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Speaker 5: See you there, all right, guys, welcome back. We uh

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Speaker 5: this is gonna be a dope episode. We got a

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Speaker 5: legend in the game, Brian Michael Cox and thank you

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Speaker 5: for having me, bro, I appreciate it. Man Brandy winning

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Speaker 5: songwriter and producer. Work with some people that you may

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Speaker 7: He even they might make it in the business one day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, come from come from strong music pedigree.

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Speaker 5: We go to his parties all the.

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Speaker 3: Time in Atlanta. In fact, grew on his music.

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Speaker 5: Entrepreneur as well. And somebody has constantly reinvented himself over

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Speaker 5: his twenty twenty five years, your twenty six years now, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: So don't even feel like it's crazy.

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Speaker 8: You guys for having me man, Yeah, long overdue, man,

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Speaker 4: We frequent a lot of your parties. Yes, man, I'll

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Speaker 8: We we we always, you know, have great energy. We

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Speaker 7: And I appreciate you brothers when I appreciate you all

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Speaker 7: And also just what you guys are doing in general,

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Speaker 7: Few things before that. I mean, I did every miss

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Speaker 7: But when I got with Jagged, it was more I

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Speaker 4: Of so you're getting credit as the writer for the

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Speaker 7: Music lyrics in Nashville, they split everything one hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: It's thirty three and the third no matter what, right.

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Speaker 8: Or same amount, no matter what right.

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Speaker 7: And urban culture and in pop culture, really in pop

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Speaker 7: You know, they have people break it down some rhythm,

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Speaker 7: The way that I used to break it down before

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Speaker 8: By yourself, right, then we'll split the fifty and.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the producer gets fifty and the music the person

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Speaker 7: You're right, the lyrics that's you know, to write. Take

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Speaker 5: So those guys in the country music world, they're writing

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Speaker 8: That's producing.

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Speaker 8: You know. It was like, oh, it's still the country versise.

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Speaker 3: You know, ya wrote the lyrics today, the lyrics and

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Speaker 7: You got ghostwriters over there, man. Real life is usually

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Speaker 5: So for artists that don't produce, all right, they get

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Speaker 7: They ye can, though you can negotiate it if you

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Speaker 3: So I learned along the way.

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Speaker 7: To be honest with you, I didn't even realize that

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Speaker 8: You just kind of like, you know, do I set

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Speaker 3: Do I? You know, you know, you know, you don't

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Speaker 7: So from that angle, how are you gonna shift and

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Speaker 3: Which was the record? It was like, all right, this

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Speaker 7: And I made a deal we may I made my

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Speaker 4: Let me get that is our work, So you get it.

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Speaker 7: But in hindsight, it feels like it was designed to

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. Now, you know, in hindsight, those.

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Speaker 3: Certainly not to recruit.

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Speaker 7: Well, illustrating new idea is the idea Kim and me

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Speaker 4: So now I was thinking from a creative standpoint. You've

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Speaker 4: There's been obviously a change in music. This has been

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Speaker 7: They went about promoting her album Death Jam and Shocking

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00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 7: and Wine. I promote her album a very old school single,

439
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 7: very old school way. Initially it's like we're gonna put

440
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 7: this song out, We're gonna go to radio, and they

441
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 7: did all those things and it built a proper foundation,

442
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 7: and the record was actually doing extremely well on radio already,

443
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 7: you know, like adult R and B radio stations out

444
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 7: there was we had number one with that. It was

445
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 7: like she was doing well. It was it smelled like

446
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 7: a hit already, you know what I'm saying. But top

447
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 7: of the year, TikTok happened. You know whoever you know,

448
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 7: the girl with the blue pajamas or whatever that or

449
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 7: whatever that was. That shit just went nuts. And for me,

450
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 7: it's like, wow, you know it, thank you, you.

451
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, I wasn't right. We weren't expecting

452
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: that at all.

453
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 4: When you hear it, it feels like an error of

454
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 4: R and B. Yeah, it just has that feel to it,

455
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 4: so like when you're on the radio. It's like I

456
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 4: remember listening to songs like this on the radio when

457
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 4: you're trying to craft that sound. Are you drawing back

458
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 4: to that time where it's like, you know, people.

459
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 3: Like R and B is dead? But like obviously yes.

460
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 7: She wanted that saying she specifically you know, it was

461
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 7: like do the thing that y'all did you know? That

462
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 7: was basically you know what I mean what she I mean,

463
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 7: it was very very specific. She was very intentional about

464
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 7: what she how she wanted that song to sound.

465
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: So what how much money can you actually might make

466
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: writing a song.

467
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 7: A high one hundred, like a number one, high one

468
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 7: hundred song you can make you know, I mean as

469
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 7: far as it can generate I'm sorry, the song could generate,

470
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 7: you know, from on the publisher side, a minimum of

471
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 7: a million dollars if it's a number one, you know

472
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 7: what I mean. You know, it could generate a lot

473
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 7: of money. And depending on all the splits and who

474
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 7: you know, So if you're in a publishing deal, if

475
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 7: you're not a publishing deal, if you know what I mean,

476
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 7: if you're on fifteen percent of the song, if you

477
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 7: on twenty five percent of song, if you on fifty,

478
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 7: know what I mean. It depends on the split. But

479
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 7: the song itself could generate a lot of money. You

480
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 7: you can make a lot of money if you are

481
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 7: a hit on writer. Let's if you're a top hundred, yeah, like.

482
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 5: The dream, Like, all right, so who's your top songwriter?

483
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 5: The dream is a dream the top songwriter? Absolutely yeah, absolutely.

484
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: So he's making millions of dollars.

485
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 8: He's making tens of millions of dollars.

486
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: I looked at that just every year, just off of

487
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: that Cowboy Carter.

488
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's making he's making a lot.

489
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 5: But he also said he said something about like working

490
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 5: with Beyonce with you know, it's not.

491
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 3: A regular deal, working with no your splits is going

492
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: to be a lot less. Yeah.

493
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 7: But but the but the but the density of those songs,

494
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 7: the entity is a lot of them. Like he makes

495
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 7: a lot of the songs, and those songs performed so well.

496
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 7: I mean even when you don't think those songs are

497
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 7: performing well, you know what I mean. We were talking

498
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 7: about this the other day. I was saying somebody asked me, like,

499
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 7: what do you think about Cowboy Carter? And I was like,

500
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 7: I like it right, And it was like we don't

501
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 7: really hear a lot of it, you know. And I

502
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 7: was like, go look at the metrics, like where her?

503
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 7: Where her the music? Like she is doing well?

504
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, that's interesting because I haven't heard this song.

505
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 3: I haven't heard too many songs either. Where's where's it

506
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: doing well at?

507
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 7: She's doing well on all DSPs, She's doing well. Now,

508
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 7: she's doing well on country music. Rats you know, her

509
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 7: fans are so relentless, you know what I mean, Like

510
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 7: they just she could really do no wrong with her fans,

511
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 7: you know what i mean. So when you have a

512
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 7: fan base like that, you super served them, you know

513
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 7: what i mean. She's super served to be high, you

514
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 7: know what i mean, Like no Worther, like you saw

515
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 7: a renaissance, Like everybody had on silver and it's coming

516
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 7: to the can you know what I'm saying, silver, I'm

517
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 7: black at the concert?

518
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 8: So what you did to go be wearing at the concert?

519
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 8: Cowboy Carter?

520
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 7: Everybody going to have on cowboy boots and chaps and

521
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 7: you know Cowboy has Like she's she's super served her

522
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 7: audience in a way that I've really seen an artists

523
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 7: do in a long time.

524
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 3: I mean.

525
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 7: So even though to the to the to the to

526
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 7: us the consumers who are like the general consumers, it

527
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 7: doesn't feel like massive, you know what I mean, But

528
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 7: for her fans, it's it's massive.

529
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I mean, Let's take our money.

530
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: You know.

531
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 7: And so when you so as you the dream right

532
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 7: and you are locked into that situation, that's like that's

533
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 7: like guaranteed money.

534
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 4: It's like every time, every time so when you have

535
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 4: a number one, you gotta feel a bunch of them.

536
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 4: Let's take burn, Let's take Uh you Got a Bad

537
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 4: as You Confessions Part two, which they said it is

538
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 4: the greatest R and B record of the congratulationship A brother. Yes,

539
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 4: when you have a record like that, the longevity longevity

540
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: of it obviously plays out. But when you make a classic,

541
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: is there competition within yourself to say how do I

542
00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 4: recreate it?

543
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: Or how do what? Topic?

544
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean always before I think now it isn't now.

545
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter now because I mean, I'm forty six

546
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 7: years old. I've been doing this for twenty six years,

547
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 7: twenty seven years now, So it's like, you know, it's like,

548
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 7: you know, I think that you can you can get

549
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 7: lost in the sauce trying to chase something that was right.

550
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 8: All you could do is just.

551
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 7: Continue to try to outdo your The competition is not

552
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 7: about the past. The competition is about the competitive spirit

553
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 7: is about can I do? Can I make another one?

