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Speaker 2: because I've got my guy, Aaron Torres with me host

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Speaker 2: here eleven to two am. When we talk about Saturday

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Speaker 2: night into Sunday morning, the Aaron Touris podcast and all

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Speaker 2: sorts of fun and excitement when we talk about college buckets,

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Speaker 2: college football, and this morning world at large at Aaron

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Speaker 2: Underscore Tours. Aaron, it's been a minute. The first time

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Speaker 2: in a long time.

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Speaker 3: So welcome in.

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Speaker 4: Who do we have in this time slot? Adam Kaplin

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Speaker 4: Am I making that up?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean nine to eleven is kind of changes

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Speaker 3: Sure, this would be uh countdown to kick off?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, the guys that just finished, Bill and Jeff

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Speaker 2: and Brian. Hopefully they go and hit Vegas pretty hard today.

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Speaker 2: But the you know when then we switch up the

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Speaker 2: time slots and whatever. But normally in the morning for

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Speaker 2: football season, it was me and Greg co South Coast,

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Speaker 2: it was right and then you know, before that an

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Speaker 3: So here we are.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you need me today, tomorrow, next Sunday, whatever

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Speaker 3: I am privileged to be here.

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Speaker 4: And I think, like you said, it's just it's a

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Speaker 4: super fun time of year, the wal to wall basketball,

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Speaker 4: as you say, I know, you know, pitchers and catchers

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Speaker 4: So it's a it's a really fun time on the

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Speaker 3: And excited to be with you here for the next

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Speaker 3: few hours. Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: Right the way the calendar has worked, we get usually

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Speaker 2: say that not yet, And we turned our heads to

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Speaker 2: because of the Olympics, that got pushed, so college buckets.

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Speaker 3: Kind of stayed latent.

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Speaker 2: Not I mean, obviously, if you're a huge fan, you've

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Speaker 3: You're watching flag football yesterday. It's you know, I had

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Speaker 2: we've been a top four seed consistently and coming into play. Now,

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Speaker 2: No, you mentioned Texas, And that goes into one of

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Speaker 2: always looking for Cinderella somewhere. Sure, but a team that

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Speaker 2: had a mediocre year? Is that the way we're moving

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Speaker 4: Not all eleven seeds are built the same. Yeah, of course, Texas,

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Speaker 4: you know this year's wonderful Cinderella coming off last year's

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Speaker 4: the SEC The Arkansas Razorbacks last year were last year

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Speaker 2: after we get off the air. Now, it doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: we haven't had some exciting near misses. Right the shot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was thirty seconds ahead of Jason Martin,

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Speaker 4: Well no, And it was crazy because you know, I said,

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Speaker 4: play by play here obviously FCC, if you're listening, we

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Speaker 4: Oh, It was more like an oh, and then he's like, well,

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Speaker 4: it weird for the Arkansas High Point game. But hey,

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Speaker 3: He's talking about creating a different dynamic.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing, right of us being a nationwide network,

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Speaker 2: the fun and chaos at times. Right, certainly in this process, Nebraska,

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Speaker 3: He made it.

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Speaker 4: and rattle and then back out seventy four to seventy two,

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Speaker 4: Nebraska over Vanderbilt. For those unawares, this was late last

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Speaker 4: moments of the tournament thus far, because you know, chalk

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Speaker 4: Chuck wins. Right, we do our bracket challenge, and you

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Speaker 4: wanted to be the smartest guy or gall in the room.

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately sometimes you just need to push those ones, twos, threes,

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Speaker 2: It's like I used to administrate the fantasy games at

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Speaker 2: But that's just it, right, it became the latest iteration.

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Speaker 3: We talk about the.

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Speaker 9: You build a bond, you build a connection. We're a family,

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Speaker 9: That's what this thing's about.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, I mean, and we've seen that

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Speaker 4: did play for Kevin Willard last year, and he said

440
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Speaker 4: he still texts Kevin Willard to this day like good luck,

441
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 4: saw your draw, blah blah blah, this and that, because

442
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 4: I had said, you know, Kevin Willard actually would make

443
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 4: comments about you know, I hate Derek, but I love Derek,

444
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 4: And it was like a very you know, you know,

445
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 4: love hate relationship of I coach him tough, but he's

446
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 4: tough on me, and he takes my crap and I

447
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 4: take his crap. So to that point here on Fox

448
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 4: Sports Radio, we literally had an example of a former

449
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 4: player saying, yeah, essentially, I'm paraphrasing what Derek Queen said,

450
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 4: but I'd run through a wall for him.

451
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 3: I still love him. I do anything for him.

452
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Speaker 4: And then, you know, us living in LA you probably

453
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 4: hear this same stuff I do about mccronin tough, tough

454
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 4: in public, but behind the scenes, the guys that make

455
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 4: it through love him. As a Yukon a lum, I

456
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 4: can tell you it's the same about Dan Hurley Yukon

457
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 4: weirdly has some of the best retention in college basketball.

458
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 4: Alx Caraban's a fifth year senior. Solo balls a fifth

459
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 4: year senior, so are a thirty year junior, I should say,

460
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Speaker 4: but I just bring it up because if those guys,

461
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Speaker 4: if they were always in private the way they are

462
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Speaker 4: in public, I don't know that you'd make it or

463
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Speaker 4: even would want to make it five years with Dan

464
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Speaker 4: Hurley like an Alice Caraban. So it's an important point

465
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Speaker 4: that the public persona isn't necessarily what you see.

466
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Speaker 8: Bid this.

467
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Speaker 2: I need that Yukon run because Carabine has come on

468
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: the show almost every year really that he's been on

469
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 2: so free so we can we can get another visit

470
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Speaker 2: from him. He's the best these life's going well. But

471
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Speaker 2: you know I mentioned McK cronin, right, So let's let's

472
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Speaker 2: grab McK cronin, who's also been in the crossfire. We

473
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: famously had threw a player out. Smith and I were

474
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: on air his own player. He ejected his own play.

475
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: We were on different sides of that argument. Smith, you know,

476
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: was wondering if he's gonna have to walk the plank.

477
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, if this season ends badly, then yes, yes,

478
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: he might accept that buyout very very pro hidden.

479
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 3: Right, we're in.

480
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty ish, twenty five million ish and it

481
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: doesn't go down very like the gradient. He's not a

482
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: very steep slope at all. So you make those decisions

483
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: in the they come back. They beat Illinois on that Saturday,

484
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 2: and now here they are what are they?

485
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: Seven and two?

486
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: I think since that went down playing some really good basketball,

487
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: your point guard as one of the highest assist to

488
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: turnover ratios that we've seen in recent memory. But Mick

489
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: Cronin I had his thoughts as well. As this tournament

490
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: rolls on over the years, it's no secret that you

491
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Speaker 2: and coach Charlie have kind of caught heat from the

492
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Speaker 2: media about the kind of sideline and talking about.

493
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Speaker 3: Sideline to be working working.

494
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Speaker 8: Have you give me I haven't. So that's why you're

495
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 8: only got to pay attention to nobody else.

496
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Speaker 3: Even comes national media. National media.

497
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Speaker 8: I mean, I die respect you come to the game,

498
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 8: so I respect you. You know, at least you're there.

499
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 8: I mean people that aren't there.

500
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Speaker 3: I know you don't care about it, but do you

501
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: think it's it's fair that.

502
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Speaker 10: You have ridiculous everybody needs to get a life, bro.

503
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 10: Get a life, man. Come on, man, get a life bro.

504
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 8: You want to win big.

505
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Speaker 10: You think Coach Hurley's not supposed to be intense, but

506
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 10: you want to win. Come on, man, we're not We're

507
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 10: not coaching little league buddy. Everybody doesn't get in that bad,

508
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 10: you know, come on, man, paying us a lot of

509
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 10: money to win games.

510
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 3: I think it's fair.

511
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: It's that little league bro might want to run that

512
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: one up, right, you know, just have that as your

513
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: ring tone as you're rolling through. Uh, it's just that

514
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: that divide though, right is and and Nick Cronin leads

515
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: leans into the villain to.

516
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: I think it does right.

517
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: I think I think there's part character there. But then

518
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: every once in a while it's like, all right, have

519
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: we have we gone over?

520
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: Right?

521
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 2: Like now you're bringing your w W E stick and

522
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: you're now you're believing your hype, so you've gone over

523
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: to the other side. Like so, I think that it's

524
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: the fine line that you're walking through where the character

525
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: becomes your your actual persona. And like at any level

526
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: of sports, your your coach needs to be animated at

527
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: times can't do it one hundred.

528
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Speaker 3: Percent of the time.

