United States has never really

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>added territories at this point that would significantly for off

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>the amount of white Anglo Saxon people that inherit it. Right,

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking of choosing to incorporate Oklahoma instead of

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the indigenous state of Sequoia because of how it would

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>affect the amount of white people in the United States.

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the way that it would affect the representation

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 3>in Congress too, right, like specifically partitioning states off in

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 3>such a way that they don't tend to give people

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 3>who are not white representation.

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely. Meanwhile, Hawaii, with a much more multicultural population,

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>was a four year issue, but the US decided to

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 2>make them a state anyway because it helped them reach

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Pacific markets and because it provided an important geopolitical strategic

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>interest during the Cold War. Hawaii was made into a

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 2>state because of the Spanish American War, but it was annexed,

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>not made into a state. A claratory note there right. Yeah,

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm severely flattening history here, but that's the gist of

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>how they became states. And dear listener, you might be

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>asking what makes them different from Puerto Rico and the

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 2>rest of the colonies. The key difference is that Alaska

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 2>and Hawaii where both quote unquote incorporated territories. Meanwhile, Puerto Rico, Guam,

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 2>the US Virgin Islands, the Northern Mariana Islands, and American

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Samoa are quote unquote unincorporated territories. If that distinction means

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 2>nothing to you and it sounds kind of racist, welcome

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 2>to the club. This distinction was created in nineteen oh

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 2>one by a series of racist Supreme Court decisions called

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the Insular Cases. A critical part of the Insular Cases

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>created the doctrine of incorporation that governs non contiguous territories,

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>as well as created the idea of incorporation versus unincorporation,

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 2>creating the legal framework saying that the Constitution does not

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 2>fully apply to the unincorporated territories. Downsvie Bidwell was the

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>most important case here because it created the term unincorporated

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 2>territory to describe Puerto Rico's legal status. Shortly after it

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>had been acquired. The case created the distinction that some

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 2>territories were unincorporated and others were incorporated, like Alaska and Hawaii,

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>which were integral parts of the US and thus bound

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:39.320
<v Speaker 2>for statehood. However, unincorporated territories like Puerto Rico and Guam

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 2>were not on that patht statehood, and they were a

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 2>pertinent to the United States. The same word the US

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 2>used for the islands it claimed under the Guano Islands Act.

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>We were and this is a quote foreign in a

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 2>domestic sense.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 3>What an amazing legal fucking term to come up with,

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 3>right yeah, great.

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Had It's like very incredible because all of this is

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 2>like a legal fiction applied right, like literally right yeah.

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 3>It's a bunch of people dancing around saying long words

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 3>to be like definitally not a colony, dude, No, absolutely not,

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 3>no way, like totally different, broke, I don't know what

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:16.280
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about.

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 2>The US would never have colonies. They are just foreign

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 2>in a domestic sense.

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Another case, the line of e. Bidwell, was decided on

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>the exact same day it explained that Puerto Rico belonged

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 2>to the US. I'm simplifying the explanation here, but when

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>you mix it with Downs and other cases over the years,

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.720
<v Speaker 2>you get the phrase that we know all too well

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.919
<v Speaker 2>owned but not part of. To drive the point home,

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I want a paraphrase from Amy Kaplan's The Anarchy of Empire.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 2>The Insular Cases put Puerto Rico and other colonies in

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 2>a liminal space, both inside and outside of the boundaries

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>of the Constitution, relegating the people who live there to

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:56.240
<v Speaker 2>a permanent state of limbo, neither fully citizens nor completely foreign.

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 2>The Insular Cases cemented the imperial mode of governance so

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.959
<v Speaker 2>thoroughly that many Americans would not even consider their home

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>country to be an empire. These colonies remain in limbo

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 2>to this day, likely never going to be made states,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 2>yet equally as likely to never become independent. This ideological

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 2>and legal framework has extended past the colonies, the most

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>salient example being Guantanamo Bay, a colonial holdover from US

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 2>occupation in Cuba. Per Kaplan in her essay where is

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Guantanamo Bay? Court decisions built on top of the Insular

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Cases recognize the base as domestic for some purposes and

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 2>foreign for others, thus facilitating the quote global reach of

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 2>US power by creating a shadowy hybrid legal system co

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>extensive with the changing needs of empire. Yeah, there have

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 2>been several attempts to overturn the Insular cases, but they

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>remain case law. These cases that describe the people of

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rico and other US colonies as quote, alien races

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and savage tribes, remain the way that the United States

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 2>views its overseas possess. The last challenge to the Insular

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 2>Cases came in twenty eighteen in a case titled Fittsimano

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 2>versus United States, where free non citizen nationals from American

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Samoa challenged the US government's denial to extend it to

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 2>them birthright citizenship. A Utah Federal District court right not

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>an American Samoan court. A Utah Federal District Court declared

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>that American Samoans were citizens of the United States and

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>deserve birthright citizenship, but the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>reversed the decision, citing the Insular cases. And in this

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 2>process there is kind of a very specific othering of

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 2>people of the colonies. Right. You don't get to go

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 2>to your local court and show them, hey, I want

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>to be a part of this part of this nation,

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 2>which is what they wanted. Right, you have to go

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 2>to Utah to the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals and

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, I want you to recognize my constitutional rights.

