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Speaker 1: A special Mother's Day edition of Is this a great

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Speaker 2: Right, Helen Candell.

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Speaker 1: And then we have Christian Arroyo, whose mother, Kimberly while

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Speaker 1: So we've got two amazing guests that are going to

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Speaker 1: be joining us to talk a little Mother's Day. Obviously

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Speaker 1: this is ahead of Mother's Day, so a friendly reminder

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Speaker 1: or mom a gift right now, so you don't leave

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Speaker 1: it for Sunday morning. All right, So let's take a look.

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Speaker 1: So we've got Mother's Day coming up this Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: it makes me think of your wife, my mom, and

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Speaker 1: the amazing surprise that she gave a Oh gosh, that

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Speaker 2: I don't know where we're going.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were heading down back to Maryland. Needless

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Speaker 1: So they say, go, get this envelope in the back

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Speaker 1: open it. We're driving. I open it and there's four

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Speaker 1: tickets to see the Boston Red Sox take on the

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Speaker 1: then Tampa Bay Devil Rays August ninth, a day game

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Speaker 2: Right, and let's be clear, I had nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with this. I bought the tickets for the game. Your

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Speaker 2: mother set up the rest through Doctor Charles Steinberg tell

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Speaker 2: us what the highlight of your day was at Fenway. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I mean, among many highlights it was.

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Speaker 1: It was really magical. I think being able to go

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Speaker 1: I actually have photos that my mom put together from

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Speaker 1: Old am I twenty years ago? Almost? And I still

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Speaker 2: Right, And we walked across the field out to the

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Speaker 1: How about your mom, my grandmother, Nana, any great mother, see, oh,

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Speaker 2: A million of them. Of course, your grandmother Nana. My

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Speaker 2: She was the greatest grandmother of all time. She took

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Speaker 2: So I got a license plate like made up for him,

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Speaker 2: She was a cricket player, not a baseball player. They

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Speaker 2: Nanna says, I think the cricket bowlers throw harder than

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Speaker 1: A big shout out to all of the baseball moms

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Speaker 2: All right, The Twins won twelve games in a row, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: they had this thing going there. Their celebration after a

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Speaker 1: Well, you have some experience. You dressed as a sausage

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Speaker 2: Right, Jeff. Look, I refuse to repeat this, but now

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Speaker 2: Thanks. I wasn't sure about that, So long story short,

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Speaker 1: Well, I know you you've spent a long time, storied

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Speaker 1: the Mets have posted a director of baseball mascot operations,

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Speaker 1: and quite frankly, a lot of people send it to me. Ironically,

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Speaker 1: I like to think that you know, this podcast and

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Speaker 1: this is a retirement job.

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Speaker 2: For you have auto the orange you you were great

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Speaker 2: you to go to college. You dress up in an

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Speaker 2: orange shoot. Thank you for bringing up such an unpleasant subject.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you give me a paper cut? And poor

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Speaker 1: Closed, all right, can we please get Billy Crystal on

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Speaker 1: Please, We got to do that. If Billy Crystal by

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Speaker 2: So that's just start desperate place right. A couple other things.

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Speaker 2: The Orioles are red hot. In their last seven games

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Speaker 2: So they're a takeaway. They're not only good lead the

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Speaker 2: He's got five walks and fifty strikeouts. No picture since

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Speaker 2: Keep this in mind. This week, your Phillies team won

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Speaker 2: So now twelve times this year a team has struck

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Speaker 2: the game twelve times. Already, it happened a total of

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Speaker 2: it just shows you how much things have changed, how

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Speaker 2: seventeen years. And the last thing, Jeff, and you were

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Speaker 2: I saw something in a Major League game the other

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Speaker 2: There right and Jeff. On this date yesterday, Willie Mays

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Speaker 2: hundred home runs, and ten Gold gloves. He stole well

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Speaker 2: over three hundred bases He's one of the greatest base

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Speaker 2: runners I've ever seen. And I once asked Johnny Bench

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Speaker 2: about him, and Johnny Bench said, oh, Willy Mays greatest

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Speaker 2: player ever. He said he was magical, he was perfect.

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Speaker 2: And Felipe Ulou, who was one of his teammates, said,

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Speaker 2: Willy Mays was too good. That's how good he was.

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Speaker 2: Now this is Willie was a very funny guy. So

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Speaker 2: in one off season, Bill White, who was his dear friend,

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Speaker 2: who was on the Cardinals at the time, Willie said,

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Speaker 2: come on over for dinner. This is in the off season.

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Speaker 2: So Bill White comes over for dinner, and Bill White

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Speaker 2: brings with him Bob Gibson, who at the time was

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Speaker 2: the best pitcher in base certainly the best pitcher in

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Speaker 2: the National League. So they get to Willie's door and

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Speaker 2: it's Bill White. And Willie opens the door and says, Bill,

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Speaker 2: great to see you. And he says, who's that with you,

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Speaker 2: and Bill White goes Willie, it's Bob Gibson. Bob Gibson

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Speaker 2: wore glasses when he didn't pitch, and he had his

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Speaker 2: glasses on, and Willie didn't even recognize a guy that

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Speaker 2: he had faced a million times, and Willy looked at

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Speaker 2: him with that with that beautiful voice. He goes, wait

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Speaker 2: a minute, Bob, you wear glasses, And Bob goes, yes,

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Speaker 2: I wear glasses. Willi goes, You're gonna kill somebody if

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Speaker 2: you don't wear them when you pitch. What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: So happy birthday to Willie Mays. And also on this

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Speaker 2: date Jamie Moyer, who won over two hundred major league games.