529
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Speaker 2: It's a great question, but you need like because it's

530
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: like even here, right, we we talk for our through

531
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Speaker 2: topics and sometimes like I can't stay at a yelling

532
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: volume because it's everything right, it's but it's a disbelief,

533
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: Like I'm not believing anything you say if you're screaming

534
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: at me the whole time, because you can't possibly care

535
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 2: about every topic with every fiber of your being. And

536
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: I love sports, sure, but there are some topics that

537
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: are like, all right, this is a big enough story.

538
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: We need to talk about it, but you need to

539
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: take a serious tone with right, there are very serious

540
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: things that passed through these these hallways, even though we're

541
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: playing in as so many have said, the toy isle

542
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: of this whole news information world. But when you get

543
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: down to it, it's like, if I'm screaming at you

544
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: the whole time, it's not gonna work.

545
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: Like your parents agreed, Like.

546
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: My folks, like my dad was, they didn't really get

547
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: loud on us.

548
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: If he got quiet, you knew you were shing. Of course. Yeah.

549
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 2: With my mom she was out of ten well, like

550
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: so like you knew she was coming. You could track

551
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: the voice to recognize how much time you had after

552
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: you did something wrong before you know, I was gonna hit.

553
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 4: The fan and I'll tell you a funny story about that.

554
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: So after.

555
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: It must have been the Big East Tournament lost. No, no, no,

556
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 4: it was the Marquet so Yukon on the final day

557
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 4: of the regular season lost to Marquette, which was one

558
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: of the worst teams in the Big East, and going

559
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 4: into the Big East Tournament. You know, the media availability

560
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: and they're asking the players about what was coach Turley

561
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 4: like after the game, and they said, you know, the

562
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 4: whole week he was I think the word they used

563
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 4: was to press Dan Hurley or mellow Dan Hurley.

564
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: And he walked in and they.

565
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: Were ready to get yelled and screamed at, and instead

566
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 4: he just kind of did the you know, I have

567
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: failed you. I'm not doing my job. I need to

568
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 4: be better. I must be doing something wrong to not

569
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: be able to get it out of you. And that

570
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: was the player's wake up of like we would have

571
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: rather been yelled at than got in the I'm doing

572
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 4: something wrong. And so it's kind of to play on

573
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: that even these coaches are doing the same thing that

574
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: your mom and dad used to do, and my mom

575
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: and dad used to do as well field.

576
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Speaker 2: I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. Yeah, or they put

577
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: it on themselves. I'm certainly guilty of this with my kids. Like,

578
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: there'd just be a moment I'm like, obviously I did

579
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: not teach you, right.

580
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 4: Imagine being kid like when he pulls that that crap,

581
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 4: like I must have failed you, and he's just walking

582
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: around this hand, you know, all pacing back and forth.

583
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Speaker 1: Let's just be me.

584
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, must must not have done my job. Yeah, I

585
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: can't even imagine.

586
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: But I mean, think about that energy in that room,

587
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: in that moment, because everybody's having the flashback to the

588
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: play they screwed up, sure where they think it's the

589
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: A list one something I actually used to do with

590
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: my daughter, right she's getting ready to go play some

591
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: college soccer in the fall and whatever. But we always

592
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 2: had had a rule of coming out of a game.

593
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: I didn't coach her squad. I wasn't gonna pretend that

594
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: I was Ted Lasso and go in and start doing

595
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: those things. But you see what you see, and like

596
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: we watched enough, you know, enough to where maybe you're

597
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: a little loud every now and again. But the post

598
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: game was always the same thing. You get three things

599
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: you saw. I get three things I saw, and that's

600
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: the end of talking about that game. Sure, unless something's

601
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: really bothering you about the flow, about something that really

602
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: ticked you off. And it worked really well because it

603
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: was about a five minute conversation. It's like, well, there

604
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: was this play in the first half. This is what

605
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: I thought I saw, and it ended up being this,

606
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: And I would throw one out and he's like, well,

607
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: what happened on this and she would have like a

608
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: photographic memory it was really good, like well I remember

609
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: the ball, but like that's like trying to process things. Sure,

610
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: and so I imagine in that moment of Herley and

611
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: that quiet, everybody's doing their three list of college Are

612
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: we seeing the same thing or does he have something

613
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: that's more egregious in his mind than what I thought happened? Right,

614
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: So it creates this whole other tension and focus, which

615
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: is part of the coaching, right know when to pull

616
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: the strings. And that's been one of the thematic things

617
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: here because we've got all this change in college sports,

618
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: which we'll get into more in the second hour as

619
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: to whether Cinderella is on life support or if she's

620
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: finally a non factor in any of this, and someone

621
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: else has moved into the neighborhood in cert Princess B.

622
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: But when we look at it this week, it's been

623
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Speaker 2: for me just a masterclass in just the coaching at

624
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: the microphone or watching on the sideline and in game

625
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: adjustments and making sure the metering of the the energy

626
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: and temperament doesn't go over the top. Right, tom Izzo

627
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: pulling his guys over, Hey, you're chirping too much. Sure,

628
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: snapping him back into the moment. Not that they were

629
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: ever really in trouble in the game, but it's the

630
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: you don't know how that carries forward. And then these

631
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: postgame comments just kind of talking about the job. It's

632
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: almost like they're doing like a hard knocks while we're

633
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: still in the season.

634
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: Sure, now that's a push pull. And now it's been

635
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: an interesting week for the coaches, to say the least.

636
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: And I don't think it's gonna get any calmer when

637
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: Hurley and Cronin take the same sideline here later this evening.

638
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: That is one that is really stands out. Alright, he

639
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: got two marquee games on the day. That clearly is one.

640
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: And then we look at the Kansas game a little

641
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: bit later against Saint John's. Full disclosure, I took Saint

642
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: John's pretty deep in my bracketology. That was the only

643
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: non shock that I got onto and perhaps just looking

644
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: for the cool suits and whatever later in later rounds.

645
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: But plenty of time to talk about the x's and

646
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: o's and the games as we go at Aaron underscore

647
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: Torres is where you find and find me over at

648
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: Swollen Dome. Check out Aaron's work and this podcast and

649
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: everything he's got cooking, and of course hear him here

650
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: Saturday nights with Jason Martin here on Fox Sports Radio

651
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: and all across the network, just kind of picking his spots.

652
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: I'll be in with you.

653
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: And then Friday we get to bookend this week as

654
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: we celebrate some more tournament action. But now we go

655
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: to a man who's also got his extra irons in

656
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Speaker 2: the fire. It's our guy, Isaac Lohencron coming off at

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Speaker 2: resounding three to one win by Angel City. Yeah last night,

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Speaker 2: and now he's ready and fully immersed in the games

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Speaker 2: of today.

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Speaker 5: What's going on, Buddy, fully immersed fully caffeinated the whole deal,

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Speaker 5: Mike and Aaron. Right now, we've got two seed per

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Speaker 5: Due and seven seed Miami of Florida battling for a

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Speaker 5: trip to the Sweet sixteen, and with just over eight

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Speaker 5: minutes romaining in the first half, Perdue is up twenty

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Speaker 5: five to twenty two. Amazing finish in round two on

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Speaker 5: Saturday night, four seed Nebraska and five seed Vanderbilt seventy

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Speaker 5: four to seventy two. Here's how it finished. They were

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Speaker 5: tied at seventy two in the dying seconds. As we

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Speaker 5: tune in the veterable Kent Pavelka and Jeff Smith on

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Speaker 5: Station k l I n.

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Speaker 10: Breepound, Nebraska, Hushcars, iim at Nigers on their home Wow

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Speaker 10: first time like twice twice turned frager?

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Speaker 11: Why up.

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Speaker 3: Two point two? Ilo?

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Speaker 2: You and I both thought of two Pittsburgh legends when

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Speaker 2: we were going through this this audio with Pavelka. You

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Speaker 2: thought of Mike Lang scratch my back with the hacks off,

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Speaker 2: get in the.

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Speaker 5: Fast lane, Grandma, the Bengo Games running a roll.

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Speaker 12: Yes, the legendary voice of the Pittsburgh Penguins that had

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Speaker 12: also channeled Myron Cope, the longtime color analyst for the

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Speaker 12: Pittsburgh Steelers and the guy who created the Terrible Tale

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Speaker 12: So a great finish Nebraska headed of the Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Finally, we have a couple of items in Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 5: both involving the Philadelphia Phillies. Today, the Phillies agreed to

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Speaker 5: a new six year deal with twenty twenty four All

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Speaker 5: Star pitcher Christopher Sanchez through twenty thirty two. But the

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Speaker 5: Phillies also experienced a medical scare today. Phillies pictriock Daniel

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Speaker 5: Robert is stable after experiencing a cardiac event while throwing

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Speaker 5: a bullpen session today at Clearwater, Florida. Robert, who suffered

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Speaker 5: a separate cardiac event last October Today, according to a

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Speaker 5: description by the Philadelphia Inquirer, quote, staggered off the mound,

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Speaker 5: appeared to clutch his chest and moan or grunt. He

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Speaker 5: fell to one knee and stayed there for a few seconds.