554
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 7: Because it just it don't even have to be another

555
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 7: the same thing. Can I just make something interesting that

556
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 7: people want to hear, you know what I mean? And

557
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 7: we do it so much now, you know, we make

558
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 7: We make music every day, so we make it music

559
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 7: every day all your life, you know what I mean.

560
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 7: I've been in the game twenty six, twenty seven years.

561
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 7: I've been making music as I was you know, yeah,

562
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 7: I've been I've been playing music as I.

563
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: Was a kid.

564
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 7: So every day in your life it's like it's now,

565
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 7: it's just you know, you just the competition is to continue,

566
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 7: is to create creative.

567
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

568
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 7: You know, it's the hope that the creativity never runs out.

569
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 7: So you listen to things, you try to you know,

570
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 7: now it's just trying to stay inspired.

571
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: You know.

572
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: The writing team, Like I said that y'all make hits.

573
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: So I know you and Jamaine still right, do you

574
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 4: John say and do y'all ever get together and say, yeah,

575
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: let's let's create something.

576
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we we we.

577
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 7: You know, johns is is Uh has been leaning more

578
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 7: to the you know, business house. He went to he

579
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 7: went back to college and got his degree in business,

580
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 7: you know, business degree and all that, you know what

581
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 7: I mean. So he's really working closely with us. You're

582
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 7: now in that capacity. But we're still right, we still

583
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 7: you know, we still have those moments will be coming

584
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 7: together and do that. You know, me and me and

585
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 7: Jermaine are pretty much the studio rats. We the wants

586
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 7: in the studio all day, all night, you know what

587
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 7: I'm saying. But but so, because everybody kind of works

588
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 7: with each other in different capacities, were always going to

589
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 7: always be in a room together at some point.

590
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 5: So as far as this nightlife conversation, yes, so I

591
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: thought the party was called R and B only, but

592
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 5: his ladies love art.

593
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: He's a R and B.

594
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 7: So R and B on is another part of somebody else's.

595
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 7: So we started out. It's funny because Keith sent me

596
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 7: the first flyer that we ever did. He said that

597
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 7: to me, I'm gonna show you guy, it's crazy and

598
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 7: John seventeen. But we started as R and B Wednesdays,

599
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 7: all right, that's where it started. Start at R and

600
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 7: B Wednesdays, and we were with Rugs SL Lounge and

601
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 7: I'm gonna keep it real about that too, right. I

602
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 7: had no idea that that was like that we were

603
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 7: going to build that business.

604
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 8: I didn't even look at that as a business. Initially.

605
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 7: It was kind of like how even how the pitch was,

606
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 7: It's crazy how we started doing that party, right, I

607
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 7: was like twenty sixteen, I went through like a wild breakup, right,

608
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 7: I was. There was this girl I thought I was

609
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 7: gonna marry and the shit just didn't work out, right.

610
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 8: She ended up getting married to somebody else really quickly, right,

611
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 8: very quick.

612
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 7: And got pregnant everything else, And so it was like, wow,

613
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 7: you know, we don't talk about how like mental health,

614
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, effects Well now we do,

615
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 7: but at that time, we didn't really talk about how

616
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 7: mental health effects black men, you know what I mean?

617
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: And I was.

618
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 7: I remember sitting up that year was so crazy because

619
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 7: it was like my my my uh my ex girlfriend

620
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 7: got married fast, then my auntie Jackie had passed away,

621
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 7: and then my father passed away. My aunt Jackie had

622
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 7: passed and then my father passed away.

623
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: Right.

624
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 7: So I remember sitting in my room one day like, okay, yo,

625
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 7: I'm I'm depressed.

626
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: Yo.

627
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 7: I'm like, You're like, like this is you know this

628
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 7: because initially I knew I was I was having about

629
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 7: with depression, but I didn't want it to be because

630
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 7: of the girl, you know what I'm saying.

631
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 8: I was like, no, I'm not gonna let this situation.

632
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 8: You know, you're probably down right.

633
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 7: But then my aunt passed and my dad passed, and

634
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 7: I was just like, oh, man, I gotta go see somebody,

635
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 7: go talk somebody. In the midst of all of this,

636
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 7: me and Keith started, you know, really hanging out.

637
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 8: Like he was always be my homeboy. Well I was cool.

638
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 7: You know, he us his best friend and so we've

639
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 7: known each other for many, many years. But we just

640
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 7: started like he'd be like, man, I'm gonna pick you up, man,

641
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 7: because you know, you knew I was, you know down,

642
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 7: I'm coming to pick you up.

643
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: Man.

644
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 8: We're gonna go out.

645
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 7: And we was literally going to the club every night

646
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 7: in Atlanta, right. And this is, you know, twenty sixteen.

647
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 7: I was seventeen. This is like, literally it's only trap

648
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 7: going on in the club. Yeah, it's only trap going

649
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 7: on the club. It's not like it's not like a

650
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 7: whole lot of R and B going on in in

651
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 7: these weekly spots. And then we're R and B parties

652
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 7: popping up like the Groove and you know, uh, everyday people,

653
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 7: and you know those parties were happening, but I'm talking

654
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 7: about in Atlanta, every day it was trap music, right.

655
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 7: And then what started happening was we'd be at the party.

656
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 7: We'd be like, man, this party is so weed, you

657
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 7: know what I mean, like like it felt you don't mean.

658
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: It just feels dark. The enagy is dark.

659
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 7: Everybody fights breaking out because the music make you want

660
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 7: to fight, you know what I mean.

661
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 8: There's something started to happen.

662
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 7: Right, we started going these parties and like around like

663
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 7: eleven forty five, right, the DJ would go into an

664
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 7: R and B set, whether it was an old scorn

665
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 7: B set, you know, nineties, or he would go he

666
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 7: would play Army Flight thirty forty five minutes, and you

667
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 7: would you would actually see the energy of the crowd

668
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 7: lift right, like you see the girls start dancing, you see,

669
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 7: you know what I mean?

670
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 8: And you actually saw it.

671
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 7: So we would I would be like, yo, man, we

672
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 7: need to do a part of like partly like this

673
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 7: that's all night, that plays this kind of music all night,

674
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. And his lady was working

675
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 7: at this club, she was a bartender at this club

676
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 7: at Russ Club Assel, and we would always go kick it,

677
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 7: go go to go see Jeanine, and you know, and

678
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 7: she said Russ came. He was like, yo, you know

679
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 7: your boyfriend is heying all the time to my Keith,

680
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 7: your boyfriend's here all the time, Like why don't you

681
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 7: have him come do party?

682
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

683
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 7: And she was the one she at first like I

684
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 7: didn't I wasn't quite sure y'all would do a party

685
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 7: of essale. But she told him about it and he

686
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 7: was like, let me talk to Brian about it. Came

687
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 7: talk to me about it. He was like, yo, man, look,

688
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's any money and anything like that.

689
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 7: At least we'll be able to hit him as we

690
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 7: want to hear, and we get the drink for free.

691
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: That was That was basically the pitch, you know what

692
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: I mean. I mean, you know what I'm saying.

693
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 7: Okay, And and I think the first week very like

694
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 7: like I think we walked away with sixty bucks and

695
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 7: peat some of that something crazy. But then what happened

696
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 7: was we had such a good time the first night

697
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 7: right and Ruggs told us. He was like, Yo, I'm

698
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 7: telling you man, this all this. It was only maybe

699
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 7: ten people in there first the first Wednesday. Twenty people maybe,

700
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 7: but Ruggs was like, Yo, this is going to jump

701
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, like, don't quit, Like, let's just keep

702
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 7: doing it and like a month later, bro, like the

703
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 7: party was lit like.

704
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: And the state when didn't go to Red Martini.

705
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 7: Went to Red Martini in twenty twenty nineteen. No, I'm

706
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 7: sorry in twenty twenty twenty twenty because we were at Medusa.

707
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: The first one was in the Madusa, Medusa.

708
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 7: Before and then and Medusa they had some management issues

709
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 7: or whatever Medusa and then we had to move the party. No, yeah,

710
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 7: we didn't move to the party, move the party or uh

711
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 7: Red Martini.

712
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: It's been there ever since.

713
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 7: And it's I mean the location the like Red Martinez

714
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 7: just one of them spots. It's just like it's easy

715
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 7: to go to. Everybody knows where it's at, you know

716
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 7: what I mean. And we literally in twenty twenties when

717
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 7: I was like twenty twenty one is when I was like, Yo,

718
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 7: we're doing this, like this is a business now, bro,

719
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 7: let's really expand it. So then that that led us

720
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 7: into doing Vegas. We did Usher's after parties for Vegas.

721
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 7: So we made a deal, did us just after parts

722
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 7: for Vegas. Then we ended up going to Dubai. They

723
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 7: ended up doing something in Toronto, and so it started

724
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 7: turning to this thing we're like, we started doing pop ups.

725
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 7: Then we had Houston for like a year and a half,

726
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 7: so so it's turning to this thing where like, okay,

727
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 7: this is like.

728
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 5: A real bibles. It's one of these things. So we

729
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 5: got introduced to it from Alex Good Energy. Yes, and

730
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 5: he always got like the best table of yeah, yeah, yeah,

731
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: so he's the one that introduced us. That was back

732
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 5: in the Meduca days. And then shout out to mixed

733
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 5: master David David. Yeah, he actually did my birthday party.