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Speaker 2: He pitched a shutout at age forty seven, so he

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Speaker 2: passed Phil Nicro as the oldest man ever to pay

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Speaker 2: to shut out in a major league game. So Digger Phelps,

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Speaker 2: who you met that day at ESPN, Digger Phelps is

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Speaker 2: the father in law to Jamie Moyer. Jamie Moyer married

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Speaker 2: Digger Phelps's daughter. So Digger told me the story one

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Speaker 2: night that Jamie's children, little children are driving home with

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Speaker 2: him after a game because Jamie threw like eighty miles

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Speaker 2: an hour, eighty four miles an hour, but he was

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Speaker 2: really good. So finally one of the kids in the

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Speaker 2: car while they're driving home says to his dad, Dad,

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Speaker 2: could could you just throw one pitch ninety miles now,

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Speaker 2: or you know, just for me? And Jamie says, son,

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Speaker 2: look that's not what I do. I don't throw hard.

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Speaker 2: And the kid looks at the sphinometer and he says, Dad,

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Speaker 2: you're driving the car fast right now that you could

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Speaker 2: throw a baseball. You gotta love that from Jamie Moyer.

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Speaker 1: It's in the cards. We're going to open up a

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Speaker 1: pack of Tops baseball cards live the show. Great sound,

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Speaker 1: great sound, and then we're gonna rifle through the cards

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Speaker 1: and talk about each player.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: I say this every week, but just in case people

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Speaker 1: want a little more interaction, you can actually see us

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Speaker 1: open the cards and see the cards themselves. If you

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Speaker 1: follow us on YouTube. Great game or what you can

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Speaker 1: see their first one up. We've got Justin Steele bhy.

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Speaker 2: Justin Steele of the Cubs was in this cy Young

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Speaker 2: candidacy last year. He's really good, but the and he

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Speaker 2: just got activated on Monday because he'd been hurt, which

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Speaker 2: is great news for the Cubs. But in the All

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Speaker 2: Star Game last year, get this, Jeff, he made his

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Speaker 2: first All Star appearance. It came on his birthday and

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Speaker 2: it was also the same birthday as his one year

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Speaker 2: old son. I mean, how great a day is that

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Speaker 2: you pitching your first All Star Game? It's your birthday,

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Speaker 2: and it's your son's first birthday.

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Speaker 1: I am so jealous because my wife missed it by

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Speaker 1: three hours and fifty six minutes. For our daughter and

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Speaker 1: I to have the same birthday. Can't help but think

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Speaker 1: she did that on purpose.

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Speaker 2: No, she didn't. And you also would never pitch in

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Speaker 2: the All Star Game. This is true.

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Speaker 1: This is true Byron Buxton.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, Byron Buxton has like I had a lot

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Speaker 2: of languageries. But when he's healthy, he's just about as

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Speaker 2: fast as any player in the major leagues. And he's

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Speaker 2: really tall, and he's got these long, beautiful loping strides.

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Speaker 2: He looks like an Olympic you know runner to me.

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Speaker 2: So my hypothetical question for the week, Jeff, is this.

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Speaker 2: I think that a really fast baseball player like Byron Buckston,

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Speaker 2: when he's healthy, can run around the basis of a

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Speaker 2: baseball diamond faster without question than Usain Bolt, who is

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Speaker 2: the world's fastest human. Which I've always loved that, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: world's fastest human. That implies, of course, the only thing

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Speaker 2: in the world that can beat you at a race

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Speaker 2: is like an animal. Okay that, so, do you think

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Speaker 2: I'm right that a really fast baseball runner, and there

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Speaker 2: was an art to cutting the bags on each You know,

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Speaker 2: you got to know how to run the bases if

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Speaker 2: you're going to get around the basis. You say Bolt

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Speaker 2: obviously could beat any baseball player in any sprint any time.

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Speaker 2: But I say a really fast baseball runner can circle

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Speaker 2: the bases faster than you say Bolt.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree, but I worry if you give you

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Speaker 1: same Bolt heads up, he would be able to maybe

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Speaker 1: figure this out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm going to give him a month

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Speaker 2: to figure it out, and I still think Byron Buxton

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Speaker 2: is a speediest prime is going to beat him around

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Speaker 2: the base jet. I'm telling you cutting a bag is

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Speaker 2: a an art. Well nobody, but nobody ever cuts second

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Speaker 2: base on a triple better than Willie Wilson in the

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Speaker 2: early eighties. I can still picture it in my mind.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like we're asking you same Bolt to

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Speaker 1: like turn the double player right, good point.

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Speaker 2: We're not asking him to hit ninety eight miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you base running is hard. All right.

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Speaker 1: We've got cal Rally.

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Speaker 2: Carl Raleigh is a switch hitting catcher for the Mariners.

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Speaker 2: He's really good behind the plate. He can really throw,

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Speaker 2: and his nickname is nickname, and it is a nickname

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Speaker 2: that he fully embraces, his big Dumper. So I said,

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm told that they call you big Dumper

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Speaker 2: because your butt's the size of a truck. And he

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Speaker 2: looks at me he goes, Yep, that's about right. So

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Speaker 2: so he's a beloved character in Seattle because he's a

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Speaker 2: really good player and he doesn't mind being called big Dumper.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget this is a family show. Yeah, so let's

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Speaker 1: not go into details on that nickname.

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Speaker 2: Dane Dunning a Dane Dunning pitch for the pitches for

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Speaker 2: the Rangers, the world champion Rangers, and Bruce Bochie told

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Speaker 2: me he was our MVP pitcher last year, the year

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Speaker 2: they won the World Series, because he could pitch and

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Speaker 2: so many different roles. But he wears these incredibly thick goggles.

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Speaker 2: So I finally went to him and I said, Dane,

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Speaker 2: what's the deal behind the goggles? And he goes, well,

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Speaker 2: I have to wear them, he says, because I'm basically blind.

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Speaker 2: He said, I've basically been blind since I was seven

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Speaker 2: years old. I had trouble in school, and my parents

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Speaker 2: thought like there was something wrong with me. It was

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Speaker 2: just that I couldn't see. So he's been wearing these

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Speaker 2: incredibly So when you see him pitch in a major

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Speaker 2: league game and he's wearing these odd goggles, they're more

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Speaker 2: than goggles. They allow him to pitch in the major

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Speaker 2: leagues because now he can see.

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Speaker 1: Last, but not least, Pete Alonzo, well, Pete.