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Speaker 5: He tried to rise, but his legs gave out and

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Speaker 5: he collapsed onto his bed. Robert did not appear to

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Speaker 5: lose consciousness. He was soon able to walk under his

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Speaker 5: own power off the field and was then transported to

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Speaker 5: a local hospital for evaluation. So a medical scare in

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Speaker 5: Phillies training camp today. But Daniel Robert, we're happy to

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Speaker 5: report is stable.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, good thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Ilo at Isaac Low and Coron where you find

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Speaker 2: him catch some of the highlights of his call doing

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Speaker 2: at Aaron Underscore. Torres is where you find Aaron on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Find me over at Swollen Dome. As we continue, well,

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Speaker 2: we have black Monday when it comes to the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. We don't have necessarily a quote unquote holiday

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Speaker 2: when it comes to college buckets. But one coach getting

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Speaker 2: a lot of heat after another early exit and late

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Speaker 2: game collapse. We'll talk all about it next. Here on

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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres with you as we get ready for a

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Speaker 2: full day of action in the NCAA Tournament. One team

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Speaker 2: that's already long gone home and walking along the beaches

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Speaker 2: and trying to figure out where it all went wrong.

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Speaker 2: The North Carolina tar Heels and Hubert Davis nineteen point

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Speaker 2: lead that evaporates in the second half and they go home,

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Speaker 2: leaving to a lot of consternation and certainly the speculation

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Speaker 2: about Hubert Davis's job. We've seen so big collapses in

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Speaker 2: the past by his squads, and we talked buyouts. Look,

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Speaker 2: the math actually does matter in a lot of these

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Speaker 2: things as to how quickly collectives in universities and all

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Speaker 2: the button pushers will act. Yourbert Davis's contract is not

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Speaker 2: prohibitive at all a school of such resources. So the

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Speaker 2: question is should he will he?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: How does this play out for the Guitar Heels?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: So you guys were obviously on air with Jason on

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Speaker 4: a Thursday, I'm sure when a lot of this unfolded

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Speaker 4: you know, first of all, the press conference was bad.

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Speaker 3: You talk about a bad press conference.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But what I would say is this is, you know,

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Speaker 4: obviously I love college hoops, and it's an interesting thing

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Speaker 4: where if you just look at the win loss record,

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Speaker 4: you could sit there and say this is preposterous, this

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Speaker 4: is crazy whatever. One It isn't a one game thing.

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Speaker 4: Obviously last year probably shouldn't have been in the tournament.

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Speaker 4: They were the last team to get in. They missed

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Speaker 4: the tournament in twenty twenty three. And even that final

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Speaker 4: four run, they were a nine seed in eight seed,

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Speaker 4: nine seed, like they weren't some juggernaut all season long. Okay,

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Speaker 4: but what I was saying, what I said on my

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Speaker 4: show last night, it was almost the perfect storm, right,

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Speaker 4: because for people who don't know a lot about North Carolina,

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Speaker 4: their best player is hurt, whatever, And if you just

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Speaker 4: lose that game because of follow trouble or because of whatever,

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Speaker 4: that's different than blowing a nineteen point second half lead

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Speaker 4: in a game where and Mike you were probably on

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Speaker 4: air when all this happened. You can't get the ball

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Speaker 4: inbounds the final play of the game. You do have

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Speaker 4: a timeout, you draw something up, you essentially, do not

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Speaker 4: get a shot at the basket in overtime. Your guy

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Speaker 4: doesn't know that he's got to hit the when he

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Speaker 4: tries to miss a free throw intentionally, he's got to

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Speaker 4: hit the rim. So it was like it was a

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Speaker 4: lot of bad coaching on display in a moment where

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Speaker 4: everything that could go wrong did on a national stage

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Speaker 4: where everybody was watching. It became the biggest story of

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Speaker 4: the tournament. And again, I think if they had just

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Speaker 4: won that game and lost to Illinois yesterday that would

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Speaker 4: have been their next opponent, you could have seen it

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Speaker 4: as a successful season. I think there's even a way

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Speaker 4: to lose this game and he keeps his job, but

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Speaker 4: to lose the game in the exact manner that he did.

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Speaker 4: I'm still a little surprised that North Carolina is considering this,

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Speaker 4: But to your point, you look at the contract, it's

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Speaker 4: not as prohibitive. And I think the bigger thing is,

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Speaker 4: in this nil world, you're asking people to donate a

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Speaker 4: lot of money to support this team, and I don't

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Speaker 4: know what he does. How he goes to those same

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Speaker 4: people and explains to them why his money their money

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Speaker 4: will be better used next year than it was this year.

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Speaker 4: So it feels inevitable, and I think changes coming here

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Speaker 4: in the next probably forty eight hours.

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Speaker 3: At Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at Caleb Wilson was not available for this,

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Speaker 2: one big time player for them, one.

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Speaker 3: Of the only big men they really have.

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Speaker 2: On the roster. We'll lament just free throw shooting in

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Speaker 2: general in this tournament because plenty of instances of like,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you just shot seventy, you would have

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Speaker 2: won this game, or at least changed the dynamics of it.

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Speaker 2: But from the report that I was reading, only five

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Speaker 2: point three million dollars. Yeah, te and you talk about

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Speaker 2: getting back into people's wallets. That's part of it. The

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Speaker 2: other part is if I'm a recruit like North Carolina's brand, right,

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Speaker 2: the jump man.

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Speaker 3: Still has so much weight.

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Speaker 2: But I could go get paid, oh yeah, anywhere, I

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Speaker 2: can go get minutes anywhere. If I'm coming to you,

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Speaker 2: I still want to win, right at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, players still win. Winning still rules everything, because

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Speaker 2: if you're going to the league, you're going to the league. Right,

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Speaker 2: There's there's no your This is just a by the way,

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Speaker 2: the rules are that I've got to come for at

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Speaker 2: least a year.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So Why would I choose you if I'm gonna end

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Speaker 2: each of my seasons like this. The nineteen point lead

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Speaker 2: loss is just one in a pattern of day team.

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Speaker 3: That's the keyword pattern.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I mean even that National Championship game. I don't remember

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Speaker 4: the exit they played Kansas in twenty two. They blew

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Speaker 4: a huge halftime lead. There was a big Monday game.

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Speaker 4: Jason Smith might have made you watch it against your will,

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Speaker 4: but Carolina was up like thirty, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: you look up and it's like a eight point game

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Speaker 4: with six minutes to go.

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Speaker 3: And they ended up winning that game.

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Speaker 4: But it was a pattern, and for that collapse to

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Speaker 4: happen on that stage, it was just it was the

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Speaker 4: worst possible thing that could happen to him at the

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Speaker 4: worst possible time. I think, quite literally, any other circumstance,

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Speaker 4: even if they lose, he's probably back. That was the

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Speaker 4: one circumstance that could have happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one thing to go get blown out altogether

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Speaker 2: and just say, hey, we're not ready, and you have

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Speaker 2: the ready made excuse of your best guy's not there. Yep,

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Speaker 2: all right, because you'd lost without him, you know, coming

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Speaker 2: into the tournament and everything else.

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Speaker 3: And if you lose to Illinois, Illinois is one of.

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Speaker 2: Your top twelve fifteen teams you decide where they are

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Speaker 2: in that pantheon, but one of the better, more complet

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Speaker 2: fleet squads on the grid. Everybody moves on. As we

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Speaker 2: continue here, it's Fox Sports Radio. We've got Miami and

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Speaker 2: Purdue four point game coming up inside the final two

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Speaker 2: minutes here of the first half. Always we always just

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Speaker 2: want it close late, or that's the general mantra to

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Speaker 2: any of it. Rooting for sides. Yeah, we have our schools,

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Speaker 2: but overall we just want games to be of consequence late.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll talk about some of the traditions

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Speaker 2: of March madness. But certainly Cinderella has been missing here.

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Speaker 2: Do we just manufacture one. We'll talk about it as

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Speaker 2: we continue. It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 3: He's Aaron. I'm like you're.

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Speaker 1: Listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, greetings, welcome in our two of the program. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to our team Ilo and Shay and Chris making a

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Speaker 2: sound so pretty this morning. As we come to you

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios, Mike Garment Aaron Torres

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Speaker 2: with you as we're readying for a full SLATEAA basketball

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Speaker 2: two point game at first half, hotly contested forty thirty eight,

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Speaker 2: Miami with the two point lead, the seven seed, anything

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Speaker 2: that doesn't have a one or two, and you know,

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Speaker 2: folks get excitable anymore.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Ano, another plucky underdog. You have Texas and you

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Speaker 4: got that little plucky underdog Miami who just paid seven

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Speaker 4: million dollars to poach another team's quarterbacks. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that number is actually accurate, but

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Speaker 4: it's what's reported. But yeah, those feel good, plucky underdogs,

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Speaker 4: and we'll see if Miami can, of course hold on.