734
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 5: That's so what happened is that, you know, once we

735
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 5: started getting this vibe of like this R and B vibe,

736
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 5: you never really realize what you're missing until you actually

737
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 5: see it, right, So we just we've been going to

738
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 5: parties all our lives and it's just you know, you

739
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 5: just adapt to what is being played, right, So we

740
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 5: adapt to to trap music. We adapt to in New York,

741
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 5: it's it's heavy Latin influence, reggaetne heavy.

742
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: You know, you just adapt to whatever it is.

743
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 5: But just that R and B vibe, I'm like, damn,

744
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 5: this is dope, Like I haven't I didn't even realize.

745
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 5: And then we interviewed Jimmy so you ever heard of

746
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 5: Jimmy Cafe in the Bronx. So the owner of Jimmy

747
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 5: Legendary rest and he's had a bunch of different clubs

748
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 5: and restaurants. And we was talking to him and he

749
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 5: was saying, like, you know, back in the days, there

750
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: used to be a dress.

751
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: Code before to get to the club, right, yes, our bottom.

752
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 5: You wanted to control the element you had, but the

753
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: dress code has gone away.

754
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 3: They's no't dress code anymore.

755
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: So I'm like, well, how do you control the element

756
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 5: without like profiling people?

757
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 3: Right? And he was like, you do it through music? Yeah,

758
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: oh bro?

759
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 5: And then I never really thought about it like that,

760
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 5: but he was like, yo, if you want to control

761
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 5: an element and create a vibe, play the music.

762
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: That's going to weed out the nonsense.

763
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 8: It's crazy. I was telling somebody this.

764
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 7: I was like at Red Martini and even in the

765
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 7: history about party lads of VR and B right, we've

766
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 7: had maybe you know, two or three things that were

767
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 7: kind of like questionable, like altercations. One thing happened outside

768
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 7: the club before the guy walked in, and then when

769
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 7: it happened, we actually dead at the party at SCEL

770
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 7: and moved it, you know, what I mean. You know,

771
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 7: people feel comfortable in that space. People feel because the

772
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 7: music is going to dictate the energy, you know what

773
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 7: I'm saying. And if you know we're playing, you know

774
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 7: you listen to you know Jodasy or Mary J Blige,

775
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 7: you know, listen.

776
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna want to fight. Man, you try.

777
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: To go away when Telan campbells.

778
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: But it's also fun.

779
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: The type of person that even is that even wants

780
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 5: to come. Yeah, you gotta be in a certain mind

781
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 5: frame to even want to hear that kind of exactly exactly,

782
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 5: I don't want to get nine times out of ten.

783
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 5: If you're in that mind frame to even go to

784
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 5: hear that kind of music, You're not going to be

785
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: trying to ice grow somebody all night.

786
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: Like, that's not You're not in that mind frame.

787
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 8: And bro, I'm gonna keep it a buck man. Like.

788
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 7: We've always had a lot of women at our party,

789
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 7: but the influx of women the past like maybe three

790
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 7: months has.

791
00:36:52,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: Been absolutely ridiculous, no doubt ridiculous, like like like like

792
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 4: like this past Wednesday, I was like looking around, like, Yo,

793
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 4: this is really insane.

794
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 7: Like women I've never seen in Atlanta, women like like

795
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 7: I'm like, what's you know what I mean, you know,

796
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 7: on Wednesday to get people who got nine to five

797
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 7: to come out, you know what I mean I have.

798
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: I mean, it's an incredible party. It definitely is.

799
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm I listened to R and Be my

800
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: whole life, obviously listening to hip hop, but I'm in

801
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: there singing every lyric in there with y'all going crazy

802
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: like karaoke, styff.

803
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 3: It's my only grape.

804
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: Though you talked about Houston to Toronto, we went to

805
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 4: the Vegas after parties. Yeah, yeah, trying to figure out

806
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: when's it coming to me?

807
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: No, well, I was gonna I was gonna save that

808
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: for off camera because we while we why because we

809
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: did we need a I had a birthday party that

810
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 5: was crazy, so Kenny Burns hosted it.

811
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 8: And David it was a DJ. Oh that's great.

812
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 5: So they were saying that, like, yo, we need to

813
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: kind of have this because it was very reminiscent of

814
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: an era that we grew up in New York, like

815
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 5: I had AZ performed, The Locks performed, ghost Face perform,

816
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: GZ King Mellow was there, so it was very nineties

817
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: New York vibe, right crazy. So as you was talking,

818
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 5: I was thinking, like, we need to do like a

819
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: rooftop this summer New York.

820
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 3: Sue that and just have that element. Do that.

821
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 7: Like at first I was talking somebody to my boy

822
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 7: Ryan last night, I was like, Yo, like New York,

823
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 7: this ship feels really good up here, you know what

824
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 7: I mean? Like random, I'm staying in Brooklyn and I

825
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 7: went to I went to some barn Williamsburg last night.

826
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 8: The DJ was rocking. I just walked. I walked by

827
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 8: DJ rock and I walked in.

828
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 7: And I was saying like, yo, like like we need

829
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 7: to do something here in New York. We got to

830
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 7: figure this out, you know what I'm saying, Because it's

831
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 7: just the it feels good. It feels like summertime is

832
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 7: getting ready to be crazy.

833
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: It was like it was like, as long as we're

834
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 4: thinking on the same, yeah, I feel I feel very

835
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: very good up here.

836
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 8: Like I was like, oh, this feels great.

837
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 5: Well, let me ask you the business model of like,

838
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 5: because a lot of people that's another business that a

839
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 5: lot of people want to get into. It's like party promoters.

840
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: They don't really understand how so it's like, bro, you.

841
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: All right, how do you do this?

842
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 5: Do you you just rent out the venue or do

843
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 5: you just get a percentage of the bar?

844
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 7: So you could do it either way, right, But for us,

845
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 7: we partner with Martini so or any club right that

846
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 7: we've done with that we did Ady and Houston, it's

847
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 7: the same kind of situation. We basically work out a

848
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 7: percentage of everything though for us because food, food, bar, hookah,

849
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 7: you know, and then we take one hundred percent of

850
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 7: the door. Now, mind you, we are you know, considered

851
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 7: now established, you know, an established brand. So these clubs

852
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 7: are more willing to Yeah, they're more inclined to do

853
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 7: those kind of deals with us. I know that the

854
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 7: standard was like you know, the standards like twenty percent,

855
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 7: twenty five percent.

856
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 8: Of the bar.

857
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: Then they do like they do the bar guarantee.

858
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, bar guarantee. See we see, we don't we don't

859
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 7: want to do I don't don't do garantees.

860
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: But for people that don't know what the bar guarantee,

861
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 5: that's like if they say, like ten, you got to

862
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 5: hit ten thousand dollars and then you start making and

863
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 5: then you start making money after that, because they want

864
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 5: to make sure that they get.

865
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: Their money first. Yeah. So so, but yours comes from

866
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 3: the beginning.

867
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 7: Yea, from the beginning, from the gate because especially you

868
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 7: know now because like I said, we're proving brand and

869
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 7: know that the feet are going to be in there.

870
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, I know that people are

871
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 7: going to be in there, to your bodies in there.

872
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 7: So so yeah, and even then us figuring out now

873
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 7: transitioning from you know, that business model into now ownership.

874
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 8: You know, we're trying to find a spot own. That's all.

875
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 8: That's all.

876
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 5: That's like, that's like ag Yeah, he owned, he used

877
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 5: to own both the club.

878
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 8: We owned so many clubs.

879
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 7: He owned Compound, Compound, he owned, uh, go Go Go Room,

880
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 7: he owned Vanquished and rain back in the day, he

881
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 7: owned Kaya. Uh what's the spot? I mean, I mean

882
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 7: he's had a lot of clubs. A g is like,

883
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 7: you know, he's like the club the night life legend

884
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 7: of at L.

885
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, is there because I'm wondering

886
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: the formula for ladies of R and B s you

887
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: Keith next Mester, David, is there a way or is

888
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: there maybe a thought of licensing it to Oh yeah yeah,

889
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 4: let me we James can do it somewhere else.

890
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 8: Well, we're talking about it. We're trying to figure it out.

891
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 7: Like you know, me and Keith on the trademark and

892
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 7: we you know, we own we were on the brand.

893
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 7: We own a trademark. So we've definitely talked about it.

894
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I don't know if Keith

895
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 7: is ready to relinquish it yet. And it's such a

896
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 7: it's such a personal yeah, you know what I mean.

897
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: You know, we don't know.

898
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 7: We talked about franchise last year actually, and it just

899
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 7: it just has to make sense.

900
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: It has to be the whoever we would do it with.

901
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 7: We have to have the same kind of passion and

902
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 7: energy about you know, because keep your wish so hands

903
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 7: on with it, you know what I mean?

904
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Speaker 4: As you said franchise, because I'm thinking like it could

905
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Speaker 4: work right if you put the manual together, like this

906
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Speaker 3: The songs, or you or you just go on tour,

908
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Speaker 3: well tour.