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Speaker 2: Alonso is one of the greatest power hitters in the

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Speaker 2: history of the Mets. I'm still not quite sure why

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Speaker 2: they haven't signed him long term. He loves playing for

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Speaker 2: the Mets, he loves playing in New York, and he's

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Speaker 2: just a different Caddy went to the University of Florida.

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Speaker 2: He's got a great sense of humor. So I drove

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Speaker 2: with him to the ballpark ones as part of a

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Speaker 2: spring trading thing, right along with Pete Alonzo. So among

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Speaker 2: the many things that he told me that he can

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Speaker 2: do besides play baseball is he makes deer jerky. Deer jerky,

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Speaker 2: deer jerky, so like beef jerky. He says, I make

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Speaker 2: deer jerky and it's really good. I said, how good

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Speaker 2: is it? Well, he said, it's way better than the

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Speaker 2: kind that you can get out of gas station. Let

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Speaker 2: me put it that way. So Pete Alonso, major power hitter,

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Speaker 2: could also make deer jerky.

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Speaker 1: And Pete Alonzo also a great name if he was

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Speaker 1: from Baltimore. Pete ALONZI.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to We're going to have Scott van Pelton

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Speaker 2: and he's going to make his laugh for twenty straight minutes.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people have been asking for that accent,

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Speaker 1: so we thought we would give it to you. League

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Speaker 1: in Lids if you missed it last week, I got

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Speaker 1: a brand new lid from Lids I purchased online with

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Speaker 1: all of the team logos. We put each and every

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Speaker 1: team name into the lid and then we just rattle

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Speaker 1: off what's going on with that team and we leave

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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 2: For the following week.

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Speaker 1: And I'm pretty happy about this choice. We've got the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Philly.

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Speaker 2: Oh good choice this week. Jeff, your Philadelphia Phillies until

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Speaker 2: you live here in Philly and you and Emily have

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Speaker 2: really latched on to the Phillies. Through Sunday that they

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Speaker 2: won sixteen out of nineteen games. They're really starting to

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Speaker 2: go Alec Bohm became the second third baseman ever Jeff

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Speaker 2: to get to thirty RBIs by May the first Vinnie

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Speaker 2: Castilla with thirty three in nineteen nineties. The only other

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Speaker 2: third baseman ever to get to thirty RBIs by May

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Speaker 2: the first, and no Philly, not even Mike Schmidt. The

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Speaker 2: greatest Philly ever had ever gotten to thirty RBIs before

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Speaker 2: May the First. And by the way, about Mike Schmidt,

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Speaker 2: he's the greatest third baseman ever. So I'm doing a

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Speaker 2: game from the dugout with with Aaron Boone and Rick

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Speaker 2: Sutcliffe and Sean McDonough and they're up in the booth

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Speaker 2: and I'm down on the dugout. We're doing a game

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Speaker 2: in Philly. So they asked me. They say, Mike Schmidt's

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Speaker 2: stuff is all over the ballpark. Tell us about Mike Schmidt.

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Speaker 2: So I said, well, he's one of the greatest players ever.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: He he won ten goal gloves, he won eight home

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Speaker 2: run titles. So I just threw out a line. He

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Speaker 2: can play the piano and he can move it too,

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Speaker 2: because he's so strong and he's also so graceful. He

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Speaker 2: can play the piano and move it to It was

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Speaker 2: just a line. It was a throwaway line. Rick Sucklip,

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Speaker 2: my dear friend, I love one of the great teammates,

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Speaker 2: Ever says on the air, he said, I had no

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Speaker 2: idea that Schmidy could play the piano, so I had

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Speaker 2: to explain he can't play the piano. I was kidding.

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Speaker 2: It was just a line.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. I mean it's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: what's the word, a metaphor, so to speak. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can play a piano, but I definitely can't move one.

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Speaker 2: That's for sure. All right.

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Speaker 1: So Mother's Day is coming up this Sunday, and we

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Speaker 1: wanted to do this episode ahead of Mother's Day because

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Speaker 1: we release every Tuesday at midnight midnight Eastern, so that'll

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Speaker 1: be nine pm Pacific on Mondays for our coast friends.

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Speaker 1: And Mother's Day is super important because moms are the

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Speaker 1: ones that have driven everybody to all of these games.

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Speaker 1: But our two guests, as I mentioned at the top

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Speaker 1: of the show, these moms were even more involved in

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Speaker 1: raising their children in the sense of Casey Kandell's mom

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Speaker 1: played in the league that was made famous in Aliga

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Speaker 1: of their own that's now enshrined in the Baseball Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, and Christian Oro's mom, Kimberly, was catching at

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Speaker 1: eight months pregnant it's just two powerhouse moms. So we're

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Speaker 1: excited to talk to them. But before let's talk Mother's

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Speaker 1: Day in baseb All.

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Speaker 2: Right, So Mother's Day in baseball has had a lot

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Speaker 2: of great days. Twenty twelve, Joey Vado hit three homers

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Speaker 2: on Mother's Day, including a walk off grand slang.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Freddie Lewis of the Giants hit for the cycle in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven on Mother's Day. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Willie Mays, Hank, Aaron Babe, Ruth Barry Bonds never hit

656
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Speaker 2: for the cycle. Think about that for a second. I

657
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Speaker 2: love this. Bill Hall two thousand and six of the Brewers.

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Speaker 2: His mother, Nettie, he drove ten hours to watch him

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Speaker 2: play on Mother's Day. And this was the first year

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Speaker 2: that they used a pink They used pink bats in

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Speaker 2: the game, and he had his mother's name engraved in

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Speaker 2: his bat, the bat that he used to hit a

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Speaker 2: walk off home run on Mother's Day when his mother

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Speaker 2: was there. Wow, how great is that?

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Speaker 3: Is?