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Speaker 4: There's still a lot of basketball to be played. Left,

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Speaker 4: by the way, yeah, you know what, I don't want

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Speaker 4: to put you on the spot.

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00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: No, by all means, that's what we're here for, uncomfortable

873
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: moments or crazy moments.

874
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: Let's go. We're getting a lot of Nate Pearlson.

875
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: So no, he seems to be very favored by the

876
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: news and sports.

877
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, this is not me pocket watching, and I'm

878
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: not jealous that I'm not in it. It's just I

879
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: and and by the way, there's context behind it. Ernie

880
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: Johnson is usually on the desk. He felt like he

881
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: couldn't he wasn't dedicated enough. So he'll come back, I

882
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 4: believe for the final four. And as far as the

883
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: other rotating cast, you know, Kenny Smith mysteriously has been

884
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 4: out of the studio since North Carolina lost. I don't

885
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: know if that's a coincidence or not.

886
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: He had a board of trustees. That's what I actually

887
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: think it is.

888
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: I think I think what was the Bear Bryant quote,

889
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: Mama called me home or something like that. I think

890
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 4: Mama called Kenny Smith back to Chapel Hill because it's

891
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: going to be an active weekend there. But I just

892
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: bring it up because there's no one else in the bullpen.

893
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 4: I mean, Nate Burrows, I mean, and I see people nodding.

894
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 4: I don't want to put anybody else on the spot.

895
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: This is my take. I'm not putting I'm not putting

896
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: it on anybody else's shoulders to agree with me. But uh,

897
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: it's a lot of Nate Berlson. I don't know if

898
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: somebody else has anything to weigh in on that, but

899
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: and I think there is somebody that does want to Waylo.

900
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: You got something you want to add to Okay?

901
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 5: I saw just having an allergic reaction. I'm sorry, No,

902
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 5: he you know, you make a legitimate point because, for example,

903
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: there's a guy Aaron you know, I'm John Rothstein us

904
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: as a sideline of Porter Great. But for example, he's

905
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 5: a college basketball guy.

906
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my exact thought was, I know, he's

907
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 4: needed on the sideline in Saint Louis. Get him on

908
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: the desk. The dude loves college basketball, even in a

909
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: way that I don't know that I do.

910
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, get him on the desk.

911
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 10: Uh.

912
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: And it's just the Nate Burleson thing I think is

913
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: especially weird because it's like, I mean, imagine if you know,

914
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 4: let's just go, let's just extrapolate this out.

915
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: Oh hang on, this just in Nate Burleson, the new

916
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: host of Jeopardy.

917
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so how about that.

918
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: No, Like, imagine if just you turn on uh, CBS Sunday,

919
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: a CBS NFL Sunday and Charles Barkley was in the

920
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: host seat, like you'd be like, this doesn't even make sense,

921
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 4: Like so whatever, I swear I'm not pocket watching and

922
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 4: jealous that he has this. I'm just saying it is

923
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 4: very weird. You know, my fellow Yukon Husky Renee Montgomery.

924
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 4: I'm glad she's getting shine again. I think that's a

925
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: byproduct of Kenny Smith not being there. But to ILO's point,

926
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 4: there are some very talented people in that building who

927
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 4: cover college basketball three hundred and sixty five days a year,

928
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: probably better suited for that.

929
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: And that's the thing though, But you're you're trying to

930
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: test limits to a degree. You're looking at contracts and

931
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know about you, maybe maybe you've had

932
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 2: some deals where it's like you've got some nebulous clauses

933
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: of how much you can pay, you have to do

934
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: above before you end up with extra money in your

935
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 2: in your pocket. Yeah right, agent's you know these backscratching

936
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: I don't know who Burlson's agent is and what other

937
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: clients he may have or or she may have on

938
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: the roster that need some run because think about it

939
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: from an entertainment perspective, and I love our heart media brethren,

940
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: But Mario Lopez, I know, access Hollywood's going away, But

941
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: Mario Lopez and Ryan Seacrest, they have a lot of jobs.

942
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: I mean, like I go check into a hotel and

943
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: I turn on the TV and Mario's right, I'm on

944
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: an airplane and they're selling me something else, right, and

945
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: so I like, it's it's all over the place.

946
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: Why does this guy have nineteen movies opening this year?

947
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: But I in uh the other day, I'm in the

948
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: other room, probably watching basketball, and I hear my wife

949
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: like no, no, and I'm like, is she talking to me?

950
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 4: She was listening to Ryan seacrest show, and it was

951
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 4: like Ryan's roses of like.

952
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they called the guy and he did this,

953
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: and she's freaking out.

954
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: This guy rides Seacrest is everywhere.

955
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but by the way, like there there's a bit

956
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 2: right again, not to tell people how to program their show.

957
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: I've heard it once or twice. Driving around gets wrong.

958
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: I have to one hundred levels.

959
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 4: She uh uh, this is such a great coming unless

960
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: it's just.

961
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: An actual comedy bit and everybody's in on the bit

962
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: and they're all great actors on the.

963
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: Red I was gonna say wrong. I told her.

964
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 4: I was like, if you you know she and she

965
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 4: does the whole weff, you have nothing to hide, why

966
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: would you care? And I'm like, you ever try that

967
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: on me? I will say on air, Ryan, this is

968
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: a two I live in California. This is a two

969
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: party consent state, and I am suing you. I will

970
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: say that on air to Ryan Seacrest, and I think

971
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: it's a little predatory and weird as well as a bit.

972
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: But I would also just be like, I am suing you.

973
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: This is a two party, two party state situation.

974
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 2: But ostensibly they've they blindsided you, right, because they get

975
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: you to come on with the idea of your getting

976
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: some kind of free whatever. So you've consented. Yeah, I

977
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: guess you just didn't consent to that.

978
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

979
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: The other funny part is, you know, we have a

980
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 4: little a little puppy, a little little little girl. Her

981
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 4: name's Charlie. Girl Charlie. She's not a little puppy anymore.

982
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: She's like three, three and a half. But I did

983
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 4: tell my wife. I was like, if if this guy

984
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 4: ever calls me, besides, that would be my initial reaction,

985
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 4: but I'm also gonna be like, yeah, you know, I

986
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 4: want to I want to send some flowers to the

987
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 4: most beautiful girl, the love of my life, Charlie.

988
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 3: And she's like, you better not do that.

989
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, well, don't call me up at

990
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: eight o'clock in the morning and we won't.

991
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: Have that issue.

992
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, a lot of Nate Burlson, a lot

993
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: of Nate Borlson.

994
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: To get back to the original point, Yeah, it's you know,

995
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 2: always questioned like what the you know, who's paying things

996
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: ahead or behind or whatever? And how much shine because

997
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: I mean he's shown up on CBS Sunday morning, right

998
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: new show, well in CBS this morning during the week.

999
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 4: I'll just say, last thing, you use the word entertainment.

1000
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 4: Looking at the desk that they have right now, it's

1001
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: like they're actively they're actively like trying to push the

1002
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 4: limit of will people turn this off during the half

1003
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: because there's not a lot of people whose college basketball

1004
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 4: opinions I want to hear on that desk.

1005
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: Let me put it down there.

1006
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: You have it at Aaron unders So that's why you

1007
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: listen to Harmony. Trust find find me over at Swollen Dome.

1008
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: Tell me what I don't know as well. But yeah,

1009
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: we're look at a sport that and we set it

1010
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: up in our one like this is you are immersed

1011
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: fully in the sporting world at large, but certainly college

1012
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: basketball college football has been where you've carved a niche

1013
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: Check out the podcast, check out everything Aaron's got got

1014
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: Cooking online, go to guy. That is all across the

1015
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: network at all across stations throughout these these big events.

1016
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 3: But it is the kind of thing that, look, I

1017
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 3: watch a lot of basketball.

1018
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: We were talking about it, right, I'm in these studios

1019
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: Jason and I during the week for four hours plus

1020
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: an extra hour in the back, and we watch a

1021
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: lot of games. Do we get to really focus and

1022
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: hyper focus on the exploits. No, but you see enough

1023
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: to where repetition of WHI this squad is deep, this

1024
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: squad is good. I love that coach Like I come

1025
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: back to the coach like I grew up in the

1026
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: Big Ten of Lou Henson and Gene Katie and Bobby

1027
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: Knight and tom Izzo. Tom Izzo still going all these years,

1028
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: but where coaches like ruled with an iron fist and

1029
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: and like their presence on the sideline.

1030
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: Was just you were awestruck.