909
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Speaker 7: We're definitely gonna do that. We're doing a tour and

910
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Speaker 7: we also want to do well, we're going to do

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Speaker 3: Like we're like almost like a you know, like a

962
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Speaker 3: DJ callid type.

963
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Speaker 8: Then yeah, but you know, but like live you know

964
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 8: what I'm.

965
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: Saying, different different cities.

966
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, So bottle service, All right, let's talk about this

967
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 5: because you know, ready for this, I was going to

968
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 5: the clubs pretty much my whole entire life. So I

969
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: actually saw it transition from before there was no bottle service,

970
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: was just at the bund and then the bottle service

971
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 5: was like a very small VIP actually meant that it.

972
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: Was GVIP was just just walked in literally just told

973
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: about VIP was just VIP. The whole club wasn't the

974
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: whole club.

975
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 5: Then before you know it, the whole entire club became

976
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 5: service VP, right, and then the markup on these bottles

977
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: were from one hundred and fifty to two hundred, three

978
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 5: hundred two seven hundred eight like you sometimes you gotta

979
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 5: pay thirteen hundred dollars just to get like.

980
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: A little stand up table in Miami. Right.

981
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 5: So it's like, as a nightlife promoter, I know it's

982
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: good for your revenue, but do you think that it's

983
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 5: this it's not really sustainable, Like do you think that

984
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: it's kind of messed up the club.

985
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 3: To think it messed up the club better? I think

986
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: it messed up the club absolutely, I think that.

987
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 7: I mean, granted, my personal opinion is also, you know,

988
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 7: this is take me out. I'm taking my business self

989
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 7: out of the equation at this point. A person who

990
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 7: came up djang in clubs, who makes music that plays

991
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 7: in the clubs, who actually enjoyed going out when I

992
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 7: was younger, and I remember going out and you could

993
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 7: you could bag the short at.

994
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: The bar, you know what I mean, what what you're drinking?

995
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, five around the drinks for them, you know,

996
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 7: two rounds you like? I remember, though, you know what

997
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 7: I mean, I remember that those days. Also you could

998
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 7: take the showy out to the dance floor. Y'all could

999
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 7: dance and y'all could talk, and you know, like there

1000
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 7: was there was more interaction before this bottle service section

1001
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 7: business model. There was more people interaction, you know what

1002
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 7: I mean. Right now there are there's there's really.

1003
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: No you can't meet somebody at the club now.

1004
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 8: I mean unless you unless y'all go into the bathroom.

1005
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 5: The past, you gotta grabberr you got you gotta bring

1006
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 5: your party to.

1007
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 3: Bring the party out that you grab the person because

1008
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: she might be with somebody.

1009
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 7: So you still it's like the interaction, the actual club interaction,

1010
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. The people people used to

1011
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 7: go to the club to do somebody. That's that's over with.

1012
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 7: Now it's like, look at me, Look at me. How

1013
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 7: many people I got in the sexual with me? Look

1014
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 7: how many bottles I got. It's a whole different kind

1015
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 7: of vibe now, you know what I mean. So that's

1016
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like, I like, now I'm making my

1017
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 7: duty to really roam the club. If y'all y'all been

1018
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 7: at I roamed the club, because if I don't, I

1019
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 7: won't see anybody, right, that's the fact, you know what

1020
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 7: I'm sayingbody just stays in that section. Yeah, if I

1021
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 7: don't roam the club, I won't see anybody. It's that

1022
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 7: B MF that revolutionized bottles. That era, Yes, that era.

1023
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 7: I don't think that they intended it for it to

1024
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 7: be like that.

1025
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: It would be just, but it's like what they literally rate.

1026
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 5: They werere the economy in the club, right, because they

1027
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 5: raised it's like home comps, right, like when somebody pays

1028
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 5: a million dollars for home every home in the neighborhood.

1029
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: Wor true. So and I wasn't there, you was there?

1030
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 5: So from one of the stories that I heard, they

1031
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 5: spend a million dollars a half a million dollars in

1032
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 5: the club.

1033
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: It never really they didn't come back down exactly.

1034
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 7: I remember when I remember one time y'o Visions, I'm correct,

1035
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 7: I remember, I'm correct that I think I think Slim

1036
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 7: was with me symptoms with I can't remember, but I

1037
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 7: and we were trying to get bottles and we went

1038
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 7: to we went the Vision and we Alex to put

1039
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 7: us on the table and we were trying to buy bottles.

1040
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 7: And Alex was like, Yo, there's no bottles to buy.

1041
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 7: And I was like, what you mean, there's no bottles

1042
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 7: to buy? Like literally, they bought every bottle in the club.

1043
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 7: You're gonna have to go talk to him about basically

1044
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 7: what the strategy was. If I bowed the bottles in

1045
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 7: the club, the artists and the producers and the creatives

1046
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 7: would have to come talk to me, and and then

1047
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 7: I could I could STAPs relationship, give them, give them bottles,

1048
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 7: like the bottles ain't ship, you know what I'm saying.

1049
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 7: So then they so you go talk to you, go

1050
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 7: talk to the homie, kick kick it with him, take

1051
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 7: a few shots of them, and he's like, Yo, make

1052
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 7: grab what y'all want, you know.

1053
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: So he's like, so that so that you're right in

1054
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: that way, from an E.

1055
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 7: Kondomy perspective, it did just mark everything up and then

1056
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 7: it just never really came back down.

1057
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: But kind of a little bit, you know what I mean.

1058
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 7: But it's not like how we used to be, yeah,

1059
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 7: back in the back when like literally it used to

1060
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 7: be if you had a like before that era, if

1061
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 7: you had if you.

1062
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: Had a bottle, you were somebody. You were you had

1063
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: like if you were.

1064
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 7: Walking to the club with one bottle of champagne, like

1065
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 7: you got you know what I'm saying like that, yeah,

1066
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 7: you know, yeah, no, but yeah, but like it's it's

1067
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 7: it's definitely not like that now. But you know, you know,

1068
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 7: you know what's interesting though, the trend that I'm saying

1069
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 7: now is Okay, bottles are still a thing, right, but

1070
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 7: bottles are kind of like, well, the trend I'm saying

1071
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 7: in Atlanta is you got to have six or seven

1072
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 7: hookahs on the on the table.

1073
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: It's like, out, bro, the whole good thing is just

1074
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: going to good out bro.

1075
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 7: No, no, really, it's really to a point where we've

1076
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 7: had some servers to book tables, you know, at Red Martini,

1077
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 7: and they'll bring it. You know, they did thinking that

1078
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 7: the most important thing is to bottles. So they you know,

1079
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 7: they're bringing the bottles out that you're fast, you give

1080
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 7: me credit card, bring the battle are fast. There are

1081
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 7: people who won't start drinking. And then and I'm walking by,

1082
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 7: like he'll be couse to the lady to bring the

1083
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 7: hookah like what hoocas? I wanted like five hookas.

1084
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shit hookahs like and it's like it's really

1085
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 3: literally and it's crazy.

1086
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 7: I mean I remember when it started and Crudose to

1087
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 7: a g again his brother Simon.

1088
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 8: They would have random vanquished.

1089
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 7: What Simon would do is that he would put when

1090
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 7: you bought a table, he would give you hookah for free,

1091
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 7: just put it.

1092
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: On the table. Right.

1093
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 7: So initially you're looking at the ship lane. That's this,

1094
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 7: But then what started happening was you would look at

1095
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 7: Simon's section right, and all the girls and all the

1096
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 7: bad East African girls over there, they'ld be like, they're

1097
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 7: like they're having a ball over there. It's like twenty

1098
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 7: hookahs on the table. So you're like, when you want

1099
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 7: the girls at your table too, So let's do let's

1100
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 7: let's start, you know what I mean. And that's really

1101
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 7: I watched them really build that popularity. Hookah was not

1102
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 7: nothing in Atlanta before that, you know what I'm saying,

1103
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 7: Like you have to you if you smoked hooka in Atlanta,

1104
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 7: you was actually going to a real hookah spot.

1105
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 8: It was probably from that region, you.

1106
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, Like, like you know what I'm saying,

1107
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: Like you wouldn't like the average Black Americans just going

1108
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: to the you know, hookahs spot.

1109
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 8: It wasn't like that, you know what I mean? And

1110
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 8: they they changed.

1111
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 7: It like you like, and that shit spread like wildfire everywhere.

1112
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 8: So I'm just not what Atlanta you know what I'm.

1113
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 7: Saying, like like you you you can't even like I

1114
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 7: have friends that won't even go to certain restaurants.

1115
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: Because it's no hookah. Yeah they yeah, they got hookah

1116
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 3: in the restaurants or Anything's just.

1117
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 7: Like for real, like if like Ye's go to Noble Man,

1118
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 7: no hook over there, Like what you're gonna pass Noble up?

1119
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 7: Because Okay, well, I.

1120
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: See you guys have like what you know, I mean,

1121
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: you know, and I granted you know, we we we're

1122
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: all we're you know, guilty of it smoking hookah.

1123
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 7: We all smoke hookah. But it's like, bro, like I'm

1124
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 7: not gonna not go to a five restaurant. Isn't a

1125
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 7: hooka in there?

1126
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: Bro?