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 3>That has now got me wondering what circuit they're in, Like,

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 3>do they fall into a federal circuit? No, it doesn't

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 3>have a federal court apparently.

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 2>No, because part of the reason that American Samoa is

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>so different from the rest of the colonies, right, is

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 2>that the indigenous population there has kind of wanted to

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 2>keep them separately and right, there's varying opinions on this right,

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 2>which is why we saw that challenge to the insular cases.

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 2>During that challenge, the country or the government of American Samoa,

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 2>they were pro insular cases, being like, hey, we want

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 2>to continue to this to be case law because it

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't challenge certain laws that they have in the books

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>that people with certain amounts of American Samoan ancestry can

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 2>buy land and those without it can't buy land there.

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so they didn't want to get equal protection

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 3>or something under the equal protection caused a constitution. They

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 3>felt like it was a net pause do for them.

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, but like obviously this has changed through time,

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 2>I should say, right, because right, Yeah, for some it

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 2>means that they can stop gentrification and further colonization of

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 2>their their island, but it also means that their people

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 2>face significant challenges if they choose to travel outside of

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 2>American Samoa, which based on how the US economy works,

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.879
<v Speaker 2>usually means that a significant portion of that population has

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 2>to leave in order to find employment.

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. It's a yeah. I

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 3>think of like how like Marshallese people, they're not US citizens,

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 3>but they can travel to the US without a visa

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 3>and reside and work in the US of visa. But

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 3>like if they join the military, they can join the

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 3>US military. But then if they want to access their

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 3>VA benefits, they have to go to Hawaii, like across

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 3>like a It's a several hour flight, like it's several

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 3>days on a boat. Right, So then like obviously not

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 3>all of the you know, the services that they might

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 3>need medically available on Marjorro, so that they have to

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 3>they have to take that journey just to access to

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 3>benefits that, like in theory, are owed to them.

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not exactly the same situation here in Puerto Rico,

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>but the VA benefits system here is not that great

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 2>compared to the contiguous United States, which in and of

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 2>itself is also not that great from what I've read

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and people have told me, yes, yeah, but there's only

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<v Speaker 2>one hospital here in several clinics. Yeah, so you if

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you live far far away from the hospital, you have

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 2>to travel to that to get vacare. And that that's

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<v Speaker 2>like one of the many, many things where the US

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 2>colonies are forgotten and left by the wayside in terms

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>of these these things that the US government should ostensibly

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>provide for its citizens and the people under its dominion. Right, Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 2>the insular cases essentially said that people in the US

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>colonies were owned but not part of the United States.

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 2>That meant that we had to be given American citizenship

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>if we got it or not the case of American

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Samoa through federal statute. This is different than people born

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 2>in the contiguous United States or Alaska and Hawaii, where

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 2>they get birth right citizenship through the constitution. Because the

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Constitution doesn't fully apply to us, we had to get

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<v Speaker 2>it for a federal statute.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>This means that it would be pretty easy to take

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 2>away birth right citizenship in the colonies compared to taking

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 2>away birth right citizenship throughout the entire US. This is

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 2>something that Virginia Congressman Morgan Griffith wants to do. Griffith

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>presented a law to eliminate birth rights citizenship in the

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 2>US colonies, saying that it was the only thing that

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the US could do to protect American citizenship, and because

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>our American citizenship is free statute several laws forout history.

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<v Speaker 2>In Puerto Rico's it was in nineteen seventeen then codified

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>by the American Nationality Act, he could do it if

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>the law passed Congress. In Congress shows to eliminate birthright

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 2>citizenship here, his press release specifically cited the insular cases

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>as giving Congress the power to take it away. However,

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<v Speaker 2>to be clear, it's very unlikely that this bill will

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 2>even make it to a vote, much less become law.

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 2>But through this kind of fret to take away birthright citizenship,

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 2>we see how the US still has kind of extremely

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 2>direct control over its colonies. Yeah, you know, as I

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 2>hope I have evidence throughout this episode. The American colonies,

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the current American colonies, not the thirteen colonies right, have

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:54.879
<v Speaker 2>always been laboratories for the American experiment right in terms

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 2>of surveillance, in terms of military occupation. And here with

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 2>this this bill that again won't even probably won't even

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 2>make it to a vote, we are seeing the Republican

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>administration trying to experiment with how they can take away

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 2>birth rights citizenship, which they failed to do through Trump's

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 2>executive order, but they are trying to see how they

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 2>can ram it through to take it away from people.

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 2>And recently we saw Trump sign an executive order to

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 2>do a similar thing to ostensibly address quote unquote BIRF tourism,

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 2>a thing that doesn't really matter.