1031
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: I sat in there as Northwestern sections, everybody's yelling idiotic

1032
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: chants or whatever. I'm just watching the coach, sure, and

1033
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: watching them pays back and forth. Not that we didn't

1034
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 2: have some exchanges along the way with some of those coaches,

1035
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: but but just to that point. As we get into

1036
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: the tournament, a lot of the heavyweights and the coaches

1037
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: are on in full display, but the larger narrative around

1038
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: it is that Cinderella died.

1039
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 3: Sure right.

1040
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: You know you've used the word plucky, one of my

1041
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: favorite terms in the English language to describe Texas, to

1042
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: describe much of Miami. Yeah, Miami. Hey, you know you're

1043
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: you're playing in the national title games? Like, hey, what

1044
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: were classes like this week? I don't know, I haven't

1045
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: gone to class in two years? By Carson Beck. And

1046
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: you know, I was calling out Sebastian the Ibis the

1047
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: other day because he looked bored oh in their first

1048
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: round game.

1049
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: Like, why's he just standing there doing nothing? Sure, entertainment clown.

1050
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: But he's watching the halftime show. That's the problem. I

1051
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 4: can't play him.

1052
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: I was bored too.

1053
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: But we're talking about Cinderella and whether the new age

1054
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: of college buckets creates that divide to where quote real

1055
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: Cinderella has become fewer and far between.

1056
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: If they exist at all, I think it's inevitable.

1057
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: I just you know, it's so funny, you know you

1058
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 4: I remember this time last year, and I'm again another

1059
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: media member. I'm not, I promise I'm not criticizing, but

1060
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: you know, Jay Billis was on air, Oh, you know,

1061
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: one year doesn't make a trend, and it's like, but

1062
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: it does though, And and you know people say, well,

1063
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: where where the good mid major teams? Well, I don't

1064
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 4: know where the good mid major players. Last year, Walter

1065
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: Clayton was the final foremost outstanding player began his career

1066
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: at IONA. This year, Yaxa Lenenborg best player on you know,

1067
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 4: maybe the best team Michigan began his career at UAB.

1068
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 4: And so, you know, listen, every year is going to

1069
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: be a little bit different.

1070
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: But I think what.

1071
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: It clearly is is that the money at the power

1072
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: conference level, it leads to a trickle up effect of

1073
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: the good players pursuing good money, but pursuing the best money.

1074
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 4: And then I think there's the obvious thing too of

1075
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: with nil more good good players are just staying in

1076
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 4: college period. And again they're not staying back to go

1077
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 4: to you know, you know, if whoever, if Yoxe Lenenboorg

1078
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 4: comes back to school, he's not coming back to go

1079
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: to UAB. He's coming back to go to Michigan where

1080
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: he can not only develop, not only get better. He

1081
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 4: doesn't have to rush the process. But they're also going

1082
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 4: to pay him like an NBA player. So I actually

1083
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: think it's it's a pseudo uninteresting conversation because the result,

1084
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 4: because the logic is so obvious.

1085
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 6: Now.

1086
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Speaker 4: I think there's a conversation about is the tournament better

1087
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 4: with with underdogs that I know, and I kind of

1088
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: talked about that during the break, but like, but I

1089
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 4: think the conversation of is Cinderella largely dead? Yeah, because

1090
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: you can't keep these teams together, you can't keep the

1091
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 4: good players. The good players are going up a level,

1092
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: and this is the result.

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00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 2: It's funny because it extends into something great quote Matt

1094
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 2: Painter had and I say it's great because I didn't

1095
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: hear it until after I espoused a similar theory.

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00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and then I'm like, haha, he agrees.

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00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: Because all the fighting before the tournament of Miami, Ohio

1098
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: and getting in and then as teams won or played close,

1099
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: it was like, this is why you know nobody wants

1100
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: to schedule us. You know, hey, we're coming for you

1101
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: kind of thing, you know, doing all their WWE shoot interviews.

1102
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: And Matt Panter put it in in the perspective of

1103
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: we schedule a bunch of games like this year, but

1104
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 2: we're not going to schedule six of them. We're gonna

1105
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: schedule a couple. And I cited, you know, the their

1106
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: success and some of the others, but he points out, look,

1107
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: we're one of the only we are the only team

1108
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: nine straight years a top four set. The scheduling that

1109
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: we figured out and we planned seems to work for us.

1110
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: And does that mean that we're not going to be tested. No,

1111
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: but we're not going to schedule a bunch of teams

1112
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: that look like this, sure, because there is that any

1113
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: given Sunday, and that loss may be the difference between

1114
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: at a four line and a six line or a

1115
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: two line and a five line kind of thing, because.

1116
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 3: The margins are that small.

1117
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 2: Because so when they say we're ducking them, it's like, no,

1118
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: why am I going to pay you to come to

1119
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: my place in a game that I may like, there's

1120
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: no win for me, there's no win for a Purdue,

1121
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 2: a Michigan or any of these big conferences to schedule

1122
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: that extra game. Like the only thing that comes out

1123
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: of it is you paid someone to come in and

1124
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: beat you. And now it's a huge blemish on your

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00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 2: resume at the end of a year.

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00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 4: Let me even take it a step further. I mentioned

1127
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 4: this on my show last night. So it's because me

1128
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 4: and Jason Martin had this conversation. It's not only are

1129
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: you not incentivized to schedule goodment majors, you're actually disincentive.

1130
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why.

1131
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 4: And this is something Travis Steel, to his credit, did say.

1132
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: He said, if I was in their position, I would

1133
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 4: do the same thing for people who don't know. So

1134
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 4: the net ranking is the ranking that the committee uses.

1135
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 4: I won't bore too many people, but one of the

1136
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 4: metrics in the NET is margin of victory. And so

1137
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 4: when you schedule a mid major, you're actually incentivized to

1138
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 4: schedule the worst possible mid major you can to have

1139
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 4: the largest margin of victory.

1140
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: So how about this.

1141
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: Forget if high Point comes to Purdue and beats them,

1142
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 4: that's that's Defcon five. But what if Purdue beats them,

1143
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 4: it's a tough game and they win by six as

1144
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: opposed to they could have scheduled whoever and win by

1145
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: forty six, and it helps them in the computer.

1146
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 3: And that's the part.

1147
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 4: And like I said, you know, I'll pseudo defend Travis

1148
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: Steele here because he was public in saying that he's like,

1149
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: I understand it, and he essentially said, you want to

1150
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 4: schedule the best teams, you want to schedule the worst

1151
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: teams in net parlance quad ones in quad fours. You

1152
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 4: don't want Quad two and quiet three teams because it

1153
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 4: doesn't help you in the same manner. So I actually

1154
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 4: see both sides to that argument. And I thought Matt

1155
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 4: Pater's point was fair, Like we schedule five or six

1156
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: of them a year. You know, we only have eleven

1157
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 4: out of conference games, we play twenty league games.

1158
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: Whatever. But I think that's an.

1159
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 4: Important note for the non college basketball die hard is

1160
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 4: the way the net is currently set up, you're incentivized

1161
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: to beat bad teams and beat them as much as

1162
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 4: you possibly can. And like I said, it's not only

1163
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 4: you know the possibility of losing to a high point,

1164
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 4: it's the possibility of only winning by six, which hurts

1165
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 4: you in the computers. And again, to your point, could

1166
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 4: be the difference between a four and a five, a

1167
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 4: five and a six, A four and a six.

1168
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: And yeah, I.

1169
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: Pay you a ton of money to potentially screw myself yes, yes,

1170
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: and it's really it's really not in any walk of life.

1171
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: I mean, that's something nobody's trying to do that out there.

1172
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1173
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 2: No, we all do it in a million different ways,

1174
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: but you're not trying to And that's.

1175
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 3: The thing here. We're all hopeful for you to go.

1176
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 4: One and oh today, and you're also looking out for

1177
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 4: your own bottom line, which is something that we all do.

1178
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 4: And again, i'll just leave it at Travis Steele literally

1179
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: and multiple interviews did say I understand why they do it.

1180
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 4: I wouldn't schedule us either, but it doesn't necessarily make

1181
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: it easier. It doesn't make it the reality any less tough.

1182
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 4: And I actually I give credit to Painter for being like, look,

1183
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 4: this is how it is. I do give credit to

1184
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 4: Travis Steele and Flynn Clayman, who was the high point

1185
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 4: coach after the first game against Wisconsin, being very vocal

1186
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 4: about we knew we were this good.

1187
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: You guys were just afraid to schedule us.

1188
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 4: I think both sides have a point, even if to

1189
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if we got to this point yet,

1190
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: but I was thinking is like, it's a great conversation.

1191
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: I don't think anything is changing because Unfortunately, those big

1192
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 4: schools are not incentivized to schedule school Like, no.

1193
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 3: That's it right.