1127
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 5: The hookah thinks kind of well, you know way it

1128
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 5: causes issues because it takes it takes up a lot

1129
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 5: of space.

1130
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 3: It's actually kind of like dangerous.

1131
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 7: To dangerous and comforts. So yeah, if you have that,

1132
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 7: you gotta go. It's like like double please, Yeah, it

1133
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 7: is it is. It is dangerous, It is cold, it

1134
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 7: is dangerous. Blocohol and cohls together is a.

1135
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: Somebody knocked the hookos That proper food.

1136
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 7: Used to be like fifteen ten dollars of proper business

1137
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 7: now dark.

1138
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 3: Hookah hundred dolls Damn damn.

1139
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 8: Yep, that's a lot of flavors.

1140
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 5: How important is customer service in that business? I think

1141
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 5: that's another business lesson, like as far as the night, Like,

1142
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 5: you got your regulars at my table, you got to

1143
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 5: cater to them. You got to make sure that people.

1144
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 5: That's my biggest thing. I hate when I go to the

1145
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 5: clubs and I gotta wait for these bottles. You're already

1146
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 5: spending fifteen hundred and two thousand dollars and then I've

1147
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 5: waited sometimes like forty minutes.

1148
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, bro, I just want the boy.

1149
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 8: The bottle, but I just gave you guys too bad

1150
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 8: to do two bands?

1151
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: Bro, talk like talk about the important right there, guys.

1152
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 7: Well for me, yeah, for me, that's another reason why

1153
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 7: I roam the club because I want to make sure

1154
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 7: that people are getting what they need, you know what

1155
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 7: I'm saying. So for me, customer services everything, you know

1156
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 7: what I mean, And we try to embark that on,

1157
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 7: you know, on the service you know what I mean,

1158
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 7: like yo, like, and I would say eighty five percent

1159
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 7: of the time they get it right, you know what

1160
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 7: I'm saying, but it's hard, you know, and it's when

1161
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 7: it's when it's packed and it's busy. It's like, I

1162
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 7: understand how difficult it is to navigate, you know, in

1163
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 7: the club. But Christmas services everything, which is why I

1164
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 7: roam the club. If I see my momber coming, I

1165
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 7: see something that's like yo, y'all, good y'all.

1166
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: They still a bure you hands on with security everything. Yeah.

1167
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 4: So I think what makes the party so successful it's

1168
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 4: because there's an era of just great music. To make

1169
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 4: this thing sustainable, it has to have a continuation of

1170
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: eras of great music. Yes, what do you feel like

1171
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: the state of R and B music is right now?

1172
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: Like we you know, for every Summer Walker, it's like

1173
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 4: the next person.

1174
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 7: I think R and B is actually prime to be

1175
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 7: in really good shape. You know, you have Coco Jones,

1176
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 7: you got Sister, you got October London, you got a

1177
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 7: Lucky Day, you got Jack Freeman, you got you know,

1178
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 7: you have all these artists that yeah, Brent Fias, you

1179
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 7: know you have all these artists division.

1180
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 4: Uh, I've been trying to tell them like how big

1181
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 4: yeah vision. You know you have all these artists that are.

1182
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 7: That are now like really serving the R and B genre,

1183
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 7: like Kenyan Dixon, Like it's just so many hours like

1184
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 7: a name that I think that are now serving R

1185
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 7: and B genre, proper Clio, soul, neil me Sharing.

1186
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: You know, there's just a lot.

1187
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 7: Of artists now that want to do the music, that

1188
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 7: want to actually do that music. So I think that

1189
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 7: we are going to be in good shape. I feel

1190
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 7: like we're we're heading towards a space where we're going

1191
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 7: to see an influx of new R and B, new traditional.

1192
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 8: R and B.

1193
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 7: Music, you know coming out, you know what I mean,

1194
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 7: versus it, versus versus And I know theres a lot

1195
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 7: of you know, toxic R and B is like so

1196
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 7: popular now, you know what I mean. But I think

1197
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 7: that even with what's happening with the Money Long Record,

1198
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 7: you know, you got to see that people are want

1199
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 7: to want to transition back into the love language space,

1200
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

1201
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: I hear it like when you hear that song, you hear, oh,

1202
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 4: this is gonna be timeless. I think Sissa has one

1203
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 4: with Snooze that's gonna be timeless. October London is interesting

1204
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 4: because that sound.

1205
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: But Siss said that she's not R and b artists.

1206
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying the song, the song Snooze, it just feels

1207
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 4: like that's just gonna be a timeless record. When you

1208
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: hear it, It's like that can play forever. It's like

1209
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: the Tevin Campbell things. People may not remember any song,

1210
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: they know that one and we try.

1211
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 8: To go know and Snuo's definitely one of those songs.

1212
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: That's one of those songs.

1213
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: So I'm even thinking of like these artists, Like we

1214
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: were talking about Brett and I was just like, he

1215
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 4: got a couple of them?

1216
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: Are they timeless?

1217
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 4: Like Jackie Brown for me is like I think for

1218
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: this generation might be that one.

1219
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 8: I like Jackie Brown. Jackie Brown is definitely one of

1220
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 8: these songs popular.

1221
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: Right, It's gonna be like are they making I see

1222
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: you could be one?

1223
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 4: I use definitely. I think it's one of them. Yeah,

1224
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 4: I think, Okay, we'll give it that. We're gonna give

1225
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 4: it that. But like, are there enough artists making these

1226
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: timeless records? Are they making these records for modern days?

1227
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 8: They're making a lot of time stamp records.

1228
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 7: You know, It's hard, you know, and it's hard not

1229
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 7: too at this point because it's we're living in a

1230
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 7: dsp era. I mean, we're not living in the com

1231
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 7: CDs tape you know, LP era. We're living in the

1232
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 7: era with you know music, it's fast, you know what

1233
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 7: I mean. We live in an era where you could

1234
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 7: drop a song. You can make us on today, drop

1235
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 7: it the day if you watch, you know. I mean,

1236
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 7: we're living in a real fast So it's it's hard

1237
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 7: not to make time stamp records, you know what I mean.

1238
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 7: But then the people who make records that are you know,

1239
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 7: that are timeless, you know, or they strive for timeless,

1240
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 7: they stand out, you know, Like you know, I think

1241
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 7: that Silk Sonics leave that or open. It's a record

1242
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 7: that's gonna play forever, you know what I mean. It's

1243
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 7: super sinkable soup super you know what I mean. Yeah,

1244
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 7: I think I think that's one of those songs that's

1245
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 7: gonna play, you know what I mean, No matter what,

1246
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 7: it's not going to be like oh remember that song

1247
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 7: they made?

1248
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1249
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 7: You know it feels it you can feel Yeah, So

1250
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 7: I don't know, man, you know, it's it's whoever leans

1251
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 7: into that, you know what I mean? Like if you know,

1252
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 7: I feel like Brent is an interesting He's interesting because

1253
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 7: it feels like he is the time stamp, you know

1254
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 7: what I mean, which kind of makes him timeless, you

1255
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 7: know what I mean. I mean like like he he's

1256
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 7: he's the guy that everybody's kind of like, you know

1257
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 7: you when I hear like a A four bats, I

1258
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 7: feel like he's trying to do Brent, even though Brent.

1259
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you know what I'm saying,

1260
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: He's like he's trying to do that. It's like.

1261
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 7: It's like that's what his goal, his goal, his goal

1262
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 7: post is, you know what I mean. So to me,

1263
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 7: Brent is a you know, he's he he is the

1264
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 7: sound of the time when it comes to these young

1265
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 7: cats coming up.

1266
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 8: But I think that.

1267
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 7: If you know, Coca Jones leans into her classic ship

1268
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 7: if you know, it says who says she's done R

1269
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 7: and B artist, which I understand her point of view,

1270
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, because of record like kill Bill,

1271
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 7: which was number one on a on a pop shot.

1272
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 7: As soon as you make a record like that, you're

1273
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 7: not an R and B artist no more, you know

1274
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 7: what I mean.

1275
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 8: So I understand her pop star, you know what I'm saying.

1276
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 7: If she was a white artist and had done to

1277
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 7: Kill Bill and it's news she would be a pop artist.

1278
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 7: It wouldn't. They wouldn't, you know what I mean. She

1279
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 7: would be like yeah, or you know, or competing in

1280
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 7: that space.

1281
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

1282
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 7: But because she's a you know, dark skinned, thick black chick,

1283
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 7: you know, and she's been known to make she's made

1284
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 7: R and B music for so long, you know, it's

1285
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 7: like you stop making alternative music and people still and

1286
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 7: you make alternatives, start making any hits and she don't

1287
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 7: like she you know, kill Bill's a smash, you know

1288
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 7: what I mean.

1289
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 3: So it was like The Weekends a pop artist.

1290
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 7: I would consider him a pop artist, but he considers

1291
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 7: it an R and B tho a RB. People considered

1292
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 7: the Weekend R and B with you, you know what

1293
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 7: I mean. I think he's popp I think he's popped too.

1294
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 7: Always I agree with you, I agree with you. I agree.