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Speaker 2: So special? And my dear friend Dallas Braden, he lost

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Speaker 2: his mother to cancer while he was in high school,

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Speaker 2: so he was basically adopted by his grandmother, Peggy. And

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Speaker 2: I've literally cried hearing stories from Dallas about the relationship

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Speaker 2: between he and his grandmother. So he invited his grandmother

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Speaker 2: to make sure she came to watch him pitch on

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Speaker 2: Mother's Day of twenty ten, and he pitched a perfect game,

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Speaker 2: twenty seven up and twenty seven down. That's what Those

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Speaker 2: are just a few things that have happened on Mother

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Speaker 2: Day in Major League history. But there are other mothers

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Speaker 2: just like you said, Jep who have been very involved

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Speaker 2: in their kids' lives and not just driving them to

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Speaker 2: the games. Ryan Klescoe used to play for the Braves,

679
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: big power, hitting first basement was a good picture in

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Speaker 2: high school, and he and his mom built a mound

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Speaker 2: in the backyard, a picture's mound in the backyard of

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Speaker 2: their house. And Missus Klesco used to catch Ryan in

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Speaker 2: the backyard. And he swears to me, he goes she

684
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Speaker 2: would wear a mask, but she wouldn't wear shint guards

685
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Speaker 2: and she caught her high school son in the backyard.

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Speaker 2: How that's how great is that. Sean Figgins played for

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Speaker 2: the Angels couple other teams, and he could fly as

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00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: one of the fastest players in the league. So I

689
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: always ask, like, you know, what were your parents athletes,

690
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 2: and he goes, oh, yeah, my mom and my dad

691
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: played on like this traveling softball team was like a

692
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: traveling co ed softball team beat everyone.

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Speaker 1: And I said the circus, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I said, your mom. He said she played third base.

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Speaker 2: He said she could fly, she base it soft. And

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Speaker 2: that's the hot corner, right, that's Sean Figgins mother.

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Speaker 1: I loved Sean Figgins when I was playing stratumatic with

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Speaker 1: you because he was the ultimate utility player.

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Speaker 2: You can put him anywhere anyway, right right. So Mark Reynolds,

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Speaker 2: who at two hundred ninety nine major League homers, really

701
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Speaker 2: good player. Love. Mark Reynolds tells great stories. So we

702
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 2: were talking once. He loves his mom, and his mom

703
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: is like the greatest baseball fan. She understands exactly what

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Speaker 2: she's watching. So I was writing a story about how

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Speaker 2: difficult the game is to play. So he looks at

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Speaker 2: me and he goes, yeah, my mom called me last

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00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: night and she asked me after the game. She said,

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Speaker 2: how did you miss that two oh slider? So Mark

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Speaker 2: had to say, Mom's it's not that easy. It looks right,

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Speaker 2: And a little bit of a change here. Wendy Lowe

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00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: is the mother of Josh and Nathaniel Low. Now Wendy

712
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: has had some health problems. We are wishing our best

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Speaker 2: for Wendy Low to pull through this. She has two

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Speaker 2: major league sons and she's seen them play at the

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Speaker 2: same in the same game, and she famously said, I

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Speaker 2: root for who's ever on offense. So when Nathaniel seems

717
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: at bad, I root for them. When Josh's teams at bad,

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00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: I root for them. So best of luck to Wendy.

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Speaker 2: And the last thing is Pete Crow Armstrong who we

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. His mother is Ashley Crow and she's an

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Speaker 2: actress and she played the mom in the movie Little

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Speaker 2: Big League, which was about a kid who's like playing

723
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Speaker 2: for the Cubs, and she was the mother. And then

724
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Speaker 2: Pete Armstrong got traded for the Mets to the Cubs.

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Speaker 2: So now it works. It just works perfectly, which brings

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Speaker 2: up my question to you, Jeff, your favorite baseball movie

727
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Speaker 2: is this is a fairly obviously we could throw it

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Speaker 2: open to the viewers, but what is your favorite baseball movie?

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Speaker 2: Field of Dreams, right, no question, no doubt, no hesitation,

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Speaker 2: And it's that for what reason? Because it's the movie

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Speaker 2: it's a movie about a father and a son, and

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Speaker 2: it's it's a movie about I mean, yeah, you could throw,

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Speaker 2: and it's got ghosts and all that stuff, but really

734
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Speaker 2: it's it's about Ray being able to play catch with

735
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Speaker 2: his dad once again. And I cry every time I

736
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Speaker 2: watch that movie. It's my favorite baseball movie of all time.

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Speaker 1: I know this is a little bit not a forced transition.

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Speaker 1: I promise you Field of Dreams number one for the

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Speaker 1: both of us, and it's easy for us. But I

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Speaker 1: think the most underrated baseball movie of all time has

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Speaker 1: to be a league of their own. Think about the cast.

742
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Speaker 1: You've got Tom Hanks, for goodness sake, You've got Rosie O'Donnell.

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Speaker 2: You've got Madonna, we got Geena Davis, you got Lori Petty.

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Speaker 2: It was a great movie. It was beautifully done. Penny

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Speaker 2: Marshall was all over that movie. She produced it, she directed,

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Speaker 2: produced it. In all, it was a great movie. There's

747
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Speaker 2: no crying in baseball. We still use that line years

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Speaker 2: and years later. And who do we have coming up

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Speaker 2: in our interview?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is exciting. So we have Christian Arroo. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, his mom, Kimberly, was an absolute star

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Speaker 1: of a mother, catching him at eight months pregnant. But

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Speaker 1: Casey Kandell's mom actually played professional baseball in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's enshrined in that great movie and in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. So we're gonna hear from both of them,

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Speaker 1: and it's really special because it'll make you think of

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Speaker 1: your mother the way they speak of their moms. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: can't wait, Christian oroo Casey Kandell coming up next.

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Speaker 2: We are celebrating Mother's Day here on Is this a

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Speaker 2: great game or what? And we're with Casey Kandell, former

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Speaker 2: Major league player whose mother, Helen, played in the women's

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Speaker 2: Professional Baseball league years and years ago. Casey, I'm with

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Speaker 2: my son Jeff. Thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's my pleasure. It's great, great to be on

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Speaker 3: and and to talk about a really good baseball player.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, let.