1194
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: The high point wwe shoot as we called it was

1195
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: great and the fear of scheduling it's just a reality.

1196
00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 8: Yep.

1197
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 3: Okay, you can call it fear. I call it pragmatism.

1198
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: Sure right, I'm gonna pay you a lot of money

1199
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: to your point, Okay, I'm gonna beat you. But if

1200
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 2: it's a margin of ten versus forty five by directional U, yep,

1201
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: why am I not going to schedule all the directional

1202
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: us that I can to to look and once we

1203
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: get leave it to the computers, everything goes the hell

1204
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: we know.

1205
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: That's another conversation, Mike Garment.

1206
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: We'll continue, we'll get to the NBA and luka doncic.

1207
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: Can I do my old man analytics or everything? Right now,

1208
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 4: we'll say we'll save that for another.

1209
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 2: You want to save that, well, well we got four

1210
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: hours on Friday, that's true. Just put that in the

1211
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 2: books for that one as well as just answer Arnie

1212
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: span you're already yeah, yeah, yeah, Arizona's gonna win one

1213
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: hundred and eight to eight.

1214
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 3: Shut up, Artie.

1215
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 4: I believe he said one hundred two days.

1216
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: Oh was it only one hundred and two?

1217
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 4: Let's see here. Yeah, he did say one hundred two days,

1218
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 4: one O two to eight. That is Arnie Spaniard's prediction.

1219
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: To our listeners, just lying to our listeners. There it is.

1220
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: The Ghost Sun Devils had come through. Shay, our executive producer.

1221
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: We've got Chris Burperfett on the ones and twos, Isaac

1222
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: Glow and Grod at the news desk. We appreciate you

1223
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: hanging out with us here on a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday.

1224
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: We got second half action, we'll get an update on

1225
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: the game, and we'll talk a little NBA because Kevin

1226
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: Durant passed another legend on the all time scoring list,

1227
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: and it's one of those things to pull you back

1228
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: and go, how much do these all time rankings? Should

1229
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: we weigh them and change them, just like we do

1230
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: with the metrics and analytics of college buckets. We'll do

1231
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,640
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1246
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Speaker 2: got Maryland and North Carolina Carolina five point lead.

1247
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1248
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1249
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Speaker 2: Turn off to the wonderful world of the National Basketball

1260
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: Association if you will. You guys were on last night

1261
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: Lakers with a little bit of heroics from Knard Marcus

1262
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: Smart finding him for the game winner. But the story

1263
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: has been Luka Doncic and his dominance and Lebron taking

1264
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: a back seat suddenly, maybe politician like being very measured

1265
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: in his approach postgame and complimentary of Luca even admitted

1266
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: to a defensive lapse ooh from a while back in

1267
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 2: a much publicized collapse in a game before their recent terear.

1268
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: But you're on a nine game winning streak and Lucas

1269
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: scored at least thirty points in each of those nine games.

1270
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: First time in NBA history that we've seen those two

1271
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: lines converge, which is pretty amazing when you think of

1272
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: all the data points out there and the number of

1273
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: stars that we've had along the highways and byeways. But

1274
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: we watched live on air during his sixty point performance,

1275
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: his live betting odds or MVP went from thirty five

1276
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: to one to eighteen to one.

1277
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: Wow, Shake Gill.

1278
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: Alexander's actually strengthened as well went from minus fifteen hundred

1279
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: to minus two thousand. But everybody else just drifted off

1280
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: the board. Wenby was suddenly thirty to one. Other guys

1281
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: that were forty fifty to one became one hundred to

1282
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: two hundred to one.

1283
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: But this Lakers.

1284
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: Squad, Aaron and I know we're immersed a lot on

1285
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: the college side, but Lakers living in La as we

1286
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: do have taken up a lot of the oxygen. And

1287
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: it was only about eight weeks ago that people were

1288
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: ready to ship Luca away, saying they'll never win here.

1289
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: He's not half the man he was.

1290
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 4: Supposed to be, or maybe he's twice the man.

1291
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 3: On fourbe I don't know, suddenly superman. No, no, no,

1292
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 3: he's twice the man. You know that. Oh see what

1293
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Oh the wordplay.

1294
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, he's he's exactly who we thought he was

1295
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: in the diet of nutrition. But yeah, no, those were

1296
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 4: the but you know, and it's funny, and I know

1297
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 4: you want to get to KD. But I was on

1298
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: with Dan Byer on Friday and he brought up this

1299
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 4: point of like, can we make a decision on how

1300
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 4: we feel about Luca? Like two weeks ago, you were

1301
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 4: telling me he was out of shape and he was

1302
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 4: the reason that the Lakers were terrible. And I'm just

1303
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to put words in Dan's mouth. Now

1304
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 4: you're telling me he's the MVP. Like, can we find

1305
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 4: a middle ground here? So anyway, but yes, that was

1306
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 4: absolutely the narrative three four five weeks ago.

1307
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: Continue, well, but that's the funny part about it, right,

1308
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: how we vacillate and that's good and bad. Sure, Mike, Right,

1309
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: and like we can only judge, certainly from these bully

1310
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: pulpits on what you've done for me lately. I agree, right,

1311
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: what you did the first half of your career is

1312
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: all find him good if you're playing terribly.

1313
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 3: Now we gotta call it what it is.

1314
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: We have great memories of I don't know, let's go

1315
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: to baseball of what Mike Trout once was, sure and

1316
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 2: what he can be on any given it, bad, sure

1317
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: or game. He's just not that guy consistently anymore, Aaron Judge.

1318
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: We can celebrate his MVPs. I can still say he

1319
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: was terrible in the World Baseball Classic and failed, Sure,

1320
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 2: And you can't get mad at me because it's fat

1321
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: three strikeouts. You're the team captain, you wear it. That's

1322
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: just the way it goes. Likewise here in the NBA,

1323
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: when they were going bad, knowing you're not gonna play

1324
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: a lick of defense anyway, sure we all stipulate to that,

1325
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 2: but when suddenly you're losing too lesser teams, all the

1326
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: teams that you were beating.

1327
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: And I think that's the.

1328
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: Most impressive part about the current streak eron is that

1329
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: they're beating a lot of playoff teams would be contenders,

1330
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: something they didn't do early in the year. So that's

1331
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 2: really the eyebrow raising part of it is how much

1332
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: of it is they're on the court a ton together,

1333
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: how much of it is different? Ebb and flow is

1334
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 2: to buy in in the NBA, that's something we ask

1335
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: all the time.

1336
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 3: Are you in and you out right?

1337
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,479
Speaker 2: And even if you're a contender, does Game sixty five

1338
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: matter if I know I'm going to be the number

1339
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: five or six seed in the playoffs or if i

1340
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 2: know I'm already destined for the play in, do I

1341
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: really get a full effort out of my guys? We

1342
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: got to put it on the schedule. We play our game.

1343
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: But we can all agree that the two are not

1344
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: always equal.

1345
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: I agree. I was gonna ask you a question NBA related.

1346
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 4: I can't remember what I was gonna say.

1347
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1348
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 4: I was gonna say something about the Lakers or something.

1349
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 4: But no, you're all good, Yeah, ninth straight. Like you said,

1350
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 4: I still don't know that. I believe that they're a contender,

1351
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 4: but that that's another you know.

1352
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: But it's better if that's at least a conversation, right

1353
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: as opposed to being buried, because let's face it, there's

1354
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: two sides, two mountains, and Lucas just you know, like

1355
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: a byproduct of it all. In his conversation, it's all

1356
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: about Lebron James. Sure, if they lose, it's because he's

1357
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: old and he sabotaged everything. Sure, if they win, well,

1358
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: Luca will get the love from the people that don't

1359
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: like Lebron. That's f the Lebron sick of fants will

1360
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: build another statue. Yes, yeah, that's really how it plays out.

1361
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: Because the other NBA story that I found fascinating, and

1362
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: we're talking a lot about the EBB and flow of

1363
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 2: college buckets, we'll get back into the latest act of

1364
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: John Calipari. For the last couple of minutes of the show,

1365
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: because he's a guy that's been a divisive character. A

1366
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: lot of these coaches right have had their I think

1367
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: tom Izzo is the only guy that really ever outside

1368
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: of stuff that was going around at Michigan State. Oh yeah, that,

1369
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: which is a whole other conversation, right in terms of

1370
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: what was being administrated, who knew what, no where, But

1371
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: in terms of his on court, like he's just kind

1372
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: of been the same guy. But everybody else has had

1373
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: their their run ins where people loved them or hated them.