1295
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 7: I mean from even from the House of Wounds out,

1296
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 7: I always thought I never put him in a one

1297
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 7: of those mixtapes were coming out. I never put him

1298
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 7: in an R and B box. Always felt like, oh,

1299
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 7: this ship is alternative.

1300
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 3: This sh like you know what I mean?

1301
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 4: R and B is like it's usher it's Chris Brown

1302
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 4: and then yes, everybody else falls under that.

1303
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 5: But then it's a different I think even Chris Brown

1304
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 5: has ushered in a subdivision of.

1305
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: Rap RN.

1306
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, even like Tory Lane, like that's that. Yeah, it's

1307
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 5: a rap blast, it's a rap. They're like literally rapping.

1308
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 5: There's singing lyrics that should be rapped. They're like harmonizing

1309
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 5: it like.

1310
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, like yeah, it's traditional R and B. When I

1311
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 7: say when I say the ways word traditional R and B,

1312
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 7: I'm thinking usher.

1313
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm thinking old school like Mary J.

1314
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 5: Blog Lies, because like these dudes that do six bars singing,

1315
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 5: then they do four bars rapping, then they you know,

1316
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 5: it's and then they might have a whole song rapping

1317
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 5: and songs singing and like going back and forth with them,

1318
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 5: and Chris Brown can't really rap.

1319
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 3: We see nothing.

1320
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean dog.

1321
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 7: Dog that was I was like wow, I mean quick,

1322
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 7: I was like yo, man was like wow that.

1323
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 3: That was gonna respond to that.

1324
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 7: I thought that that was so just crazy because I

1325
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 7: was like, you know, you you you hear the Drake

1326
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 7: and Kendrick thing escalated. It was like it was it

1327
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 7: was slow and then and then it just you know

1328
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 7: what I mean then it escalated really fast.

1329
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 3: Chris Chris, Chris Brown didn't let that man. Chris was

1330
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 3: like talking to you directly, and I'm going to tell

1331
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: you be like it was.

1332
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 8: I'm like, yo, my man is scathing.

1333
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: Yo. You know that was offensive? Yeah?

1334
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 8: So yeah attack, yeah. No, I was like, well that

1335
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 8: you said that, didn't it quickly?

1336
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: That you have a lazy I was kind of.

1337
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 7: Like tuned into that one, like you know, the you know,

1338
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 7: the the Drake and Kindrick. Initially, I was like, always

1339
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 7: seemed like they're gonna be you know, it's going to be,

1340
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 7: you know, a little banter for a little I thought

1341
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 7: it was gonna go on a little longer. I thought

1342
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 7: it was gonna be like some of us, I'm gonna

1343
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 7: come back to that. I'm I'm watching the Chris Brown.

1344
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 3: That was.

1345
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 8: That ship ended fast.

1346
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of that, Drake So gets a lot of

1347
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 5: criticism for not writing his rhymes. Allegedly you as a writer, right,

1348
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 5: but hip hop is different than R and B.

1349
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 3: I yeah, yeah.

1350
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 5: Do you think that that discredits his legacy because it

1351
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 5: just Kanye West doesn't write a lot of his stuff

1352
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 5: at all.

1353
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: Kanye has a lot of people in the room with him,

1354
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 3: Kanye is also Kanye.

1355
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 7: He's a producer's an entity, He's he's the vision, right,

1356
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 7: and it doesn't discredit him because he has so much

1357
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 7: back then.

1358
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 3: What I'm saying people don't. I don't. People don't criticize

1359
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: Kanye the way they criticized Drake. I don't think people

1360
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: ever looked at Kanye is a really as a real rapper.

1361
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. I mean, no disrespect kinds

1362
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 8: of women dropped out graduation.

1363
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 7: I mean the stories, the stories are legendary and how

1364
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 7: they how the labels was clowning them. You know what

1365
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 7: I mean, there's a legendary how they thought that. You know,

1366
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 7: he he willed himself because people doubted him, you know

1367
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 7: what I mean, they never viewed him that way. Yeah,

1368
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 7: so he always wanted to be viewed that way and

1369
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 7: they never viewed that way. That's what willed.

1370
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 3: So he's not held to that. Yeah, it was that

1371
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: nice graduation, Kanye want the greatest of ever doing it.

1372
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: He's outside the assistance. Yeah, let's not.

1373
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's not like he's he's he's him, you know

1374
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 7: what I mean when it comes to you know, his legacy.

1375
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 5: But so Drake, how do you feel about this situation

1376
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 5: where it's a constant thing you as a writer, what's

1377
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 5: your take on this?

1378
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, Drake, Drake is actually a superb songwriter.

1379
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 7: I think that people, you know, when you have collaborators,

1380
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 7: sometimes those collaborations can be, uh can be maximized a

1381
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 7: little more than what they really are. And I will

1382
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 7: say this, when you have the Quinin Miller demos, that's

1383
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 7: where it gets a little weird, right. But but I've

1384
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 7: known Drake to be somebody who's always been that. That

1385
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 7: was always his strong point. Him writing was always his

1386
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 7: strong point. Now he's always had a flare of R

1387
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 7: and B in there. He's always had a flair of

1388
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So I think that maybe

1389
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 7: that is what is part of the discrediting too. As

1390
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 7: far as the MCS, MCS when he came out, it

1391
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 7: wasn't the rap singing thing wasn't really a.

1392
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 3: So so so.

1393
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 7: You have people who are rappers looking at him like's

1394
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 7: the singer he can he's a singer, a rapper, you

1395
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So he already kind of had

1396
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 7: had an up here, you know, battle to climb, you know,

1397
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 7: he was he was already going to be uphill with that, right,

1398
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 7: and then you add and then when you start, you know,

1399
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 7: collaborating with people, because I mean even you know the

1400
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 7: Jay who we all you know, admire and and look

1401
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 7: as one of the greatest, probably if not the greatest, right,

1402
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 7: you know, I'm not saying he had collaborates, but he

1403
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 7: was inspired, you know, Biggie inspired, Chris and Neif inspired.

1404
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 7: You know, he's had people around him, Beanie you know,

1405
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 7: now he might not have he didn't take any bars

1406
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 7: from him, but you know, so yeah, certain flows you

1407
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 7: could tell.

1408
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,959
Speaker 3: Like it's Philly, you know, it's like p D. Krack,

1409
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 3: you know what.

1410
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 7: You could tell certain flows he took based on being

1411
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 7: inspired right with Drake, you know it, it's a slippery

1412
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 7: slope when you have people in the room. You know,

1413
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 7: you're supposed to be the guy, the guy, the MC

1414
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 7: of all mcs. You have people in the room feeding

1415
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 7: you lines. You know, it's it's it's it's it's allegedly.

1416
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, allegedly.

1417
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 3: That's feeding you line is alleged, it's legit. Well we

1418
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 3: know that I've never sat in the room. He has

1419
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: co writers, yeah, reference tracks, not co writers. So yeah,

1420
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: so yeah, because that you don't know.

1421
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 7: Also, that's nothing you don't know, Like like I've been

1422
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 7: in a room where somebody was in the booth right

1423
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 7: and another songwriters in the booth and they can't come

1424
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 7: up with something they're supposed to come up for whatever,

1425
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 7: and I'm feeding them lines and they're actually saying the line.

1426
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 7: So and it's on pro tools. So we don't know what.

1427
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 7: We don't know what that Quinn Miller reference track was.

1428
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 7: We don't know if Drake was in the control room

1429
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 7: saying no do it like this says is you know,

1430
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 7: give me a guideline of his what you know?

1431
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 8: We don't know what that was. You don't know what

1432
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 8: the process was.

1433
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 7: And I'm only giving I'm only giving people to grace

1434
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 7: because I'm everybody's talking like they was in the studio.

1435
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 7: I'm literally be in a studio, and I know how

1436
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 7: the process goes when you're when you're writing with someone,

1437
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So so it's it's a

1438
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 7: it's a slippery slope for dude, you know what I mean.

1439
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 7: And you know it was a few names that Kendricks named,

1440
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 7: a few writers he named and that and that and

1441
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 7: that scathing disc you know what I mean, and I'm like,

1442
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 7: you know, it's it's it's a slippery slope. I'll say

1443
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 7: this though, He's what I do. I mean, there are

1444
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 7: a lot of things that I uh respect about Drake

1445
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 7: as an artist and as a creative. Like I said,

1446
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 7: I do know you know, him writing for other people,

1447
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 7: writing unthinkable for Alicia Keys right, like like like this

1448
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 7: guy his penish spinish really good. I don't want people

1449
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 7: to it's not it's not like it's not he's got

1450
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 7: a premium pain. Let's not play like that's not what's happening,

1451
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. You know he's he writes

1452
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 7: hiss for other people too, you know what I mean.

1453
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 7: You know, yeah, when Kanye West, he's flip flopped. But

1454
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 7: when Kanye says, uh, I want always drink the right,

1455
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 7: I want to drink that write my whole album, like

1456
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 7: in that moment, that was an honest place for him.

1457
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 8: He felt that that was like you know what I mean.

1458
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 7: So you don't get somebody to say that if they

1459
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 7: haven't been in the room with you and seeing that

1460
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 7: you get to get down like that, you know what

1461
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 7: I mean. I will say that that battle has been

1462
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 7: uh probably one for the book.