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Speaker 2: Me start Casey with as a kid, what were the

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Speaker 2: father mother son softball games like at school when your

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Speaker 2: mother was as good as she was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, my older brothers they tell a story where

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Speaker 3: she got she actually got kicked out of the mother

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Speaker 3: the mother the mother son little league event. They were

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Speaker 3: afraid he was going to hurt somebody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that I mean, it's that the first time ever,

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure dads have been told you can't be

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Speaker 1: a part of this, mister Griffin, but I'm sure this

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Speaker 1: is the first time ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was. Yeah, it was a great,

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Speaker 3: great and so yeah, it was like days kind of asked, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, could you could you step back? Somebody could

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Speaker 3: get hurt.

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Speaker 1: That is so funny now, you know, naturally usually that

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Speaker 1: father son baseball bond throwing, you know, catch in the backyard,

784
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Speaker 1: getting ready for a big game, or the pet talks

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Speaker 1: on the way to the game. Did you have those

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Speaker 1: with your mom? Was she teaching you how to be

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Speaker 1: a ballplayer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of the mental side. I

789
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Speaker 3: mean she she was really good with that. I mean

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Speaker 3: she she would play catch. I thought everybody's mom was

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Speaker 3: doing it, you know, hit ground balls, play catch. I

792
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Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, but moms do, I guess, and

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Speaker 3: you know, not not until I got older that I realized,

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Speaker 3: oh that was very unique, and you know, she was

795
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: she was a player. But yeah, she she would talk

796
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Speaker 3: to me as I was growing up, and you know,

797
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Speaker 3: just just about how to handle yourself and and how

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Speaker 3: to play the game and that you know, you can

799
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Speaker 3: never have a bad day of hustling. So you know what,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to take any it doesn't take any

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Speaker 3: talent to do that. So those were the kind of

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Speaker 3: things she had build in me growing up.

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Speaker 2: Right, Casey, how old were you when you understood that

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Speaker 2: your mother was a player and that you could see

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Speaker 2: that she was really a player.

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Speaker 3: I'd say, like, you know, nine ten, but uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize she didn't ever talk about being in

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Speaker 3: the league, you know, not until my brother, you know,

809
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: kind of got into the documentary thing and kind of

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00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: started asking her questions about But she never she used

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Speaker 3: to say. She used to say when I was going up, yeah, well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I played baseball too. And I said, baseball, mom.

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Speaker 5: You just played baseball.

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Speaker 3: You played softball, like you know, girls played softball. She's like, no, no,

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Speaker 3: we were in a baseball league. Was like, what do

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Speaker 3: you mean a professional league.

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Speaker 5: I was like, now you work, come on, but you

818
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 5: know it all, it all was true.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, it's pretty cool, Casey.

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Speaker 1: I have to ask, because you know, there's this league

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Speaker 1: is enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame, as it

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Speaker 1: should be, but also in cinema, a league of their

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Speaker 1: own is one of my favorite movies of all time.

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Speaker 1: In watching that movie and then comparing that to stories

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Speaker 1: from your mom, was it pretty accurate because it seems

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Speaker 1: like that lifestyle was pretty incredible and the movie documented

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Speaker 1: it pretty well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean she used to say about the road trips,

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Speaker 3: you know that it was you know, it was like

831
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Speaker 3: they were on the road on the bus. Sometimes you know,

832
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: the bus would break down, but they would take long

833
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: road trips and you know, you know, the kind of

834
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Speaker 3: the grind and everything was, you know, it was it was.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty true to life as to what they

836
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Speaker 3: went through. I mean, I think I would assume that,

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Speaker 3: you know, in real life it was probably a little

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Speaker 3: more difficult, but uh but you know, you know, during

839
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Speaker 3: that time, it was it was pretty uh pretty unique.

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00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: And so you know, I asked her, I asked her

841
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Speaker 3: who she was like in the in the movie, and

842
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: she she said, oh, I was like the Madonna character.

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Speaker 4: No, mom, not not all the way back.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure I'm sure they had a better third

845
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Speaker 1: basement than Rose o'donald.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Casey, you had a good major league career. You

847
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: played for nine years, three different teams. Did your mom

848
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: ever call you after a game and even offer some

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Speaker 2: advice as to what you were doing. Did she come

850
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: to a bunch of your games? How did that go?

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00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, she came to a lot of games, but she

852
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: could never watch because she was always always concerned about

853
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: how I was gonna do. And uh and you know,

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00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: rightfully so, because I was very mediocre.

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Speaker 5: But but you know, she was.

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Speaker 3: She the only thing I you know, I remember, you know,

857
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: her coming down on the field and kind of picking

858
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Speaker 3: up my bat for the first time, and she was saying, like,

859
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: you swing this little thing. She's like, this is this

860
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: isn't even very what is this is too light?

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Speaker 5: Baby?

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00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 3: Laugh because you know she was just like, you.

863
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 5: Need a heavier bat.

864
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: What are you doing? But yeah, she would travel around.

865
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: It was great, Casey. Your mom was once called the

866
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: Ted Williams of women's baseball.

867
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean pretty lofty.

868
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: I guess no one ever called you Ted Williams along

869
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: the way, correct, No, But.

870
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: That's that's that's pretty that's a pretty tough one to

871
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: live up to, you know. Yeah, okay, Ted.

872
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 5: Williams of women's So I got no chance.

873
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: Uh, your aunt Marge, aunt Margaret actually played in the

874
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: same league, Is that correct? And tell us about her.

875
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, she played second, My mom played center. She played second.

876
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: I think I think Marge was was a little older,

877
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: and my mom had gone down to see if she could,

878
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: you know, make a team, and she made it, and

879
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 3: then I think her father sent Marge down there to

880
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: to go down and take care of Helen. So they

881
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: both ended up, I think briefly on the same team,

882
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 3: and they both played together. So yeah, it's pretty amazing.

883
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: She's just, hey, go down there and make the big

884
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: make the professional league with your sister and just play

885
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: with her.