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in the grand scheme of things, it's an infintesimally

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:37.240
<v Speaker 3>small number of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. The thing that I want to express is that

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<v Speaker 2>the US colonies have always been laboratories of empire. What

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 2>happens here doesn't stay here, And contrary to the way

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 2>that many people think the US and other empire is

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:56.760
<v Speaker 2>to be clear, doesn't just exert power, ideology, and movements outwards. Instead,

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>it is in a continuous feedback with its colonies that

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 2>have shaped what happens in the imperial core the same

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 2>way that it has shaped what happens in the imperial periphery.

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 2>And I want to end this episode by talking about

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 2>how Trump has signaled several times towards US territorial expansion.

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 2>He has made moves or said that he wants to

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>annex Canada, Venezuela, Cuba, the Gaza Strip, Mexico, and Greenland,

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 2>among others. And as I mentioned in the last episode,

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 2>he's been obsessed with Greenland for a hot minute, even

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.280
<v Speaker 2>reportedly saying that he wanted to trade it for Puerto Rico,

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 2>which was then ravaged by Hurricane Maria. According to NBC,

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:44.879
<v Speaker 2>his most recent signal was posting a picture of Venezuela

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 2>with the American flag on it, essentially saying that he

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 2>wants to make it the fifty first state. To be clear,

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 2>there are several other places that he could do that in,

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:58.839
<v Speaker 2>but he is projecting this idea of the fifty first

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 2>state as a way of kind of colonial capture. Right right.

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 2>By promising to bring liberty and freedom to Venezuelans, he

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 2>is saying we will make you equal, even though he

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:13.320
<v Speaker 2>has forgotten a bunch of equal rights for four million

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 2>people in the US colonies. And while a lot of

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Trump's rhetoric about territorial expansion of the United States has

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 2>been brushed off as the mad ramblings of a despot

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>without any real power to do so. He did genuinely

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 2>kidnap Nicholas Maduro and has kind of made the country

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 2>into a vasal state of the US. Right, Yeah, and

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I learned that this is called a suserain. A souserain

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 2>is a political leader that expresses power over a separate

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>sovereign entity.

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, with it it in like an informal fashion

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 3>like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, While the lines aren't quite clear enough right now,

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 2>it's become increasingly evident that the US is exerting more

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>than simple influence in Venezuela, making it into a US

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 2>protectorate in all but name. And to be honest, in

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, the US would never add another state to

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the Union, particularly one that would add twenty eight point

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 2>six million LATINX people to the nation's demographics. However, as

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I hope I have evidence throughout the episode, the American

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Empire has various forms of exerting its colonial influence throughout

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the region and the world. Right, it doesn't necessarily have

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to become a state to become owned by the United States,

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>as Puerto Rico, Guam, and several other colonies. Within its

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 2>treatment of its colonies and the insular cases, the US

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>has established a separate ideological and legal framework to treat

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 2>those people and peaces of land that it wants to

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 2>own and occupy, but not incorporate Carlos from the future here.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple days after we recorded this episode, Trump announced

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<v Speaker 2>that he already considered the Strait of Horror meus quote

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 2>unquote American territory. This was reported by several news outlets,

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 2>including The Guardian, which is where I read it originally.

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 2>While it seems pretty obvious that the US government has

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 2>no way of actually establish control over the Strait because

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 2>it's on the losing side of the war, the overture

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 2>towards taking it over is an attempt to establish a

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 2>new sphere of US hegemony in the region. Imperialism is

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 2>a business enterprise, and much like the conquest of the

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Guano Islands and the inhabited colonies meant access to new

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 2>resources and military footholds, US control of the Strait, which

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 2>again very unlikely, would be an incredible boon for the

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 2>US economy. The most comparable thing here would be the

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Panama Canal. Control of the canal helped the US become

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 2>a major global power because it controlled shipping in the region.

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 2>The US government likely wants to do something similar with

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 2>the Strait of Horror Moves, a major maritime passage for

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 2>all types of things that make the economy move. While

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the thread against the Strait is the newest and the

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 2>long line of frets Stantic's new territory to the US,

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 2>we should normalize them. Through its colonies in the insular cases,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as decades of colonialism and imperialism, the US

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 2>is built the apparatus to expand its empire to people

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>and places beyond its borders. While it's unlikely, we shouldn't

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 2>write it off completely, especially as a Trump administration continues

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to signal that it wants to regain domination over the

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Western hemisphere and other parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'd like to read more of your work, where

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<v Speaker 3>can they find you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm at PAKERO to XL on social media. It's

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<v Speaker 2>v a q u e r O two x L.

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm a freelancer, so I've written for a bunch of places.

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>My most recent work has been a series of short

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<v Speaker 2>documentaries about different immigrant populations in Puerto Rico, the Dominican population,

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>the Chinese population, and the Palestinian population. The Palestinian one

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 2>came out a little less than a month ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty much where you can find me. Thanks nice

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<v Speaker 2>for accompanying me on this colonial journey, James.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I do. But yeah, thank you for explaining that.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's really good to have these things

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<v Speaker 3>well wrapped up in a way people can understand, like that.

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