1463
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 8: So I've never seen anything.

1464
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 3: Like I think it was the best battle ever.

1465
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 7: I've never seen anything like that factor in all the

1466
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 7: factors and just how fast, Yeah, rapid.

1467
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 8: I've never seen anything like.

1468
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 4: That, that creative, that fast, Yeah, that impact.

1469
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 5: And it's the first social media yes super mega battle.

1470
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 5: Yes right, so it's like having everybody chime in in

1471
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 5: real time.

1472
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 3: We couldn't chime in with the other battles. Yeah that was.

1473
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 7: Neighborhood, but this is a worldwide conversation, right, and family

1474
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 7: matters dropped and I was like, okay, right, I was like, okay,

1475
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 7: all right, Drake, let's go fight back fight.

1476
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 8: It wasn't even that wasn't an hour.

1477
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 3: It was like a half an hour. It wasn't even hour.

1478
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 3: It was it was quick. It wasn't even an hour. Later,

1479
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: he drops the.

1480
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 5: Bomb clips he solely eclipsed his whole rollout, like questions on, like,

1481
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 5: there's no that that's probably the most the best strategic

1482
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 5: moving hip hop ever.

1483
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 7: And it's like, bro, it was like because but what

1484
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 7: I what I appreciate about Kendrick too is that he

1485
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 7: knows that drink is strategic, like like like Meek wasn't

1486
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 7: wasn't First of all, Meek was just I don't know

1487
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 7: what was going on. When did them tweets? And he

1488
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 7: started that and didn't have like a strategy. You're dealing

1489
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 7: with a guy who really all he does is strategize,

1490
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, he's you know what I mean.

1491
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 7: So what I can preach my Kendrick is that he

1492
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 7: knew his opponent going into this.

1493
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 3: He knew what to be prepared, and he took the time.

1494
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 3: He took the time.

1495
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 7: And when he was talking about when Drakes somebody dropped drive,

1496
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 7: we know you writing them double the tripleandras and.

1497
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 4: And he was like, yeah, sitting in that room in Brooklyn, Yeah, okay,

1498
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 4: got you, I got you.

1499
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 8: I'm I'm I'm on, I'm on, I'm on.

1500
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 7: Your head time he was, he was, you know what

1501
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 7: I'm saying, like the flurries to just.

1502
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 4: I mean, he gave us the song that's going to

1503
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 4: be the song of the summer, The song of the

1504
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 4: summer might be the song of the West Coast going forward.

1505
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, who knows. Flawless flawless execution on his part.

1506
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 8: Feels very very hit him uppish.

1507
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think bigger Bill, Yeah, absolutely think bigger, absolutely Yeah.

1508
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I was like, oh, this boy studyed, he studied,

1509
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 3: he studied that that battle very well. Shout out to Mustard,

1510
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: thank you for your contribution. Yeah. Speaking of the Drake

1511
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: twitching gears were staying on it. One of the disrecords

1512
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 3: was the AI song with Tupac.

1513
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 8: And that was a misstep.

1514
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 3: Didn't like that.

1515
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 8: That was a misstep for him.

1516
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 7: I think I think that that's where it started, where

1517
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 7: the missteps started.

1518
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 3: That's where he started to get a little too.

1519
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 8: That's where that's the misstep. I think that. I think.

1520
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,879
Speaker 7: I mean because the way he's rapping on family matters.

1521
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 7: I think that if he just would have rapped.

1522
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 3: Or if he would have just wrapped the AI song, yeah,

1523
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 3: it just rap. Yeah. I think he was trying to

1524
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:31,799
Speaker 3: be creatives.

1525
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 5: So but it brings it to a part I think

1526
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 5: he in his brain he was trying to be super creative, right,

1527
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 5: like what has never been done before and nobody of

1528
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 5: his stature has ever really championed Ai. Timberland has a

1529
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 5: song with Big but I don't people didn't really pay

1530
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 5: attention to it. But like Drake, the one of the

1531
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 5: biggest artists in the world right too. At the peak

1532
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,759
Speaker 5: of a battle. He kind of went out on the limp.

1533
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 5: So this brings me to my question as far as AI,

1534
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 5: what is your thoughts in AI? Because it's like for

1535
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 5: a writer, right, mm hmm. There there's people that still

1536
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 5: want to hear Whitney Houston. Yeah, man, there's people that

1537
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 5: still want to hear Al Green, Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson, Prince, Right, Prince,

1538
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 5: what's your thoughts on that? Because it could to me,

1539
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 5: it could go it could go either way, right, because

1540
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:17,440
Speaker 5: it's dangerous.

1541
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 7: It's dangerous, but it's also an incredible tool. M hm,

1542
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. It's dangerous though, so dangerous

1543
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 7: because I mean, well we know we know about deep

1544
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 7: fakes and all that, you know what I mean, and

1545
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 7: something and a lot of times you could tell when

1546
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 7: something it's not real. But this AI thing is getting

1547
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 7: so it's getting so good, you know what I mean,

1548
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 7: And it's just dangerous to me, is dangerous? Have you

1549
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 7: have you used it? I've used it for to strip tracks.

1550
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 7: So like there's this, uh, this is website called loud

1551
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 7: loud dot Ai. So if I wanted to grab uh,

1552
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 7: you know, the drums from Footsteps in the Dark and

1553
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 7: just or just taste. Just take them, you know what

1554
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 7: I mean, you can take them in, but instead of

1555
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 7: trying to.

1556
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 5: It could also so when we was with Akon, we

1557
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 5: showed him Chatty she for the first time ever, and

1558
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 5: we said, like, write a song, write a love song.

1559
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 5: We gave it a thing I said, and do it

1560
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 5: in Acon's tone, and he was reading it.

1561
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, this is this is actually write.

1562
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 5: He's a writer. So that's another thing. People aren't thinking

1563
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 5: about AI rights too. So it could be like, write

1564
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 5: me a Brian Michael Cox type song.

1565
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,839
Speaker 3: Do you are you from my Girl? Are you fearful

1566
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 3: for that? How do you feel about that?

1567
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 5: Because everybody talking about the vocal part of it, but

1568
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 5: nobody's talking about the writing part of it.

1569
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's even harder to.

1570
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 7: Control, right, way, harder control because you don't know, yeah, exactly,

1571
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 7: you don't know where it's coming.

1572
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 3: From, you know what I mean.

1573
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,879
Speaker 8: And then with the whole what's the what's the website?

1574
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 7: It was a udio where they're making like the whole whatever,

1575
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 7: where they're like making mock verse versions of era of

1576
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 7: like time era songs like how how mental got?

1577
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1578
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, how the fifties versions of like you know, sexy red,

1579
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 7: So that was crazy, so like which is and people

1580
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 7: thought that a lot of people thought that she was real.

1581
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 7: You think people it was like this back in the original.

1582
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:38,480
Speaker 3: But but it for me, it's it's definitely scary, but

1583
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 3: the reality is that's where it's going.

1584
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 7: So at the end of the day, you either you know,

1585
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 7: try to regulate it or you know, you can't. You

1586
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 7: can't fight it because at the end of the day,

1587
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 7: you know, right now it's new, when it's fun or whatever.

1588
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 5: You because that's what so in the Hollywood strike, that's

1589
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 5: one of the things that they had in the fight

1590
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 5: was that the writers wanted to ensure that AI scripts.

1591
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 3: Wasn't going to be made because they was gonna lose

1592
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: their job.

1593
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 5: So there's no union for music, right, But that's something

1594
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 5: that could potentially have like some fight like the musician.

1595
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 3: You know, writers Association.

1596
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 5: Could be like yo, y'all can't use more than twenty

1597
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 5: percent of because essentially it could literally take away all

1598
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 5: the musical writers.

1599
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 8: They could take away everybody.

1600
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 7: In fact, you could go on UDEO and type in,

1601
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 7: make me a fifty sounding track of so and so

1602
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 7: and so with these words whatever, whatever, and it spits

1603
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 7: it out and people believe that it was real. That

1604
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 7: means you go to you there and say, yo, make

1605
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 7: me a mean anything, make me a country music Curtry

1606
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 7: song is talking about so and so and so and so,

1607
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 7: and then you could take that, take that that MP

1608
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,879
Speaker 7: three or whatever that file is, put it through another

1609
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 7: AI lou loud dot AI, I separate the tracks if

1610
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 7: you want, you know what I mean, and then it's

1611
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 7: yours mine. You know, it's really who's to tell you that?

1612
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 7: It's not who to say you didn't create that. There's

1613
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:13,959
Speaker 7: no better say you didn't.

1614
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 4: Create It becomes a tough competition from one on the

1615
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 4: soul side, It's like, yeah, I could prompt it to

1616
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 4: have have me write a song based on Michael Brian

1617
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 4: Cox and say, all right, I want that to be

1618
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 4: towards my ex girlfriend. I want to feel like Confessions did,

1619
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 4: and they can create that. But what it else can

1620
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 4: do is say, all right, not only do I want

1621
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 4: the song to be sound like it was written by you,

1622
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 4: but I want it to be sound like it's written

1623
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 4: by a dream as well. I wanted to like John,

1624
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 4: like all these people, and I could put thirty of

1625
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 4: them before you can make one right, so it becomes

1626
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,799
Speaker 4: even even more of a challenge.