886
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 5: Let's go down there and take care of her.

887
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 3: So she went down and she was good enough and

888
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: say they're both they both played for a while.

889
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: That's exactly what happens in the league there, sister sister

890
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: and says all right, well yeah you can come.

891
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: Too, right, yeah, right, exactly right.

892
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: The documentary you've seen that how many times?

893
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: Casey, oh, quite a few?

894
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: I have it.

895
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 3: My brother, My brother did it, so he gave me one.

896
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: Was that his idea to do it? Did others jump

897
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: in and say, somebody's got to do something about this,

898
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: given how great your mom was.

899
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: I think he had just he was talking to my

900
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: mom and and his friend Kim Wilson, who did the

901
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: documentary with him. They just started asking her questions. Then

902
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: they found out there was a reunion every year of

903
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: the league, and so they ended up going to that

904
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: and then getting all those kinds of stories and then

905
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: you know, ended up getting footage and just did the

906
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: whole documentary on it. So, I mean, it was something

907
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: that really nobody had known about or anything. Just they

908
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: were still getting together as a as a as a organization,

909
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: the a pg L b L I think, and you know,

910
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: they would have their reunions every year, and then he

911
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: kind of went to one of them and did some interviews.

912
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: So it was kind of really cool.

913
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: That is so special for them to be able to

914
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: revisit that time and have a documentary.

915
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: To prove it. Right in Casey, Yeah, very very You

916
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: did out homer your mother in your major league career

917
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: and her professional career. It's eleven to seven. Did you

918
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: ever give her a hard time about that?

919
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? My bad, big enough, Bobby. Yeah, it's heavy enough.

920
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: I out homer you and I think you saw about it.

921
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: She might have sold about three hundred.

922
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 5: More pieces than the stuff that I don't know, and.

923
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: She was wearing a skirt.

924
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 5: Well she did it, Yeah, exactly, certain skirt.

925
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: Last thing for me, Casey, and thanks for joining us

926
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: on Mother's Day. What's the first thing that comes to

927
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: your mind about your mother when you think about Mother's

928
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: Day after all these years.

929
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 3: Just everything that she did for her kids and sacrificed

930
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 3: and how she was always there and making sure that

931
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: you know, we were taken care of, and she was

932
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: home when we came home from school, and then she'd

933
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: go back to work and just just you know, her

934
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: all unconditional love and and then you know, I always

935
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: I always remember her watching me and how good of

936
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: an athlete she was, watching me an athletic and just

937
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: just being having a hard time watching just because you know,

938
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: she wanted it to be so good. So you know,

939
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 3: that's always that's always a memory. But you know, all

940
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: the things that she sacrificed for for my shelf and

941
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: my brother.

942
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I forgot to ask Casey, when you made

943
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: it to the big leagues and you made your major

944
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: league debut, did she get did you get a call

945
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: from her? Did was she there for your debut? I mean,

946
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: what was it like when you actually went to the

947
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: big leagues for the first time.

948
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I just got I was stunned because

949
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: I wasn't on the I wasn't on the forty man

950
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 3: or anything. But when I got called up for Andre Dawson,

951
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: and that was quite something, you know, to figure like

952
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: eighty percent and Andre Dawson was probably worth one hundred percent,

953
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: but I think he might he might have said that too.

954
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: But but you know, I called her and she was

955
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: just just beside herself with happiness and just you know,

956
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 3: reveling in the joy that I had from achieving my goal.

957
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: And she was very proud. And she didn't get to

958
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: go because it was in Montreal and she was in California.

959
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 3: But when we came out to Los Angeles, she got

960
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: to come and watch some games and and she got

961
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: to sit up in the box with Vin Scully and

962
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: talk to him for a little bit. So that was cool.

963
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: That is so so cool.

964
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he got a ton of stories from

965
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: talking to your mom, because it's not just like, yeah,

966
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: talking to some rookies.

967
00:49:59,080 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: Mom.

968
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 5: He was can a right, right.

969
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: So it was very cool.

970
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: Well, Casey, again, thank you so much for joining us

971
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: and telling about your mom. Helen Candell who played in

972
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: the Women's Professional Baseball League. Happy Mother's Day to all

973
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: the moms out there, and thank you Casey for joining us.

974
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: Yes, it's happy Mother's Day that everybody.

975
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: We're joined by Major league infielder Christian Arroyo, Christian Is

976
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 2: Jeff and Tim Kirkchin.

977
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: How you doing, I'm doing great, Fallows. Thank you guys

978
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 4: for having me. I appreciate it.

979
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: Of course. How much did your mother have to do

980
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: with you becoming a major league baseball player?

981
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I wish I could say one hundred percent,

982
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 4: but it's probably one hundred and thirty percent.

983
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 5: You know, like.

984
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: Literally everything, every in every sense of the word and

985
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: every sense of the meaning. You know, she was the

986
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 4: one who She's the one who introduced me to the

987
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 4: game at a young age. She's the one who taught

988
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 4: me a lot about really everything about the game before

989
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 4: you know. Obviously, you grow up, you start getting high

990
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: school coaches and travel ball coaches, and then you go

991
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 4: through the pro ball ranks and you get pro ball coaches.

992
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 4: But you know, the very early stages of my of

993
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 4: my baseball playing days was all was all started by

994
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 4: my mom.

995
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: That is so amazing because my mom helped me with

996
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: poster board projects, and your mom was throwing VP is

997
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: hitting your grounders?

998
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, No, it gets better too.

999
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: I mean I've told this story before, but I think

1000
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 4: in the postseason in twenty one I talked about this,

1001
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, she was she was about seven or eight

1002
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 4: months pregnant when she was doing that, So, you know,

1003
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: it's kind of it's kind of hard to understand exactly

1004
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: what that means. My wife and I just we just

1005
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: introduced our first child into the world this last offseason,

1006
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: so getting to see my wife go through that at

1007
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: the seven to eight months, you know, period of being pregnant,

1008
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 4: I cannot imagine hitting ground balls and throwing VP. Yeah.