1374
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: Calib Parry, We'll talk about him in a minute. But

1375
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: the other NBA story was trying to talk about down

1376
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: distance in the Changing of the Game, Kevin Durant surpassed

1377
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan on the all time scoring list to move

1378
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: into the top five all time now last year. Last

1379
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: week in the in this virtual chair, he was on

1380
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: assignment there for the Planet Houston. Ryan Hollins and I

1381
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: were talking about he's got the pleasure of covering him

1382
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: for the Rockets all the time. I go, how does

1383
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: he do all this while having no calves? Which he

1384
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: just got a laugh, slim reaper getting after it. But

1385
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: talking about the change of the game, three point shooting, longevity,

1386
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: some of these elixirs, and you know, finding the fountain

1387
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: of youth maybe down in Florida and whatever else. But

1388
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: we're looking at James Harden's the top ten guy of

1389
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: all times, Kevin Durant' now for fifth. Obviously Lebron James

1390
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: tops all time, and Durant with another three hundred and

1391
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: fifty will pass Kobe Bryant, wow, for fourth all time.

1392
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: It's just trying to put that all in perspective as to,

1393
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, some of the legends of the past and

1394
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: what they did, how it I don't know that it

1395
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: gets squashed, but as other players move up some of

1396
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: these rankings, and doesn't take anything away from Kevin Durant,

1397
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: one of my favorites to watch. Even James Harden, there's

1398
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: a science to the lunacy of how he's played a game,

1399
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: like it or not. He was shaved before Shay and

1400
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: all that.

1401
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: Not that Shay.

1402
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: Gildess Alexander in terms of free throw hunting, but I

1403
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: mean Russell Westbrook's fourteenth all time. So longevity and being

1404
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: able to stay around and be wanted is a big

1405
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: deal in these in these day and ages where so

1406
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: much has changed.

1407
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, First of all, it's kind of wild to talk

1408
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 4: about the longevity. I remember when I was still living

1409
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 4: on the East Coast. I remember they were This is

1410
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: how long ago it was. They were playing the New

1411
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 4: Jersey Nets in New Jersey. This is Kevin Durant and

1412
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 4: I think they were the Oklahoma City Thunder at this point.

1413
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 4: I don't think they were the Seattle Sonics, but I

1414
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: remember I was. I was dating a young lady at

1415
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 4: the time. She lived not far from Jersey, and I

1416
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 4: remember taking her to a game because he was doing things,

1417
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 4: even as a second third year player, that we had

1418
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 4: never seen. And so you think about New Jersey Nets

1419
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,479
Speaker 4: Torres living on the East Coast, that young lady who's

1420
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 4: doing very well for herself without me, it's definitely not

1421
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 4: my current wife, I'll tell you that much. It just

1422
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 4: shows how long that he's been around. And I do think,

1423
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 4: you know, the thing that I respect about Katie is

1424
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 4: and I know he's got all the you know, teammate stuff,

1425
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 4: burner stuff and this, and that the guy clearly loves

1426
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 4: the game of basketball. And I do think there are

1427
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 4: a lot of guys in this current era that we

1428
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 4: feel like cheat the game, right whether it's load management,

1429
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 4: whether it's not being in shape, whether it's taking nights off,

1430
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 4: whether it's whatever. Katie loves basketball, plays as much as

1431
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 4: he can. He certainly had injuries, most notably the Achilles,

1432
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 4: But like when he's available to play, he's basically on

1433
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 4: the court, and I go to two things. Is one.

1434
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 4: If you remember, Mike, I remember talking about this at

1435
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 4: the time on these Fox Sports radio airwaves, the twenty

1436
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 4: twenty one Olympics. So we're supposed to have the Olympics

1437
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. We have the COVID Summer Games of

1438
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, and basically all of the star players

1439
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 4: opted out because why travel to Japan, you know, live

1440
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 4: in isolation. At the time, if you remember, it was

1441
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 4: still social distancing, it was still and all the big

1442
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 4: names opted out except for Kevin Durant. And like he

1443
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: wanted to play, he wanted to represent his country. He's

1444
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 4: kind of been public about, Hey, if y'all still want

1445
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 4: me in twenty twenty eight, I'm available to play in

1446
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 4: the And so the guy loves basketball. Again, there's the

1447
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 4: teammate things, there's other variables that come with Kevin Durant.

1448
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,879
Speaker 4: You can't question his love for the sport, and obviously

1449
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 4: to the point that you just brought up, you can't

1450
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 4: question the unquestionable talent that now has him on this

1451
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 4: list as high as he.

1452
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 3: Is just an amazing thing.

1453
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 2: And just think if he was wearing regular sized basketball

1454
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: I was on air for that, the narrative may be

1455
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 2: completely different, right, right, That super team that they formed

1456
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: goes down because his shoe is too big against Milwaukee.

1457
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 4: And that was when twenty twenty one, right, So imagine

1458
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 4: the Yiannis conversation that you know, we're now on Team Yiannis.

1459
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 4: It's time to go. He did what he was supposed

1460
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 4: to do. Imagine if you're talking about a multi time

1461
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 4: MVP never brought the Bucks to not only a championship,

1462
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 4: he obviously at this point would have never even made

1463
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 4: the finals. But from the case perspective, yeah, I was

1464
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 4: on air for that game. I vividly remember it well,

1465
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 4: and yeah, I think he's one that I think, let

1466
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 4: me ask you this, in the day to day moment

1467
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 4: of all of these narratives of the Burner accounts, and

1468
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 4: it didn't end well here and it didn't end well there,

1469
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 4: I think it's easy to kind of villain is a

1470
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 4: strong word, but maybe dislike him, but I think when

1471
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 4: we look back in twenty years will be like that

1472
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 4: guy was awesome and a lot of fun to watch,

1473
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 4: even if in the day to day in his career

1474
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 4: we were critical of a lot of things.

1475
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: Well, but it gives us content. So I'm gonna applaud

1476
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 2: him that as well. But like I mentioned, the other

1477
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 2: guys on that list right alongside KD in these active

1478
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 2: top fifteens, you got Westbrook, you got Harden. All three

1479
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: of these guys also have the link together of they

1480
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 2: haven't been afraid to be the villain sure, right, And

1481
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 2: that's where Giannis needs to get over the hump. I look,

1482
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 2: it's not always gonna end pretty, right, that young lady

1483
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: that you for taking to that game that might not

1484
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: have ended well, we've all had several of those, maybe

1485
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: maybe a lot of those in your life. Maybe it's

1486
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: just one, whether it's a job or a relationship where

1487
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: there's that that blow up. And all three of these

1488
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 2: guys in their their travels and been like yeah, I

1489
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: mean James Harden was on a sneaker tour in China

1490
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: talking about how, hey you in the back, did you

1491
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: get that I mean, come on, we've seen it, so

1492
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: you know not that we all we we all celebrate

1493
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: the villains on television and movies. So uh here for

1494
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 2: sports a little bit as well, and to the point

1495
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 2: to just tie the bow. It's one of the things

1496
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: that Jason Tatum, who's also gotten some incoming through the

1497
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: years of maybe he doesn't care enough. That guy had

1498
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: no reason to come back and play unless he really

1499
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: loved basketball right now. He could have very easily just

1500
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: waited until the fall and come back. I don't know

1501
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: he wanted in because the Eastern Conference is potentially theirs

1502
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: for the taking. So in a day and age, we're

1503
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: again talking about load management, days off and all of

1504
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 2: these things. One thing we could say about that group

1505
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: of guys wherever they can play, they laced up.

1506
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: Great call, Jason Tatum. Great call. On top of the

1507
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 3: all the KD stuff.

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01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,920
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Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcast, you'll find today's show fully

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Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air. Now it's

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Speaker 2: time to turn our attention back to the news desk

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01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: for an update of all things cook It on a Sunday.

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Speaker 3: It's our guy, Isaac.

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01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 5: Lohenkron, Mike and aerin a trip to the Sweet sixteen

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01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 5: on the line as we speak in Saint Louis, two

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01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 5: seed per Due holding go fifty five to fifty lead

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01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 5: over seven seed Miami of Florida, eleven to twelve, remaining

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Speaker 5: of the second half. Baseball, Philadelphia Phillies pitch Daniel Robert

1527
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 5: is stable after experiencing a cardiac event while throwing a

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 5: bullpen session today at Clearwater, Florida. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, Robert,

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01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 5: who suffered a separate cardiac event last October, staggered off

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 5: the mound and collapsed onto his back, but did not

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01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 5: appear to lose consciousness at any time. Robert was able

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01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 5: to walk off the field under his own power before

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01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 5: being transported to a local hospital for evaluation. In the NBA,

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 5: on Saturday night, the Los Angeles Lakers one at Orlando

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01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 5: on five to one four. Luke Canard the game winning

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 5: three pointer with point six to play. It gave the

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01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 5: Lakers a nine game winning streak. Now, during the game,

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01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 5: Luka Doncic got a technical foul for taking exception to

1539
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,520
Speaker 5: something that was said to him by Orlando center Goga Bitaz.