1627
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 7: No, it's it's sad, it's scary. You just you know,

1628
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 7: I'm actually learning. I'm doing whatever I can to learn

1629
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 7: as much about it as possible, you know what I mean.

1630
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 7: You know everybody said, well, you know you can't replace

1631
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 7: human soul. You know your soul, but you know, where

1632
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 7: is the soul in general? You know, where's the soul

1633
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 7: in general?

1634
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1635
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 8: It's like.

1636
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 7: It's it's looking like it could probably respect play, you.

1637
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 4: Know, like, where's the soul? So somebody called Joe Scott. Yeah,

1638
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 4: so it's.

1639
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, it's just it's very very it's controversial.

1640
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 8: It's interesting.

1641
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 7: I'm trying to learn as much as I can about

1642
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 7: it before I like, really really you know, dive in

1643
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 7: and say you know that that I'm for it or

1644
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 7: against it. I just know that it's I do know

1645
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 7: it's dangerous.

1646
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 5: Well before you leave any new initiatives, and you got

1647
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 5: the label you're working with our guys at l v

1648
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 5: r N.

1649
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, my boys, what up? What up? Yeah?

1650
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 5: So yeah, what what's on the horizon that we may have?

1651
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 5: No I spoke about that. You you know, definitely want

1652
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 5: to get out there.

1653
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I'm still working in the capacity with

1654
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 7: v r N as executive producer. So we got a

1655
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 7: few things in the in the in the in the

1656
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 7: pot cooking right now that I'm excited about. You're an

1657
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 7: R you know, actually I'm just an execut producer now.

1658
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 7: I was in our last year, but I'm just uh

1659
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 7: an executive on the NR team now and then I'm

1660
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 7: doing and then I have my company illustrating new ideas.

1661
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 7: You're looking for talent, yes, how can how can people?

1662
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 7: You catch me on my Instagram at Brian Michael Coxon.

1663
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 7: They can send you music, yep, the music. My My

1664
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 7: email address is b m PC dot m P three

1665
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 7: at gmail dot com. Or you can send me music

1666
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 7: at Brian at l v r N dot com. So yeah,

1667
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 7: I'm I'm looking. I'm really really like around the clock

1668
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 7: looking right now too. So you know, let's let's build

1669
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 7: it up, Let's let's do something.

1670
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

1671
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 8: I've been on a record saying this, so I want

1672
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 8: your opinion too.

1673
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 4: I think those confessions that to me is the best

1674
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 4: body of work from any R and B artists, maybe

1675
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 4: any artists. I put allmatic in Confessions like those are

1676
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 4: my like three favorite album outside of Post Confessions. What

1677
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 4: what have you listened to that you said this is

1678
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 4: a classic piece of work. I said that so Os

1679
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 4: is probably the best album that I've heard. I think

1680
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 4: over it might be in there. What are some other

1681
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 4: bodies of works from the R and B genre that

1682
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 4: you had? This is a classic, this is a masterpiece,

1683
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 4: definitely since his last album. You says, definitely, that's a

1684
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 4: good question. Something am I listening to? Think had a classics?

1685
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 4: Think it's a good album. I think it's a classic.

1686
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 3: Some classic songs.

1687
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 7: I think Frank Ocean's album, the first album, the first

1688
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 7: one is crazy.

1689
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 3: That's that's in it. That's it. That's two thousand.

1690
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's crazy.

1691
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:03,799
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1692
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 8: I think that. Uh oh, you know it's crazy. I was.

1693
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 7: You know, I really enjoyed Washed the Throne, really enjoy Pablo. Actually,

1694
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 7: I know why I like that that album specifically, don't

1695
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 7: say nothing.

1696
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,520
Speaker 3: I really like that album.

1697
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 7: Uh but I mean we know it's magnim Opus is

1698
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 7: uh my dark twisted fantasy. Know that's his that's his piece,

1699
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 7: that's his best piece of work, you know what I mean?

1700
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 3: Master Pieces that we agreed on I think we didn't agree.

1701
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 7: A lot of them, a lot of them of them

1702
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 7: let me think, uh, it's I'm drawing a blank.

1703
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 3: I liked uh.

1704
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 8: Album. I felt like I'm.

1705
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: Gonna keep it real.

1706
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 8: I like Lemonade, well, yes, his Limonade.

1707
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 3: Lemonade story, the story, the visual.

1708
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 7: Kind of the continuity of the album. There's just some

1709
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 7: really really really great songs on there.

1710
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 3: That's there. We got that on the wall, yeah thing.

1711
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 8: What else.

1712
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 7: I was a little apprehensive about this album when they

1713
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 7: when they first Droppedn't, I didn't know where it was

1714
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 7: coming from. But now that I you know, listening back

1715
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 7: to it, I think that people overlooked this album because

1716
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,839
Speaker 7: it just kind of came out of nowhere. But Usher's

1717
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 7: and Jatoba's album A, I like, that's the last joint.

1718
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 3: I got the car on the front. Yeah, it was

1719
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 3: an album was Usher and atob and that that album.

1720
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 8: Is a really good one.

1721
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 3: There's a journey. I really like he Got, he.

1722
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 7: Got, he Got, he Got, he Got some songs that

1723
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 7: I really really really wish that they would have actually

1724
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 7: went after you know what I mean. But He's kind

1725
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 7: of just dropped it and it was kind of like what

1726
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 7: they didn't really they didn't really go after it, you

1727
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 7: know what I mean, But records like say what you

1728
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 7: want and uh peace sign and like he got joint,

1729
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 7: some of their debts go crazy. That should be that

1730
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 7: should be bigger.

1731
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 3: That's very stuff. Do you know what I'm saying. I'll

1732
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 3: tell you I give you one last slept on Day

1733
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: twenty six. Yeah. Yeah, So so everybody that's out of everything.

1734
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 3: I think that's a classic out of.

1735
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 8: Everything that I've ever worked on.

1736
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 7: Right, of all the things I've worked on, that album

1737
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 7: always surprised me when people say it's a classic, but

1738
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 7: it really shouldn't, because, like I told somebody, yeah, I

1739
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 7: was telling Sway yesterday, I was like, I really took

1740
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 7: Day twenty six personal, right, I took that project personal.

1741
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 7: I took that whole process personal because the five guys

1742
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 7: they picked were the were my five guys that I

1743
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 7: had picked. So I really like when I got into

1744
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 7: the studio with them. First of all, I love working

1745
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 7: with groups. I love working with male groups. I love

1746
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 7: work with groups in general. So because I like placing

1747
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 7: voices in different I like hearing different chambres and placing

1748
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 7: them somewhere you know what I mean.

1749
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 3: It's like a really really big, beautiful puzzle for me. Right.

1750
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 7: So I listened to the album and I was like, oh,

1751
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 7: these songs are really good, like you know, I mean,

1752
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 7: you know, like when you're making it, you just kind

1753
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 7: of like personal win number one album number one.

1754
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 8: I was happy about it.

1755
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 7: I was just upset that that bad when Atlantic didn't

1756
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 7: really go as hard as I thought they should have

1757
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 7: went with the promo, you know what I mean. There

1758
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 7: were so many great songs on there, so many great singles.

1759
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 7: I feel like they just coasted on the television show.

1760
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 8: And it was like, you know, Atlantic, bad way y'all for.

1761
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 7: The promo team at which y'all doing, Just do this

1762
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 7: like it's a one twelve album, you know what I mean?

1763
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 7: But I took I took that album personal, and I

1764
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 7: listened to it recently and was like, damn, I could tell,

1765
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 7: like this album.

1766
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 3: Was good, really good? Did you write co Star? How

1767
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 3: to do co Star?

1768
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 8: And because the coastar's fire though, fire fires, you know

1769
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 8: what I'm saying.

1770
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 3: You've been going that?

1771
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, you been gone exclusive? Did I did a bunch

1772
01:24:58,600 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 8: of songs.

1773
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 4: On the weeks together? Don't give it a listen. Well,

1774
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 4: and since you've been going on.

1775
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 3: My brother, thank you for joining us.

1776
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 7: And thank you guys. I'm sorry I was late man,

1777
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 7: my apologies. I'm glad we got a chance to talk.

1778
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 5: So I have the R and B pop up activation

1779
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 5: I invest Fest. Yeah, that's going you know what you

1780
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 5: know that invests this. Yeah, yeah, we should do.

1781
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 8: So, let's do that.

1782
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think I came to one. I came to

1783
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 7: invest last year, Jamaine.

1784
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 3: Last year. Yeah.

1785
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, No, let's do that.

1786
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 3: That's easy question, Let's do That's not even question.

1787
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 8: Let's let's make that happen.

1788
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1789
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 8: And uh and whatever.

1790
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 7: Let's pick of this. Do your rooftop thing out too, No,

1791
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 7: for sure, that's summertimes coming.

1792
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 8: We need to do something New York.

1793
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 3: You should thank us now, thank us now, yes, yes,

1794
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 3: thank you for rocking on. See you next week. Peace.

1795
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,040
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