1009
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: So I mean, in every sense of the word, like,

1010
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 4: my mom is legitimately my superhero. So, uh yeah, I

1011
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: can't thank her enough. It's it's cliche to say, but

1012
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: there really are no words to, uh to express my

1013
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: gratitude for what she did for me at such a

1014
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: young age and continues to do for me throughout my life.

1015
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: Christian, when you were talking about your wife there, I

1016
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: was going to say, careful, careful.

1017
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I know, I know, No, I've learned, I've.

1018
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: Learned My wife just had our first in August of

1019
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: last year, and I could not imagine. I could not

1020
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: imagine my wife throwing a baseball now and she had

1021
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: a maybe eight months ago yet alone at the months pregnant.

1022
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: That is such a blessing.

1023
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, it was.

1024
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 5: It was.

1025
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: It was crazy. It was crazy. So yeah, she's a

1026
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 4: rock star. I mean she she grinded through it. She

1027
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: uh you know, it was it was. It was insane

1028
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: and it and it was good VP. I mean it was,

1029
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: you know, top top ten VP I've ever had in

1030
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: my life, you know, and then amazing up their top

1031
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 4: five ground ball, top five ground ball I got in

1032
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: my life as well.

1033
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: So that's remarkable. Now, when did she stop throwing BP

1034
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: to you, Christian, because at some point it must have

1035
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: become dangerous.

1036
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Actually I think she was after that day,

1037
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: to be honest, she was behind the net, she was

1038
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 4: behind an l screen. But I mean I had to

1039
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 4: have been thirteen years old, so I wasn't hitting the ball.

1040
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: I was sitting it.

1041
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 4: Hard obviously for the age of thirteen. But it wasn't

1042
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 4: until probably about high school is when when she really

1043
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: was like, all right, I need to I can't really

1044
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 4: do this anymore, you know.

1045
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 5: So it was probably my high school year.

1046
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 4: Freshman year in high school is when when the when

1047
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 4: she when she allowed me to uh to flip it

1048
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 4: over to to our coaches. It was hard, you know,

1049
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 4: she she still wanted to uh. I wanted to be

1050
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 4: very involved, and she was obviously, but from a physical standpoint,

1051
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: I was like, Mom, you know, it's it's probably best

1052
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: that we uh we get you maybe outside the cage,

1053
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 4: but I don't need any balls ricocheting off the net

1054
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: and hitting you in the leg or the arm or anything,

1055
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 4: you know, tough.

1056
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly exactly.

1057
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 4: It was funny too because she when I used to

1058
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 4: pitch when I was a kid, you know, I used

1059
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 4: to mess around in the backyard and you know, we

1060
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 4: used to play catch. And I actually stopped throwing to

1061
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 4: her a lot earlier because there was a time I

1062
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: threw a fastball that was tracking for her nose, and

1063
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 4: thank goodness, she tipped it with the glove before it

1064
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 4: hit her, because that would have been bad and I

1065
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: probably would have never I probably would have ever lived

1066
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: that one down. So that was probably about eleven, and

1067
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: then I don't know, she wanted to keep hitting me

1068
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 4: ground balls and she kept one to throw me dp

1069
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: and I I'm never going to turn that down, especially

1070
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 4: a nice day with mom at the ball field.

1071
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: That's so special for you. Quickly tell me what was

1072
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: your mom's background that she was able to do this.

1073
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: Was she a really good player when she was growing up?

1074
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1075
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 4: So she actually really didn't play much softball, which is

1076
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 4: crazy to me. My mom was a really really good athlete.

1077
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 4: She came from a very athletic family. Uh, but she

1078
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 4: was a she was a big basketball player and she's

1079
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 4: from New Hampshire, so she was a huge field hockey player.

1080
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: She just caught onto things really quick, you know, like

1081
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 4: throwing a baseball, Like she caught onto that quick. And

1082
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 4: then she read that Ted Williams The Science of Hitting

1083
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 4: book and like kind of you know, kind of read

1084
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: it and just was able to understand it. And then

1085
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: she kind of just showed me what to do. And

1086
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 4: then you know, I kind of let my natural ability

1087
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: take over a little bit. It was kind of crazy

1088
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 4: how it all happened. You know. It's she wasn't like

1089
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 4: some you know, all American softball player or anything. So uh,

1090
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 4: but she was a she was a she's a Hall

1091
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 4: of Fame. Uh, she's a Hall of Fame learner. So

1092
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 4: I will say that she was really good at teaching

1093
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 4: me and making it simple, you know, simplifying thing Christian.

1094
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: Most most moms by their sons the Hardy Boys books

1095
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: or something like that. Your mom got you the Science

1096
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: of hitting? How do you explain that?

1097
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1098
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: Honestly, I got the book when I was really really young,

1099
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: and she said, listen, this is kind of she kind

1100
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 4: of gave me the history I had known who Ted

1101
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 4: Williams was. Obviously, I was a huge baseball fan growing.

1102
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 5: Up as a kid.

1103
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 4: But she, uh, she was the first one that introduced

1104
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: to me like a book, a true book about hitting.

1105
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 5: And I was I was just I remember seeing it.

1106
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 4: I was so hooked, you know, and it was just, uh,

1107
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 4: it's funny because back in the day, like when I

1108
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: was growing up, it was always you know, stepan thin,

1109
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 4: I squished the bug and all that kind of stuff,

1110
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 4: and those.

1111
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 5: Are like the little things that I remember.

1112
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 4: Obviously, hitting has advanced a lot as far as the

1113
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 4: verbage goes and and the new technology and now you

1114
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 4: can take slowmost swings in front of cameras and get different.

1115
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 5: Ideas of what works for you.

1116
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: But I just remember those literally being like my cues

1117
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 4: when I was a kid. It was like step On

1118
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: thin Ice squshed the bug, you know, and it was

1119
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 4: it was just little things that she would only tell me.

1120
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 5: And little did I know that a lot.