1540
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 5: Donci said that Bitaze told him the following in Serbian.

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01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 5: Listen closely.

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 11: He said, at Fritto, my whole family and at some point,

1543
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 11: you know it's his best of Cory. At some point,

1544
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 11: I just can't stand. I got to stand up for myself,

1545
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 11: but I know I gotta do better. My teammate center

1546
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 11: that have my bag, So I'll let him down today.

1547
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 11: But I hopefully you get resenter.

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01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 5: Indeed, Donch and the Lakers hope that technical will be

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 5: rescinded under the circumstances because it was Doncic's sixteenth of

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 5: the season, which would mean a one game suspension. Mike

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01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 5: and Aaron back to you.

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01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 2: Thanks Ilo at Isaac lowancront, he didn't have anything else

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01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: than that. He said, blank, your family, and that's enough

1554
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: to get you off to a technical full come on,

1555
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: countrymen too, Really that and I mean, if you don't

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: have audio, then it's a he said.

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 3: He said, I said something about his family.

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 5: I suppose you don also have to have Google Translate too, but.

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01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like, yeah, I don't know.

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01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 3: He he goaded me by saying something about my family.

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 4: There's a lot of Miles, Garrett Mason, Rudolph vibes going

1562
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 4: on there. Yeah, no, he totally said it. Yeah, we

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01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,440
Speaker 4: have literally no proof that that actually happened.

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01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 3: But there you go that. Wow, that's a reference from.

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I got a little dark there. But that's

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01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 4: the first thing.

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: Though, right, like save kind of idea might prove it. Yeah,

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01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: he guys going into the stands. They were yelling this,

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01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: like were they No, someone's got it on their phone

1570
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: because they record anything if a guy or a woman

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01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: of any celebrity walks within one hundred yards of you.

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Speaker 4: I was just say there was something recently where it

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 4: was like, wait, that happened, but no one. Oh it

1574
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 4: was the john Shire Oh yeah, my coaches got punched

1575
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 4: on the sideline after the UNC game. It's like, Oh,

1576
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 4: everyone's on the court with their phone celebrating and recording,

1577
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 4: yet no one caught it.

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01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 3: Sorry, John Shower not to take it to the world

1579
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 3: of pop culture.

1580
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: Allegedly, you know, soccer star kid goes and hawks at

1581
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: Chapel Roone at breakfast and allegedly security guard you know,

1582
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 2: came after the family saying, hey, leave her alone and

1583
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 2: whatever else you're telling me.

1584
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 3: Nobody in that restaurant. Yeah, got it, And come.

1585
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 4: On, we have everyone has a recording device.

1586
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: We're all journalists lowercase Jen at Aaron Underscore Torres where

1587
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: you find and check out his podcast, check out all

1588
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 2: the work he's got going on there on his website

1589
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 2: and everything. Find me over at Swollen Dome as we

1590
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: continue the celebration of the veteran coaches John Caliperi once

1591
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: sponted time. I mean, I quote him all the time.

1592
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: We'll tell you what that's all about in this latest

1593
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 2: run in the NCAA Tournament.

1594
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:25,799
Speaker 3: Next here on Fox.

1595
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

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Speaker 6: listen live.

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01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: Greetings, Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 2: The last couple of minutes for Aaron Torres and myself

1601
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,959
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman trying to smack talk Aaron Torres.

1602
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 3: Because you got the UCLA.

1603
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: Bruins mc cronin on one side, Danny Hurley and the

1604
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: Ukon Huskies on the other. I think I'd rather just

1605
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 2: see the two of those guys in a cage yelling

1606
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: at each other.

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01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Steve Hartin's trying to give me the mc cronin

1608
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 4: stare down, but.

1609
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: He's walking around. He's trying to throw you out of

1610
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 2: the studio because that's what he does.

1611
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 4: Like you about eight inches too tall to give me

1612
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 4: the mc cronin stare down. You gotta you gotta be

1613
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 4: looking up.

1614
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 3: Real quick.

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01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 6: You know.

1616
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 4: I tried to do the with de Sager last night,

1617
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 4: the we should get a bet going for that game,

1618
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 4: and he just could not have brushed me off any faster.

1619
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 4: So I'd say, Steve Hartman, we should make some sort

1620
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 4: of bet. But I you're doing TV all the time.

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01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 4: I don't even know when we would get together for

1622
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 4: the dinner. When when you have to pay off after

1623
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 4: Yukon wins. But that's okay, plenty of time. Neither of

1624
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 4: you are going anywhere. You're stuck here.

1625
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 2: It's the Hotel California, Fox Sports Radio style check out anytime,

1626
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 2: never leave. So that's one of the big matchups today.

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01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: We talked with Saint John's and Kansas being the other.

1628
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 2: But the other figure in all of this John Caliperry.

1629
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: We've been talking a lot about the coaches and some

1630
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: of the great messaging along the way, and as we

1631
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 2: were just talking with the NBA right the vacillation, the

1632
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 2: swinging pendulum of love or hate with Lebron and Luca

1633
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: and Katie and so many of these other figures. John

1634
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 2: Calipari one of those figures as well. I cite him

1635
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 2: all the time. The succeed and proceed right wins don't

1636
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: always have to be pretty right your day to day.

1637
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 2: All of you out there the life lesson here, we

1638
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 2: try to send you away with some positivity. It may

1639
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 2: not be pretty. There may be moments of self doubt.

1640
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 2: The people around you you feel let you down, or

1641
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: maybe you let them down, whatever else. But in the end,

1642
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: you're trying to lay your head down at the end

1643
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 2: of the night and go one to oh. Games are

1644
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: not going to be perfect. I cited Patino the other day.

1645
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 2: They're up twenty to three, they're bludgeting their opponent and

1646
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: he's still riding them and Caliperi is a guy that

1647
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: I think through the run of his career, people have

1648
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: been hot and cold on no doubt.

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01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 4: Really quick, because we're a few minutes from our next update.

1650
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,799
Speaker 4: We do have some late breaking news.

1651
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 3: Okay.

1652
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 4: According to Pete Thamil sources, Syracuse working to finalize a

1653
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,480
Speaker 4: deal to hire Sienna coach Jerry McNamara.

1654
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 3: As the school's next head coach.

1655
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know, if you out there, guy, what

1656
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: do you think ncaa tournament hero for them forty three

1657
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 2: points in a game all those years ago.

1658
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was at some of those games when he

1659
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 4: Yu Kon was on the wrong side of it. I'll

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01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 4: just be quick, is I think if he hadn't made

1661
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 4: the tournament, it's a tough sell just because he's an alum.

1662
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 4: But he made the tournament. They showed strong. Brian hotched him.

1663
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 4: By the way, was the guy at South Florida who

1664
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 4: took the Providence job earlier. He's from upstate New York,

1665
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 4: so I think there was a waiting for him to

1666
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 4: make his final decision. They clearly move fast. I actually

1667
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 4: don't hate it. I don't love it, but it's an

1668
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 4: Nio world. I don't know where they are right now,

1669
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 4: so I don't hate it, all.

1670
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 2: Of those curiosities right when the player tries to go

1671
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: home where they've had great success, and we've seen some

1672
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: where that's been brilliant, somewhere that's been well, not so much.

1673
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: And for this one, you know, Smith and I joke

1674
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 2: about it the other day Syracu salum Jason Smith, where's it?

1675
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: Literally was wearing it.

1676
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 3: On his chest.

1677
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: I go, if they win this game, you know he's

1678
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: gonna get you guys on the way down. I'll take

1679
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: another another head coaching job up the ladder. Sure settling

1680
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: for his alma ma Hunter.

1681
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 4: I realized midway through. I'm like, oh my goodness, Mike

1682
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 4: Harmon is gonna have to talk about this for like

1683
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 4: four straight hours on Monday.

1684
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: So no, we'll find some other things to talk about.

1685
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: But where are you at and coach cal In this

1686
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: what's supposed to be his last act, just like Rick

1687
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: Patino's had a lot of last acts.

1688
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 4: Well, no, I'm happy for him. I'll be quick. The

1689
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 4: move to him, the parting of the ways for him

1690
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 4: and Kentucky was the right move for both sides. We'll

1691
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 4: see how it works out for Kentucky. I am surprised

1692
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 4: with the success that he is having two straight Sweet

1693
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 4: sixteens SEC Tournament championship.

1694
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 3: Happy to see it happen.

1695
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: Over Yeah, we're looking at a fifty to twenty two

1696
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: record overall. We'll talk about this when we reconvene on

1697
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: Friday and pay more homage as we get into the

1698
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 2: next rounds at Aaron underscore tourist. Check out all his work.

1699
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 2: You'll hear them all week on the network. Find me

1700
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome. Steve and VJ coming up next year.

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01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Radio Go. Want to know people