1121
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 4: Of the things she was teaching me she would just

1122
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: read from the book and then she would just constantly

1123
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 4: pound into my head, punding into my head, tinding in

1124
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: my head. And you know, I guess, I guess, I

1125
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 4: guess it worked out a little bit.

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00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, they did.

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00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 4: You know, kudos to her.

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00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Christian. When you made it to the big

1129
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: leagues the first time, what was her reaction? And was

1130
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: she at your first game? How did that work?

1131
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1132
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: So I was twenty seventeen. I was with the Giants.

1133
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 4: I was actually in Sacramento, California. Dave Brundage was my manager,

1134
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 4: and because you're going to San Francisco, and I just remember,

1135
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 4: I just remember the first thing that I that I

1136
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 4: said was are you eppingcuse of me? Or I said,

1137
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 4: are you effing with me? And I just remember laughing

1138
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 4: about it because I was like I thought Brundy was

1139
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 4: messing with me.

1140
00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 5: He had a really good sense of humor.

1141
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: And uh.

1142
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 4: The first thing I asked, you guys, mind if I

1143
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 4: go call my mom? And I called her, and I

1144
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 4: must have known where I got the response from, because

1145
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 4: I told my mom. I said, Hey, Mom, remember I

1146
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 4: had that early work today. She's like, yeah, how did

1147
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 4: you go?

1148
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 5: I said, well, I guess.

1149
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it early. I'm going to San Francisco.

1150
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm uh. I just got called up to

1151
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: the big league. And the first thing she said to me,

1152
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 4: as she was kind of half heartedly crying, was are

1153
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: you are you freaking kidding me? And so she didn't

1154
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: even believe me. So I had a great She didn't

1155
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 4: believe me. She I was messing with her. So I and

1156
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 4: that's just kind of a relationship my mom and I have,

1157
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 4: Like we just joke around a lot. We have an

1158
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 4: unparalleled relationship to be honest, and and and for her

1159
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 4: to for her to think that I was joking in

1160
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 4: that situation, I was like, dang, damn. Maybe I do

1161
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 4: joke around my mom a little too much. But obviously

1162
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 4: she could. She could hear the seriousness in my voice and.

1163
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 5: She started crying.

1164
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 4: I Yeah, I kind of broke down too, And it

1165
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 4: was just kind of a it was kind of a

1166
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 4: coming back to like the roots of it all moment

1167
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: for me, you know it. It brought me back to

1168
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 4: the step on Sin I squished the bug. It brought

1169
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 4: me back to the days of you know, playing catch

1170
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 4: with my mom in the backyard while she's like trying

1171
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 4: to catch a bullpen kind of thing, and hitting me

1172
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 4: ground balls and hitting and like supporting me no matter what,

1173
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 4: you know, and and and and and the tough love

1174
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 4: is what you need, you know. Like she was great

1175
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 4: at teaching me in a constructive way without it being

1176
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 4: like detrimental. And I never once felt like I had

1177
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 4: to play sports or had to play baseball. It was

1178
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 4: always an open and free environment. If I wanted to

1179
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 4: play it, then great. And if I didn't want to play,

1180
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 4: She's like, you can do something else.

1181
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 5: It's whatever you want to do.

1182
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 4: And you know, it was a it was a truly

1183
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 4: special moment. Unfortunately, because she was all the way in Florida,

1184
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 4: she actually couldn't make it to my first game. They

1185
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 4: tried to get her out. Actually, Bobby Evans r GM

1186
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 4: at the time wanted he called my agent and said, hey, Tom,

1187
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 4: we're gonna call Christian enough, is there any chance that, like,

1188
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 4: should we let Christian call his mom or should we

1189
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 4: call her to get her out immediately? Pretty much, they

1190
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 4: were going to fly her out the first flight to

1191
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: make sure she made the game, and Tom was like,

1192
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 4: you know, they have a really close relationship, so I

1193
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 4: think it's smart for Christian to make the call.

1194
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 5: So she didn't end up coming to my first game.

1195
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 4: She couldn't make it, but she was there for the

1196
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 4: second one. But I always joke with her. I said,

1197
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 4: I made sure not to get a first hit or

1198
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 4: my first hit the night she wasn't there, so I

1199
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 4: took it over for the first night, moved the guy over.

1200
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 4: We won one nothing. I was happy with that. But

1201
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 4: the next day I had my That's when I got

1202
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 4: my first hit. So I just waited for my mom.

1203
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: There's really not many words that I could use to

1204
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 4: describe my mom because you know, there's there's no adjective

1205
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 4: that can describe her in enough, in enough light, you know,

1206
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 4: enough put to flight. So you know, I was I

1207
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: was blessed to have probably the greatest mom in the

1208
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: place of the airth so and I cherished that every

1209
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 4: day that is so cool.

1210
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: Christian, thank you so much for joining us. Enjoyed Mother's

1211
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: Day with your mom, and we'll see you in the

1212
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: big leagues.

1213
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you got it. Guys, thanks for having me.

1214
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 5: Good talking.

1215
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: To Casey and Christian and their moms. Thank you for

1216
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: being a part of today's show.

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01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: My mom, your nana was a really good athlete. I

1218
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: played catch with her more than once. Now, she didn't

1219
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: hit groundballs to me when she was eight months pregnant,

1220
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: and she didn't play in the women's professional baseball league.

1221
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: But Nana could do some things athletically. And you know,

1222
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: Pap was a really good baseball player. Pap was a

1223
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: really good athlete. So once my mother had just heard

1224
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: enough from my dad, so in their mid fifties, my

1225
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: mother says, I could beat you in a race right now,

1226
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: and you know it. And they went across to the

1227
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: court right out in front of our house, and they

1228
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: ran across the court and my mother, at age fifty five,

1229
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: dusted my father and she looked at him, and she

1230
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: loved my dad more than anything in the world. She said,

1231
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to hear what a great athlete

1232
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: you are anymore. And they laughed. They laughed so loud,

1233
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: it was beautiful. And that is my mother. That is

1234
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: your Lenna, happy mother.

1235
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: Say and thank you for listening, and it's always thank

1236
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: you for being part of our family.